0:17

taking a big drink, hey, it's me,

0:19

it's Brian, welcome to street fight.

0:22

I am here sitting in my office,

0:25

which is just another of my house. Coming

0:29

out. Gotta

0:31

go to behind me, but I got

0:33

frustrated and started over. So

0:37

No Yoda until later, but

0:39

it will be in this office someday. You will see

0:41

a LEGO Yoda in here. I

0:45

hope everybody's doing okay. I

0:49

am here for the I'm

0:51

here for the night or about a

0:53

time that, you know, I'm

0:56

here for decent amount of time,

0:59

I guess. Maybe like an hour, two

1:01

hours. There's gonna sit

1:03

and chat with everybody. Maybe you have

1:05

a little bit of fun. I'm looking at the

1:08

I'm looking at the app and stuff like that.

1:11

I see A1CACAB

1:14

I'm just gonna call you ACAB

1:17

God damn it. because it's

1:20

hard to say. I see hoodie owl

1:22

in here. I'm

1:24

looking to see if I can read the

1:26

chat but I'm in I can

1:29

read the Oh, there you

1:31

are. I see you. Hi, Huttigal, I

1:33

wibbity, Wabbity, high A1C3A

1:36

on BEE2 Pyongyang,

1:39

Jim, ACAM. Yeah.

1:42

We're we're gonna start calling you ACAM

1:44

from now on, which doesn't help you at

1:46

all. Pyongyang, Jim, is Dracula,

1:49

rampage. Good evening. How's everybody

1:51

doing this weekend? You guys haven't

1:53

well, Fortunately for

1:56

some of you, you don't live

1:58

in

1:58

the Midwest or

1:59

the Northeast

2:01

and or the entire

2:03

country except for, like, the bottom part

2:05

and the west part, freezing

2:08

cold. didn't take a walk today. I got

2:10

pissed off. You ever wake up

2:14

like, just pissed, like, you're pissed

2:16

off at at the fucking weather and you're like,

2:18

I don't have to fucking deal with this shit.

2:20

You

2:20

know, I'm not gonna fuck. So I went to

2:23

a Christmas fair today with the

2:25

old with with the wife and

2:27

Erica. We we went we looked

2:29

at a Christmas fair,

2:31

saw a few things, there was a guy that was selling

2:34

knives,

2:35

the

2:36

motherfucker was selling Boker knives

2:38

that are, like, a hundred dollars.

2:41

He glued rocks to them and

2:43

was charging three hundred and twenty five

2:45

dollars for him.

2:46

bunkers prices at

2:48

this place. But I I was there

2:50

because

2:52

my wife did not think

2:54

that I was going to want

2:56

to do this. Right? So here here's

2:59

what happened. She goes, hey, you see this

3:01

this Christmas fair? And then,

3:04

know, Now,

3:05

I don't wanna go to that. It's fucking

3:07

crazy. What kind

3:08

of person would ask me that crazy question?

3:11

And but they asked me,

3:13

and

3:13

I did it And

3:14

I went and I actually had

3:16

a good time.

3:18

We There

3:20

weren't a lot of There wasn't nothing

3:22

I wanted to buy. at

3:24

the Christmas fair. I don't

3:27

I don't like What's the

3:29

word, man?

3:30

I don't like

3:32

I don't like

3:34

ornaments. I don't ever wanna

3:36

buy another ornament. It's the same thing I

3:38

had with the

3:41

situation over the eight

3:43

Fern Cliff says it's sixty eight in southern

3:45

Sunny Southern California. I think I

3:47

think me and the family are gonna come to California.

3:49

warring very soon. You know,

3:51

spent some time in LA, some time

3:53

out in the desert, Georgia wagering, and

3:56

just hang around. I think we're gonna be there soon.

3:59

gonna be beautiful.

4:00

the

4:02

Because it sucks here. It's twenty eight degrees

4:04

right now. So don't like it.

4:07

the But

4:08

yeah. So yesterday, I'm like,

4:10

we're wrestling's on. I

4:12

bought the pay per view. And

4:14

we're watching the wrestling and my wife's like, yeah.

4:16

Yeah. Yeah. You won't go this Christmas fair. And at first,

4:18

I was like, no. But then I'm like, she's gonna hang around

4:20

this house while I was wrestling on a Saturday

4:23

night. So

4:23

though

4:24

Okay. Yeah. Gluing rocks to knives.

4:27

What garbage Safari's asking, and

4:29

people don't understand. This guy had

4:31

knives that were pretty good not. you

4:34

know, a bokeh, which isn't

4:36

like the

4:39

most expensive knife. But I had

4:41

a bokeh crash in the cop that was thirty

4:44

five dollars and

4:46

it was a Switchblade and was really

4:48

sick. This guy had what appeared

4:50

to be one of those fucking rock tumblers.

4:54

If people remember like a rock tumbler,

4:56

which I honestly have no idea,

4:59

the

5:00

what the I fur clip,

5:03

I will not be in California before

5:05

anytime before Christmas. This

5:07

this will be a early January situation.

5:10

But

5:12

what I'm saying is they they the

5:14

guy had some pretty good knives, probably forty

5:16

five hundred dollar knives, but he

5:18

He used one of them rock tumbler gimmicks.

5:21

We can't even know what the fuck they are, guys.

5:23

I don't I don't know what the magic is with

5:25

it, but then he glued it.

5:28

to the

5:30

knife and

5:32

then

5:34

charged another two hundred and twenty five

5:36

dollars for it. And which I'm

5:38

like? I don't know, man. I

5:40

I like the the original model.

5:43

Night. because

5:44

that's just the kind of dude I am.

5:46

You know? I like I do

5:49

want I would like something

5:51

special something that looks

5:53

cool. But I also like,

5:55

why the fuck would I want a knight? Like,

5:58

why would I want you to glue a rock to

5:59

a nice knight? also had the

6:02

Zippo

6:04

these,

6:04

like, they

6:05

weren't Zippo lighters, which I have thought

6:07

about buying hundred times when I quit smoking.

6:10

So what would I ever

6:12

need a Zippo for? You can't like candles

6:15

with a Zippo. No.

6:17

I fucking have to stand outside in

6:19

the break area at some fucking

6:21

warehouse. Like, you need to light, you need

6:24

to lighten people's cigarettes. But

6:26

I but I always wanted one. I always wanted

6:28

a Zippo, learn the Zippo tricks.

6:31

You know?

6:32

But

6:35

okay. Scarrubs fee said

6:37

lighting dynamite on a windy day.

6:41

Winners and losers says to toss onto

6:43

the trail of a gas leading to the barn

6:45

you're torching. And and yeah.

6:48

And that's the other name. Pyongyang, Jim says, get

6:50

a ham made night from street fighter. I have

6:52

knives that people have sent me that are

6:54

handmade, that are very cool and I like them.

6:57

the

6:58

I don't

6:59

exactly know. So, Zippo

7:01

made money clips. And this guy

7:03

seemed to like glue two

7:05

knives and

7:08

to a money clip and then also and

7:11

they're sticking out. They don't close

7:13

and

7:13

fold in. There's

7:14

two knives

7:17

It's a bunny clip and it's got a knife coming

7:19

this way and knife coming this way and then

7:21

there's a rock glued to it. Right?

7:24

And and so it's like,

7:26

what the fuck?

7:28

I can't even put that in my pocket. It'll

7:31

stab me. walking

7:32

rings, like Zippo made these, and it's

7:34

like, the quick glue and

7:36

rocks to shit. Man, nobody

7:39

wants a rock knife. And

7:41

nobody listen. That thing

7:43

that polishes up the rocks, that

7:45

fucking thing? That's just a toy.

7:48

I don't

7:48

even know how it works. or

7:50

why the rocks look so cool.

7:52

But

7:52

ah

7:55

yeah. Yeah. I don't

7:57

know. I might buy a Zippo still because y'all know

7:59

I like the waste money.

7:59

I'm like a big time

8:03

money waste or

8:05

that it's like I'll put a zipper in

8:07

I'll put a Zippo in my pocket. And then,

8:10

you know, maybe during the summer, somebody

8:12

would be doing a fire, and they don't

8:14

have one of them long fucking lighters,

8:17

so I'll just take a zip code and pew

8:19

would light it.

8:20

That

8:21

would be nice. So yeah, I'm not getting into

8:24

turquoise jewelry hank. I see you in

8:26

there. Also, goblin lurker

8:28

says orc weapons. I don't need that.

8:31

the Yeah.

8:33

I think I do. I think I want

8:35

I'm

8:35

gonna get a Zippo and see if there's

8:38

a Zippo that has a knife.

8:40

Like

8:41

as part of it, because

8:42

if if I can justify

8:45

as many knives.

8:49

You know what I'm saying? Like, I can justify buying

8:51

as many knives. It's like Legos.

8:54

It's

8:54

like, well, I like them. So

8:55

I'll buy them. I just get justified buying

8:58

fancy lighters. That's goofy. You

9:00

know, you don't wanna buy a fancy lighter. So

9:03

the Oh

9:04

my god. Garbage Safari says, I'll send you

9:06

a Zippo. I went through a phase and bought

9:09

like a dozen But

9:11

it's crazy. I saw a zipper

9:13

one time recently that had a naked lady

9:15

on it and I came real

9:17

close to buying it because How goofy is

9:19

that? But it's like those pins, the

9:22

the riding pins that you would hit the button. That's

9:24

the other thing I saw, by the way. That's

9:26

the other thing I saw. guy

9:29

was selling fountain pens, and he was really

9:31

putting a hard hard sell

9:33

on me. Right?

9:34

Like,

9:35

these are nice. This is a nice fountain

9:37

pen, handmade. You

9:41

go out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

9:43

it's got pointy boy?

9:45

You know

9:46

what? Y'all know what I'm talking about? Like,

9:48

it it

9:49

it is like a pen and then

9:51

it has a metal

9:53

like, kinda triangular situation

9:57

and it's

9:59

a fountain

9:59

pen. I

10:00

don't know if you fill it up or if you dip

10:02

it in Penn.

10:04

Guys, giving me the full court press.

10:06

And I'm like, dude, I'm tell you

10:08

something.

10:09

I

10:11

Even when I wrote

10:13

stand up. Right?

10:15

Or

10:16

when I wrote for

10:17

the zen,

10:18

I never used a

10:20

pen. I hate pens, and

10:22

I hate pencils, and

10:24

I hate paper. And

10:26

I'm a fucking type guy. I just

10:28

type. I

10:29

have like a old fucking moleskin.

10:32

Then was like, oh, carry this moleskin around.

10:35

and write down my jokes

10:38

in it. Write down jokes.

10:39

You know what

10:41

I'm saying? Like, I'm writing down my jokes when I'm doing

10:43

stand up, oh, here's an idea. I'll write that down. And

10:46

I just stopped using

10:48

it. I was like, I'll just you know what I got a smartphone?

10:50

I'll just type it in Google Docs. That'll

10:52

work too. You

10:54

know, I'm just not a pen guy. I don't wanna

10:56

play with pens. I don't wanna use

10:58

pens. I just don't have

11:01

I I don't have that thing. I

11:04

grew up when you had to use pens

11:05

in the past.

11:06

So yeah, not

11:08

a pen guy, not gonna use fountain pen. They want

11:10

to answer the phone now.

11:11

There is room for more collars

11:14

on the queue. So if you ever wanted to

11:16

call in, you know, there's

11:18

a couple of spots here that

11:20

you can You

11:22

know?

11:22

Oh, there's only one spot now.

11:25

ah

11:27

Oh, well, hello. You're talking to Brian on

11:29

street fight. Who am I talking to? Hey,

11:33

Brian. This is Alex from Irvine, California.

11:36

Alex from Irvine, California. I

11:39

wish I was there. You're on a picket line? Are you

11:41

the guy in the chat that has a picket line?

11:44

Yeah. I am. What'd you

11:46

do? What'd you got what'd you got strike it up there?

11:50

So I'm a part of the university

11:53

of California's student worker strike right

11:55

now, where we just finished

11:57

up so yeah.

11:59

Why

11:59

didn't you call why didn't You're

12:02

say are you the person that was supposed

12:04

to get a hold of me and say you were calling, so you

12:06

didn't have to wait for me to talk about fountain pens

12:08

and zip. Oh, I see.

12:10

Oh, you did? I know. I looked the three

12:12

parts.

12:12

So mean, I looked in the

12:14

three parts, so I know what's up. Yeah.

12:18

I was like, I I saw the

12:20

I didn't check my d m's. My d m's

12:22

been outrageous lately.

12:24

And so sometimes just don't even look

12:26

at them, but now I'm looking at it. And

12:28

it's like, let me look here.

12:31

I'm gonna I'm gonna go in there. Oh, yeah.

12:33

You're right there. Okay. Well, I

12:35

appreciate you waiting forming. And

12:37

I did pick you up first. You called

12:39

first. So

12:40

you're at the US See, and

12:43

I didn't think you'd still be on strike

12:45

right now. So

12:47

it's in phoneme on

12:49

the pro.

12:51

Yeah. What are you

12:54

guys striking pro?

12:55

So

12:57

basically, what's going on here is

13:00

so everyone's aware of how expensive it is to

13:02

live in Southern California. Right? I mean,

13:04

It's

13:04

like one of most expensive places that live

13:06

in the country. But

13:09

basically,

13:09

student workers here

13:11

get paid or, like, academic workers to people

13:13

who already have, like, degrees and are teaching

13:16

classes, like, t a's or, like, people

13:18

doing research gets grants for the university's

13:20

funding, you know.

13:23

The, like, average pay for a teaching

13:25

assistant here is that people who teach multiple

13:27

classes a week, teach under grads, and have

13:29

more instructional plan than, like, professors

13:31

do. Make around, like, twenty three thousand

13:33

dollars a year.

13:35

like, living in LA. It's always shocking,

13:37

which is not because it's always shocking every

13:39

time, Alec. It's like, we

13:41

hear we hear

13:43

that shit. Like, we hear every time,

13:46

like, people that work as as like,

13:49

know, at a college.

13:51

You're you're always like they're they're like, yeah, we

13:54

make about and then in your mind,

13:56

you're like fifty grand a year. Look,

13:58

not a ton of money. but it's an amount

14:00

of money you can live with. Right? That's what I would

14:02

think. I was like, yeah, it's not gonna pay your student

14:05

loans or anything like that, but it's fifty grand.

14:07

And

14:07

then

14:08

every time the person's like, yeah, we make four

14:10

dollars an hour. It's like, how the fuck do they get

14:12

away with that?

14:13

Yeah.

14:15

It's crazy. I mean, I don't know. So,

14:18

like, I rent from my university, like,

14:20

they have housing for a graduate students.

14:22

And I I pay,

14:25

like, fifty five percent of my income a month

14:27

to back to the school. So, like,

14:29

they pay me and then I pay them back in rent.

14:32

it's, like, really aiming because they know how much

14:34

I pay them. You know?

14:37

They know. Yeah. And I'm paying them for, like,

14:39

a time by time in Rome in a shared apartment.

14:41

a thousand dollars a month when they pay

14:43

-- Oh, twenty 3KA year. --

14:46

it's

14:46

a shared apartment, and they're just like,

14:48

yeah, you pay fifth what

14:51

fifty five percent of your income is

14:53

what you pay to move in.

14:55

There used to be these apartments. I had a Literally,

14:58

friend who lived in in section eight

15:00

apartments. And, like, guys that

15:02

I went to school with would get so fired

15:04

up about it because they'd be like, she only pays eight

15:06

dollars a month rent. And I'm like, She lives

15:08

in such an apartment and

15:10

she's seventeen with

15:12

a kid. So let's not let's

15:14

cool out a little bit here.

15:16

Yeah.

15:18

I have a friend who just had a kid and,

15:20

like, he's living here. He's working towards

15:23

his PhD. You know? He's teaching, like, several

15:25

classes. He has, like, a five job. if,

15:27

like, wife works, like, doing,

15:29

like, overtime every week to make ends meet.

15:32

because and, like, they're renting from the university. It's

15:34

crazy. like, what people are going

15:36

through. because people I mean, I don't know. People have, like, an idea

15:38

about grad students. I feel that, like, you

15:40

know, we're losers, which we are, you know.

15:43

obviously, like, I'm studying, like, the bullshit that I wanna

15:45

do. But, like, at the same time, we're, like,

15:47

basically, teaching all these undergrad, like,

15:49

more than professors are, like, hours was.

15:52

and, like, grading everything or repairing classes

15:54

and stuff. And, like, we get paid

15:56

significantly less than them, and it's just it's

15:58

labor, you know. It's, like, intensive labor

16:00

because the state like like,

16:03

feel like it says on chatbot, you know, like, the state sort

16:05

of abdicates, like, all of

16:07

it's, like, social work onto

16:09

teachers and professors and stuff

16:12

except at, like, giant school

16:14

systems like California. that,

16:16

like, work fault to TAs, not

16:19

professors. Right.

16:21

work with the therapists for them to to

16:23

come.

16:25

Right. Yeah. because I think most of the teachers

16:27

I had in college were

16:30

were not tenured or anything

16:32

like that because they don't offer that anymore.

16:34

they can they can

16:36

definitely do the thing where it's

16:39

like, they they can do

16:41

the thing where they're like, well, you know,

16:44

you're not quite ready yet and you'll get

16:46

tenure, but all these jobs are taken

16:48

up by people that are making twenty six thousand

16:50

dollars a fucking year You

16:52

know, like, why would they

16:54

give anybody tenure? Why would they

16:56

make anybody an

16:59

employee or whatever it is when you're a professor.

17:01

Like, there's no fucking there's no

17:04

incentive for them to do that. So

17:06

it's like, here's here is I

17:09

want you to you you're supposed to go

17:11

and study this thing. It's a noble

17:13

thing to learn, but everybody

17:15

hates people so much. Everybody

17:19

hates college students so much

17:21

that they're just like fuck them. You know?

17:23

They don't deserve anything.

17:25

Yeah. So --

17:27

Yeah. -- it's wild. I mean but,

17:30

I mean, I think I don't know. III really

17:32

hope that, like, people pay more attention because,

17:34

like, this tech strike is huge, you know.

17:36

It's like forty eight thousand people across the

17:38

state. And, like, it's

17:41

it's it's the result of, like, over

17:43

a year bargaining across

17:45

three different unions all under the UAW.

17:49

And, like, we've been bargaining

17:52

for over a year to try and get, you know,

17:54

a fair wage to be able to,

17:56

like, lift people out of rent burden. So,

17:58

like, and, like, a

18:00

really huge percentage people pay, like,

18:02

over fifty percent of their rent, sit back,

18:04

like, every month out of their paychecks here.

18:06

And, you know, like, add back

18:08

end of my work, because I'm just, like, isn't like, it's

18:10

not tenable. You know? Like, we're struggling.

18:13

Like, I go to the food pantry every week to get food

18:15

and stuff.

18:16

I think it's, like, totally opposite,

18:18

but people think. Think

18:21

we live well. Yeah. They think they're, like, they think

18:23

you guys are, like, pampered and

18:25

that you're just throwing a fit. And

18:27

and and it it is mostly people

18:29

who didn't go to college that that

18:32

don't understand how

18:34

college works. You know what I mean? Like,

18:36

they don't understand. because it's the same

18:38

people who are like, oh, yeah.

18:40

Yeah. These liberal and

18:43

and, like, communist college professors.

18:45

And it's, like, I was in a sociology

18:48

program. and my teachers

18:50

were pretty much, like, a lot more

18:52

conservative than me. You know?

18:55

Like, I was -- Yeah. -- like, our our

18:57

stuff. Pretty rare. Okay.

19:00

I was pretty far to the left compared to,

19:03

like, teachers that were teaching

19:05

classes about like, social stratification

19:08

and shit like that. Like, I took a class

19:10

called social stratification

19:12

the

19:13

race class and gender. And

19:16

it's just it's the type of class

19:18

that conservatives are losing their

19:20

shit about, you know. And this teacher

19:23

was so much so conservative,

19:26

not like a Republican. IIII

19:28

would assume she still votes for Democrats.

19:31

but I would guess that she was not a

19:33

Bernie Sanders supporter.

19:34

She and and and and I

19:36

talked about the labor

19:38

the the labor theory course I took

19:40

when I was in college with the with

19:43

the fucking libertarian

19:45

the

19:46

Fedora guy, vapes, you know,

19:48

all that stuff. Like, I took that course.

19:50

And she's like, I'm a sociology major.

19:52

All of my teachers are supposed to be

19:54

fucking raging communist. And

19:57

I I didn't find any

19:59

to be

19:59

that way. I had one teacher

20:02

who really liked me who would sort

20:04

of sit and talk to me about.

20:06

Well, I mean, her son mostly her

20:08

son went to rehab and

20:10

she she wanted to talk to

20:12

me about her son going to rehab, so I had

20:14

to go sit in her office during office

20:16

hours and be like, well, you know, people

20:21

handle rehab differently. You just gotta

20:23

be open. It was very weird. Very weird

20:25

situation. But I like the lady, so I didn't mind

20:28

helping her deal with her

20:30

the heroine

20:31

using sun. But

20:35

yeah.

20:35

I just I

20:38

felt like

20:39

I felt like really shocked at

20:42

the amount of, like,

20:44

teachers who were It's one of the reasons

20:46

I quit doing political science I started

20:48

school, I went to political science, took two

20:50

classes. I was like, this is all conservative shit,

20:53

man. This is not

20:55

this is not what I wanted to

20:57

do. You

20:57

know? Poly

20:59

I pull a thick of I I did

21:01

a polyethylene underground, and it was just

21:03

it was horrifying for the most

21:05

part. I don't know. I like people sitting in front

21:08

of me in class, like,

21:09

a

21:11

Dude,

21:11

you're not doing what you think you're gonna

21:14

be doing when you take it? You know

21:16

what I mean? Like, you take political

21:18

science and you're like, we're gonna talk about political

21:20

systems and and we're gonna try

21:22

to, you know, develop our own political

21:25

system and and and all this stuff

21:27

or our own opinions. But it's like, doesn't

21:29

not what it is.

21:31

It's like you go in there and

21:35

you're you're just talking about the same shit

21:37

that we have going on now and how

21:40

they do stuff. And I I found

21:42

that so fucking frustrating. But

21:44

ah so

21:46

you guys also I I saw

21:48

the news stories earlier in the week

21:50

about

21:51

UPS is

21:53

not delivering there or

21:55

being asked not to deliver

21:57

there?

22:00

Yeah.

22:00

UPS is a solid area strike

22:02

with well, the team starts

22:04

on the solid area strike going on with, like,

22:06

the UAW worker that's represented here.

22:08

And, yeah, we've actually been picking

22:11

drivers that cross the picket line. So,

22:13

like, preventing them from doing deliveries at the behest

22:15

of, like, that local Teamsters stored

22:18

here in Irvine, which has been super cool.

22:20

They've been so supportive. We've also had, like, a

22:22

lot of solidarity from, like, other

22:24

local unions. We have some, like, food work routine

22:26

and drop off food several days. It's been awesome.

22:28

I mean, it's just it's such like a showing

22:30

of, like, how? Like, together

22:32

as if we stand together as workers, we can all,

22:34

like, make it through and make it better life for everybody.

22:37

I don't know. That's what it's all about. Like, we did,

22:39

like, a big, like, video

22:41

the other day for the lecture

22:44

or think it's, like, adjuncts or whatever and,

22:46

like, at the new school. in

22:49

New York who are on strike as well. They just started

22:51

striking this week. But

22:53

it's it's cool that there's, like, deep there's, like, this labor

22:55

movement, which is happening across the country right

22:57

now. So

22:59

yeah. I don't know. It's just been very heartwarming to see

23:01

the solidarity from other other unions in

23:04

the area and across the California. and

23:06

then, like, give them that back. It

23:09

also has to feel pretty sick to, like,

23:11

like, III just

23:14

as you were talking about it and as I had seen the

23:16

Teamsters and and some of the stuff, it's

23:18

it's gotta be pretty sick if you if you spend

23:20

your time on so social media lot and you

23:23

you hear how

23:25

people characterize, like,

23:27

what's a worker and what isn't a worker

23:30

and and shit like that to

23:32

just have, like, auto workers coming

23:35

and standing side by side

23:37

with you because, like, you

23:38

know,

23:39

everybody wants to get

23:42

paid fair. And I always find that.

23:44

So I

23:46

one of the most frustrating things is, like,

23:48

when I was climbing poles and shit like

23:50

that and roofing, I didn't

23:53

think that college professors were

23:55

human garbage or pieces of shit.

23:57

I I admired them because

23:59

I thought they were smart, you know. It was

24:02

the same thing with, like, you

24:04

know, Harvard. Right? Like,

24:06

the the grungiest most, like

24:09

like, white trash guy still respects

24:11

Harvard. They don't find out that it's

24:13

awful.

24:15

most of the time. Like, my father-in-law is

24:17

like, hey, you went to Harvard. I went down and give a fuck.

24:19

Harvard's bunch of fucking idiots. And

24:21

then, you know, they're like, you're not following

24:23

their rules of engagement at that point.

24:26

Like

24:27

everybody at Harvard's a fucking idiot. You're like,

24:29

wait. No. You're not supposed to be allowed to say that.

24:34

Yeah.

24:34

And I don't know. I I hope that, like,

24:36

more I

24:37

hope that this union drive, but, like, hopefully,

24:39

like, a push of unionism across,

24:42

like, like colleges

24:44

and universities will hopefully, like,

24:46

help shape the future of discourse

24:48

around, like, leftism

24:51

and unionism in this country because I feel

24:53

like there was, like, a real reactionary conservative

24:55

moment in academia not too

24:57

long ago, but I hope

24:59

that people who are not, like, invested

25:01

in the movement or work before the strike or

25:03

their, like, whatever strike they have going on in their

25:05

college campuses. I hope that they, like,

25:08

feel the solidarity from like other workers

25:10

and, like, put that towards, like,

25:12

advocating for unions and, like,

25:15

labor in their work in the future

25:17

because, you know, people always talk about how,

25:19

like, academia or whatever is

25:21

a lead and, like, it sets the conversation

25:24

or shit. But, like, if

25:26

that is true, I hope that we can repay that

25:28

solidarity by, like, you

25:29

know,

25:30

doing positive work for

25:33

for unions that are, you know, of

25:36

other other other workers and other, you

25:38

know, move in. Yeah. because

25:40

I totally change the tide of how you look.

25:42

You're

25:44

looking at like Starbucks. It's like

25:46

that almost feels like Domino's just

25:49

falling.

25:50

the I

25:51

mean, I think it's sort of slowed down now,

25:54

but

25:54

there was a period there where it just

25:56

felt like a bunch like, everything felt

25:58

possible. And I don't think

26:00

we're past that moment yet either.

26:03

I'm not saying that I don't think this

26:05

stuff is possible. But I do

26:07

think, like, it

26:09

needs to be juiced every once in a while.

26:11

And it it does to me

26:14

seem like this this

26:16

the the USC thing

26:18

is, like, something that's being picked

26:21

up in the news because, like

26:23

I mean, you told me about it obviously in

26:25

DMs when we talked,

26:27

but, like, I have seen independently

26:30

of you. I've seen stories

26:32

showing up

26:33

online and stuff like that.

26:35

So it seems

26:38

like, a pretty positive

26:41

situation out there. Is there

26:43

a strike fund?

26:45

There

26:46

is a strike fund. So

26:49

basically, we were a niche.

26:51

I don't know. I I don't know. We weren't

26:54

initially, like, I don't think planning for it to go

26:56

as long as we think it will now. But

26:58

I don't know. I don't I don't blend.

27:01

And I think people are pretty stuck.

27:04

You know, we're, like, we're out here until we get

27:06

what we need because the university and,

27:09

like, their bargaining team hasn't moved on any

27:11

of the major economic issues yet.

27:14

Like, they they they're offering us a seven

27:16

percent raise. which is

27:18

nothing. Yeah. So It's

27:20

a big thing that we're out here. Dude,

27:24

they love doing

27:26

that shit. Business for some reason, business

27:28

and college is business.

27:30

They love to do a percent. They

27:32

just love to throw a percent at you. And that

27:34

percent always under ten percent. Always.

27:37

And

27:38

you're supposed to be like, well, seven percent

27:41

of twenty six thousand dollars is

27:43

I don't know. I don't know. But

27:46

it's it's fucking five

27:48

hundred dollars who wouldn't

27:50

do better with five hundred more dollars? It's

27:52

like, eat shit mother sucker.

27:58

me the lowest rate from that

27:59

with, I think,

28:00

a hundred and twenty bucks a month more

28:03

for some people. Yeah. It's like it's just it's

28:05

lapped. It's like insulting, you know. Yeah.

28:08

My wife gets raised every

28:10

year. And my wife will get her raised

28:12

every year. And it'll it'll be ten, maybe twelve

28:14

percent, and then she does the math, and it's like,

28:16

a

28:17

fucking two hundred and fifty dollars.

28:19

Who cares? It's more than that.

28:21

But you know what I mean? It might be two

28:23

thousand dollars a year more. And it's

28:25

like, that's not fucking

28:27

real money, man. And then you're you're

28:29

supposed you're a dick if you say

28:32

that. You

28:32

know what I mean? Like, you're a fucking

28:35

asshole you say, well, two thousand dollars

28:37

isn't money. And it's like, no, it's not

28:39

it's not real money. It's not gonna change my life

28:41

even a little bit.

28:44

Yeah.

28:44

I mean, like, III totally agree.

28:46

I think we gotta change that because the people

28:49

like, it's not anymore. Like, maybe

28:51

twenty years ago, two thousand dollars, real money, but

28:53

it's not any more inflation what

28:55

it is and shit. But there

28:57

is a strike that people would have done.

29:00

I'll I'll I'll I'll get it out

29:02

there. I'll let you get it out there. But there's

29:04

there's

29:05

definitely two

29:08

two things where it's like there is

29:10

the the the here's seven

29:12

percent, here's eight percent, and and

29:14

that's all of that's all the money

29:17

that they're willing to part ways with.

29:19

And the other thing is if they're accepting seven

29:22

percent, they

29:23

can give you more because they're happy

29:25

with seven percent. they're happy. They're

29:27

gonna walk out on the other end of this with

29:29

seven percent. And they're gonna be super

29:31

fucking happy with that. And it's like, no, we want

29:33

you to not be happy. have you guys

29:35

tried saying that and the bargaining thing saying,

29:38

like, we want you to not be happy with the amount

29:40

of money you give us, actually.

29:42

So that let's start there.

29:44

first.

29:47

Yeah. I mean, I think that come pretty

29:49

come through pretty clear. So actually, like, the

29:51

university's been committing

29:53

a ton of, like, a legal practices, which

29:56

is why we're on strike. We're, like, able to strike

29:58

legally because it's since it's, like, technically,

30:01

really, like, government workers

30:03

in some way. Like, we're employed by the state,

30:05

because it's a public school. Like,

30:07

we don't with not an l r NLRB strike,

30:10

it's it's done something with, like, the California

30:13

board of labor or whatever. So

30:15

since the university and the state

30:17

are breaking the law in the way

30:19

they bargain committing unfair labor practices,

30:21

we're, like, legally allowed to be out here for as long

30:24

as we want.

30:26

like,

30:26

with holding their neighbor and paying So, like, they've

30:28

been Christmas is coming up.

30:30

Well,

30:32

Yeah. Well,

30:33

yeah. Not as as if anybody has

30:35

money to buy business presents, you know. But

30:37

Yeah. what

30:40

Yeah. essentially,

30:42

though, like, like, they've been trying,

30:44

like, offer raises to different departments saying,

30:46

hey, like, we'll give you ten thousand more dollars

30:48

a year if you don't, like, stand with your fellow

30:50

workers, you know? Like, don't worry about them.

30:52

We've got you covered, which is, like,

30:55

super legal. because

30:57

it's under like, going behind the unions back

30:59

and up. Shit.

31:02

It's so gross.

31:05

It's fucking awful. But there's

31:07

a strike. Well, how much are you asking for money

31:09

wise? Like, what what kind of raise are you guys

31:11

asking

31:12

for?

31:14

So we're asking for a fifty

31:16

four thousand dollar year minimum salary

31:18

Uh-huh. -- which is the lowest

31:21

amount to

31:23

Yeah. So it's but it's also the lowest

31:25

amount necessary

31:28

to bring everybody out

31:30

of Redburn. So it's, like,

31:32

not out of nowhere fifty four k. It's,

31:34

like, specifically, like, to lift

31:36

all workers for the UC

31:38

out of out of the federal

31:41

rent burden standard, which is over thirty percent

31:43

of their rent goes to or

31:45

thirty percent of their income goes to rent every month.

31:48

And it's also, like, University

31:50

of California, like LA and

31:52

Berkeley are, like, the top public schools in the

31:54

country. You know, they if they wanna, like,

31:56

claim to be the best, they need

31:58

to, like, pay people accordingly. You

32:00

know? And we're gonna be providing a

32:02

world class education or whatever to their

32:04

undergrad they need to be paying us so

32:07

that we're doing so. So, like, it's

32:09

not even a it's not it's not crazy.

32:11

But fifty four is still less.

32:13

than most people with bachelor's degrees make in California.

32:15

You know? Then they're making a ton of

32:18

fucking money. These

32:19

colleges are making a ton

32:21

of fucking money. You know?

32:24

they're basically hedge funds at this point, you

32:26

know. It's all investment and none

32:28

of it goes back to making everything better. Like,

32:30

they raise tuition every year. We don't

32:32

see any we don't see any of that. We don't

32:34

see any of that all. So Like, you

32:37

see what tuition is you see a motherfucker

32:39

is paying you know, eighty, ninety thousand

32:41

dollars to do four years of college. And then

32:43

you find out that a lot of other people

32:45

teaching them are making twenty five thousand

32:48

dollars a year and you're like, well, where the fuck is this

32:50

money going? I don't fucking

32:51

you at Ohio State,

32:54

I I want I, you know, I walk by Ohio

32:56

State a lot I went to Ohio State.

32:59

And and they're just constantly building

33:01

new shit on campus. And it's

33:03

like,

33:04

guys,

33:05

Take a fucking year off or

33:07

something, and maybe throw some money to the

33:09

employees that are here.

33:11

Yep.

33:13

Based on people, please. Yeah,

33:15

please. But what's the stress fun? Where

33:17

can people donate?

33:18

So

33:20

if people wanna donate, they can do

33:22

so at fair use now

33:25

dot forward forward slash support. that's

33:27

also, like, our main website with which has,

33:29

like, all of the information about what's

33:31

going on here, how Dutch people are paid, what

33:33

we're asking for, parking the updates,

33:36

Also,

33:37

if people wanna reach out and, like,

33:39

talk to people striking, they totally

33:41

should, you know, it's easy to find on Twitter.

33:43

Everyone's happy to talk about it.

33:46

Yeah. I don't know. It's it's

33:49

super awesome to all the positive

33:51

presence part of gotten but we're

33:53

gonna need to keep going until they

33:56

pay us because I hope that, like, this strike

33:58

will, like, lift other people,

34:01

you know, let other people know that they

34:03

can do the same thing in their workplaces because

34:05

it's it's big. It's a big deal.

34:07

And Yeah. I don't

34:09

know. Acadine is a fucked up industry, and

34:12

we gotta fix it as best we can. It

34:15

absolutely is. It Absolutely is.

34:17

But I appreciate you calling.

34:19

And please keep us up keep

34:21

me updated. Call me again.

34:23

I'm curious. I'll be here

34:25

for the next

34:27

let me look. I'll be here

34:29

on Sunday nights.

34:32

Well, maybe not next Sunday night. I don't know. haven't

34:34

decided yet, probably, though.

34:36

Until the eighteenth

34:38

will be the last show. I do.

34:41

this year on a on a college show. So

34:43

give me a a -- Yeah. -- you know,

34:45

keep

34:45

me posted, please.

34:47

Yeah.

34:48

And also to your Columbus listeners,

34:51

I've also played music in a metal band,

34:53

and we're gonna be in Columbus on the ninth

34:55

of December if anyone wants to come through with ace of

34:57

cups. infant island or plane with

34:59

energy. It'll be cool. Come see your bell

35:02

shit. December ninth.

35:04

I'll try to get out there. It's

35:05

a Friday. I don't work Friday. Yeah.

35:07

Maybe me and the only one can show up. Yeah.

35:10

Alright. Alright.

35:11

I I thank you for calling. Well, thanks.

35:14

You too. You

35:17

too. You too.

35:19

Oh, I'm gonna answer the

35:22

phone next. Yeah.

35:24

they're striking down there in Cali. You

35:26

know? Hopefully,

35:27

I'll get

35:29

as I say, hopefully, they're still striking when

35:31

I get down there. you know, if we decide

35:33

to take a trip out there.

35:36

But actually, I don't hope they're

35:38

still striking. That would be fucked

35:40

up. I want them to still

35:42

be striking.

35:43

And thank

35:46

you for calling. Who am I talking to?

35:51

Hello?

35:53

Hello?

35:56

How

35:56

did I get bumped to the front of the

35:58

line?

35:59

I guess people hung up or something. I'm

36:01

not really sure, but you're here. What

36:04

who am I talking to?

36:07

This

36:07

is Tracy from Texas,

36:09

aka Dracula.

36:12

Oh, I know who you are. Hey. What's up,

36:14

man? How are you?

36:17

I am chicken in.

36:19

I am not coming to Texas anytime

36:22

soon. But if

36:23

I do what, you'll be the first to know, Trey.

36:27

Hey. Please do.

36:31

Lots of things have

36:32

changed in the last four or five years.

36:35

We all know that, but you're

36:37

welcome anytime, and I'll I'll I'll

36:39

show you around.

36:41

Yeah. I mean, I think, you know,

36:45

Next year, there's

36:46

gonna come a time,

36:49

I think, where I decide to go out on the road

36:51

again.

36:52

But

36:54

I I you know, and I'm I still don't

36:56

know what I would do.

36:58

Now,

36:59

if I if I did it. So I'm

37:01

I'm just I sit around and I think

37:03

about it, and one of these days, I'll figure it

37:05

out. So what what's

37:07

going on, Dracula? You

37:09

he goes by Dracula, everybody. I'm not

37:11

gonna make him fun of him.

37:14

Dude, the the the Dracula

37:16

thing is really funny because

37:19

it was I don't know.

37:21

Maybe, like, a year ago, and I called in.

37:23

It's when y'all kinda

37:24

scream I don't know. It was, like, a

37:26

different screaming system. and I

37:28

said this was dracula calling.

37:31

And so

37:32

I guess it just shows up that who's calling

37:35

every time now. Yes.

37:37

So, anyway

37:40

yeah.

37:40

I don't know why we got we have the screening

37:43

on. I'm I'm looking III

37:45

don't want it on. although

37:47

I mean, because it didn't never

37:50

work. I don't think, like,

37:52

if somebody wants

37:54

to get through, wanna

37:56

just lie and

37:58

get through. I don't

37:59

I I I'm not really sure that the screening

38:02

of this thing where you just

38:05

sort of leave a message, and

38:07

then the computer

38:09

types it out. It's like, I I don't know.

38:11

I just don't think it ever worked. So I'm

38:13

just, like, fuck it. And you know what? Bubba's love

38:16

sponge. Bubba's love sponge doesn't

38:18

do it. No. I'm not doing it either.

38:21

Right. Like, you know, I I can call

38:23

in and say, you know, this is fucking Obama

38:26

or Joe Brandon or whatever. So

38:29

and then end up being Hitler.

38:32

And

38:32

that would be a huge fucking problem that

38:34

we called the show.

38:36

Totally. Totally.

38:39

No. I would hang up to the tell

38:41

you the truth. To

38:42

tell you the truth, Tracy, I would

38:44

a hundred percent if Hitler called into

38:46

this show, I'd fucking hang up on him.

38:48

And

38:48

I wouldn't I wouldn't even think twice

38:51

about hanging up on Hitler.

38:52

It

38:54

it's the new, like, If

38:56

you invented a time machine,

38:58

would you go back and kill baby Hitler? Like,

39:01

if you had a podcast, would you hang

39:03

up? If Hitler called, that's like the new

39:05

paradigm. Yeah.

39:06

And I would. I mean, I guess,

39:09

like, I would have to find out.

39:11

What I don't know. because like,

39:14

if you did have Hitler call into your

39:16

show and

39:17

you're like, hey, how's

39:19

it go like, you know, How's it going?

39:21

He's like, oh, hey. I'm hitler. I'd be like,

39:23

why did you why did you do that? It stopped. Has

39:26

has anybody ever called Accident?

39:29

you

39:30

can pretty you're out. pretty much cut them off. Pretty

39:32

sweet. Austrian accent. So

39:35

Yeah.

39:35

I have a clip that Bubba

39:37

loves sponge said. where he's

39:39

like, I have it on my phone. It's

39:41

one of my favorite clips of

39:43

of any of the shock jocks, and he goes like

39:45

this. And I don't

39:47

like Hitler. I think he's actually one of the

39:49

biggest dicks that ever lived.

39:51

Like, thanks, bubba.

39:54

It was a big deal.

39:57

He waved important

39:58

topic there.

39:59

Yeah. He's being controversial. So

40:02

how's it going down there in text? Hey.

40:06

No. Big up to my man

40:08

my my people out there striking in

40:10

California, the University of California

40:13

system. I'm a former TA

40:15

myself. Went to graduate school here in

40:17

Texas.

40:20

That shit don't pay. I

40:23

think we made a a

40:25

little over a thousand dollars a month.

40:28

It's not even like It

40:31

was just that.

40:34

Like, it was just enough

40:36

to just, like, afford

40:39

very, very basic.

40:41

If I didn't live at home still,

40:43

like, I moved back down to Central Texas,

40:46

and I moved in back

40:48

to my mom's house to go to grad school.

40:50

Like, if I didn't live there, I

40:52

don't know how would do it otherwise. Back

40:55

and this is, like, What year

40:57

is this? Twenty twenty two? This is over

40:59

a decade ago at this point. And

41:01

it's even worse now. I don't know. I mean,

41:05

these these guys, these ladies,

41:07

these non binary folks

41:10

at all universities across the

41:12

country should be doing the same because they

41:14

ain't getting paid shit for the amount of work to

41:16

do. I had professors like, we

41:20

it would be test day, exam day, and

41:23

they had not literally prepared the

41:25

exam, and we would have to, like, go into

41:27

their office the last,

41:30

like, thirty minutes before class time

41:32

and, like, help them create answer

41:34

or questions and answers for the test and

41:37

stuff and, you know, proctor

41:39

the exam and Of course, we're all

41:41

grading the exams and stuff. You know,

41:43

I I was a history grad student.

41:46

And it's just like, especially

41:49

at places like California, you know, I was

41:51

at Louisville, Texas State University, and

41:54

these guys that, like, in

41:59

then Marcus,

41:59

Texas just south of Ohio. It sounds

42:02

like

42:02

Well, I'm

42:04

curious to this. What do you mind? Can

42:06

I ask you this? I don't know if you'd know the answer

42:08

to this. Is there a justification for

42:11

paying them?

42:12

paying them that little amount of

42:14

money. Is that do is is

42:17

there, like

42:18

no. I've I've always talked about the

42:21

the lady that at the cable company

42:23

who justified

42:25

turning people's cable off because

42:27

they they made a they

42:30

made a promise and they didn't

42:32

follow through with their promise.

42:34

the

42:35

Is there like a

42:38

reason to pay people like poverty

42:40

wages? because twenty five thousand dollars a year is

42:42

poverty wages. That's that's You

42:44

can't live on that. That's impossible. Are

42:46

you supposed to have what you read it?

42:49

I

42:50

mean, the reason that's capitalism, dude,

42:52

I mean, I don't know how many times

42:54

I've used you and Brett's little gift,

42:57

the mean TV promotion about

42:59

that, the capitalism. I mean,

43:02

these systems as they exist

43:06

would not I mean, they're

43:09

all about exploitation. I

43:11

mean, that's the reason why

43:13

most people I mean, when I

43:15

first started going when I graduated

43:18

high school and first went to college, between

43:20

now, the people that graduate high school and go

43:22

to college is a totally different thing.

43:25

To get any kind of non

43:27

menial job

43:30

or or or career, you're

43:33

expected to go to college. And

43:35

-- Yeah. -- it's all about

43:37

exploitation. Yeah.

43:39

I I wonder if

43:42

yeah. It it's something that always

43:45

it's interest thing to me because, generally, they

43:47

will have a justification for almost

43:50

every job. Right? Like, they have the justification

43:53

where, like, working at McDonald's sucks and

43:55

it's fucking grueling,

43:56

but it's supposed to be for teenagers, so

43:59

too fucking

43:59

bad. Hey,

44:01

you know what I mean? And and

44:03

or both ends. It's a really hard

44:06

yeah.

44:07

Go to McDonald at eleven

44:09

forty five in the morning, like,

44:11

on your if pay you get off early

44:14

little bit early for lunch hour, go

44:16

to McDonald's and order a fucking

44:19

microwave or whatever right now. See,

44:22

who's serving you at McDonald's? It's not

44:24

teenagers. In my area,

44:27

it's Hispanic lady. It's

44:29

working I mean, it's people that

44:32

never went to college, and

44:35

those people deserve I

44:38

don't even know what they're getting paid right now,

44:40

but, you know, they deserve what

44:43

we call a living wage is probably not even

44:46

a living wage. Any more. They deserve

44:48

at least that. So I I don't

44:50

think we even know what a living wage is at

44:52

this point. It it it

44:54

really feels like there isn't

44:56

It it I

44:58

I've talked about this in the past

45:01

when

45:02

I was, you

45:03

know,

45:04

Probably about a year ago,

45:06

I think. Maybe a year and a half ago

45:09

where I started

45:10

you know, I make pretty good money,

45:13

not bad. You know,

45:15

I I guess, you would

45:16

say I make them about a middle class wage

45:19

and my wife makes about middle class wage.

45:21

So so we're okay.

45:23

And

45:23

there was this period of time -- Right. --

45:26

like six like like a

45:28

year ago, year and half ago where

45:30

it was like, wow.

45:31

It looks like I dug my way

45:33

out. You know what I mean? And it looks

45:35

like

45:36

I'm able to live comfortably.

45:38

And then boom, whatever

45:40

happened, fucking happened, and now

45:43

Inflation, I just went to the grocery

45:45

store today, and I gotta tell you, I

45:47

have got to tell you.

45:50

As I was scanning stuff, all

45:52

I heard was

45:54

six dollars, six dollars.

45:56

I was like, everything's fucking six why is everything

45:58

six dollars? was

45:59

screaming. Well, because

46:03

everything's dead and wet. double.

46:07

We are involved every day

46:09

in class warfare.

46:11

People do not realize that.

46:15

by the process that

46:17

corporations fit, by monetary

46:19

policy, by banking

46:22

policy,

46:23

the

46:25

The working people, the working

46:27

class people, the poor people,

46:30

the people that make

46:33

this country run that make the world run

46:35

that produces everything, that grows

46:37

everything, that teaches our

46:39

students

46:40

they're

46:41

the ones responsible and they get

46:43

the shaft. Ultimately,

46:46

that's what we're all here

46:49

about. I mean, we're all left as per

46:51

apparently.

46:52

And Well, I'll say I'll

46:54

say this. When you look at

46:56

something like

46:59

when

46:59

you when you hear about,

47:02

you

47:02

know, Jeff Bezos, Elon well,

47:04

Elon Musk Not as rich as he once

47:06

was,

47:07

but He may

47:09

have won a really bad investment. He'll

47:12

just pay those.

47:14

But I wanna say this, like,

47:17

like, these guys are making more than ever,

47:19

and then we're paying more than ever.

47:22

So that

47:22

fucking money is just going right into

47:24

these fucking

47:25

guy's pockets. That's

47:26

what's happening to the money. Right. Everything's

47:29

fucking six dollars now. because

47:31

everybody all these guys

47:33

are making more money.

47:35

Yeah.

47:38

And it's not even the Jeff Bezos's

47:40

or the Elon Musk or the Koch

47:42

brothers or the whoever.

47:45

It's the other hundred people

47:48

that make up the so called one percent that

47:51

are unseen and unknown. that

47:55

basically rely on

47:58

all of us making

48:01

money for them

48:03

Somebody like

48:05

the sacklers who have so much

48:07

money that they will never need

48:09

money. No sackler will

48:11

ever be born. has

48:14

wreaked on countless

48:17

amounts of of

48:19

havoc on this world and

48:22

-- Yep. -- they will they're

48:24

gonna be generationally wealthy for

48:26

for there isn't anything we can do

48:28

Oh, I mean, there's a few things we can fucking

48:30

do. I know they're, like, gonna say them.

48:33

Yeah. But there isn't anything we can do.

48:38

And that and that's really

48:40

the point is there are

48:42

things we can do. As

48:45

Americans, we have a century

48:48

of

48:50

conditioning as and

48:55

a a completely evolved police

48:57

state that prevents us from doing so,

48:59

basically acting out in any

49:01

way against it will mean at

49:03

least jail time, possibly

49:06

dead. I don't have

49:08

I don't want to sound so severe,

49:11

but that's really what

49:13

boils down to. And

49:15

once it's not yeah.

49:18

I don't know. I ain't gonna talk too much about it

49:20

right here, but on on the podcast or

49:22

just Colin Show. But Yeah.

49:24

I think I think the thing

49:26

with me is, like,

49:28

again, the sacklers

49:30

are like my

49:32

my really big

49:34

example because it's like I

49:37

think if you asked

49:39

a

49:39

hundred people,

49:41

eighty of them would say the sacklers

49:45

shouldn't have money.

49:47

They

49:47

shouldn't have, like, generational wealth

49:50

for

49:50

what they've done. Yeah. You know?

49:52

And and eight you know, like, ninety

49:55

ten percent of people might say, well,

49:57

they worked hard and they figured out

49:59

how to sell

49:59

heroin legally, and they deserve to

50:02

have But it's like,

50:03

I don't III think,

50:06

you

50:06

know, back in the day, back when I was

50:08

in school, they

50:09

what you're kinda saying is

50:12

something that they said. And it's

50:14

just like,

50:15

listen. you

50:17

can get

50:18

fired up about about Bezos

50:21

or or or Musk. And they're

50:23

some of the richest people in the world, and they started

50:26

out on third face or whatever. IIIII

50:29

think -- Yeah. -- I don't know. Fuckin' who knows.

50:31

I don't know what the case is.

50:33

Always forget the face.

50:36

But but the

50:38

richest people, the the

50:40

the most nasty,

50:42

are the ones that that are

50:45

are you

50:45

know, there's a difference between being rich and

50:47

being wealthy. And wealthy means that you have

50:49

this, like, generational amount of

50:51

money that your family has never

50:53

had to do anything and is never

50:56

going to have to do anything. And

50:58

all the people in the family get a trust

51:00

and all of that fucking shit.

51:02

And that's what, like, that

51:04

that's the thing that I I think

51:06

about, like, often it's like, I

51:08

don't think people know

51:10

what rich is. Like, nope. People don't

51:12

even know what rich is. Like, when

51:14

you start looking at there's

51:16

a there's a classic, like,

51:19

meme of, like, how

51:21

much a palette of how

51:23

much how big a

51:25

palette of a billion dollars would

51:27

be. People don't don't

51:29

watch it. People don't know Yeah.

51:33

People don't know how many people are born.

51:36

Yeah.

51:36

And people don't know how many people are born

51:39

and

51:40

they never have to do anything ever

51:42

in their lives. And then they're like,

51:44

oh, you know, they went to Harvard and

51:46

all they shit. It's like, Well, I would I could've

51:48

fucking gone to Harvard. If I if my dad

51:50

was a rich guy, you know.

51:54

could've done that shit, but

51:56

you know, it's so frustrating. I

51:58

I just I

51:59

fucking hate that shit.

52:01

Also, a psychic guy Leslie said

52:04

if Hitler paid a living wage, I still wouldn't

52:06

like him and think he's still a dick. Yeah. Me

52:08

too. I mean, Hitler, I think, is just gonna

52:10

be one of the biggest dicks. You can't name

52:12

worst dicks. But and,

52:15

yes, I know. Direct actually gets the goods.

52:17

I just don't want to get ripped pulled off of

52:20

online. So I'm not gonna say what

52:22

I would like to have happened.

52:25

Yeah.

52:25

I mean, honestly, in the thirties and forties

52:28

in Germany, you probably actually made

52:30

more than working class people in the western

52:32

world these days. So -- True. --

52:34

they had to otherwise,

52:37

be socialist revolution. So

52:40

Sure. Well, thanks for calling.

52:42

It's always good to hear from you. You're a sweet

52:44

person. Sir, One

52:46

piece out to everybody.

52:48

Five to power.

52:51

Yeah. Alright. We

52:53

we are yeah. I just got

52:55

fiery there. Everybody, were you excited

52:57

that I got fiery? It's been long time since I

52:59

got fiery because I'm

53:01

generally an extremely

53:04

negative person. answer

53:06

the next call.

53:08

And hello,

53:11

who am I talking to tonight?

53:15

Hey, it's Hank from Los Angeles,

53:17

California. Hank,

53:18

I thought you were dead. So it's

53:20

good to hear from you.

53:23

I

53:23

often wonder the same thing.

53:25

Yes. I

53:26

took a took a few weeks off. Ted or did

53:28

have a job?

53:30

Get a job.

53:33

No. No. Yeah.

53:36

No. I'm IIIII also I was

53:38

calling a whole bunch of us calling every week and I figured,

53:40

you know, because of the you know, I I thought I was supporting,

53:42

you know, but I also realized I was maybe in the

53:44

way. And I've been kind of in a bit

53:46

of try to screw my head back on

53:49

straight. I'm always battling my brain

53:51

and the way my body works. So just,

53:53

you know, took took a few weeks off. a few

53:55

weeks off. But but here I am.

53:58

Yeah.

53:58

Amanda here from me. How about a man?

53:59

How's life treating you?

54:02

Good. Well,

54:03

about I'm turning the

54:05

corner, maybe, you know, coming around.

54:08

All this talk about the cost of living and

54:10

stuff and, you know, when I was working at the young turks,

54:12

I was making around, like, forty 2KA

54:14

year as a video editor, maybe

54:17

a little more than that with overtime. And

54:18

I was I was barely getting by. III

54:21

just happen to have kind of lucky apartment situation

54:23

in terms of my rent. Like, it's still over a

54:25

thousand dollars a month, but I don't I'm

54:28

not you know, I can I can squeeze by. And my

54:30

roommate is cool if I miss, like, I he he's

54:32

okay with me taking on rent debt. We've been

54:34

we're practically married. I've been we we've been

54:36

together for, like, ten years. That's

54:38

sweet though. III wouldn't

54:40

be.

54:41

I'd be going nuts. But,

54:43

like, that's son of a big tank.

54:45

I don't

54:47

blame them. I tell them all the time. Kick me out, brother,

54:49

you know, but, you know, we get along. Right? We we

54:51

look out for each other, you know, we're we're pals.

54:53

We're we're It is nice. Whatever.

54:56

If

54:56

you live with somebody

54:59

Right. Yeah.

55:01

Yeah.

55:01

If you live with somebody that you

55:03

like, that is, like, really priceless. You

55:05

know you know what I'm saying? Like, it's

55:08

the same way. I mean, I've been living

55:10

with my wife for

55:11

like twenty years, maybe more,

55:14

than

55:14

than twenty years --

55:16

Yes. -- definitely more than twenty years.

55:18

And, you know Oh, yeah. It's been,

55:21

you know, My daughter's been here for eighteen

55:24

and, you

55:25

know, it's truly pleasant, but

55:27

there was a period of my life where I had roommates

55:29

and stuff like that. And it's like, kind

55:31

of a hassle living

55:33

with other people and

55:35

their shit whatever their shit

55:37

is. Yeah.

55:39

Yeah.

55:39

Especially none of them whom

55:42

you're having sex with. Like, III

55:44

very much passed the roommate phase of my life.

55:46

I'm in my early forties, but I live in Los

55:48

Angeles, and I put, you know, a a

55:50

burnout creative in Los Angeles, you know.

55:52

So I'm struggling. it's

55:54

gonna be a while. I gotta I gotta get some shit

55:56

together before I can afford

55:57

to live by myself or have, like, a partner.

55:59

You know what

55:59

I mean? Like, just get back into dating pool and

56:02

and and lock some poor

56:04

person down and with me.

56:07

And, you know Yeah. Hey. You know,

56:09

it it happens when it happens. You

56:11

know? Actually, I I love it when

56:13

I try to give, like like, I I've

56:15

even had people message me about, like, dating

56:18

advice and I'm like, dude,

56:20

you're

56:20

asking the wrong motherfucking guy

56:22

about that because I would have been terrible

56:24

at it. Number one. And number two, I just

56:26

never did it. I I, you know, I've been with

56:28

my wife since

56:30

one year after high school.

56:32

Yeah.

56:33

So your advice should be like, well,

56:36

you're gonna be able to vote in a couple years.

56:38

and you should, you know, get a ride to the

56:40

roller rink. Barossa one's car

56:42

or

56:42

I don't know. I don't know how nineteen year old's date. It's

56:45

been a while for me too. I didn't

56:47

quite remember. I you know, we saw the movie

56:49

rush more together

56:50

and the movie go. We saw go

56:53

and

56:53

rush more together. That's two dates,

56:55

I remember. And then on

56:57

our one year anniversary,

57:00

yeah,

57:01

they're good date movies. Hey, you know,

57:03

that's just me. I she paid,

57:05

but

57:06

I didn't

57:07

I didn't have the kind of money to pay for that.

57:10

And then on our one year anniversary.

57:12

I went to the department store

57:14

and I got a credit card

57:17

that gave me, like, a two hundred dollar limit,

57:19

which is come on.

57:21

So

57:21

there was this hotel by

57:24

our house where we grew up

57:26

that was like a high rise, but not

57:29

really like a high rise. You know, probably twenty floors.

57:31

It just it had a pool. It was a Hilton.

57:34

And it it was tall. You

57:36

know, you got to the tenth floor or whatever like

57:38

that.

57:38

And I got us a room for

57:41

one night at that hotel. And

57:44

it

57:45

was like, I felt I

57:47

felt rich, you know. And

57:50

we ordered pizza

57:52

was just like it seemed like such a rich thing

57:54

to do. And then it's like, I never

57:56

paid that credit card ever.

57:58

And it just kinda went

57:59

away. That's that's a big lesson.

58:02

It's like, if you just wait, they just go

58:04

away anyway.

58:05

But

58:07

yeah. Yeah. we say no tell. And then after

58:09

that, it was kinda like we moved in together.

58:12

Yeah. I've been talking about

58:14

us moving out

58:16

a lot lately because my daughter's eighteen.

58:19

And

58:19

I I truly

58:21

do not I

58:22

mean, honestly, she could stay here for the rest

58:25

of her life. I'd be happy with that. I

58:27

love it. But

58:28

I'm

58:30

like trying to I don't ever wanna chase

58:32

her out, which I don't think

58:34

she would ever perceive that. But I'm

58:36

like, I'm I'm like, I wanna make it great

58:38

to, like, live here.

58:40

You know? So I'm trying

58:42

to be, like, out of her business and

58:44

stuff like that because, I mean, she's going

58:46

to college

58:47

next year too, so she might be

58:49

gone. being taught by

58:51

somebody that makes twenty five thousand dollars

58:53

a year.

58:56

Yeah.

58:56

You you you know, you're obviously

58:58

a pretty good dad. I say your daughter and you

59:00

seem I didn't listen to the episode with her, by the way.

59:02

So, hopefully, I'm not not wrong

59:04

here. But, no, you got you you seemed to have great

59:06

approach, and she we'll probably, you

59:08

know Like like those parents that are, like,

59:11

it's a you you just turned eighteen. Get the fuck

59:13

out of here. Or I heard a story about a guy

59:15

whose family

59:16

was that you? Or I don't know Yeah.

59:19

It's odd. I I don't even remember what I heard it was.

59:21

But it's just, like, madness when people go

59:23

real strict at that eighteen year

59:25

old thing. Now now or

59:27

they start charging rent immediately and threaten

59:29

to kick them out.

59:32

Yeah.

59:32

Oh, no. The one I signed, they were at a restaurant.

59:34

They went

59:35

to someone they went to a restaurant with this person

59:38

for their eighteenth birthday. and

59:39

then they, like, embarrassed the the the

59:42

eight eighteen year old who didn't have money and I

59:44

think was, you know, head disability. Like

59:46

like and then forced that person to oh,

59:48

that that they didn't let that person order because she wasn't

59:50

gonna be able to pay for herself at her at her own

59:52

birthday dinner on on her eighteenth birthday.

59:54

So crazy shit like that. just

59:57

but I think there's just so many, like,

59:59

maniacal

59:59

old thinking

1:00:02

inner culture through this work cults

1:00:04

society that used to be or that kinda

1:00:06

still is a slave empire, you know, this like,

1:00:09

the the attitude's about work and about where

1:00:11

people's value

1:00:12

you know, sources. And I

1:00:14

I mean, myself, like, I I was raised by, like,

1:00:16

a conservative father, you know, you know, my

1:00:18

mother wasn't really didn't have politics or something.

1:00:20

But I I sort of started with kind of an ambient

1:00:23

conservative bent. And

1:00:24

I went to school for capitalism. I

1:00:27

ran a business for most of my twenties

1:00:29

and I've kinda now I'm very,

1:00:31

very far on the left and I'm open to it

1:00:33

being persuaded more and, you know,

1:00:36

every every little bit of history I learned,

1:00:38

it just is still clear that the

1:00:40

the way to kill a planet is for what

1:00:42

Europe did to the world. And it takes about

1:00:44

six hundred years. You know, they colonized everything,

1:00:47

they stole everything, they claimed to boil the land,

1:00:49

they and closed every everywhere. And

1:00:52

a cap, you know, that was became

1:00:54

our world we have now. We're the only

1:00:57

you know, driving force is insecurity

1:01:00

and fear

1:01:01

and and massive accumulation by

1:01:03

those at the very, very top. And

1:01:05

using mass manipulation of

1:01:07

mass media now that we've got global

1:01:09

interconnectivity and all the stuff.

1:01:12

And now they'll both point at your air conditioner and

1:01:14

say that that's proof that you're you're actually just

1:01:16

a spoiled baby. Meanwhile, your

1:01:18

people are dying because they can't afford health care.

1:01:21

You know, I let me I

1:01:23

thought this I don't know if it's gonna make any

1:01:25

sense, but there was this Instagram

1:01:28

video

1:01:28

of a turtle. A little cute turtle

1:01:30

was on its back and a bunch of and there was a bunch of other

1:01:32

turtles around it. little

1:01:33

turtle was flopping around. It couldn't it

1:01:35

couldn't write itself. But of course, the other turtles come

1:01:37

over and they flip it over. You know, you've probably

1:01:39

seen it. Really cute. adorable. We got it. We we

1:01:41

all feel good when we see that. But like,

1:01:43

what do humans do? When

1:01:45

when the humans on its back and it needs help,

1:01:47

the

1:01:48

people who can help that human charge that

1:01:50

turtle money. Like, can you imagine one of those

1:01:52

hurdles is like, oh, good. Give me some fucking money

1:01:54

before I flip you over. This is a great

1:01:56

opportunity for me to, like, pad my bank

1:01:58

account. that's

1:01:59

what happens in America.

1:01:59

If somebody gets hurt, a rich person's gonna

1:02:02

get more rich. And that's absolutely fucking

1:02:04

sick.

1:02:04

And that's I go ahead.

1:02:07

I I think about that that, you

1:02:09

know,

1:02:09

they call it the protestant work ethic, and

1:02:11

I I think about, like, I

1:02:13

turned eighteen and, you know, I

1:02:15

didn't have a car because, you

1:02:17

know, my parents wouldn't let me have it.

1:02:19

They wouldn't

1:02:20

let me get one. They wouldn't let me get my driver's

1:02:22

license until I got good grades.

1:02:25

and guess what? I never got

1:02:28

good grades. I mean, I got

1:02:30

enough to graduate

1:02:32

You know? But

1:02:33

I always had like an f

1:02:35

or a d on every report card

1:02:38

because I hated school. didn't like doing it.

1:02:40

and And you

1:02:42

know, they they kind of

1:02:45

they wouldn't let me get my license.

1:02:47

I turn eighteen and they're like, go get a job.

1:02:49

We need you to pay rent. here.

1:02:52

And I'm like,

1:02:54

I mean, I

1:02:55

don't have a car. How do

1:02:56

I get a job? And they're like, I don't know. Fucking on my

1:02:58

problem.

1:02:59

And so that's how

1:03:01

I ended up getting kicked out. I I was gone.

1:03:03

I was done. At nineteen, they kicked me

1:03:05

out. I I just I didn't even

1:03:08

know what I was supposed to do. And I

1:03:10

don't think they did it. I

1:03:12

I

1:03:12

mean, I think my parents are fucking assholes.

1:03:15

but I don't even know if I think they did

1:03:17

it to be assholes. I

1:03:19

think they might have done it because

1:03:21

they think that they needed to teach me

1:03:23

a lesson.

1:03:25

on what you're supposed to do and

1:03:27

how you're supposed to carry

1:03:29

yourself in the world. But it's like, I

1:03:31

right I

1:03:32

don't think that that is some lesson

1:03:35

that needs to be taught, like

1:03:37

immediately when you when

1:03:39

you get older,

1:03:41

when you get to be eighteen, nineteen

1:03:43

years old, like, you can hold

1:03:45

off on on the tough love lessons.

1:03:48

for a while, and maybe even just

1:03:50

enjoy the fact. because I'm enjoying

1:03:52

the fact that, you know,

1:03:54

my kids here, she can handle herself,

1:03:56

she can do all of her own stuff. I

1:03:58

don't have to do stuff for her,

1:03:59

and don't have to, like, be on top of her

1:04:02

all the time, finding out what the pucks she's doing.

1:04:04

She's an adult. She's eighteen years old.

1:04:06

I don't have to fucking do that. And that's what I

1:04:08

wish my parents would have done. And

1:04:10

my wife's parents actually did the same thing.

1:04:12

They wanted to you

1:04:14

know, they were like, she's eighteen years old and

1:04:16

they're like, here's your curfew. This is when we went

1:04:18

home. And

1:04:20

I was just like fuck that. Move

1:04:22

out. like fuck them. Well,

1:04:24

tell you that there's a curfew because

1:04:26

you're eighteen

1:04:28

and you still live at

1:04:30

their house and then she left and you

1:04:32

know, you get this thing where, like,

1:04:34

why

1:04:34

would you, like, want to have

1:04:36

a bad re like, the way

1:04:38

things are set up, that type of thinking.

1:04:41

Right? That

1:04:43

that type of thinking was like,

1:04:46

ah

1:04:47

so harmful. to our

1:04:50

my parents

1:04:51

generation. Because

1:04:53

they just fucking felt like

1:04:55

it was something they had do. And I know

1:04:57

when I was back on Facebook, hey,

1:04:59

this is a Fred Dursett brother. Don't

1:05:01

you yell at me about the yankees? This

1:05:03

is I'm doing this for more of

1:05:06

I'm

1:05:06

doing this for more of a Fred Durse reasons.

1:05:09

But thank you.

1:05:10

the But

1:05:12

anyway, I I just think like

1:05:15

I don't know. I hated, like,

1:05:18

I hated their way of

1:05:20

doing things. And I find that,

1:05:22

like, when I was on Facebook,

1:05:24

A lot of the people I grew up with were

1:05:26

doing the same fucking shit.

1:05:29

And it it really made me

1:05:31

crazy because it's just like we know

1:05:33

that is not the way to do things.

1:05:35

We really have like this whole generation of

1:05:37

people who are depressed and anxious and shit

1:05:39

like that. And we should fucking try

1:05:42

to do something. You

1:05:44

know, we should try to do something different.

1:05:46

Make people's life easier. You know, it

1:05:48

doesn't have to be hard. And that

1:05:50

seems to be the conservative

1:05:53

the

1:05:53

conservative like ethos is

1:05:55

the no. It does. It has to be hard.

1:05:57

That's

1:05:58

the way life -- Yeah.

1:05:59

-- life is hard.

1:06:02

Right. Like, video games. Right? Like,

1:06:04

a hard video like, not everybody's can

1:06:06

finish the video game on hard mode.

1:06:09

and there's a couple of psychos in the world,

1:06:11

like, I would say, what's her face, Elizabeth

1:06:13

Holmes, for instance. She seems to have,

1:06:15

like, the mental construction think that whole

1:06:17

story is incredibly interesting, but she's like

1:06:19

Taylor made for capitalism, sort of sociopathic

1:06:22

drive. She obviously was willing to lie.

1:06:25

All the willing to exploit people willing

1:06:27

to, like, string people along. There's

1:06:29

a lot more to say about that, but it did hold their topic.

1:06:31

But, like, some people do

1:06:33

do okay in this in this in this crazy ass.

1:06:35

fucking society because people are pretty good at video

1:06:37

games on hard mode. But, like, the insistence

1:06:40

that everybody else has to also play on

1:06:42

hard mode on the hardest possible setting

1:06:44

when we could have we we actually have the ability

1:06:47

to make this planet easy mode. This is that I

1:06:49

I really think of Earth as heaven. Like, they're really

1:06:51

I

1:06:51

suppose, like, there's we're

1:06:53

not gonna get better than this planet. It's a

1:06:55

beautiful amazing thing

1:06:57

floating around a sun, you

1:06:59

know,

1:07:00

it's just and and we're gonna let these capitalist

1:07:02

vampires kill the plant or kill

1:07:04

the habitability of humans because

1:07:07

they wanna have money in millions of

1:07:09

years. like, you were you guys were sorry.

1:07:11

Like, I'll be I'll just ramble for another minute, then I

1:07:13

know you wanna say something. The

1:07:16

the money that the capitalists are accumulating are

1:07:19

Like, what is that dollar? What is what

1:07:21

is the four billionth dollar doing

1:07:23

in a Cayman Island account or in in

1:07:25

a stock valuation or whatever else? It's

1:07:27

it's It's not serving that person. It's

1:07:29

not getting spent. It's not circulating through

1:07:32

an economy in any kind of way. The

1:07:34

actual utility of that dollar

1:07:36

is that it preventing a poor person

1:07:38

from reaching the base the minimum

1:07:40

basis of their human rights and their human needs.

1:07:44

And in order to to maintain leverage,

1:07:46

over them when it comes to compelling labor

1:07:48

from them or from preventing them

1:07:50

from having the energy or the wherewithal to

1:07:53

stand up and and demand for a better world

1:07:55

and organize because not everybody can work.

1:07:57

And not not everybody should fucking have to work.

1:07:59

You know?

1:07:59

Like, the

1:08:01

the the amount of work we actually have to do

1:08:03

in order to sustain a really, like, wonderful

1:08:05

world to fill with abundance. And I don't

1:08:07

mean, like, We all live in luxurious mansions,

1:08:09

but I mean, we have abundant social connections,

1:08:11

and abundant warmth, and abundant love,

1:08:13

and abundant, you know, security

1:08:16

in terms of knowing that you'll have help when

1:08:18

you need it. Because only the wealthy, they're allowed

1:08:20

to access that kind of abundant. And

1:08:22

it's absolutely enraging.

1:08:24

I gotta get back to doing my podcast to get I

1:08:26

just get excited to talk. Go ahead, Brian, your turn.

1:08:28

I will say, and this was something I was thinking about

1:08:30

earlier too, and I fucked up and forgot where I

1:08:32

was at, but I think that two things that

1:08:36

that are never that

1:08:38

I think need change and that are are

1:08:40

never going to change. or or

1:08:42

or I feel, you know, negative

1:08:45

thinking about it because it just is something

1:08:47

that

1:08:50

it just feels like something that's a little

1:08:52

bit

1:08:52

ah

1:08:54

hard to express. And one of those

1:08:56

is, again, the the seven

1:08:58

percent Pay

1:09:00

increase

1:09:01

is Like, we just gotta do away

1:09:03

with that. But it's not helping anybody.

1:09:06

It has to be ten percent or

1:09:08

more. in order to make

1:09:10

a living a difference in

1:09:12

somebody else's life. And

1:09:14

the reason I'm bringing that up is because and

1:09:16

the reason you bringing up Elizabeth Holmes

1:09:18

had me thinking too. Now, she's an

1:09:20

insanely privileged person, you know,

1:09:22

she all that stuff. I'm I'm

1:09:25

saying,

1:09:26

She was wrong, and she committed

1:09:28

fraud and and and fuck some

1:09:30

people's lives up and shit like that.

1:09:32

I will say, they gave her eleven

1:09:34

and a half years

1:09:36

in prison. And it's just like,

1:09:38

when are we gonna sit down and look

1:09:40

at, like, sentencing?

1:09:42

too.

1:09:43

Like, everybody gets, like, more

1:09:45

than a decade. And and, like, somebody

1:09:48

on Twitter, and I wish I could remember who it

1:09:50

was because it was in it was a really

1:09:52

incredible thing to say. But, like,

1:09:54

that that when another

1:09:57

country sentences somebody to

1:09:59

three to five

1:09:59

years, Americans

1:10:01

are like, that's it. I

1:10:03

was like, dude,

1:10:04

there is almost

1:10:06

no crime that should be more than two

1:10:08

years. Like, there's

1:10:11

and and that's the way I think about raises

1:10:13

too. You know, we are so stuck

1:10:15

in a time

1:10:17

when

1:10:18

when shit was just going up and

1:10:20

up and up and up and up and money

1:10:23

stayed down and prison sentences

1:10:25

just keep going up.

1:10:26

further and further and further,

1:10:27

eleven years for fucking lying.

1:10:30

And again, she's privileged. But what does

1:10:32

that say about people that don't

1:10:34

have money or live. You

1:10:37

know? They we

1:10:39

should People should be getting like,

1:10:41

if you do fraud and you fucking

1:10:43

what? Yeah. I mean, but even minimum

1:10:45

security prison is like

1:10:48

prison. It

1:10:49

still sucks.

1:10:50

ah

1:10:51

And also,

1:10:53

yeah,

1:10:55

white collar criminals that fuck people's

1:10:57

lives up don't need to

1:10:59

stay in a nice little place. They can

1:11:01

go to the same place and do

1:11:04

their amount of time.

1:11:05

I hate the idea

1:11:08

of

1:11:09

I hate the idea of people spending

1:11:11

a decade or

1:11:13

more in prison for like almost

1:11:15

anything. You know? So

1:11:17

I

1:11:17

don't know.

1:11:18

the That

1:11:19

just came up. Well, that's terrible. But

1:11:22

Yeah.

1:11:22

That shows the punishment. That's because they

1:11:24

want punish her for eleven years, not

1:11:26

actually serve society. So, like, rehabilitative

1:11:29

ex exile

1:11:31

or what what's the word more exclusionary

1:11:34

you know, somebody does something the society

1:11:36

says, you're not allowed to do. We're gonna exclude

1:11:38

you from society for little while. But

1:11:40

in a re rehabilitative model, you get there

1:11:42

you get all kinds of training. You can have,

1:11:44

you know, develop some, like

1:11:47

maybe

1:11:47

get to be able to do some personal growth that you hadn't

1:11:50

been able to do. there's there's lots of flaws

1:11:52

with those models as well leading towards

1:11:54

the ballot abolition of prison is is

1:11:56

is certainly what we should be shooting for. Yeah.

1:11:58

Although I am for putting

1:11:59

wage debtors into prison

1:12:02

for more than ten years, that would be great. I'd like to see

1:12:04

some CEO I would like to talk to a fucking volcano

1:12:06

to tell you true. There would be a volcanic situation.

1:12:10

I agree. I criminalize wage theft.

1:12:13

But, like, for with Elizabeth Holmes,

1:12:15

it's not like that

1:12:17

that that sentence is designed to make

1:12:19

sure she doesn't commit another fraud.

1:12:21

It's not she's gonna pull off the same scam.

1:12:23

You know what I mean? You she's gonna have to go get

1:12:25

hired and go work with other partners. And now that she's

1:12:27

famous, she'll be able to monetize it off her fame,

1:12:30

which

1:12:30

is another great And that's her other things. She'll be able

1:12:32

to write. and and sell her

1:12:34

rights to her story and all that kind of stuff. Oh, of

1:12:36

course. Of course. And that's another thing too.

1:12:38

It's it's sort of like like

1:12:40

ah

1:12:42

I just III

1:12:44

watched the doc about this fucking

1:12:48

this fucking cop, which by the way,

1:12:51

I don't care if he rots for the rest

1:12:53

of his life, but it was in one of those Norweigan

1:12:56

countries. And

1:12:57

and

1:12:58

They it's they accused

1:13:01

him of doing some shit. I don't even know

1:13:03

what the fuck it was. But, like,

1:13:06

But he

1:13:08

he got, like, ten years. And

1:13:10

there was, like, outcry

1:13:12

in this Norwegian country, like,

1:13:14

ten. No. He got twenty years, which

1:13:17

was the maximum sentence. They said,

1:13:19

that's the maximum sentence anybody

1:13:21

can ever get.

1:13:23

is twenty five years or something like

1:13:25

that. And I'm like, that's that's

1:13:26

the right way to be doing shit because,

1:13:28

like, we we just I mean, they throw

1:13:30

poor people away in a deep

1:13:32

dark warehouse prison hole

1:13:35

and, you know -- Yeah. -- they're not

1:13:37

getting less than ten years

1:13:39

ever. It's fucking nuts. It is

1:13:42

you know,

1:13:43

you know, II0

1:13:46

yeah. Scared fee said they

1:13:48

let VARG record albums in prison

1:13:50

for murder. in Norway. That is true.

1:13:53

I did see that. They they were just

1:13:55

they they're like, hey, you wanna learn to

1:13:57

cook? Do it. But you know what?

1:13:59

That means

1:13:59

when they get out, they got some shit to

1:14:02

do. Like,

1:14:02

they get out, they learn to cook,

1:14:05

and then

1:14:06

Maybe they can live a life. We don't

1:14:08

set that up in this country.

1:14:09

You fuck up and you're fucked. Your

1:14:12

whole life is just fucked

1:14:13

after it. You know?

1:14:15

Yep. disposing

1:14:16

of people writing them

1:14:18

on. A lot of that that comes out of

1:14:20

the hyper individualism that, you

1:14:23

know, is baked into everybody's brains, which

1:14:25

is completely destabilizing

1:14:27

because nobody can ever think of systemic reasons.

1:14:31

But, you know, for instance, there

1:14:33

is, like, examples of exceptions.

1:14:35

Like, I I don't know the guy's name. He was a shooter

1:14:37

in Norway, killed fifty something people.

1:14:40

really, really bad dude. And

1:14:42

they had him away. I think the the thing was and

1:14:44

forgive me if I'm missing the details. But I believe

1:14:46

it was, like, twenty year sentence and then they could

1:14:48

renew a twenty year sentence if they chose

1:14:50

to. I think you could

1:14:52

make an argument for excluding someone

1:14:55

who who murdered fifty something people

1:14:57

for the rest of their life,

1:14:58

you might be able to make an argument that that

1:15:00

they they might be safe to go back on the streets

1:15:02

after ten years too. That's the kind of thing, like,

1:15:05

government has a responsibility to

1:15:07

find the exact balance. That's obviously sort of

1:15:09

an outlier case. I don't even

1:15:11

in the Utopian society, I think

1:15:13

there's still going to be the occasional need to say,

1:15:16

to protect people in our world, we have

1:15:18

to exclude this person. And that means that this

1:15:20

person does not get tortured they do not

1:15:22

get treated terribly. They should there was actually,

1:15:24

I remember a news story about I I wanna say his

1:15:26

last name was Brivik. Andres andres Brivik

1:15:28

or something. Okay. Where he was

1:15:30

upset because his PlayStation was

1:15:32

like or he he wanted a better video game

1:15:34

system. And, of course, to Americanize, that

1:15:37

sounds like an absolute crazy you

1:15:39

know, think that a prisoner is even allowed to

1:15:42

have access to a a video game system, let alone

1:15:44

complain that they're not getting a good one. the

1:15:46

point I care about in terms of this sort of

1:15:48

extreme one is that give them who

1:15:50

cares? As long as the guy can't kill anybody,

1:15:52

as long as the person is not in society,

1:15:55

in hurting people.

1:15:57

Let them live a life of comfort. Let them live

1:15:59

a a,

1:15:59

you know, relative not not don't don't

1:16:02

put them up in the in the lubes the, you

1:16:04

know or actually, that would be funny. I should they should put

1:16:06

precedence in in, like, the Queen's ballot.

1:16:08

Yeah.

1:16:09

Well, you know, there are I I don't know. Maybe you

1:16:11

can't stand. Maybe I don't know.

1:16:14

Yes. But, like, in our in our world, we

1:16:16

we think of it. For us, it's punishment because

1:16:18

it's about the demented psychology of a

1:16:20

of a of a terrified colonizer

1:16:24

brain, you know. Like, we

1:16:26

we the European

1:16:29

people invaded these lands

1:16:32

slaughtered them. And every single

1:16:34

generation as we expanded across

1:16:36

these continent or North and South America, they

1:16:38

were filled with fear. because we knew

1:16:40

we deserved to be killed by

1:16:42

the people who were kill who who we

1:16:44

were afraid of,

1:16:46

not just the victims we were we imported

1:16:48

to force them to bondage and slavery,

1:16:51

but the people the indigenous folks who had

1:16:53

every right to shoot you with an arrow because you

1:16:55

had no business stealing their land. So

1:16:57

fear is baked into the American brain.

1:17:00

I see it. It just seems so so apparent.

1:17:03

I see it in my dad who grew up in con you know,

1:17:05

he's a conservative loves loves his guns.

1:17:08

I this the more you learn about history, the more it seems

1:17:10

just like this whole everybody in this

1:17:12

goddamn society is tormented by

1:17:15

the crime of the lasting

1:17:17

crime of colonialism and capitalism and

1:17:19

the fear that's baked into our psyche.

1:17:21

And getting rid of that is so hard. It's

1:17:23

so it's so hard. especially these days.

1:17:26

I also think when you're seeing

1:17:29

punishments and stuff, like

1:17:31

like as high as they've been, like,

1:17:33

the I

1:17:35

mean, that is technically sort

1:17:37

of the government or the state or

1:17:39

capital

1:17:40

saying what should happen to somebody

1:17:42

if they're transgressive.

1:17:44

I guess.

1:17:45

And, you

1:17:47

know, maybe I was transgressive enough.

1:17:49

Although, like, you know, with my parents,

1:17:52

one of the real big issues I had was that,

1:17:54

like,

1:17:55

they wouldn't

1:17:57

they

1:17:57

wouldn't let me do things.

1:18:00

if

1:18:00

that makes like like, I wanted to

1:18:02

I wanted to do this thing where you go to school

1:18:04

a half a day and then you go to work.

1:18:07

And my dad's like, no, you're too good for that.

1:18:09

And

1:18:09

it's like, I'm not, actually. I'm fucking

1:18:12

here struggling. I can't do this. This

1:18:14

isn't my type of thing. I just

1:18:16

wanna literally do anything else I wanna go

1:18:18

learn how to work on cars. No.

1:18:20

Nope. And and they just didn't want me

1:18:22

doing I mean, they really just didn't want me doing

1:18:25

blue collar work. I I think they

1:18:27

maybe felt shame

1:18:29

if

1:18:31

if we went into blue collar work in

1:18:33

a way. to me, like like they had

1:18:35

failed, which is another

1:18:37

weird sort of working class

1:18:39

thing. I've heard you talk there.

1:18:42

Yeah. I've

1:18:42

heard you talk about that before. And

1:18:44

I actually have a kind of a comparable

1:18:47

the

1:18:48

cost of class division or

1:18:51

I'm being on the class divide. Like, I

1:18:53

I actually was very lucky to have my college

1:18:56

paid for in the late nineties when I went to school.

1:18:58

I had a relative who had been

1:19:00

a successful business person

1:19:03

exploiting workers for profit and

1:19:05

they gave like, they the money trickled down. The

1:19:07

guy had a a million or something bucks. At

1:19:10

one point was the largest jewelry store

1:19:12

in Iowa. which is pretty goddamn

1:19:14

impressive. And so was a it was

1:19:16

a jewelry business. And

1:19:18

I had around forty five thousand dollars

1:19:20

to spend on college, and it was enough to afford the

1:19:22

state school education. And I was very

1:19:24

fortunate not to not to have school student

1:19:26

debt for that. But during,

1:19:29

like, growing up, we also we're on food

1:19:31

stamps for a a good stretch. And

1:19:33

I was like a scholarship

1:19:36

kid at a, like, a fancy

1:19:38

pants you know, upper class school

1:19:40

that for some reason, my mother, you know, my mother

1:19:42

was dealing with, like, a unregulated

1:19:45

mental illness and stuff like that. So she

1:19:47

she was working at the time at a as a cashier at a

1:19:49

grocery store and she chatted up the headmaster

1:19:51

of the school about her amazing sons

1:19:53

and she got us in there we were, like,

1:19:55

the poor kids at, like, a rich kid school for little

1:19:58

while. And then they kicked me out in the middle,

1:19:59

but yeah. It was

1:20:01

yeah.

1:20:01

It was goofy. It was just goofy. And

1:20:04

So, yeah, I've kinda been on various

1:20:07

sides of the sort of wealth divide. But I I

1:20:09

very much understand kind of what you're saying about, like,

1:20:11

things being beneath or or below

1:20:13

you. You know, I was doing Postmates

1:20:15

in Los Angeles for a few years and, like, you

1:20:17

know, I'm in my late thirty now I'm in my

1:20:19

forties, but this is a years back. I'm,

1:20:22

you know, I was so humiliated about that.

1:20:24

Like, the class kinda bring the thinking of

1:20:26

that. And I have a in a very obsessive mind. I actually

1:20:28

discovered that I'm on autistic this year, by the way. That's

1:20:31

one another thing I've been kind of reeling from.

1:20:33

I learned I was autistic this earlier

1:20:36

this spring, which honestly, that

1:20:38

explains so much about why I've struggled

1:20:40

in the last several years. I've been in severe autistic

1:20:42

burnout. I had no idea. So

1:20:45

I kinda got that. I needed to say something

1:20:48

to the chat here. Real quick.

1:20:50

Crestmont said my favorite my

1:20:52

favorite thing living in Indiana is

1:20:54

the meth head. that are like pro killing drug

1:20:56

dealers. It's so nuts. And it scarbs

1:20:58

fever set, cursing your dealer is

1:21:00

normal addict mindset. And I want

1:21:03

to agree with Scarrab's feast.

1:21:05

If you heard the things that I said about

1:21:07

my old drug dealers, I

1:21:10

would seem like an enormous asshole.

1:21:12

Like, I I if I was still fucking

1:21:15

on on pain pills, I'd probably

1:21:18

be like, yeah, we gotta kill all the drug dealers because

1:21:20

they fucking suck and they won't answer my

1:21:26

But yeah. I mean,

1:21:29

Go

1:21:30

ahead. I I just think, like,

1:21:33

the the the punishment thing

1:21:35

is the thing that, like, fucked us all

1:21:37

up. And I think it's the thing that makes

1:21:39

us all fucking kinda anxious and shit

1:21:42

like that, you know. My daughter

1:21:44

is

1:21:45

kind of AAA0I

1:21:47

got crossed the munk wrong,

1:21:50

but you know what I mean? I just like,

1:21:53

being a pro cop criminal. Yeah. I

1:21:55

mean, that is like a thing that,

1:21:57

like, he he was saying,

1:21:59

like, being pro cop. And and I'll say

1:22:02

this, Like, I used to go

1:22:04

to I was when I was out in

1:22:07

Gatlinburg, I saw a lot of Kilroy Local

1:22:09

Drug Dealer shirts. So I totally get

1:22:11

it. I get I I totally one hundred

1:22:13

percent get it. I just III

1:22:15

was just joking around. I I just cursing my

1:22:17

drug dealer was, like,

1:22:19

fifty percent of my day

1:22:21

back in, like, two thousand two and

1:22:23

three and four.

1:22:26

Yep.

1:22:26

But every bar owner is a drug.

1:22:29

Yeah. They're not too bad. But

1:22:32

I

1:22:32

wanna say that No. But just think that logic

1:22:35

Yeah.

1:22:35

Hank, it's been fun talking to you

1:22:38

again. You did call back any

1:22:40

time, dude. I like regulars.

1:22:43

So you're good, man. You're

1:22:45

okay.

1:22:47

You

1:22:47

are you are too. I I just

1:22:50

let me

1:22:50

say someone in the chat wanna know about the cat.

1:22:52

I I have adopted a cat. I rescued this

1:22:54

little stray And and

1:22:56

I have a lot to say about that, but she's still engrained

1:22:59

it. She's real sweet. Oh,

1:23:01

yep. Oh, she'd see Yeah. HAG

1:23:03

didn't So Thursday. to take my heart.

1:23:05

I see if she notices. It's really fun.

1:23:08

Does

1:23:08

she notice? Does she

1:23:09

notice you cut in gas? Or is that not yet?

1:23:11

Okay. Well, Hank,

1:23:14

I'm at a good time. again. Alright. Feel

1:23:16

feel feel my love. call anytime.

1:23:19

Good night. Who do I?

1:23:21

Good night.

1:23:23

Hi. That's fun to hear,

1:23:25

Hank. That's fun to hear that's fun to hear

1:23:27

from Hank everybody. He's

1:23:29

He's

1:23:29

a good old sweetiepie. Took

1:23:32

some time off and

1:23:34

now

1:23:34

we're all back. We're all back working together.

1:23:36

Let's take another call here.

1:23:39

Hello there. Hello.

1:23:41

Hey, dude. Hey. This is David Orlando.

1:23:44

What's

1:23:44

up, Dave? Oh, I'm excited. I didn't mean to

1:23:46

interrupt. This is Brian.

1:23:49

This

1:23:49

is Brian.

1:23:51

I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:55

I don't know. I'm

1:23:57

I'm all over the place, man. first time,

1:23:59

long time,

1:24:00

discovered your podcast.

1:24:02

I wanna congratulate you

1:24:04

on a great shock cover.

1:24:07

and I absolutely loved it.

1:24:09

Thank

1:24:10

you. I appreciate it.

1:24:12

It was a fun year. I think the new thing's

1:24:14

really fun too. I just released

1:24:16

my first episode of Gut Shot,

1:24:18

a podcast where I was

1:24:20

listening to that. I heard that one. It was amazing.

1:24:23

Hey, guys. I'm excited to see what comes

1:24:25

from that. Dude, how

1:24:28

I gotta tell you.

1:24:29

It is literally one of

1:24:32

the most crazy things to hear

1:24:34

a guy.

1:24:35

Bam. In

1:24:36

front of an audience that specifically came

1:24:38

to see him. It is just

1:24:41

for me, I I love doing to October,

1:24:44

and I'll always do it. But

1:24:46

right

1:24:47

hearing a guy bomb in front of an audience

1:24:49

that that came to see him is that's,

1:24:52

like, right in my sweet spot. Makes me

1:24:54

feel great. So

1:24:56

Thank

1:24:57

you. Thank you for liking it. So

1:24:59

that's that's one thing that I'm really confused

1:25:02

about with the latest episode of October.

1:25:04

I've listened to it

1:25:05

and or, excuse me, gut failure.

1:25:07

What what do you call gut shut? whatever

1:25:09

it's called. Yep. But

1:25:10

-- Yeah. --

1:25:13

it's it's it's it

1:25:15

is it does he have a live audience

1:25:17

in there?

1:25:18

Or is it like the producers going

1:25:20

like booh or whatever?

1:25:23

No.

1:25:23

It's a live audience. That that is a live

1:25:25

audience. I I understand where you're coming

1:25:27

from there thinking

1:25:28

it might be what he did on red eye.

1:25:31

No. He's got a studio audience and

1:25:34

I mean, he's just eating shit. Like, the people

1:25:36

that are coming to see him aren't reacting to his

1:25:38

jokes because they're bad. They're like not

1:25:40

good jokes

1:25:41

either.

1:25:44

Right. Yeah. It's not funny. I

1:25:47

I I'm

1:25:48

familiar with the environment. So that's

1:25:50

awesome that they're just, like, pulling people

1:25:52

from Craigslist to comes

1:25:54

to this guy showing New York.

1:25:58

Yeah.

1:25:58

Yeah. I I got a

1:25:59

somebody asked what shocked over is Liam and

1:26:02

the chance I would have shocked over. Go to

1:26:04

patreon dot com slash street fight radio

1:26:06

slash October is a yearly thing that

1:26:08

I do as a season.

1:26:10

I do a season every October,

1:26:13

and I do a couple of episodes I

1:26:15

I do episodes every few months during the year.

1:26:17

and I'm gonna start doing more streams of it,

1:26:19

but I don't know how old you

1:26:21

are, Liam,

1:26:22

or where you're from, but There

1:26:25

were radio DJs in the United States

1:26:27

that were all over the country called

1:26:29

shock jots. And they were just

1:26:31

extremely fucking like

1:26:34

offensive

1:26:35

and nasty guys.

1:26:37

And I cover five

1:26:40

or six of them every year and

1:26:42

kinda just talk about them and what

1:26:44

makes them nasty. So

1:26:46

the

1:26:47

yeah. So that that's all.

1:26:50

That's what it's October is.street fight

1:26:52

patreon dot com slash street fight radio.

1:26:54

And I promise you'll like it. It's very fun.

1:26:56

Even if you've never heard of a

1:26:59

shock shock ever.

1:27:02

And you don't know what it is. I think

1:27:04

that, like, people who had never

1:27:06

heard of them before

1:27:08

you know,

1:27:10

they

1:27:10

end up being like, these are some fucking

1:27:12

insane guys. I I didn't even know this was

1:27:15

happening. So That's all. That's

1:27:17

my pitch. And and I think

1:27:19

people like it.

1:27:20

But Yeah.

1:27:21

That that Well, I called in to

1:27:24

talk about the pitch.

1:27:26

No. No. No. Specifically,

1:27:28

the last episode of a Shuktober

1:27:31

Manpower, you know,

1:27:32

he everybody loves him. And

1:27:34

yeah and

1:27:36

I wanted to bring something up that

1:27:38

I feel like you glazed over

1:27:41

or missed. I don't know.

1:27:43

But interesting

1:27:45

thing in preparing for the phone call,

1:27:48

it

1:27:48

looks like man cow has scrubbed all

1:27:50

his what

1:27:52

is called Monday morning madness,

1:27:55

and they're gone.

1:27:57

Thankfully, he Like, he won't so

1:27:59

I wanna point

1:28:01

excuse

1:28:01

me? I think

1:28:03

he moved to rumble. That's

1:28:04

I listened to a lot of them. I rumble this

1:28:07

year.

1:28:07

He seems to be I

1:28:09

see. Saying that he seems

1:28:11

to be saying that he can't work on YouTube

1:28:13

anymore because of all the censorship. But third

1:28:16

and charge at Yelp told him

1:28:17

that he has never seen such

1:28:20

shadow banning as

1:28:21

it is with him. So he's

1:28:23

he's putting the next step up. You gotta go

1:28:25

to ManCal's microaggressions and

1:28:28

then go to videos. Yeah.

1:28:30

No. I went there and I was looking you know,

1:28:32

like, tonight, I

1:28:33

was looking there.

1:28:35

And I'm like, I I gotta bring

1:28:37

up this one trip, this one one

1:28:39

little clip. And, thankfully, it's

1:28:41

the one that's still left up from what

1:28:44

I've seen.

1:28:45

and it's, like,

1:28:47

Robert Dobby,

1:28:50

I believe. The guy that made the the

1:28:52

hunters left up movie, whatever

1:28:54

it's called. Yeah. And and and and and

1:28:56

and and then the most amazing thing to me

1:28:59

that you missed out

1:29:01

is that

1:29:04

he's he's fucking hitting the ball

1:29:06

in the first three minutes like like like

1:29:08

like, this guy is a radio professional. Yeah.

1:29:11

He's on camera smoking some

1:29:13

weed. You know? And it's like it's like,

1:29:15

I'm cool with it. But, like,

1:29:17

it's oh, oh, like

1:29:19

like like this this jerk

1:29:21

you got working in Florida. doing

1:29:23

your video and audio and

1:29:25

shit. It's like, this guy's been a

1:29:27

radio broadcaster for,

1:29:30

like, how many years. You know, III

1:29:33

remember listening to him on nine eleven.

1:29:36

And it's like, okay. And

1:29:38

then yeah. Here he is. We'll put some weed.

1:29:42

Yeah. I mean, yeah,

1:29:43