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Strange Animals Podcast.
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Welcome to Strange Animals
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Podcast. I'm your host,
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Kate Shaw. We've talked about
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mammoths and other ice age megafauna plenty
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of times before, but this week we're
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going to learn something specific and really
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weird about these animals. Although it's more
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accurate to say we're going to learn
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how weird humans are. You
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may have heard this story before
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or something similar to this story.
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A group of scientists in Siberia
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or Alaska have unearthed a mammoth
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carcass that's been frozen in permafrost
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for at least 25,000 years. It's
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in such good shape that the meat looks
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as fresh as a fancy restaurant steak that's
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ready to go on the grill. At
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the end of a long day of
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using pickaxes to dig the mammoth out
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of ground, frozen as solid as rock,
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the scientists are so hungry that when
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someone suggests they actually grill some mammoth
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meat, they all think it's a good
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idea. The meat turns out to
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taste as good as it looks. Everyone
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has a big steak dinner, even the
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camp dogs. And when the expedition ends,
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they not only have a mammoth to
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put on display in their museum, they
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have a great story to tell about
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a meal no human has eaten for
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thousands of years. You
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may even have come across an
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event that inspired this particular story.
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The incredibly well-preserved 44,000-year-old Berezovsky
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mammoth was discovered in Russia in
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1900 and excavated
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in 1901, and
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it's now on display in the
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Zoological Museum in St. Petersburg. Rumors
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persisted for years that the expedition
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members ate some of the mammoth
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meat. But while we don't know
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exactly what happened, definitely no one
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actually sat down to have a
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yummy meal of mammoth steak. It
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turns out that the meat did look
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appetizing. when thawed, but stank
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like old roadkill. The
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expedition erected a big tent over
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the dig site as they excavated
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the carcass, which was a slow
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process in 1901, and the smell
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became so bad that the expedition
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members had to take frequent breaks
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and leave the tent for fresh
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air. Apparently, the scientists got
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drunk one night and dared each other
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to try a bite of the meat,
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but even after they practically covered it
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in pepper to disguise the taste,
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no one could force any down.
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One man might have managed to eat
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a single bite, but reports vary. They
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fed the meat to the camp dogs
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instead, who were just fine. Dogs
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and wolves have short, fast digestive
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tracts, and can tolerate eating foods
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that would make humans very sick.
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But that's not the only story
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of modern humans eating meat from
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frozen mammoth carcasses. It supposedly
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happened on January 13, 1951, at the
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Roosevelt Hotel's Grand Ballroom in
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New York City. A group
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called the Explorers Club met for
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their annual fancy dinner that evening,
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and as always, the menu contained
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lots of exotic foods. The
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main course has gone down in history
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as being slices of mammoth meat from
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a 250,000-year-old carcass
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found in Alaska. That's
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where things get confusing, though,
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because supposedly the main course
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was megatherium meat found in
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Alaska. Megatherium
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was a giant ground sloth that
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hasn't ever been found frozen in
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permafrost at all, certainly not in
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Alaska. It lived in South
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America. However, the Christian
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Science Monitor magazine thought megatherium
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was another word for mammoth,
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and reported that the group was served
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mammoth meat. Some of
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the Explorers Club members genuinely thought
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they were dining on megatherium. Some
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may have thought it was mammoth. The
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club's press release just said
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prehistoric meat, which doesn't sound
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very appetizing. An
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Explorer's Club member who couldn't attend
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the dinner asked that his
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portion be saved for him in
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a bottle of formaldehyde that he
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provided. This was done and
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the promoter himself, Wendell Phillips Dodge,
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better known as Mae West's one-time
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film agent, filled out the
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supplied specimen card as Megatherium Meat.
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The club member put his bottled
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meat on display at the Bruce
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Museum in Greenwich, Connecticut, where he
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worked. There, the bottle stayed
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until 2001, when
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it ended up at the Yale
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Peabody Museum of Natural History. In
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2014, a couple of Yale students
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ran DNA tests on the meat.
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As you may have already guessed, the
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meat wasn't from a mammoth or
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a giant ground sloth. It's
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meat from the decidedly not extinct
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Green Sea Turtle, although the Green
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Sea Turtle is endangered and protected
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these days, so don't eat it.
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Since Green Sea Turtle soup was
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also served at the meal, it's
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probable that the leftover turtle meat
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was called Megatherium Meat as a
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sort of joke. Dodge even
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published a statement after the dinner
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that he'd discovered how to turn
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Green Sea Turtle into giant sloth
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meat. But by then, the story
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of mammoth meat being served at the
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dinner had already passed into history. But
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while we don't know if anyone in
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modern times has eaten frozen mammoth meat,
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we do know for certain that a
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group of scientists did eat the meat
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of a mummified step bison that died
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around 36,000 years ago. The bison was
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discovered in 1979 in Alaska and was
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nicknamed Blue Babe, both
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from the folk tales of the
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giant lumberjack Paul Bunyan and his
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pet, Babe the Blue Ox, and
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because the mummy was coated in
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crystals of Vivianite, which which turns
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blue when exposed to oxygen. Eventually,
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Blue Babe was taxidermied and
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put on display in the
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University of Alaska Museum at
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Fairbanks. At some point,
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the team in charge of the
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specimen decided to try some of
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its meat in a stew, which
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from all accounts turned out okay
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and didn't make anyone sick. The
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scientists examined the meat carefully before
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deciding to cook and eat it,
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and decided that it was basically
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freezer burned but not actually rotten.
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Dale Guthrie was part of the
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Blue Babe excavation team. I'll
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quote the relevant paragraph from page 29
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of her booklet Blue Babe. The viewer
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in Kureten mentioned in the quote is
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the man who helped preserve the mummy,
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and he was also the guy who
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interviewed one of the Russian scientists who
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tried to eat mammoth meat with pepper.
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To celebrate Iric's work and the
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new Blue Babe, we decided to
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cook a bison stew. A
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marvelous bit of luck had brought Bjorn
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Kureten to Fairbanks for guest lectures, and
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we invited other friends who were game
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enough to try the stew. Spring
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was underway. With a good
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burgundy to brave the rather muddy
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tone of the dish, we toasted
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the past and present in the
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long evening twilight, a taste of
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the Pleistocene with friends who shared
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and added to it with their
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talents and imagination. It was
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a special evening." Guthrie
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reported that the meat wasn't very
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good, but that anything is edible
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if you use enough onions. In
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March of 2023, a company
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that produces lab-grown meat for
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human consumption made a giant
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meatball grown from mammoth DNA.
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They displayed it as a way to
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advertise the possibilities of lab-grown meat, but
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because this particular meat hasn't been tested
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to make sure it's safe for people
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to eat, no one was allowed to
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eat it. But maybe in the future, it's not. In
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the future, you'll be able to order
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a mammoth steak from your local restaurant.
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Let me know what it tastes like. You
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for listening! Oh,
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I almost forgot. I'm going to
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run a promo after this for
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a new podcast called Herbarium of
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the Bizarre and it is so
8:49
good. It is short
8:52
episodes like Strange Animals Podcast, but
8:54
about interesting plants, like one plant
8:56
per episode. Very interesting,
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well-researched, a lot of fun. So
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if you like Strange Animals Podcast, you
9:04
will like the Herbarium of the Bizarre.
9:07
There's also a link in the show notes if you
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want to just click right through and find it at
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the Roosevelt Hotel's grant... Why
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can't I say that? Do
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you like pretty plants? How
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about tasty plants? Are
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good plants plants
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that can kill you? Those are
9:30
my favorites. If
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you're more of a mushroom person, we
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like fungi here too. There
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are botanical marbles all around
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us. Step
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into the Herbarium of the Bizarre and
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let me show you our collection. The
9:48
fact that it looks like eyeballs on blood-red
9:50
stalks may have been a
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warning from Mother Nature too. Botanically speaking,
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there's actually no such thing as a vegetable.
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No one knows why these mushrooms are called that. are
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bleeding. I love apple a day keeps the
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doctor away. Join
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us every Friday to encounter a
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new specimen and don't forget
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to hug a tree today.
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