With every passing year, groups and duos within Hip-Hop are increasingly becoming a rarity within the genre. Especially as more more artists and producers opt for more solo careers or one-off collaborations. Challenging this notion however, are rapper, KILLcRey and, producer, Gene Flo. Both hailing from San Diego, California (Barrio Logan and Chula Vista). Together the rapper/producer duo makeup The Invisible Panchos, the live performance project of the long time collaborators. After years of collaborating and working adjacent to one another in San Diego's underground Hip-Hop scene, the duo decided to come together to create a live performance art piece using their individual and collective music as the canvas. In our latest installment of Step Off! Radio, KILLcRey and Gene Flo came on to the show to talk about their experiences as emcees, producers, podcast hosts and their general experiences as independent artists in San Diego’s Hip-Hop scene. In this interview you will be able to hear our conversation diving into KILLcRey and Gene Flo's early years, their influences, their journey into podcasting, and great general insight from two incredible artists that have made a name for themselves as innovators and envelope pushers in the local scene. Likewise, you also hear from both artists what it means to them to be futurists, artists, rappers, podcast hosts. With thats said, we present to you our conversation with the Invisible Panchos!