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How long will prices stay high
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Cecilia Rouse is next and
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midterm match up. as voters
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at two
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key contests. Arizona's
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governor's race with
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Republican Kerry Lake. Thank you so
1:02
much
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president Trump and Democrat Katie
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Hobbs. I'm really proud of the work he
1:07
did in twenty twenty. And as
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Biden makes his swing out west. I
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love you.
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We'll talk to that state's Democratic senator
1:15
Michael Bennett and his challenger Republican
1:18
businessman Joe O'Dea, plus
1:20
simmering crises. President Biden
1:22
debates how to punish one global power
1:25
and keep another from deadly escalation.
1:28
The threats and the US response with
1:30
national security adviser Jake Sullivan.
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Hello. I'm
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Diana Fashion. Wash contain where the state
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of our union is wondering what the country
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will look like in twenty three days. As
1:47
we count down to the midterm elections, the
1:49
president of the United States faces twin
1:51
challenges. Lumi new data
1:54
points show inflation is still running unchecked
1:56
despite attempts by the Fed to cool it
1:58
down. The
1:59
cost at the
1:59
kitchen table is way up,
2:02
fueled in part, at the cost of war
2:04
and clashes with unpredictable global
2:06
powers. The economic and foreign
2:08
policy chaos, part of what's driving
2:10
dramatic uncertainty ahead of next
2:12
month's elections, Today, a special
2:15
focus on the midterms. We'll have interviews
2:17
with the candidates in two critical battleground
2:19
races, one with tremendous
2:22
consequences for the country. Arizona
2:24
where Democrat Katie Hobbs is running
2:26
against Republican Kerry Lake for
2:28
governor and then to Colorado where
2:30
Republican Joe O'Dea is testing whether
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a Republican who distances himself
2:35
from former president Trump could win a
2:37
purple state O'Dea and incumbent
2:39
Democratic senator Michael Bennett will
2:41
be here. But first today, we start
2:44
with the Biden administration and the issue
2:46
voters say over and over is their
2:48
top turn, the economy.
2:52
Here with me now is White House Economic Advisors,
2:55
Cecilia Rouse. Thank you so much for joining
2:57
me. I wanna start with what President
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Biden said on Friday that his administration
3:02
has made some progress on reigning
3:04
and inflation. But Annual inflation
3:07
in September was eight point two percent.
3:09
It barely changed from the month
3:11
before. How was that progress?
3:15
So I very much appreciate
3:17
the question and the inflation
3:20
is very much that the president's
3:22
top concern, it's my cap concern, I
3:24
completely understand how
3:27
that's a big challenge for many families. for
3:29
all families here in United States. So
3:32
what we can see in the economic data
3:34
is the Fed is focused on bringing
3:36
that inflation And the big concern
3:38
is can they bring down inflation while maintaining
3:40
robust economy labor
3:42
market? And we are starting to see signs
3:45
that the actions they are taking is having an
3:47
effect. For example, we
3:50
love having a very strong labor market, but
3:52
it's been very, very strong employers
3:54
are having a very hard time finding workers.
3:55
But we saw in some data last month
3:58
that employers are
3:59
posting fewer job vacancies, which means that
4:02
there's a little bit of easing labor market without
4:04
having any layoffs. We can also see
4:06
that the housing market is beginning to cool, and
4:08
we know that housing prices as part of
4:11
the challenge for families is part of our inflation
4:13
challenge. We know that excess savings
4:15
are starting to be spent. So we
4:17
are starting to see signs that are red
4:19
hot economy is starting to cool. And
4:22
so we know that because of
4:24
that strength, we're in we're better positioned
4:26
than most other countries wanna show
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achieve its goals. I wanna
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show you and our viewers some of the
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other data points that they
4:34
deal with every single day. The price
4:36
of eggs has gone up more than
4:39
thirty percent Gas, chicken,
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coffee, milk, bread have all gone
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up significantly. These are real
4:45
kitchen table issues for America. antsy?
4:49
Absolutely. And the price
4:51
of food is part of our inflation
4:53
challenge. And again, we
4:55
are focused on it to the best of our abilities,
4:58
a part of the challenge for food is
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actually through energy. And so Putin's
5:02
war against Ukraine where
5:04
he has weaponized natural gas. He's
5:06
weaponized energy shows up in food
5:08
prices as well because energy is a big
5:10
component of fertilizer. We have been
5:13
working to ease ports, which actually helps
5:15
to ensure that farmers are able to
5:17
export their products and where they're not sitting on
5:20
a lot of inventory. Our agriculture
5:22
department is doing what it can to try to increase
5:24
supply and increase yields through programs
5:26
such as helping farmers with double cropping.
5:29
So there's no question that families are
5:31
feeling the squeeze. It's why the president
5:33
is focused on trying to bring
5:35
down costs. The inflation reduction asks while
5:37
it doesn't directly speak to food, it
5:40
does go to medical care, it goes
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to energy costs, and So
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we are focused on trying to
5:48
help families get through this. Let me point
5:50
to another
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data point that excludes food
5:53
and energy, the so called core inflation
5:56
number. President Biden touted
5:58
that as a sign that the
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economy was improving BUT
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NOW IT IS ON THE RISE, six
6:05
point six percent THE HIGHEST IN forty YEARS.
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SO BY PRESIDENT BIDEN'S OWN LOGIC DOESN'T
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SHOW THAT THE ECONOMY is actually headed
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in the wrong direction.
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So if one looks month on month, it
6:16
was actually flat. So,
6:18
again, a lot of the reason why core
6:20
inflation increase was because of housing costs
6:23
and medical costs. The inflation reduction
6:26
caps the cost of insulin for seniors at
6:28
thirty five dollars a month. It allows
6:30
Medicare to negotiate with pharmaceuticals, which
6:32
will help bring down the cost of the most
6:34
expensive drugs. a caps out of
6:36
pocket expenses as well. So
6:39
we are focused on trying to address
6:41
medical care and by extending
6:43
the Affordable Care Act extensions
6:46
through for
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another few years, it provides
6:51
it was accessible healthcare for so many
6:53
people. So we're focused on bringing on
6:55
medical care costs. You've
6:57
mentioned I would always point out that housing
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times. Yeah.
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I just I'm just curious and
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a lot of Americans are curious when
7:05
the so called inflation reduction act
7:07
will really start to bring down inflation.
7:12
So the the many parts
7:14
of the bill will start to take effect next
7:16
year. For example, there are tax credits
7:18
for energy to help people weatherize
7:20
their homes and also bring down
7:22
other forms of energy costs. So
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we are focused on helping to make that
7:27
transition to clean energy
7:29
in a way that brings down energy
7:31
cost for families. So this is so
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this is tough. There's no question about it.
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This is challenge. What I will say is
7:38
that this economy is stronger than
7:40
almost every other economy, that the
7:42
Federal Reserve is focused on bringing down
7:44
inflation. This president is committed
7:47
to doing fiscal policy that is complementary
7:49
to the Federal Reserve's actions so that
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we can get through this period just
7:54
as quickly as possible. Cecilia
7:55
Rouse. Thank you so much for joining me
7:57
this morning. Thank
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you. I
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want to turn now to foreign policy and
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some serious global tests FOR THE COMMANDER
8:06
AND CHIEF JOINING ME NOW IS THE WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL
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SECURITY BIZZER. JAKKS Sullivan,
8:10
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. I
8:12
WANT TO START WITH Saudi Arabia, president
8:14
Biden said this week it is time to rethink
8:17
the US relationship with Saudi Arabia
8:19
after they sided with
8:20
Russia to reduce oil production.
8:23
One
8:23
thing some of your fellow Democrats on Capitol
8:25
Hill are pushing is halting future
8:27
armed sales to Saudi Arabia. Can
8:29
you give a reason why the US WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE,
8:32
SELLING ARMs TO Saudi
8:33
Arabia RIGHT NOW?
8:37
WELL,
8:37
FIRST, DANA, THANKS for having me on.
8:39
You're right. The president did say that
8:42
he is going to reevaluate our relationship
8:44
with Saudi Arabia because They did
8:46
side with Russia against the interests of the American
8:48
people. This is relationship that got
8:51
built over decades on a bipartisan
8:53
basis. and so the president isn't going
8:55
to act precipitously. He's gonna act
8:57
methodically, strategically, and he's
8:59
going to take his time to consult with members
9:01
of both parties and also to have
9:04
an opportunity for Congress to return
9:06
so that he can sit with them in person
9:09
and work through the His halting arms His
9:11
options include as
9:14
I was just saying, those options include
9:17
changes to our approach to security assistance
9:19
to Saudi Arabia. but I'm not gonna get ahead
9:21
of the president. What I will say is there's nothing imminently
9:24
moving now. So there is time for him
9:26
to have those consultations to make
9:28
decisions that are in the best interest of American
9:30
people. That's what he's going to do. President
9:32
Biden, as you know, faced criticism
9:33
for his meetings with
9:36
the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
9:38
Salman that was in July. Will
9:40
president Biden meet with the Crown Prince
9:42
again at the G20 summit
9:45
next month?
9:45
Donald Berwick:
9:47
He has no plans to meet with the crown prince
9:50
at the G20 summit. And
9:52
he is focused however on making
9:54
sure that through every engagement
9:57
that he has across the board, He's
9:59
looking out for not just the US,
10:01
but for our allies as well. One of the
10:03
things that he was able to achieve in that
10:05
meeting in July was the historic
10:08
opening of Saudi's airspace to Israeli
10:11
commercial air traffic. The first
10:13
step Saudi Arabia has ever taken
10:16
on a path towards normalization with Israel,
10:18
which we believe was a positive
10:20
thing for him to be able to deliver for a strong
10:22
partner of ours. Let's turn to Russia. President
10:24
Biden says the Pentagon is working on possible
10:26
responses
10:27
to a Russian nuclear strike.
10:29
One potential Russian action
10:31
could be a so called tactical nuclear
10:34
weapon that could take out a small target
10:36
relatively small like an airport or
10:38
maybe just detonate a nuclear
10:40
weapon in the Black Sea. Would you
10:42
see either of those as less
10:44
serious or is deploying rather
10:48
a nuclear weapon just as serious no matter
10:50
how big or where it is.
10:53
The use of a nuclear weapon on
10:55
the battlefield in Ukraine is the use
10:57
of Nuclear Weapon ON THE BATTLE Field IN UCCRAINE
10:59
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SLACE THE SALAMI. WHETHER
11:02
THAT'S -- DOES THAT
11:04
INCLUDE JUST detonating
11:06
it in the Black Sea?
11:07
Donald Berwick: Well,
11:11
first, the Black Sea includes
11:13
the ports of Odessa and other
11:15
cities from which the Ukrainians are
11:17
currently exporting grain to
11:19
the world market.
11:21
So the notion that somehow
11:23
there's differences in
11:25
use here, I think, is a dangerous
11:28
notion from our perspective. We
11:30
believe it is incumbent upon The
11:32
United States working with our NATO allies
11:34
and partners in other responsible countries
11:36
around the world, including the likes of China and
11:38
India, to send a very clear and
11:40
decisive message to Russia that
11:43
they should not contemplate the use of nuclear
11:45
weapons in this conflict. In Iran,
11:47
security officials are continuing to
11:49
crack down on protesters. Former
11:51
president Barack Obama was
11:53
reflecting on similar protests in
11:56
Iran during his presidency that happened
11:58
in and nine. And he said he regretted holding
12:00
back some public support for
12:02
protesters. Listen
12:03
to what he said.
12:05
in retrospect,
12:07
I think that was a mistake.
12:10
Every every time we see a
12:12
flash
12:13
a
12:15
a glimmer
12:17
of hope, of
12:19
of people longing for freedom.
12:21
I think we have to POINTED
12:25
OUT. WE HAVE TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON IT. WE HAVE
12:27
TO EXPRESS SOME SOLIDARITY ABOUT
12:29
IT. IS
12:30
THE BIND ADMINISTRATION DOING EVERYTHING
12:32
YOU CAN to
12:33
help the protesters in Iran?
12:37
We are taking a
12:39
range of aggressive actions to
12:41
try to support the protesters in Iran.
12:43
The first thing that we're doing is trying to hold
12:45
accountable those brutal officials
12:48
in the Iranian regime who are cracking
12:50
down on protesters, killing protesters, beating
12:52
protests, We have sanctioned
12:55
themorat the so called morality police.
12:57
We have sanctioned senior officials who
12:59
have participated in the brutal crackdown
13:01
in repression. We've sanctioned the communications
13:04
minister who is responsible for trying
13:06
to cut off the Internet from Iranian
13:08
communicating with one another. And then
13:10
we've taken steps to try to make it
13:12
easier for brave Iranians,
13:15
the women and citizens of Iran standing
13:17
up for their dignity to be able to talk
13:19
to one another and to be able to talk to the
13:21
world. We are always looking for
13:23
more things that we can do. And in fact,
13:25
Just this past week, I had the opportunity
13:28
to meet with Iranian activists
13:30
who are working from outside the country to
13:32
support those who are working inside the country.
13:35
to hear their ideas for additional steps
13:37
the United States can take. We stand
13:39
unequivocally, clearly, emphatically,
13:42
and with principles and values on
13:44
the side of the Iranian protesters, the
13:47
women and citizens standing up for their
13:49
freedom and their dignity, president Biden
13:51
has spoken to this multiple times, and we
13:53
will continue to do that
13:55
day in, day out just as I am doing here on
13:57
your program now. Jake Sullivan, the
14:00
President's
14:00
National Security Advisor. Thank you for
14:02
joining me this morning.
14:03
Thank
14:05
you. And
14:06
it's one of the most consequential
14:08
match ups in the country this fall,
14:11
the race for governor of Arizona. The
14:13
candidates here, Republican Kerry
14:15
Lake and Democrat Katie Hobbs will
14:17
join us next. And does
14:19
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14:22
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14:24
GOP, I'll talk to both candidates in
14:26
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Welcome back to the state of the union with a
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little more than three weeks before Election
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Day. We're gonna focus on two key mid term
15:43
races and talk to the candidates on both sides
15:45
who will help determine how the United
15:48
States is run. We're gonna start in Arizona
15:50
where the battle for the governor's mansion
15:52
is neck and neck. The contest
15:54
is underway to lead there. It's
15:57
one of the most critical states in the
15:59
nation. Both Democratic
15:59
Secretary of State, Katy Hobbs, and
16:02
the Republican nominee, former television
16:04
broadcaster,
16:04
and fierce Trump ally Carrie Lake
16:07
are joining me this morning. Miss
16:09
Lake, I'm going to start with you and I want
16:11
to start on the question that
16:13
everybody says is their top issue across
16:15
the country, and that is the economy. Inflation
16:18
is still near its highest levels
16:20
in four decades. In your capital city of
16:22
Phoenix, It has the highest
16:24
inflation in the entire country,
16:27
thirteen
16:27
percent. So if you are elected governor,
16:29
what specifically would you do differently
16:32
to fix that? Well,
16:34
it's a tough issue because it originates.
16:36
The problem does out of Washington DC, but
16:39
we still have to help our citizens here in Arizona.
16:41
and the people who are suffering really the most
16:43
I've learned is, is the people who
16:46
are nearing retirement or who
16:48
are retired. I've talked to so
16:50
many of them and they say, Carrie, I
16:52
saved all my life, I did everything right,
16:54
and my retirement savings has shriveled
16:56
up by third. I've lost a third of it.
16:58
since Joe Biden took office. And so we're
17:01
going to help in any way we can. And that's why
17:03
I unveiled a plan last week
17:05
to put a half billion dollars back into
17:07
hardworking Arizona's pockets by
17:10
getting rid of our rental tax and
17:12
our tax on groceries here in Arizona.
17:15
And this is not going to harm the cities
17:17
The general fund, we're gonna help them for
17:19
the next five years with the general fund, and
17:21
we're gonna make sure that they have
17:24
enough to get by. This is a growing
17:26
Arizona. People want to move here
17:28
and our revenues are going up and we have a surplus.
17:31
We need to hand some of that back over to
17:33
the hardworking people and we will.
17:35
Let's turn to another issue facing
17:37
your state and that is the influx of migrants
17:40
at the southern border. A lot of these individuals
17:43
are seeking a asylum. They are fleeing
17:45
political violence in countries like Guatemala
17:47
and Honduras. Do you accept
17:49
that the US has a responsibility
17:52
to accept
17:52
those asylum seekers?
17:55
Well, the vast majority of the people coming
17:57
across don't really meet the
17:59
criteria for asylum.
18:01
There's a lot of fraudulent asylum, claims
18:03
that are being made. I'm really
18:05
concerned about the people of Arizona. We've
18:07
had five million people come in and we've
18:09
had million of them called God of WAYS. That
18:12
means we're not even processing them. They
18:14
want to avoid capture because they have criminal
18:16
records. We need to vet people coming into
18:18
our country. We have a great legal
18:20
immigration system, a very generous
18:22
legal immigration system, but we
18:24
can't afford to take on
18:26
the world's problems right now when
18:28
so many Americans are struggling, so
18:30
many Arizona's are struggling,
18:31
and I'm really concerned about
18:33
the number of seizures
18:35
we've had with fentanyl. coming
18:37
across the border. It is the number one killer
18:40
of young people in this country, and it's coming
18:42
through Arizona. We're no longer going to allow
18:44
the cartels to have operational
18:47
control of our border. Well, DHS says
18:49
that less than one percent of migrants encountered
18:52
at the border have a criminal record, but I want to
18:54
stick on on the question of asylum.
18:56
Those that do meet the criteria.
18:58
Should they be allowed to stay
19:01
in this country? And do you think that the
19:04
what the current governor Doug Doosey
19:06
has done sending some of the migrants to
19:08
Washington DC is the right thing to
19:10
do. Would you continue that practice? Dana,
19:13
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that figure
19:15
you just put out. We have a million Godawace.
19:17
These are people who are intentionally entering
19:20
this country mainly through the Tucson
19:22
sector, and we don't know what their
19:24
background is. There's a reason they're trying to get
19:26
in unnoticed. It's
19:28
because they have a criminal background.
19:30
and they are coming into this country. We know
19:32
that they have tracked down terrorists. They've
19:34
tracked down people wanted for murder. You
19:36
can go to the customs in border patrol
19:39
site, and you'll see we've got murderers coming
19:41
in. We have people with reps, with
19:43
a rape record. You
19:45
name it. We've got hardened criminals coming
19:47
from let me just say let me just
19:49
tell you that this stat that
19:51
I just cited comes from the Department of Homeland
19:54
Security. less than one percent of migrants.
19:56
And
19:56
I know that you're using language
19:59
like rapists and
19:59
and criminals and so forth. what
20:01
I was asking about are migrants seeking
20:04
asylum. But I wanna move on to another
20:06
really important issue, particularly
20:09
when it comes to your critical swing state of
20:11
Arizona.
20:11
And that is what happened in twenty
20:13
twenty. You called the twenty twenty election
20:15
corrupt. stolen, rotten, and
20:18
rigged, and there was no evidence
20:20
of any of that presented in court of law
20:22
or anywhere else. that
20:24
any of those things are true. So
20:27
why do you keep saying that? Well,
20:29
there's plenty of evidence we had seven hundred
20:31
and forty thousand ballots with No
20:34
chain of custody. Those ballots shouldn't have been
20:36
counted. We had a lairs of evidence
20:38
in that.
20:40
Dana, there's plenty of evidence you
20:42
can find it. Well, I can I can I'm happy to send
20:44
it to your team. The problem is the media won't
20:46
cover it. And they're We've covered
20:48
this extensively, and and what you
20:50
just said has been Oh, on one side of it. Dana.
20:53
The real issue, Dana, is
20:55
that the people don't trust
20:57
our elections. They haven't since two thousand.
20:59
I'm a reporter I've been sitting on your
21:01
side of the desk for long time. And
21:03
since two thousand, we have Americans who
21:05
don't trust our elections. In two thousand
21:08
and two thousand four. They didn't trust the elections.
21:10
In twenty sixteen, Kamala
21:12
Harris, Amy
21:13
Klobuchar,
21:14
and Hillary Clinton, everybody
21:17
on the Democrat side
21:18
said the election had problems. Miss,
21:20
like, there definitely hasn't been some of that,
21:23
but I want to say in two thousand Al
21:25
Gore conceded.
21:26
In two thousand and four, John Carey
21:28
receded. It conceded. In twenty
21:30
sixteen, Hillary Clinton conceded, and
21:32
we didn't see that in twenty twenty.
21:34
That's the difference. And so the question is,
21:36
are you undermining faith in elections
21:40
by saying that
21:42
the twenty twenty election was
21:44
stolen when there's absolutely no evidence
21:47
to support that. Dana?
21:49
In twenty eighteen, Stacey Abrams
21:51
never conceded she still hasn't. I don't
21:53
hear CNN calling her an election
21:56
denier. We have the right It's
21:58
protected with our first amendment to
22:00
question our government and to question elections.
22:03
No questions. We still have the first amendment.
22:05
Yeah.
22:05
Still have the first amendment. And when you
22:07
start seeing the media cancel people
22:09
for questioning their government, then
22:11
there that's when we have a problem. I I totally
22:14
agree about the first amendment. You and I are
22:16
benefiting for the first amendment as we
22:18
speak. So I couldn't agree with you
22:20
more on that. I wanna play I wanna
22:23
play for you something that president Trump's
22:25
own top officials. They're
22:27
the ones who investigated all of this. Again,
22:29
these are president Trump's top
22:31
officials at the justice department. and
22:34
they said under oath that they
22:36
saw no evidence of of
22:39
substantial fraud in twenty twenty. Take a
22:41
listen.
22:42
I made it
22:44
clear. I did not agree with the
22:46
idea of saying the election was stolen
22:48
and putting out this stuff, which I told the president
22:50
was bullshit. I said something to the effect
22:52
of sir, we've done dozens of investigations, hundreds
22:55
of interviews, the major allegations
22:57
are not supported by the evidence developed.
23:00
we were in a position to stay.
23:04
Our people have always looked at that, and we know
23:06
that you're getting bad information. That's
23:08
that's not correct.
23:11
So
23:11
these are president Trump's own top justice
23:13
department officials. Why
23:15
not believe them? I'm
23:17
looking at what's happening in Maricopa County. And
23:20
you know what, let's look at the twenty twenty
23:22
two election of August second, where
23:24
one hour into election
23:26
day because of my opponent, Katie
23:28
Hobbs' incompetence, we
23:31
ran out of ballots one hour into election
23:33
day and one
23:33
of our largest counties Penau County.
23:36
That did happen. And the county officials there
23:37
apologized. public and ballot. Well, I'm gonna
23:40
push back on things that didn't happen, that did
23:42
happen.
23:42
and the county and the county officials
23:45
apologize. But I wanna ask about
23:47
-- But day twenty twenty elections. --
23:49
an apology doesn't bring somebody's vote
23:52
back. All I'm saying is we need
23:54
to restore honesty and integrity
23:56
and transparency to our elections. But
23:59
isn't it? apologizing. I'm doing just
24:01
that. You're right. It doesn't bring vote BACK, BUT
24:03
AT LEAST THAT IS TRANSPARENTS AND THAT
24:05
IS TRANSPARENTS. SO
24:06
the IF
24:07
LEADERS SAY THAT YOU AND PRESIDENT
24:09
TRUMP ARE SAYING that the
24:12
election was stolen, aren't you
24:14
participating, contributing even causing
24:16
the idea of
24:19
people thinking that the election
24:21
is not safe and secure.
24:24
No. We are going to make sure elections
24:26
are safe and cure for Democrats, independents,
24:28
and Republicans alike. We wanna know that
24:30
our legal vote counted. We wanna know the
24:32
winner on election night. We don't wanna be
24:34
counting for ten days. and we want
24:36
everyone to know. But she count don't
24:38
you want your votes to count in the interim?
24:41
Do you want your votes to be counted?
24:44
No
24:44
matter how long it takes in twenty twenty
24:46
two in November. Dana.
24:47
Dana, I've been on the campaign trail for
24:49
five hundred and three days. I
24:51
talked to moms and dads who are losing
24:54
children
24:54
because of fentanyl poisoning.
24:55
I talked to retirees who can't afford
24:57
gas and food. I talked to parents
25:00
whose children are getting out of high school and can't
25:02
read. We have serious problems -- I
25:04
totally agree. -- honor. I totally agree, which
25:06
is why they Shane denial. have me on
25:08
here, Dana. You wanna have me on here and
25:10
talk twenty twenty election. And you're live
25:13
I would never bring this up ever
25:15
had you not been bringing this up consistently
25:17
on the campaign trail? Let's look forward then.
25:20
Will you access the results of the election?
25:22
in your election. Will you accept the results? talk
25:25
about the issues. I came on
25:27
here thinking we were gonna talk about the issues
25:29
facing Arizona's right now. We did. You've spent
25:31
the entire this time talking about twenty twenty.
25:33
I think you're stuck on twenty twenty. I
25:35
really do. I would I have interviewed many,
25:38
many Republicans and haven't even mentioned
25:40
it. I only did with you because this
25:42
is a big thing that you are running on. Let's
25:44
look ahead. Yeah. And let's let's talk
25:46
about the twenty twenty two election. Will you
25:48
accept the results of your election, miss
25:50
Lake? I'm
25:51
I'm running against a twice convicted
25:53
racist to cost the state taxpayers three
25:56
million dollars because of her
25:58
hatred for people of color. She paid
26:00
a woman of color in her office thirty thousand
26:03
dollars less than men doing the same job.
26:05
Last week, we learned she held a slave
26:08
auction, mock slave auction in high
26:10
school. We saw her running from a black
26:12
reporter hiding in the bathroom from
26:14
him. I'm not gonna lose this election
26:16
because I'm gonna talk to Katy Hobbs. I'm gonna
26:18
talk to Katy Hobbs right after their governor. will
26:20
never elect a racist like Katie
26:22
Hodge. My question is, will you accept
26:24
the results
26:26
of your election in November?
26:28
I'm
26:28
gonna win the election and I will accept
26:31
that result. if you lose, will you accept that?
26:34
I'm gonna win the election and I will accept
26:36
that result. Because the people will never the
26:38
people of Arizona will never support
26:40
and vote for a cow like Katie Hobbs
26:42
who won't show up on a debate stage. She's
26:44
single handedly destroying a twenty year
26:46
tradition of gubernatorial debates because
26:49
of her cowardice. So I know
26:51
already. No momentum behind
26:53
her. The polls are in our favor, and we're
26:55
gonna win this election. I'm a hundred percent confident
26:57
of that. We have the ideas common
27:00
sense ideas that people want,
27:02
and we're seeing Democrats pour
27:05
over and vote for us right now. I've I've
27:07
had many people reach out and say they're voting for
27:09
So the democrat party is faltering.
27:11
It's not the party of solutions. It's
27:13
the party that has caused the problems that we're
27:15
in there right now. I really appreciate you coming
27:17
on with me.
27:19
and answering these questions. And I'm
27:21
gonna go now to your
27:22
Democratic opponent, Katie
27:24
Hobbs, to talk
27:25
to her about some
27:26
of the things that you and I just talked about.
27:28
and here with me now is
27:29
Katie Hobbs.
27:30
We have lot to get to, but you were
27:33
secretary of state. You are now, you were in twenty
27:35
twenty. your reaction to what you just
27:37
heard
27:37
on that issue from Carrie Lake? Look,
27:40
I think anyone running for office
27:43
who continues to say there was widespread
27:45
fraud. They have they say they have evidence.
27:47
They have yet to bring any evidence forward.
27:50
You and you and I have talked about this so many times
27:52
This is absolutely disqualifying.
27:55
This is somebody who will have
27:57
a level of authority over states
27:59
elections
27:59
the ability to
28:02
sign new legislation into law,
28:04
the responsibility of certifying future
28:06
elections, and she has not only
28:08
as you heard refused to say if she'll accept
28:11
the results of this election, but
28:13
also whether or not she would certify
28:15
the twenty twenty four presidential election
28:17
if she's governor. This is disqualifying. This
28:20
is a basic core of our democracy.
28:23
And she has nothing else to run on.
28:25
And so this what she has ascended her entire
28:27
campaign around. Let's talk
28:28
about the issue of abortion.
28:30
You said last week that you
28:32
support leaving the decision between
28:34
a woman and her doctor and leaving
28:36
politicians entirely out of it. So can
28:38
you clarify, do you support any legal
28:41
limits on abortion in Arizona?
28:44
Look,
28:45
the fact is right now that we are under an
28:47
extreme fifteen week ban
28:49
that limits healthcare options for women
28:51
who need them, there's the
28:53
potential for a complete
28:56
ban right now that ban is in the courts,
28:58
but under my opponents administration
29:01
she would support a full ban. She's
29:03
called this a great law. She doesn't
29:05
support any exceptions. What do you super obsessed?
29:09
Look, when you're talking about late term
29:11
abortion, that is incredibly extremely
29:14
rare. And it's happening if
29:16
there is if that conversation
29:18
is happening, it's because there's something
29:21
that's gone incredibly wrong in the pregnancy.
29:23
And
29:24
politicians do not belong
29:26
in that decision. But what do you so or what
29:28
should the limits be? The
29:31
the decision about abortion
29:33
should be between a patient and their doctor.
29:35
So there should be no limits in the
29:38
law. It should only be decided in
29:40
the medical office.
29:44
Government making these kind of mandates
29:46
interferes with the care that doctors need
29:48
to provide to their patients. They don't belong
29:50
in these decisions.
29:53
Okay. So just to be clear,
29:55
if you
29:56
become governor, you
29:58
will push for a law that has absolutely
30:00
no limits in any
30:03
point of the pregnancy on abortion. That's your
30:05
position. That's what you would want to be the law of the land
30:07
in Arizona.
30:09
The fact is right now that we have very
30:11
limited options and that
30:13
we need to get politicians
30:16
out of the way and let doctors provide
30:18
the care that they are trained to
30:20
provide the healthcare that their patients
30:22
need. Politicians don't belong in
30:24
those decisions.
30:26
You declined to participate in a
30:28
PBS debate against Kerry Lake.
30:30
Here's what one columnist from the Arizona
30:32
Republican wrote. Lori
30:35
Roberts from the Arizona Republic.
30:37
This is what she wrote. She wrote. If Katie Hobbs
30:39
loses, remember
30:40
October twelfth, the day she ran away from
30:42
confronting
30:42
Kerry Lake. Democrats in Arizona
30:45
are known for snatching defeat from the jaws
30:47
of victory, but Hobbes refusal to
30:49
debate her opponent on Wednesday represents
30:51
a new level of political malpractice.
30:55
Why
30:55
won't you debate her?
30:57
Look, Kerry Lake has made it clear
30:59
time and time again that she's not interested
31:02
in having substantive in-depth
31:04
conversations about the issues that matter
31:06
to Arizona's. She only wants
31:08
a scenario where she can control the dialogue,
31:11
and she's refused to sit down in a
31:13
one on one lengthy conversation
31:15
to really clarify with Arizona's where
31:18
she is on the issues. She's the one
31:20
who's afraid of of talking to voters
31:22
where she's at. And we are
31:24
doing everything we can to take to
31:26
make our case directly to the voters
31:29
of Arizona. And I guarantee you I
31:31
guarantee you that when Arizona's
31:33
who are struggling, when they go to open their
31:35
ballot, when they're thinking
31:37
about the fact that they're
31:39
not sure how they're gonna put food on the table
31:41
they're rationing their insulin or they're
31:43
thinking about having to drive
31:45
their niece or their sister
31:47
or their daughter to California to get the healthcare
31:50
that they need. they're not gonna look at their
31:52
ballots. She just came and sat
31:55
down and sat down with me
31:57
and answered my questions for
31:59
a lot of minutes. Yeah.
32:02
A lot of Democrats are questioning your decision,
32:04
and they're saying, you know, it's
32:06
the wrong decision. President Biden's former
32:09
twenty twenty co chair said, I would
32:11
debate and I would want the people of Arizona
32:13
to know what my platform is. If
32:16
you think she's as dangerous as you're saying
32:18
to democracy, is it your responsibility as
32:20
a candidate who wants to run Arizona? to
32:23
show and explain who their alternative is?
32:26
That is exactly what I'm doing
32:28
right now. And there is
32:31
a lot more ability to have a
32:33
conversation with you without her
32:35
interruptions and shouting to
32:37
do that. And and, yeah,
32:39
she did sit down with you. She's refused to do
32:41
that with any legitimate reporter in
32:43
the state of Arizona and take her
32:45
case directly to the voters. She's only
32:47
interested in creating a spectacle. And
32:49
I guarantee you people that are
32:51
struggling in Arizona right now are not making
32:53
their decisions about whether
32:55
whether over whether or not there was
32:58
a debate between myself and Carrie Lake. They're gonna
33:00
make their decision based on the person
33:02
who understands their struggle and
33:04
has real solutions to try to fix
33:06
that struggle. Real quick, inflation
33:08
is near as highest level in four decades.
33:10
You heard me ask Carrie Lake about Phoenix. highest
33:13
inflation in the country. Democrats control
33:15
the house, the senate, the White House. Does
33:17
president Biden bear some responsibility for
33:20
inflation that we're seeing that are affecting
33:22
people's everyday lives. Inflation
33:25
in Arizona is being largely
33:27
driven by skyrocketing housing costs.
33:30
and we have to do more about housing.
33:32
We need to build more bottom line.
33:34
Supply is not keeping up with demand.
33:36
Prices are through the roof and people are being
33:39
priced out. of their homes. And
33:41
we're seeing a huge increase
33:43
in people who are
33:45
experiencing homelessness right now because of
33:48
that The fact is I have a real
33:50
plan to address rising costs
33:52
for Arizona's, put money back in
33:54
the in the pockets of working families,
33:56
and experts have looked at both my plans
33:58
and Cary Lakes plans. And my plan
34:00
is the plan that will actually address inflation
34:03
and put people back to work by
34:06
providing additional child care assistance
34:09
and a tax credit for folks who pursue
34:11
career and technical education. The
34:13
same expert described Carrie Lake's plan as
34:16
putting jet fuel on fire
34:18
of inflation. Katie
34:19
Hobbs, thank you so much for joining me.
34:22
Appreciate it. Thank
34:23
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Welcome back to the State of the Union. This
35:45
week, the president spent time and political
35:47
capital to go somewhere. Democrats thought
35:49
was pretty safely blue this year,
35:51
and that's Colorado. But two term incumbent
35:54
Democratic senator Michael Bennett now holds
35:56
a narrower than expected lead over
35:59
first time candidate. Republican businessman
36:01
Joe O'Dea, who Mitch McConnell calls the perfect
36:03
candidate for Colorado, someone who does
36:05
not spread Donald Trump's election yet
36:07
lies and has promised to tell his party know
36:10
when needed. Both O'Dea and
36:12
senator Bennett are here with us today, and
36:14
I want to begin with the Republican candidate
36:17
Joe O'Dea, and I want to start with
36:19
the economy. There is a new inflation
36:21
report this week that shows core inflation
36:24
reaching its highest point in forty
36:26
years Utility Gas is
36:28
up thirty three percent chicken,
36:31
milk, vegetables,
36:32
they're all up If
36:34
you were in the Senate, what specifically
36:36
would you do to fix the inflation
36:39
problem?
36:41
Then
36:42
thanks for having me on today. This
36:44
inflation has been caused by the one point
36:46
nine trillion dollars reckless spending
36:49
bill that got put in place by
36:51
Michael Benedict cast the deciding vote
36:53
back in March of last year.
36:55
It's caused record inflation. They've dumped over
36:57
five trillion dollars in the last year and
37:00
a half. In addition to that, the war
37:02
on energy has caused the price of
37:04
diesel to go through the ceiling, and it's still
37:06
there today. We've got a Fed
37:08
that's been asleep at the wheel, big government
37:10
in in our way. And those are just a few
37:13
of the issues that I'm gonna address when I hit you.
37:15
you're in January. How? What would you do?
37:18
Well, first off, we first off, we've got
37:20
to get our energy policy back on track.
37:22
We've got to get energy, wind, solar,
37:25
nuclear, good and clean natural
37:27
gas. We've got to get the permitting out of
37:29
the way so we can go back to work here in Colorado
37:31
and flood the market with increase
37:33
supply. It'll cause the price to
37:35
come down. Inflation will go away. That's
37:38
how you do it.
37:39
Washington is once again debating
37:42
stricter gun laws. After yet another
37:44
mass shooting in North Carolina, in your
37:46
state of Colorado, there is one
37:48
gun death every ten hours. You
37:51
said you would have voted
37:52
against a bipartisan bill
37:53
that Mitch McConnell and fourteen other Republicans
37:56
supported this summer. So do you think
37:58
any additional gun
37:59
restrictions are needed at any
38:02
level?
38:04
Look, every time we have an event,
38:06
we pass another set of laws. Democrats
38:09
here in Colorado have ignored the laws
38:11
that are on the books. As a drug dealer,
38:13
you can possess a weapon should be
38:15
a felony. They're not taking them off the streets.
38:17
We need more cops on our streets.
38:20
We need to make sure that we're enforcing
38:22
the laws that we have. We don't need a whole host
38:24
of new laws. What we need to do is
38:26
make sure we're enforcing the ones we have. Howard
38:29
Bauchner: There
38:29
is a red flag law in Colorado
38:31
that's focused on mental health. You say
38:34
Colorado's law there doesn't
38:36
work.
38:37
Why not?
38:40
Well, when I talk to the sheriffs that are ones
38:42
that are putting that law in place, and having
38:44
to implement it. They don't think
38:46
that law works. It puts them at risk.
38:49
They're not happy with that law. It needs to be
38:51
rewritten here in here in Colorado. It's
38:53
not doing the job that it's supposed to
38:55
do. We need to do more with mental
38:57
health here to get these people off the street, but
38:59
we have hundreds of laws on the books.
39:02
We need to enforce them. Well, there's more cops
39:04
on our street right now. If you talk
39:06
to chief pays in here, to the city and county of
39:08
Denver, he's the chief of police, He'll tell you
39:10
he short two hundred and fifty officers.
39:12
That's because Democrats across the
39:14
state of Colorado have defunded, demoralized
39:17
the police. Well, let's stick to guns.
39:19
Let's stick to guns. for that position.
39:21
Colorado, the red
39:23
flag law is intended in part to deal
39:25
with mental health, which is what talking about in Colorado
39:28
has approved one hundred and forty
39:30
six applications to take away
39:32
a gun from a dangerous individual
39:34
in the last two years. Doesn't
39:36
that make your state more safe?
39:40
Well, it's not. We're the third
39:42
worst state for violent crime in the United
39:44
States right now. They just deemed dead
39:47
Denver as one of the on most unsafe
39:49
cities in the nation. You go
39:51
around here and you we have record crime
39:54
everywhere. We need to enforce the
39:56
laws that we have on the books. Get these
39:58
criminals off the street.
39:59
We've got
40:01
cashless bonds that are being put
40:03
in place. We're not getting these criminal off the street that's
40:06
problem with crime here in Colorado. Let
40:07
me turn to an issue that you I
40:10
know you've talked about, and that is January sixth.
40:13
this past week, the January sixth committee
40:15
held its final hearing before the midterm
40:18
elections. You have said Donald Trump could
40:20
have done a lot more to stop January
40:22
sixty in direction to violent attack on
40:24
the capital from happening. Do you
40:26
think what happened on January sixth
40:28
should disqualify him from being
40:30
president again?
40:33
Look, I believe that the
40:36
January sixth was a black eye on the country.
40:38
I've been very vocal that I thought he should have done
40:40
more. to keep the violence
40:42
from heading towards the capital.
40:45
Anybody that was violent
40:47
at the capital or or tore something apart.
40:49
They should be held accountable. We've got processes
40:52
in place that hold people accountable, and
40:54
we need to move the country forward. So it but it's
40:57
moving Donald Trump should run again. I'm gonna
40:59
actively I'm gonna actively campaign
41:01
against Donald Trump and make sure
41:03
that we've got four or five really great Republicans
41:06
right now, Rhonda Santos, Mickey Haley,
41:08
Tim Scott, they can run and
41:10
serve for eight years. I'm gonna do my
41:12
job as a US senator to make sure
41:15
that they have good campaigns in the
41:17
primary here, so we have a good selection
41:19
of candidates for twenty twenty four.
41:22
Before
41:22
let you go, abortion is shaping up
41:24
to be a major issue in the midterms. You
41:26
support a twenty week ban in Colorado with
41:29
exceptions for rape and incest. Two years
41:31
ago, your state rejected a twenty
41:33
two week ban. Colorado currently
41:35
has no limits on abortion, so
41:38
Are you out of step with your state?
41:42
Now,
41:42
I believe for the first five months
41:45
that decision should be between a woman and
41:47
a doctor. After that, for rape
41:49
incessed, life of the mother,
41:51
medical necessity, I believe that decision should
41:53
also be between a woman and her doctor.
41:55
Michael Bennett voted for a bill
41:57
that supports abortion up
41:59
to and including the moment of birth.
42:02
I'm asking about your -- I'm asking
42:04
about your -- That position. -- that's excessive.
42:07
That's excessive. My position's
42:09
where most of American is. That's
42:11
excessive. Howard Bauchner: Okay,
42:12
Joe O'Dea. Thank you so much. I appreciate
42:15
it. I wanna go now to Michael Bennett. the
42:17
Democratic
42:17
senator from
42:18
Colorado. And he is,
42:21
of course, defending his seat against who just
42:23
heard Joe O'Dea. It has been
42:25
two months since Democrats passed. the
42:27
so called inflation reduction act, which
42:29
you call the victory for the American people. Core
42:32
inflation is still at its highest
42:34
level in four decades. And
42:36
polls shows, as you know,
42:38
that polls show, I should say, that
42:41
the economy is a top issue
42:42
for Colorado voters. So
42:44
Why isn't the inflation reduction
42:46
act
42:47
reducing inflation? Well,
42:50
because the elements of the inflation
42:52
reduction act aren't going to kick in
42:54
for a while, Dana? I mean, the
42:56
cap on drug prices for
42:58
seniors and the requirement. Finally, finally,
43:01
we overcame pharma. to have requirement
43:04
that Medicare negotiate drug prices
43:06
on behalf of the American people capping
43:08
insulin at thirty five dollars a month
43:10
mean, these are things that are going to take a while
43:13
to put in place. And you're right,
43:15
I mean, today gasoline is three
43:17
point seven zero dollars a gallon here in
43:19
Colorado, gallon and mill cost four dollars
43:22
and twenty cents. That's really tough
43:24
on people. And
43:26
think one of the things I've been trying to explained
43:29
to folks is that this is a global
43:31
problem. Canada has the same
43:33
inflation that we have. The European
43:35
-- every country in Europe has the same inflation
43:38
we have the U. K. does as well.
43:40
India has as well because we're
43:42
facing broken global supply
43:44
chains that we have to have to address
43:47
and we're facing increases
43:49
in energy prices because two years ago
43:52
oil was a twenty dollars a barrel
43:54
went to ninety three because of
43:56
the economic recovery and then
43:58
Putin invaded Ukraine.
43:59
The
44:00
fact that it is global as cold comfort
44:03
when you're pick
44:04
paying three point seven zero dollars a barrel.
44:06
I'd like to you to
44:09
react to what I'd like you to react to what Go ahead. A former
44:11
Treasury Secretary, Larry Summers,
44:12
Democrat has said,
44:15
which is that the spending that
44:17
you in part or you did vote for
44:19
over the last couple of years, particularly one point
44:22
nine trillion dollars for the American
44:24
Rescue Plan exacerbated the
44:26
inflation we're seeing now.
44:29
Right.
44:29
I mean, I know Larry Summers said that
44:31
they're economists that have said other
44:33
things. I I believe
44:36
that the bill that we passed kept
44:38
thirty thousand coloradans from
44:40
being evicted. I think that
44:42
it is funded law enforcement all over
44:44
the state. mental health services that
44:46
we desperately need. It cut childhood
44:48
poverty in half last year because of
44:50
a bill that I wrote. You know,
44:53
I'm I'm I'm concerned
44:55
that the Federal Reserve kept
44:57
their interest rates at zero for too
44:59
long and that their quantitative easing was
45:01
too aggressive. but that's looking
45:04
in the rearview mirror. What we need to do now
45:06
is fix the issue. And I think we can fix
45:08
the issue by bringing our
45:10
supply chains back to the United States
45:12
by making sure that we are benefiting
45:16
from the inflation reduction act in the sense
45:19
that we are leading the world in
45:21
transition from fossil
45:23
fuels over the next twenty five years
45:25
to a net zero energy
45:28
economy, the United States is perfectly
45:30
positioned to do that now. we are
45:32
in a place now where we
45:34
can unlike before we pass that bill,
45:37
where we can reduce costs, where we can
45:40
increase our energy independence and
45:43
our economic strength and
45:45
reduce emissions while we're doing both of those
45:47
things. Senator. I think that's an amazing place
45:49
for us to be. Senator,
45:50
your opponent,
45:51
you just heard Joe O'Dea disagreed with
45:54
the Supreme
45:54
Court's decision to overturn Roe
45:56
versus
45:56
Wade. He says Joe Biden
45:58
won legitimately
45:59
in twenty twenty. I want our viewers
46:02
to listen to an ad that a Democratic group
46:04
ran TO BOOST OJAY'S OPPONENT
46:07
IN THE GOP PRIMARY, BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT
46:09
HE WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU TO BE. TAKE A LISTEN.
46:12
Politicians O'Dea
46:14
is not who he says he is. O'Dea
46:16
says he wants to reign in government spending,
46:19
but he supports Biden's one point two
46:21
trillion dollar spending bill. And before
46:23
running for senators a Republican, O'Dea
46:25
actually supported Democrats and
46:28
even gave money to Michael Bennett.
46:31
So
46:31
again, that was an ad from a Democratic group.
46:33
How is your campaign now going to paint him
46:36
as a far right republican? Well,
46:39
I think he's painting himself that way.
46:41
I mean, it it's incredible. He
46:44
he has said that he would have voted for
46:47
three all three of Donald Trump's
46:49
supreme court nominees notwithstanding the
46:51
fact that he knows that they overturned Roe
46:54
versus Wade he opposes as
46:56
you just heard Colorado's law
46:59
codifying a woman's right to choose, I'm proud
47:01
to live in a state. It's one of the first states
47:04
to codify that law and he
47:06
opposes it. He opposes he
47:09
he voted last last time we had
47:11
an election in Colorado. HE
47:13
VOTED FOR AN AMEND A
47:15
BALLOT ISSUE THAT A
47:19
BAND ABORTION IN you
47:21
know, in band abortion and
47:23
had no exceptions for rape or
47:25
incest. He says that Donald Trump, even
47:27
though he probably knows better, BARRIS
47:29
NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT
47:31
HAPPENED ON GENEWIZED. I SHOULD SAY THAT HE
47:33
DID SUPPORT HIM AFTER twenty
47:35
two WEEKS. JUST REAL QUICK, Do
47:37
you given everything you said, was it mistake
47:39
for fellow Democrats to pop him up as
47:41
your opponent? I
47:43
don't think look, I don't think I don't
47:45
think I believe we should reform
47:48
our campaign finance system. It's a mess.
47:50
You know, I've got racist billionaire who's
47:52
funding a super packed that's
47:54
supporting his campaign right now from
47:57
Wyoming. That's not helping voters in
47:59
Colorado, but I want Dana, you to
48:01
know and I want your viewers to know how
48:03
out of touch he is with Colorado. Not
48:05
just on the abortion issue, but the
48:07
idea that he would not support
48:10
any additional gun laws, including
48:12
a law, Mitch McConnell voted
48:15
for in the US. And in your Senate, we're gonna have
48:17
to leave it there. Red flag law
48:19
and Colorado to In the interest of
48:21
fairness of time. After Colin Biden We
48:23
heard him say that. We appreciate you joining
48:25
us. Thank you so much for coming on, senator. very
48:28
much appreciate it. Thanks for having me. and
48:30
character consistency, hypocrisy scandal,
48:32
does any of it matter if you judge the question
48:35
on Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone
48:37
survey says probably no. But
48:39
do the old political rules still apply
48:41
to anyone not named Donald Trump?
48:44
Georgia just may give the answer
48:46
to the country.
48:47
Hersha
48:51
Walker spent a career
48:53
shaking off tackles in the NFL,
48:55
but he's now trying to outrun allegations
48:57
rocking his senate campaign that
48:59
the staunchly anti abortion republican
49:02
who previously backed a total ban
49:04
with no exceptions paid for a
49:06
woman to have an abortion in two thousand
49:08
nine, and then told her to have another
49:10
one two years later.
49:11
This year, the abortion
49:14
thing is false. It's alive. Walker
49:16
is rolling
49:16
out a very modern play. confirmed
49:19
denial.
49:20
Actually, it's alive. Yeah. She's lying.
49:22
Yes. She's lying. And defiance. I'm
49:24
not gonna back down because this seat is
49:26
too important to the Georgia people for
49:29
me to back down right now.
49:30
But in an interview with CNN's Manu
49:32
Raju, senate Republican leader Mitch
49:35
McConnell acknowledged that Walker
49:37
struggles bring back memories of twenty
49:39
twelve when abortion controversies
49:41
helped sink the campaigns of Republican
49:44
Todd Aiken.
49:45
If it's legitimate rape,
49:47
the female body has ways
49:49
to try to shut that whole thing down. And Richard
49:51
Murdoch. Even when life begins
49:53
in that horrible situation of rape,
49:55
THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT GOD
49:57
INTENDED TO HAPPEN. Reporter: DERAILING
49:59
THE GOP'S PATH TO THE SENATE MAJORITY.
50:02
I DOUBLED INTO WHICRIB, NEVER JOINED A Coving
50:05
or of twenty ten when Republican
50:07
Christine O'Donnell put a new spin
50:09
on the old adage if you're explaining,
50:11
I'm not a witch. You're losing. But
50:14
after
50:14
four years of Donald Trump When you're
50:16
a star, they let you do it. Very fine
50:18
people. On both sides, that call was
50:21
a great go. It's a perfect call. Do
50:24
scandals still have the same impact
50:26
they used to? I believe in the second minute.
50:28
In twenty
50:28
seventeen, Republican senate
50:31
candidate Roy Moore may have hoped
50:33
Trump's ability to defy gravity could
50:35
help him weather sexual misconduct
50:37
allegations. Get
50:39
out and vote for
50:41
Roy more but
50:42
he lost in an upset in deep
50:44
red Alabama. Across the aisle,
50:47
North Carolina Democrat, Cal Cunningham,
50:49
sought his twenty twenty senate campaign
50:52
go up in smoke after his steamy
50:54
text messages leaked amid an extra
50:56
marital affair.
50:57
And when New York
50:59
governor Andrew Cuomo tried to follow
51:01
Trump's
51:01
defiant playbook and misconduct
51:04
allegations of his own.
51:05
So I was elected by the people of the state in New
51:07
York
51:08
I'M NOT GOING TO RESIGN. HE
51:10
ULTIMATELY GIVE IN AND STEP DOWN.
51:12
Reporter:
51:14
ONE EXCEPTION, Virginia DEMOCRATIC
51:16
GOVERNOR Ralph NORTHO who in twenty nineteen
51:19
confirmed, then denied appearing
51:21
in a racist yearbook photo, but
51:23
still managed to serve
51:24
out his term. even after
51:26
a truly bizarre press conference.
51:28
Are you still able to move? Inappropriate
51:33
circumstances.
51:35
My wife says inappropriate circumstances.
51:37
Top
51:37
senate Republicans are still
51:40
campaigning for Hershel Walker despite
51:42
concerns over candidate quality.
51:44
With McConnell telling CNN, quote,
51:46
whether it's fatal or a big problem
51:49
this year, we'll find out. and
51:51
with polls showing a competitive race,
51:53
control of the senate could all come down
51:56
to weather in this polarized environment
51:58
voters are still
51:59
swayed by scandal.
52:02
Thanks
52:02
so much for spending your Sunday morning with
52:04
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