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Here we are fine Thursday or Tuesday night, Sterling. These days have all

0:04

missed up from the Christmas to the New Year. I have no idea what's

0:07

going on. Stone Shields does still keep me in line. Lots of ground

0:11

to cover. We'll talk motivation and positive thinking in the midst of doom and

0:19

gloom in the news and social media and all around us. Plus in the

0:23

midst of legal sports betting's first year wrapping up when it comes to using your

0:28

apps and mobile devices and so forth with CPA Scott Fitzgerald. Little later tonight

0:33

too about the legal sports betting and your taxes, which could be an unpleasant

0:37

surprise to some if you're not paying attention. Raven Harrison at The Conservative Warrior

0:42

going to join us about the political fallout from Jeffrey Epstein's documents released that is

0:48

expected sooner than later, and a lot more ground to cover as well.

0:51

But to start, it's about m I C K E Y m O U

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s E. The original Mickey and Miny that is now in the public domain,

0:59

and guy who knows from public domain and licensing issues and patents, and

1:04

a whole lot more. Kind enough to give us some time back with Sterling

1:07

on the Nation Station is the one the only John Risby on seven hundred WLW.

1:12

How are you, sir, good? It's always a pleasure to be

1:17

here. Thank you, Happy New Year. Explain if you can, real

1:19

quick when it comes to Mickey and Minnie, how we ended up in a

1:23

place now where the early drawings or incantations of the mice is now up for

1:30

grabs and probably sooner than later going to be doing things that Walt Disney probably

1:33

would spin in his grave if he had to see in person. Yeah,

1:37

Unfortunately, it's going to be sooner rather than later. And yesterday the copyrights

1:42

on the original Mickey Mouse, that Steamboat Willie version expired and Mini Mouse,

1:49

so they both expired yesterday, and it's after ninety five years, which is

1:53

the longest term of the copyright. So there's nothing Disney or anybody could do

1:57

to extend that detection any further. How does it end up being ninety five

2:02

years? I'm kind of help. Treat me like a three year old,

2:06

and I don't understand. If I create something, I make something, I

2:09

put it in the marketplace, I get a service mark, I get a

2:13

copyright. I've designed something. In this case, sketches, drawings, animation,

2:17

mickey and many early on. In this case, you don't get to

2:21

keep that forever in always and hand out that down to your family. The

2:24

value, the earning potential no different than farmland or any other type of thing

2:30

in one's estate. How does it and why does it become something that anyone

2:34

can have at some point? I mean, it is confusing because it's called

2:38

intellectual property, right, and you think property doesn't expire, But intellectual property

2:44

is different because in the Constitution, Article one, Section one, clause eight,

2:49

it specifically says for limited time, and copyrights originally were just for fourteen

2:54

years, and then there's an extension to twenty twenty eight years, and then

3:00

fifty and then seventy and for corporations ninety five years. Now, well,

3:06

in fact this act hold on second, I'm sorry, why is it that

3:09

a person doesn't get the same love, care and protection that a corporation does

3:14

because corporations are people, I think I remember hearing that John Risby. Yeah,

3:19

so, well, if you're a real person, you get the life

3:23

of the author plus seventy years. Okay, So for a corporation, there's

3:30

no no life of the corporation but they get ninety five years from publication,

3:36

and that's a lot of people have referred to these extension acts as the Mickey

3:39

Mouse Protection Act because Disney's lobbied quite a bit for extension of the copyright terms

3:46

to protect their intelectual property. So basically, the muscle and the power of

3:51

the mouse is mighty compared to most of us. So previously so of all

3:55

the other entities, all the other creations in the peace people, the minds

4:00

behind them, and lawyers and suit and ties and great experience, and patents

4:04

like yourself. John Rizzevey was sterling on the big one talking to the patent

4:08

professor. They had that might to be able to go to the courts and

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fight to stretch that out to nearly one hundred years. They have, and

4:16

it's quite a bit a lot more protection than was originally planned for copyrights.

4:24

And now once they're in the public domain, it's up for grabs. Anybody

4:29

is able to do whatever they want with the characters, change them, put

4:33

them into new films. The only thing that they have to be careful about

4:39

is not to confuse consumers into branding, because Disney has kept their trademarks which

4:45

do not expire, so they can't sell goods or services and confuse consumers as

4:49

to who the rightful owner is. So you can't slap down on these old

4:54

drawings as a still on a sweatshirt and sell that because it could be confusing

4:58

to someone actually thinking it's a Disney property. But you could create another film

5:01

or some other type of comic that could go in that circumstance. Is that

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right? You could? You can't, you know, if you create products.

5:11

It's not saying you can't create a T shirt and put the Steamboat Willie

5:14

version of Mickey Mouse on there, but you have to make clear that you're

5:17

not licensed by Disney or in any way affiliated with Disney or else. Even

5:24

though you're not violating their copyright, you could be violating their trademark rights.

5:29

Now, as far as the new movie, they in fact, they didn't wait very long before announcing yesterday on the day the copyrights expired, with an

5:38

announcement of a Mickey Mouse remake, Mickey Mouse Trap, which is a horror

5:43

version that's supposed expected to be released sometime in March, but it's already completed,

5:49

so clearly a lot of people are keeping this date in mind. It's

5:55

been known for some time that the rights are going to expire, and they're

5:58

ready to pounce on the rights right away. And that's pretty much what happened

6:01

with Winnie the Pooh or some incarnation of the early Winnie the Pooh as well.

6:05

Yeah, it did. The Whinnie and all his friends went fairal and

6:12

uh started killing and eating each other. So UH, you know, and

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I this we've just seen the first of a long line of characters that are

6:20

starting to come into the public domain. We still have UH over the next

6:26

several years. Bugs, Bunny, Bambi, Peter Pan, Batman, Superman,

6:31

all of these are going to be coming coming to the public domain.

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So let's it, you know, it's We're gonna have to wait and see

6:38

if these dark versions of these characters, if those films do well, because

6:43

if they're if they do, then there's gonna be a lot of commercial interest

6:46

and UH of almost a new genre of of expired copyright characters being uh remade

6:55

into new versions of those characters and new films. It's an interesting thing when

7:00

you start utilizing other people's work, their creations and on their backs, then

7:05

you can earn by only creating something new using the same actual device for one

7:12

of a better way to describe it, which was the whole point of I

7:14

guess and early on being able to protect it was to keep anyone else from

7:17

utilizing it. How did they come up with these numbers? Fourteen, twenty

7:20

eight, fifty seventy ninety five years, just negotiation over time within the courts,

7:26

people fighting it out exactly exactly. The Constitution didn't, you know,

7:31

doesn't really provide much guidance other than that it's for limited times, the protection

7:39

for authors and inventors. So then it just comes to be, you know,

7:44

argued as to what the limitations are. And certainly the duration of a

7:48

copyright has expanded throughout the years. There is a lot of hope a few

7:54

years ago that it would expand even further past ninety five years and give Disney

7:59

a time to profit from the exclusive rights to Mickey, but that there was

8:05

no further extension. So I'm, you know, I think it's the safe

8:09

bet that ninety five years is the most were ever going to see for the

8:13

duration of a copyright. Talking to the patent professor as he's known, he's

8:16

a patent attorney, John Rizzavey was sterling on the Big One, Mickey,

8:20

and many early incarnations now in the public domain, now horror film soon to

8:24

be if it's not already out there streaming someplace, perhaps for a quick changing

8:28

of money and so forth over the years. I'm curious, is it like

8:35

the pharmaceutical business. I have a friend who works for a fairly large pharmaceutical

8:37

company and they're licensing or patents and ownership of medications is limited different years in

8:45

this circumstance, And from what he explained to me is that when they had

8:48

gotten to an end of one particular like antibiotic, what they were able to

8:54

do is sort of as he described it, and this is way beyond my pay grade and understanding. They reversed the helix, that it altered something molecular

9:01

structure wise as they put it together, which then allowed them to then sort

9:05

of re certify it and extend their ownership of that product. Is that the

9:11

same when it comes to other creations as well, where you can make a slight interpretation change to that or am I missing something? So there's different doctrines

9:20

you have in patents. If you create a new improvement and it seemed to

9:24

be a non obvious improvement, you can get a separate patent on that non

9:31

obvious improvement and extend your intellectual property rights to that patent in that way.

9:37

As far as copyrights, you certainly can have a derivative work which is an

9:41

improvement on the original, and Disney's done that with Mickey Mouse as well.

9:48

So the version that's in the public domain is the black and white version of

9:52

Steamboat Willie. But there is a version of Mickey Mouse where he has red

9:56

shorts and white gloves, and that's an improvement. So Disney was able to

10:01

expand their monopoly by copyrighting that improved version, but not for long because even

10:09

that improved version is expiring on January first, twenty thirty six, so we

10:15

have about a dozen or more years before that version. And basically all versions

10:20

of Mickey Mouse are going to be part of the public domain, you say, all of them, So you can't just incrementally start making alterations to the

10:28

way he dresses or somehow change in any character space or design that then extends

10:35

it and sort of lays it out there. Once that it all expires, it's just out there, and then that you hope they've created something else to

10:41

keep those money flowing in. I guess is that correct? Exactly? They

10:43

do need to keep and that's part of the purpose for the rights to be

10:48

limited, so that to keep pressure on to continuously improve and have derivative works

10:56

and improvements and non obvious changes. Intellectual property, how does it work with

11:01

music? Because I mean because I mean when I think about it, I

11:03

think maybe design and architecture, or or design and mechanical processes or systems.

11:09

I mean, there's a lot of layers to licensing and ownership and how it

11:13

may improve a construction circumstances, or manufacturing of some type of transportation, a

11:20

vehicle or train, whatever it is. There are some differences in the way

11:22

these all come together, correct, there are? And musics, it's such

11:28

a specialized area. Yeah, they bring in experts to try to determine if

11:33

another song that they copy or an improvement, if it's an infringement, and

11:39

you know, unfortunately we see a lot of those cases get they get played

11:43

out in court, and that's a whole different area of legal specialization within inelectual

11:50

property. A lot of layers and the idea of derivatives. I mean,

11:54

you could argue that you know, the first song, Yeah, after the

11:58

first song that we are aware of or composing, you know, property,

12:03

everything subsequently is derivative. So I mean it gets weird and dicey on as

12:09

far as ownership, I guess, and some bigger brains than my own, I guess have fought this out over the years. It's very interesting over time,

12:15

and you think about you know, children and grandchildren that are you know,

12:18

somebody created something and they want to be able to give them something that is able to take care of them in their lives, the same way it

12:22

would be if you started building houses or cars or something else that's actually tangible

12:28

that you can see, feel in touch. That gets deeper fast. How

12:31

much of this type of litigation goes on that we don't hear about, where

12:35

people are fighting over these things. So a lot of it you never hear

12:39

about because it gets settled out of court, certainly, especially when it's you

12:46

know, the alleged infringer is a large corporation. They are worried about the

12:52

impact on their sharehold you know, their shareholders, their stock price, their

12:56

imaging in the marketplace. So a lot of times the keys are settled without

13:01

anyone having heard of them. And if I work for someone else, or

13:05

someone works for me and may have a contract they create something like the classic

13:11

story of like the carbon paper guy or the post it note person who came

13:16

up with this idea. They were working for whatever company it is, and

13:18

you think, well, that's billions of dollars over generations technically, or however

13:22

long it is. And they may have gotten like a new pen or a

13:26

watch, or a fifty dollars bonus if they were lucky. Right, that's just the nature of business and the cost of working for someone else under their

13:33

shingle. Is that how that plays out? That is, and in fact,

13:37

a lot of companies now are requiring employees to sign employment agreements where anything

13:43

they invent during the course of their employment automatically belongs to the employer. And

13:50

that can get pretty nasty, right, Or if I guess you could argue

13:52

that you created something, maybe what happens if somebody creates something and they quit

13:56

and then they have to wait a window of time, and then the company

14:00

decides that they could find out that maybe you actually did it while working for

14:03

them, they might want to sniff out some of that cash and ownership to

14:05

get you later. I'm not plotting or planning, John Risby, I'm just

14:09

thinking of every contingency because I mean, there's so many ways that this can

14:13

be diced up and looked at. I mean a lot of facets to this,

14:18

and you'll see when the cases get litigated it gets messy there. During

14:22

discovery, they look at computer records, they pull phone records. So if

14:28

you're you know, if you're inventing at work and you're using your employer's cell

14:33

phone that was issued to you, and you're using their laptop, their laboratory,

14:37

their equipment, then that provides them with a great avenue to try to

14:45

claim that they should have rights to that intellectual property because it was developed during

14:48

working hours on company premises. They're certainly using company resources. And that's if

14:56

they don't have it in your employment agreement that the rights to to them.

15:00

But that's becoming very rare now that companies won't have an employment agreement that covers

15:07

intellectual property. And we've talked about this before, and I appreciate you being

15:11

so generous with your time talking to John Rizby. By the way, about it started with Mickey and Minnie in the original I guess the incarnations of them

15:18

which are now out in the public domain and we'll be seeing some creepy horror

15:22

movies and porn and who knows what else with that sooner than later. Talking

15:24

with a patent professor about it, there are a lot. There's just so

15:28

many layers to it. It's interesting. What have I not asked? And

15:31

what's like the most unusual thing that you've come across? Doing what you do

15:35

in relation to this before we let you bounce, because the mind wonders.

15:39

I mean I could spend hours just sort of sitting around and pondering this.

15:46

Yeah, well, I mean you get it's funny because then you know when

15:48

I was in law school, this is almost thirty years ago. At professor

15:52

that would say the exam questions come from real life, because the stuff that

15:58

happens in real life is than anything he could possibly write up. The things

16:03

we see in inelectual property, the theft that takes place, it's just so

16:08

important to get your rights protected, file the applications as soon as possible.

16:14

Be careful not to reveal your idea to anyone, because we've seen in our

16:18

field, we've seen litigation between spouses, husbands versus wives who came up with

16:23

the idea. Parents versus kids. In eelectual property, it's just critical to

16:29

get your filing in and make sure it's protected, because otherwise it becomes extremely

16:33

difficult and time consuming in litigation to try to iron out who owns wide.

16:40

It's like divorce and custody issues, but it gets deeper and nastier because you

16:44

get corporations involved, and sometimes people are incorporated too, which is a whole

16:47

other thing. John Risvie, I appreciate your time. How can people find out more about what you do as the patent professor? Yeah, so our

16:53

websites the patent professor dot com and that's our handle pretty much everywhere across social

16:59

media Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Just type in the patent professor and you'll

17:03

find it. Thank you for making time. It is thought provoking, quite

17:07

interesting, and you know so many people globally have grown up with the mouse

17:11

or some incarnation of him. It's going to be interesting whether it's twenty to

17:15

poo this, and over time even more of it starts getting twisted and morphed

17:18

in the ways that maybe you don't want your kids to see or certainly never

17:22

anticipated. I hear Walt spinning in his grave right now, take care of

17:26

yourself, John Risby, have a fantastic new year. We'll catch up with

17:29

you against Center then later, my friend take care. Always a play here,

17:33

Thank you, sir more Sterling coming back seven hundred WLW. A good

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18:06

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18:08

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18:11

matters? Do us here? Appreciate you being along? Sterling? In Garrett

18:15

Jeff Walker Off, good conversation about Mickey and Minnie. It got a little

18:19

weird, and I was trying to decide because John Risby, the patent attorney,

18:23

he's just a very serious, button down suit and tie, serious attorney

18:26

guy. You don't want to hack them off. But I'm thinking like Minnie

18:30

and Mickey in the early you know, designs in description sooner than later,

18:34

like that Winnie the Pooh horror picture that came out not long ago. I

18:37

start thinking really weird thoughts about Minnie Mouse and I'm like, I got to

18:41

keep that to myself. I don't want to miss him. Then Disney,

18:45

I mean who they'll show up at the house. I'll be in all kinds

18:47

of trouble. Seriously, Stone Shields producing tonight and later on we'll talk on

18:52

issues with taxes and legal sports betting. There's been a lot of that,

18:57

whether it's at the sports book, maybe an app or two, your handheld

19:02

device, maybe more than one app, where you've laid some wagers down,

19:06

maybe had some wins, had some losses, and what that's going to do

19:08

for your text situation coming up a little later tonight too. Jeff Carr locked

19:12

on Reds talking about off season moves, and they have been throwing the money

19:17

around in free agency. How close are they to being done? What could

19:21

come next for them? And boy, I can almost smell the freshly cut

19:25

grass in and out Burger hanging out in the desert waiting for spring training.

19:29

News time straight away your nine thirty reports, we'll talk on keeping your mind

19:33

right in the midst of a lot of bad news and crazy things going on

19:38

in the world on social media. It can get really weird really quick.

19:42

We'll talk to a guy who can sort of hopefully keep it all in perspective

19:45

and how to keep our sanity loc up. Pandya will join us about nine

19:51

thirty five following the news on a Tuesday night. Sterling, glad you're here.

19:55

Happy New Year to you. How long is it, by the way, appropriate to say Happy New Year? We'll get to that as well.

20:00

Sterling seven hundred WLW Garrett Jeff Walker. Lots happening later. Tax issues with

20:06

legal sports betting. Have you won some? Have you lost some? Are

20:08

you gonna get a ten? Nine to nine? And the man, what

20:11

are you gonna do with it? The taxman wants to know. We'll talk

20:14

to a CPA about that coming up a little bit later. Jeff Carr locked

20:17

on reds as well, and Raven Harrison on the fallout from the Jeffrey Epstein

20:22

documents released. All of that, some of which anyway might make your head

20:26

spin, might be like, man, that's craziness, that's depressing. I

20:29

don't know. Even though we're trying to help you live better, there's a

20:32

lot of negativity out there and on social media, listening and watching the news

20:36

that can bring you down. And someone who has some insight and perspective on

20:40

finding a good place, in the right mindset and staying positive as motivational speaker

20:45

known as the Chief Joy Officer. Look up Pandia. Welcome to seven hundred

20:49

WLW with Sterling. How you feeling tonight? I'm feeling joy, love,

20:53

feeling great. How are you feeling? I feel fine just hearing you.

20:56

How are you all amped up? Have you had a lot of caffeine?

21:00

What I mean? How do you do that? You know what? It's

21:03

crazy? Actually today I've had only juices. I'm on the juice cleanse right

21:06

now. So this is telling me a little tired. But it's all that

21:11

joy that's confuse in my blood cells that's coming out of me right now.

21:14

I gotcha, I gotcha. It's good to have a lot of those so

21:17

juices moving through keeps your regular Maybe I guess you're mind right, maybe happy

21:21

as well. I don't know what you're drinking, but I like some of it. Seriously, though, if you're on Twitter or x now if you're

21:27

on a Facebook, pick you know, Instagram even for that matter, wherever

21:32

it is, depending on the circles in which you run the information with analytics

21:37

that is fed to us and spoon fed because it thinks you're interested in more

21:41

bad things. Of some stuff you've looked at has been bad, it can

21:44

bring you down and with a quickness do so. It's hard to navigate and

21:48

easy to fall down that rabbit hole. What do you tell someone who here

21:52

we are of the second day of the new year twenty twenty four, is

21:56

maybe stressing with that or dealing with friends or family in that circumstance. Yeah.

22:00

Absolutely. You know, there's a term called doom scrolling out there,

22:04

and it's not only just scrolling on our social media. You can hear about

22:07

an event. There's a lot of things going on in the world right now

22:11

that you can get fixated on a particular topic and you want to learn everything

22:15

about it. Science tells us that we're out there looking for the negative things

22:19

out there because those are things that could be threats in our life. Whenever

22:23

we're more protedged states or even animals out there, they're thinking about what could

22:27

attack them, and so those stress levels go up, so we fixate on

22:30

those things. And so what I tell people first and foremost, especially if

22:34

it's social media scrolling, is you know, be compassionate with yourself. Know

22:40

that that's something that does happen, and if you get caught in that rabbit

22:42

hole, don't beat yourself up for it. It's all right. Second thing

22:45

I tell people, if you're want of these people that may wake up in

22:48

the middle of the night, or you just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling,

22:52

you don't know what's coming in through each post because you're following so many

22:56

different accounts, so many different people. So if you can't scroll off it

22:59

right away, I recommend today creating another account. I have one on Instagram

23:03

that only feeds me positive stuff, so I know that, Hey, if

23:07

I'm going to be on that account, everything that's feeding my mind right there

23:10

is full of positivity. There's not even inkling of negativity that can come in.

23:14

Wow. Yeah, go ahead, No, No, I didn't mean

23:17

to interrupt. I was just saying wow, because I'm thinking about it. It's like knowing when you have seasoning on the table. I want pepper,

23:22

I want garlic, I want salt, whatever flavor and taste you're trying to

23:26

get too sweet or savory. You're talking about basically having a feed exclusively for

23:30

that type of topic to feed yourself the way you would your mind is a

23:34

belly. Yeah, one hundred percent. Like when I scroll on my what

23:40

I call my positive feed, it's only a couple of posts that I get

23:44

in, I'm like, oh, I'm fed. But I don't need to

23:47

overfeed myself because a lot of times when people are scrolling negatively, they just

23:51

keep feeding themselves because in a weird way, hits this dopamine kind of receptor

23:56

in your brain. At the same time, it's bringing up the stressed anxiety

24:00

that we can kind of get addicted to in this in this environment, in

24:02

this world right now. But if you get to the positive side, you'll

24:06

realize very quickly that when you start feeding yourself the positive things, you won't

24:10

here to scroll that often. You'll see a few things You're like, oh,

24:12

I feel good. Let me move on to something else in my life,

24:15

or let me get back to sleep. You know, it's an interesting

24:19

thing because we need to know what's going on, and we want to be

24:22

informed in an awareness to what's happening in our community and at a national level

24:27

globally and very quickly. If you've focus too much on those big headlines,

24:33

it can really sort of mess with your head a little bit. In the

24:36

same respect, balancing that out without completely unplugging, I guess might be the

24:42

challenge the local pandja is joining us chief joy officer or motivational speaker Loca ponja

24:47

dot com. When you're in that circumstances. I have some friends and people

24:51

I know socialize with that They'll go from one extreme to the other with it.

24:55

We're either either completely disengaged and unaware or they're so involved that they find

25:00

themselves preoccupied with those things that are not exactly good foods for the head in

25:04

mind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know. I always tell people

25:08

it's good, aware, good to be aware of what's happening in the world.

25:12

But there's a moment where you figure out kind of the all the information

25:17

you need, and another moment where you're like, oh, I'm addicted to

25:19

keep on looking at all these different things and keep on looking at that negativity.

25:23

So they say, get the information you need. Know that it'll probably

25:26

only take you anywhere from two to three minutes to know what's happening on a

25:30

particular topic in the world. Then go do something that actually brings you joy.

25:34

You know, yeah, go if you feel like singing, sing if

25:37

you dance and dance, and if you like to do something creative, do

25:41

something that feeds your cup, play something, call up someone that makes you

25:45

feel joyful. Even if you want to talk about the topic. Taking those

25:48

two or three minutes on the topic, great, you understand it, you

25:52

want to talk about it, talk to someone else about it. Say I'll only talk about this for a few more minutes, and then I want to

25:56

see kind of how your day is. Tell them how much that you appreciate

25:59

and gratitude the foundation of joy. So just switching that mind frame from okay,

26:03

I got what I need to, let me go bring myself some more

26:06

joy is going to be the key to living more joyful life. With so many people being angry, so many people feeling like somehow they're either owed something

26:15

or something has been taken from them, there's so much injustice going on,

26:18

and it can be anywhere across the spectrum, from you know, high earners

26:22

to people that are quite desperate and maybe not, you know, doing as

26:27

well as they could be, should be, or maybe even need is just

26:30

a roof and maybe sustaining themselves with just the basics of eating. It's very

26:34

challenging to sort of find the right place to be where you don't preoccupy yourself

26:40

with with those things that don't benefit you. I think that's probably the best.

26:44

The best way I try to make sense of it is that you know,

26:47

you want to eat a balanced diet, and whether that's feeding your music, or whether it's feeding you know, your mind in other ways and information,

26:52

or whether that's actually food itself, it's very important and doing what you

26:56

do, I mean, it's clear that you try to maintain control of those

27:03

energies, those those I guess your state of mind and being. Is that

27:07

a fair assessment? Loka, Yeah, one hundred percent. You know,

27:10

my morning starts with breathwork and meditation. A lot of time I'm putting dancing

27:15

into not only the beginning of the day, but the middle of the day

27:17

and even mend the day because I just love I love to dance. And

27:21

that's not even just when you're on stage, when you're doing a show or an appearance or something like that because I see on your web page Locopada dot

27:26

com that you certainly are out there and very active on stage. Yeah.

27:33

Absolutely, it's what I'm doing on stage I do in my everyday life because

27:37

Janty brings me so much joy and so that's why I tell people you said

27:41

it best where it's a balance to meal, and so a lot of times

27:45

we forget to put the joy aspect into our meal. Every single day.

27:49

You'll take in the work, stress, you'll take in you know, like

27:52

hanging out with people or what's happening in the world. But if you sprinkle

27:56

that joy throughout your day, the more joy you do, the more joyful

28:00

you become. And so it's not about not taking in the information or not

28:04

experience as stresses the angers of the world. But it's making sure that you

28:08

put some level of joy into your day every single day. It could be

28:14

simply just going to a park. If you go to a park, you

28:17

just look around. It's hard to be in a negative state when you see

28:19

the children playing and people having a good time and the sun coming down on

28:23

you. So even selecting those places that bring you joy and spending time out

28:27

there is the key. It's having a joy routine, wil to let allow

28:32

you to be that joyful person talking to a motivational speaker, and as he

28:37

calls himself the chief joy officer. Is that actually in the corporate documents?

28:40

I wonder that's a good tie to look uponjo with Sterling on the big one

28:45

when it comes to feeding yourself information. When it comes to that state of

28:48

mind, as you talked about, surrounding yourself with people that are of like

28:53

mind is probably important. We can't always control that. Some people, sometimes

28:59

very close to us, seem to have that doom scroll mindset in general,

29:03

where their sweet spot is being angry, their sweet spot is feeling violated,

29:08

their sweet spot is being aggressive and not having the right I guess place to

29:14

channel that energy. And sometimes that can be too much, and I tend

29:18

to try to block those people out of my existence that or at least limited

29:22

because it then affects me negatively. Is that an appropriate way to approach that?

29:26

Or Am I off base? Yeah? So I think what you're speaking

29:30

about there is certain boundaries, right. So I have a concept called the

29:34

moths, flies and butterflies concept, where there's certain people in your life that

29:40

are could be the butterflies in your life that fill your cop up. You

29:42

enjoy your company with them, you feel better, you feel smarter, you

29:45

feel more inspired as being with them, or you just feel good. Then

29:49

there's the moths out there that just to kind of an energy sunk an energy

29:52

vampire that no matter what's happening, they're just pulling more energy from you.

29:57

And then there's the flies. The flies are just kind of there. They

30:02

could become a butterfly a little bit, or they could become a moth a little bit. And so you just kind of think about the people in your

30:07

life, and sometimes you have to have some moths in your life. Right

30:11

Sometimes there might be a family member, so when at work, and that's where you could say, yeah, let me block them out. But also

30:17

if they come in, just simply setting a boundary and saying, I know

30:21

these are some things that are going through your mind right now and you feel

30:25

connected to it. I just don't have space for it right now, but I want the best for you, you know, And you can even give

30:30

them some things saying, you know, I know this is going on in

30:33

the world, but what I've learned is sprinkling a little bit of joy into

30:36

your life could break that mo not neat up how it hits for myself,

30:38

and so there's only you can only you can't block everybody out. But just

30:42

setting that boundary is part of actually creating a more joyful life for yourself.

30:48

But making those buckets and saying, hey, who are the different people and

30:52

what bucks they fall in, and saying, Okay, I'm gonna spend more

30:55

people that are the butterflies in my life that bring me joy. You know, what's interesting is that sometimes you find yourself in the most calming and peaceful

31:02

or or you know, whatever it is that's feeding you good things in an

31:04

environment as you just mentioned. Maybe you're walking and taking a walk here at

31:07

Lunkin or down by the river, depending whatever it is, maybe playing you

31:11

know, the basketball, pickleball, whatever, And there are some people who

31:14

seem to just thrive and they are in that lane of hostility or disgruntled or

31:18

whatever else and they turn into as you described it, the energy vampire,

31:22

which is by the way, it leads me to the nice reference to the

31:25

things we do in the Shadows TV show, which is fantastic. I don't know if that was deliberate or not, but I'm going to use that is

31:32

we look at this. I'm curious, Pondya, how is it that you

31:36

find yourself in a place in your life to be in this sweet spot of

31:41

positivity. You can't always be there. You were, you born this way,

31:45

your family this way. What brought you to the point of being where

31:49

you are now with this attitude? Thank you for asking. So so as

31:56

every speaker out there are action names speaker, Everyone has a story in their

31:59

life. Mine started when I was thirteen years old. I'd lost my mother

32:02

to suicide. It's a very traumatic event in my life, you know,

32:07

and it's one of these things to where I had all these ups and downs.

32:10

I battled depression, I'd battle with anxiety kind of thinking about that event.

32:15

But I went into a space where I was like, I was tired

32:19

of these roller coasters. So I started seeking out help from you know,

32:22

a therapist, coaches, gurus. I went to retreats all over the world

32:27

seeking healing. In the middle of it, I found joy and I realized

32:31

that part of being truly joyful and being having that positive vibe is honoring the

32:37

heavier emotions of sadness or grief or anger. These aren't necessarily bad emotions because

32:44

we're going to experience them. And so when you have these emotions come up,

32:47

I learned that you're meant to experience them in a healthy way. And

32:52

a good way to actually release them is to talk to somebody like a butterfly

32:55

in your life that will actually understand you and just allow you to release it.

33:00

Another beautiful way to do it is journaling. Journaling saying hey, this

33:02

is how I'm feeling, and this is what made me feel this way.

33:06

I'm angry because of this, this and this, and you go down and you just kind of let it all out. At the very end, you

33:12

ground it in gratitude and say, hey, but I know this is happening

33:15

in my life. I'm super grateful for this pen, this piece of paper,

33:19

you know, the roof over my head, something you feel truly grateful

33:21

for. So that the more gratitude you sprinkle in, it just kind of

33:24

curbs that anger or that anxiety, that sadness. So you release that emotion

33:30

so that it's not stuck deep down within yourself, because you can compound that

33:34

emotion if you don't release it. And then grounded in gratitude, and then

33:37

after I say, after gratitude, just do something joyful and so but just

33:40

knowing that experience in those motions is part of life and enjoying that in a

33:45

healthy way. Thank you for sharing something so personal, but I think it's

33:50

important and it says a lot about you and your character to be able to

33:52

touch on that again, to get to how you ended up in the place

33:55

that you are. And we're all sort of a byproduct of where we've come

34:00

from. But to have such a loss and such a hurt that stays with

34:02

you, to lose your mother like that, it's hard to share. And

34:07

I can't thank you enough for doing what you do and giving us some time.

34:09

And I'm glad that you're in a good place and continue to try to

34:14

to do that and spread that joy with others too. The website is locapondja

34:16

dot com. I tweeted it out or on x at at Stirling Radio.

34:22

I hope you'll come back and maybe we can chat again about something else.

34:24

And considering it seems that there's so much chaos going on, I'm not going

34:30

to say the world's on fire, but it certainly seems sure as hell, Loka like the world is on fire. So it's nice to feel that way

34:36

it does. To be able to find something good in that is important I

34:39

think for all of us, so that we can begin again and try to

34:43

do our best too. Anything I haven't asked that's relative to this before I let you bounce. You know. The last thing I just like to tell

34:50

people out there is choose toy. Like every single dooy and toy every single

34:55

day. Choose something that will fill your cup up, even if it's for

35:00

a minute. Each day. Do something joyful, talk to somebody because the

35:04

more joy you do, the more joy you become. And it starts with

35:07

choosing joy. And know that you have every right to have joy every single

35:10

day. It's a choice. We make it every day. Thank you so

35:14

much, Luka Panja, take care of yourself. I hope you have a great new year. We'll check in again sooner than later. I take care

35:19

Starling. Be well, all right, a quick break, we'll come back.

35:22

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35:50

Warner Brothers. What's happening? How long, by the way, can I

35:52

still say? It's the second of January? So if I say Happy New

35:55

Year, it's not like overkill, right, I mean, it's still fresh,

35:59

it's brand new. It's like baby New Year. Now next week. If I'm here, which I will be at some point, I don't know.

36:04

I don't am my calendar. It's the only way I know how I'm

36:06

gonna be wherever I'm gonna be, when I'm gonna be there, you know what I mean? And then if I'm lucky, I remember otherwise it's been

36:10

in the he can be in the calendar and then I'm like in look,

36:14

and then you're in a world or hurt. But how long can you say Happy New Year? I mean you give it a week, you give it

36:20

three days? Is I mean you stretch it through this weekend and then that's

36:23

it. I'm not sure what's appropriate. I had a neighbor who this is

36:29

terrible, and it reminded me of a friend of mine who got stuck on

36:34

his roof. I'm not even our willy, or welly got help from the

36:37

fire department to get off his roof a number of years ago. Then it turned into a revenue generating opportunity and a promotion in advertising, which is fantastic

36:45

because that's the kind of place we are, and he's the kind of Marconi

36:49

winner that he is our willy. But another friend of mine fell off his

36:52

roof trying to get off the ladder, ended up having surgery and staples and

36:57

all kinds of weird. I think a plate in his arm and stuff.

36:59

And my neighbor this morning is that I was out with the dog, as

37:04

I do regularly. Otherwise he'd drive me insane or kill me in my sleep

37:07

or go in the house, and none of those options are acceptable. And

37:12

I run into my neighbor and he's hobbling along and he goes, dude,

37:15

I almost killed myself. I'm like, what are you talking about? He

37:19

was? I was taking the lights off the gutters and apparently he had a

37:22

problem. Like the ads have been saying about the latter being dangerous and I'm

37:27

like, why didn't you ask me for I was like, I'm not trying to bother anybody. I'm grown. I can do it. And I'm like,

37:30

what about your kids? Why didn't you hire somebody? And he's and

37:35

I think he needs to get some serious look at this knee or whatever.

37:38

And then he's like, it's time to get the lights off. That's after

37:42

New Year's And I'm like, the real cold and the real ice and the

37:45

real darkness in frozen tundra of winter has yet to arrive. I used to

37:50

be real serious about yank those lights down to Christmas is over. I'm ready

37:54

for warm weather. But I've opened up. I've grown, I'm more.

37:59

I figure it's your business, not my business. Whatever you do. Don't

38:02

be climbing on ladders when it's cold and icy to get the lights off my

38:07

neighbor built. It's not a good situation. I'm glad he was all right

38:12

to tell me as he was hobbling along with his dog talking to me with

38:15

my dog earlier today. But very unnerving either way. So I mean,

38:21

you know, you could be like one friend of mine. They basically never

38:24

took that one room. I think they had like in total like eight or

38:28

ten Christmas trees, and there was one room that it was all Christmas all

38:32

year, and I'm not sure. I used to think it was really creepy

38:37

and strange, and now I realized that perhaps it was just a place where

38:40

you could walk in and go, oh, life is good after all,

38:44

like a legal drug, and then take a breath out of there and then

38:47

shut the door and move on. But you know, and got to make

38:52

a choice for yourself, and you can't do that with a living tree,

38:54

by the way, because you'd be a fire hazard. Then that's another problem

38:59

altogether, and who wants to deal with that? I mean, water your trees if you haven't gotten rid of the trees, and then you can get

39:04

them chopped up and use them as mulch or just don't. I saw like

39:07

a number of them along the roadway in the last couple of days, where

39:12

apparently either people had them tied to the roof of their car or maybe in

39:15

the back of a truck or something, I don't know, and they flew

39:19

out. I can't imagine somebody just driving along seventy one and tossing a tree

39:22

out, but who the hell knows? Anymore strange days. Scott Fitzgerald,

39:28

CPA from ROTHINCOSCPA dot com gonna join us after the ten o'clock report about legal

39:32

sports betting and your winnings and losses and what it may mean for your taxes.

39:38

That's next, after your ten o'clock report. Sean Gallagher has it sterling

39:42

here on a Tuesday night, home of those Bengals, home of the Reds,

39:46

your basketball Buckeye or Bearcats, excuse me, and also, of course

39:51

those Xavier Musketeers in action tomorrow night. I think they got Villanova right here

39:54

on seven hundred w WELW, Cincinnati. You're sterling back seven hundred WLW.

40:00

The end of the year, the new year upon us, and in the

40:04

distance you can hear ten ninety nine's in W two's being printed in mass soon

40:08

in mailboxes electronically distributed, and the tax man waiting happily for extra checks and

40:16

maybe, if you're lucky, your refund and kind enough to give us some

40:20

time in a window of our history. The first year of legal sports betting

40:24

away from say sportsbooks and that type of thing, with handheld devices and apps

40:29

all over the state means a whole lot of people might have a situation where

40:32

they've had winnings and maybe some losses that could affect their tax situation. Scott

40:37

Fitzgerald from the Rothen Company, certified Public Accountants in Englewood. That's ROTHANDCOCPA dot

40:44

Com joining us on seven hundred WLW tonight. Scott, how are you,

40:47

buddy, I'm doing good. Thanks for having us, Darling. I know

40:52

that if you got Historically, if you go to Vegas, you throw a

40:54

lot of money around. If you get a big win, if it's over,

40:58

even if it's for the lottery, right, six hundred bucks, you get a ten ninety nine and that is income which you can then include in

41:06

your taxes, have to include in your taxes. Yes, yes, you

41:08

The actual form is a W two G. It stands for gambling, but

41:15

yes, it is the winnings and also will include any taxes that were withheld.

41:21

I don't know that many people if you're just a recreational gambler, whether

41:24

it's the lottery, whether it's going to the sportsbook. Now with so many,

41:29

I mean you may have multiple apps on your phone for that matter,

41:31

where you're you're working in, playing parlays or whatever else. Let alone a

41:37

trip maybe to Vegas or somewhere else in the country. How do you submit

41:40

your losses against your winnings? How does that work? Well, you can

41:45

take your gambling losses up to the amount of your winnings as an itemized deduction,

41:52

but you would have to itemize to take those losses. Okay, most

41:58

people Since two thousand eighteen, when the tax laws changed and the standard deduction

42:04

basically doubled, most people now take the standard deduction, so they actually end

42:09

up losing out on those losses. How much money does somebody have to have

42:15

in deductions? Does it depend on income? I guess that sort of goes into this, because I don't know a lot of people necessarily unless they're pro

42:21

gamblers, are keeping track, though the apps may allow for that. How

42:23

much money that you've thrown around and not actually recouped any winnings on? Well,

42:30

the standard deduction coming up for this tax season, it's thirteen and fifty

42:36

dollars for single filers. For married filers it's twenty seven thousand, seven hundred.

42:44

So that would include gambling winnings, gifts to charity, stay in the

42:50

local and real estate taxes, and potentially some medical deductions if it exceeds a

42:57

certain level of your income, and for most people it's very hard to have

43:01

that much of a deductible donations and so forth to be able to take itemized

43:12

seductions, because a married couple is going to have twenty seven seven hundred automatically,

43:17

and you have to exceed that adding up all those other deductions before you

43:22

get one dollar of benefit. So you may not benefit from the losses and

43:28

the donations because of that increase. Talking to Scott Fitzgerald, by the way,

43:30

from Rothen Company, a CPA as a Certified Public accountants in Englewood,

43:35

Ohio, was sterling on the big one. And the issue with the gambling

43:38

though, is that if you did have a nice win or an accumulation of

43:43

wins, say over six hundred, it's not just a single Hey, I

43:45

hit that parlay and it was a fat chunk of change. But if over

43:50

the year collectively you have won an excess of six hundred, you're responsible for

43:54

reporting that. Is that right? You are actually responsible for reporting the first

44:00

dollar of income from it. Most people to don't yeah. I had never

44:07

heard anybody so yeah, I won thirteen dollars last year. I made sure

44:10

Uncle Sam Nuke never heard that before. That's very common. But as a

44:15

CPI, I have to report the law of the States. Yes, you

44:20

have to report all winnings. However, the irs is not going to be

44:27

notified unless the winnings are high enough that the casino or online gambling site issues

44:36

at w twog gotcha. So will they do that collectively? Do you know?

44:38

Or is it just for a single hit and then it's just up to

44:42

us to be honest, sort of like when you buy stuff online whether you

44:44

pay tax or not. From what I hear, I don't know nothing about that. I'm above board, Scott Fitzgerald, you know that, Yes,

44:50

yes, I have not heard actually if they were going to do that on

44:54

combined basis for the year for the online gambling sites. But for casinos it

45:01

is only per transaction, so they once you hit a jackpot or a win

45:08

over a certain level, they issue you a w twog on the spot,

45:15

gotcha. So that's one of those before you leave when they ask you you want to check, or you're carrying your chips and you're looking to cash out,

45:21

or whatever the circumstances, whether any type of gambling, not just sports

45:23

gambling in that situation, So your recommendation For somebody is who may have multiple

45:29

apps, they've been going to the sports book downtown Cincinnati, maybe the Rassino

45:32

or whatever else, Miami Valley Gaming, pick a place around the tri state,

45:37

the Miami Valley, you name it around Ohio, let alone out of

45:39

the state. That's something. Is the state also requiring this type of thing

45:45

or is it just the federal government? It is the state as well.

45:49

And if you live in a city that has an income tax, it is

45:53

tax book to the city as well. And if it is one in a

45:59

city Cincinnati that has a tax, you need to pay the tax to Cincinnati

46:07

and then claim that tax against your local income tax if it allows credit for

46:13

tax paid to other cities. Gotcha. So what's your recommendation? And for

46:16

someone who may have multiple labs, who may have made several trips throughout the

46:21

you know, the football season with the Bengals here wrapping stuff up against Cleveland

46:23

Sunday at pay Corps, or you know, spend some time at Great American

46:28

Ballpark or pick another location around the state or elsewhere doing this because it could

46:32

accumulate to that much more, even though it's not that one big win.

46:36

Necessarily, what should somebody do. They should keep track of it themselves and

46:43

make sure the documents they receive the W two gs and so forth match what

46:47

they have in their records for winnings, and that should be reported on the

46:52

tax return as as income and have tax paid on it. It's one of

47:00

those things where I mean, this could be a scary thing. My guess is there's a whole lot of people who haven't paid that close attention to it

47:06

throughout the year that this is. We don't want it to sneak up on somebody. I had nothing to do with gambling. Years ago. I had

47:10

a ten ninety nine We even talked about this where I had received money for

47:15

a project I did. Hadn't remembered it. It was early in the year.

47:17

They never ten ninety nine me. And then all of a sudden,

47:20

I get that fat IRS envelope in the mail, which causes palpitation. Even

47:24

now I'm starting to like flop sweat and in fear of what might happen with

47:28

the taxman coming after you, even though I'm honest about stuff. That's a

47:31

scary circumstance. So people should be paying attention, should maybe go back through

47:37

their records if they're keeping them and what happens if they don't have any real

47:39

record of it other than the apps. That's a question where they're opening themselves

47:47

up for potential liability. If the IRS should be come across that information,

47:57

you could be audited for a different reason. The IRS looks into your banking

48:01

records and sees these deposits and they may ask, you know, what are

48:07

these deposits for? And they can catch them that way. But in the

48:15

larger scheme of things, the smaller amounts that people are winning, the IRS

48:22

isn't really concerned about that. It's not a focus point, but it is

48:27

still an area of potential liability. Gotcha, I just wanted to make sure

48:30

I'm sort of having people like reach out to me. That's while we look

48:34

to you at Roth and Company Scott Fitzgerald, Certified Public Accountant, It's ROTHANCOCPA

48:39

dot com. Was sterling on the big one. What did I not ask

48:43

in relation to this that you think is relevant that somebody should know when it

48:45

comes to gambling or any type of winnings. Maybe they got a piece of

48:49

that powerball the other night, or maybe whatever else it is that goes into

48:52

it. The only other aspect I can think of would be if someone wants

48:59

to try to be a professional gambler. This came up much more in the

49:07

Texas Holdham craze, where people wanted to be professional gamblers, and the IRS

49:14

came down pretty hard making sure that they could prove that they were actually in

49:20

the business of gambling. In that area, your losses would actually be considered

49:27

a business deduction, business expense. But that opens up another can of worms,

49:34

and the IRS is going to scrutinize that greatly. Is that a matter

49:38

of how much you've actually been wagering, So someone who may do it on

49:43

the side, who just likes a lot of action and throwing a lot of

49:45

money around, where that turns into something that could be a business expense in

49:50

that fashion or is that a rare, rare occasion. It's a pretty rare

49:54

occasion. But it deals more with the amount of time and how deep into

50:02

it you are. Not the amount you're wagering, but how much time is

50:07

spent on that. If you are traveling, if it is occupying majority of

50:13

your time, that is what they're going to be looking at, and you'll

50:16

have to provide a lot more documentation to prove that you are a professional gambler,

50:24

say Phil Ivy who playing on poker tournaments and on TV. Yes,

50:31

he is a professional gambler, and he has the traveling records and hotel stays

50:38

and World Series of Poker and Wild Poker Tour credentials to prove that. Whereas

50:49

you know the average soccer mom who goes to Las Vegas, you know,

50:52

twice a year for a weekend. You know, it's that's a side,

50:58

that's that's a hobby. That's not that's not what she's doing for her profession,

51:04

right, She's just hanging out in the poker room, looking cool and

51:06

taking my money probably, And then I'm looking at that's a loss? Do

51:09

I get there? Right? That often you go, no, no chance,

51:12

and I go Thanks Scott, Thanks a lot, Scott fitzgeraldat Great Information

51:16

Certified Public account Roth and Company Certified Public Accounts. It's ROTHANCOCPA dot com.

51:22

Thanks for making time. Hopefully we get some people out of trouble before it

51:25

becomes trouble and the people can know where they stand when it comes to this

51:30

tax thing. Because I already noted this point. The last numbers we saw

51:34

that have yet to be updated for twenty twenty three's year end was in excess.

51:37

I think if seven hundred million dollars already wagered in the estimates were exceeding

51:43

a billion dollars coming up with bull season and everything else. So somebody's making

51:47

some money, somebody's losing some money, and I'm guessing somebody's going to have

51:52

some winnings to maybe come to you with or somebody else like you doing CPA

51:55

stuff. So the irs is happy and not sending envelopes that are fat and

52:00

scary to the mailbox. They are scary that they are. I appreciate you

52:04

making time. We'll catch up again sooner than later. Sterling coming back seven

52:07

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52:12

man asking questions? You'd ask Willy? Who's the man ready to take down

52:15

evil with his lightning fast fish? So fury Willy, Willie Cunningham the voice

52:22

help up people every day. I'm asked, Willy, what's the point of

52:25

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app Doctor James and other stuff. I don't know, Claigon night down to

52:39

twenty seven forty five for your Wednesday hopdays. Some say I'm not gonna say

52:44

that because it's old tired, you know. Thirty nine for your Thursday,

52:46

clear, Friday forty two snow and rain showers mixed expected, and Saturday could

52:52

be accumulating snow in the dry state. You better check your snow blower,

52:55

better run to the Kroger and get your milk and your peanut butter and your

53:00

bread and whatever else, because all you have to do is say snow and

53:05

people lose their mind. I am ready for the warm in spring training in

53:09

the desert and goodyear Arizona and think about Reds Baseball. But that's not for

53:15

about what five six weeks off. But we will talk about the Hot Stove

53:19

League, for the Reds offseason moves and more with Jeff Carr from Locked on

53:23

red See how I tied that together? Yeah, because I'm a professional,

53:28

just braiding it like some hair and thought process. Here on a Tuesday night,

53:32

after your ten thirty of your port Chiff car Locked on Reds. We'll

53:36

talk to him later. Also after eleven, she calls herself the Conservative Warrior.

53:39

We'll talk to Raven Harrison about the political fallout from most documents that,

53:45

if not already leaking, soon to be fully released with all those names,

53:51

many of which high and powerful people, former presidents, maybe others, with

53:55

some sex trade workers, some under a very creepy stuff. We'll see what

54:00

any ramifications that she thinks may come from that, if anything. After you're

54:05

eleven o'clock report, good bit of ground to cover. Appreciate you being here.

54:08

Oh I didn't even give a current temperature. It's thirty two. If

54:10

you're keeping score at home, it's just of your weather station seven hundred WLW.

54:15

Let's get to Indiana, Bill with Sterling. You've been holding for a minute. Bill, what's shake? And appreciate you being here on the big

54:19

one with me tonight. Thanks Starling. I think I'm all right, sir.

54:23

What's up? Good? Uh? Well, the man you had all

54:29

before the CPA, huh. I don't be near as smart as he is,

54:34

but I live in Indiana. I've hit two five thousand dollars tickets nice

54:40

and Pick four lottery. Good for you, and you do not have to

54:45

pay federal Okay, you don't have to pay federal when you go into the

54:52

lottery office. Of course, anything six hundred or above you have to go

54:55

to a lottery office or mail it in. In my case, I went

55:00

to Indianapolis, and I'm sure the walls are saying Ohio or whatever state.

55:07

But anyway, you go in there and they'll they automatically take out the state

55:14

taxes and that was one hundred and twenty and this is a five thousand dollars

55:16

ticket, right, they automatically take out the state taxes which was one hundred

55:22

and twenty some dollars, which is ripped basically nothing, and they'll ask you

55:28

if do you want to pay the federal You say no, that you'll pay

55:32

it. And what you do is you go around to all these places that

55:37

sells lottery tickets and then usually they got a little trash can or something for

55:42

duds, you know, bad tickets where people scratch them all or don't save

55:45

them for you if you ask them, and you you stack up five thousand

55:50

dollars worth. Oh, I see what you're doing. So you're basically playing

55:53

a game of whack a mole, trying to find wagers that you didn't make

55:58

to make up for your games. So you come out cleaner, even though that that's shady as all hell. I don't want to get involved with this,

56:02

Bill, I get what you're saying that. I feel, you know

56:06

what, they'll be creepy. I bet that, yeah, but I bet

56:09

that I just your ticket. No, I got you. Now what I'm

56:15

looking here from two different sources, it says any lottery winnings over five thousand

56:20

dollars have taxes withheld, you using the federal withholding tax rate of twenty four

56:25

percent. But if it's five k right, five k are under correct,

56:30

five k are under, that's not the case. But Bill, I appreciate the call man, thank you. I'm not going to touch with one hundred

56:36

foot pole the idea of fraud and trying to say you wagered when you didn't

56:43

wager picking up the tickets that you didn't buy as losses or whatever. That's

56:47

between you, your maker, your tax person, and uh whatever else.

56:52

That's seems a little shady. It's a little dirty hearing it. I don't

56:55

want to be connected with it, That's all I'm saying. But I get

56:58

I hear you, I hear what you're saying. So there is that I've

57:02

had a number of people reach out to me say asking me what I think

57:05

of the Confederate flag in Harrison that's been I guess raised. It's right there

57:12

by the sign or whatever that says welcome to Harrison, that has the mayor's

57:15

name on it. That's gotten some attention. I guess the last day or two, depending maybe it was just today making the news. I've seen reports

57:22

on it. I haven't actually driven over to see it. What are my

57:27

thoughts? I mean, we have freedom of speech and expression, and I

57:32

guess if it's a flag that you're legally allowed to fly, it may look

57:37

bad, It may piss people off, It may not be nice. It may have negative connotations with some people, including some of my family and history

57:45

and what it meant. But it's all subjective. I say, I guess,

57:50

let your freak flag fly if that's what makes you happy. I don't

57:52

know what else to say about it. What else you're gonna do. You

57:58

can sound off if you want to. Five poet three seven four nine,

58:00

seven eight hundred, the big One. But I mean, you know, it's a free speech issue, I suppose. I mean, you could put

58:06

all kinds of different flags. Are there people freaked out about the guy who had the little devil dulled Nativity a number of years ago that I remember I

58:14

had on the radio. I think he was in Loveland or someplace. I can't remember exactly where he was, and people lost their mind because it was

58:20

like a little devil baby that was in a manger like for the Nativity scene,

58:23

and people were trying to say that it was against the law and inappropriate

58:27

and all this other stuff. But again, his property, his display,

58:30

he can do what he wants. Now if it's nakedness or some other violence

58:35

leude behavior, that can be something else objectionable. And if I'm not mistaken

58:39

from what I read, the Harrison mayor and other leaders there were looking to

58:44

see exactly if it was legal and inappropriate or not to be able to raise

58:50

that flag there as it stands. But I mean, you know, free

58:52

speech at all, don't have to like it. In fact, the free

58:55

speech is there to protect the things that we might find the most heinous,

58:59

the most offensive, the most hurtful, the most inappropriate. So there you

59:04

go. Ten third or report coming up news about what's going on around the

59:07

tri State and around the world. It matters to us here and the other

59:10

side Jeff Carr gonna join me. We'll talk on Red's baseball spring in the

59:15

distance. It's not too far off, six weeks out. They'll be in the desert getting to work hot stovely. They've made a lot of acquisitions,

59:22

They've been spending some money in free agency. Is this team ready to go

59:25

and set to win in twenty twenty four. We'll have to wait and see

59:29

Jeff Carr on the other side. More sterling. Glad you're here on a Tuesday night, seven hundred WULW locked on Red's ready to talk Red's offseason hot

59:37

stove action. They've had a lot of it, what you expect just a

59:39

few weeks away. I'm already thinking about warm weather and spring in the desert

59:44

and in and out Burger checking out some spring baseball, and that young Red's

59:49

team growing up a little bit more, coming into their own and a whole

59:52

lot of acquisitions. They have spent a decent bit of money in the free

59:55

agent market, four to fying pitching and making some other moves. And I

1:00:00

don't know at this point, hard to find a team that is, frankly

1:00:06

as deep as they are, with talent up and coming, some proven a

1:00:09

little bit and others green. But the anticipation and the expectation, I guess

1:00:15

it's what prospect or suspect until proven to be something otherwise as a prospect or

1:00:20

whatever, just the same. But I mean they are deep, whether they

1:00:24

make moves with these guys or they are able to retool them and give them

1:00:29

an opportunity to grow and to go into some other spots. I think this

1:00:32

Reds team is going to be dangerous in twenty twenty four. And they really

1:00:37

surprised a lot of people last year ending up where they were, which is,

1:00:42

you know, just over five hundred or what have you, which is

1:00:45

quite an improvement from being one hundred lost season game wise the year before.

1:00:51

There we go, we tracked down Jeff cart Locked on Reds. What's up, Jeff? How are you, buddy? I'm doing pretty good sturling and

1:00:55

looking forward to this season? Or are we six weeks away from pitchers and

1:01:00

catchers reporting? It's wonderful if we could just get to that point now.

1:01:02

I mean, I'm ready for a whole lot of basketball. In between.

1:01:06

It's just the cold and the snow which we expect Saturday, and the early

1:01:10

darkness that is upon us that I hate the most, but I'm liking.

1:01:15

Is it me or has this Reds team been ridiculously out of character aggressive in

1:01:22

off season moves and acquiring free agents to really bolster a young, budding,

1:01:27

talent filled Reds team. No. Absolutely, they've added I believe it's almost

1:01:34

fifty million, maybe a little bit more than fifty million at this point to

1:01:37

this season's payroll, and they've done a lot of good stuff really with the

1:01:43

moves that Nick carl has made. Because this was a market that if you

1:01:46

needed a starting picture, which the Reds did, you were gonna have to

1:01:51

overpay because of the pitchers that were out there and the teams that are basically

1:01:55

all in the same market, and not just overpay when it came to money,

1:02:01

but also give them long term deals. And I think that Nick Crass

1:02:05

set out with the express goal of improving the team this year without really jeopardizing

1:02:12

you in a couple of years the young core that's going into arbitration. He

1:02:15

wants to have as much financial flexibility to keep those guys around for as long

1:02:20

as possible, and so he's going to avoid those really long term deals.

1:02:23

And I think he did a really good job of doing that are they done?

1:02:28

I mean, there's been a lot of talk about the guy Sees from

1:02:30

the White Sox. We know that Frankie Montas obviously spent time with the Yankees,

1:02:35

the White Sox. I think he was with the A's too, who

1:02:37

assumed be in Vegas, which is not important except when you go to Vegas

1:02:40

or you're a fan. But I mean, Cease is obviously a high dollar

1:02:45

acquisition candidate. But you know, Frankie Montas is strong. Is that enough

1:02:52

or are they done? What do you know? I think they're done for

1:02:54

the big moves. Dylan Sees is a guy that the deals. And there's

1:03:00

been a couple of different trade proposals between the Reds and the White Sox that

1:03:06

have leaked, and none of them sound really that appealing, especially the last

1:03:10

one that included four of the top ten Reds prospects just for one guy.

1:03:15

It's really hard to kind of stomach that sort of trade and the way that

1:03:22

you would almost not necessarily mortgage the future, but you would seriously take away

1:03:27

the ability to continually throw these the talented young players at a possible championship.

1:03:34

And I think Nick Netcrawl wanted to avoid that, especially you know, you

1:03:37

talk about Dylan Cease, they were in negotiations with the Cleveland Guardians for Shane

1:03:42

Bieber, and then I think that, you know, Cleveland wasn't necessarily enthused

1:03:45

by the offers that they were just getting for Bieber, so they're like,

1:03:49

we know, we can get really good trade offers if we include our closer,

1:03:52

Emmanuel Class, who's one of the three best relief pitchers in the game.

1:03:58

But also that drives up the price. I think that Nick Crale just

1:04:00

looked at all of this and he figured out a way that sure. On

1:04:04

the surface, Frankie Montess is a guy that's coming off of I believe it

1:04:10

was laparoscoptic surgery to clean up some injuries there, and he didn't pitch except

1:04:18

for one and a third inning last year, So I really think that there's

1:04:23

going to be some questions around that. But he is a guy that has

1:04:27

done it before in one hundred and fourteen games as in Oakland a as a

1:04:30

starting pitcher for the Oakland as he in the era of three point seven.

1:04:34

So the dude knows how to pitch. It's just making sure that he's healthy.

1:04:39

And the quotes that Mark Sheldon had in his article today from Frankie Montos

1:04:43

himself saying that this is the best that he's felt in a long time. Good well, I hope that translates into a hidden staying healthy and obviously some

1:04:50

success which the Reds could use somebody with that type of arm if he's able

1:04:55

to get in there and be consistent. This team, certainly his is a

1:05:00

lot of young talent, and even Jonathan India, who's seemingly like long in

1:05:03

the tooth compared to a lot of these guys on this roster. At this

1:05:06

point, he was just Rookie of the Year a couple of years back,

1:05:10

has sort of been talked about as the odd man out with such a depth

1:05:13

in the infield circumstance and maybe moving outfield wise or moving maybe even then moving

1:05:17

him. But they had no real desire to get rid of him, or

1:05:21

at least to get enough from that deal to benefit the other team and obviously

1:05:27

themselves. What is he going to be working on outfield? Stop? What

1:05:31

is the deal with me? Because they're so thick with talent, I mean,

1:05:33

what do you do? I definitely think they're going to look for creative

1:05:39

ways to get his bat into the lineup. He's still a very good plate

1:05:44

discipline guy when he's up there, good at getting on base, and we've

1:05:47

seen the power from time to time. I think that it's fair to wonder,

1:05:51

you know, what we will see depending on his rookie season compared to

1:05:56

last year. I did see some nice, you know, underlying signs like

1:06:00

obviously the batting average and the slugging percentage weren't those. It was more you

1:06:04

know, quality of contact type metrics that show that. I think that he

1:06:09

was a little bit better than those numbers that we see up front give him

1:06:13

credit for. So I think that they're going to try him out in the outfield. My biggest concern out there is, you know, how well does

1:06:18

he throw the ball. It's been said before that his arm isn't necessarily the

1:06:24

strongest part of his game, So that's going to be a bit of a

1:06:27

question playing in the corner outfield if you really want to go, who can

1:06:30

throw the ball pretty well out there? But that, I mean that brings

1:06:33

into, you know, question, can you move a guy like Noel vi

1:06:38

Marte or a guy like Christian and Carnacio and Strand, and then the infield

1:06:43

moves accordingly, possibly opening up a spot there. I think that Johnathan India

1:06:47

is one of the reasons that this roster is super deep and super flexible,

1:06:53

to the point that you know, when it comes to spring training, we

1:06:57

know what's going to happen. There's going to be somebody that suffers an entry.

1:07:00

There's going to be some setbacks, or some guys that maybe look a

1:07:04

little bit, you know, like they need some more time or something like

1:07:08

that. But the Reds have so many talented players on this roster, but

1:07:13

I think they can absorb at least a couple of those scenarios. In Jonathan

1:07:17

India is a huge reason why just somebody messaged me about this so that I

1:07:21

need to ask, and I guess it's old news, but it's not old

1:07:25

news. What about Montas and he was suspended for a decent chunk of games

1:07:30

going back a couple of years too. That seems like old news to me. But apparently baggage in some people's minds is something to be concerned about.

1:07:38

But they still called up what is it sixteen mil for a one year deal

1:07:41

for him? Is that something that was discussed, Is that something that others

1:07:45

are talking about as being a concern or is that nothing. No, that's

1:07:50

not a concern at this point. He's good on that front. And really

1:07:54

the deal itself being a one year deal with a mutual option for a set

1:08:00

second year. I feel like this is a great opportunity for Nick Krawl to

1:08:04

add a guy that's kind of that bridge guy. Like there's so much talent

1:08:09

in the starting rotation with young guys like Hunter Green, Nicolodola and Graham Ashcraft

1:08:13

did you also have and your Rabbit and Brandon Williamson and then even the guy

1:08:16

we only saw for about twenty five seconds in Connor Phillips. These guys have

1:08:20

so much talent, but there's just not a lot of proven things there.

1:08:25

They've got to prove that they are good major league pitchers. And while they

1:08:30

do that, Nick Krawl was able to go out and get a guy like Nick Martinez who has experienced being a starting pitcher as well as a good relief

1:08:36

pitcher, and he brings in Frankie Montes And I misspoke. I think I

1:08:42

said Lapos guy he had arthroscoptric surgery on his shoulder, his throwing shoulder.

1:08:46

That was the wrong turn there. But all of that to be said that

1:08:50

he is healthy and ready to go. He's done this before. Nick Martinez

1:08:55

really feels like a really good bolster, a really good ad for this rotation.

1:09:00

And I think that Nick Kral has done a fantastic job of meeting the

1:09:04

needs that whenever the off season began we said, all right, you gotta

1:09:08

fix leagues. I think that he has found a different way to do it

1:09:13

than just throw hundreds of millions a dollars that like the Los Angeles Dodgers did.

1:09:17

Yeah, nobody's thrown that kind of money around. I mean, I

1:09:19

don't know, there's like three teams may have that kind of money. It's

1:09:23

a seven hundred million over like ten years, and then they deferred a lot

1:09:26

of it. That's just inconceivable. But then again, Otani is an alien,

1:09:30

so I mean he's like two players, maybe three and one. That's

1:09:33

a whole nother story. And he's not going to be doing much with that

1:09:36

arm at this point this coming season, so there'll be some waiting. What

1:09:40

do you think the expectations are that are realistic for this team going into twenty

1:09:45

four with these moves and with what was surprisingly I think success that we saw

1:09:50

considering what they had to navigate in twenty three I think it's fair to expect

1:09:56

them to add to that win total that they had last year, and I

1:10:00

think that it's fair to expect them to compete for a playoff spot, if

1:10:03

not the division, especially looking at how the division has not moved. I

1:10:09

mean, you're talking about the Milwaukee Brewers, who have basically just subtracted to

1:10:14

this point, and there's rumors of them trading their ace and their shortstop possibly,

1:10:18

and then you also look at the Chicago Cubs, who they haven't got

1:10:21

started yet. I firmly believe they're going to do stuff because they're not just

1:10:26

going to go through an entire offseason and the only thing that they did was

1:10:30

poach the Brewers manager. But I also feel like at this point they missed

1:10:34

out on some of the guys that they really wanted. They were rumored to

1:10:38

be in on show Halo Todi, they were rumored to be in on Yoshino

1:10:42

mun Yamamoto, and those guys both went to Los Angeles. So I think

1:10:45

they're a little bit sully with the Dodgers right now. But also they're trying

1:10:48

to regroup, they're trying to figure out what it is they need to do.

1:10:51

And sure they could bring back Cody Bellinger, but they already had that

1:10:57

guy, and with him they didn't get to where they wanted to go.

1:11:00

So they've got a lot to do to improve. I think that the Colonels

1:11:05

have done the most adding in the division, but you're talking about the worst

1:11:10

team in the division last year. So if you do all that adding,

1:11:13

that probably brings you up to the middle of the back. And overall, the Pirates are the Pirates. They do what they do, so I feel

1:11:18

like the Reds are There's nothing positive about that at all right away. Jeff

1:11:23

Carr from luck Under, the Pirates are just what well they do what they're

1:11:27

going to do. I mean, they got a great, beautiful ballpark downtown

1:11:30

Pittsburgh, and what you're saying is they're going to be not very good?

1:11:34

Is that what you're saying? Seventy nine wins probably what I think for Pittsburgh.

1:11:41

What about this because initially, with the expansion of the playoffs and the

1:11:45

wild card in Major League Baseball, I was kind of thinking it was shady,

1:11:49

and I had to say, though, I found myself riveted with the

1:11:54

Reds team and with baseball in general at that point. They kept it excitement.

1:11:58

The Reds were nut til last week of the season effectively, which is

1:12:00

inconceivable from what they did and where they were coming from. And it certainly

1:12:04

showed with ticket sales and ratings on radio and television, and that was across

1:12:10

the country in market after market. So I guess I had no idea what

1:12:14

I was talking about or thinking about with the expansion, just being maybe that

1:12:16

I don't like change, or something like an old guy, you know,

1:12:19

yelling at birds in the sky or something. Did you like the expansion too,

1:12:24

because I've was totally satisfied I did. I understand that there's definitely when

1:12:31

you go back in the history of baseball. I mean, there was a

1:12:34

long period of time where literally it was the best team in the National League

1:12:39

or wassus the best team in the American League, and that was it.

1:12:41

There's no division winners, there were no wild card winners. But they're not

1:12:45

going back to that. We're not going to regress to less playoff teams.

1:12:47

And I think the format that they've built now really encourages not only, you

1:12:54

know, the teams that feel like they can remain in the game, but

1:12:58

also it does a good job of keeping other teams from just selling off every

1:13:02

single player that they possibly can. I'm sure you're still going to have,

1:13:05

you know, like the Royals and the guys like that, although the Royals

1:13:09

have actually gone out and signed a bunch of guys this offseason too, so

1:13:13

who knows what they're going to be next year. But the perennial guys that are at the bottom, we know who those teams are, and I feel

1:13:18

like now it's a lot to distinguish who the teams are that are just going

1:13:25

to trade off their best players for any amount of prospects you give them.

1:13:30

And I think at that point too, if you're down there, you're down there for a reason. You don't have those types of players. So it

1:13:34

kind of makes the trade deadline that much more interesting, if not making it

1:13:40

a little bit less as far as like the quantity of deals that end up

1:13:45

being made. But I do like to expand a playoffs, especially for the

1:13:47

fact that I mean, we look at the last couple of World Series teams

1:13:53

from the National League were the final wild card spot, so that bears well

1:13:57

for a red team that is just wanting to squeak on in, that's it.

1:14:00

I mean, as long as you're in it and if you're in the

1:14:03

tournament, you got a shot and that's all you can ask for. So

1:14:06

I'm digging it too. Jeffrey car locked on Red So you do the podcast.

1:14:12

Also, Uh, Soften Baker still like around and doing that right?

1:14:15

He's is Stephen in Hawaii? For real? Is that? Is that?

1:14:18

Is that? Oh? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah? Boy? It must

1:14:20

suck being him, I mean seriously, especially now we're talking snow on Saturday.

1:14:26

The White Death is coming and he's going to be out there like,

1:14:28

you know what, picking almonds in like avocados and surfing or what. He

1:14:32

took a trip the other day where he left Hawaii and went to a cruise

1:14:36

in the Gulph of Mexico, and I'm just like, wow, you went

1:14:39

from one beach to another beach. Must be nice, must must be nice.

1:14:43

But yeah, it's it's always good getting the talk baseball with him.

1:14:45

You know what is it now? Five hours behind in Hawaii something like that.

1:14:49

Yeah. He always complains at the low seventies that he has to in

1:14:54

Deer around this time of year. Yeah, we won't be wanting to hear

1:14:57

any of that from him. Boohoo. And the little baby thingjeff car is

1:15:00

always going to talk to you, my friend. Good conversation, good insights

1:15:02

and perspective, and we'll look to do it again soon and ready for baseball,

1:15:06

that's for sure. Bengals aren't done. They got one more Sunday to

1:15:09

go with those Browns. Try to look good at pay Corps and end on

1:15:12

a high note and then get a winning record. But we'll catch up again

1:15:15

soon. Thanks for being here, hey, Sterling, Thanks for having me.

1:15:19

Yes, Sir, Jeffrey Carr locked on Ritch quick break. Not done

1:15:23

yet. Raven Harrison going to join us, by the way, talk about

1:15:25

the Jeffrey Epstein was it prostitution ring? I know some of those women are

1:15:30

apparently hostages or something too supposedly allegedly. I don't need a lawsuit. We'll

1:15:33

talk to her about the political fallout from that, and a whole lot more

1:15:36

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1:16:25

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1:16:29

is coming Saturday, they say the expectation one to three inches. That might

1:16:33

require a shovel, It might require a brush and a scraper. It could

1:16:38

very well require a snow blower. You might make sure that that that is

1:16:41

tuned up and ready to go. And of course, in case of really

1:16:45

the white death hits us hard because up along the east northeast coast of that

1:16:49

they call it a nor'easter. I have friends in the Boston area. And

1:16:53

DC and up into New Hampshire. That tell me they're excited about serious snow

1:16:58

and after they just flooding like in Vermont just a couple of weeks ago from

1:17:02

serious crazy heavy rains. Now they're gonna get snow covered too, So we'll

1:17:08

see how it goes. Friends are like, yeah, wait, we're gonna be snowboarding. You should come up. I'm like, see, that's the

1:17:13

way I like it. Though. You can go, you dip your toe

1:17:15

in the cold, you can visit the snow, you can have some fun.

1:17:19

Then you get an on airplane and you come back to Cincinnati, you

1:17:23

come back to the Tri State, and then I imagine warm, but that

1:17:28

won't be the case for some time. I should stop whining. Anyway.

1:17:31

We'll be all over the weather like a two ton heavy thing, because that's

1:17:34

what we do. We are the nation station, your severe weather station.

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Straight away, you're eleven o'clock report, and we'll come back and we'll talk

1:17:42

on the political fallout from this list of clients, from that Madam and the

1:17:48

Jeffrey Epstein and all the talk of all these dignitaries a big time maybe former

1:17:54

president or two Clinton or maybe Trump. I don't know who else may have

1:17:58

been having some extra or curricular activities with some people women that weren't necessarily of

1:18:03

age or maybe allegedly not even voluntarily, which is creepy unacceptable. And I

1:18:09

don't know what kind of paul politically there will be. We'll talk to Raven

1:18:12

Harrison, a conservative warrior, about that after the news. Glad you're here.

1:18:15

One more hour to go on a Tuesday night sterling for Gary Jeff here

1:18:19

with at and rolling after midnight. It's a news radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati,

1:18:26

because it could possibly get the crazy gets crazier Sterling in final hour this

1:18:30

Tuesday night, trying to make sense of all of it. The list that's

1:18:34

been talked about seemingly forever, Jeffrey Epstein and the talk of sex trafficking and

1:18:41

underage women and notable VIPs, former presidents and executives, and I mean who's

1:18:47

who. Supposedly some one hundred and fifty names are expected to be released and

1:18:51

available for anyone to spend time looking at. And the question of what it

1:18:57

means politically speaking for safe for President Clinton or Trump or anybody else who's on

1:19:01

the list, if it means anything at all at this point is someone who

1:19:06

knows from the world of politics, kind of gives some time again with connections

1:19:10

to the tri State in the Miami Valley. Spend a little time at right

1:19:13

pat as a young one. She is Raven Harrison. Welcome back to seven

1:19:16

hundred WLW with Sterling. Happy new Year to you. How's everything big,

1:19:21

same to you. It's great, great to be here. What does it

1:19:26

mean for anyone do you think that's on the list? The list at this

1:19:30

point, who is obviously someone most likely to be well healed, big money,

1:19:34

high profile after such a long period of time of talk about this,

1:19:40

the former Madam being locked up, Epstein allegedly hanging himself or whatever while in

1:19:45

captivity and locked away for all this mess, I mean, these are some

1:19:47

big powerful people in looking at history as we've known it in the last several

1:19:53

years, some of this stuff doesn't even seem to matter anymore, or does

1:19:56

it? It does, and what I think it represents the ultimate betrayal of

1:20:01

the American people. This list represents the who's who of corrupt and pedophiles,

1:20:10

and it is a shame and it's a really telling state in our country to

1:20:15

see how this has been protected. They have searched out and hunted down grannies

1:20:20

that were waving flags in the capitol on January sixth, But these people who

1:20:25

have made up to twenty seven trips to this island with underage miners has been

1:20:31

protected from the post. This island was it basically like fantasy island for freaks

1:20:39

and ne'er dowells and low lives looking to take advantage of young underage women who

1:20:44

were either forced there, kept there or what is the real circumstance. Because

1:20:47

I don't think everyone really knows. I don't even understand all of it,

1:20:49

and I've done way too much reading on it. It's really a creepy,

1:20:55

well it is, you hear. We've heard so many fragmented informations the consistent

1:21:00

information that's come out from people, including whistleblowers. There have been several young

1:21:04

ladies who are now women who were on that island who were blowing the whistle

1:21:10

on what this was. And basically they were there and they brought in,

1:21:15

you know, these high profile Hollywood actors, Royalty, British Royalty, former

1:21:20

presidents were coming, you know, onto this island to engage in the various

1:21:27

activities with underage miners. And some of them have made multiple trips, some

1:21:31

have been just a few. But I mean it's literally the who's who.

1:21:35

Nobody's exempt. We have musicians, politicians, British Royalty. It just it's

1:21:43

unreal. This list is not a who's who you want to be a part

1:21:47

of. Do we know if is there any legal culpability at this point?

1:21:53

I mean, I know, I think it's In New York they had sort

1:21:56

of a moratorium that was placed on the Statue of limitations for certain types of

1:22:01

sexual assault, where there have been at least several cases that have come up

1:22:05

and even I think some criminal cases over the last couple of years. Is

1:22:10

that something that we're looking at here or is this just going to be a

1:22:13

chance to showcase in billboard names and actions associated with this island of phil repute.

1:22:21

I think you're going to see both right now. You have the clamoring,

1:22:25

You have a lot of clamoring of people trying to protect and say faith

1:22:30

in lieu of these lists coming out, and you're going to have them throw

1:22:33

everything. Oh it's a statue of limitations. Oh we can't prosecute in days

1:22:36

that end, and why we know all these other jokes you're going to see

1:22:42

if people trying to get out. But the biggest thing is seeing our justice

1:22:45

system get back on track. Because there's some notable leaked names on there,

1:22:49

most notably one of them who's residing in the White House. How is this

1:22:56

possible? How is this allowed? But yet every single time this information comes

1:23:00

out, we get another indictment for Trump, you know. And it's just

1:23:03

unreal to me that, you know, our justice system, our political system,

1:23:08

everything is so compromised. We have got to tear this down and rebuild

1:23:12

it from the scratch. But the public has to know. You can't fix

1:23:15

what you can't fix what you don't acknowledge. Talking to Raven Harrison, a

1:23:18

conservative warrior, about the political fallout, maybe legal ramifications, not just egg

1:23:24

on the face of people that are on this list. I think it's supposed

1:23:26

to be about one hundred and fifty names about Jeffrey Epstein, the island,

1:23:30

and sexual acts, some of which apparently with underage girls not of their free

1:23:34

will. Just a lot of bad acting behaviors allegedly a part of all this.

1:23:41

I don't need a lawsuit, Raven, I really don't. I'm trying

1:23:43

to avoid it. But as we sit here and look at this. You

1:23:46

mentioned something interesting because I had this conversation with somebody off the year earlier because

1:23:50

they were talking about former President Trump and all the cases that he has,

1:23:55

and they made an equivocation like you just did, which is, you know,

1:23:59

finally this coming out, but they had kept it away in all the attention on Trump. But I don't think it's a this or that thing.

1:24:04

I think that someone could be culpable for one thing. Meanwhile, the Justice

1:24:09

Department or some element of justice at the state or federal level, eventually maybe

1:24:14

the pendulum swings and proper action can happen. It doesn't mean one is somehow

1:24:19

nullified or not as important. It just means maybe some people or multiple people

1:24:24

with power were able to sort of quash it, whereas the former president maybe

1:24:29

pushing the envelope down to a point where we could be re elected and then pardon himself, whereas these other people aren't in that circumstance. Or am I

1:24:36

missing that there? No, But I think it's important. You know,

1:24:41

people say all the time that President Trump has a lot of baggage, and

1:24:44

I say, able to left packed it. So the pomp is is that

1:24:47

you know, you have to keep it. And ultimately the bottom line is

1:24:53

what the Biden administration is doing with our justice system. Just take Trump out

1:24:57

of the equation. Let's put your name in my name in. This is

1:25:00

not how it was designed to work. It was not supposed to be guilty

1:25:03

until proven innocent and then kept in jail. Anyway, this is what we're

1:25:08

seeing is a different rule of justice. If you and I were caught with

1:25:13

underage or miners, if this was even suspected, there was a time we

1:25:16

would be hauled off. How are we protecting these people? How was this

1:25:21

not immediately released? You know? And why is it a two tier justice

1:25:27

system where it doesn't seem to apply to the elite. I mean, this

1:25:30

is disgusting, you know, repugnant behavior that is not becoming of us as

1:25:34

Americans. So why are we protecting the criminals? That's a solid question.

1:25:39

Raven Harrison, Conservative Warrior, was sterling on the big one. The website

1:25:43

address. It's Raven Harrison dot com. Correct, It is okay, good.

1:25:46

I just want to make sure we got that out there. You said

1:25:48

something that I think is fairly clear for all of us. And it's frustrating

1:25:53

that everyday people who are not of means when we're talking about super elite with

1:25:57

the power politically in some cases certain obviously connections and people with a whole lot

1:26:02

of cash that can effectively make it, I think, allow the justice system

1:26:08

to work more in their favor than someone who comes from nothing. I think

1:26:12

that's clear. I mean, there's a multiple tier justice system, right.

1:26:15

I mean, in some cases it's about socio economics and some of it's about

1:26:17

skin color in some cases. Historically, this is laying it all out there,

1:26:23

including the trade of individuals for sex, which is a different type of

1:26:29

slavery that our country has a history with too, which I think this really

1:26:32

stinks to high Heaven, at least my observation or hallucination raven it does.

1:26:38

And then we've got that, and you've got a wide open border that is

1:26:42

the sex trafficking capital. Right now, it's happening right on our state line,

1:26:45

and it's coming across, you know, across the board the border,

1:26:50

and we have to shut this down. But again, if we're protecting it

1:26:54

on one border and not the other, we have got to and we've got

1:26:58

to remember that. That's why it's so important. Whether you dislike Trump or

1:27:01

you like Trump, they can't do this with the justice system because it was

1:27:06

your eyes. Then all the government has to do is say you know what,

1:27:10

Sterling, you did this, and then they send the whole weight of

1:27:13

the justice system atterew. How do you defend against that? That's communism.

1:27:17

You have to be able to have due process, You have to be able

1:27:20

to have the rule applied and more importantly enforced. The laws have to be

1:27:26

enforced. Once we find out who was on that island, what happens next.

1:27:30

That'll be interesting to see how it plays out, because I think clearly we're seeing the former President Trump at this point being able to exercise because he

1:27:36

does wiel great power, he does have great wealth, and certainly has the

1:27:41

benefit of people making donations that have helped with some of these cases and the

1:27:45

legal expenses associated and even some of I think probably the Political Action Committee handling

1:27:49

some of the expenses that are inconceivable with all of the cases at the state

1:27:54

and federal level around the country that he's encountering at this point, whereas we've

1:27:58

seen very little of it other than the Madam who wouldn't talk and Epstein who's

1:28:01

now dead, who didn't do much in the way of sharing information either because

1:28:05

well, one guy, do you think he really killed himself? No,

1:28:11

so you think somebody of great power Christmas desparations or Epstein hung themselves. Yeah.

1:28:16

Yeah, See that's the thing I think. When you're dealing with people

1:28:19

who are at a different level, and we are not at that level as

1:28:24

these other individuals allegedly involved with this are or whatever, people disappear, people

1:28:30

go missing, and it looks one way or the other where most of us,

1:28:34

yeah, we would have been whipped through the system much faster and already

1:28:39

have been a story and a headline in the past that's already been forgotten if

1:28:43

unlike this type of stuff. Do we know the statue limitations and how this

1:28:46

plays out, Not politically because that's a whole other animal, but when it

1:28:49

comes to actual people who may have been engaged in types of criminal activity with

1:28:54

minors that were not engaged voluntarily, and that's where it becomes a little bit

1:29:00

of a gray area, because when you're talking about the statute limitations, we

1:29:03

have one here for our set of justice system. But this was Epstein Island.

1:29:08

You're talking about crossing you know, certain waters and out of certain territories.

1:29:12

People who were certain ages when needs occurred that are now in the whistle

1:29:15

flowers. You know. That's why I feel like we're playing a really dangerous

1:29:19

game right now. We're trying to run out the clock. We're trying to

1:29:23

deflect with other you know, crisises and situations. This is But I don't

1:29:28

think that that's a way out of this. I think everybody's been trying to

1:29:30

keep this information from coming out. Now it's coming out, and we've got

1:29:34

full lights, all floodlights are on the Biden administration. Are are we going

1:29:40

to see justice through or are they going to once again try to deflect this

1:29:43

and diffuse this and oh squirrel, you know, and uh and try to

1:29:48

We've we've got to now make sure that we hold seat to the fire on

1:29:53

this. This is not just oh wow, this is our government and our

1:29:59

industries are corrupt to the core, and everybody associated with that island should be

1:30:01

facing some kind of justice period. I think so. But you know,

1:30:04

you get into a place where it's its own place, right, it's its

1:30:08

own municipality, its own international water island circumstance, so law there is not

1:30:14

law here. It would be what moving people from one jurisdiction to another you

1:30:20

know, kidnapping or whatever else and smuggling in that way or something that would

1:30:25

have happened stateside, or did this turn into a political thing more than anything

1:30:29

that. I mean, it gets real deep. It's very interesting. I

1:30:31

want to believe, and perhaps I've had one too many blunt head traumas or

1:30:35

something. Raven Harrison, by the way, Conservative Warrior Ravenharrison dot com was

1:30:40

stirling on the big one. I want to believe that whether it's you as

1:30:44

president, or Trump or Biden or you know, fill in the name of

1:30:47

the blank, whoever it is that occupies the office, that the wheels of

1:30:51

justice, the Department of Justice does what it does and everything else goes about

1:30:57

its way, and it's independent. But the talk is that it wasn't that

1:31:01

way with Trump. It's not that maybe way at this point with Biden,

1:31:05

as many people want to believe, right. And then the idea that if

1:31:09

a Trump wins, he could pardon himself and then utilize the Department of Justice

1:31:13

is he's alluded to as a weapon to go after his enemies, which sounds

1:31:17

not like the United States to me. So, I mean, I think

1:31:20

there's a layer of this on multiple layers where there's a lot of wrong going

1:31:26

on and talking about it being corrupt but then acting just as corrupt. Am

1:31:29

I delusional on that thought? Or are you with me? Not delusional?

1:31:32

But I'm just saying, like, right now, you know they hid Hunter's

1:31:36

laptop, they went after people. I was one of those people who had

1:31:40

my social media accounts torpedoed for saying that that was real, and now it's

1:31:45

real to my information back. But no, he could pardon himself, Biden

1:31:48

could pardon himself, He could pardon Hunter, right, so we don't know

1:31:53

none of them should be doing that. He could pardon Trump. I mean,

1:31:56

that's what we saw with Ford is you know, and that's where we

1:31:58

are now. Is the idea of let the dust settle and the people decide.

1:32:01

But it gets weird. It really does explain to me. Go ahead,

1:32:05

I'm sorry, No, I was going to say, we have to

1:32:09

it is. That's why I'm reminding people the politicians who wrecked this you can't

1:32:14

heal in the same environment that made you sick. So the politicians that created

1:32:17

this nonsense are not going to be the ones who fix it. It's going

1:32:20

to be we, the people. We have to plug in and stop turning

1:32:24

this over and just going you know what, we hope they're not corrupt.

1:32:27

We have to make sure they're not corrupt. That's a hands on sport,

1:32:30

and that's how we fix it. It's a really depressing circumstance that we're in

1:32:36

a place where, regardless of political ideology, it's hard to find anyone who

1:32:42

believes in the institutions of this nation anymore and in them being solid and trustworthy,

1:32:48

and even the people who are employees of this government, whether at any

1:32:55

level other than locally, that they're going to go in there and do the

1:32:58

job for the people, regardless of anything when it comes to political angles.

1:33:02

And that's that's a crisis. I think of some type of consciousness in this

1:33:06

nation. I don't know how we get to a better place. Raven Wait.

1:33:10

I remind them because they don't swear an oath to Biden or Trump.

1:33:14

They swear an oath to this country, and I think a lot of them

1:33:16

have forgotten that that's what the oath is to we the people. Okay,

1:33:20

So that's what we have to do, and it just has to be people

1:33:24

like us on the front line who just keep reminding them we can get there.

1:33:27

It's tough, it's depressing, and it's start that it was easy.

1:33:30

Anybody could do it. That's true. And the reason that you don't have a British accent now is because the heart of a patriot is strong. There

1:33:35

you go. I really appreciate you making time. I'm it's going to get

1:33:41

weird here sooner than later. When these names are released, it's going to

1:33:44

seem more like TMZ and inside addition, then it's going to be like something

1:33:47

else more serious. But hey, my name's not on it. No,

1:33:50

right, let's go tell me this in short order. When they came at

1:33:56

you with your social media and everything else, what was that like? How

1:33:59

did that present itself? Because most people haven't dealt with what you just described.

1:34:04

It was horrible because it was mind blowing to me. I didn't think

1:34:08

that could happen. I had fifty thousand followers on my platform and I woke

1:34:13

up to a note saying I had violated something and they had taken it down.

1:34:17

I was they judged, jury and executioner. It's not the due process

1:34:20

I expected. They gave me fake steps to try to get my platforms back,

1:34:26

and you know, it didn't happen and realizing and then when Elon Musk

1:34:30

took over, he started opening stuff up and realizing that there was a consorted

1:34:33

effort to remove people who were saying things that people did. That's my first

1:34:39

Amendment right, And if they are publishers, they're not supposed to have,

1:34:43

you know, any kind of bias. So we had a lot of things working, but I didn't realize the system was broken. I didn't realize that

1:34:49

the parent my parents were both Air Force journals, that this what they fought

1:34:53

for was this, So I just it was mind blowing. But then we

1:34:57

kick into action. I didn't pout for long. Mouth is bigger, so

1:35:00

we ultimately we get it back and we keep at it. And that's what

1:35:04

I remind people is, you know, it's bleak, and sometimes it seems

1:35:09

start with that's what they want you to believe. They want you to believe

1:35:12

they're too big, they're too powerful, you can't win, and it's just

1:35:15

not true. And if you don't have resources, whether it's at the level

1:35:17

that you're talking about with social media or the legal issue, that they will

1:35:20

bury you in paper, which will then take time, which will take money,

1:35:24

which will bankrupt most people and that is a place that nobody wants to

1:35:28

be. I really love having you on and appreciate your conversation and your perspective.

1:35:31

I enjoy it. I hope you'll come back. I know you've got

1:35:34

ties, as you mentioned your parents and being kernels in the Air Force,

1:35:38

and I know you spend time in a Dayton Fairborne area just up the road

1:35:41

at right pat For a minute, you talk about learning to drive in the

1:35:44

parking lot at the Air Force Museum or whatever it was. I think the last time we spoke. It's just tremendous. Yeah, I've done donuts in

1:35:50

that parking lot with a friend of mine who wasn't working in the Air Force

1:35:55

some years ago too, but I can't talk about that anymore. So well,

1:35:58

I not only learned to drive, but I was driving a stick.

1:36:00

A lot of people this day don't even know what, can't even drive a

1:36:03

stick these days. And I was at Kings Island, you know, tearing

1:36:08

down the beasts and the vortex. So yeah, really really love it out

1:36:12

there, good times. I hope to have you back sooner than the later.

1:36:15

Raven Harrison, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it's Ravenharrison

1:36:18

dot com. Have yourself a fantastic night, a fantastically successful new year.

1:36:25

Thanks, Sterling, you too, take care of yourself quick break. I'm

1:36:27

not done yet. It's a Tuesday, Sterling atn rolls after midnight, and

1:36:30

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1:36:32

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1:36:38

to protect the children. Do you think it'll work, How we'll be implemented.

1:36:42

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get your podcasts. Wow twenty twenty three just flew by the law protecting kids

1:37:56

from social media will keep them safe. We'll get into it on the other

1:37:59

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1:38:03

the fire in Japan? All that and more coming up. Sterling seven hundred

1:38:06

WLW. Snow this weekend expected one to three inches come Saturday. I only

1:38:11

mention it because I know it's like a four letter word, snow. That's

1:38:14

four letters, and people freak out when you use four letter words. You know what I mean? In the white dead of the snow is scary for

1:38:20

a lot of people. All you have to do is say snow and people

1:38:24

like you know, slam on their brakes and lose control their vehicles. Please

1:38:26

don't please allow extra space and time and just contain yourself, is what I'm

1:38:30

trying to say. We'll be all over like a two ton heavy thing.

1:38:33

And maybe if the wind blows the wrong way the right way, depending on

1:38:38

your view, it could be warmer and it'll be rain, or we could

1:38:41

end up with more snow. That's why you listen to the nation station seven

1:38:44

hundred WLW and get in weather that you need, because we are your severe

1:38:47

weather station. There you go, all right, So come January fifteenth,

1:38:54

which is like thirteen days away, Ohio's new Social Media Parental Notifiction Act as

1:39:00

it's known, will go into full effect and it is supposed to keep kids

1:39:04

safer, kids sixteen and under or under sixteen from accessing and I guess finding

1:39:13

exactly what scary evil things lurk in the dark spaces of the Internet or at

1:39:17

least social media and social media STIA sites are going to have to comply in

1:39:25

some type of fashion to make sure that these kids or at least somewhat protected

1:39:30

from pedophiles and whatever other evil disinformation misinformation that you know it is bad that's

1:39:38

out there. I don't have any kids, right, I've been told I

1:39:41

act like a child, but I have no children. But if you have

1:39:44

kids, most of we have all been kids, I can tell you.

1:39:47

And what I'm wondering is, do you think that this will really keep youth

1:39:53

in Ohio safe from whatever is out there that could be causing problems, whether

1:39:59

it's a bullying, whether it's I mean, racist stuff, or or you

1:40:03

know, pick an evil, pick a bad thing. Will kids be protected

1:40:09

in some way or sheltered from this? The law requires these social media companies

1:40:15

to get consent in some type of contract, but nobody read. Here's the

1:40:20

thing. When's the last time when you signed up? You either put a

1:40:25

new app on your device of choice for your phone or whatever it is,

1:40:28

your tablet, desktop, you name it. And there's like one hundred pages

1:40:32

of legal ease about basically how they're going to sell your data because that's where

1:40:38

the money is. And in exchange for them getting your data about what you

1:40:42

look at and what you listen to, and how much time you spend and

1:40:45

what you shop for, and all your addresses and contacts in your phone and

1:40:48

everything else you can have use of the site, and that's how it often

1:40:55

works, and then they sell your stuff and then go out there. In

1:41:01

this case for kids, there's all kinds of stuff, whether it's you know,

1:41:06

stuff about you know, weight or race, or I mean, pick

1:41:13

something something political, whatever people out there looking to take advantage of kids or

1:41:16

otherwise, whether it's Facebook or YouTube or TikTok or snapchat, Instagram. If

1:41:23

I've forgotten one, there's probably some others I can't even think of, but

1:41:26

don't have time to go through the long list of stuff that's out there.

1:41:29

But my observation or hallucination is it's not going to do a whole hell of

1:41:31

a lot of good. And the reason I say this is historically kids have

1:41:36

been the ones giving the technical insight and advice to their parents for generations.

1:41:43

I was the kid who was able to fix the blinking twelve VCR that got

1:41:46

it fixed up for my mom and my grandma and uncles and cousins and everything

1:41:50

else. And then it became an issue of hey, can you set up

1:41:54

the computer, can you set up the DVD? And can you set up

1:41:57

the cable? In all this stuff marrying together and it continues. The kids

1:42:03

have the phones at an early age, they have a multitude of other devices.

1:42:08

My observation or hallucination is maybe it will help some who really will be

1:42:13

straightforward and honest with mom and dad or whoever is their guardian, and they

1:42:17

will take them. I would like to be on filling the name of the

1:42:19

blank social media site, this platform or that platform, and it's going to

1:42:24

say are you sixteen? And it's going to go no, And then it's

1:42:27

gonna want contact information for mom and dad. And then apparently mom and dad

1:42:30

are going to have to say, Okay, they're going to consent. If

1:42:35

they don't consent to the terms of service, the site is supposedly going to

1:42:41

be forced to block kids under the age of sixteen from spending time on these

1:42:46

sites of one type or another. Right how they come up with determining who

1:42:54

is the user under sixteen? If you're using the same device, if you

1:42:58

have another identity, uh, that's on there, just like this computer in

1:43:02

this studio has. Everyone who works here has their own identity or whatever.

1:43:06

When they sign in that way, they know what you're doing. So if

1:43:10

you do something wrong, big brother, Big Mama, iHeartMedia will come down

1:43:15

on you like a two ton heavy thing. You know, go, I'm telling it was for show prep. I was only looking at that because I

1:43:19

talked about it on the radio show. I was doing nothing wrong. And

1:43:24

then I'll have a meeting or I'll get an email, and then I won't

1:43:27

have access to the building. Who knows what's gonna happen. But when it

1:43:30

comes to kids, it can be worse. It could be somebody trying to

1:43:33

meet up with them and end up being like some type of weird dateline scenario

1:43:38

meeting someplace where they're going to show up and try to get with your kid

1:43:43

five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred. The big one, whether

1:43:46

it's looking at adult content being you know, porn sites, or whether it's

1:43:54

gambling sites of one type or another. Previously they're a little bit more serious

1:43:58

about it now. I think obviously with legal sports betting in Ohio and around

1:44:01

the country more and more, they got to be very careful about that because

1:44:05

there's a whole lot of money in licensing at stake. The idea is that

1:44:10

a whole lot of money in licensing and access to Ohio or whatever other place

1:44:15

with these social media platforms, is that Ohio could come down hard on them

1:44:19

and lock them out, which would be a huge loss. But if you

1:44:25

have kids, or you have a you are a kid, or if you

1:44:30

were a kid, And I'm just wondering, because my guess is this,

1:44:33

most kids who really want to find something in any place, especially when it

1:44:39

comes to media stuff like this, they're going to find it, They're going

1:44:42

to access it, they're going to get it, and mom and dad are

1:44:44

likely not even going to be aware that it's happening right until something has happened,

1:44:48

maybe more severe or creepy or uncomfortable than you would like. My guess

1:44:55

that's the case for many. I mean, do you monitor your kids access

1:44:59

time online and what they're watching you? Do you filter it? Do you

1:45:01

have parameters? Most phones, most tablets, most computers. If I'm not

1:45:06

mistaken at this point, I can even on this device in my hand here,

1:45:10

this android phone, I can limit how much time I'm allowed to be

1:45:14

on it, and it will basically say that's it, You're done. You

1:45:17

can do that with your kids. How many people really do that for them?

1:45:20

As what I wonder also five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred

1:45:25

the big one and to talk back on the iHeartRadio app, you can click

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and get me there at Sterling Radio. Let's get Dan Ann and Mike with

1:45:40

Sterling on the big one. Is this going to work to protect some of

1:45:44

these kids anyway? Because I think some kids would be honest and maybe not

1:45:46

push the envelope on it. But my guess is a whole lot of them

1:45:49

this isn't going to mean anything. It just sounds good, It looks good

1:45:53

and makes people feel good. Yeah, but mob of the attention, why

1:45:58

of this? And like, no, there's I don't know, you can't

1:46:03

ask their ID information, So I mean it's a big push for anybody that

1:46:09

can just lie about anything. Yeah, And that's the thing. I mean,

1:46:12

you sort of have some anonymity there. I mean, lets there,

1:46:15

what are they going to ask for a driver's license number? I don't think so, they're going to ask for an address and stuff. They already asked

1:46:18

for ages in that information. And there's a whole lot of people with a

1:46:23

whole lot of profiles that are not legit, not even including bots that are

1:46:27

all over multiple platforms correct. Absolutely, Yeah, so yeah, yeah,

1:46:32

they have not. I don't know if I can bring any of that up.

1:46:36

But there's other things that kids have the choice to do that parents have

1:46:42

no choice over, you know, I mean just as people, Hey,

1:46:46

you got to be of age to get on this website, but you don't

1:46:49

have to be of age if you want to be something different, right,

1:46:53

that's true. I mean, you can create a whole new profile. You

1:46:55

can just make it up, or you can just click yes and say it

1:46:57

is. I mean, you could put information. How are they going to find out out? Are they searching? What records? Are they searching to

1:47:01

verify that you or you really? Right? So I think it's kind of

1:47:05

a pointless thing and it's just smokes and mirrors. That's what I figure it

1:47:11

is. I hope it has some teeth in it, because I mean,

1:47:13

you hear these horrible stories, and even some of it's anecdotal, but there's

1:47:16

enough of it here or there that you you know, every once in a

1:47:18

while it's a headline you'll hear in the news. You know, Taron Johnson

1:47:23

or Matt Reeves or Jack Crumley, you pick a person you know on TV

1:47:26

whatever, and there's a story about a kid and a family that got violated

1:47:30

and something horrible happened, and it's because they met somebody on a social media

1:47:32

platform and they end up in a car someplace and Lord only knows what happens.

1:47:36

It's it's pretty creepy and pretty scary, Mike. I appreciate the call,

1:47:40

James, that your turner with Sterling seven four ninety seven, eight hundred.

1:47:44

The big one is this new social media parental consent platform protection thing gonna

1:47:48

do something good? Do you think? Or no? No, it's all

1:47:54

balloona because the kids are gonna find a way or in it. They're smarter

1:47:57

than anybody else that's involved in it. And the thing that gets me is

1:48:03

the line passes that thing through, but then he doesn't pass through this thing

1:48:11

where the kids can still get their junk cut off. Everything's upside down.

1:48:15

Well, but again, I don't know how many kids are affected by that

1:48:18

way, less I would think than social media issues. And you could argue

1:48:23

that the idea of a government staying out of mommy and daddy's way when it

1:48:27

comes to their medical care for their children is probably a good idea, because

1:48:30

I don't trust a lot of lawmakers to do the basics. Let alone get

1:48:33

into your life, your kid's life, or mine. I mean, am

1:48:36

I crazy in that thought? Yeah? Because metical that's not medical care,

1:48:42

letting kids get their junk cut off and change what they think they are.

1:48:45

But if you had a cost reality, but if you had a consultation with

1:48:48

a physician or a psychologist about it, as those in the five children's hospitals

1:48:51

around Ohio have, respectfully, Well, I know I understand morality. I'm

1:49:02

not discoting that, but that's not neither here there. Hold on a second,

1:49:06

respectfully, James, My morality and your morality may be the same,

1:49:11

but our neighbors may have a different idea about what the circumstances for them and

1:49:15

their children. And if they have something going on and they've sought counsel medical

1:49:20

professionals, then it should be their business, right unless it crosses alone.

1:49:26

No, Yeah, they're still right and wrong and they're still good and evil.

1:49:30

Well, I'm not saying you difference, right, but again, who

1:49:34

is the government to tell you? Because you're arbitrarily saying then if it's a

1:49:39

bunch of other people who are elected to office that it's up to them then

1:49:42

to determine if you disagree with them, they may have a different view of

1:49:45

what's moral and just different than what the medical professionals may say is right mentally

1:49:51

and physically for that child their family to make a decision counseling together. Don't

1:49:56

you agree, No, because become adults and make their own decision right,

1:50:02

because those decisions that children influence their parents make. With the stupid idea that

1:50:10

do you want to a live mutilated child or a dead child is just ridiculous.

1:50:16

How many of those would be in a case? Do you know?

1:50:20

No? I don't. But people got to get some backbone and stand up

1:50:24

for what's right. Let them become adults. Then they can cut theirselves.

1:50:27

I get you. I know you like to be talking about the people cutting

1:50:30

the junk off. I think there's a little bit more to it than that, and I respect. But here's the thing, James, you and I

1:50:34

can keep our kids from that if we don't believe in that, or the

1:50:38

medical professional says, you know what, this kid's going to be, Okay,

1:50:40

give them some time. That's not really the point of this conversation.

1:50:44

Seemingly, when you look at the news around the country, there are probably

1:50:48

very easily in the next month more kids affected by predators on social media than

1:50:54

in the last five years have had anything done in relation to what you're talking

1:50:59

about, which is under reassignment or anything else along those lines. But again,

1:51:04

one is not the other when it comes to this. But I get

1:51:06

what you're saying, James, and we can respectfully disagree in the other part.

1:51:11

I just really am of the opinion that if we're going to keep the

1:51:15

government out of our lives, then we keep the government out of our lives. Because you may decide a different opinion than what the next person who's in

1:51:23

office decides is appropriate, and then your morality and their morality because they're a

1:51:29

different political party or a different faith, a different religion, a different perspective,

1:51:32

will have a different idea. So better the parents take care of their

1:51:36

kids, with their doctors, their counselors than somebody else arbitrarily saying no,

1:51:41

this is the way we're going to do it. My observation or hallucination.

1:51:45

The governor certainly feels that way. All those medical professionals who spoke regularly from

1:51:50

five children's hospitals of note in the state of Ohio disagreed with your viewpoint also,

1:51:56

but it's not the same as social media issues would for what we're talking

1:52:00

about. But everything, I guess is somewhat interrelated. Five point three seven

1:52:04

four nine seven thousand, eight hundred The Big One. I think we could

1:52:08

separate that. I don't think they're the same argument. I don't think it's

1:52:11

the same conversation, respectfully, and I think we all want kids to be

1:52:15

safe and secure, to grow up, to be able to fulfill their dreams,

1:52:19

their wants, their needs to the best reality and level of success in

1:52:23

their life that they can and do it healthily and away from people who may

1:52:28

prey upon them on social media. My question is good faith, good plan,

1:52:33

good idea, But I don't know how in practical terms overall this idea

1:52:40

of a parental consent in an online form can be corroborated, confirmed, verified,

1:52:45

that's really going to work in mass Some kids may be protected, and

1:52:48

I guess some is better than none. What do you think? Five point

1:52:51

three seven four nine seven thousand, eight hundred The Big One. It's sterling

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the Browns and maybe the Browns rest some people. Bengals playing for pride,

1:53:24

maybe some guys playing for jobs, opportunities, maybe a contract or two,

1:53:28

maybe the last time we see some Bengals who may look to move on elsewhere,

1:53:30

because budgets are budgets, and you know, development of talent is what

1:53:34

it is, and they're going to try to make it a winning season.

1:53:39

And what a tumultuous and surprisingly successful year altogether they could end up with a

1:53:45

winning record after Burrow with the calf, Burrow with the wrist, I mean

1:53:48

a number of other injuries, and the guys that have been out intermittently and

1:53:53

you know, the next guy up, next guy up, kind of scenario.

1:53:56

In the overall spectacular performance of the Jake Browning as a backup quarterback for

1:54:01

the Bengals is that they've done. What they've done to this point is really

1:54:06

shocking, and they really were not that far away from maybe some questionable decisions

1:54:13

in play calling and definitely some bad penalties and officiating issues that maybe they shouldn't

1:54:18

have been in that circumstance, arguably in the first place, that helped lead

1:54:23

them to a loss in Kansas City. But flat out, I mean,

1:54:26

you know, Chiefs, it's been tough last couple of years. Obviously,

1:54:30

it's been one of those battles. And they'll meet each other again next season

1:54:32

two during the regular season, as they just released that schedule in the last

1:54:38

day or two. But we'll say goodbye to what has been a pretty awesome

1:54:43

year. I think overall, I mean, as much as you can't be

1:54:45

I mean, the expectations were high. You know what it is is I've

1:54:48

already tried to like compartmentalize it and look at it because I was frankly shocked

1:54:53

that they did as well as they did with Browning. Nothing against him,

1:54:57

I think he stood up and shown himself to be a hell of a quarterback

1:55:00

and thrown into a situation right in the middle of it at a difficult time,

1:55:03

and you know, tough, tough, tough times. And the Bengals

1:55:08

now you know where they are, and we'll see what that means for them

1:55:12

personnel wise after Sunday. But hopefully a win, and that would be good

1:55:16

in the Browns. It's not going to make any difference where they seed for

1:55:19

the postseason or the playoff circumstance. We'll see. Red's just a few weeks

1:55:23

away. We talked to Jeffrey Carter earlier Locked on Regie can listen to the

1:55:26

podcast about the Hot Stove League and all the off season acquisitions, which was

1:55:30

pretty good. Something Else also a podcast you might be worth checking out Scott

1:55:34

Fitzgerald from Roth and Company CPA, talking about the legal sports betting and the

1:55:41

issues with taxes. You may have accrued some losses throughout the year, depending

1:55:45

on how much you've been playing or at the sportsbook or whatever, maybe multiple

1:55:48

different you know, apps or sports books that you've spent time with, depending

1:55:53

and depending on what you've won, and then obviously what you've had to lost

1:55:58

is an entertainment expense. You could find yourself in a situation where it might

1:56:01

make sense to pay a little attention to declaration of winnings and losses on your

1:56:08

taxes, whether it helps you or not. You don't want to get that

1:56:12

fat envelope in the mail from the irs. You definitely don't want that something

1:56:18

else too. This is wild. It would have been something more exciting to

1:56:23

talk about had the Bengals been still in a shot at or already into the

1:56:28

postseason and playoff picture in the NFL. But Vegas is we were talking about

1:56:32

government involvement in parental decision making, whether it's the consent issue for social media

1:56:39

platforms and youth to protect them or I think it was James who called and

1:56:44

was quite passionate about the idea that the governor should not have vetoed that bill

1:56:50

as far as kids and sex change stuff or identity issue and everything else.

1:56:58

It's certainly a very effective topic and about government intervention in our lives. While

1:57:03

now stopping and standing on the strip in Vegas on those pedestrian bridges, if

1:57:10

I know a lot of people who I mean, I used to live there.

1:57:12

I used to go visit a time or two a year, and then

1:57:14

I ended up working and living out there for a minute before coming back to

1:57:17

the Tri State. And I've made my walk through there. You see those

1:57:23

hooker trading cards. People clapping those cards a little teeny. It looks like

1:57:27

a baseball cards, right, or football cards, but they're stripper trading cards

1:57:30

or hooker trading cards. You can see those people all around, and a

1:57:33

lot of people like to stop and take pictures. They say that stopping a

1:57:38

strip pedestrian bridge traffic from becoming a nuisance and a danger. The idea is

1:57:45

they got people pretty upset at this point, is that if you're coming up

1:57:48

towards like some of the escalators or steps, that they want that traffic moving,

1:57:53

which what makes sense because people stop and they're they're disoriented, they're distracted,

1:57:58

they're confused with all the flashing light in traffic and everything that is Las

1:58:01

Vegas. It's like a playland, to be honest with you, for adults,

1:58:05

and they want to keep people safe so they're not mowed over by pedestrians

1:58:11

or something along those lines, or maybe some type of terrorist problem too.

1:58:15

Now that you can write tickets and charge people, I think it's one hundred

1:58:18

and fifty dollars up to actually it's up to one thousand dollars six months in

1:58:24

jail if in fact it's a repeated issue as far as stopping and causing some

1:58:30

type of delay on those pedestrian bridges. So if you're going to Vegas,

1:58:33

keep that in mind. Previously, you see all kinds of people stopping here

1:58:38

or there otherwise, so we'll see how it goes in the days ahead.

1:58:43

I can tell you that Kevin Gordon is going to behind the wheel of America's

1:58:45

truck and Network. Following your midnight report, Tarren Johnson has an ABC News

1:58:50

and everything else going on with the tri State straight away. I'll be back

1:58:54

again on Thursday and Friday night. Getting you ready. I think Dan Carroll

1:58:58

may follow Xavier tomorrow, but it's an eight thirty tip off. We'll see

1:59:01

how that goes. Xavier and Villanova Big East matchup on the Nation station Home

1:59:08

of the HOODA, the Reds, the Bearcats and the Musketeers and me sterling

1:59:12

Stone Shields producing. Thank you for your help, have a great night atn

1:59:15

rolls Next with Kevin Gordon behind the Wheel on seven hundred WLW

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