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Strange News Daily. It's a production of I Heart

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Media.

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In a world full of bizarre events, unsolved

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mysteries, and a billion stories from all

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corners of the globe, some news

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gets lost in the shuffle. This

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is your gateway to the stories on the fringe

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of the mainstream map. These are

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your dispatches in the dark. I'm

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Ben Bolan and this is the Strange

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News Daily. Welcome

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to the show. Before we begin

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our first story today, we

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have an important announcement

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for you. This is

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the series finale of Strange

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News Daily, and what a

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ride it's been of For today's

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episode, we decided that

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we would do something different

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and I'm immensely fortunate to

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announce that our own super

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producer, Dylan Fagan, has

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agreed to join us on the

1:14

air for today's recording. Dylan,

1:17

thanks for coming on your

1:19

show. Thanks for having

1:21

me on your show. Ben, It's good to be here.

1:24

What a what a ride? You know. I think the

1:26

length of this pandemic really hit us when

1:29

we realize that we have done eight

1:31

plus episodes of Strange

1:33

News Daily. Yeah, and we

1:36

probably could have done eighty more episodes

1:38

of Strange News Daily. Just from Home,

1:41

Yeah, just from home. And

1:43

what we wanted to do with our time

1:45

today was the same thing we do

1:47

it every episode to give you three

1:50

weird or interesting stories. But

1:53

this is going to be something where

1:55

you and I can talk a

1:57

little more about what these stories

2:00

these are, what they mean for the

2:02

future, and then we can also

2:04

explore maybe some of our own

2:07

respective work in other

2:09

avenues. I've got a story

2:11

to pitch for you to to start

2:13

off. I hope you like it. I'm

2:16

sure I will. What's it all about, Well,

2:18

Dylan, as you know, we are moving

2:21

into the dog days

2:23

of summer here in Atlanta,

2:26

Georgia. I don't know about

2:29

your opinion, but I I think

2:31

summer is just terrible here. Yeah.

2:33

I went for a walk yesterday. My shirt was soaked

2:35

within a minute. Yes,

2:39

it's like walking. Walking outdoors

2:42

in Atlanta, Georgia during summer

2:44

is a lot like walking into soup. We've

2:46

got a lot of fans of soup in the audience.

2:49

Thank you for all the correspondence about that,

2:51

But I think we can agree. You

2:53

know, call us old fashioned, but we're the type

2:56

of guys who think soup belongs in a bowl

2:58

or a cup. Yeah, I don't want to wade

3:00

through it. And even though

3:02

summers here are notoriously

3:04

humid, very hot, we

3:07

have a little bit of strange news

3:09

that comes to us from Dr

3:12

Jimmy Lee and the British

3:15

Broadcasting Corporation. It

3:17

appears that one day soon summer

3:20

could become potentially and

3:23

literally too hot

3:26

for human beings. Yeah.

3:29

And when when we say too hot here,

3:32

we mean not just uncomfortable,

3:35

right, not just why am I showering

3:37

in my own sweat? We mean that

3:40

in many parts of the world, often

3:42

in developing countries, millions

3:44

of people could be exposed to levels of

3:47

heat so high that

3:49

their organs could physically

3:52

shut down. Like. I don't know

3:54

about you, Dylon, but I have a hard time making

3:56

it through a week without

3:58

thanking my lucky stars or air conditioning.

4:01

It's just a necessity. Yeah. Our

4:03

last house had a busted air conditioner, and

4:05

even when it was eighty two degrees in the house,

4:08

it just couldn't imagine it being any hotter. Yeah.

4:10

I've also lived in uh In

4:13

in multiple situations without air

4:15

conditioning, and sometimes I

4:18

you know, I was living in Central America there were

4:20

times where it got so hot that I

4:22

just sort of laid down on

4:24

the floor with

4:26

like in my skivvies waiting

4:28

for the sun to set. And then I

4:30

thought, I'll do everything vampire

4:33

rules until the fall or winter.

4:36

Uh, this is interesting. We have to

4:38

understand what the

4:40

experts are talking about here. They're

4:42

talking about something called heat stress.

4:45

Heat stress is something that you may have experienced.

4:48

Listeners. It's when you, uh,

4:51

your body reaches a temperature

4:53

such that you start to get faint,

4:55

you start even experienced dizziness or nausea,

4:58

and it happens because

5:00

your body is unable to

5:03

cool down, and that means your

5:05

core temperature. We're mammals,

5:07

right, so we have we have a neat little

5:10

series of mechanisms inside us

5:12

that kind of keep us in a livable

5:14

internal temperature. But if we don't get

5:16

that cool down time, our internal

5:18

temperature rises, and this

5:21

means that organs can shut down.

5:24

Our main way of combating heat physiologically

5:27

is the sweat. Sweats one of those weird

5:29

things that we've all just accepted as

5:32

normal. But it's very strange

5:34

when you think about it, you know what I mean, Other

5:36

animals rolled around in the mud

5:39

to cool down. I guess I'm glad

5:41

we don't do that. Maybe

5:43

it's better than panting too. Yeah,

5:45

you and I are both huge dog fans, so

5:49

panting I feel like dogs kind of got

5:51

the short end of the of the stick on that

5:53

one. What are your thoughts? It doesn't

5:55

look comfortable. I just feel bad. Yeah,

5:58

but they probably look at us and say listening

6:00

so much, that's

6:03

true. They're probably look at a lot

6:05

of things that we do and think they're just ridiculous.

6:08

You know, like this

6:10

has nothing to do with anything. But have you ever

6:12

thought about a dog's perspective on

6:15

taking a walk to use

6:17

the restroom? It's like, hey, you know,

6:20

a couple of times a day, this

6:22

person that I usually

6:24

trust with my life put

6:28

this thing around my neck. They

6:30

dragged me outside, they

6:33

make me poop in front of them,

6:35

and then they take the poop. I don't know where it

6:37

goes, the just they take it, and I know

6:39

that there's a room in the house that they specifically

6:42

use for this exact reason that I'm

6:44

not allowed to use. And

6:46

then they dragged me back inside. Uh.

6:49

And you know, the if

6:51

there's an Unsolved Mysteries

6:54

Netflix series just for dogs,

6:57

then one of the episodes is going to be what

6:59

happens to the poop? What happens to the poop?

7:01

And why did they put the other stuff in the trash can

7:03

when I'm obviously the receptacle for

7:05

all of those things? Right right,

7:08

Okay, look, I I say we pitched

7:10

this series. We just need to find the

7:13

canine equivalent of what's the guy's

7:15

named, Robert Stack?

7:17

Yeah, I think it would be a German shepherd.

7:19

You know, I'm really glad you said that, because I thought

7:21

I was profiling. But yeah,

7:25

and so now now when we think about

7:27

this problem of heat stress,

7:31

we have to think about how

7:34

how we measure it and how

7:36

it's affected by

7:38

the coronavirus pandemic. Because

7:41

you know, Dr Lee and a lot of other people

7:44

in the medical field, I

7:46

have to wear what's called

7:48

PPE personal protection equipment

7:52

that also will stop your

7:54

sweat from evaporating, kind

7:56

of like the reason it feels so hot

7:59

in human and ironments is

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because the humidity interferes

8:04

with that sweat cooling process

8:06

that we have. So when

8:08

we look at the impact

8:11

of climate change, we we

8:13

see some problems on the horizon

8:16

because when temperatures

8:19

rise, that's the thing we all focus on, right

8:21

the rise and just absolute temperature. We

8:23

also have to focus on the intense

8:26

rise in humidity.

8:29

It's not just gonna get hotter, it's

8:31

also going to be that uh, that

8:34

different kind of humid heat, meaning

8:37

that people who are already working

8:40

in uh, maybe factories

8:42

with high temperatures, maybe out in agricultural

8:45

industries, they're going to be at

8:47

an even higher risk of extreme

8:50

heat and high humidity.

8:52

There was a study published in twenty that

8:55

said heat stress might

8:57

affect one point to build

9:00

in people by that's

9:02

four times the amount of people

9:04

being affected now. But there's

9:07

light at the end of this

9:10

hellishly hot tunnel, right, Okay,

9:12

global solutions are tough, but

9:15

what, Dylan, what can we as individuals

9:17

due to maybe cool down a little?

9:20

Well? I think the most important thing is

9:22

to stay hydrated, drink plenty

9:24

of fluids before you work um,

9:26

and to take regular breaks. This

9:28

says that Dr. Lee's hospital

9:31

has started putting out semi

9:33

frozen drinks to help the staff cool down, but

9:35

that avoiding heat stress isn't

9:38

as easy as it sounds, you

9:40

know when you're just talking about it, because

9:43

you continually have to change out your

9:45

personal protective equipment, get a new set

9:48

of equipment. And also he says that

9:50

people don't want to drink a lot

9:52

of fluids because then they end up having to go to

9:54

the bathroom a lot. And then on

9:56

top of that, there's people's desire to keep working

9:58

through difficulties, to not let patients

10:01

down. You know, during a COVID

10:03

type crisis, during a pandemic, that you

10:06

are highly motivated to take care of

10:08

those in your care, and so that

10:10

actually puts you at a higher risk of heat injury

10:13

because you're not focusing as much on yourself.

10:15

So I think it's a it's just remembering to

10:17

take care of yourself. And the Global Heat

10:19

Health Information Network has drawn

10:21

up guidelines to actually help medics cope

10:24

with COVID nineteen. Yeah.

10:26

Yeah, And this this is important stuff because

10:29

you know, I think many of us

10:31

listening today have been in a

10:33

situation where you

10:37

maybe maybe you have a costume. Maybe you're

10:39

a person who wears what are they called I'm

10:41

not cool enough to know the rompers,

10:44

right, like you know the things

10:46

I'm saying. People who aren't doctors

10:49

also wear things that make it pretty

10:51

tough to go to the bathroom at times.

10:54

Yeah, time square, almos times square,

10:56

elmos. Yeah. A demographic that needs

10:58

more attention and support. Uh.

11:02

This is important

11:04

for medical professionals combating

11:06

COVID right now, but they're

11:08

also functioning kind of his canaries

11:11

in the mind because Dr

11:14

Lee says that the

11:16

some of the issues that the

11:19

medical professionals are facing maybe

11:21

early indicators of some

11:24

of the issues that human

11:26

beings in general will be

11:28

facing in the coming years. One

11:30

other kind of down red solution exercise

11:34

is really good for you. If you keep yourself

11:36

aerobically fit, you're increasing

11:38

your heat tolerance. I know no one wants to

11:40

hear that, but it's true. So

11:44

so what would say is a takeaway here is that

11:46

this situation is probably

11:48

going to continue if

11:51

you are fortunate enough to have a cool,

11:53

working a c system. Give

11:55

it some love, you know what I mean, Give it a

11:57

name, walked by it, give it a compliment,

12:00

and then make sure you keep an

12:02

eye on it. I think we as

12:04

a species are going to spend

12:06

the next few decades collectively trying

12:08

to beat the heat. Our

12:21

second story today,

12:24

Dylan, when's the last time you took

12:26

a trip? Oh my gosh, that wasn't

12:29

to the grocery store. Oh

12:32

wow, I went. I

12:34

went to Connecticut in January and

12:36

I kind of wished that hadn't been the last place I had

12:38

gone. But how

12:40

about you. Let's see, my last

12:42

big trip was I

12:45

got out of Chile right

12:47

before all the border closures

12:49

hit, and it was a yeah,

12:52

it was. It was weird. You know, I get

12:54

into some weird situations off air, but

12:56

I circumstances found me

12:59

in hil A and I almost

13:01

wasn't gonna go until it

13:03

was pointed out to me, Hey,

13:06

things are getting kind of hairy.

13:08

This might be your only chance. Yes,

13:11

and uh, the airport was empty

13:14

when I got in, and it was

13:17

packed when I got out, with

13:19

people trying to get out of Chile or

13:21

get to their home country.

13:24

And now you know, as as you

13:26

and I and every listener

13:28

has seen, borders are

13:31

increasingly tricky, especially here in

13:33

the US. We haven't done a great job with coronavirus.

13:37

That's that's our next story. Now, you

13:39

know, the easiest countries for you to travel to in

13:41

the US are typically going to be Canada

13:44

and Mexico, but that

13:47

is not the case right now. Non

13:49

essential border travel between

13:52

the US, Mexico and Canada. The

13:54

ban on that has been extended until

13:56

at least the end of August.

14:00

We have the official quote from a

14:02

Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau.

14:04

Yes, he says that Canada and the United States

14:07

have agreed to extend the current border measures

14:09

by one month until August, and

14:12

that we're going to keep working closely with

14:14

our American neighbors to keep people safe

14:16

on both sides of the border. So this is,

14:18

without a doubt, to say the least, a

14:20

bummer. A lot of people live in

14:23

Canada and work in the US, or they

14:25

live in the US and they work in Canada.

14:27

That travel technically has

14:30

not been banned yet. But

14:32

then there are also a ton of a ton of

14:34

people who just want

14:36

to you know, you travel to Canada or

14:38

you want to travel to the US, and now

14:41

it's much more difficult. This

14:43

rule was first issued in March

14:45

of this year, and it just keeps

14:47

getting extended one month

14:50

at a time because,

14:52

frankly, this is a little scary.

14:54

Frankly, no one knows how long

14:56

this situation will last until there's

14:59

some sort of vaccine

15:01

created. Passenger

15:03

volume along the borders has

15:06

fallen by or

15:08

more at a lot of the official crossings.

15:11

UH Canada has also issued

15:13

a rule recently where anybody

15:16

traveling to the country from

15:18

the US via an unofficial

15:21

border feel like just a state road

15:24

in the hinter lands somewhere. Uh,

15:26

they will be turned away by Canadian

15:29

authorities. We know that

15:31

similar things are happening in

15:35

Mexico. I believe that

15:37

UM traffic is falling there as

15:39

well. Right. Yeah, Santy Cedro, California,

15:42

which is on the US Mexico border,

15:45

traffic has fallen from more than

15:47

two point nine million people in

15:49

this February to one point three

15:51

million people in May. It's

15:53

it's a drop, and you

15:56

know, I have to ask, Dylan, have you been

15:58

to Mexico or Canada. I

16:00

have not, actually, but

16:02

like you were saying, especially, I

16:04

can think of, you know, people in Michigan work.

16:06

They traveled to Canada to work in factories.

16:09

Now Seattle and Vancouver are fairly close

16:11

to each other. I'm sure that there's a lot of people

16:14

who have either been used

16:16

to traveling for work across that border or

16:18

just haven't been able to, you know, leave their house

16:20

to go to work in months. Yeah, it's strange,

16:22

and the situation seems set to continue

16:25

as all our listeners in the US, No, UH,

16:29

Canada, Mexico are by no means

16:31

exceptions to the rule, multiple

16:34

countries and regions have instituted

16:37

either mandatory quarantines for

16:39

people traveling from the US or

16:42

they have completely banned all

16:44

but the most essential travel. European

16:47

countries, for instance, aren't keen

16:49

to let US citizens in for the time

16:52

being. And this is a

16:55

clearly understandable

16:57

thing. Especially No, we don't

16:59

know if people outside of the US are aware

17:01

of this, but some specific

17:04

states have started instituting

17:06

mandatory quarantines on people from

17:08

other states. Right New

17:11

York and Illinois are two of the big ones

17:13

that i've I've heard of where people

17:15

from Georgia like US would

17:18

need to quarantine for fourteen days. That's

17:22

true, that's true. And you

17:24

know, when we think about that, it's

17:26

a safety measure of course, first

17:28

and foremost, but it also functions

17:31

and will function as a barrier to

17:34

travel because imagine, if

17:36

you're like a lot of people, when you plan for a

17:38

big trip, you plan for a big

17:40

expense, and you can get pretty

17:42

close, you know, in the budget for that. So

17:45

we could enter a future where travel

17:48

is open again for Americans, but

17:51

it still comes with that two week

17:53

mandatory quarantine. So

17:56

that means that if you want one

17:58

week on let's say a romantic

18:01

getaway to Paris or something, then

18:03

that automatically becomes a three week

18:06

stay in Paris. That's a lot

18:08

more planning and a lot more money. So

18:10

feel free to send us your advice

18:13

via Twitter for how

18:15

how to how to take a romantic

18:18

getaways in the mind. I don't

18:20

know about our listeners, but I can

18:23

only imagine a lot of us have been uh trying

18:25

to hold like date nights in

18:27

the house. Hey girl, let's

18:30

get dressed up. We're gonna go to the

18:32

living room

18:35

exactly. Yeah, I've been there. You know,

18:37

maybe WA's a French film. Maybe

18:40

find a nice uh French them zoom

18:43

background, you know, really really

18:45

mix it up. So

18:48

if you have any great zoom backgrounds

18:50

of Paris, please send them our way. Yes,

18:54

yes, seriously. For

19:06

our third and final story

19:08

today, Dylan, you and I wanted

19:10

to explore something that seemed

19:13

at least a little bit humorous.

19:16

I don't know, at least it's ironic, and

19:19

I can't I can't clown these people too

19:21

hard because a vaguely similar

19:23

thing happened to me. What's

19:26

going on over in Europe? Man? It seems

19:28

that the contagious disease

19:30

exhibit that was delayed by the pandemic

19:32

is finally opening in Europe. And this is a

19:35

museum in the Dutch city of Leaden is

19:37

finally opening exhibition about

19:39

contagious diseases. They opened

19:42

yesterday and there was a long delay

19:44

actually opening this at

19:47

the Reeks Museum bor Have, Yes,

19:50

the reached museum bor

19:52

Have. I'll take credit for the mispronunciation

19:54

there because I'm

19:57

definitely not a native speaker

20:00

this, but it's it is somewhat ironic that

20:02

this, uh, this exhibition on

20:04

contagious disease that people were

20:07

very excited about visiting, was

20:10

delayed, postponed, closed

20:12

because of an infectious disease.

20:16

The name of the exhibit is in a burst of creativity

20:18

contagious. That's that's

20:21

literally with an exclamation mark, Yes,

20:23

with an exclamation mark. The Dutch King

20:26

Villa Alexander had just

20:30

returned from his scheme vacation in

20:32

Austria and he had he had

20:34

self quarantined with his family. He

20:37

opened, uh, the contagious

20:40

We have to say it the same way every time he opened

20:43

the contagious exhibition,

20:46

like as you said, Dylan on Thursday,

20:48

and the exhibition

20:51

itself you know, it talks

20:53

about everything from the bubonic plague

20:56

two smallpox to HIV or AIDS,

20:59

but it also

21:01

is clearly impacted

21:04

by the pandemic. Um.

21:07

You know, I don't know about you, but I love weird

21:10

museums. Every city i'm in, every

21:12

city I used to be in, I

21:14

would always go out of my way to visit

21:16

some museum. And it's interesting to see this one

21:19

updated in real time. Yeah.

21:21

I love weird museums, and I also love

21:24

when they kind of put things around

21:26

the exhibition, Like if you want to an exhibition

21:29

about dinosaurs and it

21:31

kind of had like caution t rex

21:33

crossing ahead kind of stickers

21:36

or something. I like that. This one, this

21:38

contagious exhibition, has

21:41

social distance stickers on the floor, which

21:43

I think, in any other time would just

21:45

be a nice addition to

21:47

put you kind of in the moment. But these

21:49

social distance stickers are actually

21:52

really good suggestions that you should follow.

21:55

Yeah, your point. You know, it reminds

21:58

me of our earlier music UM's story on

22:01

that poop museum in Japan,

22:04

where people would virtually travel

22:07

through the museum. Uh.

22:10

Yeah. The museums are a tremendously

22:12

impactful way to educate

22:15

and teach people. And while

22:18

it is a shame that this museum was

22:20

delayed and it's opening due to the pandemic,

22:24

I have to say you

22:26

couldn't have picked a better time, right,

22:29

No, I mean, I'm sure that interest is

22:31

through the roof. And I also feel like it's

22:34

uh, for some reason walking through this exhibition,

22:36

I'd feel more comfortable going there

22:38

than a lot of other places right now. I don't

22:41

know. Maybe it's just the atmosphere. Maybe it's being surrounded

22:43

by a doctor addressed in PP You're

22:46

a plague doctor replica.

22:48

This kind of puts me in the moment. Yeah,

22:52

And it really hits you with the contextualization

22:54

there because you can see photographs

22:57

from the museum's opening where

22:59

they show just as you described Dylan,

23:01

a plague doctor from the days of diseases

23:04

of your Uh. You see a model

23:06

of that uniform which is historically accurate,

23:09

and then you see another mannequin

23:12

wearing the exact kind of equipment that

23:14

medical professionals where today to combat

23:17

COVID, and uh,

23:19

they got a lot in common. I'm gonna say,

23:21

I am going to say that our mask today

23:23

seem a little less creative, not

23:26

quite as cool. But um, you know,

23:28

I'm glad that technology has come a long way.

23:31

Yeah, I am as well, agreed. One

23:33

thing that's interesting. While we're

23:35

talking about plague doctors, you probably

23:37

have the image in your head already, folks. It

23:39

looks like a very weird stylized

23:43

bird mask with goggles and a beak.

23:46

The reason that beak exists is

23:48

not because of some superstitious

23:50

belief about birds and disease. It's

23:52

because the face mask was

23:55

stuffed with spices, and

23:57

spices were thought to

24:00

combat the infection. Maybe

24:02

maybe it was kind of thing where you thought, if

24:05

I can't smell it, it's not there. Maybe

24:08

it's also vampire rules. If you put garlic

24:10

in your beak, how's a vampire gonna

24:12

get to you? Yeah? Yeah, I think we need

24:14

a mini series called Vampire Rules. I

24:16

think that's where we're trending today.

24:19

And this as our third story,

24:22

is our final story

24:25

before we hit the road. As

24:27

you said earlier, Dylan, we want

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to thank everybody for coming with

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I have to say, I am

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immensely fortunate for this

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adventure with you. I've always

24:57

we've we've known each other for years, voice

25:00

worked on different things,

25:02

sometimes in adjacent roles. Uh,

25:05

sometimes we're just I think we actually

25:07

hang out well on ballants, we actually

25:09

hang out more than we worked together. But

25:13

could you could you tell everybody in the audience

25:15

a little bit more about where to find your

25:17

work here in podcast? Yeah?

25:20

Um, so I try and stay busy. My

25:22

main show that I've been working on for four seasons,

25:25

his Family Secrets with author Dani Shapiro,

25:27

and the fourth season will come out in

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October. And um, they're

25:32

just beautiful moving stories. Also

25:34

working on a show with

25:37

the website Mental Fass. We did a season

25:40

last year about Theodore Roosevelt

25:43

and this season will be about

25:45

Arctic exploration and that will also be out

25:47

in the fall. Yes, History Versus

25:50

Now, you know I'm a big fan of

25:52

that. What I'm excited about the upcoming

25:54

season there. Uh, if you like

25:57

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25:59

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