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And welcome to another episode. I am your host, w

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I z e. I'm very excited. My next guest

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Is a renowned leader in business growth and men's leadership.

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Welcome to the show, Pradeep Sangha. Hey. Hey. Thanks for helping

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me. Oh, the pleasure is mine. The pleasure is mine, man.

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Alright. So let's just let's just jump right into this. I got some questions.

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Yeah. For sure. I love the intro, by the way. Thank you very much. Thank

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you. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Alright. Can you share a bit

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about your journey and how you became a leader in business growth

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and men's leadership? Yeah. Well, okay. So journey

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kinda started a long time ago. So, my parents

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were immigrants from India and they came over And

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pretty much just like most immigrants, they knew how to work hard.

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Right? So they they kinda did some manual labor, and then eventually what had ended

1:34

up happening was, they They had bought their own business, and that

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business ended up, was actually an orchard. So when they came over, they

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just knew how to work on a On a farm or an orchard because that's

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what they did back in India. And so my brother and I, we grew up

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on an orchard. Like, literally, my oldest memories

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I've been about growing up in an orchard. My parents used to put us in

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an apple bin when they used to pick apples. You know, that was kinda like

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our play pin was an apple bin to contain us. But

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long story short, basically, my parents, you know, they bought

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a business. So at a young age, I was very much into business and from

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the perspective of, Well, my parents are immigrants, they don't have any

2:13

real education, and how are they doing better than a lot of the other people

2:16

that have been around for a very long time? And I started to try to

2:19

figure that out. And then I went into the

2:23

corporate world because my parents were like, you know what? We don't want you working

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on an orchard. We want you to go out there and actually get an education.

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Right? Because most immigrants, that's the the number one thing that kids. Yeah. Yeah.

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Get an education. So I went through, went to multiple different business

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schools, landed, I worked my way up. I

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got into executive roles. I was mainly in the banking sector for 14

2:44

years, successful executive and then my heart wasn't in it

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anymore because I I love serving, you can say the underdog,

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the smaller guys and gals out there, the business owners. And so I

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left and started my own firm and started working with

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business owners. I still do a lot of work with bigger companies well, but that

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was kind of my journey. But the reason why it I have a

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unique twist to it, that unique twist is that at a young age, I

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actually started to study Neural Science, Like when I was at

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a very young age, like less than 15 years old and trying to figure out

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how the brain actually worked properly and how we could actually use our fullest

3:21

potential as human beings. And I I've been studying that for over

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25 years now. Plus my dad

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Being a business owner, having a family,

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he struggled with alcoholism. Like, that was one of his Personal

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challenges was he was a great dad when he was sober, did

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everything for his family, and and did so many

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amazing things, but He really wasn't fulfilled in life, and as a

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result, basically, he got got stuck with alcoholism, and he couldn't let it

3:50

go. And then eventually that caught up with him, and he passed away. But I

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actually started to study the psychology of human beings because I was

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as a kid I always wanted to try to help my dad. Because I was

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like, how can I help my dad stop drinking so much? And it's almost

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like a futile attempt. There's no way that a son is gonna be able to

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stop his dad from drinking. Right? In fact, it probably caused

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more attention than anything. But that gave me a unique, you

4:15

could say, skill set. So my background's in neuroscience, In psychology as

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well as business and seeing the challenges

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that men have gone through over the years. Like we actually did a whole bunch

4:25

of Studies on men in particular, and

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partnered with research institutions, universities,

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academic institutions to really figure out the psychology of how men

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work, and that's basically what gave us the skill

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to be able to work with men in particular from a leadership perspective because now

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we know what makes them tick. So our whole

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goal is to help men not only be better business leaders, but be

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more better husbands, better fathers, and ultimately be more

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fulfilled within themselves because guys are built differently than

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women Where guys aren't as open

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as women are, and we will literally burn

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ourselves out before we actually ask for help or

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even acknowledge that we have challenges. So that's my mission. That's

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ultimately my purpose because my dad passed away 5 years ago. And

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so for me, this is a personal mission, to help other men because

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I don't want other men to struggle like my dad did. And

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Inadvertently or you can say indirectly, we work we help a lot of women

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as well. Because when their husbands are happier, more fulfilled,

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More successful in business, have more time for them, have more time for the kids,

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well, it's a win win situation for everybody. And so that's that's essentially

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the journey that we have right now where we work with business owners, executives,

5:43

entrepreneurs, both on the business side, but also on the personal side as

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well. And then that that's very important is,

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yes, it's great to focus on the business, but the fact that you help

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them on the personal side, because that's what a lot of people struggle at. It

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is and when you're struggling on the personal side, that lead that kind

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of leads you to failing in the business side as

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well. So in your experience, what are some

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common challenges that entrepreneurs and business leaders

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face and balancing the professional and the personal

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lives. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think, definitely one of them

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is Is following this false belief that you have

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to sacrifice your personal life to be successful in business.

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You don't necessarily need to do that. There are times where you have to pour

6:30

a lot of time and effort into it that you have to you know, there's

6:33

times that you struggle. There are times that, yes, you have to put in more

6:35

hours than you want to, but if you find yourself doing that consecutively,

6:40

it becomes a pattern, and ultimately that catches up with you. Now be

6:43

because you are have built yourself and trained your mind and trained

6:47

your body to focus more on work, it's harder to shift More

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in family and I'll give you an example, practical example. Most business

6:55

owners and entrepreneurs, when they are at home with their

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families, They're constantly thinking about work.

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Constantly thinking about work. So it's hard for them to be present

7:07

In with their family or even when they have alone time because

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all their minds are trained to do is go back to work. What they what

7:14

do they need to do? How much more money do they need make. How many

7:16

more sales do they need to make? Oh, did someone screw up on something? I

7:19

gotta fix that. Right? Or customer complaint or client

7:23

complaint plane. All those things are what ruminate in our personal lives, so it

7:26

actually impacts us. So we have to be able to draw this line because

7:30

every single element in our life Adds energy

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or takes away energy from the other elements. So

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if you're not eating healthy or exercising or if you don't have

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a healthy relationship. Ultimately, it's a

7:45

simple exercise. You just draw a line down the middle and you say, Is

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this giving me more energy or is it taking away? And most

7:53

entrepreneurs will see that there's Challenge in the

7:56

personal relationship or challenges in other areas of their life, they're actually

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taking energy away from them. So if they actually spent more time addressing

8:04

those, It would actually help add more energy to the business

8:07

side. So that's that's one thing,

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I I would say is very, very common, for entrepreneurs.

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The other one is trying to do a lot of stuff

8:19

on on their own. Right? And this is this is

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where a business owner or business operator goes from being

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a business operator to a business owner, and then eventually go to an investor

8:30

is you you realize that you can't do it all yourself and that you

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can't use this false premise that Other people don't

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have the skill set that you do, or other people don't care as much as

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you do, or you can't find the right people. Right?

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So You have to be able to let go of that control and you

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have to be able to get people to help you. That's where leadership

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comes in. That's where you gotta be able to share your vision. It has to

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be a win win win. So getting other people to take on

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key aspects of your business is very, very

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important Because that enables you to have the freedom to

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continue to do the other things in life that you need to because they again,

9:09

they fuel you And your business because

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burnout is probably the most common thing that business owners face.

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Okay. Alright.

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What is ultra performance? And could you explain What this

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means and how it benefits professionals. Mhmm.

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UltraPerformance. So, for Since,

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as I mentioned, for the last 25 years, I've been focused on high performance

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and human potential, the science behind it, the psychology behind it.

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We even formalized that where we partnered up with universities as I talked

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about 17 different universities and research institutions, and did a bunch of

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research on over 4,000, close to 4,000 individuals,

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where we were taking a look at how do we get people to improve their

9:55

performance in the business world. And we came down with a formula,

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and it comes down into 5 different categories. In that 5 category we

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created an acronym, which is ULTRA. And we

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tend not to use the term peak performance.

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People typically refer to peak performance or high performance, but we don't

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use the term peak performance, and here's why. The

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main reason is the that when you hear peak,

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There's a reason why people say peak performance because that's at the very peak. What

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ends up happening is when you hit your peak, you ultimately come down.

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Right? So ultra performance is about getting to a high

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level and actually maintaining that performance over a long period of time. So that's

10:36

the difference between Ultra Performance and Peak Performance, and there's a formula behind

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it. The acronym actually stands for you have the U

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stands for what we call Unwavering The

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L is for Legendary Skill Advancement, the T is for

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Tenacious Execution, The r is for rapid innovation,

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and the a is for what we call active sustainability. Each of

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these 5 elements, when You add them together they

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become extremely powerful. And I'll just give a

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small example. UNWAVERING INSPIRATION

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It's essentially what it means is that you show up with

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more energy and drive to be able to achieve your goal.

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Right? You gotta be more motivated, you gotta have more energy, you gotta have more

11:20

drive because that is the fuel, right? That's the 1st place where it

11:24

starts. If you don't if you're not Motivated to get off the couch to do

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what you need to do to build your business? If you don't have that energy,

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you're not gonna be able to do it. So that inspiration

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actually, there's scientific elements beneath it because there's a

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biological element. Like, when you're inspired, you feel it in your body.

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You know. Right? You you know when you're inspired, you have a different level

11:45

of emotions. You have a different level of hormones running through your body,

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and we've identified different elements that actually lead up to it.

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So those are, you know, each one of those 5 elements leads to UltraPerformance,

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and our goal was to really come up with a

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framework and a system for

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the average business owner to be able to perform at a significantly higher

12:08

level, and here's why. It's

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ultimately if you take a look at the research,

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the average person's performance fluctuates by up to 65%

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any given time of the day, any given day of the week. So what does

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that mean? You could show up pumped at 8 o'clock in

12:27

the morning, be super pumped for your day, And by noon,

12:31

you could be let's just say you show up with a 8 out of 10

12:34

or a 9 out of 10 in terms of energy and inspiration in the morning.

12:36

By noon, you could be down to 3. Right? By 2 o'clock,

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you could be back up to 8 or 7. And then by 5 o'clock, you

12:43

could be down to 2 or 1. And so that fluctuation, what

12:47

ends up happening is that it creates these highs and lows and it

12:50

reduces your productivity, your efficiency, your effectiveness, your impactfulness.

12:55

But if you can learn how to be at a higher level more consistently,

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you can actually get 8 hours of work done in 5 hours, in 4

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hours, And that's the kind of productivity people need and the

13:06

motivation and drive so that they can actually and how many times have we

13:10

been I've been guilty of it in the past Where I've spent the

13:13

entire day doing stuff and then at the end of the day, I'm like, what

13:16

the heck did I do? Like, what did I actually accomplish? Yeah. Right? You're

13:20

so busy And you're running you're tired at the end of the day, but then

13:23

you're, like, I didn't actually accomplish anything. And that's

13:27

a that's a worst feeling. Right? And and so we gotta get rid

13:31

of that and pull yourself out. And that's where again, this is where the the

13:34

whole formula comes in the system. And and

13:37

and you're right. It's like this those moments where you feel like

13:41

you like, you've been busy all day. And then by the

13:44

end of the day, when when it's time for the reflection and all that, and

13:47

you're like, what did I truly get accomplished? I I I feel

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like I've been working all day, And and and I don't see anything

13:55

that I set my goal like, anything I set my mind to then get

13:58

accomplished. Why why is that? I I

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would say the number one thing, there's a couple of things. Number 1 is people

14:05

we have to understand our brain. Our brain is actually a goal driven organ.

14:09

That's why you have to have daily goals, and not a whole slew of them,

14:12

but at like 2 to 3 goals max. And I have these like I have

14:15

the stack of stickies here. I have the stack of stickies here for a reason

14:19

because when I'm doing an activity that I've scheduled for this hour,

14:23

I write down on the sticky and I throw it on my keyboard because that

14:26

reminds me of what I'm supposed to do because our mind naturally gets distracted. Plus

14:30

you got the Internet, you got social media, you got emails coming

14:34

through. Everybody is trying to get your attention and everybody is

14:37

trying to get your attention because they want their goal

14:41

achieved not your goal. So if you don't write down your

14:44

goals, you're working towards somebody else's goals. Because guess what? If you're on

14:48

Instagram and you're street and you're you're scrolling, that's not your

14:52

goal. That's Meta's goal because they wanna sell you an ad, and they

14:56

want you to buy something. So that's where we have to get better at

15:00

Setting goals, focusing our attention, removing

15:03

distractions. And unfortunately, the way society has

15:07

move towards is it's a lot tougher to do now because

15:11

it's become normalized to be distracted. It's been

15:15

normalized to, you know, look at your email. The average

15:18

person looks at their phone now 300 something times a day. Like, it's

15:22

it's It's habituated into us now to get

15:26

distracted, so we gotta pull and extract ourselves out of that. So that's

15:30

the biggest reason that Impacts

15:33

productivity in a negative way is distractions. Yeah.

15:37

This time this, There's times where I I just

15:41

take a few days to unplug. Like, where I just I'm

15:44

not certain. I'm not checking emails. I'm not Creating con I'm

15:48

just taking that day if I'm gonna sit

15:52

home and watch a movie or just relax, sit on my

15:55

deck. Whatever it is, I unplug. I don't even touch

15:59

my phone. I leave my phone in the in the office, and I

16:03

just take that time to just Do me. Just

16:06

focus that time to to recharge my battery, to just

16:11

not just Not be caught up. Not always like you said, we're we've sent people,

16:15

like you said, checking their phones 300 times a day. Like, it's crazy

16:19

What we do with with with our phones, like, we

16:23

went out to breakfast yesterday.

16:28

Me and my family, and it was a bunch of us, everybody

16:31

was on their phone. Then you look at the other tables,

16:35

everybody's on their phone. And when that you said we

16:38

easily we we get distracted easily.

16:43

It's become a norm now. Yeah. It has. It

16:46

really has. So tell us tell us about

16:51

mind your own business TV series. And what inspired you to

16:54

cohost this show? Oh, okay. Yeah. This this it's a super cool

16:58

show. It's, it's it's a show about entrepreneurism. It's for

17:02

the small business start up owners, that

17:06

are struggling to really grow their business or they're challenged.

17:09

And we, as a panel, help them or give them insight and advice to be

17:13

able to get overcome their challenges. Now the cool thing about

17:16

this is that each of these business owners has a major

17:20

disability or accessibility challenge. So they're either

17:24

in a wheelchair, Some are blind, some have MS.

17:28

Like, it's it's incredible and incredibly

17:32

inspiring to meet these individuals because being

17:35

an entrepreneur is challenging in itself, right? Getting up and going through those

17:39

challenges is a tough thing every single day for anybody who's an

17:42

entrepreneur understands that. But imagine not being able

17:46

to walk or see or hear

17:50

or, you know, something tragic that happened in your life where you were fully functional

17:54

and then you, you just don't have that, your limbs don't work anymore. Like these

17:57

are a lot of the challenges that these individuals are facing, so

18:01

it's a different level of inspiration, different level of challenges.

18:05

And I wanted to cohost this because I was truly inspired by

18:08

these these individuals. Like, I was, you know,

18:12

it's hard to even talk about it without, you know, and hold back my

18:16

tears because these people, And I I would say I was

18:19

completely ignorant as well. I was like, I I was ignorant

18:23

from the perspective of I didn't realize how many people out there

18:27

have accessibility or or disabilities, like

18:30

accessibility challenges or disability. Like, I just sheerly did not, and how we, as

18:34

a society, play blind to it. And this opened my

18:38

eyes up completely, and I was just like oh my god, I can't I can't

18:42

believe there's so many people out there that just don't have access to basic things,

18:46

Right? Like, basic people wheelchairs, how

18:50

they can't even go into certain stores because the stores don't have a ramp.

18:53

Yeah. Right? That's just something simple or they can't read a website

18:58

because they're partially blind or completely blind, and so

19:02

they don't know how to navigate that. So these little things that we take for

19:05

granted, it just gave me a different a completely different

19:09

appreciation for life, and I hope that the viewers that I will have watched a

19:12

show or will watch a show, get the same as well. It's just completely different

19:16

level of inspiration. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely right.

19:20

Recently, I I spoke to a a young man who had

19:24

2 brain aneurysms. And

19:28

he had one, Worked itself back to speak

19:31

and all that, then he had another one, so he had to do it again.

19:35

And And to see him

19:39

where he's at now, he he's you could still see he still has

19:43

he's still working on his speech and all that, But he's doing

19:47

some great things. And I'm like, man,

19:51

look at what you've been through. Right? And

19:55

you're still you still got that dog in your way. You're still grinding. You still

19:58

wanna Dude, dude, so out

20:02

there trying to build your business and all. And I'm looking at them, and I'm

20:05

like, Someone like me. I

20:09

look at that, and I'm like, man, I'm fine. And What am I doing

20:16

wrong? What, like, what is it that is that drive?

20:20

And and that and that just it's just pushing me. I'm like, man, I gotta

20:23

go hard because look at this this man. He's

20:27

suffered 2 brain aneurysms. He's worked his

20:31

butt off to get back Somewhat

20:35

a normal life. And just seeing him and

20:39

and talking to him and and And he and he we had a wonderful

20:42

conversation, and but it inspired me. It was like, man,

20:46

I'm like, I gotta get to work. I gotta, like, I'm I'm

20:50

slacking. I'm looking at this, and I'm like, I'm slacking. Even though I'm I'm

20:54

it was it's just in my mind, I'm like, man, I gotta I gotta step

20:57

up my game. Yeah. I know what you're talking about.

21:01

I know what you're talking about. Some of these people can put us to shame.

21:04

Right? Yeah. Yeah. It it it just

21:08

makes me look at other people that are like, oh, I can't do this. I'm

21:11

like, there's something we're seriously wrong because I'm talking to

21:14

people that that are suffering through

21:18

major stuff, and and we're saying we can't do we can't get stuff

21:22

accomplished. No. It says something we gotta And

21:26

it's and so when when

21:29

you got into the new order, So

21:33

last year, I got to interview Bob Doyle.

21:37

And he he's he's, He he was

21:41

part of The Secret and all that. He we we the documentary and all

21:45

that. And he he was work he was working on a new program

21:49

called, brain rewiring. And and

21:53

we had a great conversation, and and he

21:56

was talking about, like, Changing your thought. Like,

22:00

changing the way you rewire like, you wire your brain. Like, this is yes.

22:04

We are a lot of us are programmed. A lot of us programmed from what

22:07

we learned, TV, schools, and all that.

22:11

What is it that

22:15

You did. Like, were you really heavy into self development? What were

22:19

the things you were doing to to help You rewire your

22:23

brain. Yeah. I I would say part of it was

22:27

luck, and part of it was,

22:31

A lot of practice. Mhmm. So the luck came in from the

22:34

perspective that I grew up on an orchard. So

22:38

It was a very mindful environment. So I

22:42

would literally there were days where I spent the entire day out in the orchard

22:45

and not talk to anybody. So it was just me in

22:49

nature, and therefore, it's just me in my mind.

22:53

And so I learned how to navigate my mind at a very young

22:57

age because I had

23:00

the quiet time with my own mind

23:04

at a younger age, whereas kids these days are constantly stimulated. Right? They're just,

23:08

like, video games, all this, you know, activities, all these kinds of things.

23:12

And so I had that ability that enabled me to be able to think more

23:16

clearly, be more calm with myself, go do a lot

23:19

of introspective thinking and emotional, you can

23:23

say, just assessment in terms of myself. And

23:27

the other thing too was I was lucky enough that my grandfather Immigrated

23:30

over from India as well. My grandparents did, my dad's parents.

23:34

And my grandfather was a very interesting individual. He was in the

23:38

The Indian army for 30 plus years. He fought in in

23:41

wars, but he was a very spiritual man.

23:45

And his father so my great grandfather was a spiritual teacher in India for

23:49

60 years. So that kinda came through our lineage

23:53

where my grandfather taught me this. He taught me spirituality taught

23:56

me about mindfulness practices, meditation practices. So I did that at a

24:00

very young age and it just excelled. It actually enabled me

24:04

to do things differently, where throughout

24:07

school I would get straight a's, I had a photographic memory. I just

24:11

did Things differently than a lot of other kids, not

24:15

because I had a gift, because I

24:19

did certain practices like mindfulness meditation. I started to

24:22

study the brain. So I started to do these different, you know, sometimes

24:26

weird things that, you know, my A family would look at me like, what

24:30

is this guy doing? Like this kid doing? Like I would watch TV sometimes,

24:34

with a volume at the very, very low as possible. So I could try

24:37

to, you know, flex my ability to hear properly.

24:42

Like, I just did weird things like that. Right? Whereas most kids would blast the

24:45

TV. So I tried to exercise my senses at a very young

24:49

age. So I did these practices over time, which which gave me

24:53

the ability to do what I can do now, And so I did

24:57

a lot of personal development as well. I did a lot of reading, in my

25:00

teens. You know, people like Tony Robbins and,

25:04

you know, Jim Rohn, all those kinds of authors I I read at a very

25:08

young age, so that definitely helped me on my journey and

25:11

path. The other piece I would say is I had great mentors,

25:16

and these mentors were not influencers. They weren't famous

25:20

people. They weren't Rich people, wealthy people, they were everyday

25:24

people. One was my grandfather. So

25:28

he taught me about values and principles.

25:31

And today, we idolize influencers. We idolize people that have a 1000000

25:35

followers, but we forget about those individuals that have real life experience. Mhmm.

25:39

And a lot of those are the elders. Right. And we minimize

25:42

the wealth of knowledge and experience that they have. So I was, I

25:46

was, you could say,

25:52

Lucky enough to have learned and taken on a lot of that knowledge from

25:56

the elder generation as well. So that's kind of, in a nutshell

26:00

where, you know, things kinda progress for me. And I was just tenacious,

26:04

When I when we go through challenges in life, like my dad's alcoholism,

26:08

it was it was scary because he was a big dude. Right? He was £240,

26:13

he was a big guy, and if he drank too much,

26:17

which happened actually quite often, sometimes he would just

26:20

and he got pissed off, it was like a bomb went off in the house.

26:24

And it was a very Scary environment as as a young kid because I was,

26:27

like, I just hope my dad could go to sleep. And my dad wouldn't go

26:31

to sleep. Like, that was his challenge. If he drank and actually went to sleep,

26:33

that'd be a different story. But he would stay awake, and so

26:37

we would be on edge until he would go to sleep. And

26:41

so that also taught me How to deal with difficult emotions

26:45

because I went through that as a child, and now people ask me, my wife

26:49

asked me, other people ask me, like, pretty why don't you get stressed? I'm like,

26:52

Because as a child, I learned what stress really was. I was

26:56

freaked out. I was scared to the max. I learned how to actually deal with

26:59

that Stressed at a younger age, so this kind of stuff doesn't stress

27:02

me because, yeah, when you learn through that through

27:06

experience, you learn what really matters too. Like, If

27:09

business goes up and down, great. Whatever. I'm still alive. Right?

27:15

Yeah. No. Yeah. You have. It's

27:18

it's for me, like, so I was widowed at

27:22

31. Right? And My wife but my

27:25

wife had prior to that couple of years prior to that,

27:30

she had introduced me into the world of self development. She introduced me to

27:33

Jim Rome, Tony Robbins, and got me into reading readings

27:37

and because I've always enjoyed reading, but she got me into

27:41

reading self development books and and everything.

27:45

And when she passed, I struggled because it

27:49

was This is my best friend. This is the this is I had spent

27:53

most of my my early adult life with with my wife,

27:57

and so It it was it was a struggle for

28:01

me. I lost I lost my weight for a

28:04

while, and and I was struggling with with a lot of emotions,

28:08

anger, So all all these things going on, and

28:13

it was like, we're not I was in that funk, and it was just like

28:16

one Tragedy after another

28:20

I I I we a year later after I lose my wife, I reconnected with

28:23

my dad only to lose him.

28:27

And it was I was just angry and very self

28:31

destructive, just just not in a

28:34

good place. And when

28:38

I finally when I

28:42

finally decide decided that this isn't where I wanted to be anymore,

28:46

This wasn't this is wasn't what my life was this

28:50

wasn't my purpose in life, and and and I I

28:53

kinda Shifted that and and stopped being so

28:57

angry and and and stopped. And I just I was like, I

29:01

was upset over things I had no control over.

29:05

And so when I decided to not no longer be happy, I mean, no

29:09

longer be angry and and and focused more

29:12

on the things that I could control, which was

29:17

me, was the things that I was doing. Like, The stuff that I was putting

29:20

into myself, like, I got back into reading. I got

29:24

back into to to devote me myself,

29:28

and my life started changing. I I I met my wife that I'm with now.

29:32

We've been together 10 years. Wow. And

29:38

It it it things started shifting. 3 years

29:41

ago, I I got I started podcasting. And honestly, I at 44, I didn't have a clue of what my purpose was.

29:49

I didn't know what I was meant to do or and I

29:52

started podcasting, And I

29:56

found out I had a voice, and I found out that I was like, man,

30:00

I love doing this. This this feels right. This doing this here right

30:03

here, It feels good to me. And I just started

30:07

having some wonderful conversations, sharing my story,

30:11

having people come on and share their stories. And it was just like, okay. I just

30:18

started diving into stuff. Just started wanting to learn

30:22

more about Improving my podcast and skills. What I had to

30:25

do to to to take it from where I started,

30:29

where I didn't know anything about podcasting, I didn't have a clue,

30:34

but that's an like, I I just had that hunger to

30:38

learn. I just wanted to learn more and and and

30:41

improve my craft and get better at what I was doing. So I just

30:45

dove right into it. I I started reading more books, started

30:49

taking courses, Got on YouTube, started watching videos on stuff

30:52

on the stuff that I needed to do to help me improve on on

30:56

what I was doing. And it's just been

31:00

like, oh, it's been a a

31:03

wonderful journey, like, because I've been able to

31:07

connect with some amazing people. I've been able to build some relationships and

31:11

surround myself with people that are doing things that I

31:15

wanna do. They're they're regular people. And like you said, they're not

31:18

influencers. They're they're regular people, but I've made these connections

31:22

and these relationships where now I'm learning from them. Now I'm

31:25

like, okay. This is something that I find interesting.

31:30

And they're like and when they and when people see this, They tend

31:33

to gravitate to you, and they tend to wanna help you.

31:37

And and I just I'm like, If you

31:41

would've told me a few years ago I'll be doing this, sitting down here talking

31:44

to you or talking to anyone, I would've laughed. It it was just I didn't

31:48

it wasn't something I was thinking about. Wow.

31:53

That's amazing. Holy crow, Ben. Yeah. Tell

31:56

hearing your story, that's pretty That's inspiring to

32:00

me. And so you've been married for 10 years now?

32:03

Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. To be able to do what you did,

32:07

holy crap. Yeah. 47 now.

32:11

Yeah. Yeah. But, it's it's

32:16

It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, like, just

32:20

these past 3 years, man, it's been really

32:23

different. It's, like, Just

32:28

the way I think and the way I look at it. Even right, like, after

32:31

everything that happened, because this

32:35

a couple of week, week ago, so my aunt passed away from cancer.

32:39

Oh, I didn't hear that. It happened Saturday,

32:43

and that Saturday, I was, hosting an

32:46

event. It was for international podcasting

32:50

day, And we was we was hosting an event for 12 hours.

32:54

And only my co cohost knew what I was going

32:58

through. She she was the only one that knew that my aunt had passed away,

33:01

and and I and the reason I did the

33:05

show because my sister's like, dude. She's like my sister's like, We don't you don't

33:08

need to be here. We're we're taking care of. We're we're here representing the

33:12

family. Go to your event because you need

33:16

that. That's She said that's your space. That's where you need to be at.

33:19

That's where you feel safe and comfortable. Go go do

33:23

it. And And so I went.

33:28

You couldn't tell that I was going through whatever I was going through at that

33:31

moment because I was doing what I love to

33:34

do. I was able to come and and and share,

33:40

Sit share the stage with some wonderful podcasters and and see some

33:44

wonderful people put on some great shows, and and it wasn't

33:47

towards the end that I bought up the

33:51

fact that my aunt passed away, and people were like,

33:55

we wouldn't have known. Like, I didn't I didn't, like, I

33:59

didn't break down, and I wanted to. It was moments that I

34:03

wanted to, but I didn't, and I because I knew that

34:07

She's yes. She's no longer here with us, but I'm the one who

34:11

believes in energy, and and I'm very spiritual.

34:15

And so I know she's around me. She's she's forever. She's like, energy

34:18

doesn't die, so I know she's around me at all times.

34:23

And so it that got me through the show. That got me through the

34:26

12 hours just knowing that she's always gonna be

34:30

around. Wow.

34:35

It's amazing. I'm sorry to hear about your aunt. Wow.

34:44

And so I when I when I look at life now, I look like

34:48

I tell everybody, like, it's precious, man. These these moments are precious.

34:51

Like, Take the time to to do what you wanna do,

34:55

man. If you really want if you feel like this is what you wanna do,

34:58

if that's the path you wanna go, Don't be afraid to

35:02

try. Don't don't let your fears hold you

35:06

back. Because then when you're on when you're on your deathbed, and you're regretting,

35:09

like, Oh, man. I should have done this. I don't wanna be that

35:13

person. So every time I I I I I

35:16

I see something that I I wanna get accomplished, I go out there, and I

35:20

and I try. That's what's the worst that happened. I I

35:25

I I don't get it done. Mhmm. I just keep trying. Yep.

35:30

That's awesome. That's the way to do it. Because

35:34

it's it's a lot worse when you go through life and you have all those

35:36

regrets. Mhmm. Yeah.

35:41

Oh, definitely. Definitely. Alright. So

35:45

your your passion includes helping men become The complete man.

35:49

Could you elaborate on what what this entails

35:53

and why it's important? Yeah. Sure. So I think,

35:57

one of the things here is when we take a look at most men and

36:00

actually, this happens a lot of women too. A lot of people go through life

36:03

feeling like they're missing something. And as a result of missing something, they feel

36:07

like they're incomplete. Well, if you go through your entire life feeling like something's

36:11

incomplete, you're gonna miss out on life, and that's how most people do.

36:14

Right? It's it's the next thing that's gonna make them feel better or make them

36:17

feel whole. But the the concept of complete man is really

36:21

focusing on from within first because a lot of people focus on the external

36:25

world rather than their own internal world. And when you focus more on your

36:28

internal world, as you talked about yourself and sharing just a beautiful

36:32

example, is that when you shift how you feel internally and how you

36:36

internally, the external world starts to shift around you. Yeah. Actually science

36:40

now show shows that and shares that as well, where a

36:43

person's world is a reflection of their internal state. And

36:47

so if we start shifting our internal state, we can actually

36:50

create a life that is completely different. Now imagine if we felt complete

36:54

from within, what would that do for external world? That is ultimately

36:58

what we talk about when it comes to the complete man, and the complete man

37:02

Isn't having perfect everything in your life perfect? Like that's not

37:06

the concept. But acknowledging each element of your

37:09

life and addressing each element of your life

37:13

is what we talk about when it comes to the complete man. And there's a

37:17

thing where it's about being Accepting of where

37:20

you are, but also having goals. The challenge

37:24

is most people don't accept where they are, And if you don't accept

37:28

where you are, you always feel incomplete. But if you accept where you

37:32

are and say, okay, this is okay where where I am right now. I'm content

37:35

where I am right now, but I want to achieve more. I want to do

37:38

more. I wanna make more money. I wanna have a better job, whatever that is.

37:40

That's fine. But you never you don't feel like you're missing

37:44

out when you accept your current situation. And when you feel whole

37:48

complete, that's when you have more energy. That's when you have more drive. That's when

37:52

you actually able to make a bigger You can say,

37:56

a mount more massive impact because who likes to hang

38:00

around with someone that feels incomplete in some way, shape or form.

38:04

People pick up on that, right? Mhmm. And so this is this is

38:07

the most important thing is understanding that when you start to shift

38:11

internally first And being complete, here's the irony of it.

38:15

It's a journey, and that journey is never complete. And

38:19

so that's the beauty of this. It's almost it's kinda like an oxymoron a little

38:23

bit where it's like, you the whole concept of being complete is that

38:26

you will never be complete, But it's a continuous path of growing

38:30

and learning to get to not a place, it's not a

38:34

destination. It's about just growing from where you were 2 weeks ago to

38:38

where you are today. So rather than constantly looking forward and

38:41

trying to compare yourself to that, it's looking back and saying, how much better did

38:45

I get as a result of that? There's a different perception from that perspective because

38:49

when you start doing that, you actually become a lot happier and more

38:52

joyful. People start to, and this has

38:56

been shown now through psychological studies is that when you compare yourself to something

39:00

that you don't have, whether it's You don't have it or someone

39:03

else does have it and you compare yourself to them, you're more likely to be

39:07

depressed. You're more likely to have negative emotions. But when you

39:11

compare yourself to the improvements that you made from 2 weeks ago or 2

39:15

months ago or 2 years ago, like you said, like even you talked about your

39:18

journey and how you've improved, that creates more positive emotions.

39:23

Right? And then those positive emotions create more momentum. And other

39:26

people around you see that and they feel that, and they wanna be around you.

39:30

They wanna be part of your journey. And then it becomes not so much

39:33

about, Hey. I wanna be around this person because I feel sorry for

39:37

them. It's I feel their energy, and I wanna help them achieve their goal.

39:41

Yeah. And that's that's the core concept of what we're

39:44

talking about. No. That that's that's that's I feel that that is

39:48

right, man. That is what you just said is true. When peep

39:52

when when people like, with the shift for me,

39:57

when I really started, Yeah. Just even this

40:01

past year, just this past year, as far as my

40:04

podcast and everything, Like, I had them like, when I've December

40:15

20, 22, I probably had

40:19

almost 8, 9, 8, 9000 downloads.

40:24

And but I had already I had started really

40:29

learning about SEOs, learning about I started using ChatGP,

40:33

learning all these, Really getting involved into the

40:37

the the little stuff in that that I

40:40

wasn't really doing. I got into learning the automation and all this

40:44

other stuff. And I can tell you now,

40:48

as of today, I'm almost to 25,000

40:51

downloads. Wow. In in just this this,

40:55

what, 10 months now since That's amazing. 10, 11 months,

40:59

And and it it it's it's

41:03

really me learning from other

41:06

people and people wanting to teach me and show me because they see that

41:10

I'm eager to learn, and they see my energy, and they see that.

41:16

But one of my friends call me mister big up, and that's

41:20

because I'm always bringing people up. I'm always

41:26

Like, if one of my friends post something to share, I'm sharing this

41:30

stuff. I'm always Giving people their flowers, giving them their

41:33

props. And and for me, it's because I

41:37

feel like, How do I expect anyone to support

41:41

me or even check out any of my stuff if I don't

41:45

support anyone else? So my thing is helping

41:49

lift other people up and and push them up. At the same

41:52

time, they end up it ends up

41:56

benefiting me. It ends up it ends up helping me out because you

41:59

start building these relationships with people, and they start these opportunities start

42:03

coming up. Like, the the hosting of the the international podcast,

42:10

it was someone I'd built a relationship with. He he was

42:13

hosting it. He was he created the event, and I just shot my shots. Like,

42:17

hey. Can can I host the event? And he went, yeah. He

42:20

says, oh, plea he said, thank you. Like, I would love for you to host

42:23

it. And and so it it's those moments.

42:27

It's Those relationships that I've

42:31

built and worked on, and they're

42:35

paying off. And that's because

42:39

for me, it it's like, I'm I'm myself. I'm more I just

42:43

try to be me, and I do I do what I feel is right, and and when I and I feel like

42:50

helping as many people as possible, boosting people up. I don't

42:54

I don't do this for fame. I don't do this for wrecking it. I do

42:57

this because I wanna help people. I've gotten messages from people

43:01

watching shows, telling me how much Episode

43:04

helped them out or what it's those moments that I really truly

43:08

do enjoy. It's it's getting the messages from someone that,

43:12

man, I needed To to see this episode, I need

43:16

to hear what you were talking about. That's what I love. Those are the moments I want more of those moments.

43:25

Yes. Money is nice. It's having all and and and yeah.

43:29

But it's those moments that I really truly do love.

43:34

Yeah. And I could tell just by how passionate you are that you're

43:38

definitely making a difference. It

43:42

was, it was crazy because I recorded an

43:45

episode last year with a friend of mine, And we

43:49

I hadn't released it. I didn't release it till recently. And I put

43:53

a description in it about her. I took the thumbnail to one of her favorite

43:57

pictures. I didn't know it was her favorite picture, but I thought it was a

43:59

very nice picture. And I used it as a I used it in the thumbnail

44:02

and everything. I filled out the description, and

44:07

and she sent me a message. She's like, is that the interview we did last

44:11

year? I was like, yeah. Sorry. I Kinda

44:15

got got lost in the shuffle, and and one day, I'm just looking because I

44:18

was going looking for episodes to to put on. And I see it,

44:22

and I'm like, I haven't released it? And I and I upload

44:26

it, and I put the description and everything, and I tag her in it.

44:30

And and she sends me a message. And she's like, is this

44:34

yeah. And I was like, yeah. That's the episode and everything. And she

44:37

goes, She says, thank you.

44:43

The the words you said about the description you put in there, the wonderful things

44:46

you said about me being positive and all this other stuff. She

44:50

said, I needed to hear that. She says, I haven't been feeling that way

44:54

lately. She says, I haven't been feeling like that for months.

44:58

And when you describe me and you put all this stuff, she

45:01

says, I needed that. And this is her episode.

45:05

This is the episode we recorded. So was to me, it was amazing

45:09

that our our episode together really

45:12

impacted her now. Like, This is like she I didn't know I

45:16

didn't know any of I didn't know she was struggling with anything. It was just

45:19

something me inside of me just said, release this episode. It needs to go out.

45:24

And when it did and I got that message,

45:28

I was like, okay. That's spirit talking. That's this is energy.

45:31

This is what's this is what's supposed to happen, and and this is what

45:35

that's why I do what I do is you never know when you're

45:39

gonna make an impact. Yeah. Wow. That's beautiful.

45:45

It's it's I I'm I am blessed to be able to do this, man. I

45:48

am so blessed to be able to sit down and have these conversations.

45:53

I am. It it's I I learned it's funny because when

45:56

I early on, I felt kind of, selfish

46:02

Because I felt like I was learning so much, and I was enjoying

46:05

it so much. Right? I was enjoying doing it, and I was learning

46:09

so much, and I kinda felt selfish, and a guest of

46:13

mine was like, there's nothing selfish

46:17

about what you're feeling. She's like, there's less selfish shit about

46:20

you enjoying this and doing this because

46:24

just what you're here for is to grow and learn, And at the same time,

46:28

you're also sharing it with your audience. Mhmm. That's one thing if you was to

46:31

keep all this to yourself and not share your content, Then

46:35

maybe you might hear her self ish. But she's like, but you're sharing

46:39

this content. You're sharing that with your audience. You're you're Same

46:43

thing you're getting, they're getting. Mhmm. So there's nothing that that's

46:46

self love. I'm like, yeah. Yeah.

46:50

Exactly. Bang on. But, this has been great, man. I've I had a one look. It was if

46:58

you like, How long is it gonna and we've yeah. It was time flew.

47:03

I had a great time. So you're an amazing host. So this is this is

47:07

awesome. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. I really do appreciate. But

47:11

now is you get the solo screen, you get to plug away, let people know

47:14

where they can find you, everything. Yeah. I think the,

47:18

the simplest way to find me is to connect with me on LinkedIn. That's probably

47:22

the the best platform. Feel free to reach out. You can me a connection

47:25

request. Please let me know that you've listened to this podcast episode,

47:29

and I'm more than happy to, chat with you. So that's That's pretty much

47:33

it. Or if you can if you like, you can always get a,

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48:10

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48:17

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48:20

to if you prefer to listen to it, That's great. If you wanna get the

48:24

book, get the book. Just go out there and support, and

48:27

and and, yeah. Thank you so much, man. This has

48:31

been wonderful. Thank you for having me. So I I appreciate you sharing your story

48:35

because it's inspired me. Thank you. No. I I

48:40

It's it's it's been it's been

48:47

so it one of the questions a question someone asked me was,

48:51

do I regret anything that happened in my life? Like

48:55

and I was like, no. They're like, even though losses and

48:59

all, I was like, no. I wouldn't wish it

49:02

upon anyone. I wouldn't want anyone else to go through it,

49:07

But it's helped me build me into who I am.

49:11

It's it's it's helped me realize

49:15

that Life is precious that you have to

49:19

enjoy the moment and enjoy your life. And

49:23

and so Would I would I do it all

49:27

over again? Who knows? Who knows? But

49:31

it it it this was this was the path that That was laid before

49:34

me, and and then I'm just I'm just looking

49:38

forward to what's up What's ahead? That's

49:41

it. I'm just I'm really excited, man. Like, these last

49:45

few months, honestly, I've been able to sit down and have some

49:49

great, like, even these past couple of weeks, including this

49:52

conversation, have been some very impactful conversations.

49:57

Last week, I had 3 amazing guests,

50:01

and all 3 of those interviews to me were very impactful. And this

50:05

one today is starting off my week. Right? Like, this one right here is also

50:09

starting off my so I I I just look forward to

50:13

all these other episodes because I'm I'm booked through January.

50:17

Like, you said, you booked this you booked this in July. Yeah. Yeah. That's

50:21

right. In July. I'm booked through through January.

50:24

Awesome. And and I and I'm I'm blessed to be able to

50:28

to continue to do this, and and and the

50:32

fact that people find it interesting. Yeah. Definitely. It's a win win. Yeah.

50:40

Yeah. But, don't leave just yet. Let me close out the show, which

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a little bit off the air, and, yeah.

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But thank you so much, man. This has been wonderful. And thank you for having

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me. The pleasure's all mine, man. Definitely, the pleasure's all mine.

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But let me close out the show. Alright, everybody. Thanks to everybody who tuned in. Greatly appreciate it. Facebook

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user. I don't know who it is, but when I look later, I will find

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out and send you a message. Thank you for stopping by, Leaving a

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comment. Big shout out to my

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RealWise fan, puppy j, Brandy j. Love you guys.

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Big shout out to my the boss lady. Love you and appreciate you, baby.

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Big shout out to my guest, Pradeep Sangha, for coming through

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and sharing some amazing, amazing stuff, man. I love

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it. And as always, a big, big shout out to

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all the essential workers out there. You know how your