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Episode 357: When Scientists Ate Mammoth Meat

Released Monday, 4th December 2023
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Episode 357: When Scientists Ate Mammoth Meat

Episode 357: When Scientists Ate Mammoth Meat

Episode 357: When Scientists Ate Mammoth Meat

Episode 357: When Scientists Ate Mammoth Meat

Monday, 4th December 2023
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0:02

Strange Animals Podcast.

0:07

Welcome to Strange Animals

0:10

Podcast. I'm your host,

0:12

Kate Shaw. We've talked about

0:14

mammoths and other ice age megafauna plenty

0:17

of times before, but this week we're

0:19

going to learn something specific and really

0:21

weird about these animals. Although it's more

0:23

accurate to say we're going to learn

0:26

how weird humans are. You

0:28

may have heard this story before

0:30

or something similar to this story.

0:33

A group of scientists in Siberia

0:35

or Alaska have unearthed a mammoth

0:37

carcass that's been frozen in permafrost

0:39

for at least 25,000 years. It's

0:43

in such good shape that the meat looks

0:45

as fresh as a fancy restaurant steak that's

0:48

ready to go on the grill. At

0:50

the end of a long day of

0:52

using pickaxes to dig the mammoth out

0:54

of ground, frozen as solid as rock,

0:57

the scientists are so hungry that when

0:59

someone suggests they actually grill some mammoth

1:01

meat, they all think it's a good

1:03

idea. The meat turns out to

1:05

taste as good as it looks. Everyone

1:08

has a big steak dinner, even the

1:10

camp dogs. And when the expedition ends,

1:12

they not only have a mammoth to

1:14

put on display in their museum, they

1:17

have a great story to tell about

1:19

a meal no human has eaten for

1:21

thousands of years. You

1:23

may even have come across an

1:25

event that inspired this particular story.

1:28

The incredibly well-preserved 44,000-year-old Berezovsky

1:32

mammoth was discovered in Russia in

1:34

1900 and excavated

1:36

in 1901, and

1:38

it's now on display in the

1:41

Zoological Museum in St. Petersburg. Rumors

1:43

persisted for years that the expedition

1:46

members ate some of the mammoth

1:48

meat. But while we don't know

1:50

exactly what happened, definitely no one

1:52

actually sat down to have a

1:54

yummy meal of mammoth steak. It

1:57

turns out that the meat did look

1:59

appetizing. when thawed, but stank

2:01

like old roadkill. The

2:04

expedition erected a big tent over

2:06

the dig site as they excavated

2:08

the carcass, which was a slow

2:10

process in 1901, and the smell

2:12

became so bad that the expedition

2:14

members had to take frequent breaks

2:17

and leave the tent for fresh

2:19

air. Apparently, the scientists got

2:21

drunk one night and dared each other

2:23

to try a bite of the meat,

2:26

but even after they practically covered it

2:28

in pepper to disguise the taste,

2:30

no one could force any down.

2:33

One man might have managed to eat

2:35

a single bite, but reports vary. They

2:38

fed the meat to the camp dogs

2:40

instead, who were just fine. Dogs

2:42

and wolves have short, fast digestive

2:44

tracts, and can tolerate eating foods

2:46

that would make humans very sick.

2:49

But that's not the only story

2:51

of modern humans eating meat from

2:53

frozen mammoth carcasses. It supposedly

2:56

happened on January 13, 1951, at the

2:58

Roosevelt Hotel's Grand Ballroom in

3:03

New York City. A group

3:05

called the Explorers Club met for

3:07

their annual fancy dinner that evening,

3:09

and as always, the menu contained

3:12

lots of exotic foods. The

3:14

main course has gone down in history

3:16

as being slices of mammoth meat from

3:19

a 250,000-year-old carcass

3:21

found in Alaska. That's

3:24

where things get confusing, though,

3:26

because supposedly the main course

3:28

was megatherium meat found in

3:30

Alaska. Megatherium

3:32

was a giant ground sloth that

3:34

hasn't ever been found frozen in

3:36

permafrost at all, certainly not in

3:39

Alaska. It lived in South

3:41

America. However, the Christian

3:43

Science Monitor magazine thought megatherium

3:46

was another word for mammoth,

3:49

and reported that the group was served

3:51

mammoth meat. Some of

3:53

the Explorers Club members genuinely thought

3:55

they were dining on megatherium. Some

3:58

may have thought it was mammoth. The

4:00

club's press release just said

4:02

prehistoric meat, which doesn't sound

4:05

very appetizing. An

4:07

Explorer's Club member who couldn't attend

4:09

the dinner asked that his

4:11

portion be saved for him in

4:13

a bottle of formaldehyde that he

4:16

provided. This was done and

4:18

the promoter himself, Wendell Phillips Dodge,

4:20

better known as Mae West's one-time

4:23

film agent, filled out the

4:25

supplied specimen card as Megatherium Meat.

4:28

The club member put his bottled

4:30

meat on display at the Bruce

4:32

Museum in Greenwich, Connecticut, where he

4:34

worked. There, the bottle stayed

4:36

until 2001, when

4:38

it ended up at the Yale

4:40

Peabody Museum of Natural History. In

4:43

2014, a couple of Yale students

4:46

ran DNA tests on the meat.

4:48

As you may have already guessed, the

4:51

meat wasn't from a mammoth or

4:53

a giant ground sloth. It's

4:55

meat from the decidedly not extinct

4:57

Green Sea Turtle, although the Green

4:59

Sea Turtle is endangered and protected

5:01

these days, so don't eat it.

5:04

Since Green Sea Turtle soup was

5:06

also served at the meal, it's

5:08

probable that the leftover turtle meat

5:10

was called Megatherium Meat as a

5:12

sort of joke. Dodge even

5:14

published a statement after the dinner

5:17

that he'd discovered how to turn

5:19

Green Sea Turtle into giant sloth

5:21

meat. But by then, the story

5:24

of mammoth meat being served at the

5:26

dinner had already passed into history. But

5:29

while we don't know if anyone in

5:31

modern times has eaten frozen mammoth meat,

5:33

we do know for certain that a

5:35

group of scientists did eat the meat

5:37

of a mummified step bison that died

5:39

around 36,000 years ago. The bison was

5:41

discovered in 1979 in Alaska and was

5:43

nicknamed Blue Babe, both

5:50

from the folk tales of the

5:52

giant lumberjack Paul Bunyan and his

5:54

pet, Babe the Blue Ox, and

5:56

because the mummy was coated in

5:58

crystals of Vivianite, which which turns

6:00

blue when exposed to oxygen. Eventually,

6:03

Blue Babe was taxidermied and

6:05

put on display in the

6:07

University of Alaska Museum at

6:10

Fairbanks. At some point,

6:12

the team in charge of the

6:14

specimen decided to try some of

6:16

its meat in a stew, which

6:18

from all accounts turned out okay

6:20

and didn't make anyone sick. The

6:22

scientists examined the meat carefully before

6:24

deciding to cook and eat it,

6:26

and decided that it was basically

6:28

freezer burned but not actually rotten.

6:31

Dale Guthrie was part of the

6:33

Blue Babe excavation team. I'll

6:35

quote the relevant paragraph from page 29

6:38

of her booklet Blue Babe. The viewer

6:40

in Kureten mentioned in the quote is

6:43

the man who helped preserve the mummy,

6:45

and he was also the guy who

6:47

interviewed one of the Russian scientists who

6:50

tried to eat mammoth meat with pepper.

6:53

To celebrate Iric's work and the

6:55

new Blue Babe, we decided to

6:57

cook a bison stew. A

7:00

marvelous bit of luck had brought Bjorn

7:02

Kureten to Fairbanks for guest lectures, and

7:04

we invited other friends who were game

7:07

enough to try the stew. Spring

7:09

was underway. With a good

7:11

burgundy to brave the rather muddy

7:14

tone of the dish, we toasted

7:16

the past and present in the

7:18

long evening twilight, a taste of

7:20

the Pleistocene with friends who shared

7:22

and added to it with their

7:24

talents and imagination. It was

7:26

a special evening." Guthrie

7:29

reported that the meat wasn't very

7:31

good, but that anything is edible

7:33

if you use enough onions. In

7:36

March of 2023, a company

7:39

that produces lab-grown meat for

7:41

human consumption made a giant

7:43

meatball grown from mammoth DNA.

7:47

They displayed it as a way to

7:49

advertise the possibilities of lab-grown meat, but

7:51

because this particular meat hasn't been tested

7:53

to make sure it's safe for people

7:55

to eat, no one was allowed to

7:58

eat it. But maybe in the future, it's not. In

8:00

the future, you'll be able to order

8:02

a mammoth steak from your local restaurant.

8:05

Let me know what it tastes like. You

8:08

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8:37

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8:41

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