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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and
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welcome to Stephane. Never told your protection of I Heart Radio.
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Welcome everyone to today. He's
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addition of women around the world.
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I don't know, because it's gonna change every time.
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You know it is because I'm not gonna remember what
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I said before. But
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I'm sure you know there's no way to go back, and
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I will never I will never go back. Only
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four. But today we are
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talking about the first woman to be appointed
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judge to the High Court of Botswana, Unity
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Dow. Unity Dow is no changer
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to paving the way for many women in Southern Africa.
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She is known as the humans rights and women's right activists
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and has been a prominent politician in Botswana
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for many years. Unity I was born
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in a small village near Gabra run A, Botswana,
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on April ninety nine. Though
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her parents were not highly educated, her father
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was a very big proponent and furthering the children's
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education and encouraging his children to
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do the same right as In fact, he and
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another teacher were a big influence
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on her continuing her education in schooling
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and she went on to study law at the University
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of Botswana and Swaziland, becoming the only
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woman studying law at that time, and
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then went on to the University of Edinburgh in
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Scotland to continue her education
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and after obtaining her law degree, she worked as a lawyer
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at a human rights organization in her home village at Machudi.
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In nineteen ninety one, she helped open a private
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primary school, Bayo Bob School in Gabarone,
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and that school is still currently operating. She
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then continued on working as a
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colonel prosecutor defense attorney, but she
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soon embarked on another case in
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which she was the plaintiff herself. She
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had married an American citizen, Peter Dow,
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and found that under the citizenship law,
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her children are not considered citizens of Botswana
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due to their father's lineage, because
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under the law any child could not be sidered
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a citizen unless their father was
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a citizen, and this included children
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who were born quote out of wedlock.
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She went through a five year legal journey to change
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this not only for herself but for all the women
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in Botswana. She stated during
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her trial quote, Suddenly I was being unpatriotic
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by bringing this case. I was being uncultural.
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I was influenced by my foreign training.
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I was not behaving like a normal nice
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wife. She talked about how she often
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would just cry over this journey trying
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to make this change because she just could not understand
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how the system would
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go after women in such a way when they
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are the matriarch and should be able
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to have their children to be a part of
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this citizenship and lineage as well. It was we were
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actually a really interesting case um and she
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was able to win the case, changing the law
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and breaking down the patriarchal system in which
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laws were formed and how to bring equal rights
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for the Massawana women as well as the men.
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And she talked about how not only
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was this law changed, but they actually hired
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her and many other people to research the
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level of misogyny in their laws and
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in their constitution and whether it was unconstitutional
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or not. So it was really really interesting to see the
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effect she had. But she also was an advocate
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for bringing awareness of the A'S and HIV epidemic
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in Southern Africa, and she created
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the A's Action Trust and with Max
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XX, wrote the book called Saturday Is
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for Funerals, which details the two
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stories and trauma of different families
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affected by the disease and then also
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how the community leaders, scientists, educators
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and medical professionals responded to
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help stop the epidemic. And by the way.
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She is a novelist with many books under
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her belt, most of which speaking to the issues of ginger
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quality or inequality, and issues
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and poverty within her country. She also
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started the Women in Law in Southern Africa
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w l s A, which is now spread through seven
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countries Botswana, Lusu, to
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Malawi, Mozambique, Swaziland,
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Zambia and Zimbabwe. The
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w l s A is a non governmental
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organization that conducts research for women's
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human rights. As they say they
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quote aimed to help build a world with fear
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asymmetries, where no one is excluded on
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the grounds of sex, race, ethnicity or region,
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and where each individual can enjoy her his
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rights as a citizen and as
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a High Court justice now has been instrumental
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in fighting for the rights of the citizens. She is
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well known for her ruling in one of the longest
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and one of the most expensive cases in Botswana,
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the roy Sasana and others versus the
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Government of Botswana or the
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Central Collegoty Gang Reserve or
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c kg R, which led to the sand Or
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Bostwara people to be able to return to their ancestral
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lands after the government had sought to forcibly
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removed them. She stated the case was quote
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ultimately about people demanding dignity
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and respect. It is a people saying, in essence,
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our way of life may be different, but it is
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worthy of respect. We may be changing
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and getting closer to your way of life, but
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give us a chance to decide what we want to carry
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with us into the future, which I thought
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was a really powerful statement. And in
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regards to what helps her make her ruling,
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she stated, quote, it all comes to hard facts
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before the court, is a law that applies at
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the end of it all, it is the facts properly
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brought before me that count. And as a friend
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always says you're a slave to the Constitution,
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you are no slave demand. She served
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as the High Court judge for eleven years, moving
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on to starting her first firm
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giving opportunities for women practicing law. DW.
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Malakayla Attorneys,
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Sorry if I mispronounced that. She
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also worked with the lgbt Q organization
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l E G A b I b O during
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this time to be able to register
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as an organization which would allow for it
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to be granted funds, which at
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one point was seen as unconstitutional,
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but Dow worked to sue the government gaining
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grounds for lgbt Q plus rights.
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So in fourteen that was nominated
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as a special Elected Member of Parliament
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or they're also called simple as e MP
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and confirmed and appointed as
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Assistant Minister of Education. Then was appointed
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by President Comma as Minister of Education
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and Skills Development. In twenty eighteen, under
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a new administration, she was appointed as
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Minister of infrastruct Sure in Housing
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Development or later known as Minister of Internal
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Affairs and Cooperation, and reconfirmed
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in twenty nineteen. However, in twenty
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twenty she has since announced her retirement.
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But it is clear she has had a long lasting
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impact in our country where she still resides,
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receiving awards like Legion of Honor
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William Brennan, Human Rights Award from Rutgers
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and the Vanguard Women Leadership Award. It's
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obvious she has left her mark as an advocate
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and a fighter and is known as a nonconformist
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who has opened up a pathway for women to continue
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to fight for justice and equality. Yeah,
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she was so fascinating for me to
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read about and just about how many things that
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she was able to do and pushed through
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and the forces is not her only cases that
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she did, but these are some of the bigger ones
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that really helped her stand out. And
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even her own case leading the way to have
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them revamp their laws and
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talk about what is sexist and what is
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misogynistic has been a big part, especially
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with her putting her own
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mental health on the line and trying to get this
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done for her children and how important it is to have
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our children be proud of being citizens
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of Botswana as well as the U. So
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it's really beautiful to see and it's amazing
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how hard she fought to get to this point.
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Yeah, and that's a theme we've seen in a
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lot of episodes around female First or
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that we're going to continue to see as we do this series
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of Women around the World is women
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who do put so much
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of themselves on the line to
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help create a better future, the future they want
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for younger generations that they want to see. And
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it's really inspiring and I'm glad we're getting to spotlight
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it in this series. I'm glad
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we're getting to talk about women who perhaps
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you had not heard of listeners, and
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I'm always a big proponent, you know me. I'm
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a language nerd, so I love the idea of like going
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through the Constitution and finding out like
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all the misogynistic language,
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right, I love it. So
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that brings us to the end of this installment
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of women around the world. If there are women that we should
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spotlight, that you want to suggest to us, uh,
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