0:03

Oh, I'm sorry, did I

0:03

break your concentration?

0:10

Somewhere between science and

0:10

superstition?

0:20

To show you

0:28

Strange Aeons. Strange

0:28

Aeons radio. That's Eric over

0:33

there. That's Vanessa over

0:33

there.

0:35

Hello.

0:35

Hey, you guys. I'm sure

0:35

that you heard the sad news that

0:39

Tanya Roberts has died again.

0:39

No. Yes.

0:41

twice in two days, right?

0:44

We did for real. Did

0:44

she die? Yeah. Oh, really? She

0:47

did actually die.

0:48

Oh, like the next day?

0:48

No. And I kept thinking to

0:54

myself, was this a pet cemetery

0:54

situation or what happened?

0:59

Because her boyfriend was the

0:59

one who released it to the the

1:05

agent or whatever. Yeah. And he

1:05

released it with when I was

1:10

holding her hand, she took her

1:10

last breath. I saw our eyes open

1:13

and all this stuff. And and

1:13

then, I mean, this guy was super

1:18

excited to talk about his

1:18

growth. I finally get into

1:22

Instagram followers, and I

1:22

get any new phone.

1:26

They're creepy. In other

1:26

news, oh, I found out something

1:30

very interesting. I wanted to

1:30

get your guys's opinion on it.

1:33

So Warner Brothers, is now

1:33

agreeing to set up new payment

1:38

structures for filmmakers, based

1:38

on HBO max streaming fees. Why?

1:46

Yeah, so a lot of these people,

1:46

but you know, Warner Brothers

1:49

comes out and says, we're

1:49

releasing our 2021 slate, on

1:53

HBO. And the people who have

1:53

worked on those films who had

1:57

you know, points or something

1:57

like that, watch that money.

2:00

Look, it's very unlikely you're

2:00

going to get any money when

2:02

you've got points. But on

2:02

something like Godzilla versus

2:05

King Kong, which is coming out?

2:05

Yeah, yeah, there was a good

2:08

chance for people to make a lot

2:08

of money on that. But not if it

2:11

just goes to streaming. Yeah. So

2:11

Warner Brothers and HBO, Max are

2:15

making new deals with everybody

2:15

and saying, look, we'll figure

2:19

this out based on the streaming

2:19

and based on the money it makes

2:24

in the actual theater. And we're

2:24

cutting down what those levels

2:28

would have been, so that they're

2:28

not based on the original deal

2:32

he made there based on half of

2:32

those numbers and things like

2:35

that. And I just thought that

2:35

was really interesting. And I

2:37

wanted to kind of get your take

2:37

on it.

2:40

I wonder if it's like a

2:40

response to like, the letter

2:43

from the Daniel balloon

2:45

in this news item they bring.

2:49

Because like he he

2:49

didn't write like us. It wasn't

2:52

scathing, but it was definitely

2:52

like, pretty, like you guys need

2:56

to understand what, how bad this

2:56

is for us. But I also thought

3:02

that HBO max may be basically

3:02

bankrupt. So I'm curious how on

3:07

earth they're going to be able

3:07

to deliver on that kind of

3:11

promise. I don't know. I don't

3:11

know. This is kind of weird. As

3:15

a filmmaker. I mean, I, I never

3:15

expect anything for points

3:18

anyway.

3:19

Well, yeah.

3:21

Especially like, yeah,

3:21

at this level, like No way. But

3:24

still.

3:28

I mean, it seems like the

3:28

right thing to do. You need to

3:30

adjust how you do everything. As

3:30

a film, especially in a studio,

3:35

where you're, you're a big

3:35

enough studio that all your a

3:39

product comes out in theaters,

3:39

right, which means you're hiring

3:42

everybody based on in theater

3:42

money, or based on whatever

3:46

theatrical deals, because

3:46

usually they didn't do. They

3:50

eventually did. But for a long

3:50

time, they didn't give much

3:52

anything for VHS to race cars

3:52

and stuff. That was a big, a big

3:57

thing. And some of the strikes

3:57

in the late 90s, I think was

4:00

when that really started to

4:00

change. It's good that they're

4:03

not waiting for. Because work

4:03

stoppage strikes would be weird

4:08

right now.

4:11

Yeah, no, I don't know.

4:11

Like your I think there's

4:14

something to that what you're

4:14

saying, which is that we were in

4:17

the future. And we need to find

4:17

a system and we need to find

4:20

something that works and

4:20

actually helps the people who

4:24

are going to be affected by it

4:24

so that artists continue to want

4:27

to work on projects for next to

4:27

nothing on the idea of points.

4:31

Yeah.

4:32

So

4:33

yeah, no, I yeah, I

4:33

fill that void and HBO going,

4:37

you know what, let's not be the

4:37

bad guys.

4:40

Well, to your point,

4:40

though, then I wonder if this is

4:44

just this is just bullshit

4:44

because they know that you say

4:49

nothing to say this. Yeah. And

4:49

make a big deal about it when in

4:53

the end, it will cost them nothing.

4:55

I definitely think there's a huge part to that because they they from my

4:57

understanding that They are

5:00

really bad off currently

5:00

financially. And that's part of

5:05

the reason why they did this was

5:05

to try and get more subscribers

5:09

because they're banking so hard

5:09

on that and failing so

5:12

miserably. So, I think it is

5:12

really easy to say, Well,

5:16

whatever you're the new

5:16

subscriber ships going to be all

5:19

15 of Yeah.

5:23

I'm gonna say, Man, if you

5:23

are a streaming service and you

5:25

bankrupt yourself this year, or

5:25

in 2020, you're definitely

5:30

figured something really wrong.

5:30

Unless you had some kind of

5:33

weird wheel

5:34

before it was. It was

5:34

before COVID. So I think it was

5:38

carrying their debt into this

5:38

situation. So that's my rough

5:44

understanding. And it didn't

5:44

at&t by HBO, which is why john

5:47

oliver makes fun of it all the

5:47

time. Yes. Yeah. So I don't

5:51

know. Maybe they're just

5:51

swimming off of at&t money to

5:54

survive.

5:55

It's pretty good money.

5:55

Some of it depends on his HBO

5:58

max going, are they YouTube

5:58

level money where people are

6:02

making significantly good

6:02

careers? If you're huge. I mean,

6:05

you got to have millions of

6:05

views, but you can make millions

6:08

of dollars? Or is it going to be

6:08

like Spotify, where it's like,

6:13

oh, I had a million listens. And

6:13

here's your nickel. Yep. I think

6:16

it's got to be that. So the

6:16

depends on it's always in the

6:20

details. Yeah.

6:21

Yeah. I just thought it was interesting and worth bringing up.

6:24

Yeah, no. And in case

6:24

anybody out there doesn't

6:27

realize when you put your film

6:27

on the streaming, you're

6:30

basically saying goodbye to any

6:30

potential profit. Like with

6:34

prospect for it took us forever

6:34

to go on streaming. And the

6:37

other film that I just finished

6:37

up even though we're in COVID

6:40

times they are doing their best

6:40

not to go straight to streaming

6:44

because it's basically saying

6:44

okay, I give up no more money is

6:46

gonna come in. Like you get

6:46

nothing like you get viewership,

6:51

you get people knowing who you

6:51

are. And it's very exciting to

6:53

tell your friends and family

6:55

my movies on No, you can

6:55

go watch it in your own home.

6:58

But I yeah, and then send me $1

7:01

Please, because they won't

7:04

think you saying that

7:04

then reminded me that part of

7:07

this news thing was that

7:07

legendary tried to make a deal

7:11

with Netflix for Godzilla versus

7:11

cotton for 225 bucks. And Warner

7:17

who is co partner on it. They

7:17

swooped in and said no, no, no.

7:22

Now they Warner and legendary

7:22

are making this deal to for it

7:27

to go right to HBO Max, I guess.

7:27

So

7:29

I guess HBO Max is

7:29

probably going to become the

7:31

place where blockbuster films

7:31

are coming out. So we'll go

7:35

there and I guess Disney to see

7:35

these prod products and then

7:40

we'll go to Netflix and whatever

7:40

the other ones are. Amazon

7:45

Amazon's Hulu. Yeah. To watch

7:45

the like, smaller, you know,

7:50

projects.

7:52

Yeah. And who owns what I

7:52

mean, Disney technically owns

7:55

Hulu, because they own ABC.

7:57

Right? So I mean, right?

7:57

Anyway, you guys I watched a

8:03

really fun stupid movie just

8:03

recently. It's available as a

8:07

rental. And it is called shadow

8:07

in the cloud with Chloe Grace

8:12

Moretz. And it is World War Two

8:12

horror about a crew on a b 17

8:19

bomber and there is a gremlin on

8:19

board and Oh, they are trying to

8:23

fight it out for that. This

8:23

thing is so stupid. ridiculous

8:28

how stupid it is. I mean, with

8:28

every plot twist. I was like, Oh

8:32

no, I wish I was sitting in a

8:32

theater to throw popcorn. I

8:38

loved it. But it was just the

8:38

stupidest movie I've ever seen.

8:41

So kind of like Snakes

8:41

on a Plane like you know, you

8:44

know it's not gonna be good.

8:46

They added the trailer

8:46

looked like it might sit closer

8:48

to a really good be big budget B

8:48

movie. Yeah, sounds like it

8:52

didn't even quite hit. No, I

8:54

mean, when I say it's

8:54

stupid, please know that I'm

8:58

saying it. Oh, you affection. I

8:58

had such a good time with it.

9:02

And I really wish I could have

9:02

seen it in the theater because

9:05

it is a spectacle. But story

9:05

wise, it's stupid. One thing you

9:10

should know written by Max

9:10

Landis so Oh, okay. I feel like

9:15

yeah, you want to pirate this

9:15

movie?

9:17

Yeah, I don't have

9:17

money. To be honest. I have not

9:23

enjoyed a single Max Landis

9:23

joint. Oh, wait, no, I take that

9:26

back Chronicle.

9:28

Was that the Seattle film?

9:28

I still never saw it just

9:32

because I had enough of the the

9:32

the people that you're the first

9:37

person whose opinion I respect

9:37

but said they liked it. Because

9:40

most of people said they liked

9:40

it were people like all right,

9:42

people. They hated it. Like

9:42

Kelly. Oh, here's I know, right?

9:46

I don't care. There's too many

9:46

other movies to watch. It's

9:48

true. It's true. I

9:48

think I liked it at the time

9:51

because it was before. There was

9:51

a lot of that good looking, low

9:56

budget CGI stuff. And I felt

9:56

like the characters were pretty

10:00

Fun and effective, but I like

10:00

teen films a lot.

10:03

That show had you been

10:03

hit in the head with a hammer

10:06

just before you saw

10:07

a no I can't say how

10:07

sleepy or awake I was. No

10:12

hammers were involved. No, I

10:12

mean I but I also love disaster

10:16

films and I also love spectacle

10:16

and you know, superhero and all

10:20

that stuff being mixed together

10:20

and they're flying around

10:22

freakin the Space Needle. And I was like,

10:24

yeah, it's also a found

10:24

footage style. Which if you

10:29

don't mind?

10:30

Yeah, yeah. Well, I would

10:30

say that you probably both like

10:34

shadow in the cloud, but you

10:34

would also both be going this is

10:37

so

10:41

maybe I'll put it lower

10:41

down on the list. Well, I just

10:46

finished watching Castle Rock

10:46

season one.

10:51

Okay, yeah, to hear your thoughts on it.

10:53

Um,

10:54

I am both. I have so

10:54

many mixed opinions. Eric, have

10:58

you seen this?

10:59

I feel free. I'm not. It's

10:59

not one that's on my list of

11:04

going to watch it at any point.

11:06

I mean, the entire thing is a mystery. So it's really easy to spoil. But I will

11:08

just say I hated the decision

11:14

they made in the last 15

11:14

minutes.

11:17

Oh, yes.

11:19

How stupid. How stupid.

11:22

Hold on everyone. And will

11:22

I be entertained to know what

11:25

this is? Or is it way too tight?

11:25

Oh, sorry. Okay. No,

11:29

it's a way to talk

11:29

about, but I will. But the

11:32

journey is incredible. Like

11:32

there's a sissy SpaceX centered

11:37

episode where you're dealing

11:37

with somebody who's at at kind

11:41

of the beginning to middle

11:41

stages of Alzheimer's and it's

11:45

from there. Number one, I

11:45

didn't watch that now because I started to watch and I wasn't not ready for a no like

11:47

relic and stuff I was fine with

11:51

but

11:51

yeah,

11:52

it's a couple years ago

11:52

that came out right?

11:54

Yeah, yeah. I it's

11:54

beautiful. And it's just

12:00

breathtaking. Like that entire

12:00

episode such there are moments

12:04

of brilliance in the show. So it

12:04

makes the ending, like so

12:08

infuriating. Because you're

12:08

like, what did you do? Why? Why

12:15

would you do this? You guys are

12:15

so fucking stupid. But, but I

12:20

will say if you ignore that

12:20

part, and you write your own

12:23

ending as I did, because I was

12:23

like, oh, it could have ended

12:26

these five additional ways that

12:26

would have been better. I'll

12:28

just pretend that happens. Yes,

12:28

but it's it's like American

12:35

Horror Story. Oh, okay. Like so

12:35

it's a different story. I got a

12:38

Castle Rock. Yeah. So the Yeah,

12:38

it completes that particular

12:42

journey.

12:42

I just thought it was a

12:42

real wasted opportunity. I don't

12:46

know what was in the details of

12:46

the deal they made who they

12:50

could or couldn't use from kings

12:50

universe, you know, that kind of

12:53

stuff. But I thought there was a

12:53

real opportunity to do something

12:56

cool. And I would have had that

12:56

episode seven that you're

13:00

talking about was maybe the best

13:00

hour of television ever shot.

13:05

Yeah. I hated just about

13:05

everything that came after that.

13:10

Yeah. Yeah. It was

13:10

confusing. And they did too good

13:15

of a job bringing us in our

13:15

direction. They I guess

13:18

regretted slash didn't want to?

13:18

I don't know. I'm very

13:22

frustrated.

13:23

And then at the very end,

13:23

when the thinny between worlds

13:28

is happening, I would have

13:28

probably forgiven everything. If

13:32

I had gotten a glimpse of the

13:32

Dark Tower or something like, I

13:36

would have been like, oh, cuz

13:36

that's where I thought they were

13:38

going. Oh, they didn't. And I

13:38

was like, Oh, they do

13:42

make a reference to the

13:42

Dark Tower at some earlier

13:45

point, too. So I think they

13:45

would have been able to, I think

13:49

they had a ton of opportunities.

13:49

I honestly, if they had ended

13:54

the entire show right there. I

13:54

would have been happier. Just

13:58

don't give me any ending. I

13:58

don't care. Just give up. Just

14:01

walk away, put it down, put down

14:01

the pen and turn your back and

14:05

leave the room. I would have

14:05

been thrilled in comparison to

14:09

what they decided to do, which

14:09

is unbelievably frustrating, and

14:14

just anticlimactic as well.

14:17

Alright, I'll just keep

14:17

that off the queue as the I want

14:23

one that is opening up

14:23

promising. I hope it doesn't

14:26

quite go to that ending. But

14:26

Greg had mentioned this when you

14:30

had like 30 coins. 30 coins?

14:30

Yeah. Craig also had mentioned

14:35

that

14:37

and that looks I mean,

14:37

just overwhelms me. But yeah,

14:40

I've watched

14:41

episodes that are out.

14:42

What's the basic idea that

14:46

religions problems

14:46

exorcise. Stiles? demons

14:53

priests. Wait, what

14:55

year? Are we talking? Is

14:57

it Spanish? I don't know.

14:57

But It's, it's

15:01

Oh, all right. I feel

15:04

like he's talking about

15:04

problems on Twitter or one of

15:09

the main characters is a mayor.

15:09

Okay, and the guy who plays the

15:13

priest is awesome. He's great.

15:13

Jesus, man, we kind of look

15:17

back, he was in a rough spot

15:17

there. I think it was in the

15:19

episode or God, do not kill this

15:19

character. God, no. But

15:27

there were enough hints,

15:27

like just a couple of hints in

15:30

that first episode that I was

15:30

thinking, I don't think anybody

15:32

comes out of this alive. Oh,

15:32

yeah, just as long as there's,

15:35

you know, there

15:35

for a little while. Is it

15:35

feels like a, it feels like a

15:41

movie or a show that if it keeps

15:41

going where it is, can be a lot

15:44

of fun and really entertaining.

15:44

But man, they could take some

15:47

really dumb turns, and it could

15:47

really, really get bad.

15:51

It's got a, the main

15:51

premise is the 30 coins, or the

15:55

30 pieces of silver that Judas

15:55

was paid to betray Christ. And

15:59

these these people are hunting

15:59

down each of these coins and of

16:02

course, it's it almost feels

16:02

like it's gonna be a little

16:05

monster the week and that each

16:05

of these coins has a story

16:08

that's surrounding it, and the

16:08

person who has it right now, and

16:11

bad things are happening. But it

16:11

also doesn't feel like it's just

16:15

Christianity or dealing with

16:15

feels like we're dealing with

16:20

other crafting things.

16:23

Yeah. Cree,

16:24

baby.

16:25

Yes,

16:26

I'd add in more.

16:29

It's it's HBO so sorry, to

16:29

the people that like everything

16:33

dumped. It's just you know, once

16:33

a week comes out on Mondays I

16:35

think I saw so you know, only

16:35

two episodes behind at this

16:39

point.

16:41

Okay, well,

16:42

although since interest

16:42

the first episode is a frigging

16:44

feature length, almost like 72

16:44

minutes. Yeah.

16:48

Yeah. Yeah, good stuff.

16:48

Also on HBO. Max. I found a show

16:54

called warrior that started out

16:54

on Cinemax.

16:59

I think it is the girl

17:01

now with the girl. Well,

17:01

there's girls in it.

17:04

The Girl with the

17:04

sword? Is that a different one?

17:06

Oh,

17:06

you're thinking a warrior? None. Yeah, there we go. No, no, this is apparently

17:08

based on Bruce Lee's original

17:13

pitch to Hollywood in like 1972

17:13

or something. And then they

17:18

turned around and said nobody

17:18

wants to see Asians on TV and

17:21

made kung fu and said with any

17:21

white actor. But this was his

17:26

pitch. And it is one of the

17:26

consultants is his daughter. And

17:31

it is super stylistic. A lot of

17:31

problems with the dialogue in

17:37

that it feels very current for

17:37

something that's supposed to be

17:40

taking place in like 1918 or

17:40

something like that, I think is

17:44

always nice period. Yeah, yes.

17:44

It's on HBO. Max. Okay. But it

17:51

started out on Cinemax. two

17:51

seasons on HBO Max, and I think

17:54

there's probably a new season on

17:54

Cinemax

17:56

is this one that's set

17:56

in London?

17:59

No, it is set in, in

17:59

America with the Chinese who

18:05

were, you know, slaves to work

18:05

on the railroads. Okay. Oh,

18:11

cool. Okay,

18:11

I've definitely just

18:11

saw a trailer for this because I

18:14

was looking at potential shows

18:14

to forget. But I'm getting to

18:18

the end. Well,

18:19

this. This one is fun. I

18:19

recommended it to a few people.

18:23

And both of them got back to me

18:23

and said, Okay, I'm 10 minutes

18:27

in and this is my new favorite

18:27

show. I guess I'm settling in

18:30

for a marathon.

18:32

check that one out.

18:33

That's awesome. Very,

18:33

very cool. Well, Eric, I did

18:38

actually take up your

18:38

recommendation. And since eatery

18:43

talked about it, I watched

18:43

relic. Oh,

18:45

and

18:46

I loved her. Yeah, it

18:46

was it was very, it was not what

18:51

I expected. Even based off of

18:51

what you're saying about it. I

18:55

did not I don't know. I did not

18:55

envision it went where it went.

18:59

But it was really really

18:59

powerful. And extremely good at

19:06

making complex ideas into

19:06

visualized like realities.

19:11

Oh, yeah. Definitely. A

19:11

good way of putting it

19:15

like without saying

19:15

anything about weapons, but

19:17

yeah, no, really, really camp? I

19:17

don't know. Yeah, I can't

19:21

recommend it highly enough.

19:23

Wow. Well, I gotta check

19:23

that out now too, I guess.

19:27

You know, I think so.

19:27

It just jumped up about 20

19:31

degrees in here instantly, and

19:31

hated it. Because I was holding

19:36

this little hottie in my hand.

19:38

Thank you. Get

19:42

the fine gift from

19:42

Kelly that just keeps on giving.

19:45

And I thought as soon as I

19:45

opened this, it's used it. I

19:51

would it The sun is gonna come

19:51

out and I was not wrong.

19:55

Did you crack it open,

19:55

though? Is it good?

19:58

Oh, it's more. I know.

19:58

Now well, it's fine. I my hands

20:02

will be content and folders.

20:02

Yeah, just place it right on

20:06

there. You know,

20:08

there's more where those came from.

20:09

That's what I heard. I

20:09

heard they're kept in a bag

20:13

somewhere so they just go

20:16

anyway.

20:18

Theater of the mind.

20:21

Theater started off like a

20:21

little extra sticky floor

20:25

theater.

20:29

Yeah, so

20:31

there's just no way to

20:31

like make this not sound bad.

20:33

Just the name of this product

20:33

and warmer, hand warmer.

20:37

Robbie's hand warmer little hand

20:37

warmers. The website is little

20:42

hotties warmers, calm.

20:45

This show brought to you

20:45

by little hotties woman calm

20:49

and no odor it says on

20:49

the packaging. So there you go.

20:53

Alright. Moving right

20:53

along. Got another holdover from

20:57

a 2020. marathon. Yeah. One

20:57

that, you know, it's not really

21:02

in consideration. But some

21:02

people might like, open 24

21:06

hours. Have you seen this? This

21:06

one pretty sure it's on shutter.

21:11

If it's not shutter, then it's

21:11

Amazon. Because I remember it's

21:13

one of those ones that Oh, if

21:13

you enjoy bread, it's like a

21:16

2020 movie. Let's check it out.

21:16

Boy, it's almost a pretty good

21:21

movie. It's the story of a, a

21:21

woman whose serial killer

21:28

husband has been captured and is

21:28

in jail. And his one of his big

21:32

note notorious things is he made

21:32

her watch several of the

21:36

murders. And so she also went to

21:36

jail for a little while and got

21:40

out and is now hallucinating

21:40

that she's seeing him still

21:45

seeing him kill people. Or is

21:45

she? So she takes a job. Okay,

21:53

here you're talking to your

21:53

typical movie. So you're

21:55

attractive young woman. I need a

21:55

job. Where are you going to work

21:58

this fucking terrifying open 24

21:58

hours roadside, run down

22:06

convenient stars. I know. I'm

22:06

not working there. And she's

22:09

working the graveyard shift to

22:09

boot time

22:12

to take any job you get these days.

22:15

And don't mess on the floor.

22:17

Or your target is hiring.

22:19

I actually would graveyard

22:19

shift in the middle of nowhere

22:22

kind of store. As long as you

22:22

know you had something behind

22:25

me. This shelf? Probably would

22:25

be pretty good. Because you know

22:29

what? You're gonna be just

22:29

chillin. Yeah, most of the time.

22:32

Yeah. But so she gets about five

22:32

minutes of training. And then

22:38

the guy leaves and the story

22:38

progresses. From there. It's got

22:41

pretty well done violence. And

22:41

the stories good enough, which

22:47

makes it a little frustrating

22:47

sort of like the starry eyes and

22:50

starry eyes from what the woman

22:50

in the cop shop.

22:54

know, last shift or

22:54

something like that shift.

22:57

That's right. Yeah, I

22:57

think I skipped that one

22:59

confused because those posters

22:59

are really similar like I, which

23:02

was pretty good. bordering on

23:02

what could have been really

23:07

good. And this is a similar film

23:07

to this. So it's good. It's well

23:10

worth watching. Somebody came up

23:10

and said they loved it. I went

23:13

okay, cool. And if somebody came

23:13

up with hate it, I can see that.

23:17

But it because the acting is

23:17

good, the effects are good.

23:20

There's just some really, really

23:20

stupid decisions that are made.

23:25

And it suffers a little bit from

23:25

the head and wants and walkaway

23:30

moments which just I just think

23:30

need to be removed from horror

23:33

films now. You got to figure out

23:33

a workaround to that where as

23:38

opposed to Oh, he didn't want to

23:38

the shovel and I'm going to go

23:40

scream and cry and walk away as

23:40

I

23:42

put down the shovel.

23:42

Yes, exactly. Gently on top of

23:47

the body and route the dead

23:47

person's, quote unquote hand

23:50

around the handle. Just so you

23:50

know. It's in safekeeping.

23:53

That's right.

23:54

Like in this situation.

23:54

If this happened to Vanessa, the

23:57

cops would show up and they'd be

23:57

like, okay, so you hit him with

24:00

the shovel and he was down and

24:00

then you looks like you severed

24:03

his head with the shovel. Yeah,

24:04

I would absolutely do

24:04

that. Yeah, cuz like doing it.

24:10

The number of times you watch

24:10

somebody literally like, and

24:14

unfortunately john Carpenter

24:14

started this crap.

24:18

He was like, Oh, yeah, sure enough, he

24:20

started it. He damn near

24:20

perfect,

24:22

perfected it and and he

24:22

has a great quote unquote

24:26

excusive she just didn't even

24:26

like what she was doing and just

24:30

was so appalled that she threw

24:30

it out of her own hands and she

24:33

just couldn't handle the

24:33

violence. Yeah, great. Well, now

24:35

everybody thinks that's just

24:35

normal. And when once you have

24:40

taken the serial killer or

24:40

monster or whatever down quote,

24:44

unquote, just go ahead and turn

24:44

your back immediately toss

24:47

Whatever happened to be in your

24:47

hand at the time and just does

24:50

not one little stroll away.

24:50

Fine.

24:53

I think it was one of the

24:53

few really good parts of screen

24:56

to where they set that up and

24:56

fingers. Courtney Cox was just

25:01

standing there with a gun

25:01

waiting for the person to come

25:03

back to life, which immediately

25:03

shoots them.

25:05

Yes. There you go.

25:05

Yeah, exactly. Just play with

25:10

the opposite end. Yes. The

25:10

opposite end is great.

25:13

Speaking of carpenter, I think I told you guys, I don't know if it was off air or on but

25:15

I was reading a book called

25:19

taking shape, which was Oh,

25:19

yeah, yeah, Halloween franchise,

25:23

an oral history. I picked up

25:23

taking shape too, which is all

25:28

of the unproduced Halloween

25:28

sequels. So holy crap. It's, I

25:32

mean, it's as big as the first

25:32

book. And they didn't go through

25:35

every single one of them. They

25:35

just, they just went through the

25:38

ones that actually had a little

25:38

heat behind them, or had

25:41

somebody important attached to

25:41

it before it went away. And it's

25:44

pretty fascinating stuff.

25:45

Oh, man, I've got to

25:45

pick that so I picked up the

25:48

first taking shape probably the

25:48

same time you did. Because not

25:52

that not crazy long ago, and it

25:52

showed up. And I thought it was

25:55

gonna be like a little book.

25:55

Book, so I just promptly put it

26:00

on my shelf and went, I will get

26:00

to you later.

26:03

Well, it's not the making

26:03

of Halloween. It's the making of

26:05

the entire franchise. And it

26:05

goes all the way to the 2018

26:08

films.

26:09

I haven't picked it up yet. But it's sort of like that one. Phantasm book.

26:12

It's written by the same guy.

26:13

Okay. Oh, that's pretty

26:13

damn good. Yeah.

26:15

Dustin McNeely, I believe

26:15

is that sounds right? Yeah.

26:19

Anyway, why don't we take a little break? We are coming back and we are talking about I guess

26:21

it it would be directors we

26:24

haven't talked about previously.

26:26

Pretty much. Yeah, it was sort of like we were in a situation where we had to record

26:28

differently than we normally do.

26:31

So our time is a little tight.

26:31

He got wide open.

26:36

Which long as you haven't talked about that director before, which was actually a

26:38

little frustrating because you

26:42

don't realize how many people we have talked to.

26:45

He was a really tough

26:45

challenge. I was like, Okay, how

26:48

obscure Can I get at this point?

26:48

And or otherwise? I don't think

26:51

I've talked about Hitchcock

26:51

maybe, I don't

26:54

know. No, no. I basically

26:54

found myself to directors only

26:59

made one film. Yeah,

27:01

it was I was I ended up

27:01

kind of somewhere in there.

27:03

Alright, let's take a break and we will be right back.

27:14

Drive deep into the

27:14

Lost World Jurassic Park and

27:17

experience. Watch out for hidden

27:17

head butters at the Lost World

27:23

site the fuel Depot or they will hit your matchbox

27:26

Humvee breakout to escape. Now

27:31

to the matchbox like the garage

27:31

go up the tower. Beware of

27:34

Raptors who attacked from the ground. But your matchbox

27:35

vorbei porch wraps won a lost

27:40

world Jurassic Park plays at two

27:40

times, I guess vehicles sold

27:42

separately from matchbox

27:51

returned Eric, this was

27:51

your choice. Why don't you start

27:54

us off?

27:56

Okay. really twisted his

27:56

arm. Yeah, so this was sort of

28:01

my opportunity to watch some of

28:01

those seven films that I've seen

28:08

stuff like, which one do I want

28:08

to watch? sufferings kind of

28:13

been up in their game. They're a

28:13

little less vinegar syndrome now

28:17

and a little more shopfactory I

28:17

guess you'd say. But they're

28:21

still very much like 70s and

28:21

Italian films and stuff. But

28:25

this was one from 1973. The name

28:25

is familiar, but it's not that

28:29

film called shock treatment. Not The Rocky Horror Picture

29:45

Show with Richard O'Brien or

29:48

Batman or Bryan. Bryan did his

29:48

really rough sequel The Rocky

29:53

Horror Picture Show. But of

29:53

course, if you probably thought

29:56

that you probably know wasn't in

29:56

1973 anyway, so there's no rhyme

30:00

Tomato ratings on this. There's

30:00

virtually nothing about budget,

30:03

other than a little bit about

30:03

its release in France. This was

30:08

directed by a guy who I've never

30:08

seen anything from and probably

30:11

don't. He did a lot of French

30:11

stuff, but, you know, at he own

30:18

Joshua seems right. But he did

30:18

Frankenstein, 90 colors of the

30:24

devil and the dogs. Well, those

30:24

are the only ones that kind of

30:29

recognized. And he did the music

30:29

with Rene coring on this one. He

30:35

was also the writer based worked

30:35

with Roger Kewell, who did an

30:41

adaptation. But they didn't say

30:41

what adaptation was I remember

30:44

reading that no Can I should go

30:44

look up what this book was and

30:46

then promptly forgot to do that.

30:46

So and Enrico Venezia, who has

30:53

107 writing credits, I recognize

30:53

nothing because they're all in

30:56

Italian or French. All right. It

30:56

stars ironically named Allie on

31:04

the law. So it's alliums all

31:04

over this studio. Day. And he's

31:10

in day and night. 101 nights.

31:10

He's actually, as I was

31:14

researching this, I found out

31:14

this is at the time it came out

31:17

a very famous group of French

31:17

actors. They're very popular, so

31:22

and any guirado who's in cache,

31:22

which fairly recent film, I

31:28

think, I think it was a might

31:28

have been a Lovecraft Film

31:32

Festival film.

31:33

Oh, that sounds familiar now. Yeah.

31:36

The piano teacher and the

31:36

1995 version of Les Moonves.

31:40

Yeah, because Les Miz is to the

31:40

French like Doctor Who is to the

31:43

UK. Every year, there's a new

31:43

one. Somebody's got to be in

31:47

them. And Robert Hirsch, that's

31:47

a French Italian production with

31:51

French and Portuguese spoken

31:51

languages. The basic idea is

31:55

there's a, if you're aware of

31:55

the 70s in any way, culturally,

31:59

the 70s were full of extreme

31:59

versions of yoga type people and

32:07

people looking at essential oils

32:07

and stuff. And they would do

32:13

this was a very expensive clinic

32:13

where people went for cleansings

32:18

of the body.

32:19

Sure to get your biorhythm. And

32:21

exactly, yeah, all that

32:21

was that was huge in the 70s. I

32:24

mean, like, people would lock

32:24

themselves in hotel ballrooms

32:28

for, like, days and not do

32:28

bathroom breaks. It was some

32:32

weird, weird shit went on. I'm

32:32

sure. That's nothing weird goes

32:36

on now, but you know what I

32:36

mean? It appears in a lot of

32:40

movies. And this looks like a

32:40

70s sci fi movie, except of

32:44

wearing instead of wearing like

32:44

jumpsuits, they're wearing

32:46

robes. But everybody's got a

32:46

uniform and everything's crummy

32:51

and white. And everything's

32:51

bright and shiny. opens with a

32:55

kind of a neat little weird folk

32:55

song that I'm like, this sucks,

32:59

but I kind of love it runs

32:59

through the very long opening

33:02

credits. And she gets to the

33:02

clinic and it seems nice

33:09

everything. They go to the first

33:09

dinner and she's eating with her

33:13

friend and he cuts into it.

33:13

She's like, what the hell is

33:15

this? Oh, these are seaweed

33:15

steaks. It's part of the

33:18

treatment.

33:19

Oh,

33:25

slimy, slimy. So

33:26

mine. Well done, please.

33:29

get crispy. And

33:29

occasionally, it's kind of fun

33:33

when you're watching a foreign

33:33

film and you get some

33:35

accidentally accidental child

33:35

humor, where they showed her

33:39

things she was going to be doing

33:39

for the day like massage and

33:43

bath cleaning and the grand

33:43

douche was just a big shower.

33:49

But French had some very

33:49

different

33:54

ironically, Eric's nickname in high school was I saw

33:59

Oh my god.

34:00

So on the wrong side of

34:00

what my nicknames were, but are

34:04

my make fun of names. Anyways.

34:04

The shower was a little

34:09

disconcerting, though because it

34:09

looked like American prison

34:12

movies. When they hose people

34:12

down. sort of look like I'm

34:15

like, Wow, that is not grand.

34:15

Pass starts off fairly slowly as

34:21

the 70s French film is

34:21

definitely going to do detox

34:26

center of annoying wealthy

34:26

people being annoying, wealthy

34:29

people. She's having some fun in

34:29

it though, because she's got

34:34

her. Her gay friend is hanging

34:34

out with her most of the time

34:37

and they do a great job of

34:37

making fun of the people around

34:41

them and stuff. So it's fun to

34:41

watch. She has her first

34:45

treatment, and they don't really

34:45

show you what the treatment is

34:48

it just she goes into a room.

34:48

they inject her with something

34:50

you're going to go to sleep and

34:50

then she wakes up the next day.

34:54

And as researching this film, I

34:54

found out why this film is

34:59

actually Way more notorious than

34:59

it probably would be because

35:02

it's a decent movie, but it's

35:02

not great. But because I

35:07

mentioned earlier, most of these

35:07

French people were incredibly

35:10

popular Actress at the time and

35:10

credibly well known. Like one of

35:15

the more beautiful men in the

35:15

world kind of things or

35:17

something is one of the guys in

35:17

it, who plays the lead doctor.

35:21

And so after the treatment,

35:21

everybody's feeling so great and

35:24

young and frisky. They go and

35:24

have a sauna. They're all naked

35:28

in the sauna. I mean, all all

35:28

men all the Wim, everybody

35:32

shaking around. And then for

35:32

some reason they have a seaweed

35:37

fight seaweed and start throwing

35:37

it at each other. And so then

35:42

they get a little messy. That's

35:42

like, hey, let's go right into

35:45

the ocean. So these eight to 10.

35:45

Almost down the middle, even

35:51

divided men and women go

35:51

frolicking into the ocean. And

35:55

the doctor who's the famous good

35:55

looking guy shows up on the

35:58

beach. And All right, I'll join

35:58

you takes off all his clothes

36:01

and swings his way into the

36:01

water. This scene is incredibly

36:09

long. It feels like it's 10

36:09

minutes long. Maybe this is

36:14

okay, this is weird. didn't

36:14

think much of a time but then

36:18

later eating that. That's why

36:18

the movie was so popular for a

36:20

while is pick your average

36:20

Marvel movie, take a whole bunch

36:24

of those people and put them

36:24

naked frolicking in the ocean.

36:27

And that's sort of what this was

36:27

like, Hello, Chris

36:30

Hemsworth

36:33

for is my God. And then it

36:33

cuts to cuts away to this scene

36:42

of I'm not a particularly big

36:42

fan of lobster. But okay, fine.

36:45

It's popular. But it's the shot

36:45

of people. Have you ever cracked

36:49

open a lobster crab? And there's

36:49

kind of that off color green

36:52

stuff. It was a super close up

36:52

of somebody cracking up a

36:57

lobster and that sort of all

36:57

looked like I'm on? Oh, that's

37:00

that's supposed to be good. What

37:00

is this? Is this like cutting

37:03

into the overly bloody steak? Or

37:03

is this Oh, we're still great

37:07

rich people having a good meal.

37:07

I think it's supposed to be the

37:10

latter by the way. They're so

37:10

seen goes but man that was like

37:13

little the movies a lot about

37:13

battling against aging, the

37:20

concept of getting older and

37:20

losing youth, you know. And she

37:25

gets a warning from the her

37:25

friend about how you need to be

37:30

careful with this. It's

37:30

incredibly addictive, and it can

37:33

get very dangerous. And he ends

37:33

up mysteriously dead the next

37:38

morning after warning her about

37:38

the treatments like oh, okay, so

37:43

he's right. And there's a group

37:43

of workers that work in there is

37:50

where the Portuguese language

37:50

comes from is all the workers

37:53

are purposely brought in to

37:53

speak a different language, they

37:56

can't communicate very well. And

37:56

when it looks like she's going

38:01

to leave, one of those guys

38:01

comes up to her and goes Take me

38:04

with you. I'm not supposed to be

38:04

here. They, if they see me that

38:10

they're going to punish me

38:10

greatly just for talking to you.

38:12

But if you're leaving, please

38:12

take me with you. And she

38:15

doesn't because she doesn't

38:15

really leave. There's, there's

38:18

one giant glaring hole in this

38:18

problem of this film. She tries

38:22

to leave and they say you can't

38:22

leave, basically, because you

38:25

have to pay your bill. But she

38:25

has full access to her car. And

38:31

they leave two or three times in

38:31

the movie to go into the town

38:34

nearby town and have dinner and

38:34

drinks and stuff. My

38:37

wife was just going

38:40

through pain. If you think

38:40

they're gonna kill you, I think

38:43

you could take it off and send

38:43

them a check. But after that,

38:48

she finds out Oh, look, it looks

38:48

like part of the problem with

38:53

this film being this 1970 film

38:53

and it kind of being mysterious

38:57

as to what the things are giving

38:57

you might be when the twists

39:02

come, they're not very twisty

39:02

because like the first, the

39:05

first twist is it's the blood of

39:05

sheep embryos that they're using

39:09

to inject into you as I go to

39:09

sleep experiment experiments on

39:13

animals. Okay, that sounds about

39:13

right, for late 70s, early 70s.

39:18

But no to everybody out there

39:18

who's working, titled if

39:22

somebody is digging through a

39:22

bunch of files, and they're

39:25

obviously reading something on

39:25

that file, and it's on screen,

39:28

and I'm guessing that means it's

39:28

important to subtitle that.

39:34

Shots of like two or three files

39:34

on screen for a good 3040

39:39

seconds. So you know, you're

39:39

supposed to see something there.

39:42

Okay, I'm seeing some words that

39:42

I recognize, but I'm not getting

39:45

anything out of this beyond you

39:45

know, doctor. The sound design

39:49

is very bizarre at times because

39:49

when she starts to get into

39:53

trouble there's a musical use of

39:53

a kind of like a woman's Or

40:01

maybe a younger woman's screen.

40:01

At first is like, why is

40:04

somebody screaming around her?

40:04

Then I realized hold on this is

40:07

kind of flowing with the music.

40:07

And she's now in a tunnel,

40:11

underground and cement alone. So

40:11

I'm guessing the screams are

40:15

part of the soundtrack.

40:18

Like a bad choice in a horror film.

40:20

Yeah, if you're gonna do

40:20

it, make sure it's got an

40:24

abstract. She gets chased by

40:24

dogs at one point, but it's two

40:28

Great Danes, right? And they

40:28

look like they're frolicking. I

40:32

mean, these are great fishes and

40:32

I know they're big. The overall

40:38

ending actually ends up being

40:38

fairly good when she finally

40:41

confronts the doctor and there's

40:41

a confrontation between her and

40:43

the doctor. What saves the film

40:43

as these are popular actors, so

40:47

they're good. The acting in this

40:47

film is universally very good

40:53

and subtle wood, which is great

40:53

because a movie like this can

40:57

very easily turn into

40:57

melodramatic, which it does at

41:00

times, but the acting never gets

41:00

melodramatic. So you don't feel

41:03

like you're being manipulated,

41:03

like you do with overacting

41:08

groups. So it was and that's

41:08

what made the film work. It's

41:13

It's commonly directed since I guess we're supposed to be talking about directors. I don't

41:15

know. It's my subject. But it's

41:20

rare. It is very well directed.

41:20

It's moves at a for a slow 70s

41:25

sci fi film, it actually moves

41:25

at a pretty good pace. Things

41:28

get done well. mysteries aren't

41:28

brought up and forgotten. And

41:36

the right people are assholes

41:36

and the right people are nice.

41:39

It just it works. It's a good

41:39

film. But sorry, is good. I was

41:45

at the time in a grumpy crappy

41:45

place. Watch this. If I can even

41:49

talk about this stupid movie

41:49

then I thought about it while he

41:51

was gone. All right. Okay, hold

41:51

on. This was better than I gave

41:54

it credit for some trivia notes.

41:54

In the UK, it was released as

42:01

Doctor in the nude. They didn't

42:01

even play around. Just like he

42:08

gets what you're getting in

42:08

this. That's why you want to

42:11

watch this one. The lead actress

42:11

says in her biography that the

42:18

lead guy actually slapped her

42:18

very hard. Because apparently

42:23

she had left her husband who is

42:23

the lead actress best friend.

42:29

Oh,

42:31

bang, like in the scene?

42:33

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So watch

42:33

this and go Damn, no, it was a

42:38

brutal, because it was a real

42:38

couple little interesting

42:43

reviews here. Timeout wrote

42:43

Joshua, Joshua, how he says

42:47

handles his mixture of suspense

42:47

and satire with assurance,

42:50

drawing fine performances from

42:50

Godot confused, and finally

42:55

uncertain of her sanity, which

42:55

actually she does very well. I

42:58

like that in movies, when you've

42:58

got an actor's performing. who's

43:01

losing their mind? And as you're

43:01

watching it, you're kind of

43:03

going well, Am I understanding

43:03

this at all? And she's very good

43:09

at that. A neat cautionary table

43:09

on human vanity comm fable about

43:13

hypocrisy. And it, it's good.

43:13

It's not an earth shattering.

43:19

You know, in 1973, we're doing

43:19

our urine review, it wouldn't be

43:22

in my top five, but it would be

43:22

in my honorable mentions. I

43:25

think so. 1973 shock treatment.

43:28

All right. Very cool.

43:28

Well, my particular pick is

43:32

available on Netflix, and has

43:32

been for quite some time, so

43:36

hard to get.

43:38

No one has no foot. Um,

43:38

so since we're going with

43:43

directors that we hadn't really

43:43

talked about before, I had like

43:47

a list of people I was trying to

43:47

like, go through and figure out

43:51

who was interesting to talk

43:51

about and because I thought most

43:55

will actually talk about the

43:55

director. But I'm crazy. So

44:00

yeah. So I came across this one

44:00

director and I saw the film that

44:07

she had done and I was like,

44:07

man, I I would love to explore

44:11

her a little bit more. So I

44:11

picked Karen Kazuma, who

44:17

directed the 2015 film The

44:17

invitation as a singer,

44:25

so ever, they're

44:25

overcompensating kind of hard to

44:29

call everybody up out of the blue. We've got so much to celebrate

44:36

tonight. She's on a journey, and

44:43

we feel that it's important to

44:43

be on that journey with the

44:47

people you love. Everybody, this is my friend

44:50

Pruitt. Those

45:06

suspicious hospitality

45:24

you've been handling

45:24

things he can be self

45:26

destructive. I think he's doing

45:26

the best he can

45:36

we don't see you for

45:36

two years and then all of a

45:38

sudden we get invited to this

45:38

lavish dinner. Don't tell me

45:44

that this is normal.

45:47

What do you think is happening? Well

45:52

disappoint us tonight

45:52

is the night our faith is made

45:56

real

46:28

excellent film.

46:29

It's I already knew I

46:29

love this film. So and I'm

46:33

probably have mentioned it in

46:33

passing, but I've never really

46:36

done like a deep dive on it. So

46:36

it was it was fun to check out.

46:41

So Rotten Tomatoes. kind of

46:41

surprising. Actually. It was 89%

46:45

critics, which is not surprising

46:45

and 69% audience which was

46:50

really it was a little rough

46:50

guys.

46:52

I guess it's an oddly

46:52

paced film. It is a slow.

46:55

Yeah, it is a bit of a

46:55

slow burn is low budget. The

46:59

budget was 1 million. The box

46:59

office was 354 point. Sorry,

47:05

354,835. worldwide. But it was a

47:05

festival film that pretty much

47:12

immediately went on to streaming

47:12

so again, not surprised. I'm

47:18

starring one of my favorite

47:18

actors. Not Tom Hardy, aka

47:24

Logan, Marshall green. This I

47:24

think was the film that I saw

47:28

him and that was like, why is

47:28

Tom Hardy in this movie?

47:32

forevermore, Logan, Marshall,

47:32

Marshall green, who I actually

47:36

enjoy at this point more than

47:36

Tom Hardy. makes me so happy.

47:40

And I had talked about him

47:40

previously. In devil. He's also

47:44

an awesome film called upgrade.

47:44

He's in Prometheus for a hot

47:48

sec. And he did a ton of TV. I

47:48

didn't realize he was in like

47:52

the OC 24 bunch of film. I saw a

47:52

bunch of TV I'd never heard of

47:58

including traveller, dark blue

47:58

Corey damnation and shadow play.

48:02

But he then bounced around for a

48:02

while. The other stars that are

48:08

in this that are recognizable

48:08

because they're it's kind of an

48:10

ensemble cast. Tammy Blanchard

48:10

is Eden his ex wife. You might

48:17

recognize her from maybe like

48:17

Moneyball or in the woods. She's

48:21

been in 53 things. But what you

48:21

should know her for is her lead

48:26

and Gypsy where she won a Tony.

48:26

Whoo. So that was kind of the

48:33

main thing I was like, man she

48:33

I'm surprised she is I'm more

48:36

acting credits. Oh, it's because

48:36

she's like a Broadway singer

48:40

person. Um, then you get john

48:40

Carroll Lynch. Who is that

48:46

creepy guy who's in everything.

48:46

He plays a creepy guy and this

48:51

one? unsurprising he's been in

48:51

123 things. I'm including in

48:57

Zodiac he plays Arthur Leigh

48:57

Allen Fargo, he plays no worm

49:02

and Big Sky which I just saw my

49:02

mom watching so I I've picked up

49:07

random parts of it. He's the

49:07

evil cop. Also American horror

49:12

stories Mr. jingles so and I do

49:12

have to do one special extra

49:17

mention which is I watched him

49:17

in channel zero as the kind of

49:23

creepy dad character and he's

49:23

freaking awesome. And so anyway,

49:28

creepy character in that right?

49:28

He did. He did. I know. It's

49:31

kind of really against hope for

49:31

him. But he did a very good job

49:35

of having this line of work

49:35

line, the line between being a

49:40

sweet father and a horrifying

49:40

killing, non thinking killing

49:45

object. And then the last recognizable

49:47

person in this is probably Toby

49:51

Huss, who plays kind of this

49:51

really weird part of just being

49:54

a doctor on a tape that they

49:54

watch a few times. But he's been

49:59

100 149 things, including he's

49:59

texts in glow, that was kind of

50:06

the thing that I recognized him

50:06

from. He started off in

50:09

Adventures of Pete and Pete, as

50:09

already, which is weird. He's

50:13

just been in everything since

50:13

then I guess. And he's a several

50:16

voices and venture brothers. So

50:16

that was kind of cool. And then

50:20

there's a bunch of people who

50:20

are unknown. Except for you

50:24

might might recognize this guy

50:24

named Jody, this villa Sue. So

50:30

who plays a guy named Miguel,

50:30

he's been in like, every soap

50:35

opera ever. He was in 277

50:35

episodes of Young and the

50:39

Restless 75 episodes of Days of

50:39

Our Lives, and 139 of all my

50:43

children. So Way to go, dude. So

50:43

story and his will, the main

50:51

character who's played by Logan,

50:51

Marshall green is invited by

50:56

invitation to get it to a dinner

50:56

party, with a bunch of close

51:04

friends who's being it's being

51:04

hosted by his ex wife, who no

51:08

one has seen in two years. When

51:08

he arrives, he's flooded with

51:12

the emotions and kind of bad

51:12

memories of the house he used to

51:17

live in, because that is where

51:17

his young son died. So

51:22

definitely very awkward moment

51:22

where he's basically entering

51:25

this home where it's like his

51:25

best friends, like their best

51:29

friends as a couple are also

51:29

thrilled to see him and get back

51:33

together. And then his weird ass

51:33

ex wife shows up definitely has

51:38

not been in a cold or something

51:38

for several years. So the party

51:43

basically goes from stranger to

51:43

stranger, when his ex who's also

51:47

hosting the party with her new

51:47

boyfriend, and they live in the

51:51

couple's old house. So wills,

51:51

very much a third fifth 20th

51:55

wheel and this and then several

51:55

members of their cult show up.

52:00

The cult is also called the

52:00

invitation

52:05

ception No,

52:07

right how many layers

52:07

of invitation happen? Um, so

52:12

basically, as the as the film

52:12

progresses, you're kind of going

52:15

in and out of these sort of

52:15

memories that will has of his

52:17

son and the the breakup of him

52:17

and his wife. Things just get

52:24

weirder and weirder. And because

52:24

you're seeing it through his

52:26

perspective, you're kind of

52:26

balancing this line of is he

52:31

just not in the right headspace

52:31

and he's reading everything

52:33

wrong? Or is it really fucking

52:33

weird. And most of the time, it

52:39

feels just really fucking weird

52:39

one, one of the cult members

52:42

who's hanging out in the house

52:42

is this girl who's down the

52:45

hall, he sees her kind of in the

52:45

shadows, and she's just standing

52:48

there with no underwear. Hill

52:48

hanging out, like Yo, what's up.

52:53

And then next time he sees her,

52:53

she's wearing like a very nice,

52:56

flimsy little dress. And it's

52:56

like, okay, that's interesting.

53:00

He sees his wife, his ex wife

53:00

through a glass door, taking a

53:06

bunch of pills, and he doesn't

53:06

know what's going on with that.

53:09

And then someone who is meant

53:09

meant to arrive early and left a

53:15

voicemail for him, it just isn't

53:15

there. And so he starts to get

53:18

suspicious about like, Where on

53:18

earth this guy is. And then on

53:22

top of it all, the ex wife's new

53:22

boyfriend is sharing with them

53:27

all these weird cold things like

53:27

showing them like a kind of

53:31

introducing the cold video where

53:31

someone literally dies on it.

53:34

And it's very odd. And then it

53:34

doesn't do all these weird games

53:40

where it's like, we're not going

53:40

to play Never have I ever we're

53:44

going to play the thing I wish

53:44

for. And it it just everything

53:48

about it gets cringy and strange

53:48

and just off putting, but in the

53:52

meantime, you know, the friends

53:52

are all they're trying to be

53:55

supportive of both people and

53:55

the relationship and they're

53:58

just so happy to see each other.

53:58

So they're kind of like, dude,

54:02

you got to stop reading into

54:02

this look. Yeah, okay, she's in

54:05

some weird thing, but this is

54:05

her way of getting through the

54:07

loss of your son. So the big

54:07

question is, is will crazy or

54:12

something truly fucked up going

54:12

on? No one believes him. But

54:17

they do acknowledge how hard it

54:17

is for him to be there. And I

54:20

won't. I won't answer that

54:20

question. Because it really

54:24

happens pretty close to the end

54:24

of the film, when you find out

54:27

whether or not things are bad.

54:27

But I will say as far as things

54:32

that are great about this film,

54:32

that the choices at the end are

54:37

phenomenal. I do like that the

54:37

film isn't too long considering

54:41

it's definitely like a bottle

54:41

kind of film. You're really in

54:44

this one space the whole time.

54:44

Great acting. Oh my god the

54:49

acting in this like this is a

54:49

film I feel like we've all seen

54:52

before. Where there's a dinner

54:52

party of friends and things

54:56

weird things happen. It because

54:56

of the actors And this, it feels

55:01

so naturalistic. And so kind of

55:01

real that ever a lot of those

55:07

tropes are forgiven. And the

55:07

characters are interesting.

55:10

You've got like a gay couple,

55:10

you have cross fingers, the

55:16

right word, cross, the cross

55:16

racial, a couple you have like,

55:19

I mean, they're just like, yeah,

55:19

these are just people. This is

55:22

just normal, interesting, cool

55:22

people that he would, of course,

55:25

have been friends with. And it

55:25

just feels very, very good. The

55:29

relationship between will and

55:29

the X is extremely well done.

55:34

Their connection, even though

55:34

they're both kind of on

55:36

different sides of align now

55:36

feels really palatable. And the

55:41

strangeness that has happened

55:41

feels real. They don't have like

55:45

that many sit down convos of,

55:45

Hey, isn't it strange that our

55:49

son is dead, and we're here

55:49

together at this party, but

55:52

there's enough like looks and

55:52

glances and moments and like

55:57

when she greets him at the door,

55:57

she gives him like a really

56:00

intimate hug. And he's, he's

56:00

there with his new girlfriend.

56:03

And it feels awkward to us. But

56:03

also like, Oh, these people have

56:07

a past. And you can see it just

56:07

in the way that they touch each

56:11

other. The tension is built up

56:11

extremely well, the strange

56:15

things that are happening feel

56:15

very strange. And they just do a

56:20

lot with very little. The things

56:20

that aren't great about it. I

56:24

guess it can be a little

56:24

frustrating that no one is

56:27

listening to him or believes

56:27

him. The wife is also super for

56:30

for a fra you know what I mean?

56:30

She's like, Really? It's like

56:36

the cold tea like, oh, we're

56:36

feeling the earth and like,

56:39

we're all gonna eat this organic

56:39

food. And yeah, that kind of

56:43

stuff. That is a little

56:43

irritating. The coal crap is

56:47

kind of irritating. It is a slow

56:47

burn. So you do need patience,

56:50

and no offense, Kelly, but I

56:50

think when people are the worst

57:03

la wine people are the worst of

57:03

the worst, which is what we're

57:06

watching. Um, you know, like,

57:06

my, my interaction with wine

57:09

culture is very different than

57:09

your interaction. So watching

57:14

people who are very proud of

57:14

themselves for drinking wine,

57:18

drink wine and talk about how

57:18

proud of themselves they are

57:21

about it is very difficult for

57:21

me to enter.

57:25

hurtful.

57:28

It's not about you,

57:28

okay. Hold you out. No, because

57:35

I don't want you to feel bad.

57:35

It's just there's all this

57:37

baggage. I have like a car full

57:37

of baggage in my trunk, all

57:41

related to wine. And so I just

57:41

want you to know before I get in

57:45

the car, what's going on here?

57:45

Because we're talking about this

57:51

director, and I really was

57:51

excited to get into her. Karen

57:55

Cousteau. Kusama, so she

57:55

originally directed a couple of

57:59

other films we might recognize

57:59

girl fight, which is where

58:02

Michelle Rodriguez comes from a

58:02

on flux Jennifer's body. And

58:08

then she did a lot of TV

58:08

followed by most recently

58:11

destroyer. She also was one of

58:11

the producers on leap of faith.

58:18

I don't know what that

58:18

is. What are these words you

58:20

should look into it? I

58:20

think you dig it's more of that.

58:23

William?

58:24

Wait a second. So you're

58:24

saying this is Director we've

58:27

already talked about?

58:28

You have mentioned a

58:28

film in which she produced

58:33

produced did not direct did not

58:33

direct.

58:36

Remember when you talked

58:36

about girl fight for about an

58:38

hour.

58:39

I do remember that.

58:42

She also wrote she only

58:42

wrote one thing ever, which is

58:45

her segment on xx, the kind of

58:45

girl and the horror anthology.

58:50

She did the segment her only

58:50

living son. So Karen was born in

58:55

68. from Brooklyn, New York went

58:55

to NYU Tisch School, initially

59:00

worked as an editor on

59:00

documentaries and did some indie

59:03

film and music videos. And then

59:03

was a nanny, and also painted

59:08

houses. So she had a nice like,

59:08

worked her way up through the

59:11

system. When Nanaimo. She met

59:11

john Sayles who basically she

59:17

acted as his assistant for three

59:17

years, and then was with him

59:21

when he made Lonestar men with

59:21

guns and limbo. And then she

59:26

wrote a screenplay in 1992 right

59:26

around the time she got really

59:31

into boxing. Yeah, and that's

59:31

where girl fight came out. It

59:36

worked out well. Yeah, really,

59:36

really did. Um, she wrote and

59:41

directed her first feature at 31

59:41

girl fight. And that was

59:46

partially financed by sales

59:46

released in 2001. A ton of stuff

59:51

did well at Sundance did well

59:51

can actually did break even

59:54

financially but didn't make a

59:54

profit. Still, she ended up

59:58

getting to do an influx. With

59:58

Charlize Theron, which had a

1:00:01

budget of 62 million, it was

1:00:01

basically sliced and diced and

1:00:06

taken from her and then gross 10

1:00:06

million below budget. So,

1:00:12

obviously, she was struggling to

1:00:12

get more work. But she did

1:00:15

manage to get Jennifer's body

1:00:15

written by Diablo Cody, starring

1:00:20

megan fox that grossed 31

1:00:20

million million on a budget of

1:00:24

16. So from there Yeah,

1:00:24

basically she ended up in TV for

1:00:32

a long time after that,

1:00:32

basically. Yeah, exactly. Like

1:00:35

you said,

1:00:36

but I'm curious to kind of

1:00:36

revisit that now. It's sort of

1:00:40

popping up again is one of those

1:00:40

like you guys, take another look

1:00:42

at this movies. I remember

1:00:42

thinking it was just done. Okay.

1:00:46

Yeah, but I don't think

1:00:46

I saw it. But if I did, I

1:00:49

probably don't remember because

1:00:49

I think it was one of those dull

1:00:52

But okay, slightly, like,

1:00:52

supernaturally, but you get a

1:00:56

sword. Kind of, I mean,

1:00:56

invitation is so well done. It's

1:01:00

just hard to eat some. It's

1:01:00

definitely interest. Yeah, so

1:01:04

2015 her husband, Phil, hey, and

1:01:04

his writing partner partner,

1:01:09

Matt men Friday, wrote it. It

1:01:09

was funded through kind of a

1:01:13

special project called Game

1:01:13

Changer films, which is a fund

1:01:17

to help women directors, so it

1:01:17

was kind of a way for her to

1:01:21

have a second chance. So this

1:01:21

film premiered in 2015 at South

1:01:27

by and then it was released by

1:01:27

Drafthouse, and it actually it

1:01:30

wants some pretty good stuff.

1:01:30

They got the Critics Award at

1:01:34

noctel International Film Fest

1:01:34

and busts of switches, and the

1:01:38

golden octopus at strausberg

1:01:38

euro Fantastic Film Fest. So the

1:01:42

inspiration for the invitation

1:01:42

came from her own personal

1:01:45

experiences. She had actually

1:01:45

lost her brother when she was

1:01:48

really young. But I didn't see

1:01:48

anything about her joining a

1:01:51

cult. So yeah, it was shot in

1:01:51

sequence and cost 1 million.

1:01:57

Yeah, I know. That's why I

1:01:57

thought I was like that's kind

1:02:00

of cool. shot over 20 days in

1:02:00

LA, and she got full creative

1:02:05

control. That was kind of the

1:02:05

the big thing for her. At that

1:02:10

point. Actually, when destroyer

1:02:10

came up, Nicole Kidman actually

1:02:14

lobbied for the part after

1:02:14

reading the script. She was so

1:02:17

excited to jump on that film. So

1:02:17

at this point, this character

1:02:22

demands Final Cut or she will

1:02:22

not work on the film that is

1:02:25

kind of her new stance. She's

1:02:25

noted as having strong feminist

1:02:29

themes, and almost all of her

1:02:29

films have a female protagonist

1:02:32

except for the invitations.

1:02:32

Right? And she likes flawed and

1:02:36

ambiguous characters. She also

1:02:36

just a couple of fun quotes from

1:02:42

her to wrap this up. She said, I

1:02:42

revisit Roman Polanski's

1:02:47

Rosemary's Baby, at least every

1:02:47

year, that film is endlessly

1:02:51

watchable, funny, scary, and a

1:02:51

sly feminist fable about the

1:02:54

pitfalls of patriarchy. And she

1:02:54

said, I think Toby Hooper's the

1:02:58

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is one

1:02:58

of the greatest art films of all

1:03:02

time. So she's definitely a fan

1:03:02

of the genre. And I'm hoping

1:03:05

that, you know, we see more of

1:03:05

her in the future.

1:03:09

Well, all right, I think

1:03:09

Vanessa took up all my time too,

1:03:12

so that's the Oh my God, I'm

1:03:15

sorry. I I felt it as I

1:03:15

was doing it, too. I tried to be

1:03:20

so short in the front half and

1:03:20

then I just I did too much

1:03:23

research. I'm

1:03:24

sorry guys. Just gonna

1:03:24

open some wine here. Too much.

1:03:28

Wine and a kid's party.

1:03:30

Oh my God. That is wine.

1:03:30

That is why

1:03:34

it's definitely wine

1:03:34

guys.

1:03:36

I'm sure they're nice

1:03:36

bubbles in that way.

1:03:39

Alright, guys, well, let

1:03:39

me just say this. I chose

1:03:42

poorly.

1:03:43

How did you Oh no.

1:03:45

I chose from 1991 or 1989

1:03:45

depending on who you're asking.

1:03:49

Okay, popcorn.

1:04:01

Before the horror of

1:04:01

Halloween before the feet of

1:04:06

Friday the 13th before there

1:04:16

was something happening.

1:04:33

Someone shakes her hand she's running

1:05:05

Buy a bag in a box

1:05:16

Oh, okay. I couldn't find

1:05:16

those budget. The box offices

1:05:21

was 4 million ish. Rotten

1:05:21

Tomatoes critics have it at 37%

1:05:26

the audience has it at 41% it

1:05:26

was directed by Mark Harrier who

1:05:32

nothing really to speak of,

1:05:32

since this except that he is an

1:05:36

actor and he has been in

1:05:36

Porky's, Porky's revenge,

1:05:41

Freddy's nightmares, a ton of

1:05:41

other things, but most recently

1:05:45

a recurring role on the Bosch TV

1:05:45

series is on Amazon crypto. It

1:05:51

was written by Alan Ormsby, who

1:05:51

will my bodyguard, the cat

1:05:55

people remake and all of the

1:05:55

substitute movies and says Jill

1:06:00

Shaolin was the daughter in the

1:06:00

stepfather. She was also in

1:06:04

purse too, and when a stranger

1:06:04

calls back, Tom Dillard who was

1:06:09

in parasite Greece two and one

1:06:09

crazy summer, and D. Wallace,

1:06:13

who is pretty much genre royalty

1:06:13

253 credits, including the

1:06:18

howling, et Cujo and critters. I

1:06:18

thought this movie was something

1:06:24

else when I picked it. Okay. And

1:06:24

if if one of the listeners can

1:06:28

help me out, that sounds like

1:06:28

something Joe, Sherlock with no,

1:06:32

I was looking for a film where a

1:06:32

film festival happens if I

1:06:36

remember correctly. And then,

1:06:36

like some kind of monster comes

1:06:41

out of the films and attacks all

1:06:41

the people watching the films

1:06:45

and this would have been a late

1:06:45

80s early 90s film, I think

1:06:49

that's what happened. I thought

1:06:49

that's what this was. I mean,

1:06:51

not demons. Not Deena.

1:06:53

Yeah.

1:06:56

This one starts off with

1:06:56

this a nightmare sequence and

1:06:59

our lead wakes up and she tells

1:06:59

her mom, that she's having these

1:07:03

nightmares about this man who's

1:07:03

trying to kill her and all this.

1:07:07

She is a indie film student at a

1:07:07

little college and she's

1:07:12

preparing a script, the film

1:07:12

teacher, he is going to allow

1:07:18

the kids they've worked out this

1:07:18

deal with this old theater

1:07:22

called the dreamland that had

1:07:22

been destroyed by fire early

1:07:25

before. And they are going to

1:07:25

show their films The student

1:07:28

films there. So they're putting

1:07:28

on like a little Film Festival

1:07:32

in their own film. But while

1:07:32

they're preparing all this, the

1:07:37

theater and everything they find

1:07:37

this film in there called

1:07:39

position, which is about a guy

1:07:39

named lanyard gates, who was a

1:07:44

kind of like a, he was insane,

1:07:44

maybe a little bit of a mad

1:07:48

scientist, although they never

1:07:48

come back to that. He just seems

1:07:50

more like a like a culty kind of

1:07:50

guy. And he recorded this film,

1:07:56

which is his attempt to

1:07:56

sacrifice this person. And

1:08:01

they're going to they see this

1:08:01

and they're like, Oh my God, we

1:08:04

got to make this part of the

1:08:04

festival. It's amazing. From

1:08:08

there, a lot of shit happens

1:08:08

that I didn't quite get there's

1:08:10

a real nightmare dream logic to

1:08:10

this that I I was like, is this

1:08:16

a movie? I thought it was or

1:08:16

isn't it because there are

1:08:19

scenes that felt like, I'm

1:08:19

probably you know, mashing two

1:08:22

films together or something or

1:08:22

trying to find this. What

1:08:27

there's this this crazy mosquito

1:08:27

monster up in the rafters that

1:08:31

is part of the film festival

1:08:31

thing that they're going to be

1:08:34

using kind of like in a castle,

1:08:34

castle wooden castle town think

1:08:39

the film teacher is killed by

1:08:39

this mosquito thing, you know,

1:08:45

stabs through him. But then the

1:08:45

next. The next thing we see is

1:08:49

that guy, the teacher who goes

1:08:49

and kills one of the students.

1:08:54

And then the next thing we see

1:08:54

is that student who goes and

1:08:58

kills a different student in

1:08:58

your you're sitting what is

1:09:01

actually going on here. And it

1:09:01

turns out that one of the

1:09:08

students is actually the guy who

1:09:08

made the film and died in the

1:09:14

fire earlier, with amazing

1:09:14

Hollywood effects masks on him

1:09:19

to cover his burned skin. And so

1:09:19

that as he's killing these

1:09:23

people, he's making these

1:09:23

prosthetics that he can then

1:09:27

were to kill the next person.

1:09:27

Wow,

1:09:32

he is the greatest makeup

1:09:32

artist ever.

1:09:36

Yes. This is really

1:09:36

really stupid. I was so unhappy.

1:09:40

Is this vinegar

1:09:40

syndrome?

1:09:42

Well, it's I don't know,

1:09:42

but it's on Amazon. Oh, okay.

1:09:46

Yeah, I think I looked

1:09:46

at buying this and they're big

1:09:48

sale and I came very close. So

1:09:51

now I'm visually as far as

1:09:51

poster wise, I always get this

1:09:55

confused with Fade to black. Oh, no,

1:09:57

that's what I'm doing. Fade to black.

1:09:58

Fade to Black is a good

1:09:58

thing. Moving on. Okay, gotcha.

1:10:01

Good, but not. So then they show

1:10:01

the movie possession, which was

1:10:07

his attempt to sacrifice

1:10:07

somebody and now he's got the

1:10:09

main girl Maggie. And he's going

1:10:09

to sacrifice her like,

1:10:14

simulcasts with this film that

1:10:14

he's brought alive. And I mean,

1:10:23

I'll, I'll, I will spoil this

1:10:23

because it's shit with a big

1:10:28

huge mosquito thing comes off

1:10:28

the rafters and plummets and

1:10:32

kills him. And, and the audience

1:10:32

goes crazy because they think

1:10:37

they've just watched this great

1:10:37

live action thing while this

1:10:42

film was playing behind it. None

1:10:42

of them realized that this was

1:10:46

what it was.

1:10:50

You know, I had a similar

1:10:50

you guys know, this week was

1:10:55

kind of a mess. If had been an

1:10:55

average week, I might have taken

1:10:59

the film I watched and done and

1:10:59

done a different one as well. I

1:11:03

mean, I like definitely more

1:11:03

than you like yours. But after I

1:11:06

was done, it's like, I should have done the hitcher.

1:11:09

Oh, well, that's just it.

1:11:09

I we were on kind of a crunch.

1:11:14

Yeah. And I was like okay.

1:11:14

Anyway, um, there is a little

1:11:19

bit of trivia here that's kind

1:11:19

of interesting, in that this

1:11:26

this was obviously a troubled

1:11:26

production, and nobody was

1:11:29

really happy with it. Such a box

1:11:29

office disappointment in the US

1:11:34

that in many markets, and I

1:11:34

don't even know if people

1:11:36

remember that there used to be

1:11:36

these kind of theaters. It

1:11:39

bypassed first run theaters, I

1:11:39

went right to the second run

1:11:42

theaters. And there were these

1:11:42

little dollar theaters, you can

1:11:45

see a movie that had come out

1:11:45

six months earlier than it

1:11:48

finally made it to the dollar

1:11:48

cinema. Well, this one would

1:11:51

premiere at Dollar cinemas.

1:11:51

That's how I was doing. The

1:11:57

title popcorn was linked to an

1:11:57

element in the story. But this

1:12:01

element was removed. Beautiful,

1:12:01

the producers and distributor

1:12:06

like the title. So it was Kevin

1:12:06

Kevin. Wow. No popcorn movie.

1:12:10

He can shoehorn that in, I

1:12:10

guess.

1:12:13

Yeah. And finally, while

1:12:13

the film flopped in cinemas, it

1:12:15

has since become a classic among

1:12:15

horror fans. I mean, I will. I'd

1:12:20

like to meet those horror fans.

1:12:20

Largely due to its homage to

1:12:24

William castle, who is known for

1:12:24

creating theater gags, such as

1:12:27

the ones depicted in popcorn.

1:12:30

Just watch a matinee

1:12:30

instead. If you want to

1:12:33

reminisce about what the castle

1:12:35

Yeah, this is one of

1:12:35

those movies it was shot in

1:12:38

Jamaica and weird. Well, you

1:12:38

know, most movies are shot in

1:12:43

different locations, depending

1:12:43

on who will give them a tax

1:12:46

break or, you know, whatever.

1:12:46

And, and then they dress these

1:12:50

sets up we see all the time

1:12:50

horror films are being shot

1:12:53

somewhere in Romania is really

1:12:53

right now. And so you have to

1:12:57

then kind of throw American

1:12:57

license plates on the cars that

1:13:00

are parked on streets and try to

1:13:00

hide the fact that their street

1:13:03

signs look way different than

1:13:03

ours. This one suffers from that

1:13:07

because you're watching stuff.

1:13:07

And I'm not exactly sure where

1:13:10

it's supposed to take place. But

1:13:10

then, just in a real quick

1:13:13

scene, there's like a big palm

1:13:13

tree. And you know what? The

1:13:19

fuck is this? I thought this was

1:13:19

supposed to be Chicago, and I

1:13:22

suppose there are probably palm

1:13:22

trees somewhere. But you

1:13:26

wouldn't make it a point of

1:13:26

showing it if you wanted people

1:13:29

to think you're in Chicago. So,

1:13:29

yeah, that's my movie. I didn't

1:13:34

love it. But I'm certainly glad

1:13:34

that I got to listen to Vanessa

1:13:37

talk about her movie.

1:13:41

You know what? I just

1:13:41

research and I wanted to

1:13:44

the impressive part about

1:13:44

the invitation though about

1:13:46

you're talking about it was

1:13:46

that's a hard movie to talk

1:13:49

about. Without

1:13:50

Yes.

1:13:52

Yeah. Not a lot really

1:13:52

happens per se. It's not like a

1:13:56

plot movie.

1:13:57

No. There's a lot of

1:13:57

like, looks and glances and

1:14:00

emotions and then the things

1:14:00

happen that happen again.

1:14:05

And well. And yet you

1:14:05

still managed to to really long

1:14:10

run an insult to me. Because I

1:14:10

drink wine.

1:14:13

I count that as a

1:14:13

success frankly.

1:14:16

Bonus. Well Vanessa wins.

1:14:20

Oh, God.

1:14:23

I don't want to win. I

1:14:23

drink wine because I'm an

1:14:25

alcoholic. That makes because

1:14:25

I'm a snob that actually makes

1:14:28

me feel much better.

1:14:32

It's a different thing

1:14:32

in the UK. Okay, that's all I'm

1:14:35

gonna say people who like women

1:14:35

who drink wine in the UK. It's a

1:14:39

different thing.

1:14:40

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I

1:14:40

guess.

1:14:45

I mean,

1:14:45

I'm just going to have my

1:14:45

keep you in this hole for like,

1:14:50

I just I don't know

1:14:50

what it's like over here because

1:14:52

I don't drink wine over here.

1:14:54

Obviously, people are

1:14:54

wine from Why can't I think of

1:14:59

his name. He played Snape in the

1:14:59

Harry Potter movies and um, he

1:15:04

was in a movie that we saw at

1:15:04

Sif and he played the snobby

1:15:08

British Oh wine guy and he was

1:15:08

trying to explain to the the

1:15:12

California winemaker, it's like,

1:15:12

You think I'm, you think I'm a

1:15:17

snob because I'm British, but

1:15:17

I'm not. You think I'm a snob

1:15:22

because I drink wine or

1:15:22

something? He's like, I'm not

1:15:26

I'm just British. I'm trying to everybody's Yeah,

1:15:32

everybody's yelling at us right

1:15:34

now. Because we can all see him

1:15:34

he was he was the hero and,

1:15:37

truly, madly, deeply. He's

1:15:38

actually one of the

1:15:38

people. Because I always want to

1:15:41

say Rowan Atkinson, which is not true.

1:15:43

Spoon because it would hope more.

1:15:48

Alright, guys, I think

1:15:48

I've got the next choice, and

1:15:51

I'm going to make it work. Wait

1:15:51

a second. Do I have an extra?

1:15:55

No. For you stealing it

1:15:55

from?

1:15:58

You cannot make it work.

1:16:00

Okay, well

1:16:01

tell. Let

1:16:02

me let me tell you what

1:16:02

we're gonna do next week since

1:16:05

you don't know. Um, we're gonna

1:16:05

do me, myself and I where you

1:16:14

can explore the multi faceted

1:16:14

version of a singular person. So

1:16:21

maybe they have split

1:16:21

personalities. Maybe they have

1:16:24

broken multiple

1:16:25

people.

1:16:26

Yeah, there we go. Alan

1:16:26

Rickman, thank you for doing

1:16:29

that. Because otherwise everyone

1:16:29

would have murdered so they

1:16:31

probably already have

1:16:31

edit all that out and just

1:16:34

tune out. Just put that

1:16:34

word in and then have me

1:16:38

continue talking be great. But

1:16:38

yes, so you can you can go about

1:16:43

this a lot of ways you can do

1:16:43

like a Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. You

1:16:46

can all kinds of ways you could

1:16:46

even do possessor like two

1:16:50

people fighting for one

1:16:50

consciousness. But yeah, so it's

1:16:53

a wide open plane.

1:16:54

This is actually a great

1:16:54

topic. And it's weird that it

1:16:58

took us this long to get to it.

1:17:00

I'm also surprised it

1:17:00

was available as a topic to

1:17:03

choose. So yay,

1:17:05

well done.

1:17:06

All right. Well, thanks

1:17:06

to everybody. for the kind words

1:17:10

as usual, we're coming into 2021

1:17:10

hot, as evidenced by Vanessa's

1:17:15

mean spirited.

1:17:17

I'm feeling like see.

1:17:20

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1:17:20

so much. I appreciate the two of

1:17:23

you coming up here, as usual,

1:17:23

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1:17:27

other? And we'll be talking

1:17:27

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