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Hey guys , welcome to another episode of

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stuck in the Phantom Zone . I'm

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your host , steven . I got my

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homies with me , I

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got Neil and I got my

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brother with me , scott . Scott is back on the

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pod in a long time

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. You know , he's

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ready to spit that hot fire with

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his takes that we're probably

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gonna clip and

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his opinions on Opie . But

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yeah , today we're gonna talk about Oppenheimer , we're

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gonna talk just the whole movie

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movie weekend , bob

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Barbie , hymer , you

1:04

know as they're calling it . So

1:07

, yeah , we're gonna dive into that . Dive into Oppenheimer

1:10

, give give our thoughts

1:12

and all that . So , if you have any spoilers ahead

1:15

, if you haven't watched Oppenheimer , go

1:17

watch Oppenheimer , but give yourself a

1:19

couple hours . You may need

1:22

to watch it in the morning because I don't know if you can survive

1:24

three hours of Oppenheimer

1:26

at night , but don't watch seven

1:28

watch it way before seven . Yeah

1:31

, yeah , yeah yeah , you might have

1:33

a cut off . You might want to do a cut off date , maybe

1:35

like seven , eight o'clock , because

1:37

you'll be there for a while . So

1:42

, yeah , we're gonna talk about that , and you

1:44

know , and also the whole weekend

1:46

and all that . So , before we begin , neil

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, how are you doing man ? How's it going ?

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Feeling good . Just been burning up

1:54

filming outside for

1:56

worth the last week . Oh

1:59

then that just been trying to enjoy

2:01

the AC this weekend , even though it was at the

2:03

beach yesterday . It's

2:05

been very chill though , Been very chill , Very

2:09

chill day , which is good . So catching up on some

2:11

chores , a little bit of reading , you

2:13

know , not too bad . Nice

2:16

, nice man .

2:17

Dude , I don't know man , this

2:19

Florida this every time I get an

2:21

advisory saying heat index over

2:23

110 , I'm just like what's

2:26

going on , like why We've gotten like four

2:28

straight days and just like , all

2:30

right guys , you gotta be careful on there .

2:32

Record heat day yeah .

2:34

Yeah , and that's something

2:36

that y'all need to tell us something about . These

2:39

hot days , Like you

2:41

know , there's gotta be something abnormal

2:44

about having three straight heat

2:47

advisory guys . You just can

2:49

feel like 115 . I was like last

2:51

time I checked , like y'all

2:54

, this is not normal , but you know

2:57

that's how it is . But yeah , Scott

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, how are you doing ? Man , it's been a while . Tell

3:02

us how you're doing , I'm back

3:04

.

3:05

My back what

3:10

I've been doing . I just been been

3:13

moving and I've been also playing

3:15

Zelda .

3:16

The new Zelda .

3:17

That is like like

3:20

that's , all I do is like eat , work

3:23

, zelda , Zelda

3:25

, sleep , sleep

3:27

and Zelda just more .

3:30

Do we have to do ? Are we ? Are we playing

3:32

on doing Zelda , the greatest game of all time

3:34

?

3:36

Oh , it's a game

3:38

, is it ? I don't know

3:40

, it's hard . It's hard Like

3:43

it is really it's is a game of the

3:45

year , though . Um , dude

3:47

, I don't know , this year has been really good

3:49

. Like I am , like I'm

3:52

itching to like finish

3:55

Zelda , so like I

3:57

can hop on like Street Fighter six

4:00

and all these other , like the

4:02

new Resident Evil four

4:04

remake , and I'm just like man , this is

4:07

the . This has been amazing

4:09

year for you know all

4:12

that stuff . I'm like

4:15

five years behind because I just started

4:17

playing like Arceus , Legend Arceus

4:19

like like , I

4:21

think , last man when I started actually playing it , yeah

4:24

, and I , I , I like I

4:26

stopped on like Scarlet

4:28

and Violet , and

4:31

now there's like new DLC

4:33

that's going to be out .

4:34

Oh , it's right .

4:35

So it's like , okay , I have to finish

4:37

this . Yeah , so

4:39

many games .

4:42

That's great to hear , man , Great to hear the video

4:44

game industry going strong , man , because

4:47

you know I'm looking forward

4:49

to my annual Madden and

4:52

the same . Me

4:54

shitting on the graphics and the

4:56

and the glitches . So that's

4:59

, that's my , that's my video game in 2023

5:02

. It'd be like just mad

5:04

and that's

5:06

it . And me just like complaining . I'm

5:08

like damn what I spend . I don't

5:11

know how much games are now . Is it still

5:13

$59 , $65 , $69

5:15

, $99 .

5:17

Oh no , why yeah , yeah

5:19

. It's pretty bad . Well

5:21

, I mean like . And then all

5:24

over my feet , I was like Madden ratings

5:26

, Madden player ratings , and just like

5:28

people are like sharing like Madden

5:31

ratings of , like they're like favorite

5:34

players , and I'm just like

5:36

, oh , that's cool , it's

5:38

going to change . You know that .

5:41

Yeah yeah , updates happen . It's

5:43

just a conversational thing , it's just something to

5:45

get like pissed about . Like why is

5:47

Trevor Lawrence 83

5:50

, or something like that ? I'm just like bro

5:52

, by December he's going to be 95 . So

5:54

don't even , I'm not even tripping , but

5:57

you know but , damn video

5:59

games are getting so a regular

6:02

version of the game is now $70

6:05

. That's crazy , that is hell . You

6:09

pay 69 and you get the ultimate edition

6:11

. Yeah , that's true

6:13

. Yeah .

6:13

That's right yeah .

6:16

Now you're getting the standard with the . You know

6:18

, with the updates and

6:20

all that , I don't know , man , that's

6:23

a whole . Nother pod bro , but glad

6:25

to see the video games . You know we got

6:27

to do a pod bro , we got

6:29

to do a video game . Video game pod

6:32

. You get your rankings . I know

6:34

they change every game that comes

6:36

out , so true , what's

6:39

the next game . No

6:41

game of all time . Yeah , still Zelda

6:45

.

6:45

Still Zelda , still Zelda . Okay , that's good

6:47

.

6:48

All right . Well

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, we're going to talk about Oppenheimer

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, and

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again , spoilers ahead , so

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please watch the movie for you , for

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you , listen to it , always , come

7:04

back , you know , download and then

7:07

come back and listen after you watched it . Before

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we do that , though , do I just talk about the weekend

7:13

? This is kind of one

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of the most hyped weekends

7:18

in movies in a very long

7:20

time . Just having two movies

7:23

, two , two

7:25

like unlikely movies , right ? Like

7:27

you would think it'd be like a Marvel movie and then

7:29

something else , right , but

7:32

it's Barbie and Oppenheimer . I'm

7:34

just from the film and a

7:38

tell film directed by Greta

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Gerwig , who is a very good

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direct , very great director . So

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so I guess we

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all watched Oppenheimer in that

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weekend . You know pretty much within the

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the fever

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that is bar Barbie , hymer

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. I'll start with you , neil , like

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, what was your

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experience like , even before the watching

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the movie , when you got in ? Was

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it packed ? Like , tell me , tell

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me your experience on , you know

8:11

, before watching Oppenheimer .

8:12

Yeah , so this

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was probably one of the highest movies of

8:17

the years or of the year that I was looking forward

8:19

to , just because of just the nature

8:21

of how

8:23

Christopher Nolan shoots his films , his direction

8:26

, his storytelling , the

8:28

way he uses his actors and the

8:31

amount of people that are actually in this movie

8:33

like still mind boggles me

8:35

. But I was looking

8:37

forward to it just from the teaser trailer to

8:39

the whatever the last trailer

8:42

was . I remember I forgot when we was

8:44

watching I think it was Transformers Rise

8:46

of the Beast when they showed , because

8:48

I watched Rise of the Beast in IMAX . So

8:50

I saw the Oppenheimer trailer in IMAX and

8:53

that , even watching the trailer , I already saw it on like

8:55

YouTube and like Twitter and stuff but

8:57

I still got chills just like seeing it and

8:59

then hearing the countdown like

9:01

of , like the nuke about to go off . I was just like

9:03

man , I'm getting like goosebumps . This is

9:05

like ooh . And

9:08

when I was in the movie I

9:10

know we're going to get into a little bit later about how

9:12

you know we thought of it but when I watched the movie

9:15

there was a lot of , there was a lot of people like

9:17

it wasn't super packed because I saw it kind

9:19

of early in the day , but

9:21

it was enough where it felt like I

9:24

was in the old times when movie

9:26

theaters were super packed . I was

9:28

lucky enough I didn't get . Luckily my

9:30

road , for whatever reason , was kind of like sprinkled

9:32

, but everywhere else I saw because it

9:34

seemed pretty packed . And I saw an IMAX

9:37

and there's one

9:39

person literally not super fun road , but

9:41

maybe like six rows and they're staring

9:43

up and like man , how'd you afford

9:45

that , sir ? Oh my gosh . But

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it was . It was definitely an experience . It was definitely

9:51

gave me chills , definitely

9:53

kept me . It's a long movie but

9:55

it still kept me like my eyes

9:57

are super glued into everything that was

9:59

happening and it was

10:02

just an inexperience . And

10:04

when I left the movie theater I

10:07

just felt like gut punched . I was

10:10

like fuck . And I knew , coming

10:12

in , like I had a feeling like here's

10:14

what I'm gonna say . The movie's gonna leave you feeling this

10:16

way . This is what I'm aiming for , this is my

10:19

intention . It was like cool . So

10:21

I came to the theater with that mindset and

10:24

even then , like I saw screen

10:26

testings , people coming out feeling you know that

10:28

way . So I'm like cool , I'm

10:30

like dude , this is direction . Screen testings were , you know

10:32

, accurate . They said they felt that

10:34

way , so I'm expecting it and

10:37

I felt that and

10:40

then some , because it was like fuck , and

10:43

it was so much the process too , I was just like

10:45

damn , what an experience

10:47

. I was just like whoa . But yeah

10:49

, like I know we'll get into a little bit what we thought of it , but that's just

10:51

like my overall experience watching it and

10:54

I felt like I actually felt shaken

10:57

to my core . I got in my car . I'm

10:59

just like . I'm like looking up , I'm

11:01

like all right we're gonna get home . It's

11:03

cool About to get

11:05

some dinners there , right , it's cool

11:07

. Yeah , probably place some Pokemon to like digest . You

11:10

know , palate cleanse myself , but

11:12

yeah , that's how I felt .

11:15

That's cool man . So

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, scott , did you have the same type of

11:20

feeling like

11:22

overall experience of the movie ?

11:25

Yeah , I

11:27

think the movie

11:30

left me just like , just

11:32

like damn rich food

11:34

.

11:35

Yeah .

11:36

Or it just gave me that feeling of like

11:40

we've just done

11:42

it to ourselves

11:45

and this is like

11:48

it was just kind of watching

11:50

the start of the end

11:52

, yeah , and it's just like , oh

11:54

man , like we , like we all know

11:56

where this heads to next , right , and

11:59

it's kind of like doing that whole like

12:01

, and it's it's

12:04

like making every out

12:06

, or like it's a movie

12:09

of like , hey

12:11

, this is how , like , the

12:14

beginning of the end

12:16

of the human race is about to start , and

12:18

it's just like , oh man

12:20

, yeah , I'm sad

12:22

, but

12:25

amazing movie

12:27

really good . Yeah , I

12:29

love sad things , yeah

12:32

.

12:35

I think that was . I think that was my kind

12:38

of initial experience of it . It was

12:40

. You know , I'm

12:43

a big fan of history , I love these historical

12:45

movies and to kind of get Christopher Nolan's kind of filmmaking , you know that was a big

12:47

issue to me . Hey , come on . Yeah , um , okay , here we go , here we go . This is it , there we go , there

12:49

we go . Oh man , okay , it's time for the Band Q on

12:51

something that is like one of the

12:54

seminal moments in

12:59

just science , history and

13:02

just , you know , especially

13:04

, I mean we were in World War II . I mean this

13:06

was the turning point of the war and

13:10

just kind of feeling that sense of

13:12

like you know , I

13:17

think he did a great job of doing

13:19

the . You

13:21

know every moment counts . You

13:23

know , he really portrayed that really well , just

13:26

how much time they like

13:28

, how much , not a lot . They didn't

13:30

have a lot of time to do this because

13:33

you know the World War

13:35

II is happening . So , yeah

13:39

, I mean , overall my experience was it

13:41

was really good , like I was

13:44

leaving the theater . I was very much

13:46

in the same camp of , yeah

13:48

, I was like it was , I

13:50

was in awe , I was shaking and

13:53

also I was just thinking about the future . You know , I

13:55

don't know how you come out of this movie and not like

13:57

, think about , like , all right , these

14:00

people freaking , you

14:03

know , were in the most dire

14:05

situation to create a

14:07

weapon that could , you know

14:10

, win the war , right , because that's all how

14:12

it started . They just want to get their , the

14:14

Americans , home and

14:16

that's how they just had to do it , you

14:19

know . And it was just at the , you

14:22

know , at

14:24

the beginning of this

14:27

whole scientific

14:29

revolution , where it's like , you know

14:31

, you have Einstein stuff and you

14:33

know them just building on it

14:35

and it , creating this , you

14:38

know , creating the bomb . It

14:40

was , it was really . It was riveting

14:42

. I enjoyed every moment of it . And

14:46

it was just kind of weird coming out of theater because

14:49

you know Barbie's happening at the same time

14:51

. So you're coming out like a very like

14:53

zombie . You're like , oh my God , what was that

14:56

? And then you have people dressed in pink , just

14:58

like , taking photos of Barbie , and

15:02

you're like they're having the best

15:04

time of my life , best time

15:06

of their lives , and I'm like , look , I'm like bro

15:09

, is AI the new atom bomb or

15:11

something ?

15:12

I'm like it doesn't matter anymore , yeah

15:15

.

15:15

I was thinking the same thing .

15:16

When I saw like I saw a group of like

15:18

different groups of people dressed in pink and

15:21

all that stuff and like ladies

15:23

in dresses and peeking stuff and they're like woo

15:25

, selfie , tiktok , and

15:27

in my head I'm like it doesn't matter

15:29

. It doesn't matter , we destroy

15:32

ourselves . It doesn't matter God

15:34

Like yeah . Oh

15:36

man .

15:37

It was like two different vibes

15:39

, right , two different

15:41

worlds , like the real world

15:44

and like Barbie world . And I was like

15:46

Barbie world sounds cool

15:48

, but this is more realistic

15:50

. This is more realistic

15:52

and

15:55

you know it was man

15:58

. Like Oppenheimer is one

16:00

of those movies where you really have to put yourself

16:02

in the mindset of

16:04

, you know , understanding the times

16:06

, right , because if you're not big

16:09

into history and all that , just

16:12

understand , just putting your mind into

16:14

the like function of like this

16:17

is the

16:19

probably like one

16:21

of the like top

16:23

creations in

16:25

the world . That kind of like shapes how

16:28

we operate now , you

16:30

know , just with foreign affairs

16:32

. And you know , every time you

16:35

hear a nuke , people just start to like

16:37

freak out . You know , and

16:39

this is kind of like the genesis of

16:42

it , and

16:44

just you know the frame of mind

16:46

now that it started here , like

16:48

this was point A of

16:51

where we're at , where we're

16:53

started and now we're at

16:55

now . So

16:57

, yeah , like it was

16:59

. You know it was a

17:01

crazy experience . We'll talk more in depth in

17:03

a moment . But

17:06

yeah , I just you know it was

17:08

kind of . The weekend was insane , like

17:10

so many people in the theater . Like

17:13

you know , I went to Tinseltown

17:15

that's

17:18

the closest theater near me and

17:20

I've never seen a

17:23

movie theater packed Like that

17:25

almost was like end game level

17:27

, like when Avengers Endgame

17:29

came out you could not

17:31

find a parking spot .

17:33

You had the parking spot . Yeah , back back .

17:35

This kind of felt the same way , and

17:38

it's just because it's two waves colliding . You

17:40

have , you know

17:42

, oppenheimer and Barbie and it's just , you

17:45

know , props are the people bro . Like

17:47

they showed out , like , whether

17:50

you're in the Oppenheimer camp or the Barbie camp

17:53

, you all showed out because these two movies

17:55

are just blowing

17:57

the competition right now in regards to , like

17:59

you know , box office and stuff , end

18:01

game records , you know 2023

18:04

records , you know left and right , and

18:06

this movie's only been out what

18:08

, like a week and a half , yeah , almost two

18:10

weeks . Yeah , so

18:13

it was . It

18:16

was a really cool experience at the

18:18

theater . I've never seen that made people like we went Saturday

18:20

night , so I mean

18:22

, I had an expectation it would be , but

18:24

it was just great to see it . Like you

18:27

know , the theater's packed . I couldn't find a seat

18:29

at all . Like Barbie was legit

18:31

. Like you couldn't find a seat in Barbie

18:34

. Like you literally had the . You

18:36

really had to be a single person , like I'm , like

18:39

I just want to watch it . You can bring along friends

18:41

because it's just so spread out

18:43

, um , and

18:45

it was like that going into the fall . Like

18:47

you know , the Monday , tuesday , wednesday

18:50

, you know I was looking

18:52

at Barbie stuff . I wanted to watch the movie

18:54

. I couldn't find a ticket either . I was

18:56

just like it was insane . And Oppenheimer

18:59

was the same way too . Like over the weekend you

19:01

can not find a seat for Oppenheimer . Um

19:04

, luckily we found some , like you

19:06

know , some good enough seats . I mean

19:08

, they were every . You

19:10

know , when you're in the theater everyone has a kind of different

19:13

view point , but but it's still the same

19:15

thing . But we got some seats for

19:17

, you know , for eight o'clock showing and

19:20

, and yeah , it was , it

19:22

was , it was cool , man , like you know

19:24

, just leaving the theater , a lot of people conversating

19:26

and just like it just kind of felt like like

19:29

you know , those old Friday nights when you were like

19:31

in high school and you just watched like a big movie

19:33

and everyone just kind of just every

19:36

like different groups of people talking about

19:38

you know what they experienced and stuff

19:40

like that , whether it be Barbie or Oppenheimer , it was

19:42

just , it was just a cool vibe

19:44

to be around in the movies

19:46

. You know , as much as I

19:48

love my Tuesday $6 , 11

19:51

am . You know

19:53

. You leave the theater and you're like damn , I get my

19:55

parking spot right up front . There's

19:58

something about a Saturday night , eight

20:00

o'clock , two of the hottest

20:02

movies of the year , and you're

20:04

pretty much in the epicenter of like what's going

20:06

on in

20:09

in movies right now . And it was . It was

20:11

just kind of cool . It was really

20:13

cool . I don't know if we're going to get that . I don't think there's

20:15

. I'm not we're . I don't think we're going

20:17

to experience that for the rest of the year . I think that's

20:20

. I don't think so either . Yeah , I

20:22

mean with the movies late , it's just , you

20:25

know it's kind of like yeah

20:28

, and maybe we might start seeing movies like

20:30

that , for maybe , maybe movies like

20:32

you know

20:35

, I don't know if a Marvel

20:37

movie and the DC movie could do it , like I don't

20:40

think that's even remotely possible

20:42

, but to see two other

20:44

films like I would , you know

20:46

, I hope a movie

20:49

studio is going to make it like a

20:52

they take this day right this whole weekend

20:54

. That just came , that went through and look

20:56

at it and be like , hey , people are excited to go to the movies

20:59

. If they have two movies

21:01

that are , you know , highly

21:03

, you know , very

21:06

anticipated and put them out on the same weekend and see what

21:08

happens . You know , and

21:11

we see , what we had there last

21:13

weekend was it was pandemonium . I've

21:17

never seen so much pink in my life . Like , I was like

21:19

Dan , this is a lot of pink people

21:21

. People who usually wouldn't wear pink are

21:23

wearing pink . Yeah

21:25

, it was like a party bro . I was like man

21:27

, there's some , there's some people . I'm like , damn

21:30

, you wearing pink , man , I just for

21:32

Barbie , good for you .

21:33

Yeah , I said yeah , in my theater there's

21:36

a group of people that saw Barbie

21:38

before and I was

21:40

like , oh , this is not the move , Like

21:42

you should have saw Barbie .

21:44

Yeah , yeah .

21:46

And they do that feature yeah .

21:49

Watch Oppenheimer first .

21:50

Yeah , yeah and end yourself with

21:52

Barbie . I mean , we'll just like end

21:55

, end your double feature with Barbie

21:57

. Do not Start

21:59

with Barbie and end with Oppenheimer .

22:03

I don't even know . You should watch it back to back

22:05

, I feel like you should watch it one day one

22:07

day Oppenheimer , the next day Barbie

22:10

you're going to think about it . You're going to think about

22:12

both movies .

22:13

Yeah , there was a lot of people that did that , which is crazy

22:16

. Like I remember back in the day , I think

22:18

something we would have done , but oh

22:20

yeah , looking at it now , I was just like man

22:22

. There's a lot of people that did that this

22:24

weekend .

22:26

Oh yeah , man Dude , I remember like

22:28

back in the day , like when we were kids , like

22:30

our dads were like Like

22:33

, hey , we watched the movie and then like , oh , you want

22:35

to watch another movie .

22:37

We sneak into the other movie .

22:39

It's just like I'm like man we were

22:41

. Yeah , we were up on those double

22:43

features , man there was legally and illegally

22:46

.

22:46

There was a figure out who it was . I

22:48

think I forgot what it was there

22:50

is . I remember I forced

22:52

my dad to take me to watch the Grinch movie .

22:56

What In the theaters ?

22:57

and I forgot what move is . I can't remember

22:59

, but there was some other like action

23:01

movie that we he liked . When you watch for

23:03

free You're like I won't watch this , but

23:06

let me see the comments for this movie we

23:08

snuck into watch that .

23:10

Oh man , oh man .

23:13

No , I'm sitting .

23:15

Oops , all

23:18

right , so we'll let's jump into

23:20

our favorite moments of the

23:22

movie . So

23:25

, scott , just you

23:27

know , tell me something about the movie

23:29

that you , that you , enjoy . I

23:31

know there's probably one scene we should kind of we

23:33

could talk about . If you bring it up , we'll just dive

23:35

right into it . But tell me some of your favorite

23:38

moments .

23:39

I mean my like , my

23:41

favorite moments were always were

23:44

were after the bomb , after

23:47

the bomb happened , and just like

23:49

like Oppenheimer

23:51

, just like , just doing , like

23:53

oh no , what have I done ?

23:56

Like I tried to like unleash

23:58

this weapon .

24:00

Yeah , my

24:03

favorite scene was was

24:05

the last scene , like him

24:07

and him and Albert Einstein and

24:09

Albert Einstein's like . He's basically like you've

24:11

like doomed us all , you've like

24:14

you've used science

24:17

for like war , war

24:19

, and and here's

24:21

Albert Einstein who is like

24:23

who is equal

24:26

or

24:28

even better , and it's just like you've

24:31

doomed us , you've doomed us all , and it's

24:33

just like that . Like that

24:37

hit . I was just like damn . Like

24:39

even even Albert Einstein

24:41

, like the smartest dude on the planet

24:44

at that time , was like you

24:47

shouldn't have done this , man . It's

24:49

like I feel bad . I liked how

24:51

he asked that question too is like

24:53

did you do Miss all

24:55

, or whatever , and like op-hyper was like

24:57

I said like ask that question

24:59

, he really

25:02

knew the answer . He just wanted to see what what

25:05

opera would say . And he's like I believe I have

25:07

. And then , yeah , that hit pretty

25:09

hard yeah .

25:12

Yeah , I feel that conversation

25:15

was , you know , I feel

25:17

it was well realized because here

25:20

is Albert Einstein , who created

25:22

the starting point for that . Right

25:24

, like he kind of created the formula

25:28

with all that stuff . I'm not a scientist , I

25:30

don't really know those terms up top of my head

25:32

, but he kind of started it and he's scientists

25:35

kind of built upon that . So

25:38

it was almost like how

25:41

I read . It was almost like Einstein passing

25:43

the baton to him . He was like

25:45

hey , you , I

25:48

created something that I didn't know would

25:50

be this . So

25:54

that is like I feel

25:56

like what Oppenheimer created

25:58

and bringing over this

26:00

new type of scientific thinking

26:02

to the United States . It

26:05

kind of like is the 2.0 to what

26:07

Albert Einstein was doing and

26:09

it's that's how I , I

26:11

, that's how I kind of felt

26:13

about it , because it was just a conversation

26:15

of the smart men who

26:18

just try to like

26:20

find their way in the world . Right , like these

26:22

are two guys who have like we have no interest in

26:24

war , we have no interest in , we

26:27

want to just know how the world works

26:29

and what we can do to improve

26:31

it . Right , like a

26:33

big thing was Prometheus , you

26:36

know , he gave fire . He

26:39

gave fire to man . Right , he's the one who gave fire

26:41

to man . And then you

26:44

know , so we're , we're

26:46

thinking of Oppenheimer as this Prometheus

26:48

like Einstein , oppenheimer as these

26:50

Prometheus types to where , like

26:53

they give you

26:56

know what it clearly is the bomb

26:58

, the bomb to to

27:00

the world , you know , and

27:03

now it creates the arms race that

27:05

we'll see , you know , years later . So

27:08

it was just , it was just cool to see that conversation

27:11

realized , because you didn't need to know

27:13

they didn't , they didn't need to like tell

27:15

you straight up in words , right , like

27:17

you kind of , if you know , if

27:20

you know Einstein , you know Oppenheimer and

27:22

their backgrounds and what they've , what

27:24

they've kind of done

27:26

, done for this community of the science , of community

27:28

. They're like legends

27:31

, they're , you know , some of the best ever

27:33

for

27:36

them to have that conversation and just be like

27:38

you know the chain reaction

27:40

. That's another thing that they , they're , you know

27:42

it's it's just an ongoing domino

27:44

effect that's going to , that's

27:47

going to keep escalating . So

27:49

so , yeah , that was , that

27:51

was a really great scene for it to happen at

27:53

the end , to kind of go back to it after we saw

27:55

that in the beginning of the movie and

28:00

to kind of get that conversation out

28:02

the way , because that was just one of those things in the beginning

28:04

of the movie . I was like , okay , what did they talk about , you

28:07

know , and you only got the point of view of Robert

28:09

Downey Jr's character and

28:12

yeah , so , so , yeah

28:14

, that was . That was definitely a top moment . Is

28:17

there any other moments , scott , that you liked the

28:19

movie ?

28:21

Um , let me see , I , I

28:23

like , I

28:27

mean , I I did

28:29

like his like

28:32

Oppenheimer's like American

28:35

speech , like when

28:37

they like learned that the

28:40

bomb was used and and and

28:42

they're like , yeah , america , yeah , and

28:45

it was like it's like yeah

28:47

, america , but then

28:50

like it

28:52

like loses sound , and

28:55

then he like , he

28:57

like saw the aftermath of

29:00

the bomb in his head , yeah , yeah

29:02

, and I was like dang well

29:04

, like usually

29:06

, or after I watched the movie

29:09

, a lot of people were saying like should

29:11

we have seen , like like

29:14

the actual bombing of

29:16

like Hiroshima

29:20

?

29:20

Yes , that's the one Like .

29:21

would that have like , would that have like

29:23

hit the point home and

29:25

I think , like I

29:28

think it would have . Like we all

29:30

know , we all know what happened

29:32

with the bombs and everything , and it's

29:34

just like I

29:36

like my favorite part

29:38

of the movie is like him

29:41

just kind of like feeling

29:44

his weight on , like , oh my gosh , like

29:46

I have made this , like the first movie

29:48

, the first movie , the first time , when we was like , oh

29:50

yeah , I'm gonna make this . I'm a

29:53

theorist , let's go . Yeah , maybe , maybe , yeah

29:55

, it's just like

29:57

, but then , like after

29:59

he's made it and after

30:02

it's been used , he's like oh , shoot , like

30:04

yeah , what have I done ? And

30:06

it's just like , yeah , like it's

30:08

just so good so

30:11

.

30:13

Yeah , I mean that that that scene also

30:15

was one of those . You just

30:17

look back and that's one of the top scenes in the movie

30:20

as well . Just the way

30:22

, the way Nolan

30:24

uses sound throughout this whole movie

30:26

, yes , is

30:28

really good , like it's

30:31

almost Oscar worthy . I don't . Is there a sound

30:33

editing for Oscar ? I guess .

30:35

Sound editing , sound mixing .

30:38

That should be . I mean , if that doesn't win

30:40

it , like I don't , I don't know , but

30:43

the way he effectively used

30:45

sound specifically for that

30:47

, that , that

30:50

scene there , it was haunting

30:53

. It was just that's , that's

30:55

the word that just comes out . It

30:58

was haunting because it was like you look at these

31:00

people or

31:02

just like , just happy , you know

31:04

the pay , you know all

31:06

the American flags are out and you

31:08

see the bomb like his , you

31:10

know it , just silence , and the

31:12

bomb goes , like bomb goes off in

31:14

his head . And then you see , like you

31:17

know the faces , he starts oh

31:19

, yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , and I'm

31:21

just like this is it's good . I

31:25

know , yeah , yeah , and that's the thing , like it was very

31:27

scary yeah , oh yeah . So

31:30

I feel like that was his way

31:32

of saying . Like this

31:34

is I mean , you want to see Hiroshima

31:36

, you want to see Nagasaki ? How

31:38

about if I flip it on you and actually show

31:40

it through what Oppenheimer ?

31:42

thinks it's on his head , yeah .

31:44

Yeah , and using American

31:46

people as like the device to kind

31:48

of show people just being annihilated

31:50

, and it was

31:52

super effective , like it was super effective , like in

31:55

that conversation . You

31:58

know that people are in line with the bomb , like

32:00

I . Just I just feel like if you

32:02

show the bomb , it's

32:06

just like nothing

32:08

will . Nothing will . Well

32:13

, I'm trying to say , like the

32:15

documentaries , all that stuff

32:17

that actually takes real footage

32:19

from that bomb , I don't think he

32:22

would , I don't think it would be able

32:24

to recreate it like seeing it

32:26

, you know , through the , through

32:29

these , all these doc , all these like

32:31

different

32:33

viewpoints through history , whether

32:36

it be you know , because this thing's been covered

32:38

forever . Yeah , you know . So

32:40

it's like to kind of you

32:42

know , to kind of see that maybe

32:45

like it would bring home , but I don't know

32:47

, I think the way he used it was a lot more

32:49

effective , just because we

32:52

know in our minds what it looks like . Right , like

32:54

he's kind of using our minds to

32:56

kind of signal like

32:59

you know what it looks like . Let me show it to you

33:01

in a different way , using

33:03

sound to make

33:05

it a lot more haunting and

33:07

different than you would see

33:10

in any documentary or any

33:12

YouTube video that's talking about

33:14

you know , this event and stuff

33:16

like that .

33:17

Yeah , because I think though I think the

33:20

reason why he went that direction because I kind

33:22

of was feeling that way too where ? Why

33:24

are they going to show us , you know , in like , not

33:26

necessarily the explosion of the bomb or how it's

33:28

used , maybe of like it being dropped

33:30

from like a you know Air Force

33:32

, you know carrier or whatever from

33:35

an airplane ? But

33:37

when I was thinking about , well , like this is , you

33:40

know , this is a story about Oppenheimer . This is what's happening

33:42

through his eyes , like we

33:44

, like you were saying Steve , like we know what the bomb

33:46

, you know , we know what happened in Hiroshima

33:48

and Nagasaki , we know what happened Like

33:51

. So , to keep it inside

33:53

his mind , I think really

33:56

fleshes out more the story

33:58

and the character of you know , oppenheimer

34:00

himself . And that was a great

34:02

scene too , for , like Killian Murphy , I'm

34:04

like and like , yeah

34:06

, the way it was edited , to , like the filmmaking and that

34:08

it's just a great storytelling . To tell

34:10

it in that aspect , like if you're someone

34:12

that didn't get it and you watched it , I'm

34:15

sorry , you're better at watching understanding movies

34:17

, yeah . So

34:20

, like yeah , it's

34:22

true . I mean like I'm

34:26

like also , you have to kind of like like

34:28

watching that scene , you like

34:31

just kind of made me uneasy of

34:33

also living in America

34:35

, and this is kind of like like

34:37

that's what they

34:39

like is war

34:42

, and like being like , yeah , america

34:45

, america wins , and it's just like , oh

34:47

, like you know like even

34:49

like it

34:52

was just like a mirror for

34:54

ourselves and just kind of like that's

34:57

. What made it even scarier Was

35:00

that like this is like real . You know

35:02

, this is like it's actually

35:04

now . Yeah , like it happened back

35:06

then , like that and the stuff that's

35:08

happening similar today , mm

35:10

, hmm , yeah .

35:12

Yeah , so , nio , did you have any

35:14

other favorite moments of the movie ?

35:17

It's hard to really pick one , because I just

35:20

love no one's stylistic

35:22

choice of how he films , using

35:25

film , using as very

35:27

little CGS possible . And for

35:29

people saying he probably did

35:31

in some parts , I mean , maybe

35:33

if there was like I don't think anyone was on a green screen

35:35

, maybe he removed a cloud , that's this guy

35:38

for special for visual effects . Everything

35:40

was special effects , so even a little . You

35:42

know when , when Oppenheimer

35:44

is like explaining things in science and you see

35:46

like little flashes of like electricity and sparks

35:49

and stuff , I think they filmed that . That's , that's

35:51

all their footage they filmed . I don't

35:53

think that's stock footage , so that's

35:56

that's really good special effects usage . I

35:59

think my favorite moment or scene

36:01

was the , the

36:04

when they got the word that they were going

36:06

to test the bomb that day or that

36:08

night and all the factors

36:10

that went into it and how they were

36:13

shot in the buildup with the musical

36:15

score and how the tense the scene

36:17

was . I was just , like you

36:19

know , sitting up like everyone and I feel like

36:22

everyone was tense watching that scene because you're

36:24

just trying to like whoa , like this is

36:26

how it's going down , and I

36:28

think that scene

36:30

, at least with the scientists , like it

36:32

was great to see all those actors you know kind

36:34

of being shed a good light because you saw

36:38

sprinkles of them throughout Josh

36:40

Harnett's character . He was really good in the

36:42

movie , by the way you saw I was like

36:44

oh , should he back , he back . Yeah , but

36:47

to see the other scientist actors , you know , like

36:50

Jack Quaid , freaking , josh Pax

36:52

, I'm sure , josh To

36:55

see , like all the other like science , the actors

36:57

who play the scientists and kind of working together

36:59

as like this one unit now Even

37:02

like the rival scientists and the people who were kind of against

37:04

him . And then obviously you have the military guys

37:06

like Matt Damon's , like

37:09

Leslie Groves or whatever his name is I think that's

37:11

his name Just to kind of see it all come together . And

37:13

then the way the explosion went off . Obviously

37:16

, if people know like about science , when you see an explosion

37:19

you see it first , then the

37:21

shockwave of the sound hits you . So

37:24

to have the moment where he

37:26

actually quotes Oppenheimer

37:29

, where he said it's a quote that Oppenheimer

37:32

himself quoted from , I think like

37:34

some scripture or something , like I become

37:36

the destroyer of worlds , like I become death

37:38

, and then you hear the explosion . I

37:40

thought that's just a really great tense scene . Good

37:43

cinematography . Explosion

37:46

was definitely real . I understand

37:48

the no visual effects . If I was Nolan I would use

37:50

visual effects and just make the explosion

37:52

look bigger , still real explosion , just

37:54

make it just make it look bigger , like that's . My only

37:56

complaint about it is that you

37:58

know you use a real explosion , just like scale

38:01

it up . That

38:03

scene was probably my favorite . And then , honestly

38:05

, dude , like the court scenes were really

38:08

well done . Yes , it

38:10

went from a biopic to like

38:12

a thriller and to a political thriller

38:14

and the way they questioned

38:16

it , questioned him , and the

38:19

way they told the story of the aftermath

38:21

of Oppenheimer . It was also sad . Man Like he

38:23

got , like his . He got

38:25

a lot of people in the science community that hated him . Of course he had his supporters

38:28

, but it just seemed like he got the short

38:30

end of the stick . Government didn't trust him

38:32

. You know , even like Leslie

38:34

Groves , like Matt Damon's , like like I

38:36

trust him but based on like events

38:39

that have happened within our security system

38:41

and our government , you know someone could get a hold of

38:43

him . It's not necessarily I don't trust him , it's

38:45

just you know he has all this information

38:47

he could do . It just sucks

38:49

that he kind of just got the short

38:51

stick at the end . It's just so many

38:54

good actors too . Man Like

38:56

Jason Clark , emily Blunt

38:58

, josh

39:01

Josh , florence Pugh Like she looked

39:03

shy in her moment she was in I

39:06

get that was the more .

39:08

What the hell moment ? I'll be honest

39:10

.

39:13

I knew the movies rated are . I did

39:15

not know there was going to be a sex scene in Florence . Pugh was

39:17

the one . I was just like whoa

39:19

, like five minutes in what's happening . I

39:21

know , yeah , so um , but

39:24

yeah , like those two scenes really

39:26

were really powerful to me . Oh

39:29

, and like Robert Downey Jr , like he's he killed

39:31

it , yeah , and this yes . And

39:34

I don't even think we he was on screen as much . It's a little bit towards

39:37

the end .

39:38

Yeah , it was pretty

39:40

much at the end of the movie , where he was like you

39:43

know he was , he was kind of put the forefront .

39:45

I think he did really good too . Like

39:48

I think this is his best performance outside of

39:50

Tony Stark . To be honest , Like this is really .

39:53

Strong performance .

39:54

Like I will put him in the Oscar category

39:56

for best supporting actor , in my opinion , just because

39:59

he played . He played the villain pretty well and

40:03

it just sucks that his

40:05

character is based on someone who really was trying to like take this

40:09

guy down for a petty reason . So

40:12

yeah , yeah , just those

40:14

two scenes like the courtroom scene or like the

40:16

interrogation scenes , which

40:18

is well done , well shot , well shot . Well

40:22

. The sound was well edited in this , like

40:24

the lead up to the execution of

40:26

the first test bomb . So

40:29

, yeah , just just everyone's shy

40:31

man . Even like actors who had small moments , they

40:33

shine , dude just blown away by their performances

40:36

. Oh yeah , for sure .

40:39

So I okay , so I

40:41

do want to stay on the training test

40:43

. That was probably my favorite

40:46

scene of the movie . I know it's the more

40:48

it's the . It's the scene

40:50

of the movie that you know pretty

40:53

much we've been leading up to half the movie for

40:55

, like , this was as a test and

40:59

I think they they did just

41:01

a great job of just building it up , you

41:04

know , all the through just conversations

41:06

. You know it's like it's

41:09

the very dialogue , heavy movie

41:11

, not really that much action , very

41:13

much a lot of moving parts , and

41:16

you know , through dialogue , you know they

41:18

they kind of just gave

41:21

you that sense of urgency through

41:23

each conversation leading up to

41:26

the test . And

41:28

yeah , like I'll echo

41:30

your center and I mean that that Trinity

41:32

test was amazing Like

41:35

, again , using that sound

41:37

, the sound

41:39

choices for that scene was , you know

41:41

just what you needed for

41:43

that , because you're all , we're

41:46

all waiting in the movie theater for that boom

41:48

Right , and to hear , like

41:51

to hear nothing , it was just pretty much silent

41:53

. And then

41:55

, at a random moment , you see

41:57

, like at a random moment it wasn't even

41:59

like , you know you can see

42:01

it like , oh , it's going to play the sound now , random

42:04

moment , it just hits you . You're

42:06

like oh shoot . For

42:08

me . I was taking it back . I was like , oh shoot , all

42:10

right . And they , they

42:12

picked with some you know you

42:15

don't see it coming and

42:18

I think that's a great way of kind

42:20

of , you know , putting

42:22

us in those shoes at that moment

42:25

because they didn't know how he was going to react . I

42:27

mean , freaking Oppenheimer told Groves is

42:29

like Groves asked him , is like

42:31

could this be ? What's ? What's

42:33

the worst thing I could possibly have ? Like

42:35

I could , we could literally kill the earth doing

42:38

that you know , he told

42:40

Groves like we could kill the earth . It's like so

42:42

what Wait ? And Groves is confused

42:44

what Wait ? What are you telling

42:46

? You're telling me that this

42:49

, we could all die right here , right now .

42:51

And he's like yeah

42:54

, I hope , I hope not . He's

42:56

like what do you want with theory alone ?

42:58

Yeah , near zero . Yeah

43:01

, that's what I said . Yeah , I want zero

43:03

.

43:05

Yeah , man , this is theory , I'll

43:07

tell you dog .

43:09

Yeah , and it

43:11

was just cool how the other scientists

43:13

were like how they're prepping

43:15

for the bomb . People were in their cars

43:17

, people , like you know , people

43:19

were , they were laying

43:22

down on the , on the towel with

43:24

their and everyone is looking back

43:27

. But

43:29

yeah , like that was , that was the defining

43:31

moment of that movie and they executed

43:34

it perfectly . Like I feel like that

43:37

scene just kind of just makes

43:39

it the whole half , first half of the

43:41

movie worth it , right . So

43:45

so yeah , like that

43:48

was probably my favorite scene in the movie and

43:51

you know , I think I

43:53

think my second favorite one

43:56

was when Robert

43:59

Diney's genius character finds

44:01

out he's not going to be in the cabinet through

44:03

like , like when , when

44:05

he when . That I

44:08

forgot .

44:08

That name draw Mr .

44:10

Rob Name draw . Yeah

44:12

, very Malick pretty much exposed

44:14

him .

44:15

Yep .

44:16

I kind of . I was kind of shocked too , because we didn't

44:18

really see that coming , because , yeah

44:20

, through what ? Through you

44:23

know Lewis's advisors

44:26

? they were just saying I , oh , he got it Like he's

44:28

he's not even gonna , he's gonna

44:30

, just you know , he's gonna Cape

44:32

up for you and he's gonna drive

44:34

up and hi to the ground and you'll get your cabinets

44:37

and then we're literally the last hurdle

44:39

and

44:43

pretty much he

44:46

pretty much blasted a man

44:48

and pretty much cost him

44:50

the seat . And you know

44:52

we find out , you

44:54

know he did this whole , like Lewis's

44:57

whole monologue of just . You

45:00

know him just being

45:02

so pissed out , the mastermind yeah

45:04

, he's like the mastermind behind the whole thing and

45:06

you know he got his seat who , and

45:09

you know , he

45:11

didn't get it and it was just kind of like

45:13

, yeah , that's what you get for putting

45:16

someone through the ringer like that and , you

45:18

know , thinking that there's consequences like

45:20

there's gonna be no consequences .

45:23

So so , yeah , I

45:25

really , I really enjoy that scene , but

45:28

yeah , I like that like name drop

45:30

, like , like like the

45:33

senators who , like

45:35

stopped him from

45:37

being under under thing and they were like

45:39

who's like the who's

45:41

? This one is like oh , it's a young guy and

45:44

it's like like it's JFK

45:47

man , yeah yeah , yeah , and . I

45:50

was like it was like

45:52

whoa . That

45:54

felt like I was like yo , like they

45:56

were wanting to like name

45:59

drop him . Yeah , In that

46:01

movie I was

46:03

like whoa . I didn't know . That that's cool

46:05

, I think I wonder if I feel

46:08

like they did that for history's

46:11

sake . Yeah , because I

46:13

know well like one thing also that

46:16

this film did really well was like I

46:19

. If you ask a lot of Gen Z people

46:21

, they probably they still can't really

46:23

answer what exactly the Cold War

46:25

was . This was

46:27

a really good insight to the Cold War

46:29

People like right , we really did

46:31

have like there's like every country that spies

46:33

everywhere , which is crazy , and

46:37

it was good . So it's a good

46:39

intro to what the

46:42

Cold War was like . And then , obviously , you

46:44

know I got guys like JFK . He's trying to

46:46

. You know he's on the other side

46:48

. Like you know this Cold War could happen . I

46:50

remember his like inauguration

46:53

speech is like one of the best in like world

46:55

history about how to like how

46:58

to deal with threats like this . So yeah

47:00

. Yeah , so I think it's a nice little wrinkle

47:03

they did because , you know , it kind of sets a

47:05

tone of like what happens to American history

47:07

going forward yeah .

47:10

Yeah .

47:12

Let's talk about the ending , though like really

47:15

quick , yeah , or

47:17

not really the ending , but like the overall , how we

47:19

feel about the movie . I I

47:22

it's weird because I

47:25

felt super awful , I felt

47:27

crappy , but

47:29

there's also that part of me is like this was a good movie

47:31

but I feel like shit .

47:34

You know , I feel that way .

47:35

So and I've

47:37

seen some people who I think

47:39

they take that feeling too seriously where

47:42

they gave it not necessarily a bad

47:44

score but it's like they miss the point

47:46

of the movie , which is kind of an unfair

47:49

review , like it's

47:51

like if I watch a horror movie and then I said I didn't like

47:53

it because I got scared , it's kind

47:55

of dumb .

47:55

Yeah , yeah .

47:58

I mean it's it's . I like movies that do

48:00

that . I'm not saying every movie

48:02

needs to be that way , but I left feeling

48:04

awful . I didn't feel good but

48:07

I knew I had a great experience as far

48:09

as like this movie like kept me

48:11

glued . So the

48:13

ending of it too , just the , the

48:15

afterthought , you know , I

48:17

think we kind of discussed a little bit , a little bit before

48:19

, but it just I'm on the drive phone . I was just

48:21

thinking , like man , like how many nukes

48:24

do we have ? You know , how many is Russia

48:26

have ? What the hell is North Korea cooking up ? You know

48:28

, like it just makes me think about like that

48:30

kind of stuff , like what is the point ? Like

48:32

I can't there's always war and stuff

48:34

but like what are we doing ? Guys , Come on .

48:37

Can't do anything , better , pick

48:39

up a comic play some video games .

48:41

You know like watch them . Like you know Jags

48:44

90s highlights , just do something .

48:46

Yes , yes , yeah , like

48:48

that's yeah .

48:50

What do you I can't we kind of talked about

48:52

it , but what do you guys think about the , like , the actual

48:55

ending of the movie and how they shot it and to

48:57

kind of set up that idea of , like , where

48:59

the world is now ?

49:02

I think that I

49:05

mean , it did a great job of kind

49:07

of you know , because

49:10

this movie is kind of like a PSA of what

49:12

you know , what could happen

49:14

right , like in in

49:16

the 20th century or 21st century

49:18

or whatever , like how

49:20

that could play out . Like this was just

49:22

, these were just people with formulas

49:25

, with theories , with ideas , and

49:28

for them to kind of create

49:31

this , this weapon

49:33

of that could , you know , essentially

49:35

destroy countries and

49:38

all that it

49:40

. You know , I feel it was super

49:42

effective to have you

49:45

know that final scene with Einstein and

49:47

and Oppenheimer , because there are the

49:49

only two people who know , like there

49:51

are the only two people who know beyond the numbers

49:54

, like beyond beyond just

49:56

any speech or anything like that , like

49:59

what , like what they

50:01

set in motion is again

50:03

that keyword , the chain reaction , and

50:06

and you know you're feeling the effects

50:08

of that , you know they were feeling the

50:10

effects of that and we'll , you know

50:12

, just to end the war . Now we're feeling

50:15

it in a whole different way because everyone

50:17

has , you know . You

50:19

know you hear on the news everyone's . You

50:21

know you got , you

50:24

got North Korea , like testing , testing

50:26

missiles , you know , trying

50:29

to trying to see how far they can . You

50:31

know they can shoot a missile from

50:33

from where they're at . So

50:36

it's almost like this evolution of what

50:39

Oppenheimer and Einstein and them

50:41

started . But

50:44

yeah , like I don't know , I just

50:46

felt , you know the ending

50:48

of the movie , I just kind of felt sorry for for Oppenheimer

50:51

, for at some point

50:53

, because you know he , this

50:55

is a , this is a character that

50:58

is very flawed . You

51:00

know , we understand the beginning of the movie , that you

51:04

know he , he didn't

51:06

really make the best decisions , especially

51:09

when it came to , like you

51:12

know , his affiliations with the Communist

51:14

Party and all that . And

51:17

then you know that being

51:19

getting pretty

51:21

much blowed back at him when , when

51:24

he was interrogated , you

51:26

know , and

51:28

then at the end , when he becomes like this kind

51:31

of like just a figurehead , you know , like

51:33

he's at the White House , he gets a little plaque

51:35

and a handshake and a thank you

51:37

for your service type thing , and it's

51:39

just like that's how , that's how

51:42

these scientists will be remembered

51:44

. You know , like they're always going to be

51:47

the behind the scenes . You

51:49

know it will always be another

51:52

scene . That kind of just just

51:55

kind of put the put like the

51:58

whole bow on the whole movie for

52:00

me is when he , oppenheimer

52:03

, goes in the Harriet Truman , harriet Truman's

52:05

office , and he's like

52:07

he lets him know like

52:09

his , his , like you know his

52:11

who worries about

52:13

you know whatever , and

52:16

Harriet Truman just kind of gives him the little finger . You know he's

52:18

like who are you yeah ? Yeah

52:22

.

52:22

Gary Oldman . Right , gary

52:25

Oldman . I was like yo . Is that Gary Oldman

52:27

? That's Gary .

52:28

Oldman .

52:28

Yeah , no , right , yeah Same .

52:32

And the way he conveyed that and

52:35

he was just like screw you , man

52:37

, like no one's gonna . I

52:39

, it's all about me , like you know

52:41

, it's all about the government . The government now

52:43

owns your

52:46

, you know , your , your

52:49

brainchild , you know , and

52:51

we can do whatever we want , you know , and

52:53

they were even teasing the H bomb too . So

52:56

it was almost like they're already thinking three steps

52:58

ahead . When he was like

53:00

y'all need to stop making these nuclear

53:03

weapons because y'all , y'all are trying to

53:05

, you know , pretty much all y'all

53:07

trying to , just , you know , fast forward

53:09

the end of the world , you know , because , because

53:12

there's no , there was no , there

53:16

was no like parameters , anything

53:19

in check for nuclear , you

53:22

know , development , it was just like , again

53:24

, we , we go to the arms race that happens

53:26

years later , where it's just

53:28

like make as much as you can . You know so

53:33

, so yeah , it was . I , you know

53:36

, I felt sorry for Oppenheimer . I felt

53:38

a whole bunch of different feelings , like he was just

53:40

, he kind of made his own bed when

53:42

, when you , you know , when you find

53:44

out that you know one of the communists , like one

53:47

of the people , one of the scientists in his group

53:49

, was a communist and gave it to the Russians

53:51

. So you know it's

53:54

. It's kind of like it's a cautionary

53:56

tale . That's how I just came out . It's

53:58

a cautionary tale of you

54:01

know you may come up with

54:03

the next greatest

54:06

idea , but that's

54:09

all you're going to have is an idea before the government

54:11

takes it and turns it into something

54:13

that you never wanted to . You

54:15

know , I was just . They were creating the bomb

54:17

just to win the war . Now they're creating

54:19

bombs to tickle the world or

54:22

destroy the planet . So

54:24

that was my feeling at

54:26

the end of the movie , like it was just a

54:28

lot of different emotions , but it was

54:30

just very much . I

54:33

feel bad for Oppenheimer . I feel

54:35

, you know , I feel like he made his own bed

54:37

and you

54:40

know it's a cautionary tale for the future . I

54:42

mean , how do you not come out in front of a movie and not think about

54:44

, like , what the next 10

54:47

to 15 years could be like ? You know , because the

54:50

society is rapidly changing . Every

54:52

second , every minute , there's always

54:55

something . The next , what's the next

54:57

thing ? You know we talk about AI

54:59

in our last you know last couple

55:02

episodes . Like I

55:04

was literally thinking like is AI the new

55:06

thing ? Like

55:08

, is this the sky

55:10

? Is AI going to turn the Skynet

55:13

and turn into pretty much

55:15

industrialization , as

55:17

we know , and being all robotic

55:19

or all you know are

55:22

, am I going to be able to do that ? Am I going to be able

55:24

to have a job ?

55:25

Right , yeah , it's just one of those things .

55:27

Yeah , yeah , it's just everything you know , and

55:30

I think that at that time with

55:32

Oppenheimer , it was just that war was

55:34

everything to the world , like that was just . That

55:37

was the mindset , you know . That's

55:39

why when , like , you see all these scenes

55:42

of all these Americans being happy and stuff

55:44

like that , it's , it's patriotic

55:47

, but it's also just like a relief

55:49

. I saw it as like a relief , like , thank

55:51

God , we won , we can bring our troops

55:53

home . All that you

55:56

know , it's not even the you

55:58

know America's better . It's

56:01

like , hopefully that's how I'm interpreting

56:03

that was a side relief , especially for those

56:06

people in . You know , in

56:08

was it Los Alamos

56:10

. That was the site , right , los .

56:12

Alamos .

56:12

Yeah , yeah , yeah , Mexico yeah

56:14

, yeah , yeah , yeah , because they I

56:16

mean they could have been the front lines . You know they

56:18

were . They were teased in some of these , some

56:21

of these scientists could have got drafted

56:23

to the war . So it

56:25

was almost like I have to do

56:28

my part in Los Alamos or I might get sent to

56:30

the front line , you know . So

56:34

yeah , that's just like my whole totality of

56:36

like the ending and

56:38

all that . It was just just

56:40

sad . It was sad and it's also

56:42

very makes

56:45

you think a lot Like that's what all Nolan

56:47

movies , they you think

56:49

a different way , you know . And

56:53

did he do ? Did he do Dunkirk ?

56:56

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , that

56:59

was , that was great .

57:01

Yeah , yeah , that was a good movie .

57:03

His loud , yeah , it

57:06

was like that's the one where Harry Styles

57:08

he played like a total douche , right yeah

57:11

.

57:11

Okay , yeah , yeah .

57:13

Now remember I think I'm getting mixed up with that that 1941

57:16

movie . Oh , yeah , yeah yeah

57:18

, okay , so yeah , the

57:20

no , the the one where it was

57:22

like a World War I movie .

57:26

Yeah , like a one with .

57:27

Sam Mendes .

57:28

Yeah , there you go . So yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .

57:30

So , yeah , I it's okay . So yeah , dunkirk

57:32

, I remember Dunkirk . No , it was a good

57:34

movie . That was good , though , for real yeah

57:36

.

57:36

Yeah , yeah , yeah . I mean I

57:38

wouldn't mind Nolan doing more of these

57:40

several moments in history

57:43

and putting his spin on it . I mean

57:45

, you know he's kind of two for two on

57:47

that .

57:47

But you don't like Tenant , just

57:49

always want to see what y'all thought of it . I

57:52

think I have to watch it again . To be honest , this

57:54

is me . I didn't

57:57

.

57:57

I didn't hate it .

57:57

I didn't . I didn't hate it , I thought it was good . I'm

57:59

gonna watch it again because I feel like I I miss

58:02

some things .

58:04

I don't know how do you feel like it ?

58:07

Honestly , I felt

58:09

that movie was like

58:12

Nolan's Avengers Endgame

58:14

.

58:15

Really .

58:16

Okay , where it was like all

58:18

the movies that he's made , he

58:20

has put all into this one movie

58:23

, yeah , yeah . Where

58:25

it's just like oh , you know that whole like

58:27

reverse thingy , that's like inception , like

58:29

the whole , like Him

58:32

and Neil the team . Yeah

58:35

, yeah , just interstellar . Yeah

58:37

, I think I watched it again . I

58:40

did like it . Just , I feel like there's some things I didn't

58:42

pick up on . I only saw it once , though . It's

58:47

like the payoff is

58:50

really good . Yeah . Where

58:52

it's just like oh , oh , I didn't know that

58:54

, that's cool , yeah .

58:56

Yeah , I feel like that was

58:58

his most ambitious movie

59:01

.

59:01

Yeah , that's what it probably was .

59:04

It's one of those things where it takes , it

59:07

takes inception and like

59:10

just the frameworks of those ideas , right

59:12

, time Reverse

59:15

, like all that stuff , and just like put on

59:17

steroids and just like , yeah , yeah , making

59:20

action movie , like the whole

59:22

, like some of the scenes in Tenet , is so

59:25

crazy , like because you're your

59:27

mind you really

59:29

have to find that it's going to reverse All

59:32

these fight scenes is

59:34

like they're jumping backwards

59:36

.

59:36

They make reverse .

59:39

And I'm like yeah , so

59:41

holy I feel like Tenet is one of those things

59:43

where you have to watch it multiple times .

59:45

Yeah .

59:46

Not just like just to get the movie , but also just to kind

59:48

of like just be like

59:51

dude , this guy

59:53

, this , this filmmaker made a damn

59:55

movie in reverse .

59:57

Yeah , yeah .

59:59

Like his whole thing was . It

1:00:02

was insane . I mean it's not , it's

1:00:04

not my favorite , no , movie yeah . But

1:00:07

it's one of those things where it's just like if I

1:00:09

feel , if I feel

1:00:12

up like a random day , I'll be like dude . I'm gonna watch

1:00:14

Tenet . I'm gonna put myself through the freaking ringer

1:00:16

. Like I want to figure this out

1:00:18

. It's almost like a one of those was

1:00:22

it Rubik's .

1:00:23

Cube . Yeah , rubik's Cube .

1:00:27

You know , you just try to get to the end

1:00:29

.

1:00:30

But I'd like , yeah , I do . I

1:00:32

think the one thing that's strong with Nolan is that his casting

1:00:36

and the use of the actress he casts

1:00:38

because I don't know man

1:00:40

, I what's his name ? Robert

1:00:42

Pattison was really good in the movie .

1:00:44

That freaking John .

1:00:45

David Washington , former running back

1:00:47

. I

1:00:50

thought he was good too . Like , if this is , I'll

1:00:52

wait for him to get his due as an actor

1:00:54

, dc's due for some awards

1:00:56

. To be honest , yeah , yeah , like

1:01:00

I left that movie felting , like I

1:01:03

felt inverted . I

1:01:05

was like like , when I left out the movie I was like

1:01:07

yo , am I inverted right now

1:01:09

? I don't know .

1:01:11

But , it was walking backwards to the

1:01:13

bathroom .

1:01:13

I know I'm like like

1:01:15

and and he just I

1:01:18

don't know , that movie was like

1:01:20

literal , like movie magic

1:01:23

. It's just like , oh yeah , we're going to do

1:01:25

that whole scene again , that whole

1:01:27

airplane scene , I know , dude

1:01:29

, in reverse , so so

1:01:31

. So like , after I watched the

1:01:33

movie I was just kind of like doing my research

1:01:36

and stuff and apparently the

1:01:38

boy is

1:01:40

is , is

1:01:43

Robert , is Robert's

1:01:45

character

1:01:49

, but older , like

1:01:52

like the boy who , who

1:01:55

is the son

1:01:57

of the wife

1:01:59

? Yeah , that's Robert in

1:02:02

the past . And just kind of like this weird

1:02:04

thing where it's just like , oh so , he

1:02:06

knew him already . I need to watch it again

1:02:08

now . Yeah , like like watch

1:02:11

it knowing that . And you're like what

1:02:13

? Yeah

1:02:16

, chris is a good filmmaker . I know

1:02:18

a lot of people keep saying he's overrated then

1:02:20

or he's overrated then he does something

1:02:22

like this , or he does something like Oppenheimer

1:02:24

. Then you're like , damn , and what else he's got . I

1:02:27

know , I mean , I know

1:02:29

, I know him .

1:02:30

I know him . Film is like an event , because

1:02:33

he's like one of the last big

1:02:36

filmmakers that I'll go watch a movie

1:02:38

. I don't think there's a filmmaker

1:02:40

that I can

1:02:43

put up top of my head . I'm like I need to

1:02:45

watch what he's doing next . Like

1:02:47

I don't know if I would say the Russo

1:02:49

Brothers , but like they kind

1:02:51

of are extinction or extraction

1:02:54

to extraction , they kind of they kind

1:02:56

of put their different . I

1:02:58

don't know , they have their one

1:03:01

, they have their style

1:03:03

right . But Nolan kind of

1:03:05

like he does different

1:03:08

things , like he'll just test

1:03:11

the boundaries of right now what

1:03:13

he can think of , you know , and he's

1:03:16

a great writer . He's a great writer in regards to

1:03:18

storytelling and all that . But

1:03:21

yeah , like shoot , I don't

1:03:24

think there's any other filmmakers

1:03:26

that can think of that . I'm like I need to watch

1:03:29

this movie , I think he's

1:03:31

.

1:03:31

He's , in my opinion , like the last , not

1:03:34

to say true , but he's the last filmmaker that's

1:03:36

big and huge , like that , who's not

1:03:39

doing too many visual effects . Because when I watch Oppenheimer

1:03:41

I kind of was excited that there was a

1:03:44

lot of it . It kind of made me feel more

1:03:46

, more , more

1:03:48

, more thrilled by the movie

1:03:51

, like I just felt like I was more tuned

1:03:53

in . I don't know Like

1:03:55

I love Marvel movies , but all the CGI

1:03:58

man , it's like I'm getting numb to it where it's just like

1:04:00

, like you were saying earlier , scott , when

1:04:02

we were talking about a secret invasion , you're

1:04:04

just like the

1:04:06

ending fight scene which is up here we go typical

1:04:09

Marvel ending fight scene CGI . Like

1:04:12

I don't know when Nolan did Oppenheimer

1:04:14

, it just was really nice is just watch

1:04:16

this film and see how it's done

1:04:18

and not use visual

1:04:20

effects and still tell a great story

1:04:22

, like now we see in Hollywood we

1:04:24

need to rely on visual effects to make the movie good . Like

1:04:27

just make the writing good , shoot

1:04:29

it good and then it'll be good .

1:04:33

Yeah , yeah , I

1:04:35

mean he shoots in that IMAX 70

1:04:37

film too . Yeah

1:04:39

, 70 film . And after

1:04:42

watching that movie I was like damn it , why is there not

1:04:44

an IMAX 70 screen

1:04:47

near us ? Like they're

1:04:49

all , they're all like it West Coast . Like far West

1:04:51

Coast , far East Coast

1:04:54

.

1:04:55

World Golf World Golf .

1:04:57

Is that one still ?

1:04:58

Is that one still the 71 ?

1:04:59

No , no , I think that one's gone . They changed it . Oh no , because

1:05:03

it used to be like a double Decker theater man

1:05:05

. Yeah , I think I think

1:05:08

that was gone . I looked up

1:05:10

, I looked at the , the

1:05:12

, the , what you know what IMAX screens

1:05:15

are available to watch Oppenheimer in that

1:05:17

, in that version , and I think the closest

1:05:19

one is like in , I

1:05:21

think it's like near Miami or something

1:05:24

like that . It's like it's in a random

1:05:26

city in Florida or something like that

1:05:28

. But yeah , like I

1:05:32

don't know . Okay , so what ? Okay , so

1:05:35

where's Oppenheimer ranked in the

1:05:37

Nolan ? Oh , you know I know it's a

1:05:39

tough to think about , but just off the top of your

1:05:42

head , where does this rank ? It's

1:05:44

just top three , just top

1:05:46

five .

1:05:49

I want to say three for me . Three

1:05:51

for me , it's not . It's not the best Nolan movie

1:05:54

Probably I'll

1:05:56

probably put it number three I put for me

1:05:58

. I'll put Dark Knight at one . I'll

1:06:01

put Oppenheimer three and two . I

1:06:03

might either flip in between inception

1:06:06

and here's , like one that some people don't talk about

1:06:08

a lot , but I really liked it because it was a clever

1:06:11

twist the prestige .

1:06:14

I enjoyed that .

1:06:15

I think that's a very underrated Nolan movie

1:06:17

Christian Bale , hugh

1:06:19

Jackman I'm

1:06:21

like flipping between inception and that for

1:06:23

number two , but I'll put Oppenheimer three . To be honest

1:06:25

, that's

1:06:27

how I feel about it , yeah .

1:06:31

I mean that's you

1:06:33

know the the boss . I

1:06:36

said a lot of great movies . I'm like no flipping

1:06:38

in my head , man .

1:06:41

It was hard for me . It's not number one or number

1:06:43

two , for sure . Nolan , like Oppenheimer , is not

1:06:45

one and two for me for his movies .

1:06:47

No , no , like that's

1:06:49

. I think he's like top , I

1:06:51

think it's a top five movie

1:06:54

. Maybe if I watch it again I'll

1:06:57

be like oh , shoot man , it's really good

1:06:59

. But but like

1:07:01

I don't know , like for me it's dark

1:07:03

night , oh I understand .

1:07:05

I said one , two shoot Sorry .

1:07:07

Yeah , I

1:07:09

even I . One of my favorite

1:07:11

Nolan movies is one of his first movies , Memento

1:07:14

, that's a good one .

1:07:15

I forgot about it . That was a great movie

1:07:17

, damn .

1:07:18

Yeah , I'm

1:07:20

a Memento . And

1:07:22

then , oh man , I

1:07:24

really like dude

1:07:28

. I really like dark night return

1:07:30

, dark night rises . Oh yeah , dinner rises Like

1:07:32

that was good . Oppenheimer

1:07:36

is like top five for me , because

1:07:39

I man , I like inception . Inception

1:07:43

might be like four and

1:07:45

then I'll put oppie , oppie , f5

1:07:47

. But like seminal

1:07:50

works , like like movies

1:07:52

, all like probably go back to like am

1:07:56

I , can I really sit down and watch Oppenheimer

1:07:58

?

1:07:58

three hours again , right

1:08:00

yeah .

1:08:02

Like I can sit back and watch dark night . When

1:08:04

dark night comes on , it's like whether

1:08:07

I'm not doing anything right now . I need to have

1:08:09

this . I need to have it on the screen

1:08:12

. I don't know

1:08:14

who's who's

1:08:16

his superhero stuff . Man , the

1:08:18

dark night trilogy is man

1:08:21

, I don't know . It's tough , it's

1:08:24

tough for me to to like not think

1:08:27

of that as , like you know

1:08:29

, because , like he didn't have

1:08:31

CGI , Like he was literally

1:08:34

doing this , just

1:08:36

like real world stuff , like

1:08:38

you know , and

1:08:41

to make it , you know

1:08:43

, to make those movies

1:08:45

at

1:08:48

the time when he would think

1:08:50

he made those movies now , like

1:08:53

back then , compared to like , if he made

1:08:55

it , like maybe a couple of years afterwards

1:08:58

, like you know , maybe in like

1:09:00

the early 2010s and stuff , you

1:09:03

know , that would , I don't know , I

1:09:05

don't know what would happen . There have been , like

1:09:07

Nolan , you have to use some CGI . Like we

1:09:09

can't . We can't , you know , have

1:09:13

all this stuff without . No , you know , we

1:09:15

, we need us to be big and grand Like

1:09:18

bro , it's just city of Gotham and yeah

1:09:20

. I do , I know , I know in the dark night like

1:09:23

.

1:09:23

The one scene that was really good to

1:09:25

me was when it's like it's . It's

1:09:27

like a cinema history , like no one's ever flipped

1:09:29

the semi truck with its trailer like 180

1:09:32

flip . Yeah , yeah , yeah yeah man , he

1:09:37

didn't even follow that .

1:09:38

Like I can do that . I

1:09:40

can do that Fast and furious .

1:09:42

And we'll CGI it though , vin , don't worry , buddy

1:09:44

All right cool At least . I did it , though

1:09:46

I still did . What about you

1:09:50

, scott ? What's your like ? Okay , what's top , what's top ? We'll

1:09:53

do top five for you , scott . What's top five ?

1:09:55

Yeah , no , no movies .

1:09:58

So no movies . One is

1:10:00

Memento , okay

1:10:02

. Interstellar Three , inception

1:10:05

Gosh

1:10:08

, I mean I'm For

1:10:12

the Tark

1:10:16

night , and

1:10:18

five that

1:10:22

Harry Styles movie Dunkirk .

1:10:24

Dunkirk yes .

1:10:25

Yes , yes , like

1:10:28

the , the like I

1:10:30

think that's a better history

1:10:33

movie than Oppenheimer . It's

1:10:35

like the way that they have it , the

1:10:38

like that war

1:10:41

movie is shot is like so it's

1:10:43

like Lancy air , yeah

1:10:45

, right , right . And

1:10:48

it's just like like you feel . You feel like you're in

1:10:50

like a museum , like

1:10:52

watching , like a

1:10:56

history movie , yeah , and

1:10:58

it's like like I don't know . I

1:11:00

think Oppenheimer is is honestly

1:11:03

like on the bottom it's

1:11:06

made .

1:11:07

I'm just kidding , it's just messing

1:11:09

with you .

1:11:10

It's hard because , like , all

1:11:13

these movies are like hits Right

1:11:16

, yeah , yeah . So it's like yeah , that's true , putting

1:11:18

it's like yeah , putting off the camera in

1:11:20

the bottom is like it's

1:11:23

like you're ranking like these like near

1:11:25

perfect movies and it's just like , yeah

1:11:27

, I got pro on the bottom because I like Memento

1:11:30

and Interstellar

1:11:32

and inception

1:11:34

. I think I like don't cook a lot better , though

1:11:36

I'm just like man because

1:11:39

it was a good battle movie because it's set

1:11:41

. Yes , but , and like Dukila

1:11:43

Murphy was in the movie too , I forgot about it . Yeah , yeah

1:11:45

, yeah , he is like man like

1:11:47

that movie was really good

1:11:49

, where I was just like that

1:11:53

moment where the plane was just kind of like

1:11:55

flying and it's

1:11:57

just like , oh , that's a real plane

1:11:59

, just kind of like falling

1:12:01

in the sky .

1:12:02

And it was .

1:12:03

Tom Hardy the pilot . Right , he was the pilot

1:12:05

.

1:12:05

Yeah , yeah , I need to watch that . Yeah , yeah .

1:12:08

It was good . Yeah , I was like I

1:12:10

think about like his history in movies , which is

1:12:12

only those two . Yeah

1:12:15

, and I was like I think like

1:12:18

that movie is better than opera

1:12:20

. I think if I were to , I

1:12:23

think I would . In my opinion , I feel like

1:12:25

opera

1:12:27

hammers a better film , but

1:12:30

I like Dunkirk better because I like action

1:12:32

more .

1:12:33

Yes , I think that's how I feel about it . For me , it's

1:12:35

very .

1:12:36

Yeah , it's . Yeah , it was . It

1:12:38

was really good , it was just loud . Yeah , I was just like

1:12:40

whoa man , it's OK , here we go and

1:12:43

I know yeah .

1:12:45

Yeah , we're just , we're picking A plus

1:12:47

is like which ? A plus is better than right .

1:12:49

You know it's hard .

1:12:50

It's hard Like it's

1:12:53

no longer all nine out of 10s dude . Yeah

1:12:56

, yeah , yeah . Like the filmography

1:12:58

is like some

1:13:00

of the best I've you know , ever

1:13:04

since I started watching movies , and like paying

1:13:06

attention to them like his movies was just been

1:13:08

. You know , must see . Like

1:13:11

you know , more hate on interstellar

1:13:13

man .

1:13:14

I'm reading a lot of stuff and people

1:13:17

are hate , no , you know , you know what it is

1:13:19

. I just read him what people are saying about

1:13:21

it . I think it's because they want something super

1:13:23

science behind , behind

1:13:26

the reason . Oh , like love

1:13:28

yeah .

1:13:29

People .

1:13:29

I think that's the only reason why people want people

1:13:31

, want something with super science , and

1:13:33

like , in my head , I'm like this , this

1:13:36

. When I saw it and I was like

1:13:38

, oh , this is a nice like rap for like a movie . You

1:13:40

know , a good sentiment . Because

1:13:43

at the end it hits you when

1:13:45

, like , the family doesn't want him anymore

1:13:47

because he's , they've aged , they moved on

1:13:49

time with yeah , yeah , so it's like

1:13:51

it's love . And then , oh , it ends in dread

1:13:53

still . Yeah , it just ends like day

1:13:55

man . This , like this workaholic dad

1:13:57

is just , yeah , he's still , he's

1:14:00

still doing the work and picking his work over

1:14:02

his family . Yeah , adios . And

1:14:04

that was . That was a rough ending too . I mean , it was

1:14:06

a good , it was a good storytelling , but it's just rough ending

1:14:08

where his , his daughter , is like , get that

1:14:11

. All the family like , yeah , we love you . All

1:14:13

right , man , get out of here , makana . Hey , get out

1:14:15

of here , we're done . You've

1:14:17

left us some . But I

1:14:19

just like yeah , that

1:14:22

movie , just I , I , I feel

1:14:24

like it gets a lot of hate , but the

1:14:26

moments in that movie are just so legendary

1:14:28

. It's just like . Yeah

1:14:31

, like I don't know , I might

1:14:33

change my top five , I might put that in number three . It's

1:14:37

like you're . Like you're saying , steve , it's hard man

1:14:39

, it's hard man Is .

1:14:41

I was just thinking when we while

1:14:44

you just talk , is dark night rises , the

1:14:46

ending for that , the happiest Nolan

1:14:48

ending , I think so , I

1:14:51

think , so , I think so . Wayne

1:14:53

just sees Alfred like the head

1:14:55

, man like man .

1:14:56

I'm here , he's

1:14:58

with a sit in a cow Like

1:15:00

they're having a life together .

1:15:01

It's like yeah

1:15:04

, I think that's the happiest ending . Everything

1:15:07

else has been like well , kind

1:15:10

of people are dead , because the way it's like oh , I'm in a

1:15:12

dream .

1:15:14

And I think Nolan , he

1:15:16

has specific vision of how it ended , but

1:15:18

he said he wanted purposefully to

1:15:21

be left like that . So like the audience can

1:15:23

come to a conclusion , I sometimes don't

1:15:25

like that , to be honest . Yeah

1:15:27

, I sometimes don't . Uh-huh , yeah

1:15:29

, I was like am I in a dream

1:15:31

? Is he true , or is he really

1:15:33

with his family ? I'm just going to watch it over again

1:15:35

and just see if I can find any clues .

1:15:38

Yeah .

1:15:39

Yeah .

1:15:40

Yeah Well , yeah , man

1:15:42

, this is , I mean , oppenheimer

1:15:44

man one of the movies of the year . You know

1:15:47

, just

1:15:49

just just a fantastic film . You

1:15:51

know , I would definitely

1:15:53

highly recommend watching it . Um

1:15:55

, if you're like , especially if

1:15:57

you're into history , like you know , this is one of the

1:15:59

one of the . You know one of the

1:16:01

people that really , you know , as

1:16:03

time goes on

1:16:06

, you really don't really know much about , you

1:16:08

only hear it in , you only hear it

1:16:10

through , you know , through school

1:16:12

and through , if you really want to learn more about certain times

1:16:15

, you really have to dig . And

1:16:18

for Nolan to kind of do that movie and just

1:16:20

tell his story , even though you know

1:16:24

it's , it's the bomb , is all

1:16:26

that , but it's also the character that he flushed

1:16:28

out and you know , uh

1:16:30

, and he kind

1:16:32

of put it back to the forefront

1:16:34

, you know . So so

1:16:37

, yeah , uh , I guess you

1:16:39

have any guys have any final thoughts or anything like

1:16:41

that .

1:16:42

Um , uh , before

1:16:44

we wrap this up , Just

1:16:46

a good movie , but just

1:16:48

the feeling is not what you

1:16:50

want , but it's still a good movie though . Yeah

1:16:53

, oh

1:16:57

, uh uh , nolan's Oppenheimer

1:16:59

is like Fincher's

1:17:02

the social media .

1:17:04

So watch here , let's go .

1:17:07

Watch the social network and

1:17:10

then you watch Oppenheimer and you're like

1:17:12

these movies are very

1:17:15

same .

1:17:16

They're very similar Very same .

1:17:18

Like you feel you

1:17:21

like , see Oppenheimer . But

1:17:24

then it's like I don't want to put Oppenheimer

1:17:27

and Mark Zuckerberg in the same like playing

1:17:29

field . One's like . One's

1:17:31

a possible

1:17:33

lizard person , the other one is a scientist

1:17:36

. Yeah , basically , you know and

1:17:39

and , um , but the

1:17:42

like , the style of that

1:17:44

movie of the

1:17:46

social network is like

1:17:48

the style of Oppenheimer

1:17:50

. So if you like the social network

1:17:53

, watch Oppenheimer .

1:17:55

Well , yeah , if you want to

1:17:57

be , uh , if you want the chain reaction

1:17:59

and for social , for the internet , that's

1:18:02

the movie you want .

1:18:04

And uh , let's see what else . Emily

1:18:08

Blunt might win an Oscar

1:18:11

for her performance , because she was really

1:18:13

good . Yeah

1:18:15

, that was . She had some strong performances

1:18:17

. She wasn't on screen as much , but when she

1:18:19

did she delivered .

1:18:21

Yes .

1:18:22

Yeah .

1:18:24

What about you ? All right ?

1:18:26

Um , you find all thoughts on , like Oppenheimer , what would

1:18:28

you , what do you think , going out of the movie talking

1:18:31

it with us Like how do you feel now ?

1:18:34

I mean it's it's good to have

1:18:36

this conversation . You know it's a , it's

1:18:38

a movie that you really want to talk to somebody

1:18:40

about , just because you want to

1:18:42

just kind of hear their thoughts , because , uh , uh

1:18:46

, this movie is very much in

1:18:49

the weeds of like history

1:18:51

, right , and you kind of want to

1:18:53

, you know , hear

1:18:55

other people's perspective just to see . Not

1:18:58

, not not that it matches

1:19:00

yours , but it's just like it's just to heal

1:19:03

back the layers , cause

1:19:05

there's a lot of information in that movie

1:19:07

and it's just like people sometimes

1:19:09

interpreted differently . Yeah , it's

1:19:12

one of those ever evolving movies that you'll

1:19:14

be like . You know , again

1:19:16

, it's about Oppenheimer , it's about

1:19:19

the making of this atomic bomb that

1:19:21

you know that , uh , that

1:19:23

ended the war , but it's

1:19:25

everything surrounding that , the government involved

1:19:28

, man , you know pettiness of

1:19:30

senators , you know just

1:19:33

the communists like that , the

1:19:35

communist party rising . There's

1:19:37

just a lot of different factors that you

1:19:40

know Nolan touched on and he gave enough

1:19:42

time . I feel like he gave enough time to everything

1:19:44

, um , and

1:19:47

you know he put in this movie . So

1:19:49

, yeah , I'm just glad to have this conversation

1:19:51

because , you know , it's just one of

1:19:53

those things where , if I watch it again

1:19:56

, I feel like I'm going to have the same

1:19:58

type of thing going on , where I'm like I gotta talk about

1:20:00

it Cause there might be something new that

1:20:02

I didn't , I didn't catch , so yeah , All

1:20:05

right , y'all well

1:20:08

, watch Barbie watch Barbie .

1:20:09

Y'all Watch Barbie Barbie's better than Oppenheimer

1:20:12

. Come on , let's go

1:20:14

. I'm saying it .

1:20:18

We just talked two hours

1:20:21

about . I was about to say

1:20:23

I was like you trying to , trying to click bait

1:20:25

or trying to do something .

1:20:27

You're ready for the Barbie review ? The barb

1:20:29

go Spoil the movie for

1:20:31

me .

1:20:34

Uh , women have it hard .

1:20:36

Women have it hard .

1:20:37

No , no , no , no , everybody , everybody wins .

1:20:40

Everyone wins . Everybody wins , yes

1:20:42

, yes , All

1:20:44

right , y'all .

1:20:45

Well , we're going to end it off there . Thank

1:20:47

you , guys , for listening and

1:20:49

we will see y'all next time

1:20:52

. Talk to y'all later . Peace

1:20:54

, peace , peace

1:21:02

.