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Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

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Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Mi

Sunday, 16th October 2022
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and will voters trust the president

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at two

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key contests. Arizona's

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governor's race with

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Republican Kerry Lake. Thank you so

1:02

much

1:03

president Trump and Democrat Katie

1:05

Hobbs. I'm really proud of the work he

1:07

did in twenty twenty. And as

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Biden makes his swing out west. I

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love you.

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We'll talk to that state's Democratic senator

1:15

Michael Bennett and his challenger Republican

1:18

businessman Joe O'Dea, plus

1:20

simmering crises. President Biden

1:22

debates how to punish one global power

1:25

and keep another from deadly escalation.

1:28

The threats and the US response with

1:30

national security adviser Jake Sullivan.

1:40

Hello. I'm

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Diana Fashion. Wash contain where the state

1:42

of our union is wondering what the country

1:45

will look like in twenty three days. As

1:47

we count down to the midterm elections, the

1:49

president of the United States faces twin

1:51

challenges. Lumi new data

1:54

points show inflation is still running unchecked

1:56

despite attempts by the Fed to cool it

1:58

down. The

1:59

cost at the

1:59

kitchen table is way up,

2:02

fueled in part, at the cost of war

2:04

and clashes with unpredictable global

2:06

powers. The economic and foreign

2:08

policy chaos, part of what's driving

2:10

dramatic uncertainty ahead of next

2:12

month's elections, Today, a special

2:15

focus on the midterms. We'll have interviews

2:17

with the candidates in two critical battleground

2:19

races, one with tremendous

2:22

consequences for the country. Arizona

2:24

where Democrat Katie Hobbs is running

2:26

against Republican Kerry Lake for

2:28

governor and then to Colorado where

2:30

Republican Joe O'Dea is testing whether

2:32

a Republican who distances himself

2:35

from former president Trump could win a

2:37

purple state O'Dea and incumbent

2:39

Democratic senator Michael Bennett will

2:41

be here. But first today, we start

2:44

with the Biden administration and the issue

2:46

voters say over and over is their

2:48

top turn, the economy.

2:52

Here with me now is White House Economic Advisors,

2:55

Cecilia Rouse. Thank you so much for joining

2:57

me. I wanna start with what President

3:00

Biden said on Friday that his administration

3:02

has made some progress on reigning

3:04

and inflation. But Annual inflation

3:07

in September was eight point two percent.

3:09

It barely changed from the month

3:11

before. How was that progress?

3:15

So I very much appreciate

3:17

the question and the inflation

3:20

is very much that the president's

3:22

top concern, it's my cap concern, I

3:24

completely understand how

3:27

that's a big challenge for many families. for

3:29

all families here in United States. So

3:32

what we can see in the economic data

3:34

is the Fed is focused on bringing

3:36

that inflation And the big concern

3:38

is can they bring down inflation while maintaining

3:40

robust economy labor

3:42

market? And we are starting to see signs

3:45

that the actions they are taking is having an

3:47

effect. For example, we

3:50

love having a very strong labor market, but

3:52

it's been very, very strong employers

3:54

are having a very hard time finding workers.

3:55

But we saw in some data last month

3:58

that employers are

3:59

posting fewer job vacancies, which means that

4:02

there's a little bit of easing labor market without

4:04

having any layoffs. We can also see

4:06

that the housing market is beginning to cool, and

4:08

we know that housing prices as part of

4:11

the challenge for families is part of our inflation

4:13

challenge. We know that excess savings

4:15

are starting to be spent. So we

4:17

are starting to see signs that are red

4:19

hot economy is starting to cool. And

4:22

so we know that because of

4:24

that strength, we're in we're better positioned

4:26

than most other countries wanna show

4:28

achieve its goals. I wanna

4:30

show you and our viewers some of the

4:32

other data points that they

4:34

deal with every single day. The price

4:36

of eggs has gone up more than

4:39

thirty percent Gas, chicken,

4:41

coffee, milk, bread have all gone

4:43

up significantly. These are real

4:45

kitchen table issues for America. antsy?

4:49

Absolutely. And the price

4:51

of food is part of our inflation

4:53

challenge. And again, we

4:55

are focused on it to the best of our abilities,

4:58

a part of the challenge for food is

5:00

actually through energy. And so Putin's

5:02

war against Ukraine where

5:04

he has weaponized natural gas. He's

5:06

weaponized energy shows up in food

5:08

prices as well because energy is a big

5:10

component of fertilizer. We have been

5:13

working to ease ports, which actually helps

5:15

to ensure that farmers are able to

5:17

export their products and where they're not sitting on

5:20

a lot of inventory. Our agriculture

5:22

department is doing what it can to try to increase

5:24

supply and increase yields through programs

5:26

such as helping farmers with double cropping.

5:29

So there's no question that families are

5:31

feeling the squeeze. It's why the president

5:33

is focused on trying to bring

5:35

down costs. The inflation reduction asks while

5:37

it doesn't directly speak to food, it

5:40

does go to medical care, it goes

5:42

to energy costs, and So

5:45

we are focused on trying to

5:48

help families get through this. Let me point

5:50

to another

5:50

data point that excludes food

5:53

and energy, the so called core inflation

5:56

number. President Biden touted

5:58

that as a sign that the

6:00

economy was improving BUT

6:02

NOW IT IS ON THE RISE, six

6:05

point six percent THE HIGHEST IN forty YEARS.

6:07

SO BY PRESIDENT BIDEN'S OWN LOGIC DOESN'T

6:09

SHOW THAT THE ECONOMY is actually headed

6:11

in the wrong direction.

6:14

So if one looks month on month, it

6:16

was actually flat. So,

6:18

again, a lot of the reason why core

6:20

inflation increase was because of housing costs

6:23

and medical costs. The inflation reduction

6:26

caps the cost of insulin for seniors at

6:28

thirty five dollars a month. It allows

6:30

Medicare to negotiate with pharmaceuticals, which

6:32

will help bring down the cost of the most

6:34

expensive drugs. a caps out of

6:36

pocket expenses as well. So

6:39

we are focused on trying to address

6:41

medical care and by extending

6:43

the Affordable Care Act extensions

6:46

through for

6:49

another few years, it provides

6:51

it was accessible healthcare for so many

6:53

people. So we're focused on bringing on

6:55

medical care costs. You've

6:57

mentioned I would always point out that housing

7:00

times. Yeah.

7:01

I just I'm just curious and

7:03

a lot of Americans are curious when

7:05

the so called inflation reduction act

7:07

will really start to bring down inflation.

7:12

So the the many parts

7:14

of the bill will start to take effect next

7:16

year. For example, there are tax credits

7:18

for energy to help people weatherize

7:20

their homes and also bring down

7:22

other forms of energy costs. So

7:25

we are focused on helping to make that

7:27

transition to clean energy

7:29

in a way that brings down energy

7:31

cost for families. So this is so

7:33

this is tough. There's no question about it.

7:36

This is challenge. What I will say is

7:38

that this economy is stronger than

7:40

almost every other economy, that the

7:42

Federal Reserve is focused on bringing down

7:44

inflation. This president is committed

7:47

to doing fiscal policy that is complementary

7:49

to the Federal Reserve's actions so that

7:52

we can get through this period just

7:54

as quickly as possible. Cecilia

7:55

Rouse. Thank you so much for joining me

7:57

this morning. Thank

8:00

you. I

8:02

want to turn now to foreign policy and

8:04

some serious global tests FOR THE COMMANDER

8:06

AND CHIEF JOINING ME NOW IS THE WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL

8:08

SECURITY BIZZER. JAKKS Sullivan,

8:10

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. I

8:12

WANT TO START WITH Saudi Arabia, president

8:14

Biden said this week it is time to rethink

8:17

the US relationship with Saudi Arabia

8:19

after they sided with

8:20

Russia to reduce oil production.

8:23

One

8:23

thing some of your fellow Democrats on Capitol

8:25

Hill are pushing is halting future

8:27

armed sales to Saudi Arabia. Can

8:29

you give a reason why the US WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE,

8:32

SELLING ARMs TO Saudi

8:33

Arabia RIGHT NOW?

8:37

WELL,

8:37

FIRST, DANA, THANKS for having me on.

8:39

You're right. The president did say that

8:42

he is going to reevaluate our relationship

8:44

with Saudi Arabia because They did

8:46

side with Russia against the interests of the American

8:48

people. This is relationship that got

8:51

built over decades on a bipartisan

8:53

basis. and so the president isn't going

8:55

to act precipitously. He's gonna act

8:57

methodically, strategically, and he's

8:59

going to take his time to consult with members

9:01

of both parties and also to have

9:04

an opportunity for Congress to return

9:06

so that he can sit with them in person

9:09

and work through the His halting arms His

9:11

options include as

9:14

I was just saying, those options include

9:17

changes to our approach to security assistance

9:19

to Saudi Arabia. but I'm not gonna get ahead

9:21

of the president. What I will say is there's nothing imminently

9:24

moving now. So there is time for him

9:26

to have those consultations to make

9:28

decisions that are in the best interest of American

9:30

people. That's what he's going to do. President

9:32

Biden, as you know, faced criticism

9:33

for his meetings with

9:36

the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin

9:38

Salman that was in July. Will

9:40

president Biden meet with the Crown Prince

9:42

again at the G20 summit

9:45

next month?

9:45

Donald Berwick:

9:47

He has no plans to meet with the crown prince

9:50

at the G20 summit. And

9:52

he is focused however on making

9:54

sure that through every engagement

9:57

that he has across the board, He's

9:59

looking out for not just the US,

10:01

but for our allies as well. One of the

10:03

things that he was able to achieve in that

10:05

meeting in July was the historic

10:08

opening of Saudi's airspace to Israeli

10:11

commercial air traffic. The first

10:13

step Saudi Arabia has ever taken

10:16

on a path towards normalization with Israel,

10:18

which we believe was a positive

10:20

thing for him to be able to deliver for a strong

10:22

partner of ours. Let's turn to Russia. President

10:24

Biden says the Pentagon is working on possible

10:26

responses

10:27

to a Russian nuclear strike.

10:29

One potential Russian action

10:31

could be a so called tactical nuclear

10:34

weapon that could take out a small target

10:36

relatively small like an airport or

10:38

maybe just detonate a nuclear

10:40

weapon in the Black Sea. Would you

10:42

see either of those as less

10:44

serious or is deploying rather

10:48

a nuclear weapon just as serious no matter

10:50

how big or where it is.

10:53

The use of a nuclear weapon on

10:55

the battlefield in Ukraine is the use

10:57

of Nuclear Weapon ON THE BATTLE Field IN UCCRAINE

10:59

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SLACE THE SALAMI. WHETHER

11:02

THAT'S -- DOES THAT

11:04

INCLUDE JUST detonating

11:06

it in the Black Sea?

11:07

Donald Berwick: Well,

11:11

first, the Black Sea includes

11:13

the ports of Odessa and other

11:15

cities from which the Ukrainians are

11:17

currently exporting grain to

11:19

the world market.

11:21

So the notion that somehow

11:23

there's differences in

11:25

use here, I think, is a dangerous

11:28

notion from our perspective. We

11:30

believe it is incumbent upon The

11:32

United States working with our NATO allies

11:34

and partners in other responsible countries

11:36

around the world, including the likes of China and

11:38

India, to send a very clear and

11:40

decisive message to Russia that

11:43

they should not contemplate the use of nuclear

11:45

weapons in this conflict. In Iran,

11:47

security officials are continuing to

11:49

crack down on protesters. Former

11:51

president Barack Obama was

11:53

reflecting on similar protests in

11:56

Iran during his presidency that happened

11:58

in and nine. And he said he regretted holding

12:00

back some public support for

12:02

protesters. Listen

12:03

to what he said.

12:05

in retrospect,

12:07

I think that was a mistake.

12:10

Every every time we see a

12:12

flash

12:13

a

12:15

a glimmer

12:17

of hope, of

12:19

of people longing for freedom.

12:21

I think we have to POINTED

12:25

OUT. WE HAVE TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON IT. WE HAVE

12:27

TO EXPRESS SOME SOLIDARITY ABOUT

12:29

IT. IS

12:30

THE BIND ADMINISTRATION DOING EVERYTHING

12:32

YOU CAN to

12:33

help the protesters in Iran?

12:37

We are taking a

12:39

range of aggressive actions to

12:41

try to support the protesters in Iran.

12:43

The first thing that we're doing is trying to hold

12:45

accountable those brutal officials

12:48

in the Iranian regime who are cracking

12:50

down on protesters, killing protesters, beating

12:52

protests, We have sanctioned

12:55

themorat the so called morality police.

12:57

We have sanctioned senior officials who

12:59

have participated in the brutal crackdown

13:01

in repression. We've sanctioned the communications

13:04

minister who is responsible for trying

13:06

to cut off the Internet from Iranian

13:08

communicating with one another. And then

13:10

we've taken steps to try to make it

13:12

easier for brave Iranians,

13:15

the women and citizens of Iran standing

13:17

up for their dignity to be able to talk

13:19

to one another and to be able to talk to the

13:21

world. We are always looking for

13:23

more things that we can do. And in fact,

13:25

Just this past week, I had the opportunity

13:28

to meet with Iranian activists

13:30

who are working from outside the country to

13:32

support those who are working inside the country.

13:35

to hear their ideas for additional steps

13:37

the United States can take. We stand

13:39

unequivocally, clearly, emphatically,

13:42

and with principles and values on

13:44

the side of the Iranian protesters, the

13:47

women and citizens standing up for their

13:49

freedom and their dignity, president Biden

13:51

has spoken to this multiple times, and we

13:53

will continue to do that

13:55

day in, day out just as I am doing here on

13:57

your program now. Jake Sullivan, the

14:00

President's

14:00

National Security Advisor. Thank you for

14:02

joining me this morning.

14:03

Thank

14:05

you. And

14:06

it's one of the most consequential

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the race for governor of Arizona. The

14:13

candidates here, Republican Kerry

14:15

Lake and Democrat Katie Hobbs will

14:17

join us next. And does

14:19

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14:22

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15:43

races and talk to the candidates on both sides

15:45

who will help determine how the United

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States is run. We're gonna start in Arizona

15:50

where the battle for the governor's mansion

15:52

is neck and neck. The contest

15:54

is underway to lead there. It's

15:57

one of the most critical states in the

15:59

nation. Both Democratic

15:59

Secretary of State, Katy Hobbs, and

16:02

the Republican nominee, former television

16:04

broadcaster,

16:04

and fierce Trump ally Carrie Lake

16:07

are joining me this morning. Miss

16:09

Lake, I'm going to start with you and I want

16:11

to start on the question that

16:13

everybody says is their top issue across

16:15

the country, and that is the economy. Inflation

16:18

is still near its highest levels

16:20

in four decades. In your capital city of

16:22

Phoenix, It has the highest

16:24

inflation in the entire country,

16:27

thirteen

16:27

percent. So if you are elected governor,

16:29

what specifically would you do differently

16:32

to fix that? Well,

16:34

it's a tough issue because it originates.

16:36

The problem does out of Washington DC, but

16:39

we still have to help our citizens here in Arizona.

16:41

and the people who are suffering really the most

16:43

I've learned is, is the people who

16:46

are nearing retirement or who

16:48

are retired. I've talked to so

16:50

many of them and they say, Carrie, I

16:52

saved all my life, I did everything right,

16:54

and my retirement savings has shriveled

16:56

up by third. I've lost a third of it.

16:58

since Joe Biden took office. And so we're

17:01

going to help in any way we can. And that's why

17:03

I unveiled a plan last week

17:05

to put a half billion dollars back into

17:07

hardworking Arizona's pockets by

17:10

getting rid of our rental tax and

17:12

our tax on groceries here in Arizona.

17:15

And this is not going to harm the cities

17:17

The general fund, we're gonna help them for

17:19

the next five years with the general fund, and

17:21

we're gonna make sure that they have

17:24

enough to get by. This is a growing

17:26

Arizona. People want to move here

17:28

and our revenues are going up and we have a surplus.

17:31

We need to hand some of that back over to

17:33

the hardworking people and we will.

17:35

Let's turn to another issue facing

17:37

your state and that is the influx of migrants

17:40

at the southern border. A lot of these individuals

17:43

are seeking a asylum. They are fleeing

17:45

political violence in countries like Guatemala

17:47

and Honduras. Do you accept

17:49

that the US has a responsibility

17:52

to accept

17:52

those asylum seekers?

17:55

Well, the vast majority of the people coming

17:57

across don't really meet the

17:59

criteria for asylum.

18:01

There's a lot of fraudulent asylum, claims

18:03

that are being made. I'm really

18:05

concerned about the people of Arizona. We've

18:07

had five million people come in and we've

18:09

had million of them called God of WAYS. That

18:12

means we're not even processing them. They

18:14

want to avoid capture because they have criminal

18:16

records. We need to vet people coming into

18:18

our country. We have a great legal

18:20

immigration system, a very generous

18:22

legal immigration system, but we

18:24

can't afford to take on

18:26

the world's problems right now when

18:28

so many Americans are struggling, so

18:30

many Arizona's are struggling,

18:31

and I'm really concerned about

18:33

the number of seizures

18:35

we've had with fentanyl. coming

18:37

across the border. It is the number one killer

18:40

of young people in this country, and it's coming

18:42

through Arizona. We're no longer going to allow

18:44

the cartels to have operational

18:47

control of our border. Well, DHS says

18:49

that less than one percent of migrants encountered

18:52

at the border have a criminal record, but I want to

18:54

stick on on the question of asylum.

18:56

Those that do meet the criteria.

18:58

Should they be allowed to stay

19:01

in this country? And do you think that the

19:04

what the current governor Doug Doosey

19:06

has done sending some of the migrants to

19:08

Washington DC is the right thing to

19:10

do. Would you continue that practice? Dana,

19:13

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that figure

19:15

you just put out. We have a million Godawace.

19:17

These are people who are intentionally entering

19:20

this country mainly through the Tucson

19:22

sector, and we don't know what their

19:24

background is. There's a reason they're trying to get

19:26

in unnoticed. It's

19:28

because they have a criminal background.

19:30

and they are coming into this country. We know

19:32

that they have tracked down terrorists. They've

19:34

tracked down people wanted for murder. You

19:36

can go to the customs in border patrol

19:39

site, and you'll see we've got murderers coming

19:41

in. We have people with reps, with

19:43

a rape record. You

19:45

name it. We've got hardened criminals coming

19:47

from let me just say let me just

19:49

tell you that this stat that

19:51

I just cited comes from the Department of Homeland

19:54

Security. less than one percent of migrants.

19:56

And

19:56

I know that you're using language

19:59

like rapists and

19:59

and criminals and so forth. what

20:01

I was asking about are migrants seeking

20:04

asylum. But I wanna move on to another

20:06

really important issue, particularly

20:09

when it comes to your critical swing state of

20:11

Arizona.

20:11

And that is what happened in twenty

20:13

twenty. You called the twenty twenty election

20:15

corrupt. stolen, rotten, and

20:18

rigged, and there was no evidence

20:20

of any of that presented in court of law

20:22

or anywhere else. that

20:24

any of those things are true. So

20:27

why do you keep saying that? Well,

20:29

there's plenty of evidence we had seven hundred

20:31

and forty thousand ballots with No

20:34

chain of custody. Those ballots shouldn't have been

20:36

counted. We had a lairs of evidence

20:38

in that.

20:40

Dana, there's plenty of evidence you

20:42

can find it. Well, I can I can I'm happy to send

20:44

it to your team. The problem is the media won't

20:46

cover it. And they're We've covered

20:48

this extensively, and and what you

20:50

just said has been Oh, on one side of it. Dana.

20:53

The real issue, Dana, is

20:55

that the people don't trust

20:57

our elections. They haven't since two thousand.

20:59

I'm a reporter I've been sitting on your

21:01

side of the desk for long time. And

21:03

since two thousand, we have Americans who

21:05

don't trust our elections. In two thousand

21:08

and two thousand four. They didn't trust the elections.

21:10

In twenty sixteen, Kamala

21:12

Harris, Amy

21:13

Klobuchar,

21:14

and Hillary Clinton, everybody

21:17

on the Democrat side

21:18

said the election had problems. Miss,

21:20

like, there definitely hasn't been some of that,

21:23

but I want to say in two thousand Al

21:25

Gore conceded.

21:26

In two thousand and four, John Carey

21:28

receded. It conceded. In twenty

21:30

sixteen, Hillary Clinton conceded, and

21:32

we didn't see that in twenty twenty.

21:34

That's the difference. And so the question is,

21:36

are you undermining faith in elections

21:40

by saying that

21:42

the twenty twenty election was

21:44

stolen when there's absolutely no evidence

21:47

to support that. Dana?

21:49

In twenty eighteen, Stacey Abrams

21:51

never conceded she still hasn't. I don't

21:53

hear CNN calling her an election

21:56

denier. We have the right It's

21:58

protected with our first amendment to

22:00

question our government and to question elections.

22:03

No questions. We still have the first amendment.

22:05

Yeah.

22:05

Still have the first amendment. And when you

22:07

start seeing the media cancel people

22:09

for questioning their government, then

22:11

there that's when we have a problem. I I totally

22:14

agree about the first amendment. You and I are

22:16

benefiting for the first amendment as we

22:18

speak. So I couldn't agree with you

22:20

more on that. I wanna play I wanna

22:23

play for you something that president Trump's

22:25

own top officials. They're

22:27

the ones who investigated all of this. Again,

22:29

these are president Trump's top

22:31

officials at the justice department. and

22:34

they said under oath that they

22:36

saw no evidence of of

22:39

substantial fraud in twenty twenty. Take a

22:41

listen.

22:42

I made it

22:44

clear. I did not agree with the

22:46

idea of saying the election was stolen

22:48

and putting out this stuff, which I told the president

22:50

was bullshit. I said something to the effect

22:52

of sir, we've done dozens of investigations, hundreds

22:55

of interviews, the major allegations

22:57

are not supported by the evidence developed.

23:00

we were in a position to stay.

23:04

Our people have always looked at that, and we know

23:06

that you're getting bad information. That's

23:08

that's not correct.

23:11

So

23:11

these are president Trump's own top justice

23:13

department officials. Why

23:15

not believe them? I'm

23:17

looking at what's happening in Maricopa County. And

23:20

you know what, let's look at the twenty twenty

23:22

two election of August second, where

23:24

one hour into election

23:26

day because of my opponent, Katie

23:28

Hobbs' incompetence, we

23:31

ran out of ballots one hour into election

23:33

day and one

23:33

of our largest counties Penau County.

23:36

That did happen. And the county officials there

23:37

apologized. public and ballot. Well, I'm gonna

23:40

push back on things that didn't happen, that did

23:42

happen.

23:42

and the county and the county officials

23:45

apologize. But I wanna ask about

23:47

-- But day twenty twenty elections. --

23:49

an apology doesn't bring somebody's vote

23:52

back. All I'm saying is we need

23:54

to restore honesty and integrity

23:56

and transparency to our elections. But

23:59

isn't it? apologizing. I'm doing just

24:01

that. You're right. It doesn't bring vote BACK, BUT

24:03

AT LEAST THAT IS TRANSPARENTS AND THAT

24:05

IS TRANSPARENTS. SO

24:06

the IF

24:07

LEADERS SAY THAT YOU AND PRESIDENT

24:09

TRUMP ARE SAYING that the

24:12

election was stolen, aren't you

24:14

participating, contributing even causing

24:16

the idea of

24:19

people thinking that the election

24:21

is not safe and secure.

24:24

No. We are going to make sure elections

24:26

are safe and cure for Democrats, independents,

24:28

and Republicans alike. We wanna know that

24:30

our legal vote counted. We wanna know the

24:32

winner on election night. We don't wanna be

24:34

counting for ten days. and we want

24:36

everyone to know. But she count don't

24:38

you want your votes to count in the interim?

24:41

Do you want your votes to be counted?

24:44

No

24:44

matter how long it takes in twenty twenty

24:46

two in November. Dana.

24:47

Dana, I've been on the campaign trail for

24:49

five hundred and three days. I

24:51

talked to moms and dads who are losing

24:54

children

24:54

because of fentanyl poisoning.

24:55

I talked to retirees who can't afford

24:57

gas and food. I talked to parents

25:00

whose children are getting out of high school and can't

25:02

read. We have serious problems -- I

25:04

totally agree. -- honor. I totally agree, which

25:06

is why they Shane denial. have me on

25:08

here, Dana. You wanna have me on here and

25:10

talk twenty twenty election. And you're live

25:13

I would never bring this up ever

25:15

had you not been bringing this up consistently

25:17

on the campaign trail? Let's look forward then.

25:20

Will you access the results of the election?

25:22

in your election. Will you accept the results? talk

25:25

about the issues. I came on

25:27

here thinking we were gonna talk about the issues

25:29

facing Arizona's right now. We did. You've spent

25:31

the entire this time talking about twenty twenty.

25:33

I think you're stuck on twenty twenty. I

25:35

really do. I would I have interviewed many,

25:38

many Republicans and haven't even mentioned

25:40

it. I only did with you because this

25:42

is a big thing that you are running on. Let's

25:44

look ahead. Yeah. And let's let's talk

25:46

about the twenty twenty two election. Will you

25:48

accept the results of your election, miss

25:50

Lake? I'm

25:51

I'm running against a twice convicted

25:53

racist to cost the state taxpayers three

25:56

million dollars because of her

25:58

hatred for people of color. She paid

26:00

a woman of color in her office thirty thousand

26:03

dollars less than men doing the same job.

26:05

Last week, we learned she held a slave

26:08

auction, mock slave auction in high

26:10

school. We saw her running from a black

26:12

reporter hiding in the bathroom from

26:14

him. I'm not gonna lose this election

26:16

because I'm gonna talk to Katy Hobbs. I'm gonna

26:18

talk to Katy Hobbs right after their governor. will

26:20

never elect a racist like Katie

26:22

Hodge. My question is, will you accept

26:24

the results

26:26

of your election in November?

26:28

I'm

26:28

gonna win the election and I will accept

26:31

that result. if you lose, will you accept that?

26:34

I'm gonna win the election and I will accept

26:36

that result. Because the people will never the

26:38

people of Arizona will never support

26:40

and vote for a cow like Katie Hobbs

26:42

who won't show up on a debate stage. She's

26:44

single handedly destroying a twenty year

26:46

tradition of gubernatorial debates because

26:49

of her cowardice. So I know

26:51

already. No momentum behind

26:53

her. The polls are in our favor, and we're

26:55

gonna win this election. I'm a hundred percent confident

26:57

of that. We have the ideas common

27:00

sense ideas that people want,

27:02

and we're seeing Democrats pour

27:05

over and vote for us right now. I've I've

27:07

had many people reach out and say they're voting for

27:09

So the democrat party is faltering.

27:11

It's not the party of solutions. It's

27:13

the party that has caused the problems that we're

27:15

in there right now. I really appreciate you coming

27:17

on with me.

27:19

and answering these questions. And I'm

27:21

gonna go now to your

27:22

Democratic opponent, Katie

27:24

Hobbs, to talk

27:25

to her about some

27:26

of the things that you and I just talked about.

27:28

and here with me now is

27:29

Katie Hobbs.

27:30

We have lot to get to, but you were

27:33

secretary of state. You are now, you were in twenty

27:35

twenty. your reaction to what you just

27:37

heard

27:37

on that issue from Carrie Lake? Look,

27:40

I think anyone running for office

27:43

who continues to say there was widespread

27:45

fraud. They have they say they have evidence.

27:47

They have yet to bring any evidence forward.

27:50

You and you and I have talked about this so many times

27:52

This is absolutely disqualifying.

27:55

This is somebody who will have

27:57

a level of authority over states

27:59

elections

27:59

the ability to

28:02

sign new legislation into law,

28:04

the responsibility of certifying future

28:06

elections, and she has not only

28:08

as you heard refused to say if she'll accept

28:11

the results of this election, but

28:13

also whether or not she would certify

28:15

the twenty twenty four presidential election

28:17

if she's governor. This is disqualifying. This

28:20

is a basic core of our democracy.

28:23

And she has nothing else to run on.

28:25

And so this what she has ascended her entire

28:27

campaign around. Let's talk

28:28

about the issue of abortion.

28:30

You said last week that you

28:32

support leaving the decision between

28:34

a woman and her doctor and leaving

28:36

politicians entirely out of it. So can

28:38

you clarify, do you support any legal

28:41

limits on abortion in Arizona?

28:44

Look,

28:45

the fact is right now that we are under an

28:47

extreme fifteen week ban

28:49

that limits healthcare options for women

28:51

who need them, there's the

28:53

potential for a complete

28:56

ban right now that ban is in the courts,

28:58

but under my opponents administration

29:01

she would support a full ban. She's

29:03

called this a great law. She doesn't

29:05

support any exceptions. What do you super obsessed?

29:09

Look, when you're talking about late term

29:11

abortion, that is incredibly extremely

29:14

rare. And it's happening if

29:16

there is if that conversation

29:18

is happening, it's because there's something

29:21

that's gone incredibly wrong in the pregnancy.

29:23

And

29:24

politicians do not belong

29:26

in that decision. But what do you so or what

29:28

should the limits be? The

29:31

the decision about abortion

29:33

should be between a patient and their doctor.

29:35

So there should be no limits in the

29:38

law. It should only be decided in

29:40

the medical office.

29:44

Government making these kind of mandates

29:46

interferes with the care that doctors need

29:48

to provide to their patients. They don't belong

29:50

in these decisions.

29:53

Okay. So just to be clear,

29:55

if you

29:56

become governor, you

29:58

will push for a law that has absolutely

30:00

no limits in any

30:03

point of the pregnancy on abortion. That's your

30:05

position. That's what you would want to be the law of the land

30:07

in Arizona.

30:09

The fact is right now that we have very

30:11

limited options and that

30:13

we need to get politicians

30:16

out of the way and let doctors provide

30:18

the care that they are trained to

30:20

provide the healthcare that their patients

30:22

need. Politicians don't belong in

30:24

those decisions.

30:26

You declined to participate in a

30:28

PBS debate against Kerry Lake.

30:30

Here's what one columnist from the Arizona

30:32

Republican wrote. Lori

30:35

Roberts from the Arizona Republic.

30:37

This is what she wrote. She wrote. If Katie Hobbs

30:39

loses, remember

30:40

October twelfth, the day she ran away from

30:42

confronting

30:42

Kerry Lake. Democrats in Arizona

30:45

are known for snatching defeat from the jaws

30:47

of victory, but Hobbes refusal to

30:49

debate her opponent on Wednesday represents

30:51

a new level of political malpractice.

30:55

Why

30:55

won't you debate her?

30:57

Look, Kerry Lake has made it clear

30:59

time and time again that she's not interested

31:02

in having substantive in-depth

31:04

conversations about the issues that matter

31:06

to Arizona's. She only wants

31:08

a scenario where she can control the dialogue,

31:11

and she's refused to sit down in a

31:13

one on one lengthy conversation

31:15

to really clarify with Arizona's where

31:18

she is on the issues. She's the one

31:20

who's afraid of of talking to voters

31:22

where she's at. And we are

31:24

doing everything we can to take to

31:26

make our case directly to the voters

31:29

of Arizona. And I guarantee you I

31:31

guarantee you that when Arizona's

31:33

who are struggling, when they go to open their

31:35

ballot, when they're thinking

31:37

about the fact that they're

31:39

not sure how they're gonna put food on the table

31:41

they're rationing their insulin or they're

31:43

thinking about having to drive

31:45

their niece or their sister

31:47

or their daughter to California to get the healthcare

31:50

that they need. they're not gonna look at their

31:52

ballots. She just came and sat

31:55

down and sat down with me

31:57

and answered my questions for

31:59

a lot of minutes. Yeah.

32:02

A lot of Democrats are questioning your decision,

32:04

and they're saying, you know, it's

32:06

the wrong decision. President Biden's former

32:09

twenty twenty co chair said, I would

32:11

debate and I would want the people of Arizona

32:13

to know what my platform is. If

32:16

you think she's as dangerous as you're saying

32:18

to democracy, is it your responsibility as

32:20

a candidate who wants to run Arizona? to

32:23

show and explain who their alternative is?

32:26

That is exactly what I'm doing

32:28

right now. And there is

32:31

a lot more ability to have a

32:33

conversation with you without her

32:35

interruptions and shouting to

32:37

do that. And and, yeah,

32:39

she did sit down with you. She's refused to do

32:41

that with any legitimate reporter in

32:43

the state of Arizona and take her

32:45

case directly to the voters. She's only

32:47

interested in creating a spectacle. And

32:49

I guarantee you people that are

32:51

struggling in Arizona right now are not making

32:53

their decisions about whether

32:55

whether over whether or not there was

32:58

a debate between myself and Carrie Lake. They're gonna

33:00

make their decision based on the person

33:02

who understands their struggle and

33:04

has real solutions to try to fix

33:06

that struggle. Real quick, inflation

33:08

is near as highest level in four decades.

33:10

You heard me ask Carrie Lake about Phoenix. highest

33:13

inflation in the country. Democrats control

33:15

the house, the senate, the White House. Does

33:17

president Biden bear some responsibility for

33:20

inflation that we're seeing that are affecting

33:22

people's everyday lives. Inflation

33:25

in Arizona is being largely

33:27

driven by skyrocketing housing costs.

33:30

and we have to do more about housing.

33:32

We need to build more bottom line.

33:34

Supply is not keeping up with demand.

33:36

Prices are through the roof and people are being

33:39

priced out. of their homes. And

33:41

we're seeing a huge increase

33:43

in people who are

33:45

experiencing homelessness right now because of

33:48

that The fact is I have a real

33:50

plan to address rising costs

33:52

for Arizona's, put money back in

33:54

the in the pockets of working families,

33:56

and experts have looked at both my plans

33:58

and Cary Lakes plans. And my plan

34:00

is the plan that will actually address inflation

34:03

and put people back to work by

34:06

providing additional child care assistance

34:09

and a tax credit for folks who pursue

34:11

career and technical education. The

34:13

same expert described Carrie Lake's plan as

34:16

putting jet fuel on fire

34:18

of inflation. Katie

34:19

Hobbs, thank you so much for joining me.

34:22

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34:23

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Welcome back to the State of the Union. This

35:45

week, the president spent time and political

35:47

capital to go somewhere. Democrats thought

35:49

was pretty safely blue this year,

35:51

and that's Colorado. But two term incumbent

35:54

Democratic senator Michael Bennett now holds

35:56

a narrower than expected lead over

35:59

first time candidate. Republican businessman

36:01

Joe O'Dea, who Mitch McConnell calls the perfect

36:03

candidate for Colorado, someone who does

36:05

not spread Donald Trump's election yet

36:07

lies and has promised to tell his party know

36:10

when needed. Both O'Dea and

36:12

senator Bennett are here with us today, and

36:14

I want to begin with the Republican candidate

36:17

Joe O'Dea, and I want to start with

36:19

the economy. There is a new inflation

36:21

report this week that shows core inflation

36:24

reaching its highest point in forty

36:26

years Utility Gas is

36:28

up thirty three percent chicken,

36:31

milk, vegetables,

36:32

they're all up If

36:34

you were in the Senate, what specifically

36:36

would you do to fix the inflation

36:39

problem?

36:41

Then

36:42

thanks for having me on today. This

36:44

inflation has been caused by the one point

36:46

nine trillion dollars reckless spending

36:49

bill that got put in place by

36:51

Michael Benedict cast the deciding vote

36:53

back in March of last year.

36:55

It's caused record inflation. They've dumped over

36:57

five trillion dollars in the last year and

37:00

a half. In addition to that, the war

37:02

on energy has caused the price of

37:04

diesel to go through the ceiling, and it's still

37:06

there today. We've got a Fed

37:08

that's been asleep at the wheel, big government

37:10

in in our way. And those are just a few

37:13

of the issues that I'm gonna address when I hit you.

37:15

you're in January. How? What would you do?

37:18

Well, first off, we first off, we've got

37:20

to get our energy policy back on track.

37:22

We've got to get energy, wind, solar,

37:25

nuclear, good and clean natural

37:27

gas. We've got to get the permitting out of

37:29

the way so we can go back to work here in Colorado

37:31

and flood the market with increase

37:33

supply. It'll cause the price to

37:35

come down. Inflation will go away. That's

37:38

how you do it.

37:39

Washington is once again debating

37:42

stricter gun laws. After yet another

37:44

mass shooting in North Carolina, in your

37:46

state of Colorado, there is one

37:48

gun death every ten hours. You

37:51

said you would have voted

37:52

against a bipartisan bill

37:53

that Mitch McConnell and fourteen other Republicans

37:56

supported this summer. So do you think

37:58

any additional gun

37:59

restrictions are needed at any

38:02

level?

38:04

Look, every time we have an event,

38:06

we pass another set of laws. Democrats

38:09

here in Colorado have ignored the laws

38:11

that are on the books. As a drug dealer,

38:13

you can possess a weapon should be

38:15

a felony. They're not taking them off the streets.

38:17

We need more cops on our streets.

38:20

We need to make sure that we're enforcing

38:22

the laws that we have. We don't need a whole host

38:24

of new laws. What we need to do is

38:26

make sure we're enforcing the ones we have. Howard

38:29

Bauchner: There

38:29

is a red flag law in Colorado

38:31

that's focused on mental health. You say

38:34

Colorado's law there doesn't

38:36

work.

38:37

Why not?

38:40

Well, when I talk to the sheriffs that are ones

38:42

that are putting that law in place, and having

38:44

to implement it. They don't think

38:46

that law works. It puts them at risk.

38:49

They're not happy with that law. It needs to be

38:51

rewritten here in here in Colorado. It's

38:53

not doing the job that it's supposed to

38:55

do. We need to do more with mental

38:57

health here to get these people off the street, but

38:59

we have hundreds of laws on the books.

39:02

We need to enforce them. Well, there's more cops

39:04

on our street right now. If you talk

39:06

to chief pays in here, to the city and county of

39:08

Denver, he's the chief of police, He'll tell you

39:10

he short two hundred and fifty officers.

39:12

That's because Democrats across the

39:14

state of Colorado have defunded, demoralized

39:17

the police. Well, let's stick to guns.

39:19

Let's stick to guns. for that position.

39:21

Colorado, the red

39:23

flag law is intended in part to deal

39:25

with mental health, which is what talking about in Colorado

39:28

has approved one hundred and forty

39:30

six applications to take away

39:32

a gun from a dangerous individual

39:34

in the last two years. Doesn't

39:36

that make your state more safe?

39:40

Well, it's not. We're the third

39:42

worst state for violent crime in the United

39:44

States right now. They just deemed dead

39:47

Denver as one of the on most unsafe

39:49

cities in the nation. You go

39:51

around here and you we have record crime

39:54

everywhere. We need to enforce the

39:56

laws that we have on the books. Get these

39:58

criminals off the street.

39:59

We've got

40:01

cashless bonds that are being put

40:03

in place. We're not getting these criminal off the street that's

40:06

problem with crime here in Colorado. Let

40:07

me turn to an issue that you I

40:10

know you've talked about, and that is January sixth.

40:13

this past week, the January sixth committee

40:15

held its final hearing before the midterm

40:18

elections. You have said Donald Trump could

40:20

have done a lot more to stop January

40:22

sixty in direction to violent attack on

40:24

the capital from happening. Do you

40:26

think what happened on January sixth

40:28

should disqualify him from being

40:30

president again?

40:33

Look, I believe that the

40:36

January sixth was a black eye on the country.

40:38

I've been very vocal that I thought he should have done

40:40

more. to keep the violence

40:42

from heading towards the capital.

40:45

Anybody that was violent

40:47

at the capital or or tore something apart.

40:49

They should be held accountable. We've got processes

40:52

in place that hold people accountable, and

40:54

we need to move the country forward. So it but it's

40:57

moving Donald Trump should run again. I'm gonna

40:59

actively I'm gonna actively campaign

41:01

against Donald Trump and make sure

41:03

that we've got four or five really great Republicans

41:06

right now, Rhonda Santos, Mickey Haley,

41:08

Tim Scott, they can run and

41:10

serve for eight years. I'm gonna do my

41:12

job as a US senator to make sure

41:15

that they have good campaigns in the

41:17

primary here, so we have a good selection

41:19

of candidates for twenty twenty four.

41:22

Before

41:22

let you go, abortion is shaping up

41:24

to be a major issue in the midterms. You

41:26

support a twenty week ban in Colorado with

41:29

exceptions for rape and incest. Two years

41:31

ago, your state rejected a twenty

41:33

two week ban. Colorado currently

41:35

has no limits on abortion, so

41:38

Are you out of step with your state?

41:42

Now,

41:42

I believe for the first five months

41:45

that decision should be between a woman and

41:47

a doctor. After that, for rape

41:49

incessed, life of the mother,

41:51

medical necessity, I believe that decision should

41:53

also be between a woman and her doctor.

41:55

Michael Bennett voted for a bill

41:57

that supports abortion up

41:59

to and including the moment of birth.

42:02

I'm asking about your -- I'm asking

42:04

about your -- That position. -- that's excessive.

42:07

That's excessive. My position's

42:09

where most of American is. That's

42:11

excessive. Howard Bauchner: Okay,

42:12

Joe O'Dea. Thank you so much. I appreciate

42:15

it. I wanna go now to Michael Bennett. the

42:17

Democratic

42:17

senator from

42:18

Colorado. And he is,

42:21

of course, defending his seat against who just

42:23

heard Joe O'Dea. It has been

42:25

two months since Democrats passed. the

42:27

so called inflation reduction act, which

42:29

you call the victory for the American people. Core

42:32

inflation is still at its highest

42:34

level in four decades. And

42:36

polls shows, as you know,

42:38

that polls show, I should say, that

42:41

the economy is a top issue

42:42

for Colorado voters. So

42:44

Why isn't the inflation reduction

42:46

act

42:47

reducing inflation? Well,

42:50

because the elements of the inflation

42:52

reduction act aren't going to kick in

42:54

for a while, Dana? I mean, the

42:56

cap on drug prices for

42:58

seniors and the requirement. Finally, finally,

43:01

we overcame pharma. to have requirement

43:04

that Medicare negotiate drug prices

43:06

on behalf of the American people capping

43:08

insulin at thirty five dollars a month

43:10

mean, these are things that are going to take a while

43:13

to put in place. And you're right,

43:15

I mean, today gasoline is three

43:17

point seven zero dollars a gallon here in

43:19

Colorado, gallon and mill cost four dollars

43:22

and twenty cents. That's really tough

43:24

on people. And

43:26

think one of the things I've been trying to explained

43:29

to folks is that this is a global

43:31

problem. Canada has the same

43:33

inflation that we have. The European

43:35

-- every country in Europe has the same inflation

43:38

we have the U. K. does as well.

43:40

India has as well because we're

43:42

facing broken global supply

43:44

chains that we have to have to address

43:47

and we're facing increases

43:49

in energy prices because two years ago

43:52

oil was a twenty dollars a barrel

43:54

went to ninety three because of

43:56

the economic recovery and then

43:58

Putin invaded Ukraine.

43:59

The

44:00

fact that it is global as cold comfort

44:03

when you're pick

44:04

paying three point seven zero dollars a barrel.

44:06

I'd like to you to

44:09

react to what I'd like you to react to what Go ahead. A former

44:11

Treasury Secretary, Larry Summers,

44:12

Democrat has said,

44:15

which is that the spending that

44:17

you in part or you did vote for

44:19

over the last couple of years, particularly one point

44:22

nine trillion dollars for the American

44:24

Rescue Plan exacerbated the

44:26

inflation we're seeing now.

44:29

Right.

44:29

I mean, I know Larry Summers said that

44:31

they're economists that have said other

44:33

things. I I believe

44:36

that the bill that we passed kept

44:38

thirty thousand coloradans from

44:40

being evicted. I think that

44:42

it is funded law enforcement all over

44:44

the state. mental health services that

44:46

we desperately need. It cut childhood

44:48

poverty in half last year because of

44:50

a bill that I wrote. You know,

44:53

I'm I'm I'm concerned

44:55

that the Federal Reserve kept

44:57

their interest rates at zero for too

44:59

long and that their quantitative easing was

45:01

too aggressive. but that's looking

45:04

in the rearview mirror. What we need to do now

45:06

is fix the issue. And I think we can fix

45:08

the issue by bringing our

45:10

supply chains back to the United States

45:12

by making sure that we are benefiting

45:16

from the inflation reduction act in the sense

45:19

that we are leading the world in

45:21

transition from fossil

45:23

fuels over the next twenty five years

45:25

to a net zero energy

45:28

economy, the United States is perfectly

45:30

positioned to do that now. we are

45:32

in a place now where we

45:34

can unlike before we pass that bill,

45:37

where we can reduce costs, where we can

45:40

increase our energy independence and

45:43

our economic strength and

45:45

reduce emissions while we're doing both of those

45:47

things. Senator. I think that's an amazing place

45:49

for us to be. Senator,

45:50

your opponent,

45:51

you just heard Joe O'Dea disagreed with

45:54

the Supreme

45:54

Court's decision to overturn Roe

45:56

versus

45:56

Wade. He says Joe Biden

45:58

won legitimately

45:59

in twenty twenty. I want our viewers

46:02

to listen to an ad that a Democratic group

46:04

ran TO BOOST OJAY'S OPPONENT

46:07

IN THE GOP PRIMARY, BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT

46:09

HE WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU TO BE. TAKE A LISTEN.

46:12

Politicians O'Dea

46:14

is not who he says he is. O'Dea

46:16

says he wants to reign in government spending,

46:19

but he supports Biden's one point two

46:21

trillion dollar spending bill. And before

46:23

running for senators a Republican, O'Dea

46:25

actually supported Democrats and

46:28

even gave money to Michael Bennett.

46:31

So

46:31

again, that was an ad from a Democratic group.

46:33

How is your campaign now going to paint him

46:36

as a far right republican? Well,

46:39

I think he's painting himself that way.

46:41

I mean, it it's incredible. He

46:44

he has said that he would have voted for

46:47

three all three of Donald Trump's

46:49

supreme court nominees notwithstanding the

46:51

fact that he knows that they overturned Roe

46:54

versus Wade he opposes as

46:56

you just heard Colorado's law

46:59

codifying a woman's right to choose, I'm proud

47:01

to live in a state. It's one of the first states

47:04

to codify that law and he

47:06

opposes it. He opposes he

47:09

he voted last last time we had

47:11

an election in Colorado. HE

47:13

VOTED FOR AN AMEND A

47:15

BALLOT ISSUE THAT A

47:19

BAND ABORTION IN you

47:21

know, in band abortion and

47:23

had no exceptions for rape or

47:25

incest. He says that Donald Trump, even

47:27

though he probably knows better, BARRIS

47:29

NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT

47:31

HAPPENED ON GENEWIZED. I SHOULD SAY THAT HE

47:33

DID SUPPORT HIM AFTER twenty

47:35

two WEEKS. JUST REAL QUICK, Do

47:37

you given everything you said, was it mistake

47:39

for fellow Democrats to pop him up as

47:41

your opponent? I

47:43

don't think look, I don't think I don't

47:45

think I believe we should reform

47:48

our campaign finance system. It's a mess.

47:50

You know, I've got racist billionaire who's

47:52

funding a super packed that's

47:54

supporting his campaign right now from

47:57

Wyoming. That's not helping voters in

47:59

Colorado, but I want Dana, you to

48:01

know and I want your viewers to know how

48:03

out of touch he is with Colorado. Not

48:05

just on the abortion issue, but the

48:07

idea that he would not support

48:10

any additional gun laws, including

48:12

a law, Mitch McConnell voted

48:15

for in the US. And in your Senate, we're gonna have

48:17

to leave it there. Red flag law

48:19

and Colorado to In the interest of

48:21

fairness of time. After Colin Biden We

48:23

heard him say that. We appreciate you joining

48:25

us. Thank you so much for coming on, senator. very

48:28

much appreciate it. Thanks for having me. and

48:30

character consistency, hypocrisy scandal,

48:32

does any of it matter if you judge the question

48:35

on Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone

48:37

survey says probably no. But

48:39

do the old political rules still apply

48:41

to anyone not named Donald Trump?

48:44

Georgia just may give the answer

48:46

to the country.

48:47

Hersha

48:51

Walker spent a career

48:53

shaking off tackles in the NFL,

48:55

but he's now trying to outrun allegations

48:57

rocking his senate campaign that

48:59

the staunchly anti abortion republican

49:02

who previously backed a total ban

49:04

with no exceptions paid for a

49:06

woman to have an abortion in two thousand

49:08

nine, and then told her to have another

49:10

one two years later.

49:11

This year, the abortion

49:14

thing is false. It's alive. Walker

49:16

is rolling

49:16

out a very modern play. confirmed

49:19

denial.

49:20

Actually, it's alive. Yeah. She's lying.

49:22

Yes. She's lying. And defiance. I'm

49:24

not gonna back down because this seat is

49:26

too important to the Georgia people for

49:29

me to back down right now.

49:30

But in an interview with CNN's Manu

49:32

Raju, senate Republican leader Mitch

49:35

McConnell acknowledged that Walker

49:37

struggles bring back memories of twenty

49:39

twelve when abortion controversies

49:41

helped sink the campaigns of Republican

49:44

Todd Aiken.

49:45

If it's legitimate rape,

49:47

the female body has ways

49:49

to try to shut that whole thing down. And Richard

49:51

Murdoch. Even when life begins

49:53

in that horrible situation of rape,

49:55

THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT GOD

49:57

INTENDED TO HAPPEN. Reporter: DERAILING

49:59

THE GOP'S PATH TO THE SENATE MAJORITY.

50:02

I DOUBLED INTO WHICRIB, NEVER JOINED A Coving

50:05

or of twenty ten when Republican

50:07

Christine O'Donnell put a new spin

50:09

on the old adage if you're explaining,

50:11

I'm not a witch. You're losing. But

50:14

after

50:14

four years of Donald Trump When you're

50:16

a star, they let you do it. Very fine

50:18

people. On both sides, that call was

50:21

a great go. It's a perfect call. Do

50:24

scandals still have the same impact

50:26

they used to? I believe in the second minute.

50:28

In twenty

50:28

seventeen, Republican senate

50:31

candidate Roy Moore may have hoped

50:33

Trump's ability to defy gravity could

50:35

help him weather sexual misconduct

50:37

allegations. Get

50:39

out and vote for

50:41

Roy more but

50:42

he lost in an upset in deep

50:44

red Alabama. Across the aisle,

50:47

North Carolina Democrat, Cal Cunningham,

50:49

sought his twenty twenty senate campaign

50:52

go up in smoke after his steamy

50:54

text messages leaked amid an extra

50:56

marital affair.

50:57

And when New York

50:59

governor Andrew Cuomo tried to follow

51:01

Trump's

51:01

defiant playbook and misconduct

51:04

allegations of his own.

51:05

So I was elected by the people of the state in New

51:07

York

51:08

I'M NOT GOING TO RESIGN. HE

51:10

ULTIMATELY GIVE IN AND STEP DOWN.

51:12

Reporter:

51:14

ONE EXCEPTION, Virginia DEMOCRATIC

51:16

GOVERNOR Ralph NORTHO who in twenty nineteen

51:19

confirmed, then denied appearing

51:21

in a racist yearbook photo, but

51:23

still managed to serve

51:24

out his term. even after

51:26

a truly bizarre press conference.

51:28

Are you still able to move? Inappropriate

51:33

circumstances.

51:35

My wife says inappropriate circumstances.

51:37

Top

51:37

senate Republicans are still

51:40

campaigning for Hershel Walker despite

51:42

concerns over candidate quality.

51:44

With McConnell telling CNN, quote,

51:46

whether it's fatal or a big problem

51:49

this year, we'll find out. and

51:51

with polls showing a competitive race,

51:53

control of the senate could all come down

51:56

to weather in this polarized environment

51:58

voters are still

51:59

swayed by scandal.

52:02

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52:02

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52:04

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