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I Accept that is because we're here today. It's Big Ten.

2:01

Tulsi Gabbard I am. If you

2:03

grew, this is because you've noticed

2:05

that the categories of left and

2:08

right are atrophying. cited. At.

2:10

Fighting and breaking down a reason

2:12

for that causes because they were

2:14

not under guided by any moral

2:16

principles bought by expedience. The probe

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these plates peice mutate in order

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to fulfill particular agenda fact as

2:23

I'll buy certain financial interest. global

2:25

financial interests and cultures have Dominion

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South's postgame. Other things: an interesting

2:30

cigar who has aspects of both

2:32

of those pies and her personal

2:34

social, political and economic. The Police

2:36

will be you're talking to her

2:39

in a moment. After her, that's

2:41

my German Shepherd bear he's joined as

2:43

as he frequently doesn't He didn't allow

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him in his size outside barking at

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mates with some dreadful. Expectation.

2:50

And expectation I sometimes cannot fulfill. some

2:52

of the will not be very excited

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to poop so she by we did

2:57

a poll earlier asking you what you'd

2:59

most like me to ask are no

3:01

results of our love You wanna talk

3:03

about censorship? I suppose you prep saw

3:05

her on Thera Rogan. Digits were some

3:07

so said that the Tic Pop legislation

3:09

has been signed away by by more

3:11

ultimately be used as a utensils a

3:13

further censor free speech much the same

3:15

weight as we've seen in precincts across

3:17

the walls. likely just maybe to rather.

3:19

Whr treatments at some length.

3:23

Allowances I guys who talk a little bit

3:25

about the Anti Semitism bill and the problems

3:27

incumbent within it from a variety of perspectives.

3:29

If he watches on you tube will be

3:31

with you for ten minutes, them within it's

3:34

over by the anti Semitism bills, then we're

3:36

gonna bring on how he got out. Are

3:38

we gonna do our best? Have a conversation

3:40

with Tulsi human to human about the state,

3:42

the way in a war is required for

3:45

us to create the kind of changes. I

3:47

believe that all of us are beginning to

3:49

sense ah, necessary Oscar about Gaza and said

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zip places that person, this God. Nine that

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says as of offices of an eyepiece, a

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webcam and for me redolent of a timer

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as a young man and us. Plus,

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drug addict I lived on that

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epicurean. I'll looking for pleasure in

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all the wrong place is hopelessly

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in love with Amanda. How got

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a rope or less costs? Demented.

4:12

In. My pursuit of i don't it

4:14

enlightenment and revelry possible. Let's have

4:16

a little chat about waiter and

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gals. Frame in itself was eyebrow

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focus bucks an hour Woody Allen

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films. Are frame or I

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could see don't run for me man

4:27

don't try and hold me back. I

4:29

can exist in a variety of contexts

4:31

like Tulsi Gabbard who cannot exist on

4:33

I've on the left or right Melissa

4:36

one for I remember than those with

4:38

them was crazy days Baby crazy days

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in dates that have a look I'm

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from before you the first by the

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course We love we love you and

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we love the we have access to

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this puzzlement these we're grateful to. Whoever

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it was the create that platform even if

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it was a deep sky operation. Designs from

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the get go to capture information which remain

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have been will look into the so thing

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we should look into the nets. We love

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the A but we can't remain legit. Me

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on up legitimately sees me on a platform

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for his part of a media conglomerate known

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as the Trusted News Initiative that have an

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agenda. For example when you see can say

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the tax and smears on media figures. Rudeness

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I say alternative media figures may Alex

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Jones vivid a whole bunch from Joe

5:23

Rogan Remember either make ten o'clock remember

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when you in a room a place

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I'm terrible times Gemma say one three

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seven and transit projects on usually cold

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as I was. So does this have

5:34

a look at Trump who is potentially

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are facing imprisonments if he doesn't feel

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quite one that of his system since

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Donald Trump in as totally anti chamber

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how you like was at the same

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design that low barrier who's is disgusting

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his descendants. Of a very echo he

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in they're calling paid I want to

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see the dog Ill see the dogs

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say the dogs are the summer locker

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are Trump tonight former president from seizing

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a new threat of the seal type.

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The most money trial after his

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chance violation of the judges gag

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order. To

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judge directly addressing the possibility of

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putting Mr. Trump's behind bars over

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future violations, the magnitude of such

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a decision is not lost on

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me. You are the former President

6:18

of the United States. Impossibly, the

6:21

next president is well adding as

6:23

much as I do not want

6:25

to impose a jail thing since

6:27

I will if necessary and appropriate

6:29

of nobody is above the law.

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The law is a new day

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as he now it is the

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principal omnipotence li under bird it

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it is alleged as soon as

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he of god gained by aint

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breathed into being by legal minds

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is extraordinary has never goes you

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have to I suppose question whether

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or not you believe Trump's trials

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all about the pursuit of justice

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and were in from where is

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the principal derived whose moral authority

6:56

whose judiciary and not a potent

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attempt to attacked political. Opponents

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you'll notice the Us are of

7:03

tie is being strong. Be censored.

7:05

Donald Trump is being attacked by

7:07

using the techniques and tools of

7:09

warfare. And you'll see continually on

7:11

Legacy. Media, various people, pundits and

7:13

the like, often with former ties

7:15

to the establishment, the White House,

7:17

the Defense industry. So the only

7:20

way to ensure democracy I'm in

7:22

Missouri an oxymoron. There were any

7:24

be only way to ensure the

7:26

Mccarthy what you got there is

7:28

a part of. the only way

7:30

to ensure democracy is by voting

7:32

for voting for. Joe Biden,

7:34

a curiously hollowed out individual a

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living, sent him a projection presumably

7:39

of a conglomerate of interests. Would

7:41

you assume that? that? Would you

7:43

assume that's let me know in

7:45

the chat. you love Tulsi coming

7:47

up soon, but we got the

7:49

anti Semitism bill before that. The

8:00

Judge and finding Mister Trump an

8:02

additional one thousand dollars for complaining

8:04

about the jury C D Blue

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Manhattan saying it's ninety five percent

8:08

Democrats Judge saying the former presidents

8:11

wrongfully called into question the integrity

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of the jury. Roller.

8:15

You are then is interesting isn't it

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to make those kind of inquiries about

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school, contempt of court or utensils? You

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mean a tool says frank big? That's

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right, but that is a synonym for

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that and I see what you're doing.

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You're making ice, making a joke which

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I think is good or the V

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P says goes on. Humans was thousand

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and gabbard about. I see a lot

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of Euroscience month dates V P Rebar

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remember you lot were all about device.

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A. Little while ago and then

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you're about our have time for

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a while you capricious maniacs. This

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have a look at this story

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about the it beeps possible the

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seats contenders converging. This weekend at

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a donor's conference in Morrow lot else

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at least seven contenders illness or less

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according to Trump World sources Sen Marco

9:03

Rubio and Gov that Bergen sing their

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Stop Rising stoner Kristi Noem sing hers

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falling and Trump praising them and the

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other prospects in his speech on Saturdays.

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And pretty funny because I was I

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suppose obviously this dogs who and stuff

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ain't going down well. we'll look at

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as smart as such as a lot

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funny content about that ladies relationship with

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man's best friend and have main. Target

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Practice focus and is is fantastic.

9:28

Of the some of the Jen

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Psaki saying about how Joe Biden

9:33

said handle this presidential campaign is

9:35

by picking his wits against that

9:37

unfavorable coliseum of opinion that is

9:39

the view. On. Both sides as working as

9:42

a perfect a table for now being in the

9:44

media and there's been a long cynicism abide and

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most recently from the New York Times that his

9:48

house the synthesis interviews and availability of any president

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since math and flag and I personally think it

9:53

would help the smell from the concern about his

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age of he did more. What was your advice

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be to the White House in terms of his.

10:00

About why think that's the benefit of the

10:02

media environment. Right now, there's a lot of

10:04

challenges them as often as the cries of

10:06

that. There are so many choices as when

10:09

you're communicating from the White House. I mean

10:11

respect for freedom of speech and freedom of

10:13

the press is important. As for your own,

10:15

really communicate with them with the American people.

10:18

Of my view is Caesar? Come on the

10:20

zoo before he doesn't. Do.

10:27

Studies that everything is becoming

10:29

been allies and be sacralized,

10:31

stripped of all meaning it

10:33

and even the potential for

10:35

meaning via legitimization of Joe

10:37

Biden Brevity: Being that it's

10:39

a more expedient and effective

10:42

way to communicate with that

10:44

too much were too busy.

10:46

With our busy lives to listen to

10:48

complex political perspectives and political. Manifesto. That's

10:50

just get him on the

10:52

view where he can be

10:54

crisp and succinct overseas one

10:56

machine. That this is an

10:58

attempt to mask his inability

11:01

to. Come cogently communicate and

11:03

for periods of time because of for

11:05

a number of reasons resistance makes him

11:07

that perfect candidate. Don't a let me

11:09

know what you think, worry, be available

11:11

and you shouldn't have to leave you

11:13

tube. And now because I'll tell you

11:15

why. Because Tulsi Gabbard com about ten

11:17

minutes before that I want to cover

11:19

this anti semitism feel that makes parts

11:21

of the bible officially high speeds that

11:23

have a look of i didn't want

11:25

to wake of Monday at you can

11:27

use the code I surrender to get

11:29

one month three thousand away from one

11:31

the about. Join his life hack into doesn't

11:33

make sense and you seen at that stage

11:35

they'd had to teach. They want you to

11:37

gain a whole book. Clubs where we do

11:39

readings of the momentum. Reading: Mere Christianity is

11:42

a brilliant book by Cs Lewis. You've probably

11:44

heard of it's most are looking into the

11:46

reason for God that's fantastic. Be cut to

11:48

take a link. Okay guys that have a

11:50

look at this when promising you the story

11:52

for a little while it's hot. Games were

11:54

before we I am guys with must the

11:57

lights and gratitude with the impeccable in a

11:59

comparable so. Gabbard. So this

12:01

as possible. We know that

12:03

this week the anti Semitism

12:06

awareness on highs of finally

12:08

passed. Now. There's a number

12:10

of complexities around the passing of

12:12

this bill where has the language

12:15

on the principles of behind it

12:17

been derived from? They get into

12:19

it together. Or

12:21

the house passes bill. It conflates

12:23

criticism of Israel with anti semitism

12:25

size. Indeed one of the components

12:27

of this bill, the criticism of

12:30

Israel what is deemed to be

12:32

anti semitism double standards towards Israel

12:34

is regarded to be anti semitism.

12:36

On in a minute we will

12:38

pull through a curious aspect. One

12:40

of the people that came up

12:42

with the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance

12:44

is set of principles of what

12:46

constitutes anti semitism Himself says this

12:48

orton be utilized in a legislative

12:51

context. It's a set of principles

12:53

to guide us, not not something

12:55

that should be utilized for law.

12:57

this is from any water Com

12:59

the legislation. Adopt the International Holocaust

13:01

Remembrance Lines or h Our Eyes

13:03

definition of Anti Semitism wish list

13:06

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy

13:08

to that of the Nazis as

13:10

an example of anti Semitism The

13:12

I it's all. I also defines

13:14

and Semitism as applying double standards

13:16

the Israel by requiring a bit

13:18

of a hideout know expected or.

13:21

Demanded of any other Democratic and

13:23

nice and I suppose example of

13:25

that would be that if you

13:27

believe that the United States is

13:30

a settler colony, Australia is a

13:32

settler colony. he would sastre hold

13:34

them to the same standards that

13:37

you might hold Israel to. Currently

13:39

there are no our actions, military

13:41

or otherwise all they have been

13:44

Australia really nice as America the

13:46

could be compared to for example

13:48

Israel's actions in Gaza Boss innocence.

13:51

You can see what this is designed

13:53

to do with the I Ate. All

13:55

a are ensuring that we know what

13:57

anti semitism is and the anti semites.

14:00

Them should be prevented by was

14:02

a common and has been comments

14:04

in the last year's during the

14:06

pandemic is under the auspices of

14:08

protection legislation has been passed. The

14:11

ostensibly is there to protect people

14:13

from being persecuted whether that vulnerable

14:15

people during a pandemic or ethnic

14:17

or racial or religious minorities during

14:20

times of or an apparent rise

14:22

of anti semitism. What we have

14:24

to be aware of his the

14:26

potential for this legislation to be

14:29

deployed to control persecute. In prison

14:31

and set them free speech. I guess

14:33

that's an important aspect of his conversation.

14:37

V. And also the Dunno and

14:39

the Jewish people there are self determination by

14:41

claiming that the existence of a state of

14:43

Israel is a racist endeavour in of itself.

14:46

Not. Gates pointed to another part

14:48

of the I H R A

14:50

definition that lists claims of the

14:52

Jews killing Jesus as an example

14:54

of and semitism. The gospel itself

14:56

would meet the definition under the

14:58

terms of the bill. He said

15:01

on this up to Tucker Carlson

15:03

and trolley car title mail online

15:05

conversation about bar and agreed that's

15:07

the whole of New Testament potentially

15:09

would become high speeds under this

15:11

new definition. Best have a look

15:13

at some articles that first help

15:15

us. To understand the first one, this

15:17

complex idea, the photos by Lee Fang

15:19

Tennis Stern, an anti Semitism expert who

15:22

helped develop the I Ate Our I

15:24

definition of anti Semitism has since criticized

15:26

efforts to enshrine the definitions and law.

15:28

There was never any idea that this

15:30

will be used as a Defacto high

15:32

speed code on Campus Stearns How The

15:34

Pawns of his room. He. Wanted to

15:36

train Pace officials on it and so

15:38

forth. but the details based on campus

15:41

in particular is something that was never

15:43

contemplated. Presumably part of the function of

15:45

this bill is to control, curtail, interrupt

15:48

and disruptor. Ongoing Pro Palestine activity on

15:50

various university campuses are to my over

15:52

the appropriate bounds of Free Speech has

15:55

ruled the Republican party scene from fab

15:57

him for years. Conservative pundits and politicians.

16:00

Claimed the high ground on free Speech,

16:02

accusing the list of suppressing conservative voices

16:04

and I did in the media and

16:06

on college campuses. Many of those same

16:08

figures on the right on now pursuing

16:10

the repression of anti Israel space with

16:13

equal. Viggo continues. Or the

16:15

of who considers these are related legislation

16:17

is just a lay. his saga of

16:19

the American Space Device as pulsating through

16:21

political and media discourse. In recent years,

16:24

over the last decade left leaning groups

16:26

have attempted to suppress space perceived as

16:28

crucial of non one minorities, transgender people

16:30

and immigrants The Button and Says and

16:32

Nine Thousand and Bombed of Homeland Security

16:35

to police online content concerning racial justice

16:37

under the banner of combating mis information

16:39

on height. So on that basis this

16:41

is not particularly unique piece of legislation

16:44

except. In so much as he

16:46

uses one of the religious doctrines

16:48

which under Goods was formerly known

16:50

as christened than western democracy, A

16:52

is now newly defined as hate

16:54

speech and we now have to

16:56

re enter the debate of how

16:59

humanitarianism, rationalism, and secularism under good

17:01

their ethics and morality. I A

17:03

Why is a human being sacred?

17:05

Why is human life side with

17:07

why do we have to love

17:09

one another and protects one another?

17:11

All of these moral and ethical

17:14

ideas assume. A kind of religious

17:16

position and in this case the what

17:18

religious for me is an inverted commas

17:20

because even if you are an atheist

17:23

and still claim that human beings by

17:25

virtue of consciousness or there were sentence

17:27

or their relationship two nights just have

17:30

some kind of unique position that ultimately

17:32

is I religious paradigm he would success

17:34

agree that have a look at their

17:37

next piece that we have on his

17:39

boss or see a loads a curiously

17:41

Michael Shannon bug have. Made.

17:43

Some great points about is T

17:46

queries, how the legislation will ultimately

17:48

be deployed and utilized and whether

17:50

it will have utilities beyond it's

17:52

current applications. He says he is

17:55

our government, is. using. Allegations of

17:57

anti semitism is give me Anti

17:59

Semitism. The basis for political censorship.

18:01

The Department of Homeland Secure A

18:03

was played a large role in

18:05

creating the censorship complex behind his

18:07

complex behind suppression of dissent Around

18:09

Carbon Nineteen and Twenty Twenty election

18:11

is explore in pro Hamas incidents

18:13

are universities to expand his influence.

18:15

Other academic curricula in the name

18:17

of fight in this information is

18:19

not hard to see how the

18:21

I just limitations on academic freedom

18:23

may be weaponized against other political

18:25

positions in the future. See you

18:27

find it helpful to try to

18:29

remove. What the argument is, what the

18:32

subject is or the issue is it

18:34

doesn't matter where people are talking about

18:36

vaccines, it doesn't matter which cultural religious

18:38

group able to get about, then you

18:40

can identify whether or not you have

18:42

a principal present. Well if you believe

18:44

in free speech that free speech is

18:46

only relevant as this headline suggests is

18:48

you defend it for people you face.

18:51

The words of this a theologian are

18:53

also very useful and helping us to

18:55

understand. see my ultimately benefit from legislation's

18:57

the further undermine the idea of living

18:59

life from. A Religious or in this

19:01

case of course specifically Christie perspectives

19:03

Cruces know that some of this

19:05

language A He He refers the

19:07

idea that us Christ was killed

19:09

by Jews which of course is

19:11

literally scriptural and and I'm some

19:14

would argue historical as well as

19:16

liturgical language as a baseline. Some

19:18

of his language have been used

19:20

throughout history as an anti Semitic

19:22

contacts over here. Albert Mohler doesn't

19:24

deny that that is an anti

19:26

semitic tribe or has been used

19:28

as one Know that A. Fundamentally,

19:30

University is one for that. It's has

19:32

been used as one of the same

19:34

time orthodox Biblical Christianity. Even the simple

19:36

principle but preview of the go from

19:38

could be directly targeted by this kind

19:40

of legislation or language for that matter.

19:43

By this loose logic, the entire New

19:45

Testament can be targeted a safe space.

19:47

Just start with the Gospel of John

19:49

is almost as if this definition has

19:51

been constructed to serve the ends of

19:53

liberal theology. It will be even more

19:55

dangerous in the hands of modern secularists,

19:57

and I feel that was the era.

20:00

Them Albert Mohler is pointing to Here

20:02

is a potential. the oh I'm really.

20:04

All about ethical and. Moral. Moral and

20:06

spiritual principles will ultimately be stripped

20:08

away until snarly will. We owe

20:11

nothing and be happy. Materially will

20:13

believe nothing and be happy spiritually

20:15

without the possibility of choosing a

20:17

path, surrendering finding a God of

20:20

your own understanding which as you

20:22

know what route in my case

20:24

is Christianity as of reasonableness Christian

20:26

way? How many minutes now and

20:28

or a little while wearing suits?

20:31

But the idea that that kind

20:33

of ideology, theology and scripture time.

20:35

Be legislated against. Even though perhaps

20:37

Matt Gates was being facetious in

20:40

raising it is significant because is

20:42

not our mutely the project of

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secure realism, secularism and materialism. Stripping

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away of divinity, Stripping away about

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individual and communal connection to hire

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born again. I'll write to change

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our right to grow beyond the

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limitations of the material world, our

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right to seek atonement in another

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idea that. This language can be legislated

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against is a dangerous precedent. Even as

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a album motor points out, conservative activists

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sense appear Us has come out against

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the bill. Noting massive problems with the

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definition of anti Semitism is concerns about

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actor and honest and powerful coming from

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a prominent Jewish voice. He concludes your

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important reasons like says about time posted

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confused I ate or a definition of

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anti semitism is a problem. I especially

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appreciate one of his posts and Twenty

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cultural revolution. Make sure you're on

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the right side of the struggle.

21:47

For. The Rise as he truly

21:50

understand what's at stake, our

21:52

ability to find define determine,

21:54

interact with and by meaning

21:56

his voice potentially under threat

21:58

as well as. The Empowerment.

22:01

Of the censorship industrial complex, this

22:03

empowers all the wrong forces within

22:05

American and global political life. And

22:07

the fact that this is just

22:09

another one of these bills you

22:12

think that many bills of just

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whisked through Congress and the last

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couple of weeks and been signed

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a white section seven oh two

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in a smash and grab fire

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something extraordinary is happening and is going

22:33

to require new realizes it's on. It's

22:35

going to require new alliances and a

22:37

new emboldening of all of us. As

22:39

a community but I says wiping them and I was you

22:41

think in the comments. And the trap one.

22:44

Ah, but before we get our Tulsi

22:46

Gabbard, I would like to say that

22:48

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all the more likely by the passing

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Gabbard passing on your questions. I'm.

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the content baby. What is

24:11

most exciting about Tulsi Gabbard, a

24:14

woman whose dedicated much of her

24:16

life to the Us Army and

24:18

to Congress is a C Perhaps

24:20

defines in her career the new

24:22

species that are appearing politically. And

24:24

the impossibility of old taxonomies in describing

24:26

was happening as a whole of American

24:28

life says he's here because. The New

24:31

Book her first book For the love

24:33

of country, leave the Democrat. Party behind

24:35

his just been released is available Now we're

24:37

poor link to it in the description. I'm

24:39

afraid we'll probably puzzle Amazon one face. Just

24:42

easier, isn't it? That's what they've done. Save

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my Globalism. So easy to there's no way

24:46

around it. Were gonna have to probably do

24:48

it. I mean, you could go and buy

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from a bookstore, but we know our com

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us works these days. Now is an exciting

24:54

guess. You've posted your questions. a lot of

24:57

wants to glass and civil of you. Want

24:59

to talk about the military? A lot of

25:01

you want to talk about corruption within them.

25:03

Within Democrat Pie, you can follow Se using

25:05

her handle Tulsi Gabbard across all social media

25:07

platforms. Policy: Welcome to stay free with Russell

25:10

Brand. Think. You're awesome

25:12

to see again, Grid talk to

25:14

other excited to speak to and

25:16

I'm I'm among the many things

25:18

that you've achieved. Master in promotion

25:20

is perhaps chief among them. Your

25:22

ability to place your book in

25:25

shorts is a mesmerizing a what's

25:27

your gyro learning designer? There. Is

25:29

a very good a Having dedicated.

25:31

So much of your life to the

25:33

American military and having them dedicate so

25:35

much of your life as a Democrat

25:37

pie. I mean, I suppose the title

25:39

of your book gives a pretty clear

25:42

indication way your alliances lie and how

25:44

you have evolved, but you must love

25:46

to a degree both of these institutions.

25:48

And yet one of the main reasons

25:50

you've left to the Democrat party is

25:52

because you say they are a party

25:54

of war mongers. Now can you tell

25:56

me how the. Establishment: Foreign

25:59

Policy. The has become divorced

26:01

from the interests of the American

26:03

people, the interest of the world.

26:05

And even from the interests of the. American

26:07

military. Or

26:10

bank. The first of all, just zest

26:12

for the purposes. Clarity: My love is

26:14

for our country and the reason why.

26:16

Serve in our military now for over

26:18

twenty one years serving as an officer

26:20

and Us Army Reserve currently or is

26:23

motivated by that love of country and

26:25

wanting to be of service my time

26:27

over twenty years in the Democratic Party

26:29

I joined in two thousand and two

26:31

I was twenty one years old. I

26:34

saw that then a party. Of of

26:36

Free Speech A Big Ten party that

26:38

welcome people of different backgrounds, different religions,

26:41

different views set stood up for civil

26:43

liberties and free speech even for people

26:45

they disagreed with or and was a

26:48

party that fought for the little guy

26:50

and you fast forwards where we are

26:52

Today that party has become only unrecognizable

26:54

and so just as my been part

26:57

of the democratic party was driven by

26:59

my love of country, my desire to

27:01

serve. So. Too was

27:03

my decision to leave the party

27:06

because it has become a party

27:08

that stance diametrically opposed to the

27:10

fundamental principles of freedom. That.

27:12

That makes this. Country The great country that it

27:15

is. I've spoken to a

27:17

number of West Point veterans military personnel

27:19

who I am former and current, and

27:21

it seems to me that there is

27:24

a pervasive sentiment from our the Us.

27:26

military. The. Of powerful an

27:28

establishment. Zealand said. I believe

27:30

that the government is our control

27:33

that numerous was thoughtless. Your country

27:35

has been involved, been and remains

27:38

involved in. I have a fruit

27:40

aid or direct military involvement are

27:42

put in it Succinctly corrupt. The.

27:45

You feel that there's a real danger

27:47

for the military, could become a anti

27:50

establishment for the patriotism and America now

27:52

means no. The love of your government

27:54

by you have described a love of

27:56

your nice this think this current and

27:59

very definitively. Separate from your a

28:01

government. He. I think that

28:03

the prevailing sentiment is because often

28:05

times those who serve him wear

28:08

the uniform they understand. Oh.

28:10

That the costs of the decisions that

28:12

politicians make and have the clarity to

28:14

be able to see that even as

28:17

we have a civilian lead military as

28:19

we should. When. You have

28:21

politicians too often from both political

28:23

parties. Score! Putting their own self

28:25

interests first, were putting the party's

28:28

interests force or as we see

28:30

very often, the interests of the

28:32

military industrial. Complex her, nothing could

28:34

be more offensive and insulting to

28:36

a certain number willing to lay

28:39

down their lives in service to

28:41

our country sav, a politician who

28:43

has the power to send us

28:45

to war, not caring about our

28:47

country at all and not asking.

28:49

The most basic question is is

28:51

this decision? Do we get involved

28:53

in this. War: That? where do we

28:55

go and wage this war? Or do

28:57

we choose peace and diplomacy? As

29:00

those decisions are not very often be

29:02

made. Answering the question: does this actually

29:04

serve our national security interests as the serve

29:06

the interests in the wellbeing of the American

29:08

people. Both.

29:12

Bobby Kennedy. And Donald

29:14

Trump in their own ways. Of

29:16

course, two different degree are. Enjoying

29:19

extraordinary success and bought is reductive

29:21

decide that both are regarded as

29:23

an establishment figures or another. they're

29:25

off detractors of both. Who would

29:27

deny. That. And I know

29:29

that the Biden critiques of Trump would

29:31

be these crazy and as I will

29:34

and establishment for takes of Bobby Kennedy

29:36

will pay the is a crazy pro

29:38

back from all about Gonna Stuff but

29:40

does not. The rise of both of

29:42

these figures suggest that there is a

29:44

steep yearning for significant change in American.

29:47

Cultural. And political lies we

29:49

question about it then or another.

29:51

Most of these parties are released

29:53

the purple A to have caught

29:55

Edu, your support and your membership.

29:57

maybe even as vice president and.

30:00

Cases. I. Wonder if you

30:02

believe that either one of those per

30:04

views could represent the kind of change

30:06

the America requires on the basis of

30:08

your analysis of the teary eye since

30:11

during the time would be the you

30:13

been involved in particular the institution as

30:15

a democrat by. A

30:17

know it's very telling. There was a

30:19

Gallup poll that was done a couple

30:22

of weeks ago that showed up forty

30:24

three percent of Americans I don't identify

30:26

with either party. And be

30:29

seen how that number is growing over

30:31

and really so it shows the the

30:33

minority of Americans identify. With. The

30:35

Democrat Party or identify with the Republican party

30:37

and even those who still identify with those

30:40

parties and me people the time Talk to

30:42

people almost every day. Who. Are

30:44

disenfranchised Republicans who are

30:46

disenfranchised democrats. Most Americans

30:48

very frustrated because we see too often

30:51

a system and currently the party that's

30:53

and power. Again, who is not looking

30:55

after. The interests of the American

30:58

people. So what what?

31:00

how? This election season six out

31:02

we will see. But I agree

31:04

with their analysis. That's more. Americans

31:06

recognize how deeply rooted the corruption

31:09

and the rot is within our

31:11

government, both in elected officials as

31:13

well as those who buy their

31:15

been appointed or bureaucrats who were

31:18

acting for their own self interest

31:20

instead of the interests of the

31:22

people. And so wow Wow. That

31:24

is a very. Bad thing, or

31:26

the fact that more and more people

31:28

are waking up to it because they're

31:31

seeing the consequences impacting their everyday lives,

31:33

their families, their communities, Of the

31:35

hope is. That in hope is

31:37

that this. Is an election

31:39

where we can actually we can

31:42

actually bring about serious chance? Plainly

31:44

you'd prefer either of those kind.

31:46

Is it to the current incumbent

31:48

of the White House? Wits.

31:51

Would you vote for. Ah

31:54

focused on in my. Book in in

31:56

delivering the message of my experience

31:58

within the Democrat. It party. Ah,

32:01

The danger that the Biden

32:03

Harris Administration posed to our

32:05

fundamental rights and freedoms and

32:07

how they are undermining our

32:10

democracy. I want wants to get

32:12

a little bit closer to Election Day? I'll

32:14

I'll I'll share. My plans are really yeah,

32:16

I see this and they have to be

32:19

careful about because it's still divisive? And do

32:21

you suppose that even between Trump and Rfk

32:23

now there will be. More. Hostile

32:25

A rather than a kind of

32:28

alliance based on the idea that

32:30

in spite of in each instance

32:32

indicate as the in some regards

32:34

they are supporters of establishment edicts

32:37

such as Trump. Vote in thought

32:39

that Ninety Five been supported excuse

32:41

me about Ninety Five billion dollar

32:43

a bill and Bobby Kennedy's position

32:46

perhaps on Middle East and complex

32:48

the are Obama Li they will

32:50

turn one another. I don't know

32:52

much about how your politics was.

32:55

Protect me when it's heads into this

32:57

of white he of November is it

32:59

for you. A difficult thing to get

33:01

involved in. Or for

33:03

me it's it's more so about

33:05

out where I feel that I

33:08

can make the most positive impact.

33:10

I left the Democratic party. I

33:12

have a message that I can

33:14

deliver that shares my experiences that

33:16

talks about the very in detail

33:18

the very real consequences not of

33:20

of saying well you know the

33:23

Democrat approach to education versus the

33:25

republican approached education. For example I

33:27

tackle these these issues like freedom

33:29

of speech like the rule of

33:31

law or how increasing. Increasingly, the

33:33

Democrat leader fomenting racism in our

33:36

country and tearing us apart looking

33:38

at each of these issues in

33:40

detail so that voters can recognize

33:42

the problem. First of all, In

33:45

order to be able to find a

33:47

solution, we have the first correctly diagnosed

33:49

the problem and I left the Democratic

33:51

Party because they are the party that

33:54

is undermining freedom and willing to sacrifice

33:56

the rule of law, our democracy and

33:58

so forth in their purse. If

34:00

our. It you know

34:02

there. There's been some back and forth

34:04

between President Trump and Bobby Kennedy. I

34:07

know both of them out. We'll We'll

34:09

see how things shake out, but it

34:11

is. It's clear that President Trump as

34:13

as the presumptive. Republican nominee.

34:16

Is. Is in a far better

34:18

position and a far stronger position

34:20

to the seat Joe Biden than

34:22

Bobby Kennedy. Do

34:25

I'm having spent a good number

34:27

years within their systems? Do or

34:29

do have anything that you can

34:32

share with us about the and

34:34

a practical abilities of a man

34:36

like Joe Biden? Because someone like

34:38

me who's just anti establishment in

34:41

those broad and sweeping why would

34:43

assume that of whoever were in

34:45

the. White House. Whether it was as

34:48

a socially capable individual like Barack Obama

34:50

or Us George W. Bush who are

34:52

as time was kind of regard event

34:54

of a time has been a kind

34:56

of an open a joke and stuff

34:58

like that I wonder. These.

35:01

I wonder how much actual executive

35:03

power is wielded by a cigar

35:05

like Joe. Biden and that they have

35:07

the recent claimed that he speak only and

35:09

sound bites and do les Pr and much

35:12

who a species. Seems to be an

35:14

indication that they are acknowledging his

35:16

son as innocence and cognitive decline.

35:18

What was your feeling about this

35:20

man who once was a solve

35:22

a pretty potent firebrand will be

35:24

a career congress person and seemingly

35:27

prefer up in a bunch of

35:29

ways by some odd learn that

35:31

he at least seemed cogent How

35:33

much as who powers that person

35:35

capable of wielding, how can he

35:37

make decisions? have some he direct

35:39

power. To as

35:42

an incredible amount of power and over

35:44

time we've seen how and and this

35:46

is A this is something that Congress

35:49

has has either allowed to happen or

35:51

willingly executed which is an increase of

35:53

a transfer of power away from the

35:56

Legislative branch and into the Executive branch

35:58

into the hands of. The White

36:00

House and the President I did states

36:02

it's an unfortunate thing because our our

36:04

system of governance of course is set

36:07

up with three coequal branches of government

36:09

by on the issue of war and

36:11

peace for example we've seen. That the

36:13

last us is that we have been in

36:15

many. Wars and many conflicts. And

36:18

yet Congress has not exercise

36:20

it's constitutional responsibility. To be the

36:22

body that actually declares war. Before

36:24

that action can take place, they've

36:26

given that over. To the

36:29

President and the executive branch because

36:31

they don't wanna be held responsible

36:33

for it. This. Administration

36:35

The by the administration I

36:37

you know there. There are

36:39

certainly challenges. There are certainly

36:41

questions about his. State.

36:44

Of mind and his. Ability to be

36:46

presence and focused on the decisions

36:48

that are being made. But ultimately

36:51

I hold him responsible. I've no

36:53

doubt about the fact that he

36:55

is surrounded by people who have.

36:57

Our. In our they're handing him the know cards

37:00

and they're shaping the agenda. We see over and

37:02

over how they go when and he says one

37:04

thing then they come back and they will know

37:06

he didn't actually mean that. And and

37:08

say, the exact opposites his handlers

37:10

have. A lot of power, there's no doubt about

37:12

it, but. He. Was elected as president.

37:15

I said he is making the

37:17

decision to run for reelection. He

37:19

is the person that we as

37:21

American voters must hold responsible or

37:23

the decisions that that are being

37:25

made and a very dangerous consequences

37:27

of those policies. We

37:30

have continually invite aid to

37:32

regard the hone in on

37:34

ghoulish sega of Donald Trump

37:37

as I kind of reincarnation

37:39

of the militaristic despotism that

37:42

blight a the twentieth century

37:44

by is my belief policy

37:47

that what we're sliding into

37:49

is a new kind of

37:52

technological dictatorship or despotism that

37:54

is calling the all of

37:57

that bears the. As say

37:59

of view. that owes

38:01

more to Kafka and to Huxley

38:03

and Orwell than Hitler or Stalin

38:06

through the increasing power of the

38:09

censorship industrial complex through the ability

38:11

to Shut down protests through the

38:13

ability to shut down free speech

38:16

smear political Dissidents and

38:18

opponents use the judiciary as a

38:20

tool of weaponry shut down the

38:22

campaigns of active political Opponents

38:25

whether it's through censorship or lawfare

38:27

seems to me that the thing

38:29

that we are being Instructed to fear in

38:31

the form of Donald Trump is already

38:33

upon us in the form of this

38:37

technocratic yet technological Dictatorship

38:41

it's already arrived. Do you

38:43

feel that? Yes, it's

38:45

more than a feeling its fact You

38:47

know the evidence backs it up and there's

38:50

it's a very intentional strategic move

38:52

for the Democrat elites narrative

38:54

to be warning the

38:56

American people saying Crazy things

38:59

like if you vote for Donald Trump if

39:01

you see if he is allowed to win

39:03

this election It'll be the last election the

39:05

United States ever has that he will be

39:07

the dictator in chief painting this dark

39:09

bleak picture That you've just

39:11

outlined when the facts and the

39:13

evidence show that they have already

39:15

created this and this is exactly

39:18

The problem they are weaponizing our public

39:20

institutions They're using the Department of Justice

39:22

and law enforcement to go after their

39:25

major political opponent in Donald Trump But

39:27

also going after our fellow Americans, you

39:29

know when President Biden said, you know over

39:31

half the country I think

39:34

he said 76 million voters

39:36

in America are MAGA extremists and

39:39

they pose this greatest threat Domestic

39:42

threat to our democracy He painted

39:44

a target on the backs of

39:46

tens of millions of Americans who

39:48

voted against him and for the

39:50

other guy voted for Donald Trump and

39:52

President Biden spoke to the country saying they are

39:55

the greatest threat we face When

39:57

you look at the kind of implications that

39:59

has in our society, and you look

40:01

at the reality that parents are

40:03

getting arrested for going to Board of

40:05

Education meetings and standing and

40:08

very passionately speaking about their child's

40:10

education, or their fear and anger

40:12

around the fact that their gentleman

40:16

in Loudoun County in Virginia, where I happen

40:18

to be today, he stood up and his

40:20

daughter was sexually assaulted by a boy who

40:22

claimed to be a girl in the girls'

40:24

bathroom. And instead of the school and

40:26

the Board of Education actually doing

40:28

something about it and holding this kid

40:31

and his family responsible for this, they

40:34

quietly transferred him to another school

40:36

without saying anything, without telling the

40:38

parents of this girl who was

40:40

sexually assaulted. And guess what, within

40:42

a very short period of time, this boy

40:44

went on to sexually assault another girl in

40:46

the girls' bathroom, even as he claimed to

40:49

be now a girl. There

40:51

are so many examples of how

40:55

Donald Trump is the face of this

40:57

figure who is being targeted. They are

40:59

throwing everything but the kitchen sink, trying

41:01

to tie him up in court, drain

41:03

him of time and money and resources,

41:05

smear his character, put out this narrative that

41:08

they hope will cause voters to turn

41:10

away from him and throw up their

41:12

hands and say, well, I guess Joe Biden's the only option.

41:15

But it's also happening to Americans

41:20

who you will likely never know the names

41:22

of. The consequences of this

41:24

and the precedent that it sets. And

41:27

you're exactly right, it is the

41:29

elected leaders, it is the bureaucrats,

41:31

it is the administrative state, many

41:35

layers down who are executing this.

41:37

And the dangerous thing is they're doing

41:39

this in the name of democracy. They're

41:41

telling us we have to do this

41:44

to save democracy. They're so

41:46

terrified of free people in

41:48

a free society, getting the

41:50

information wherever we wanna get it, discerning

41:53

that information, making up our own decisions,

41:57

particularly as it relates to this upcoming election.

42:00

that they're trying to get Donald Trump

42:02

off the ballot. That over

42:04

32 states tried to unilaterally remove

42:06

Donald Trump's ballots, so we wouldn't even have

42:08

the choice to vote for him.

42:10

And their excuse for that is essentially,

42:12

well, we are trying to save our

42:14

democracy. We are too afraid of voters

42:17

making the quote unquote wrong choice in

42:19

this election, that we have

42:21

to undermine and destroy our democracy

42:23

in order to save it. Save it

42:25

from who? Save it from the American

42:28

people, from actually exercising our freedom. That's

42:30

how twisted their mindset

42:32

is. And it

42:34

paints that picture of exactly

42:37

where we will go as a country if they're allowed

42:39

to do this and get away with it.

42:42

And it creates

42:44

that certainty for me and

42:47

for others paying attention. If

42:49

they're allowed to stay in power, this country that

42:51

I love, that we love will

42:53

be gone. It'll be unrecognizable. Yes,

42:56

I understand that you're saying that we

42:58

already face a far greater threat. And

43:01

many people point to the four years

43:03

that Trump has already had in office

43:05

and his record on war and a

43:08

variety of other issues as

43:10

indicators that the level of

43:12

polarization and hysteria are somewhat

43:15

unwarranted, at least on the

43:17

basis of empirical evidence. You've

43:20

referred to the culture war

43:22

and the significant power and

43:24

disruption that have caused around

43:27

a variety of issues. You

43:29

mentioned the issues around gender

43:31

and how that plays out

43:33

culturally. One thing I

43:35

thought that was interesting that Trump

43:37

said when referring to abortion and

43:39

this caused a degree of controversy

43:43

was that he would leave it

43:46

to individual states. I took that to

43:48

mean that decentralization and federalism could be

43:50

part of the solution to this increasing

43:53

polarization, this growing contempt between people on

43:55

both sides of the aisle, even though

43:57

you are an indicator that those... taxonomies

44:00

are starting to melt with

44:02

positions that previously have

44:04

been attributed to one party now

44:07

migrating, the issue of free speech,

44:09

the issue of war being but

44:11

two of the issues that have

44:13

altered and they continue to flip

44:15

and change as protests in the

44:17

colleges currently around matters in the

44:19

Middle East demonstrate and reflect. I

44:22

wonder, given that it's

44:24

unlikely that post the

44:26

November elections were unlikely to see

44:29

a happy

44:31

and gracious succession of

44:33

power, do you

44:35

feel that federalism and decentralization may

44:37

at least in part hold the

44:40

solution to what seem to be

44:42

pretty seismic problems in your country?

44:45

Yes, I do. And it's something

44:48

that, you know, I've seen

44:50

throughout my time serving in Congress

44:52

and have understood

44:55

how destructive it

44:57

has been and counterproductive at best

44:59

it's been when you

45:01

have this big brother,

45:04

big government overreach into

45:06

our lives, into our

45:08

schools and

45:11

into our communities. And going back again

45:13

and looking at the Federalist

45:15

Papers, looking at the thoughts

45:17

and the intent behind our

45:19

country's founder's vision

45:21

as they crafted our founding

45:24

documents, it really was

45:26

our Constitution speaks to the very

45:28

real limitations of government, the federal

45:31

government, and its intent that

45:33

power be decentralized really to the

45:35

lowest level possible where people know

45:38

their communities. My home state

45:40

of Hawaii is vastly different from California

45:42

or New York or Montana or

45:45

Texas or Florida. Every state has

45:47

its own unique culture, has its

45:49

own unique constituency. Our

45:52

communities are best served and

45:54

best able to impact decisions that

45:57

are made, important policy decisions that are made

45:59

when they're made. made at the lowest

46:01

level. With this deep

46:03

low think that many of us feel for institutional

46:06

political figures and lawmakers from

46:08

across the spectrum, because of

46:11

the assumption that they are

46:13

investing in stocks and shares

46:15

that they have the ability

46:18

to regulate and therefore benefit

46:20

from the assumption that companies

46:22

like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon

46:25

wield incredible power over American

46:27

foreign policy, including

46:30

the participation in wars that simply wouldn't

46:32

happen if a more diplomatic

46:34

perspective were allowed to thrive

46:36

or even, let's face it,

46:38

a more democratic or representative

46:40

perspective. What

46:43

have you experienced of that? Are there points where

46:45

you feel like, well, I know this, that this

46:47

bill is likely to be passed. Are

46:49

there points where you feel like you're going to

46:51

buy some stocks in Lockheed Martin? Or are

46:54

there like lobbying like on the ground? What's

46:56

it like to get lobbied? Is it true there

46:58

are two lobbyists for every member of Congress? And

47:02

where does the lobbying take place? And how does

47:04

one, what is the prophylactic against

47:07

lobbying? Okay, this is a huge one. There's

47:11

a lot of questions there. There are far

47:13

more than two lobbyists per member of Congress. Many,

47:15

many, many more. Many more. One

47:19

of the first things that happened is every

47:21

member of Congress, you get elected, you go

47:23

through what they call orientation briefings. And

47:26

first they happen in a bipartisan sense where you

47:28

have Democrats and Republicans, you go and sit in

47:30

a room and you know, you

47:32

get a brief on on ethics, the

47:34

ethics rules, you get a brief on,

47:36

you know, here's how the process works.

47:38

You get briefs on here's the big

47:40

issues of the day that you should

47:42

be somewhat educated on kind of a

47:44

one oh one introduction. And

47:46

then they break us off into two

47:49

different places and rooms and buses. Democrats go

47:51

one way, the Republicans go the other way.

47:54

And the briefings that I got as a new

47:56

Democrat in Congress at the end of 2012 sworn

47:58

in. in early 2013

48:01

were very much the same as those that

48:03

my Republican colleagues got in a few distinct

48:05

ways. Number one is, I remember

48:07

they had a PowerPoint slide up

48:09

showing how your average day would

48:11

look. And it was

48:13

shocking to me, I gotta find that image because

48:15

I remember capturing a picture with my phone, but

48:19

the predominant amount of time, hours

48:21

in a day, spent

48:23

lobbying or spent at

48:25

fundraisers with lobbyists or

48:28

on the phone calling lobbyists and asking for

48:30

money was the majority of the

48:32

day. Really, so the amount of time you

48:34

spent in your committees doing policy work or

48:37

on the House floor for votes, on

48:39

average, let's say it's four or five hours a day, the

48:41

rest of the day you are spending fundraising.

48:45

I went and I saw, okay, well, on

48:47

that, yes, okay, go to two different fundraising

48:49

breakfasts every morning, you'll sit around a table

48:51

with a bunch of lobbyists and

48:53

you talk about different issues or whatever and you

48:55

leave with a bunch of envelopes with

48:58

political campaign contributions. And then on average, a

49:00

member of Congress will go and have one

49:02

or two lunches, same situation. And

49:05

then you'll probably go and have another fundraising dinner

49:07

on any given day of the week and make

49:09

sure you go in and pop in and make

49:11

sure, get those phone calls to make sure that

49:13

people show up to the next day that

49:15

fundraisers and this is how people raise tens

49:18

of millions of dollars all

49:20

in the course of a day's work.

49:24

I saw this, I experienced it when I first got there and

49:26

I was just like, man, this is wrong.

49:28

I don't like this at

49:31

all. And so I stopped taking any

49:33

lobbyist contributions and political

49:36

action committee contributions. And

49:38

I loved it because I saw how my

49:40

day was completely freed up, I was able

49:42

to focus on my policy work and substantive

49:45

work in Congress, talking to my constituents in

49:47

Hawaii, but I saw the

49:49

contrast and one of my friends who was

49:51

a lobbyist for renewable energy industry, she

49:55

told me, she said, oh wow, you're not

49:57

taking any more money from lobbyists? I

50:00

said, no, she's like, well, you're

50:02

obviously never running for any higher

50:05

office ever again. Your political career

50:07

is done. You are where you are and that's it. I

50:10

talked to some like

50:13

grassroots organizers who were working on different issues

50:15

who came and visited me and they said,

50:17

oh my gosh, Tulsi, you stopped taking lobbyist

50:19

money and PAC money. You

50:22

must obviously be running for president. And

50:25

it was just a funny contrast that happened

50:27

in the course of a couple of

50:29

days between the Washington insider perception, which

50:31

is you will never go anywhere

50:33

in politics unless you take our

50:35

money. And the opposite

50:37

coming from people who were like, you know,

50:39

the $5, $10 donations, the small dollar donations

50:43

to support the candidate that they like, going

50:45

out and knocking on doors and making

50:47

phone calls, joining the cause of actually

50:49

bringing about grassroots change and their perception

50:51

was exactly the opposite. Like, oh, thank

50:54

God, you don't have anything to

50:56

do with those corrupt Washington

50:58

insiders. It is the power

51:00

of the people who will prevail. I

51:04

wanna talk about the stocks, cause

51:08

this is a big one. This is a big one. I

51:11

never, to answer your question

51:13

directly, I never sat there and looked at

51:15

a vote coming up and saying, I wonder

51:17

how Microsoft is gonna react to this vote.

51:20

Let me go and buy some Microsoft stock.

51:22

I saw the opposite. I

51:25

went in knowing that perception is

51:27

reality and I did not

51:29

do any stock trading at all of any

51:31

sort for the eight years that I was in

51:33

Congress, because whether or

51:35

not they are acting on insider

51:37

information or it's just some happy

51:39

coincidence that they, you know,

51:42

buy a million dollars of stock that magically goes

51:44

up 200% within the next week when

51:46

a vote is taken, it doesn't really

51:48

matter because perception is

51:51

reality. Members of Congress

51:53

elected leaders are held and should

51:55

be held to a higher standard

51:58

and should not, should not. be in

52:00

that position where there's even a perception

52:02

that you are acting in your own

52:04

self-interest. So I introduced legislation when I

52:06

was in Congress that would have prohibited

52:09

a member of Congress, their spouse,

52:12

or their senior staff, their chief

52:14

of staff from trading

52:16

in any stocks because

52:18

you have access to information that the public does

52:21

not have, whether you're acting on it or not.

52:24

Legislation is reality and it's

52:28

just wrong. It's just wrong. Both

52:30

sides are doing it. They're making a

52:32

lot of money. I've seen those memes that

52:35

people put out that show different members of

52:37

what their net worth was when

52:39

they started and obviously the longer they're there,

52:41

the more wealthy they become

52:43

and they're no longer really truly representing

52:45

the interests of the people. How

52:48

did that legislation go that you

52:50

introduced? What do you think? What do you

52:52

think? They're still doing

52:54

it if that answers your question. Yeah,

52:57

in a way that's an indication

52:59

of the kind of systemic problems

53:01

that need to be addressed

53:04

obviously. You said before that

53:06

you're economically populist and it seems

53:08

to me that populism oughtn't be

53:10

as it has become a kind

53:13

of dirty word, conflated as many

53:15

things are with racism and the

53:17

right, but it oughtn't be a

53:20

contract between the people and

53:22

their elected officials and lawmakers.

53:24

Do you feel that part

53:26

of what we're experiencing, whether it's

53:28

with the TikTok ban or

53:31

the anti-Semitism bill, is the

53:33

understanding in the houses and

53:35

institutions of power that what

53:37

currently yet exists with social media,

53:39

even impeded as it is, with

53:42

the rise of independent media, with

53:44

the phenomenal ability to generate and

53:46

spread counter-narratives, is first of all

53:48

the requirement of categories that didn't

53:50

even exist, like malinformation, which obviously

53:52

I know I've heard you talk

53:54

about it, it means information that's

53:56

true, but it's really inconvenient that

53:58

is true. Do you

54:00

feel that in a sense

54:03

the underlying agenda of power

54:05

is currently to ensure that

54:08

no populist movement that opposes

54:10

the real interests that are

54:13

masked behind the masquerade and

54:15

charade of American

54:17

political life, as you have just

54:19

described it, never get any purchase,

54:21

never have any impact? Yes.

54:24

And then it speaks to that elitist mindset

54:26

of people in Washington who do

54:28

see populism or populist

54:30

as a bad word. They see

54:32

it as a bad word because they

54:34

think that they know what's best and

54:37

they and they alone should be able to

54:39

make the decisions that the rest of us

54:41

have to live under. They're afraid

54:43

of us actually having access to

54:45

information that we can gather opinions

54:47

or views that may not be

54:49

sanctioned or constructive

54:52

for the objectives

54:54

of the Washington elite and the power

54:56

elite. They may not be hopeful

54:59

to the corporate elitist or

55:02

the political elitist. And

55:05

so they are afraid. They're afraid of a

55:07

free people and a free society because

55:09

we actually pose the

55:11

greatest threat to their

55:13

power. We

55:15

in this country, our country was

55:18

built upon, we the people. And

55:21

we have the authority to choose whether or not

55:23

we want a government of, by, and for the

55:25

people. The power is in our

55:27

hands, but unfortunately, and I get it,

55:29

it's justified in many ways why

55:32

so many people don't even vote. They throw

55:34

up their hands and say, well, my vote's not going to

55:36

count. The system is too corrupt.

55:39

The elections are already

55:41

rigged. I'm just going to stay home and

55:44

complain about it and talk about it. And

55:46

I know the problems, but not actually use

55:48

my voice and my vote to bring about

55:50

change. And that is my call to

55:52

action in my book is

55:55

exactly that. We are only powerful if we choose

55:58

to use our power. We can only bring... about

56:00

change in this system

56:03

and in our government if we choose

56:05

to make that happen. And

56:07

yes, it's gotta start with stopping the destruction

56:09

of our democracy and our freedom that we're

56:11

seeing right now. But it

56:13

really happens at every level. We have people at

56:15

Board of Education and City Council and

56:18

state legislators and in Congress. And of

56:20

course for president, we have

56:22

to bring about this kind of change to

56:24

get the right people in office who are

56:27

actually focused on serving the people rather than

56:29

serving the interests of the elite or the

56:31

bureaucracies. You're obviously

56:33

a pretty potent and

56:36

unusual individual having served

56:38

in to such extraordinary

56:40

institutions so successfully and

56:42

for such a long time. How

56:45

do you feel having served in Iraq? And

56:47

I know that you were honored in Kuwait

56:49

and stuff or at least for your service

56:51

in Kuwait as a

56:53

part of that conflict. When

56:55

the definition of terrorism seems

56:58

to be becoming as

57:00

vague and as

57:03

applicable according to utility as

57:06

many of the other vague pieces of

57:08

legislature that appear to be currently passing.

57:10

I know that you've said for example,

57:12

that you are anti-all war except for

57:14

when it involves, I think you may

57:16

be said Islamic terrorism. I know that

57:18

you're correct me if I'm wrong. And

57:21

someone mentioned it in the chat and I feel like it's a pretty important

57:23

point. But when it seems now that

57:25

the powerful are able to designate as

57:28

terrorists their opponents, when we are increasingly

57:30

seeing in my country and in yours, elite

57:33

deep state units that were set

57:35

up to oppose terrorism in very

57:37

common abroad deployed domestically to target

57:40

the threat ultimately of free speech

57:42

and the kind of unified personal

57:45

power that you represent and are advocating

57:47

for in your book, do we have

57:49

to look even at the

57:51

categorization of terror and

57:54

what we mean by that as well

57:56

as perhaps considering the origins even of

57:58

specific forms of terrorism such as. that with you

58:00

opposed? Yes. Briefly

58:03

on my foreign policy

58:05

views, I

58:07

see the world for what it is, not

58:09

the fantasy land that too many of our

58:12

politicians view, the

58:14

lens that they view the world through and how

58:16

they make decisions that ultimately

58:18

so often end up being counter

58:20

to the interests of the American

58:22

people to peace and to our

58:25

security. I'm not a pacifist

58:27

or an isolationist. I just

58:29

believe that we should

58:32

exhaust all diplomatic measures,

58:34

means, outreach before we

58:36

look at the potential of war.

58:38

It should be the last result.

58:40

Sometimes it is necessary. The

58:43

adversary may change in different situations,

58:45

but we the people, as well

58:47

as those who wear the uniform,

58:49

must be able to trust that

58:51

our elected leaders are going to

58:53

do all that they possibly can

58:55

to prevent war and know

58:57

that if we are sent into harm's way, it

59:00

is for a mission that is necessary,

59:02

that is unavoidable, and that serves the

59:04

safety, security, and freedom of

59:06

the American people. To your

59:09

second point about the vague use of

59:11

the word terrorism and how these institutions

59:13

that were created, many of which were

59:15

created after the terrorist attack on 9-11

59:17

here in our country,

59:20

have been turned and used against

59:23

our fellow Americans. That

59:25

abuse of power, the warrantless surveillance that

59:27

in the recent legislation that was passed

59:29

was just strengthened that

59:32

allows these intelligence agencies to

59:35

target Americans. There was language

59:37

in the TikTok bill. I heard you talk about the TikTok

59:39

bill earlier, language in the TikTok

59:41

bill that included very vague

59:43

language about who the

59:46

president is allowed to designate, who

59:49

is a foreign adversary, or who

59:51

may own a business that they believe

59:53

is under the

59:55

influence of or directed by a foreign

59:58

adversary. Anytime you do that,

1:00:00

any time you put down in legislation

1:00:03

this vague kind of language, there

1:00:06

should be no doubt in our minds that

1:00:09

it's just a matter of time before

1:00:11

it's deployed against a political opponent. So

1:00:13

it's not a stretch of imagination. For

1:00:16

Elon Musk to rightly say, okay,

1:00:18

yep, today it's TikTok, tomorrow it

1:00:21

may be X. There's a

1:00:23

huge divergence between X and

1:00:26

meta, Facebook, Instagram, many of

1:00:29

the Google, Big Tech, these

1:00:31

other entities that have been

1:00:33

doing the bidding of

1:00:35

the Biden-Harris administration that have gone

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along whether willingly or field. They've

1:00:40

threatened or bullied or whatever the case may be.

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They have been actively censoring free

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speech on behalf of the Biden

1:00:48

administration. Elon Musk has made

1:00:50

clear that X won't do that and they won't play

1:00:52

that game. And so is it

1:00:55

really a stretch of imagination for

1:00:57

him to believe that if he's not willing

1:00:59

to play ball, that their targets may

1:01:02

be set on him next. That's fantastic.

1:01:04

Also, Rumble and Chris Pavloski, the CEO

1:01:06

there, have been extraordinarily bold on the

1:01:08

subject of free speech in Brazil and

1:01:11

in France and certainly in their support

1:01:13

of me when I was under attack,

1:01:15

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are able to manipulate and control Congress.

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You'll love it, he explains it more

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articulately, and he uses that phrase to

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blob rather well also. You can join

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us for that. We do

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a weekly book club. We're talking about

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mere Christianity. In fact, I'm like halfway

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through it, and I've been baptized, so

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that's how effective that book club is.

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We do a meditation each week. This

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week, we did a meditation on the

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value of each day, remaining present, and

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we do an exclusive video that's only

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available to our members. We did one on

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Operation Mockingbird. In fact, I think we've got a

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bit of that. Let's see if we've got it.

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We'll have a look at it now, because I

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think you'll like it if you, let me know

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if we've got it. Other than that. Operation

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Mockingbird was a still little understood operation

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undertaken by the CIA to convince Americans

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that Russians were bad. While the full

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extent of the CIA's reach is still

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not known, a former investigation in the

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1970s revealed 50 journalists

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at the country's most influential newspapers all

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had secret links to the CIA and

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were compensated to run CIA approved

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articles. This is one of those

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conspiracy theories, but not really. In

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so much as, well,

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it's actually demonstrably

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true that Operation Mockingbird was

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a thing and may yet

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be a thing. Use

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the code ISERENDER, you can get a month free

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and see what we're doing. We're going to go

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straight over there now and do another 10 minutes,

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have a little bit of a laugh together and you're

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right, yeah, it's pretty hot in here. What do you

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want me to do? Strip? You

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want me to do the show naked? Is that what

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you want from me? Well, join us on

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Locals if you think you've got the stomach

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for it. Thanks to all

1:04:24

of you that have become Awakened Wonders, here

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they are now. Thanks for supporting us and

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being members of our community. We appreciate you.

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Tomorrow we've got a fantastic show. Let us

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know what you want us to talk about. I'm thinking

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about the fake meats. The fake meats have been banned. I'm

1:04:36

thinking about the TikTok ban. Do you want to learn a

1:04:38

little bit more about that and what it's ultimately going to

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mean for us? I'm thinking that we should talk

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even more about censorship and, you know, let

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me know. And you, nipples

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out. No chance for Phoenix Snake UK.

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No way. I'll never do it. I'll

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take it off. Take it off, says Brandon. Let's go.

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I won't. Maybe I will on Locals.

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No, I'm not doing that. We're better than this.

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We have to be better than this. See

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you in a minute on Locals. See you tomorrow if

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you ain't coming. Remember, I surrender the code. There's a

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link in the description. Join us.