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find out how. Jim, I have

1:14

a question about your framing here. You're

1:17

sort of implying that Donald Trump and

1:19

Joe Biden are the same and we

1:21

both know that Donald Trump tells

1:24

his followers a lot of lies. He

1:26

encouraged the insurrection on January 6th. He

1:28

told them it would be wild. He

1:31

constantly undermines both democracy and the

1:33

rule of law. Thank

1:38

you, Molly Young-Fast. You get today's Eric Boulding Award,

1:41

calling out both sides. Do it both in the

1:43

media. Thank you. Can we get her on? And

1:45

you guys can bond over famous mother stuff. Who's

1:48

your mother? Erica Young. Fear

1:51

of flying. Okay. Hi, good morning,

1:53

Chris. I haven't read that. I'm sorry. We

1:55

mostly, let's review what we've mostly, why

1:58

do I have a paper boarding pass? instead of

2:00

just on my phone. And I

2:02

told you, A, I'm old. I did that in

2:04

the paper version. But

2:06

also because the guy that owns the show has

2:08

an uncanny knack for calling me right when

2:10

I'm going through security. Okay, checking that you're

2:13

at the airport. And you know we have

2:15

sexy liberal Minneapolis tomorrow, correct? Yeah.

2:18

If they're reading your boarding pass at that

2:20

moment, let it go to voicemail and call

2:22

him from the jetway. Now, then sometimes

2:24

you're paying attention. You gotta be a code

2:26

back in, whatever. I

2:28

have just Angela B. Sheldon, I have my

2:30

boarding pass. I'm mostly passed.

2:35

You were trying to decide your fashion

2:37

choices for Minneapolis in April. Right,

2:39

it's Minneapolis in April. And two weeks ago there was

2:41

a snowstorm, but it's gonna be like 75 tomorrow. So,

2:44

I, Jodi says velvet's okay,

2:46

and Jodi is the fashion plate of the Stephanie

2:48

Miller show. No, no I'm not. No,

2:51

you are. Okay. Why don't we ask

2:53

David Minneapolis? Oh, good idea, David Minneapolis. He

2:55

wore Daisy Dukes and a halter top to

2:57

the left sexy liberal. Sure,

3:00

he was playing Marcus Bachman, but you know, he's

3:02

a little suspect. Maybe you could go to- He

3:04

shops for clothes at the Harmar. Maybe you could

3:06

go to the Burlington Coat Factory at the Harmar

3:08

to pick up a nice spring dress. Okay,

3:12

all right. Hey, to Molly's point, let's get

3:14

her on and talk mommy issues. But

3:18

Viva La Vermin on Twitter says, I

3:20

know this sounds nuts, but I listen

3:22

to Stephanie Miller and podcasts

3:24

Monday through Friday, that's it. I don't watch mainstream

3:26

media. I listen to

3:28

Bob Sesca, Frangela Muller, she wrote during the week

3:31

as well, but that's it. I've never felt less

3:33

crazy. Thank you. This is the show, you

3:36

think that you're taking crazy pills watching

3:38

the rest of the media about this.

3:40

We're all crazy. Well, yeah, that

3:42

goes without saying, but that's because we have saved

3:44

other people's sanity, so we had to sacrifice our

3:47

own. Sure. Okay. This

3:50

is where I go for my jock

3:52

tweets. This is where I go for my sanity.

3:55

I'm going to have to understand the moment we are in. This

3:57

is... What

4:00

we're dealing with. Psychotic dementia layered over

4:02

low IQ, layered over long-term

4:05

drug abuse, layered over malignant narcissism,

4:07

layered over homicidal sadism, layered over

4:10

unquenchable blood loss, layered over a

4:12

life of crime, layered over treason, layered over

4:14

a complicit GOP. Thank

4:17

you, Jesus. Jock on Twitter. Thank

4:19

you. And that's just O.J. Simpson. We

4:27

know that he's talking about Trump. However,

4:30

you know, someone, this is Gordon on Twitter

4:32

actually said, all I have to say about

4:34

O.J. being dead is that Nicole Brown Simpson

4:36

was the tragic and unwitting pioneer of believe

4:38

women. No one keeps

4:40

photographs of bruises sustained at the hands

4:42

of their abuser in a safe deposit

4:44

box because they're overreacting. May he, her

4:47

and Ron Goldman memories continue to be a blessing. Yeah,

4:51

this broke during the show yesterday and all

4:54

I've tweeted or texted to my friends is

4:56

I hope Johnny Cochran's overcharging him in hell. Okay,

4:59

that would be my moment in sympathy.

5:03

Well, we didn't even

5:05

get a chance to talk about it a lot because

5:07

we're here in LA. We're here in the epicenter. But

5:09

a lot of people have also said there's a straight

5:11

line from that coverage to where we are today

5:13

in cover of this sensationalism. Absolutely. I mean, we

5:16

lived in the thick of it. Oh, I forgot

5:18

to confess that I said the dumbest thing ever

5:20

in the O.J. coverage because I was just a

5:22

baby. Just a baby talk show

5:24

host that I wasn't even remember. I came from

5:26

music radio. That was your first talk talk

5:28

show. Yes. I'm KFI. I go to

5:30

music radio. I'm going to do a couple

5:32

of jokes with again. Here comes Melissa. That

5:35

was it. So I've been doing like talk

5:37

for like a minute and the O.J. is

5:39

still broken. So I'm covering it with Terry

5:41

Ray Elmer, the newscaster of KFI and John

5:43

and Ken and Bill Handel. And

5:46

like we're covering a live Bronco chase and like,

5:48

you know, you're trying to fill time. And I'm

5:51

I don't know what to say. And I think I said

5:53

something like, well, we know if he

5:56

shoots himself or we hear it. I said

5:58

something stupid and everybody looked at me. I was like. I'm

6:01

just I'm a music DJ. I don't know. I'm just filling time

6:04

they got somebody had a gun to his head

6:06

You were like, okay. Well, it's like well,

6:08

I think we'll see blood or something

6:11

They got bill handle to drive into the studio Long

6:15

time ago. Okay. I don't know if

6:17

he was there. I can't remember. I know it was tea ray

6:19

Yeah, cuz I know it was right. I can't

6:21

remember what time it was. I was during my

6:24

time, right? Yeah, and so I don't know how

6:26

to hung out coverage of the Bronco chase anyway

6:29

Yeah, and I was telling the story yesterday about that

6:33

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You so weird We all were such

8:01

a tight cast and crew. We all loved each

8:03

other. And we were in

8:05

hair and makeup. And I remember that

8:07

moment, all the white people were like,

8:09

oh, and all the black people cheered. And look

8:12

at me. I'm like

8:14

little lame ass liberal. How many times have I

8:16

been called a race traitor and stood up

8:18

for people of color and civil rights?

8:22

And so I was not even aware of. But

8:25

somebody was putting in context that was

8:28

right after Rodney King, where you're like,

8:30

how did those racist motherfucker get away

8:32

with this? You understand, as Frandalo talks

8:35

about, it's a lifetime of

8:37

seeing it in equal justice. But I remember

8:39

I was saying at the time, Chris, I'm like, justice

8:41

isn't black or white, it's green. OJ

8:43

was able to buy enough reasonable

8:45

doubt. And also, a couple

8:48

of black friends of mine said the same

8:50

thing. I was thinking at the time, they're

8:52

like, OJ totally rejected the black community. He

8:54

only dated white women. He only wanted to

8:56

be at white country clubs golfing with white

8:58

guys at clubs that didn't allow black people.

9:01

I'm like, where did he earn all this

9:03

loyalty from the black community? I mean,

9:06

also, did I mention he's a scumbag double murderer? I

9:08

just thought I should mention that. He

9:10

was adjudicated that way in a civil court. about

9:13

the floundering, oh, and the floundering

9:16

prosecution team. And I'm like, OK, I

9:18

get it, Marsha Clark is a personal friend of

9:20

mine. They were not floundering.

9:22

They had a mountain of evidence.

9:26

That's not what this was about. Are you

9:28

kidding me? People were like, do you think

9:30

people have been executed on 1, 25th of

9:32

the evidence they had against OJ? I

9:34

mean, ah, and it's just, I

9:37

remember Dan Abrams, he hired

9:39

us for our equally even

9:41

shorter stint. On MSNBC?

9:45

He says he feels guilty about his career

9:47

being made off of that. Off of the depths

9:49

of two people. But he talked about,

9:51

could they get more despicable? Did you

9:54

see what Alan Dershowitz said? Yeah. He

9:56

said, oh, I feel bad for Ron

9:58

and Nicole. They've called me, first

10:01

I would have represented them. Oh

10:03

my God, way to admit that you have

10:05

absolutely no principles of any kind. It

10:07

was like, okay, well they didn't, so I

10:10

represented the double murderer instead. Oh,

10:12

he's always been a despicable piece of ... Anyway,

10:15

always my point. I have no idea. Oh,

10:18

it's the Dan Abrams said, he was talking about ...

10:20

They all knew at the time his defense team, they

10:22

all knew he was guilty. Right. They

10:24

said Johnny Cochran said privately he knew he

10:26

was guilty. Oh, it's just

10:29

the whole ... Anyway, that's when this whole

10:31

media circus started, celebrity and blah blah. Oh

10:33

my God, and I thought right to the

10:35

end, remember yesterday when this broke? Oh,

10:38

Jay tweeted not too long

10:40

ago, oh my God, a despicable liar

10:42

right to the end. He said, hospice,

10:44

hospice, I'm not dying. I'm like, this

10:47

was like a month ago. Liar. Yeah.

10:50

And to the end, and he quoted Trump in his tweet. He

10:52

said, as Donald Trump would say, fake news. I'm like, speaking

10:56

of white guys you want to golf

10:58

with and you don't ... They're just

11:00

despicable. Okay. That concludes

11:03

my OJ coverage. Okay, thanks. I am.

11:09

I mean, people, Gen Z

11:11

has no idea how massive

11:14

that thing was in the 90s. Oh my God.

11:16

Yeah. I remember being ...

11:18

That's when I met Marsha Clark at an event. Everybody

11:21

just like, steered off and was like,

11:23

oh my God. They were the first

11:26

legal ladies in the lab, Rod Mars. Yeah,

11:28

and it crossed worlds. Crossing

11:30

the entertainment. E Entertainment Television was carrying

11:33

the bird eye. Everybody was. ESPN was

11:35

carrying it. All of these

11:37

different channels were carrying it. It also was

11:39

responsible for killing the soap opera. Right. Yes,

11:42

it did. And that was the first

11:44

bit that Jay Leno ripped off from the United

11:46

States. The Simpson Bunch. We did the whole great

11:48

bunch thing. It ended up that night. Yep. Yep.

11:52

But the networks would carry it. Maybe not him, his writers. Yeah.

11:55

The networks would carry it during the day and preempt the soap opera. And

11:57

it was awful. And killed the soap operas. Yeah. I

12:00

remember at the time that we're going, it's not funny, it's

12:02

a double murder. And it's like, no, it's not. We're not

12:04

making fun of that. We're making fun of the circus around

12:06

it because it really remember the dancing eatos and it just

12:08

what it was such a. But that's what I thought. There

12:11

I understood people saying there was a straight

12:13

line that we've never sort of

12:15

recovered media wise. Um,

12:18

it gave birth to Megan Kelly. She was hired

12:20

as a, as a OJ, uh,

12:22

court watcher. Yeah. It gave birth to Dan

12:24

Abrams gave birth to Nancy grace. It gave

12:27

birth to all these people that are still

12:29

with us today. Yeah. Yeah. I

12:32

know. I mean, it was

12:34

massive created some swamp creatures. Yes. It's

12:36

still look, look, the earth

12:38

today. Yeah. Joe tweets a brief

12:41

summary of the American justice system. OJ got away with

12:43

murder. Trump got away with a coup attempt. Georgia

12:45

man sentenced after using stolen credit cards

12:47

for transaction at lows. Uh,

12:49

41 year old was sentenced to four and a half

12:51

years in prison. I mean, that's what people are talking

12:54

about. And so I understand,

12:56

you know, the whole dynamic about,

12:58

you know, black people cheering because

13:00

they're like, Oh, finally, you know,

13:03

but it just, what else did Alan Dershowitz as

13:05

if he could say anything more despicable, just shut

13:07

up. Could you load my shut up cannon? He,

13:10

um, he said something. Hang on.

13:12

Oh, please. Oh, please. I have it

13:14

here. Sorry. I was, it's, I interrupt this, this

13:16

Trump frenzy for an OJ frenzy 30

13:19

years later. Hang

13:22

on. I'm trying to get it. They do it. They do it. Oh,

13:26

hold please. Oh, what's going on over

13:28

there? For God's sake. Okay. He said

13:31

something about, Oh yes, you know, OJ, the little

13:33

done in history was something, but

13:35

then he said also like, you know, did

13:37

the police frame him? I'm like, Oh,

13:39

you know, it'll, it'll be debated forever. Did OJ

13:42

do it and did the police frame him? Will

13:44

not be debated forever. Did it. And you know,

13:46

he didn't know the police didn't frame him.

13:48

And was Mark from an erases despicable piece

13:50

of, as well. Yes. But Oh

13:52

my God. And he said, and I'll quote him for

13:54

you. I'm very sympathetic with the gold mines and

13:56

the Brown family. Shut up. I wish I could

13:58

have been on their side. You could have.

14:00

But I wasn't. And in the end, I think

14:03

history will remember OJ Simpson as someone who possibly

14:05

did it, but who the police tried to frame.

14:07

Oh my god. Shut up! Shut up!

14:09

Shut up! You shut up! Shut the

14:11

f*** up! Shut all

14:13

the way the f*** up until

14:15

you reach the top of Shut F***

14:18

Mountain where there are no more f***

14:21

ups to shut! Okay. We

14:24

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14:26

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14:28

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14:31

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her he did it and over the police framed him.

16:02

You know, the police didn't frame him. Oh my god

16:04

They didn't want to frame me. One of the frustrating

16:06

things is all the stuff that came out in the

16:08

civil tribe There's just like holy cat the

16:10

picture of the Bruno mollies on his feet

16:12

the you know, the carpet fibers From

16:15

what do you call it? His car

16:17

that were on Nicole since I mean give me a

16:20

break. Oh my god Yeah,

16:23

I remember yeah, I remember one of the jurors at the

16:25

time they're like, well, I just we just didn't feel like

16:27

we saw any evidence Oh

16:33

Blood fibers this

16:35

huh By

16:37

the way, so it case in point to everybody's

16:39

talking about the New York Times, but there is

16:41

a straight line, right from it, you know Speaking

16:45

of Despicable pieces

16:47

of but only want to golf at white

16:49

country clubs OJ and Trump Or

16:52

orange in Trump's case sure orange people clubs

16:55

The New York Times came under fire over its obituary

16:57

for OJ Simpson because of

16:59

course thing again I get that your push you're gonna mention his

17:02

football and movie career or whatever But

17:04

then in two different places, they said

17:06

his world was ruined after he was

17:08

oh No

17:12

Yeah, Nicole in Ron's world and the

17:14

Goldman and you know, what

17:16

do you call it a Brown Simpson's

17:18

family? Where were when there's a different

17:20

way to put his world was ruined after he

17:23

was charged How with killing his former wife and

17:25

her friend? Oh the waah, waah,

17:27

waah. Well, let me call a whambulance for OJ

17:30

It's the world should have been ruined. He should

17:32

yeah prison. Oh my god You

17:36

know someone I remember saying that about that,

17:38

you know, they were saying that they had like one

17:40

I don't know people have been executed

17:42

in our country on 125th of

17:44

the evidence that they had against OJ. I remember

17:46

someone looked at me They're like they will this

17:48

country will never fry OJ Simpson. No, he's you

17:50

know, he was beloved up until

17:52

that moment Yeah, yeah, I

17:54

said hi to him once at USC. I'd like to take it

17:56

back now No,

18:00

he was probably... I'm not that old! I

18:02

hate this! He was at... he was at SC

18:04

in the 60s. Okay, alright.

18:08

I don't know. I don't know how old

18:10

you are. You muddied the water. I was walking right in front of...

18:14

Now you're starting to believe the big lie. Yes! You

18:17

know what it is? You're like the Sidney Powell, the Stephanie

18:19

Miller show now. You believe it. Are

18:21

you Rudy? I can't remember. Anyway, I

18:23

was walking by Tommy Trojan in the center

18:26

square when I was at USC and OJ

18:28

was walking by and I was like, hi OJ! I

18:31

need that big smile. I was called in

18:33

there too, since you were in the center square. Well,

18:36

you know he's gonna murder some people. I

18:38

wouldn't believe. Okay.

18:42

Let's see. What? Okay,

18:44

okay.