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Get ready of

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weird. This is Strange

1:15

Things with Joshua Warren.

1:25

I am Joshua P. Warren. At

1:27

each week on this show, I'll be bringing

1:29

you brand new my blowing content, news

1:31

exercises, and weird experiments

1:34

you can do at home, and a lot

1:37

more. On this

1:39

edition of the program,

1:41

I interviewed my

1:44

dad about the paranormal

1:47

and he had a surprise for

1:50

me. Last

1:52

year, I interviewed my mother, Peggy

1:55

Warren about her experiences

1:57

with E s P. That

1:59

was episode twenty one

2:02

called Joshua's Personal

2:04

Proof of ESP. Well,

2:06

my father, Danny Warren,

2:09

recently turned seventy and

2:11

he has never been interviewed

2:13

by anyone and his entire

2:15

life, so it was

2:17

certainly time for me to bring him

2:20

on the show to ask him

2:22

about some of his paranormal experiences.

2:25

And you know what, he surprised

2:28

me. He got into

2:31

a bad car wreck a while back

2:33

and was in the hospital for weeks

2:35

having surgery. He's okay

2:38

now, but he

2:40

was driving late at night with my

2:42

mother in the mountains near

2:44

Maggie Valley, North Carolina.

2:47

At the time he told

2:49

everyone he must have hit a bear.

2:53

But now he's coming clean with

2:55

the truth about what he may have

2:57

actually hit on that

3:00

terrible night. Honestly, he had never

3:02

told me this before, so

3:05

this was a true surprise,

3:07

captured live for

3:09

this podcast. Now,

3:12

my mom and dad were both born in Asheville,

3:15

North Carolina, just like me and

3:17

my sister Jessica, and

3:19

they were high school sweethearts. They've

3:22

been together forever, living

3:24

in the mountains, and when

3:27

you hear me talk with them, you

3:29

get an idea of sort

3:32

of how they helped to inspire

3:35

my enormous interest in

3:37

the unknown. So here

3:39

we go. Here is my interview

3:43

with my father, Danny

3:45

Warren. Dad,

3:48

when I was growing up, you were always

3:50

telling me stories about history

3:52

and religion and folklore

3:55

and legends, and I was deeply

3:57

inspired by your curiosity

4:00

and enthusiasm for those things.

4:02

Did you grow up with a particular

4:05

storyteller around your family or

4:07

did you develop this interest in stories

4:10

on your own? I believe

4:13

really it probably was. I'm kind

4:15

of like you. We always have a lot

4:17

of questions but very few answers, So

4:19

I think that kind of uh

4:22

come, you know, I need

4:24

to know some answers, and you did

4:27

do too, so I think we just

4:29

uh went that route and figuring

4:31

on this stuff. So, but

4:34

was there ever anybody who would get

4:36

around the campfire and then tell you tales

4:38

like this? Uh? No, not really

4:41

that I know of. I'm sure that they were,

4:43

like can uh when I was in boy Scouts

4:45

or something like that, but I don't remember it

4:47

too much of that stuff. So, now,

4:50

when you were a kid, you know, what are

4:52

some of the most mysterious stories

4:54

that you heard growing up? Well,

4:57

I guess probably the most Cheris

5:00

was one my My dad

5:02

told me years ago he hadn't talked

5:05

too much, but when he did, you

5:07

know, I listened because he was

5:09

more open with you than he ever was me,

5:12

because you know, he had a lot of memories

5:14

of awards stuff. But one time

5:17

he I asked him, I was trying to

5:19

find out about my ancestors, and

5:21

he told me about his his dad

5:24

living out towards Pole Creek

5:27

is where he raised up. We were at that way one

5:29

time and he's saying one right up piers while I

5:31

grew up. So his

5:33

dad, I think his name

5:36

was Melvin. Now I just bindly remember him.

5:38

He had a great little big handlebar must tash

5:41

and they were he was dad

5:43

dad. He was the thirteenth kid. I

5:45

think he's the youngest and the thirteen kid.

5:48

So that's a lot of kids back then.

5:50

Anyhow, Malvin, his dad

5:54

was the only bread around. So he

5:56

where they lived on Pole Creek, he had to

5:59

walk through the dark woods old

6:01

a mountain to a tannery over

6:03

in Kenon, and uh,

6:06

you know that's how he made live. And he had to get

6:08

up like four o'clock in the morning because it probably

6:10

took him a couple of hours to get there, but seven,

6:13

and he'd had to walk home at night and he's

6:15

always dark usually, especially you

6:17

know, in the wintertime. And he

6:20

had an old cossack or people

6:22

called it burl app. I guess he'd put his

6:24

lunch in and he had a lantern he'd

6:26

had to carry when he's walking through the woods.

6:29

And I asked him one time,

6:31

I said, what did he ever come across

6:33

any barns or mountain lines or anything

6:35

like that. He said, well, my dad

6:38

told me one time that he remembered

6:41

he saw which is dancing around

6:43

on the ridge tops. And I thought, what witches

6:45

he should ask try out? Which is is what his dad

6:48

told him. So I

6:50

always thought that's pretty istant, deft,

6:53

he mysterious. And so he didn't

6:55

know anything more about who

6:57

or what these witches were. H No,

7:00

he just said he had he had were

7:02

witches. He said how he knew

7:04

that, I don't know, but he acts like hein't

7:07

had a fire, a camp fire of some

7:09

sort, and they, uh, you know, they danced

7:11

around and nobody

7:14

lived there. He was just old dark woods.

7:16

You know, you're walking through the you

7:19

know, that was dark all the time. So

7:22

that's kind of surprised me to him to say that

7:24

because he was dead, he had a he was

7:26

pretty religious, really, and

7:28

uh, that surprised me to him to talk about Abbott,

7:31

you know, that's what he told me. Well,

7:34

you know, my first memory of hearing

7:36

about the Brown Mountain lights

7:39

was you singing the

7:41

bluegrass song to the family and telling

7:43

me the folklore about the mountain. What

7:46

was it about Brown Mountain and

7:48

that whole mystery that sort of captured your

7:50

imagination. Well,

7:52

I after I heard about him, I

7:54

heard the song probably first, and I got my

7:57

curiosity got the best him, and I thought, well,

7:59

I'd like to check that out, since

8:01

it's not that far from this is at Liville.

8:04

So one day all of us, uh,

8:07

your mama and you and myself,

8:10

I think, I don't know if Jessica was born there,

8:12

we went down and see what Haoigan

8:14

see and as we looked off on

8:16

one eighty one that points towards

8:19

Brown mount So we went there

8:21

and and all of a sudden it

8:23

was dark, and it's really scary because

8:25

no other cars were around, and all of a

8:27

sudden a little old lights started coming

8:29

up off the mountain. And then there's a few

8:31

minutes another one and they kind of went

8:33

across the light, I mean across the

8:36

ridge, and they shot off up into the sky, and

8:39

I thought, man. And since then we've

8:41

been down are dozens of time, and

8:43

all but one or two times we saw those lights

8:46

and and and they were all kinds

8:48

of stories for years they said

8:51

it was train lights and this another. But there's

8:53

no train tracks are there's no cars,

8:55

there's no houses. I think the State Forest

8:57

Service owns that property, but they're

9:00

no way that lights is going to come through there

9:02

and shoot up. So do you

9:04

have a feeling about what they most

9:06

likely are? Well,

9:09

I'm not real sure that there's a lot of

9:11

a lot of controversy about that, and

9:15

it's still a mystery. I think scientists

9:17

have come here from all over the United

9:19

States and probably the world and

9:21

and trying to figure it out, but nobody's

9:24

said anything concrete about what it could be.

9:26

I've got my own theories, but I don't I

9:28

don't don't have much, you

9:31

know, you can put in the way.

9:33

Well, let's let's hear a sample of one of

9:35

your theories. Well, I'm

9:37

working on a little book right

9:39

now, and I kind of

9:41

wonder if fact couldn't be some

9:44

type of alien crafts. Yeah,

9:47

so that's a possibility. A

9:50

lot of people have said they've had encounters with

9:52

aliens up there, and you know, even

9:54

abductions have been reported out

9:56

there, and that's what that's what I've heard,

9:58

and nobody can say, nobody

10:00

can side that it's not. Yeah,

10:03

and uh, of course, uh, it seems

10:05

that many of these strange

10:08

lights out in the middle of national

10:11

forests are associated with people vanishing.

10:14

Um. You know that we've we've talked before

10:16

about like the Missing four one one books

10:19

and how that. Uh. I don't know whether people

10:21

are being abducted or carried off by bigfoot

10:23

or whatever. There are weird things

10:25

in the ranges of western North Carolina. And

10:28

you know, you you were were inspired by

10:30

a lot of the stories that you've heard to uh

10:32

write a book. Uh. You wrote this

10:34

years ago. It's called Ridge Hoppers.

10:37

Uh tell us about that book. Okay,

10:39

we're gonna take a break right there, and

10:42

when we come back, you'll hear about my dad's

10:44

book, Ridge Hoppers. Did you know that

10:46

my dad was also an

10:49

author? I

10:51

guess you can see in our family the

10:53

apple does not fall far from the

10:55

treat And then, of course you

10:58

will be hearing about the surprise

11:01

that he had for me and all of us

11:03

when he talks about what actually

11:05

happened to him and this

11:08

car accident. Um.

11:10

Okay, By the way, of

11:12

course, you probably know that years

11:14

ago I created a new field

11:16

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11:20

the most popular sigil that

11:22

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11:25

I get stories from all over the world

11:27

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11:30

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11:32

it's like a money magnet. Well guess what. Finally,

11:35

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11:38

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11:40

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11:43

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11:45

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11:47

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11:50

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11:52

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11:55

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11:57

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12:00

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and since city,

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15:17

silver. And now back to

15:19

my interview with my dad,

15:22

Daniel Warren. Everybody

15:24

calls him Danny, and I was

15:26

just asking him to tell us about the

15:29

book he wrote, which is pretty much

15:31

geared towards young adults called

15:34

Ridge Hoppers. Well,

15:37

that book actually I used.

15:41

My grandfather did as far

15:43

as crossed lower in the Pole Creek over

15:45

to the other sides of the canry, and

15:47

he him uh

15:49

and his wife, I mighteed

15:52

that he had one son, and

15:54

they didn't know where he was at, so a little

15:57

boy come to live with his own grandson.

16:01

Anyway, he was going up the mountain one day

16:03

and he encountered some little people

16:06

and they were they were They were green

16:08

and blue and red and all that, and

16:10

they would have a festivul on

16:13

top of the mountain and they were

16:15

a real mystical type people. They was magical

16:17

too. And he went up there

16:20

and they were they were which is up

16:22

there, and they were playing music and it's a it's

16:24

pretty interesting. And then he

16:27

come back because he had it had

16:29

been a flood and he couldn't cross the creek

16:31

to go to his work, so he didn't even go to work

16:33

that day. So he come back home late

16:36

that night and told his wife

16:38

and his grandson what had happened, and

16:41

they wouldn't believe him. Basically, so

16:43

he the story goes,

16:46

is he had to prove that everybody that he

16:48

was telling the truth. And they found

16:50

out in the end that he was. So

16:53

this is a work of fiction

16:55

that's based on some of the real stories

16:58

from your family's history. Yes,

17:01

yes, that's right, so And

17:03

the website is ridge hoppers dot com

17:06

if people want to learn more about that book,

17:08

Yes, yes, well and actually

17:11

on rich hoppers dot com. Um you

17:13

also feature some of your

17:16

art. You're now one of the country's

17:18

premier wood carvers. Your hand

17:20

carved walking sticks sometimes sell for

17:22

hundreds of dollars and high end shops.

17:25

You've carved thousands

17:27

of them. What attracted you to wood

17:29

carving, well would

17:31

to me is it's easy to work with

17:34

and all different woods

17:37

have all of them seem to have different characters

17:39

about them. And what I like about

17:41

wood is what

17:43

people most people were They like a walking

17:46

stick, ain't like a straight stick? Well me

17:49

at the top is pretty

17:51

straight, in the bottom, I don't care watch in

17:53

the middle. What I like about it is

17:55

is all of the noahs and

17:58

the imperfections and the gal and

18:00

all the imperfections about it, and

18:02

each of them is different and it makes you think.

18:05

You know, if you if you wheel it down to the bar,

18:07

I mean to take all of the bark off. You

18:10

can see the grain, but the bark is

18:12

what amazes me most is it's so different

18:15

and like you simmon, like on the Sasha

18:17

Fresh it's just an old brown looking tree

18:20

or walking stick water. When you shave

18:22

the bark, he gets that beautiful reddish color,

18:25

and it's just it's just amazing that

18:27

the wood. It's just to say,

18:29

everything is individualized. It's not

18:31

even though it's a specie of tree. If

18:34

you're dealing with and everything, they're

18:37

all different, just like people. Well,

18:39

you're always studying the wilderness. I mean, you've

18:41

spent a lot of time in the outdoors. Like you

18:43

said, you were a boy scout, you were in the army,

18:46

You've been a trapper and a hunter, and a

18:48

farmer and the land developers. So you've

18:51

spent lots of time outdoors,

18:53

especially in the mountains of western

18:55

North Carolina. And you think

18:57

the Bigfoot maybe real?

19:00

Is that right? Well,

19:02

I I there's a lot of things I've

19:04

seen. Uh, your Mama and I we

19:08

deliver our hiking sticks a lot of times,

19:10

two different states around

19:12

and we come home in the dark a lot of times.

19:15

And I've spent so many days,

19:18

hours out in the woods and there's a

19:20

lot of mysterious stuff at already can't be

19:22

explained. Actually, to

19:25

tell you the truth, a year

19:27

before last, we were coming through Maggie

19:29

Valley and Heywood Carny and

19:31

I ran into something with the car and it

19:34

tolled the car. It just crushed

19:36

the whole front of the car. And I didn't

19:38

see anything. I was doing about forty five

19:41

and it here, so I as

19:43

soon as it here, the our bags come open

19:45

and the lights had to come out, and the lights

19:48

went on, and I saw just

19:50

the image of something dark is

19:52

way up above the hood. So

19:55

I was hurried to get out because I had

19:57

the internal leading in all this, and I was trying to

19:59

get the mother out of car. So I walked around to the

20:01

front of the car, I said, and don't want to hit And

20:04

I looked and there's a bunch of blackish

20:08

long fur on the front

20:10

of the car. And there was a piece

20:12

of undigested fish.

20:14

And uh, I've been around bars

20:17

my whole life, and uh,

20:19

byar scat is just an old Tory

20:21

black and it's usually got seated. There

20:24

was some kind of poop or what do you call

20:26

it there, and and it was not a bar.

20:28

I don't know what it was, but whatever

20:31

it was, it run off into the woods, so

20:33

I never did see it, and the highway

20:36

patrol and he didn't want to go down into the woods

20:38

to look for it, so I think he ended up putting

20:41

putting that it was a bar that I hit. But

20:43

there's nothing there, sir. And I didn't never get

20:45

a chance to put the brakes on when I hit it, and

20:48

I thought at later our

20:50

car was towed away and

20:52

I went to the hospital and your mother did too,

20:54

and then they took me to the trauma center and

20:57

they hadn't taken a spleen out. I had

21:00

infernal bleeding. I was in the hospital two weeks,

21:02

and I thought after that, I for

21:05

I'd love to I'd take to give you a

21:07

hundred dollars so I could get a stranded out higher

21:10

and a bowl of that plue

21:12

for whatever it was, to have him a

21:15

DNA tested. That's

21:18

interesting. I mean, you know, you know bars

21:21

have short high elks have

21:23

short hir dare have short hir

21:26

horses. Everything does. But this had long, furry,

21:28

black and brown hir. Now

21:30

what could that have been? And it's running around at night.

21:34

Yeah, you'd think that there would have

21:36

been some more definitive evidence

21:38

if you'd hit a bear. I mean, it's that

21:40

is really weird. Yeah,

21:43

and it was. It was, Joshua. It was way

21:45

up above the hood. You could see the

21:47

the image up way up above

21:49

the hood. What Barro would have been, he

21:51

might have been hood level or a

21:53

little bit more. This was way up I

21:56

don't know what it was. I can't definitively say

21:58

that there was a big foot, but can't say it's not.

22:01

It's good possibility. Joe, Well,

22:03

this is certainly fired up your your

22:06

curiosity because you

22:08

have this Bigfoot

22:11

hot Spot retreat that you

22:13

and Mom and Jessica and a lot of our

22:15

friends are gonna be producing October

22:17

fifteenth and sixteen in

22:21

Madison County, North Carolina. Uh,

22:24

tell us more about what you're gonna do out

22:26

there. Well,

22:28

I looked at the map and Madison

22:31

County. I've heard my whole

22:33

life about it's a big foot hot

22:35

spot. People. Hundreds of

22:37

people's told me that Madison

22:40

County is kind of in the center of

22:42

the piscoph Forest. You go, wish

22:44

you go towards Guanty in Avery

22:47

and Mitchell and mcdale County.

22:50

A man called John Brewer has

22:52

a picture of a big foot at Late James

22:54

and Murray. And you heard John Brewer,

22:57

I probably I've heard that he has

23:00

he has a picture. Okay,

23:02

if you go west from Madison

23:04

County, you run into the rest

23:07

of the Pisga nash Forest and it runs into

23:09

the Smokies and uh

23:11

d Nanta Halen Nashville Forest and

23:14

great. A matter of fact,

23:16

right there just is in

23:18

Maggie Valley where I hit. Whatever I hit,

23:21

and that's right close to Smokey's was probably

23:23

within ten miles of the Smokies.

23:26

So Masson County is

23:28

just a hub really as far

23:30

as I'm concerned. And not only that

23:34

taken to account all the reportings.

23:36

A man after I told me he

23:39

hunts all the time, and he was in the

23:41

general area where we're gonna have the hunt,

23:44

and he said that it's eight and ten

23:46

ft high up in the are he'd

23:49

found toward pine the of been

23:51

broke off the trees and something had

23:53

made a bed on the ground with all them pine

23:55

lamps. So what

23:58

could that be? What in no Barica? And that

24:00

are they ain't No beavers are down clothes. So

24:02

I don't want to go up back to that day. Actually

24:05

they wasn't solid off. They were broke off. And

24:09

I mean, so how are you going to conduct

24:11

this hunt? What is the plan going to be? Well,

24:14

we've got a big Foot expert called Christian

24:16

mc cloud. He he he's

24:20

been in the big Foot for years and years,

24:23

and he's going to lead the searches.

24:25

We're going to have two searches

24:27

every night, to searches the fifteenth

24:30

of October and two searches the sixteenth,

24:32

and he's going to lead these and everything

24:34

will be over at midnight and

24:37

we're gonna see what's out there, if you can find

24:39

anything. And he knows how to conduct

24:41

all this stuff. So we're gonna have a base

24:44

camp where we'll

24:46

have a camp fire

24:49

if somebody wants to eat their supper, we're

24:52

gonna have bottled water, we're gonna have poort.

24:54

The parties that actually leave there, they better

24:56

take a flash out with him because they'll be

24:58

with the the guy, uh

25:00

and see what they find. Actor. Yeah,

25:04

that's gonna be uh interesting. I can't

25:06

wait to get reports after that event

25:08

from the people who go out there, and of course I'll be

25:10

talking about it on on this show. Um,

25:13

well, you know, I guess I think

25:15

you said, this is the first time that you've ever been

25:17

interviewed, and uh so, I guess

25:19

you know, finally, after all of your adventures

25:22

in life, even facing death

25:25

more than once, possibly even having

25:27

hit a sasquatch, Uh,

25:30

what have you learned? Is

25:33

the meaning of life? Okay,

25:35

time for another break. Yeah. I

25:37

had to go there with my dad. What

25:40

is the meaning of life? Perhaps

25:43

the biggest question? I guess it is

25:45

the biggest question. But hey, uh,

25:48

he helped bringing bring me into this world.

25:50

And uh, you know, my mom

25:52

and dad both say that my

25:55

sister and I were we were

25:57

planned and

26:00

so that's one of the reasons that I,

26:03

my wife and I chose not to have kids

26:05

because I thought, well,

26:08

I don't want to have a kid because someday

26:10

the kid might grow up like me and turn around

26:12

and say, Hey, explain everyone,

26:15

why did you bring me into this thing? What's the meaning

26:17

of life? And I would be like, I

26:20

got some hypotheses here,

26:23

but no

26:25

real answers. Let's see what

26:28

my dad says, shall we. I'm

26:31

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28:27

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28:37

Joshua pe Warren, and this is

28:39

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28:42

usual. Yeah.

28:45

I asked my dad, who just

28:47

turned seventy this year, what

28:51

is the meaning of life? And

28:54

here's what he said, Well,

28:58

okay, awsome think the

29:01

meaning of life is to go out here

29:03

and do the best you can do and

29:05

treat everybody right, and

29:09

you know, carry on with life and trying

29:12

to make the best of it. Because it's

29:15

just hard to say. What I mean.

29:17

Christ come into the world and he

29:19

had to come down here as a human as an

29:21

example to everybody. So I

29:23

think that that's kind of the way people

29:26

are to feel the same way like

29:28

he did. That there's something

29:30

bigger and better for us in the future. And

29:33

he taught righteousness. I hope

29:36

you know that's the best way to be. And

29:38

why the way. While I'm thinking about it, I

29:41

was doing a little research in this.

29:44

Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett both

29:46

had encounters with Bigfoot. Yeah,

29:49

they sure did. It's it's in ridden down

29:51

that word he did. I think

29:53

Teddy Roosevelt may have had an encounter

29:56

or or he talked something about Bigfoot as

29:58

well, and Uh, if anybody

30:00

would be out out there running around bigfoot, it be Cheddie

30:02

Roosevelt. Huh oh, I'd say,

30:05

But you know, they didn't come up with that. It

30:07

was some kind of like a little giraffe

30:10

for something over in Africa to like in the

30:12

twinnies or thirties they found a new

30:14

species. And so this

30:16

could very well. People talked

30:19

to big Foot for hundreds of years.

30:21

Indian legends talked about big Foot,

30:24

calling him the hiring Man and different names

30:26

like that. So why

30:28

couldn't they be a big foot out there? And they

30:30

have a way of if they even die

30:32

to get rid of you

30:34

know who, or dies or whatever. I

30:36

mean, it's always a possibility, all

30:39

right. And so lastly before we end

30:41

this interview, Look, the floor is yours.

30:44

Is there anything at all that

30:46

you want to say? I mean, if not, that's

30:48

fine, but anything else you want to stick in here? Well,

30:52

the only thing if people want to come and check

30:55

this out and see if

30:57

there's a big Foot out there. This is supposed to

30:59

be a play where they've been known to be soon

31:02

and it looks like it could be,

31:05

and uh, you know, who knows. That's

31:07

a long way to find out. Just search and look.

31:10

Uh. You know, I used to hunt years

31:13

ago and fish. I've hunted and

31:15

fished holl Over western North Carolina,

31:17

and I give out up years ago. I don't want

31:19

to harm anything anymore. And

31:22

the more you can learn about stuff,

31:25

it would be nice. If I saw a big foot. I wouldn't

31:27

tell people where they were at, because somebody would

31:29

try to harm them. But I think I'm

31:31

open to the people coming and

31:33

have the search, and who knows you might see

31:35

one. There is this debate out

31:38

there over whether or not

31:41

if a person sees bigfoot,

31:43

the person should shoot bigfoot

31:45

just to get one specimen to

31:48

prove they exist. How

31:50

do you feel about that? I

31:52

know I wouldn't. I wouldn't shoot it. You know if

31:54

you could, uh maybe uh

31:57

walk up to and gets over its hers something

31:59

like, or or see maybe some of its tire

32:02

we scrape off on a fence or a tree. You

32:04

know, big foot from what I understand,

32:08

they have rubs like deer. You

32:10

know when deer have antlers and

32:12

they take their antlers when

32:15

in the velvet and rubbed their head.

32:17

They must each Apparently big

32:19

foot scratches trees too. I guess

32:21

he It's is like other people, and

32:24

so you know, uh, there's you

32:26

see trees all time, and something's

32:29

been rubbing on them, you know, eight and

32:31

nine ten ft up an iron and I couldn't

32:33

be a deer that high. So what do what caused

32:35

that? Yeah, it's

32:38

it's it's a mystery, and uh,

32:40

you know, we may never find out what it

32:42

is, but well I'm sure we're gonna try as

32:44

long as I can. All

32:47

Right, there was my interview with my dad. As you

32:49

can see, it kind of sounds like that our

32:51

family is both tortured and

32:54

delighted and entertained by our

32:56

curiosities trying

33:00

to solve these mysteries.

33:03

Um, but I'm really glad that

33:05

even though we know we're never going to understand

33:08

everything, that at least, you know, we're

33:11

never going to get bored because there's a lot

33:13

to think about, a lot to explore. And

33:17

Dad, thank you for being on

33:19

this show. I love you

33:22

and Mom so much, and I

33:24

know my sister Jessica feels

33:26

the same. And uh,

33:28

it's just fantastic that

33:31

I've been able to have you

33:34

and Mom on this show to

33:36

share your thoughts and experiences

33:39

with the world for posterity.

33:41

I'm very fortunate, and

33:45

I guess I got to interview Jessica

33:47

next, but that might be heavily atitude.

33:50

There's no telling what my sister

33:52

Jessica is liable to say. So

33:57

got gotta come full circle here and

33:59

get Jessica on here. But now that that was

34:01

great and a very special thing

34:04

for me to be able to talk with with my

34:06

parents on this podcast. And as

34:08

you can all hear, I mean like my dad

34:11

is fired up about

34:13

the whole bigfoot mystery,

34:15

especially after having that

34:18

accident where he may have hit a bigfoot, just

34:21

like something out of Harry and the

34:23

Henderson's you know. Um.

34:26

And so look, if you want to

34:28

participate in this bigfoot

34:30

hunt in October of two

34:33

in Madison County, North Carolina, I

34:35

believe that if you go to ridge

34:37

Hoppers dot com, um,

34:40

you'll see a little information there are

34:42

I D G E H

34:44

O, P P e R S ridge hoppers dot

34:46

com. But um, the easiest

34:49

thing is just to you know, email

34:51

my mom, uh and that way,

34:53

I mean you can get details about how you

34:55

can go out there with my mom and my

34:57

dad and Christian McLeod and a

35:00

bunch of other people who are experts in

35:02

this UM email

35:04

my mom, Peggy at ridge hoppers

35:07

at gmail dot com. R I D G

35:09

E H O P P E R s at

35:11

gmail dot com. And again I

35:13

think if you just go to ridge hoppers dot com,

35:16

UM, you'll have some information there as well, because

35:19

I am going to be giving a report on this

35:21

show about what happens there in the field,

35:24

and most of

35:26

you probably know that. I think that

35:28

majority of bigfoot sidings are

35:31

the product of some kind of an interdimensional

35:34

creature, and a lot of people have trouble

35:36

believing that because that they don't

35:38

realize that an interdimensional creature is

35:41

not like a ghost that you just passed

35:43

right through when you're It's not like Casper

35:45

the friendly ghost and you try to to hug

35:47

him and you go through him. No, I mean,

35:50

uh, an, an interdimensional creature

35:53

is actually here physically here.

35:55

It's a real physical thing while it's

35:57

here, and then it just disappears

36:00

us. And so that may be why

36:02

that so many people think like bigfoot

36:04

has to be a physical thing, because

36:07

it is, but then they can't find it. And

36:10

about seven years ago, UM,

36:12

I met Dr Jeffrey Meldrum,

36:14

who's one of the most esteemed

36:18

bigfoot sasquatch

36:20

researchers in the world. And and by the

36:22

way, I mean, I've been looking into

36:24

sasquatching bigfoot my whole life.

36:27

Um, even before I got in the Ghost,

36:30

I was reading books as a kid. And

36:32

then you know, I know Lauren Coleman very

36:34

well. I have hired him to

36:36

speak at events for me. We have spoken

36:39

together at events, and um,

36:41

I mean I I I really have always

36:44

been very open minded about this whole thing.

36:46

So anyway, I was looking back at some of

36:48

my notes about meeting uh Dr

36:50

Jeffrey Meldrum back in two

36:52

thousand fifteen, and I asked

36:54

him, uh face to face if he

36:56

thinks the Bigfoot has to be

36:59

just an ordinary biological

37:01

organism, and he said that he thinks

37:03

Bigfoot is absolutely an

37:06

ordinary ape like creature. And

37:08

when I asked him why we don't have more hair,

37:11

scat, etcetera, he said

37:14

that it's simply an extremely small population

37:17

and that we are not used to dealing

37:20

with extremely small populations

37:22

of extremely large, intelligent animals.

37:27

So you know, it's like, one

37:30

of the things that makes me think that

37:32

that may be true, but it's also interdimensional

37:35

is because we have reports from all fifty States

37:37

every year. We've gotten

37:40

very good at documenting normal physical

37:42

animals, but we can barely

37:44

grasp the idea of interdimensional

37:48

life forms. And it makes sense

37:51

to me that we can only explain all these

37:53

sightings, if they're true, by applying

37:55

the concept of a creature that is

37:58

not the ordinary by logical

38:00

type. That's just what I

38:02

think, Okay, But

38:04

I do believe that people have these

38:07

encounters with Bigfoot, and hopefully you

38:09

can see how I bring those two together. And

38:11

it's actually quite interesting,

38:15

uh,

38:17

to show you just the extent to

38:19

which I am intrigued with Bigfoot.

38:22

Um. You may or may not know that

38:24

I have released a new brand

38:27

of paranormal coffee. This

38:30

is something I've been working on for years, and

38:33

one of my coffees is called Bigfoot

38:36

or Brew. And just to give

38:38

you an idea of how this came to be,

38:40

I have, for about twenty years had

38:42

a good friend who is an expert

38:45

in the gourmet coffee business. She lives

38:47

in North Carolina and I

38:49

I love coffee, but I'm not a big

38:51

coffee drinker. And so she

38:54

started sending me samples of different

38:57

like five star coffees and saying,

38:59

like, try I this blend and try this blend.

39:02

And I started really enjoying

39:04

these blends, and it became

39:07

kind of a fun thing at my house. Like I

39:09

would. I started taking notes on these

39:11

different blends, and I thought, well, you know what, if I love

39:14

this coffee, maybe my audience will. So

39:16

I picked these three coffees because

39:19

they tasted wonderful to me.

39:22

And because that, I

39:24

thought to myself, if I were going to go

39:26

on a ghost hut, I think

39:28

I would bring this coffee with

39:30

me to keep me alert and all that, you

39:33

know. Or if I was going to go out for

39:35

a night searching for UFOs, I would

39:37

want this coffee. It has a little bit of a cerebral

39:39

effect opens the mind. Or if I was gonna

39:42

sit around that campfire looking for Bigfoot

39:44

like some old cowboy, I would use this guy.

39:47

And I picked these coffees. And

39:50

when we come back from the break, I want to tell you about

39:53

these coffees and my new coffee

39:56

brand, which is available

39:58

right now. And then I want to read to you an

40:00

email, actually a couple of interesting

40:03

emails I've gotten. One of them is about

40:05

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40:08

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41:59

I'm your whole is Joshua pe Warren And

42:02

yeah, I

42:03

uh, I

42:05

have my own brand of coffee

42:08

now. And here's the thing. This

42:10

is not just a gimmick. This

42:13

is good stuff. Okay. These are artisan

42:15

blimbs, roasted and small

42:18

batches and shipped fresh.

42:21

Uh. The bad news is, currently we can only

42:24

ship to addresses in the United

42:26

States. Uh. So I've called

42:28

this Close Encounter coffees,

42:31

and so I have this flagship Close

42:34

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42:36

then I've got the Banshee

42:38

Brew. So like you know, close Encounter Coffee.

42:40

That's that's what you want if you're gonna go on a UFO

42:43

hunt, or the bandshe Brew if you're gonna

42:45

go on a ghost hunt, and then the big Footer

42:47

Brew. Duh, you know you're gonna go.

42:50

And uh, Sam Shearon, who

42:52

I believe is the best artist in the world, produced

42:54

these beautiful labels for these bags,

42:58

and so uh look,

43:00

if you if you want to

43:02

just try it out, Um, you can. You can

43:04

buy one of them and try it, or

43:07

you can buy us all of them

43:10

and tryumph. But if you actually subscribe

43:12

to one of them or all of them,

43:15

well you'll you'll save money because

43:18

you get free shipping. And then every month,

43:20

what is what a nice surprise it will be to have

43:22

a nice fresh bag of this artist

43:24

and coffee that appears in

43:27

your mailbox right when you need it. So

43:29

look, just don't take my word for it. UM,

43:32

read all about it. Go to the website.

43:34

You'll see a video there. You can click a link

43:36

where I'm talking more about this and

43:39

and why that this is something that I've never

43:41

done before, but I'm doing it now and

43:44

I guarantee it. Okay, I guarantee that

43:46

you will love this and you'll get hooked on it.

43:49

You'll pick your favorite one just like I have, and

43:51

you know you'll use it probably every day.

43:53

You know, this will be your like regular coffee. Uh,

43:56

go to close and Counter Coffees

43:58

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44:05

you will see very soon.

44:08

I'm sure why that I have fallen in love

44:10

with these coffees

44:12

and why that I put my name on them? You know,

44:14

I could have taken some old cheap coffee

44:16

coffee and like slap my name. I Now, I'm

44:19

not just trying to make a buck here. You'll

44:21

see um again artisan

44:24

gourmet blends. Okay,

44:27

So let's get to the emails, shall

44:29

we. You know I did a show not

44:32

too long ago about dreams and

44:34

dreaming, and I got this email from

44:36

Robert in Pennsylvania and he said I

44:40

was breeding mice and

44:42

rats to feed my growing reptile

44:45

pet collection. At one time,

44:47

I had nine snakes and several

44:49

lizards that ate live rodents in different

44:51

shapes and sizes, everything

44:54

from pinky, which is just day

44:56

old mice to full grown

44:59

rats. At this time,

45:01

I was also camping a lot, and I

45:03

would often be gone an entire weekend,

45:05

sometimes a three day weekend, and

45:07

on one of my three day trips, I told

45:10

my dad to check my rodents and make

45:12

sure they had enough water. Well.

45:14

He did not have to worry about feeding them,

45:16

as they had plenty of food to survive

45:18

until I got home. In other

45:20

words, Dad did not have to open

45:23

any of the cages. Our

45:25

old house was weird in the sense

45:27

that there was only one light switch

45:29

to the basement, and the switch was

45:31

at the top of the stairs. You had

45:34

to walk through the entire carpeted

45:36

house, living room, dining room

45:38

to get the cellar door, which was in the kitchen.

45:41

So whenever I would come home from camping

45:43

or we just got out of the creek

45:45

from inner tubing, I would

45:48

use the outside basement door so as

45:50

not to track dirt all over the main house

45:52

to get to the basement, But

45:55

unless the sun was shining, we'd have to use

45:57

a flashlight or feel our way

46:00

with a dark basement until we found the stairs

46:02

and then climbed them to the top to flip

46:04

on the basement lights.

46:06

Well, while I

46:08

was camping, I dreamt

46:11

that I was going down the stairs

46:13

into the basement, and I saw some of

46:15

my mice running around

46:17

loose out of their cages. And

46:21

when I got home three days later and

46:24

opened the outside basement door, I

46:27

saw mice running

46:29

around. After getting the lights

46:31

turned on, I found that one of the cages

46:34

my dad had opened. Uh,

46:38

one of the cages my dad had opened and forgot

46:40

to put the lid back on. So

46:44

did I dream of a future event

46:48

or did I dream about it as it was

46:50

happening miles away from my campsite.

46:52

Okay, let me pause for a second. Look,

46:56

it could be either of those, Robert, because

46:58

look, I have had dreams myself,

47:02

uh that come true in

47:05

the future. Okay, I'll give you a couple of examples.

47:07

When I was a kid, I've talked about this before.

47:09

I was like in middle school, and I had a dream about

47:12

my science teacher going up

47:14

in front of the class wearing a certain outfit,

47:16

sitting on a stool and telling us that she was

47:18

taking a new job and she was never going

47:20

to be our teacher. Well, she wasn't gonna

47:22

be our teacher, you know. And uh. And

47:25

so the next day, um,

47:28

that happened. So I dreamed

47:30

that in the future. Now, two

47:33

days ago, I was sleeping

47:36

late because I was up working all night,

47:38

and I had this dream about

47:42

being here in my house with

47:45

my wife Lauren and our dogs, and

47:47

I looked over and there was this lizard,

47:50

like some kind of geck or something like

47:52

that, you know, uh, sitting

47:55

there, and the dogs started to go after it,

47:57

but it didn't move, and it turns out it was

48:00

it. And then, like I

48:02

don't know, maybe a minute after

48:04

that, I got woken up because my

48:06

phone I turned, I kept

48:08

it turned up, and I got a text

48:11

from Lauren. She had gone out to our

48:13

swimming pool and she had found

48:15

a dead lizard that had drowned

48:17

in the pool that looked almost

48:19

exactly like what I had dreamed. So I

48:21

have no doubt I was dreaming about

48:24

that incident as it was happening.

48:28

So it can go either way. When you're out of your body,

48:30

you you can travel to other

48:32

places, or you can travel to other times

48:35

spacetime. It's the same thing. It's

48:37

flexible. And then he goes on to

48:40

say, I have heard this story about

48:42

how if you dream and you

48:44

are falling and you hit the ground

48:46

before waking up, you will die

48:48

in your sleep. Have

48:51

you ever heard this story? I

48:53

do remember at least one time I

48:56

dreamt I was falling off a bridge and fell

48:59

into the creek spend, and

49:01

I remember I bounced awake in my

49:03

bed. It was like I

49:05

was really falling and landed in my

49:07

bed. The balance landing woke

49:09

me up, and I'm thinking my astral

49:12

spirit snapped back into my body.

49:14

And since you mentioned that you dream

49:17

you are flying, how

49:20

do you land? How have you ever

49:22

crashed? Well, Robert,

49:25

these are great stories and questions,

49:27

and okay, so thank

49:29

you for those. Yes. Usually

49:32

when I land, it's kind of soft,

49:35

you know. It's it's almost like I'm standing

49:37

at the bottom of a swimming pool and

49:39

I propel myself up and then

49:41

I sink back down. But

49:44

I have had uh dreams

49:47

and which I have fallen straight

49:49

down and I'm waving my arms and nothing

49:51

happens, and I hit and

49:53

I die. Uh

49:57

that has happened to me. And I'm I'm actually lying

49:59

there face down and

50:01

I know I'm dead, and

50:06

then I wake up after a while.

50:08

So I don't believe that if you fall

50:11

and you die in your dream,

50:13

that that means you have to die uh

50:16

in your physical body. But

50:19

see, isn't it's cool to get, you

50:21

know, feedback like that from listeners.

50:23

After I talked about this stuff, let me

50:26

squeeze in one more email. This

50:28

comes to me from

50:31

man named Charles. I'm not sure where

50:33

he lives, and he says, I want

50:35

to tell you about some success I have had with

50:37

a good fortune tone and

50:40

the sigils. I want to write

50:42

and tell you my quick success story of

50:44

using your good fortune tone and

50:47

sigil. I was going

50:49

to Bingo on

50:51

September one and decided to take

50:53

a copy of the money sigil with

50:55

me. I put it on the table

50:57

in front of me so I could see it,

51:00

and I also remembered that you sent

51:02

me the free links that included a long

51:04

version of the good Fortune Tongue. I

51:07

put in my earbuds and listened to

51:09

it on a thirty minute loop, and I

51:11

kept thinking, I'm a winner and I will win.

51:14

Will guess what I won? Twice

51:18

and he told me how much he won. I don't

51:20

think i'll repeat that, but let me tell you, he

51:22

says, not a bad night at all. I

51:24

plan to try the Casino next.

51:27

Thanks well,

51:30

congratulations Charlie. That's

51:32

wonderful. Please keep me updated. And

51:35

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51:37

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51:54

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51:56

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51:59

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52:01

eyes. If not, uh, you know that's

52:03

okay, but at least take some deep breaths,

52:06

try to relax a second. This is

52:08

only twenty seconds long, and

52:10

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52:13

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