0:05

in a movie critics call

0:07

cool glp gov send migrants

0:10

and a mid term message up north

0:12

the blue states as city struggle

0:14

to cope with what

0:17

do they need and is there any hope for

0:19

true reform of speak to new york city's

0:21

democratic mayor eric adams next fans

0:23

midterm message with two months

0:26

until the midterms until g o p splits

0:28

on issues from election security to

0:30

abortion do they have do they that will

0:33

win in the fall republican senator mike

0:35

rounds joins me to discuss i had

0:37

was consequential response

0:39

president biden threatens to confront russia

0:42

what they're interested in is continuing

0:44

to raise this unprovoked

0:46

war but as you frame find burial

0:48

sites filled with hundreds of victims will

0:51

the u s gives ukraine what they say

0:53

they need to win a head of the un

0:55

general assembly united nations ambassador

0:57

linda thomas greenfield will jamie

1:07

hello and a cab or in washington where the state

1:09

of our union is pointing finger silver

1:11

are broken immigration system

1:13

president biden and the first lady

1:15

or right now in london where they will join leaders

1:18

from around the world for

1:19

morrow his funeral for queen elizabeth the

1:21

second we're going to bring you today's events

1:24

in a little bit but we begin on the migrant

1:26

crisis here in the us were blue

1:28

state leaders scrambling

1:30

for care for the thousands of asylum

1:32

seekers shipped up north without warning

1:35

by republican governors the packers

1:37

and florida the roughly fifty

1:39

migrants phone from texas to martha's vineyard

1:41

this week currently being cared for

1:43

ah and they or have been moved by republican

1:46

massachusetts gov charlie baker to

1:48

a military base on cape cod where there

1:50

are better facilities what florida

1:52

governor rhonda sansa says this is just the

1:54

beginning he says he's going to use quote every penny

1:57

of the twelve million dollars allocated by his

1:59

face the relocate more migrants

2:01

out of florida as he and

2:03

texas gov greg abbott both of whom are said

2:06

to harbor presidential ambitions they

2:08

it is time for blue states to share

2:10

their birth on saturday

2:13

according to the washington post that burden

2:15

included a month old baby who

2:17

was sent from taxes and drop with

2:19

other migrants outside the vice president's

2:21

residence in washington dc the second

2:24

round of buses sent by texas as

2:26

governor and moved the vice president criticized

2:29

if a game is a political

2:32

stance that real human beings who

2:35

are fleeing harm

2:38

while the mayor's of washington dc a new york

2:40

say

2:41

they are not equipped to handle

2:43

this influx

2:45

your me now is the mayor of new york

2:47

city democrats eric adams mister

2:49

mayor thanks so much for joining us some some

2:51

more than eleven thousand asylum

2:53

seekers of pass through new york shelter system

2:55

since may including roughly

2:58

twenty five hundred busts

3:00

to new york from taxes you have

3:02

warned that new yorkers quote nearing

3:04

it's breaking points and you've talked about

3:07

maybe bringing cruise ships to temporarily

3:09

shelter these migrants what help you

3:11

need from president biden the federal government right

3:14

now that you aren't already getting and how

3:16

much longer can new york continue

3:18

without more resources

3:22

what have we should be clear that this

3:24

is a as instead a humanitarian

3:27

crisis created by human hands

3:30

and it did as if it is an all

3:32

hands on deck moments where

3:35

we're all supposed to come together and coin

3:37

a coordination during a crisis is something

3:39

that we must to togetherness the federal

3:41

governments that are that is also

3:44

or the governor of the state of texas

3:46

as well as governor governor the state of

3:48

florida are we should not be

3:51

really treated in other cities and

3:53

municipalities in a manner that we're witnessing

3:55

now as so we need a resources

3:58

for housing resources make

4:00

sure that we could properly give

4:02

people the medical care all the basic

4:04

necessities as you will give new arrivals

4:06

said intercity

4:08

how long until you run out of resources

4:10

for these migrants

4:13

although we're not we're gonna follow

4:16

the law and as well as

4:18

our moral obligation responsibilities

4:20

is going to be challenging we're experiencing

4:23

the challenges and doing so but

4:25

we're obligated by law i hear the

4:27

city of new york or as as been mentioned

4:29

over and over again of this is a

4:31

right a to sell to city and

4:33

we going to fulfill our obligations

4:35

what's your message to gov abbott and gov

4:38

to santas about the migrants they

4:40

they ship to new york and other blue

4:42

state areas

4:45

while because the message for the entire country

4:48

a visa to of governors

4:50

who are hide in up have some of the axis

4:53

that they've done around gun control which

4:55

is really a proliferation from

4:57

proliferating os country or

4:59

with guns is what they do with the women's right

5:01

to choose of you see this

5:04

is their way of cover enough would many people

5:06

have been really concerned about the erosion

5:09

of basic human rights were saying

5:11

crises cause for coordination

5:14

we receive our of i have minimal

5:16

six buses are early this morning

5:19

or over eleven thousand individuals

5:22

arms asylum seeker migrants have

5:24

come to the city already or it is

5:26

time for us to coordinates are this

5:28

humanitarian crises that all

5:30

countries facing the , struggling

5:33

to process the twenty five hundred migrants

5:35

are says you from texas and

5:37

meanwhile the el paso sector of the border

5:39

season average of seventeen hundred migrants

5:42

crossing every single day a

5:44

record one point nine million

5:46

migrants have been apprehended on the southwest border this

5:48

fiscal year alone even if you

5:50

think with these governors are doing is horrific

5:53

it seems like you agree this is a crisis

5:56

that needs more attention from the by the ministry

6:00

no i believe is a crisis

6:03

they're nice more coordination for

6:05

from all countries have

6:07

no this is one countries as is a country

6:10

has always been a

6:12

capable of handling those was seeking

6:14

to participate in american dream and

6:16

that coordination should be not only one of federal

6:18

level the state level with even cities

6:21

to cities and we resulted

6:23

el paso of mayor as

6:25

well as our team attempted to reach out

6:27

to govern abbott's are they refuse

6:30

to do any form of coin a since they think

6:32

the politics of treated people inhumane

6:35

a manner to cover up i believe what

6:37

they have done around human rights the erosion

6:39

of his for these last few years

6:41

is what they believe the best way to handle it i just

6:44

disagree

6:45

would you like to see president biden and

6:47

democrats in congress make immigration reform

6:50

the priority using their political capital

6:53

to finally fix this problem there hasn't been

6:55

as you know any major immigration reform

6:57

since the reagan years

7:01

a result in traveled

7:03

to washington d c and

7:05

a great conversations with white house as

7:07

well as with arsenal assume

7:10

us senator gillibrand and

7:12

other lawmakers or to discuss

7:14

this issue i think one of the most important

7:17

parts of that we should move forward

7:19

is to allow those

7:21

new arrivals to be able to work

7:24

they came here to pursue the american dream

7:26

i don't think it really is

7:28

logical to allow people to be here for months

7:31

without the ability to a seek

7:33

employment particularly during a time when

7:35

we are seeking employees on various

7:38

sectors in our city

7:41

i'm in there were in the middle of a worker

7:43

shortage right now as i don't need to

7:45

tell you it's a big it's a big problem

7:47

all over the country new york's one of the only

7:50

cities in the united states with a right to

7:52

shelter law meaning that anyone seeking

7:54

a place to stay must be given one

7:57

be you said this week the because of this quote new and

7:59

unforeseen react the new york's quote prior

8:01

practices must be reassessed unquote

8:04

are you considering changing new york's right

8:06

the shelter law

8:09

no not at all of when i consider

8:11

and we don't believe we should

8:13

change the right to shelter law would

8:15

nice to be looked at his

8:18

the actual practices because

8:20

i'm sure forty years ago when

8:22

this law was put into place a

8:24

no one saw it or that we will receive

8:27

our eleven thousand of eleven thousand

8:29

migrants are asylum seekers and

8:31

so is the practices in parts

8:33

of it that we want to be examined to

8:35

make sure that we can actually carry out an

8:37

influx that law was put in place

8:40

for the individuals who were

8:42

living in new york and eat it sent

8:44

me a shelter under emergency situations

8:47

this is a managerial crises and

8:49

needs to be viewed that way

8:51

where are you going to put up

8:53

all these individuals who need shelter if you

8:55

to if you're running out of space

8:59

where'd you awake or consistently pivoting

9:02

a shifting or to make sure we can

9:04

accommodate we all pretty sad twenty three

9:06

emergency shelters are we had

9:09

a smooth transition of close to fifteen

9:11

hundred students and their move into

9:13

our educational of facilities

9:16

are we're going to continue to a

9:18

shift our resources to

9:20

whatever locations we have of

9:22

from the emergency hotels or

9:24

the emergency shelter locations are

9:26

we are used to adjust and we did it during

9:28

cove it we did do a nine eleven or

9:31

this is a city or that are clearly

9:33

understands how to stand up and

9:35

operate according to the crisis that are in front

9:37

of us aren't many of the migrants

9:40

flown to martha's vineyard by for to go

9:42

around the santas the santas they were falsely

9:44

told that jobs and housing would be

9:46

waiting for them

9:47

when they arrived for any of the migrants

9:50

that have arrived in new york have

9:52

they been similarly misled

9:56

yes they have been an is really

9:58

unfortunate when you watch the made

10:00

out miss represents a

10:03

would you sending people in some cases

10:05

we had those who are corbett positive

10:07

on the buses will individuals who would

10:09

the hydrated or did have proper

10:11

food have some were even

10:13

tag or like he would take an animal

10:15

is really unfortunate or that

10:17

a country that is known for the humanitarian

10:20

access of this is a blight on our

10:22

side countries but it again it

10:24

falls in line with some of these

10:26

inhumane and some of the a changes

10:29

that you're seeing someone a basic laws of women

10:31

right to choose and of to and gun

10:33

reform in his countries coming from

10:35

particular locations are like jersey

10:38

senses and are avid so

10:40

when one wants to travel to another location

10:43

and they have forced to go to new york city

10:45

of these are the things that we have witnessed

10:47

based on our preliminary interviews and

10:49

conversations with those microsd or

10:51

seek is in asylum seekers

10:54

every year ago you tweeted quote new york city

10:56

will remain a sanctuary city under and adnan

10:58

adams administration what does your message

11:00

to migrants arriving in the u s should they

11:03

still come to new york city

11:06

what a big that they should come to any

11:08

place in the country said they desire

11:11

or their pursuit of the american dream

11:13

of you know i say it all the time is the only currency

11:15

would dream is attached to it's name

11:18

of people want to come here pursue

11:20

their dreams like our ancestors are

11:22

dead have so many years ago all

11:24

of us are we all have come from

11:26

somewhere and we should keep

11:28

that in mind when we think about these new arrivals

11:31

a now but we should do it in a coordinated

11:34

a message we should make sure that

11:36

those who are here are not breaking

11:38

any laws and we should make sure that

11:40

we treat people with the humanitarian

11:42

are ways that we are you are you see treated

11:45

people in this country

11:46

the right near grammar eric adams thank you so much

11:48

prettier time today

11:50

thank you

11:51

a republican senator

11:53

will respond to mayor adam snacks this is

11:55

party price to settle on exposing midterm

11:57

pets and coming up the un

11:59

and that are on the say to play now for russia

12:02

had of the president's major speech at the un

12:04

later this week so

12:10

legacy

12:15

the the union i'm jake tapper from and expected

12:17

read wave to who knows what's

12:19

gonna happen with just over seven weeks until election

12:22

day the republican party's trying to recalibrate it's

12:24

message so far they cannot seem

12:26

to agree on what exactly the message should be

12:28

joining us now the south dakota is

12:30

republican senator up my ground smart

12:33

centered around thanks so much for joining us

12:35

let me start with the immigration

12:37

now florida governor rhondda santas flew planes

12:40

of migrants from texas to martha's vineyard this

12:42

week without any warning to local officials

12:44

i guess at the immigration system as a mass

12:46

and as needed reform for decades by

12:49

these are people fleeing marxism

12:52

in venezuela many were a base

12:54

a falsely told there would be jobs

12:56

and housing waiting for them when they arrived in massachusetts

12:59

do you support or what abbott and

13:01

said santa and the santas are doing

13:05

they're doing their best to try to send a message

13:07

to the rest of the nation about the plight

13:09

of those individuals that are coming from south

13:12

of the border you're talking about

13:14

three point four million

13:16

people just since the start of this by

13:18

the administration has crossed

13:20

the border and are coming into southern states

13:23

what is what governor supposed to do they're

13:26

trying to send a message to the rest of the country that

13:28

this is not acceptable and other

13:30

states can't handle that type of an inflow but

13:32

let's see equivalent four times

13:34

the population of my stay or south dakota

13:37

jacobs more than that it's also

13:40

everything else is coming across the border at

13:42

the same time one hundred miles

13:44

away from the border here in south dakota penny

13:47

at the drug trafficking still affects our

13:49

state as well our native american population,

13:52

reservations have got huge

13:54

inflows of drug trafficking coming

13:56

in our state into some of the heaviest

13:59

poverty areas of

13:59

entire country so it is affecting

14:02

all of our states but the administration is not

14:04

doing anything about it so

14:06

that as i said this immigration crisis has been going

14:09

on literally for decades there hasn't been

14:11

a major immigration bill since

14:13

ronald reagan was president that

14:15

but as as i use

14:17

you did not know to and i

14:19

did earlier the show up at one

14:21

of the buses sent by a texas

14:24

gov greg abbott dropped off about fifty migrants

14:26

in front of the vice president's residence including

14:29

residence have i have month old baby

14:32

there isn't any heads up being given

14:34

to mayor adams who just heard from him

14:36

or in the individuals on martha's vineyard

14:39

martha's vineyard there trying to send a message

14:41

are trying to get the attention but there also

14:43

isn't there degree of patrolling

14:46

going on here i really

14:49

have no issue with using human

14:51

beings are one month old little kids

14:53

to, to make a political like this

14:57

you

14:57

have to put it in perspective of what's happening

14:59

at the southern border right now this is every

15:01

single day thousands

15:03

of individuals coming across with babies

15:06

they're coming into those states those governors

15:08

are facing that not just at the terms

15:11

of fifty of them they're talking about hundreds

15:13

of them if not thousands per day and

15:15

soul a i mean do any of us

15:18

like the situation that we're in and absolutely

15:20

not a matter of fact i would suspect

15:22

that the individuals in the southern states that

15:24

are trying to find a way to get the attention

15:26

of the administration would love to have other

15:29

alternatives to than six

15:31

hundred and six days since joe biden took

15:33

office and this problem

15:36

has done nothing except continue to develop

15:38

the for the national problem and yet

15:40

these governors on along the southern borders

15:42

are the ones that are faced with trying to us to

15:45

address it right and it's not just fifty

15:47

of these individuals coming across as

15:49

thousand and it's on a daily basis

15:51

right of course the immigration

15:53

laws in this country do allow people to come to

15:55

this country to seek asylum

15:58

or it seems to me that that

15:59

the larger solution that needs to happen

16:02

here and i don't know that you would disagree

16:04

the comprehensive immigration bill

16:06

that would include border security

16:09

ah and then perhaps in order

16:11

for there to be a compromise a pathway to citizenship

16:14

for people have been here for decades in

16:16

a more than twenty years i've been in

16:18

this town i've seen people like president george

16:20

w bush and sen lindsey graham and sen

16:22

marco rubio trying to get immigration

16:25

reform done working with democrats every

16:27

time they were defeated by house republicans

16:30

who wouldn't go along with any sort of compromise

16:32

would you support restarting bipartisan

16:35

negotiations to trying to try

16:37

to finally fix this broken immigration

16:39

says

16:42

those discussions are ongoing in the united

16:44

states senate and fact the last time

16:46

that there was a hard push was

16:49

in twenty seventeen myself and

16:51

sen angus king or cosponsor

16:53

the measure together on behalf of a bipartisan

16:55

group we have fifty four votes on

16:57

the senate at that time and that included

17:00

addressing the folks remember roger

17:02

to no fault of the wrong the dreamers we

17:04

address chain migration are we addressed

17:06

a pathway to citizenship over an extended

17:09

period of years we thought we had a pretty

17:11

good approach nothing has happened

17:13

during this administration us

17:15

would we liked to step forward again and and

17:17

try approach and approach again absolutely

17:19

do we have to address it he asked the

17:22

we have to have a border security

17:25

before anything else can happen we've got to be

17:27

able to defend that border we've gotta be able to make a border

17:30

that actually works otherwise why should

17:32

people pay any attention to the laws that we've got

17:34

and what good would it do to reform i'm if

17:36

we're not going to enforce them

17:37

what's your new abortion because this week your republican

17:40

colleagues center lindsey graham introduced a

17:42

bill that would ban abortion

17:44

nationwide after fifteen weeks do you

17:46

support the bill

17:50

no i think right now we should allow the

17:52

states to explore the different possibilities

17:54

about the appropriate way ah here

17:56

in south dakota with we have one which

17:58

is actually signed into law

18:01

when when i was governor or back

18:03

in two thousand and five two thousand and six i

18:05

think the individual states will come up with a multiple

18:08

or a whole lot of different ideas about

18:10

how to appropriately gus are

18:13

abortion in general and then i

18:15

think there will be a consensus over a period of years

18:18

of but at this point the have congress

18:20

that back canada tell all of the states that we

18:22

know better than them how to handle this is probably

18:24

not the right direction to go we actually

18:26

looked at far wouldn't be for the last

18:29

decision we actually looked as a group of us ads

18:31

are trying to ban any abortion past

18:33

twenty weeks we weren't successful at that

18:35

time i don't think any proposal

18:38

today would be successful in the house

18:40

and senate i think a better approach probably

18:43

will be to allow the states to work through

18:45

this and a fine the appropriate language

18:47

on a state by state basis and find

18:49

that common ground fab after that

18:52

maybe congress steps and again but at this

18:54

point i think the states are in better shape

18:56

to explore and to find the right direction

18:58

other state by state basis you're on the us

19:00

senate foreign relations committee the top republican

19:03

on the house intelligence committee or congress

19:05

and my turner of ohio told me that he does

19:07

not think that the us

19:09

should swap are convicted

19:11

russian arms dealer in exchange for

19:13

jailed americans in russia paul wheel

19:15

and and brittney griner he thinks

19:17

that of victor buddhist just too dangerous

19:19

or do you agree or do you think the u s should

19:22

be willing to make the swap

19:25

i'm on the armed services committee to i'm also on

19:27

the foreign relations committee it's we have

19:29

not had a classified discussion about

19:32

what the impact would be i know

19:34

that this is up to the president to make up his mind

19:36

and that we probably won't have a say in it from

19:38

going to withhold judgment on at this point

19:42

of i don't mind being critical of the administration

19:44

but administration don't want to be critical of the administration the administration

19:46

decision making process without having all the facts

19:48

in front of me

19:49

right senator my grounds of south dakota

19:51

the deceased or thank you so much for joining us today thank

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21:48

linda thomas greenfield madam ambassador thanks

21:50

for joining us you her president biden

21:53

their warning of a quote consequential

21:55

us response the a potent

21:57

uses tactical nuclear or chemical weapons

21:59

in ukraine

22:00

what might be consequential response

22:03

look like in have you seen any evidence that

22:05

goodness considering taking such drastic

22:08

action or in up in response

22:10

to that russia's military setbacks

22:14

the first jake thank you so much i'm

22:16

delighted to be here and the president

22:19

was very clear that he's not going to

22:21

find that for us us in

22:23

advance but we have also been

22:26

absolutely clear in our commitment

22:28

to ukraine

22:29

to giving them what they will need

22:31

to defend themselves and

22:33

we will do it over the long term

22:35

until russia makes

22:37

the important decision that they need

22:39

to make to withdraw their troops from

22:42

ukraine and stop this unprovoked

22:44

attack on their neighbor

22:46

is it so consequential though that the united

22:49

states citizens are he should have

22:51

an idea about what a response might

22:53

be since it might actually we don't

22:55

want things to escalate obviously so that the united

22:57

states and russia are engaged in a direct one on

22:59

one war

23:02

while the president has also been clear on the fact

23:04

that the you

23:05

will not put troops on the ground

23:07

in ukraine but we will give the ukrainians

23:10

what they need to defend themselves

23:12

we woke rally the world we will

23:15

rally europe

23:16

around supporting the ukrainian so that

23:18

they are able to push

23:20

that on russia's aggression

23:22

though in recent days ukrainian officials report

23:25

that they found at least four hundred forty unmarked

23:27

graves the newly recaptured city

23:29

of his yeah as well as more than ten

23:31

rooms apparently used by the russians

23:33

to torture people throughout the harkey region that

23:36

the united states leave war crimes were

23:38

committed in his him and will you

23:40

confront russia over these atrocities

23:43

when the security council meets on ukraine later this

23:45

week

23:47

we have confronted rusher from day

23:50

one from the first day

23:52

this attack with confronted them with

23:54

condemn them with isolated

23:57

them at the security council and that

23:59

will continue

23:59

again until they made the decision

24:02

pull their troops out

24:04

as for whether these are war crimes

24:06

or not we think war crimes being committed

24:09

a legal process has to take

24:11

place regarding that but the

24:13

reflect

24:14

there's of those grace sides will

24:16

always be

24:17

in our minds as we look

24:19

at what is happening in ukraine

24:21

right now and they should expect that

24:24

it will not be business as usual when they

24:26

arrive in new york on

24:28

morrow they will be isolated

24:30

they will be condemned in the security council

24:32

as well as more broadly in the general

24:34

assembly by all accounts ukraine's counter

24:37

offensive recently has been an astonishing success

24:39

leaving russian forces reeling and fleeing

24:42

greene says they still need longer

24:44

range missile systems fighter jets

24:46

modern tanks in order to capitalize

24:49

on this momentum so far the by the administration

24:51

has resisted those requests why not

24:53

meet the moment and take advantage

24:55

of this pivotal time where the russians are on the

24:57

run

25:00

we have been in regular consultations

25:02

with ukraine's about what's they

25:05

need to defend themselves are you

25:07

know we've given them over fifteen

25:09

billion dollars in support

25:12

they have succeeded in pushing the russians

25:14

back their commitment to defending

25:17

their country is just unparalleled

25:20

and we have been besides

25:22

them

25:22

the them support that they need but also

25:25

bringing others into ah

25:27

into this the circle of support

25:29

our allies and friends of of ukraine

25:32

you said united nations faces a crisis

25:34

of confidence

25:35

that the un security council need to reform

25:38

in order to remain a credible body and

25:40

the twenty first century how is any meaningful

25:42

reform possible if russia

25:45

is allowed to remain a permanent

25:47

member of the un security council while conducting

25:49

an illegal war openly committing

25:52

war crimes forcibly deporting hundreds

25:54

of thousands of ukrainians into russian

25:56

territory

25:59

this is

25:59

why we do need un reform

26:02

and i gave a speech in san francisco

26:05

or i have about a week ago where i

26:07

outline what this kind

26:09

of reform would look like we're committed

26:12

to finding a way forward to

26:14

make the un fit for purpose

26:17

for this century and currently

26:20

there is an attack on the un then

26:22

there's an attack on the tried earth and that's by

26:24

a permanent member of the security council

26:26

i can't change the fact that russia is

26:28

a permanent member of the security council but

26:31

i can continue the efforts that

26:33

we have

26:33

seated at and that's isolating

26:35

them condemning them and making

26:37

sure that they know and understand

26:40

it's not business as usual and that's not

26:42

just from us they're beginning to hear

26:45

that from their friends as well as i

26:47

understand president she's made

26:49

clear to proven in their meeting and you end

26:51

with pakistan this way

26:53

that's not my presidency because it's not

26:55

just russia china forbes

26:57

such influence over the united nations

26:59

that the united nations buildings

27:02

around the world don't even

27:04

allow

27:05

hors two individuals who have

27:07

taiwanese passports not

27:09

even acknowledged as human beings

27:12

they can't go on a private tour of the

27:14

us

27:15

how can the united nations be a force for self

27:18

determination and freedom if it

27:20

allows dictators and human rights abusers

27:22

in the building up but not the citizens

27:25

of a flourishing democracy such as taiwan

27:29

we believe that taiwan should

27:32

be given

27:33

the abilities

27:35

to do what

27:36

ever other non state

27:39

entity

27:39

can do in the united nations

27:41

and one of those has to be able to

27:44

come into our the un

27:46

visit the building to participate

27:49

in the activities that

27:51

not require them

27:53

the be a nation state and we

27:55

have pushed that effort and we're fighting

27:57

against these efforts that taken

27:59

the new york and the rest of the world to

28:02

support the people of you for the people

28:04

of taiwan or last the thank you so much

28:06

i'm an ambassador really appreciate your time today

28:10

thank you i'm coming

28:13

up a velociraptor and the napoleon

28:15

of mara lago fresh insights into

28:17

former president trump then and now susan glasses

28:19

here with a preview of her brand new book that

28:21

snacks

28:32

would you like to be subject to why they would be inappropriate

28:35

and numbers and i've i've looked i could be cured

28:37

and say well i don't want to left ,

28:39

be totally of roberts has a like was

28:42

is a fine person i like my

28:44

as a mice committed political

28:46

suicide suicide not

28:48

taking votes as he knew were

28:52

wrong a

28:55

whole lot of nonsense and they're stuck leopard

28:57

welcome back to civil union that was president trump

28:59

in an interview

29:00

them are lago saying why he wouldn't

29:02

or couldn't pick my pants as a running mate wordy

29:04

to run for president again that interview was

29:07

report with reporter susan glasser and peter

29:09

baker authors of the brand new book that

29:11

divider trump in the white house

29:13

two thousand seventeen two thousand and twenty one susan

29:15

glasser and our panel join

29:18

, now so that that's a pretty shocking

29:20

exchange because for saw pants is

29:23

not in charge of taking votes ah

29:25

and pence did not do anything wrong

29:28

he did what the constitution said he should

29:30

do what was it like being

29:32

it like lago with proper were you surprised

29:34

by his answer at all

29:35

well your point about the word salad

29:37

i you know we spent three hours over

29:40

the more than three hours over the course of two

29:42

interviews at mara lago trying

29:44

to interview the former president

29:46

and i don't think there was a single sentence you

29:48

know with a now and and urban a period

29:51

attached to it you know in there were

29:53

a lot of rants about the rigged election by

29:56

the bottom line with that you know trump is

29:58

still very focused

29:59

then after leaving office on the finding

30:02

everything around personal loyalty we were

30:04

in the famous ah now famous

30:06

room where the f b i searched her took place

30:09

private office and he just surrounded himself

30:11

with reminder think you know of his past

30:14

glory he was like napoleon an

30:16

elbow but needs you know banquet hall

30:18

greater than also you you work for trump

30:21

is this the same problem for you

30:23

work for has gotten worse like

30:25

what do you think what's your take

30:27

if kind of all the same on but at

30:29

least when he was still surrounded by the trappings of power

30:31

there's a certain cachet that comes with as i think

30:33

he's and then we will thing is having a very hard

30:36

time obviously accepting his last

30:38

i saw go back and forth that can make a shared

30:40

his he told me after he lost that he knew he

30:42

lost the now he's gonna different directions but

30:44

the mike pence com at that was very interesting

30:47

as there was no one a more

30:49

loyal to donald trump the entirety of his presidency

30:52

but also i would argue beneficial

30:54

to when he was the man it was mitch mcconnell

30:56

and mike pence they thought tax cuts through

30:58

last minute the tax cuts and jobs act

31:01

with hanging by a slide susan collins

31:03

was almost gonna be a know i just like was

31:05

almost can be a know and it was them twisting arms

31:07

until late at night you smc every

31:09

major achievement that donald trump still

31:12

tout mike pence had a huge

31:14

role in and frankly many of them donaldson didn't

31:16

in fact the number capacity

31:18

to recognize that but i thought that was that was

31:20

made

31:20

what is interesting to me about gonna let me read

31:23

this passage from the book the jumped out at me quote

31:26

the painful fact is that those who stopped

31:28

trump from committing this or that outrage also

31:30

helped him learn how better to

31:32

get what he wanted the next senior

31:35

national security official who regularly observe

31:37

trump in the oval office compared him to

31:39

the velociraptors in the movie jurassic

31:41

park that proved capable of learning

31:43

while hunting they're praying making

31:46

them infinitely more dangerous

31:48

it's i should note not the first time i've heard a trumpet

31:51

comparing donald trump to a velociraptor learning

31:54

how to commit mayhem

31:56

the next time determine up for this for this real

31:58

threat to the country and

31:59

the democracy and yeah of course it as i mean

32:02

i i check or because thinking of trump as a velociraptor

32:04

is funny on the surface but when you dig deeper

32:06

it is deeply problematic that

32:09

the former present united states still

32:11

insist that he won the election is punishing

32:13

everyone who did their jobs by

32:15

certified me election is talking

32:17

about running again and twenty twenty four when

32:19

we reading the house that as a somebody who's

32:21

undermining our democracy so yeah

32:24

it's it's terrifying that she could

32:26

possibly be getting on oh no i want

32:28

to use more smarter but i'm

32:30

more strategic about how he wields

32:32

his

32:33

the evil

32:35

well i think he's the most likely person to be the republican

32:37

nominee and the least likely person

32:39

to defeat joe biden or whatever other democrats

32:42

in that getting nominated and twenty twenty four when i

32:44

think republicans ought to think

32:46

hard about whether we want to lose another

32:48

national election

32:50

by related gating twenty twenty

32:52

and

32:53

no by bi re plunging ourselves back

32:55

into this chaos i think they're other people who

32:57

give you what you want

32:59

without giving us the probability

33:01

of another national last so

33:03

i'm to of those potential twenty twenty four

33:05

hour nominees are candidates are

33:08

are the governor of texas greg abbott

33:10

and the governor of florida rhonda santa some

33:12

the bill might run for president

33:14

are both of them responsible for

33:17

various shipping of my

33:19

of migrants from texas two

33:21

planes carrying fifty migrants center martha's vineyard

33:24

wednesday night by the santas they since been

33:26

moved to joint base cape cod i want you to take

33:28

a listen to what a local reverend

33:30

and martha's vineyard hold me and and about

33:32

these migrants being transported there

33:34

we decided almost

33:36

immediately that we would take the mean no matter what

33:38

they had nowhere to go

33:40

and and the whole island community of martha's

33:43

vineyard really pretty much turned out at

33:45

whatever political strike they were to

33:48

help these people who'd been so traumatized

33:50

that's where i'm most all of us in america right

33:53

now should be paying our attention

33:56

it i think one of the the

33:58

points that the santas an avid we're trying to make

34:00

with the study even if you don't like it was oh

34:03

look these people are going to like all this influx of

34:05

migrants coming into martha's vineyard they're

34:07

not and martha's vineyard anymore because the governor charlie

34:09

baker's movement the cape cod but i don't

34:11

know that they got the response that won it in terms

34:14

of the ball revolt in a being revoked

34:16

revolted

34:17

that know that right obviously you saw lots of pictures

34:19

of islanders coming out and are volunteering

34:22

and you know trying to help but you know people who had

34:24

been used as as pawns in a sort

34:26

of grotesque to fix a very trump

34:28

in political stunt right to maintain

34:30

i feel like what we're seeing is

34:33

the influence in the takeover of

34:35

trump is i'm in the republican party

34:37

in a d the carnival barker turned

34:40

bad in a rhonda santas

34:42

ah ito was

34:44

a serious politician and

34:46

and now he's using people as pawns

34:49

in this way and in this think that the a whether

34:51

it's donald trump is the nominee and twenty

34:53

twenty four or another republican

34:56

they're very likely to be operating in a world

34:58

where donald trump has showed them donald path

35:01

of ah demeaning human beings

35:03

have it using the immigration

35:05

issue particular issue immigration think these republican governor

35:08

see that as part of the armor

35:11

that donald trump creative for himself and politics

35:14

along with a on the island

35:16

twenty four hours before the military came

35:18

and rounded them up and took him away look i'm

35:20

glad the people of martha's vineyard work charitable

35:22

in their day with the migrants i do think it was your

35:24

thing they took a hundred twenty five national guardsmen to

35:26

take your fifty people

35:28

do the math on texas new the map

35:30

on arizona the point here wasn't to try to trick

35:32

the people of martha's vineyard

35:34

the point here was to make a larger point

35:36

about burden sharing

35:38

the crisis at the border

35:39

the burden being fully borne by

35:42

texas arizona and then area

35:44

those towns banner that was the point

35:47

and i'm not typically a fan of government by

35:49

trolling but you know i feel trolled every

35:51

day when i see the white house press secretary

35:53

and this vice president and the president's tell

35:56

the american people all the borders secures

35:58

there is no problem that's the point

36:00

and they made it and we're talking about

36:03

mission accomplished on it you know what you can

36:05

make a point about border security

36:07

we can have a conversation about comprehensive

36:09

immigration reform and adding more money

36:12

to to sets a sport border states using

36:15

people as political policies

36:17

are people who are fleeing communism i thought

36:19

the republican party was one that was against communism

36:22

to ship them to a place that

36:24

doesn't have the facilities to take care of them

36:27

is hop you you say blithely overly for

36:29

advice martha's vineyard they don't have the capacity

36:31

to do that so the republican governor of massachusetts

36:34

did the right thing and system someplace where they actually

36:37

had solicited terrorism this

36:39

is like the is the culmination

36:41

of mega extremism taking over this

36:43

parties and i get emotional want to talk

36:45

about books i remember when we're

36:47

children

36:48

babies

36:49

the parents at the border with no care

36:51

about reigniting them and this is just what that

36:53

is to and let's not forget these migrants worth

36:56

lie to they were misled they thought

36:58

they were going someplace else and they were

37:00

when appointments across the country

37:02

day well it'll do setting them

37:04

up for failure and here's the thing we

37:06

have a crisis at the border humanitarian

37:09

national security full stop by for as a comma

37:11

harris said on another network last week the border

37:13

secure it's not el paso right now has over

37:15

a thousand migrants were living in squalid

37:18

conditions border states have borne

37:20

the brunt of this challenge that is not

37:22

being address of thing exacerbated by the by

37:24

the administration's policies that said

37:26

i disagree with this stuff on on almost

37:28

every level we know that the by

37:30

demonstration is relocating people within

37:32

the country on migrants within the country to

37:35

take some of the strain authors the

37:37

border safe but we cannot use

37:39

human beings as pawns if this was a serious

37:42

effort by gov the fantasy would have called gov

37:44

charlie baker and said i need all

37:46

resources available we need to house these people

37:48

with it has set up of you know places where they can

37:50

process for asylum claims they can meet with your

37:53

this was meant purely for twitter

37:55

into drive the conversation in immigration

37:57

for decades has been the third rail of american

37:59

politics

37:59

we're having the same carthage the decade of on

38:02

capitol hill

38:03

the west don't want to solve it the right doesn't want to solve

38:05

that we just want to fight with each other on it and you

38:07

know we're talking about it maybe that's a good

38:09

thing but i don't think that shipping people

38:12

what i would just disagree with that

38:14

notion that the bluff doesn't want to solve it we had

38:16

a comprehensive immigration bill on the

38:18

table bipartisan support would

38:20

have passed the house it was john beta

38:23

the republican it wanted to keep it as a political

38:25

tool we could have had emigrated from with

38:27

increased security at the because there has to be some

38:29

acknowledgement that the language the left

38:32

in the language of the president the vice president and

38:34

the democratic party part of the problem

38:37

the migrants are coming here because they believe the

38:39

border is open so until

38:41

this administration stops using

38:43

that language that caused them to believe that and

38:46

causes this influx and get serious about

38:48

supporting the border patrol and border security

38:50

it's going to continue to be a crisis

38:53

level

38:53

the i do think that the politicization

38:56

a permanent use of this is a political to

38:58

i remember a conversation with a senior bush

39:01

administration official who told me the

39:03

greatest mistakes of george w

39:05

bush his second term was not coming out

39:07

of that victory and making an immigration

39:09

deal because he was a republican and there were republicans

39:12

and democrats he wanted to get the sun

39:13

it out he did try to dry

39:16

up we'll talk more about this and future shows i'm

39:18

sure thanks everybody for being here did donald from

39:20

break the law in the january searched

39:22

insurrection i put that question directly to republican

39:25

congressman january six two really vice chair liz

39:27

cheney for answer next

39:35

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whether like the practice get someone

40:40

soul editorial cartoonist

40:42

the brodner has been trying to do just

40:44

that every day for years the pandemic

40:46

compelled the artist to draw hundreds

40:49

and hundreds of images of america as

40:51

kobe pain and suffering

40:53

and of the politicians who

40:55

push democracy the brain

40:57

see so many americans

41:00

when the pandemic started the world's shut

41:02

down but that's when illustrator

41:04

and editorial caricature steve brodner

41:07

picked up his pen for every day you'd see

41:09

in the paper all of these names

41:11

and these faces so i salute let me to awesome

41:14

and how did you decide because i was literally thousands

41:16

of people dying every day had any know side which

41:18

story to tell at first it was just

41:21

whatever was giving me the strongest of

41:23

kind of emotional reactions brodner

41:26

was moved by the stories of cove it's

41:28

first victims and the harrowing images

41:30

he could not get out of his head such

41:32

as a young doctor in alabama

41:34

he's treating young people yeah and

41:37

they're coming into her hospital and

41:39

there and on vaccinate that he says when

41:41

lessons they do before their intubated

41:44

which is often my the last things that they would

41:46

do to somebody before they died he

41:48

is beg me for the vaccine hold

41:51

her hand and tell them that i'm sorry but it's too late

41:53

she had to do this and many many times

41:56

every day brodner pick a person

41:58

or an image and drew

42:00

for hundreds of days and he still drawing

42:02

his work has now been published altogether and a new

42:04

book

42:05

living and dying in america

42:08

here's one on page three

42:10

it's a president trump yelling at

42:12

a bunch of graves how can you do this to

42:14

me that's that's may be my favorite cartoon

42:17

as a cartoon on the whole book because

42:19

it's all about his victimhood

42:22

nobody's a bigger victim then he is

42:24

you doubly don't like him but you doesn't like drawing

42:27

him as enjoyable for you to hook

42:29

, up is a lot of great feature is is he is it's

42:31

enjoyable and a way in which

42:34

you feel that you have to address

42:36

something that's gone wrong

42:38

with the world you know he was

42:40

present at his face he was to take

42:42

care of people who supposed

42:44

to look after his people and

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he looked after one person

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that's where our troubles began

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roger also drew the black lives matter

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movement ignited by the violent deaths

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of george floyd brianna taylor and so

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many more and his work took on

43:01

an even darker feel politically

43:03

after the attack on the us capitol on january

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six somebody , interviewed

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a few times been my honor an interview on his dc

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capitol police sergeant accurately naga now

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now have her so well here in the same

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as you swing your join your join is

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a thing that happens if it's if it's it's well

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you're getting into the sole a little bit sole

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getting into in

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i just try to capture the characters be

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trying to capture the feeling the person

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has what is the person

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going through how does

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he contours of the face give

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you a t into what's

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going on in the internal life of

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the of the person you know it's

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hard not to read

43:47

this book and labels have to and

43:49

to have lived through it all continue

43:51

to feel home for some

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reason to express

43:56

outrage about what's happening

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is because you love your

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the country and you want to improve things

44:02

you believe in all the cards phyllis

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have this kind of crazy ideas that

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if you just do the perfect picture you do the

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right image settled scenes

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were world

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graduation says he brought on his new book the

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night in a brand new investigation

44:17

into the attack on the us capitol you'll hear

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from t january six witnesses

44:22

and the select committees vice chair liz cheney

44:24

the biggest question after months

44:26

of investigation and testimony evidence does

44:29

to any believe donald trump broke the law

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do you think

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as a personal opinion and

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an attorney that their criminal

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offenses

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well i ah i want to be careful

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because i am the device or the committee because

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the committee itself has to the information's

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about criminal referrals in

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it those are decisions that the committee

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will make i , clearly

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what we've laid out though though

44:57

that that to form present i'd present

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was involved in efforts at

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that we're not only unconstitutional

45:04

arm but also violated the law

45:07

that can the committee prove it

45:10

tune in tonight my new seen in special

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report american to the

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january six investigation the night

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at nine pm eastern only here on cnn

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