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I'm Wesley Morris. I'm a culture

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at the New York Times and today on the

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show. What happens

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when athletes decide they

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want to Actually, actually, what

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does it happened? When they decide they can

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act? This is still

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processing.

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Bill Simmons, Wesley, you're

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the one person I would hop on a zoom with

0:30

at 8 in the morning in my life and throw

0:32

my contacts in. And it's just,

0:34

that always to see. So it's great to see

0:37

You're

0:38

the author now. I can die in peace in

0:40

the big book of a basketball and

0:42

you're the holder of many opinions about

0:44

the movies and sports. Therefore,

0:47

you are uniquely qualified to

0:49

answer this question. What

0:51

happened Bill when these great athletes

0:53

the side they can act in a movie what?

0:56

goes wrong

0:58

Well it it's the same thing that goes

1:00

wrong if you're going to ask actors to play

1:02

in the mba or the NFL it's.

1:05

a little unrealistic it's two separate

1:07

skill set

1:08

Karim. An airplane is probably our best

1:10

case scenario for this where it's like, "Wow, that's

1:12

Karim I'm sorry, some, but you must have me

1:14

confused with someone else, oh, he's not really"

1:16

Playing cream on the copilot Ah this

1:19

is fun anyway farming to cruise

1:21

at forty two thousand reporters and overly

1:24

over. now he's that it it's too much

1:26

he can't really ask but it's okay and that's

1:28

where you want to get essay

1:29

Right? But that's not how this really

1:32

started these with athletes acting in

1:34

movies you, can go back to the

1:36

nineteen Fifties Nineteen Fifty Five five

1:38

Believe Is The Jackie Robinson Story. ,

1:41

Jackie Robinson basically place, himself

1:44

I can be the first Negro to ever planned organized

1:46

baseball mom's not very well might

1:48

add protest not really the point of. That I'm here it's

1:50

a point of movie is to introduce

1:53

Jackie Robinson and you know

1:55

near the peak of is Jackie. robinson this

1:57

as this american that everybody

2:00

You're comfortable with in love

2:02

in some way.

2:03

What we are for didn't have social media back then

2:05

or this a good point, yes, so.

2:08

Either side, Jackie Robinson, at

2:10

a baseball game or maybe

2:12

I saw him on the news for twenty

2:14

seconds, burn that didn't know, have any

2:17

idea what he looks like, what it looked like when

2:19

he smiled anything like that. Though

2:21

think they used with boxers, a baseball players

2:24

They would throw them in these movies because it was like

2:26

another way to kind of learn what somebody was

2:29

like, right so.

2:31

Then after Jackie Robinson, you have this moment

2:33

where the movies are changing. There

2:36

is racism that is keeping black actors

2:38

out of acting schools and then there

2:40

is. Basic Hollywood

2:42

racism that is keeping them from acting in the

2:44

movies in an elite way.

2:46

And the blaxploitation movement, the thing we're

2:48

calling blaxploitation begins

2:50

to happen. Can you take a baby and

2:53

they need people to

2:55

star in these movies, but

2:58

they don't go and hire people

3:00

who graduated from Juilliard. They

3:02

go to the NFL and start,

3:04

just getting these retired

3:06

football players. And the

3:09

first person who were Cheese's theme going

3:11

from Sports to Hollywood is,

3:14

Jim Brown, Don't sweet-talk. You

3:17

Know Why? The dirty dozen

3:19

is? It makes him star's

3:21

actually bridesmaid you fight

3:23

for me. I'll pick my

3:25

own enemies. That was big

3:27

deal that he was in that movie. That was huge movie

3:29

in that. For sure. He was used kind

3:31

of perfectly in it, you know. yes kind

3:34

of the muscle, right? And

3:36

the appeal of him during the blaxploitation

3:39

era, was

3:40

that in addition to him, being in the muscle. You

3:42

also got to be cool. Nothing's going to ask me.

3:46

a slower pace bowlers,

3:48

kept the developer for the cool.

3:51

Was supposed to make him up magnet

3:53

for women, and so and lot

3:55

of this was about the sex ed Jim Brown was gonna

3:57

have and. he's not he uses He

4:00

just said.

4:02

The trick he's. also explains

4:05

then why are you have this influx

4:07

of other former athletes Playing

4:10

the heroes in these blaxploitation

4:12

or movies, they're spread Williamson.

4:14

Who is basically the orson welles

4:16

of blaxploitation like starring

4:19

writing directing these movies there's

4:21

Bernie Casey who won

4:23

it is big yeah citizen or movies with counter

4:26

black and Mr Hyde what?

4:30

he was also bryant song which oh

4:32

yeah i think was an incredibly impactful tv

4:35

movie yes the basically what basically

4:37

these guys have is their physical presence

4:39

right yeah they're tall there will

4:41

build their handsome for hot

4:44

Can say it and,

4:46

you don't give them more to say than

4:48

you need to give them, them

4:51

other guy other maybe the most stories

4:54

one stories me was rich around,

4:56

three candidates. who played

4:58

sounds good

5:06

And this is something about the swagger they used

5:09

to carry himself that was very, very

5:11

appealing and.

5:13

I. Mean he wasn't in the NFL, but

5:15

he did play football at some point in his

5:17

early life, and I just don't understand where this

5:19

man wasn't a bigger star, but you. Cover

5:21

that before Hollywood was super racist back

5:23

that right I know so,

5:26

then there's this other kind of

5:28

movie that crops up during the

5:30

nineteen seventies yeah.

5:35

That is that a particular kind of for

5:37

movie. rate where

5:40

they're looking for kind

5:42

of authenticity to be brought to

5:44

movie that's about sports by having

5:47

The actual athlete start. Well.

5:50

Though it all starts with the longest yard, nineteen

5:52

seventy four first rentals, the

5:54

quarterback Otago anything

5:57

and incredible movie that starts. We

5:59

should mention. If you're watching it, you're going to fired

6:01

up with the kids, it starts with Burt Reynolds punching

6:03

and his girlfriend. And it's kind of joy

6:06

to watch. Half century

6:08

later, and mcrae as have gone

6:10

to jail. And forms

6:12

this football team with the convicts

6:14

the assembled the mean as dirty

6:16

as team in history and why this

6:18

is important I say that size for

6:20

it actually has some rope football players in.

6:23

this game and they have joe cat who's cat pretty famous

6:25

quarterback at the time him and he's one

6:27

of so sad a word and evil kind

6:30

of psychic guys and then raid netscape

6:32

Well, it's own alert scarred

6:35

so that was like Jimmy casting they're playing

6:37

football players they don't really have to accept

6:39

much for joke that's pretty goodness a game

6:41

that broke all records,.

6:45

from that point where off with like oh please

6:48

some athletes in these parts where we

6:50

can try to keep them contain they're basically playing

6:52

themselves but not really but it's fun to

6:54

see them in the movie and that's the

6:57

genesis

6:57

Then what would you say about going

7:00

from the longest yard to something like?

7:03

This is saved Pittsburgh.

7:05

Let's. Do it we got here is

7:07

our magic's made a sweat and,

7:09

strain, and, fry

7:13

that's what I'm taken back out on back goddamn point

7:15

that movies got Julius. Irving Saturday

7:18

one of the biggest stars in the N. B. A nineteen

7:20

seventy nine when this movie, comes out and

7:23

I would, just. start off by saying

7:30

this is terrible job and know

7:33

that

7:33

The great idea for a movie right

7:36

you got, this team is basketball team.

7:38

It is sucking the care. Yeah,

7:41

and there's like kid who hangs

7:43

out with the team.

7:44

It is some point the kid is getting Sarkozy

7:46

a lecture man, I'm

7:48

not full on my way, to scare

7:50

figure anything to, discover so

7:54

I met. a lot of it

7:56

was In all.

8:01

In doctor Jay's hearing this and he's like

8:03

thanks you know I'm a pisces I need that

8:05

stroke every once in awhile took.

8:07

my horoscope kid oh

8:09

kid thought goes off over his head on his lip

8:11

tars girl

8:15

Women. strategy So,

8:17

he goes and consultant astrologers you're all,

8:22

oh I. see and

8:25

the two of them dream up his plan

8:27

to fill this flagging

8:29

pittsburgh basketball team with nothing

8:32

but fellow pisces And

8:35

just like sort of stay with Julius Irving for

8:37

a second, I'm from Philadelphia, one of the most

8:39

important that he makes, smeared of the two most important

8:41

athletes from my childhood as Philadelphian,

8:44

yeah, and. I would

8:46

say that having him this movie

8:48

should have been. The, you know,

8:50

it shouldn't, it should have made him a star. There's

8:53

no, there's nothing in it to say that this person

8:55

should be in another movie again because

8:57

all he really does is sit there and listen to people talk

9:00

to him.

9:00

Well, I think you know there's is

9:02

boom started longest yard where for.

9:06

Seven years and then Rocky. Where

9:09

every sports just getting three to four movies,

9:11

cause they're just trying to cash in on it, Susan,

9:13

okay, was think the only one? Who

9:16

was like I'm good actually turn this into a

9:18

career because you think like using Capricorn

9:20

one is one of the three stars, yeah, but oh,

9:23

Geez, like, really acting in that either,

9:25

I liked that movie liked that movie do.

9:28

There's then also this whole other

9:30

group of movies that are built around professional

9:32

athletes to lend the, movie some

9:34

kind of credibility whether it's a comedy or

9:37

drunk while. it starts at

9:39

blue chips you cannot win

9:43

lol.

9:47

Blue Chip maintenance for said

9:49

slots are things going on one is

9:51

we have two decades and are about of

9:53

watching sports moses right, yeah, so it's the

9:55

next generation learning from

9:58

all the mistakes of the previous centers.

10:00

One of the many thanks where we are used

10:02

his ass a better they can't be the star the movie

10:04

but it sits at the minute sad we figure that

10:06

out whenever for unicef make difference

10:08

recruiting sucker for.

10:12

sure yeah blame freakin making blue chips

10:14

who is obsessed with bobby knight in

10:16

the world of college recruiting william friedkin

10:19

we should say the director of the exorcist in the french

10:21

connection yes like real

10:23

list or direct in this and won't understand

10:25

as in silence for complete

10:27

buffoons argument house

10:32

Love regimes, and

10:34

then he decides

10:36

In a cast, Shaquille O'Neill Penny

10:38

Hardaway and at the Met over Matte

10:40

no way I'm in film. The

10:42

actual games you're in, this is gonna look

10:44

like basketball and. It's revolutionary

10:47

movie for lotta ways, it's also like for somebody

10:49

like me. Secure than l as

10:51

you but we don't have the social media

10:54

yet penny hardaway barely dorms or memphis

10:56

you. see them in this movie in it's like it's

10:59

actually sick of really elevated their profiles

11:01

in the right way some petty got nike

11:03

The guy.

11:08

Any from? his movie you think

11:10

as they give really help and

11:12

You. Could see shack thirty years later is one

11:14

of the biggest pitch been we have was very low, res

11:16

the new sixty years of quality coverage mugged

11:18

or ago and go to. General Shaq is

11:21

the biggest one or this movie, his really good at

11:23

that are absolutely yes, absolutely

11:25

it's actually like pretty good acting. That

11:27

is good Israel and he got game, which is probably.

11:29

What our conversation as round and he

11:32

got game is probably the. I would say

11:34

the most important athlete performance

11:36

in a movie and you death on top

11:38

tier system like amount of new. I

11:41

don't even know why you here. The

11:44

time you get stuff. The

11:46

preserve your them, walk through that door of again.

11:49

The thing about their performance that makes it so

11:51

good is that Ray Allen is basically

11:53

like going toe to toe with Denzel Washington

11:55

this the specific set of Spike Lee movie

11:58

spike Lee" directed. The and

12:00

Ray Allen, it turns out, is a really

12:03

good actor, or like you know better than

12:05

you think he would be totally.

12:07

You are as good as being know, you

12:09

enjoy walking on their front door. so

12:12

we're talking about ninety eight year

12:15

This is a really interesting era for athletes

12:18

and. if ray allen and he got

12:20

game is kind of crumb

12:22

the like cram Happy to hear.

12:25

The number one.

12:27

I would say the bottom is probably something

12:29

like space jam was

12:31

running you, we're expecting maybe

12:34

if the money you got to them,

12:37

in, steel most dangerous

12:40

the shack movies you got Robin and double

12:42

team with. a half ago

12:44

my twin sister but

12:47

there's something happening where They're

12:49

the star of these movies, they're not just.

12:52

The additive authenticity l and well

12:54

and it's also.

12:56

Then their branding decisions great, I

12:58

would say the peak of this kind

13:00

of brand orientation.

13:04

Meaning that it seems to have work.

13:07

Probably the rock rate is probably

13:09

Dwayne Johnson starring in the scorpion

13:11

King Source amenities,

13:14

hard to choose, I find

13:16

myself find a position where you're more used to me. alive

13:19

to make me change my mind if it's

13:21

recounts the rock like i feel like professional

13:23

wrestlers or half actors anyway

13:26

Let's talk about that raids, yes, I

13:28

believe in a professional wrestling as sport

13:31

be too despite the rigging. I

13:33

think they still have to go in there and do that stuff

13:35

sometimes for forty five minutes. Oh,

13:39

feel like want account him rate, it's fair,

13:41

and there was something about.

13:44

Iraq as a character from the beginning

13:47

finally, go

13:52

Many other charisma the you could sell he

13:55

changed the energy

13:57

in these arenas when he'd walk in other words.

14:02

Seven, forty five hundred pounds

14:05

steamer in so doing same

14:07

and stage a bow have run out.

14:12

He said that wrestler as if.

14:14

you talk about looks charisma personality

14:17

interviews reading ability to

14:19

work the crowd one hundred percent he's

14:21

the best like so There

14:23

is no doubt he was gonna go to act and I

14:25

would bet my house on it and even have

14:27

a house out bet my baseball cards for

14:31

years. i sincerely doubt he clearly had

14:33

to be an actor read while he still

14:35

wrestling he appears as the scorpion

14:37

king in the scorpion king which is

14:39

a big it

14:40

And then he moves into these kind

14:43

of either their actual Disney movies or their

14:45

Disney like movies where he plays, for instance,

14:48

or we is he the tooth fairy I can't remember

14:50

now, but essentially. These cars with

14:52

these kids. Because

14:54

he's a bike, why would you expect

14:56

big cuddly data also be?

14:58

The the tooth fairy a mama ferry

15:00

fair is. your tooth

15:03

so you do with it whatever it is you do here in fairy

15:05

world with your teeth and i dunno

15:07

where do you fall on the on the dwayne

15:09

johnson scale of good

15:12

star Good athlete.

15:14

Then, you know, I wish he had taken like three chances.

15:17

You know it. just feel like.

15:20

There was a moment there when it felt like he was gonna get

15:22

the action hero championship belt, where

15:24

I was just like this is, can be or action guy, and it

15:26

just never really got there. Yes,

15:28

the Gridiron gang, he's making movies

15:30

like that, or it's like he can see what he's

15:32

looking at the landscape, is a common to do my inner

15:34

city movie, but it's like ten years too late.

15:37

Tried the kid's movies, saying he basically just

15:39

kind of sex ah the boxes until it finds

15:41

fast by. I think part

15:44

of the problem. Is

15:46

the low expectations that people had

15:48

of him? The and.

15:51

When I think is going on as think he is

15:53

very comfortable. They basically just

15:55

being the rock. And nobody is asking

15:57

him to do much more than. Now that

15:59

is. You know?

16:02

Iraq is just stay at his this gigantic,

16:04

you know, and maybe he's a six foot four

16:07

whatever is in these huge muscles

16:09

and.

16:10

Canada want to see him and or rom. com

16:12

or things like that on lead Schwarzenegger,

16:15

this is yeah, the mail or not I was able

16:17

to navigate that do all these there for movies

16:19

by. Iraq's not like that, so he's

16:21

missing that one piece read.

16:24

I don't know what he does, he so much bigger than everybody

16:26

else has that realistic send the lose a fight in

16:28

movie. You know, it's like Bruce, yes, is

16:30

fight and die hard.

16:32

That's like this guy might lose, sees the underdog

16:34

at all these fights in the right like this beating the

16:36

brand nobody.

16:39

Some of it marketing for these movies

16:41

especially those kid oriented

16:44

action film everywhere,

16:49

you see once, he

16:53

is in so often for my taste

16:55

in proximity to creatures

16:58

of the jungle to actual

17:00

jungle ness of. jesus

17:03

i mean skyscraper is him literally climbing

17:05

up giant buildings yeah there's giant

17:07

whole like racial is a sin aspect

17:10

of him that i don't even

17:12

know if he's aware of arnold the movies

17:14

know how comfortable they are seeing

17:16

comfortable black and samoan person climbing

17:18

and giant buildings yeah even if it's to save

17:20

people The turning it into

17:23

King Kong is. You know, that

17:25

kind of a step too far for me, keeping

17:27

him in the jungle is step too far

17:29

for me, but he's like really

17:32

into. Like this aspect

17:34

of himself as persona

17:36

that really isn't about what kind of actor

17:39

he is brand extension. By

17:41

the way, it works.

17:43

When is one of the most popular people in the world

17:45

and he's made it sound yeti

17:47

That he did you actually, but yes, I think you and

17:49

are disappointed just because.

17:52

We feel like there was probably a couple great

17:54

parts and there at some point for him and

17:56

he just doesn't seem to care about that. But

17:59

can I do is offered as?

18:00

One little thing about in this interesting points:

18:02

Have you seen that young rock that NBC

18:04

sitcom it's about his life by said, "Really

18:06

likes young rock", he watched it, yeah, okay?

18:09

I mean it's kind of for kids and it's

18:11

real interesting that it for kids because

18:13

the just to the show as if he's running for president

18:16

and twenty thirty two I'm aware of the people

18:18

reading of they are not ready but they need to see

18:20

if it's, a specific.

18:24

specific mean dwayne johnson might actually run for

18:26

office for wheel and

18:28

for better brand extension good as be than family

18:30

friendly network situation comedy where the

18:33

situation is the rock running

18:35

for office to is good thing for me to

18:37

have for later if i decide to run for president

18:40

idea for show and which is whether

18:42

is that a like ding dong

18:44

yeah It's not just that

18:47

Bill, I mean, if you think about it, this is the answer

18:49

to the to the question we're asking about, why is

18:51

playing it safe because?

18:53

The getting all these risks got a long game

18:56

and mind. Okay,

18:58

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19:00

out a little bit more and just talk about why

19:02

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19:04

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Though.

20:33

You know, I've been talking about the history professional athletes

20:36

acting in movies, but. We

20:38

really don't have the sports movies for

20:40

them to be anymore, I mean, you say it's because

20:42

athletes can just go on Instagram and

20:44

tick tock to build their brand. also

20:47

think that one of the problems is this. There

20:49

are no movies for them to go in to the.

20:52

You know are we will Smith just won an

20:54

Oscar for playing Richard Williams and a movie about

20:57

Venus and Serena but really the movie that about

20:59

Venus and Serena Williams it's about Or.

21:01

received praise and richard williams

21:03

raising these two girls into

21:05

being the women that we know today it's family

21:08

drama that has sports slavering

21:10

basically so i'm just curious

21:12

lake What

21:15

happened to the first move? Three

21:17

things. Okay, sports argument

21:19

or is.

21:20

I think tickets, lunch and a lot of ways, EU

21:24

second thing is. The

21:26

ideas were done we, had

21:28

Fifty years, a sports movies

21:31

and there's. The only so many ways

21:33

you can do, rocky which is why I think.

21:36

We're such an instinct sports movie. Then

21:38

arrange Ray, now we're we've moved into like.

21:41

Really well, that movies that happened to

21:43

be about sports.

21:45

Yeah, yes, the app like movie "The Basketball

21:47

Coach" movie "The Way Back: The Way Back

21:49

Yep", I really liked that movie that

21:51

movie has these sports movie

21:53

scene. They're like, oh, it's

21:56

a sports movie scene they would, and then it's like

21:58

know we're not read yet religion ago. Twenty

22:00

five more minutes and we're going to go really

22:02

dark, yeah, and then I

22:04

think the third thing is. You know

22:06

the sports movie like? Such.

22:09

An essential part of being a sports fan issue

22:11

at his movies over and over again in we

22:13

watch hoosiers and bad news bears break in

22:15

training and saw hundred twenty. Five generous to

22:17

they're not doing that they're not watching movies

22:20

like that over and over again because they're on tick tock

22:22

and Instagram and stabs at all these

22:24

other places sell. At two thousand

22:26

twenty two, I don't think people

22:28

watch sports movies the same way like that,

22:30

so they're less essential.

22:32

There is something to your point about

22:34

non fiction. And

22:37

people really just wanting to know

22:39

the truth about the people that were watching,

22:41

where does Friday night lights fitted, saw

22:44

this because to me that's the one

22:46

press these sports sound good

22:48

question now they didn't use any athlete, said

22:50

that in that so, but.

22:52

That's a show that it was ahead of its time,

22:54

I dig it becomes ten years later, it's a phenomenon.

22:57

Adding Friday night lights

22:59

is a really important show, and it's weird

23:02

to me that there hasn't been. The

23:04

pro sports version that way to direct.

23:06

Real actors, you could use real athletes,

23:09

you could create a whole world and go into it, I

23:11

think it would work. would really

23:13

love that.

23:14

I think the way non fiction has infiltrated and

23:16

aspect of sports culture is

23:19

sort of robbing me at least have the pleasure

23:21

of what you'd get from like, even

23:23

something as ridiculous as like the fish disease

23:26

that.

23:27

I. Mean, you know, I watch a show like winning

23:29

time, which is that yes story on

23:32

H. B. O about the Lakers in the nineteen

23:34

eighties and it's toll from the. Point of view

23:36

of mostly magic Johnson and Jerry Buss

23:38

who becomes the owner of the teams off,

23:41

the bus, more acidic

23:46

or, modify, the. Lakers have said someone

23:49

sap is it one day I'll, do it can't.

23:51

read welcomed with de

23:53

los angeles sister

23:57

france and you know how to make angeles

23:59

made his money

24:00

Rumi, an acre man, and don't look up advice,

24:02

and I feel like the problem with that show is

24:04

it it's taking everything so seriously,

24:07

even though it thinks it's a common.

24:10

It's. Like having characters break the fourth wall

24:12

and tell us what they're thinking the way person

24:14

wouldn't a documentary after you use them archival

24:17

footage either winning time as entertaining

24:19

as soon. As I watch it and think

24:21

about how they plan a bastard as some

24:23

of the facts and really irresponsible

24:25

ways in. this like the stuff

24:28

they did jerry west and power has

24:30

his yeah oh yeah

24:32

i think that's a good example also of they didn't

24:34

use real athletes

24:36

Getting the really drove me crazy about that show to which

24:38

is that they've got this guy who looks nothing like

24:40

magic, Johnson playing magic, Johnson and

24:43

his. A little bit of magic, Johnson and As But.

24:45

So not bad also

24:47

that it's I get your that find a gift he's

24:49

Magic Johnson. had

24:52

my previous super three guys there's

24:54

enough funding for mean it can't be done

24:56

it can be done

24:57

I actually think that a really good example

25:00

of where things could wind up. From

25:03

the role that athletes have and movies. There's

25:06

something like Kevin Garnett.

25:08

Playing Kevin Garnett and on Cojones,

25:11

which is a thriller

25:13

starring Adam Sandler, he's running

25:15

jewelry shop on Jewelers Row. Then

25:18

lot of gambling trouble.

25:19

Kevin. Garnett is a character who's coming

25:21

into his shop public are so many calls it

25:24

mere what has to have such things as say, "If

25:26

and see the whole universe and" Know possess

25:28

how fuck an old, their home

25:30

and on been challenging, really stressful,

25:32

and Kevin Garnett function in it

25:34

is well used in school

25:37

shooting and I with this pockets. The

25:39

makes me sound like a slob and our

25:42

the kg perfectly in it if you're talking

25:44

about like. Gala want to ten?

25:47

How are they use a real athlete and all

25:49

the pieces them that you would have thought would work

25:51

in movie?

25:52

This is about as good as you're gonna do prayer,

25:54

I do have a prediction for you though, ah,

25:57

oh, by all means lay it on. The Adam

25:59

Sandler. The new movie.

26:01

It's going to be on Netflix that I've not seen I

26:03

only saw the trailer, but one show

26:05

her name Gomez, who is on the Celtics

26:08

and the Nuggets, and has been out a bunch of the teams he's.

26:11

That basque bob where it and asic I think

26:13

sailors a scout for me as here again.

26:16

The love this game. I'm

26:19

really says he has his movie does because.

26:22

The down the streaming world. Everything

26:25

with the streaming er. They're

26:28

gonna run stuff back that the algorithm

26:30

says this works, do more of

26:32

these, yeah, and my course it is. Will

26:35

be algorithm. How place like this

26:37

I'd like to start making sports movies make?

26:40

sure you get one star

26:42

Make sure you get the cameo from the one

26:44

athlete or the extended cameo or your version

26:46

of Blue Trips, yeah, well, this happened with

26:48

sports movies and if this does happen.

26:51

Will we get the renaissance that we had in the

26:53

Seventies and eighties of

26:55

just people trying to make every kind of sports

26:57

movie are we headed for another with?

26:59

Oh, my God, that would make me so happy

27:02

I just feel like we're headed for that.

27:04

think that's the next wave of this. Bill

27:07

Simmons mouth the flow, jos ear. Really

27:10

do hope his movies comeback meet you.

27:15

Mm Thanks for coming on the show the

27:18

means a lot I appreciate aside a great

27:20

time with Red Sportsmen ah

27:22

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27:28

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