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UFOs to psychic powers and

1:34

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the stuff they don't want you to know. A

1:44

production of iHeartRadio. Hello,

1:48

welcome back to

1:50

the show. My name

1:56

is Matt. They

2:00

call me Ben. We're joined as

2:02

always with our super producer Alexis

2:04

Codename.Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are

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you, you are here. That makes

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this the stuff they don't want

2:11

you to know. Long time

2:13

listeners. If you're listening to this the

2:15

evening comes out then you have made

2:17

it to Thursday. Congratulations

2:19

all around. We are going to

2:22

hear from our fellow conspiracy realists.

2:24

We're going to have a follow-up

2:26

on the beginning of a conversation

2:28

we had about fertility rates and

2:31

paying people who become parents.

2:34

We're going to learn about disruptions in the

2:36

Oregon trade, not the way you might think

2:39

and not the Oregon Trail. But

2:41

before we do any of that we thought

2:43

we'd dip our toes in with a delightful

2:45

piece of correspondence we got from an old

2:47

friend. Yes, indeed. I'm just going to

2:49

jump right into the email. This is a

2:51

lot of fun. Hey Ben,

2:54

the octopi sympathizer, Matt the dad

2:56

and Noel, the guy who refuses

2:58

to play control for some reason

3:00

even though he can put hours

3:02

into Skyrim. Okay, I see

3:04

you. It's your not so

3:07

British bank robber. Ben,

3:09

you pointed out that we have

3:11

heard from this individual before specifically

3:13

relating to a period

3:15

in their life as a professional bank

3:17

robber. Yes, it's great to

3:19

hear from you again. Yeah,

3:21

this is from Jace, by the way. Although

3:24

there's been some great heist and fake identity

3:26

stories lately that are right up my alley,

3:28

I'm actually writing in about your haunted places

3:30

and objects piece. My house is definitely haunted,

3:33

but not in a stereotypical way. My wife

3:35

got a puppy in the first year of

3:37

our marriage and that dog was consistently

3:39

by her side. Unfortunately

3:42

for us, that dog was a

3:44

super flatulator, a killer

3:46

of the SBD kind. For the

3:49

uninitiated out there, that means silent

3:51

but deadly. It

3:53

didn't matter if I was cooking dinner or trying to

3:55

relax on the couch and cuddle up to a movie,

3:57

this dog was there and dropping it like it was

3:59

a dog. was hot. So we would

4:01

constantly have to recoil in disgust at

4:03

the foul smell and fan it away

4:05

and say the dog's name aloud and

4:08

scolding. No, no, no, I wish we

4:10

had gotten the dog's name, but that's

4:12

okay. Here's where it gets crazy.

4:15

This dog passed away recently.

4:17

Sorry to hear that. But and

4:19

is not fully moved on. My

4:22

house is haunted by its presence. And

4:24

in the most loving way it knew

4:26

how in life it has continued in

4:29

death. My wife and I will be

4:31

in a room together when suddenly that

4:33

same putrid gas smell will appear out

4:36

of habit. We both start to berate the

4:38

dog, but it's no longer alive. So how

4:40

can that be possible? Creepy

4:42

right? The even creepier thing. It only

4:45

happens when my wife is in the room. The

4:47

dog continues to follow her around the house

4:50

in death as it did in life. Ghost

4:52

impression of its love or something sinister. Okay,

4:55

we're gonna get to that. I'm no ghost

4:57

hunter with a TV show. So I don't

4:59

have the answers. A lot of those ghost

5:01

hunters, the TV shows don't either. So don't

5:04

feel too bad. But I'll leave you with

5:06

that. It's Taco Tuesday. So I better get

5:08

started on making the beans. That's

5:11

Cheers. Jase PS. The dog also went

5:13

through a phase of pooping in my

5:15

house shoes. So if that

5:18

happens again, I'll be sure to give you

5:20

an update. PPS. I know

5:22

you are all dads. I didn't mean to leave

5:24

you guys out by singling Matt out as the

5:26

dad, then as a cat dad, Noel has a

5:28

daughter. But why can't he just

5:30

play that super fun game already? So

5:33

that's what comes to mind first for

5:35

him in the intro. I've got a

5:37

quick thing. And I know this is

5:39

maybe an unpopular opinion. But I do

5:41

not consider myself a

5:44

father to my pets. Fair. That

5:47

is that is your prerogative. How do you consider

5:49

yourself a father to I'm

5:51

sure this

5:55

may be a conversation for David. What

5:58

a cool letter, you know, we talk. We

6:01

talked about how memory

6:03

is so often encoded in our

6:05

olfactory sensations, right? So smell makes

6:08

sense that it could be, for

6:10

those who believe in an afterlife,

6:12

it could be a means

6:15

of communication. And of course, a

6:17

smell can instantly take you back

6:19

to a point earlier in life.

6:23

I kind of have a theory, a possible

6:25

theory. Oh, I've got one. I've got two. I

6:27

don't want to float it, but I don't want to mess

6:29

with anybody's relationship. You guys,

6:33

is it possible that

6:35

maybe Jason's partner

6:38

was the one farting the whole time? She was blaming

6:40

on the dog! Oh, tail as

6:42

old as time. Is it possible? I'm not going

6:44

to make these rampant accusations, but is it possible?

6:46

More like a partner, am I right? I like

6:48

this one. Let me give you mine and then

6:50

let's compare and contrast, because I think that's a

6:53

really good possibility. Or

6:55

it's Jason, he's just having a little fun with us. What

6:59

if it's a natural gas leak

7:01

somewhere in the home and it

7:03

was never the dog or a

7:05

human creating that sulfurous smell? Because

7:07

that's usually the smell I associate with

7:09

the term SBD. When

7:11

it's silent, you can't hear anything and it's

7:13

like that sulfury smell. Well, that

7:16

would be associated with a natural gas leak

7:18

because it's put in there on purpose for

7:20

you to smell it when it's leaking in

7:22

your home. If there's

7:24

a small leak somewhere or a

7:26

sewer backup problem, but

7:28

maybe a natural gas leak, I'm just going

7:30

to say, Jace, you should get your house

7:32

checked. Bro, I have to say, I was

7:35

Googling ghost smells. That

7:38

was my term. First of

7:40

all, the first thing that comes up

7:42

is the idea of phantom smells, which

7:44

is a thing that happens. It's sort

7:46

of olfactory hallucinations, right? People often who

7:49

are experiencing stroke or some

7:51

similar cognitive event in

7:53

that way. I

7:56

smell bitter almonds or I smell burnt toast

7:58

or burning hair or whatever. You

8:00

hear that a lot. Also

8:03

the smell of sulfur is

8:06

often associated with infernal spirits.

8:08

The smell of the pits,

8:10

you know, the burning smell

8:12

of the abyss, the ninth

8:14

circle of hell. So

8:16

there's a couple options there. Maybe

8:20

you guys are having a collective stroke on

8:22

the regular or you've got

8:24

a demon, in which case that's no

8:26

good. You need to get you to

8:29

a priest real quick to

8:31

exercise that house. Matt, I think you

8:33

might have nailed it on the head as

8:35

it were. One of the

8:37

things I found on Reddit was somebody

8:40

asking a question, typical smell during ghost

8:42

encounters? Has anyone experienced that? I'll just

8:44

give the excerpt that is appropriate here.

8:47

I've always seen in movies or heard of

8:49

the rotting smell when there's a haunting. Has

8:51

anyone experienced this? If yes, then what kind

8:53

of smell was it? I recently moved to

8:55

a place and since then I'm unable to

8:57

sleep because of unfounded fear. A few days

8:59

in a row when I woke up after

9:01

midnight, there was this weird smell in the

9:04

hallway which disappeared in the morning but came

9:06

back in the night. Nobody cleaned

9:08

the house or took out the trash. It

9:10

just disappeared. And the source of the smell

9:12

is definitely inside the house. Even if this

9:14

doesn't sound paranormal to you, I just want

9:17

to know if someone has experienced some smell

9:19

along with paranormal stuff and what

9:21

kind of smell. To

9:23

which somebody responded, I believe in

9:25

and have experienced plenty of paranormal phenomenon

9:28

in my time but this sounds disturbingly

9:30

similar to a slow gas leak. This

9:32

would also cause feelings of paranoia and

9:35

the unfounded fear you describe. For

9:37

your own safety and health, I would

9:40

strongly encourage you to test for gases

9:42

and or molds in your new house

9:44

before assuming this is supernatural. I

9:48

think that's sound advice. But

9:52

I do like the idea

9:54

of, to your point Ben, of sense memory.

9:56

We always talk about how in a lot

9:59

of ways what whatever your beliefs

10:01

in the afterlife might be or

10:03

in spiritual things, that

10:06

hauntings often can be attributed to

10:08

sort of lingering energy of some

10:10

kind or a place perhaps that

10:12

is experienced in an inordinate amount

10:14

of sad things. Farts. Oh,

10:17

and farts and or sad things. Farts

10:19

and farts. There

10:21

can be some kind of vibe. We

10:23

often talk of the show about the

10:25

idea of vibes and whether or not

10:27

you're someone who signs

10:30

up for more spiritual kind

10:32

of ways of thinking about things. I

10:34

think we've all caught a

10:36

vibe before. I think it's something that's pretty

10:38

common to the human condition. So

10:41

I think the idea of a

10:43

smell being associated with a vibe

10:45

and in some way kind of

10:47

permeating a space where something took

10:49

place, I could see that as

10:51

being a thing. But I am with you, Matt.

10:54

I think maybe, Jace, it's time to

10:57

call an inspector out there and make sure that you

10:59

don't have some sort of slow gas leak because that

11:01

can be very, very dangerous, not only because of igniting

11:04

a flame perhaps, but also

11:06

it can just poison you. There's also

11:09

one thing to investigate. First off, I

11:11

like that in both of these theories,

11:13

we're arguing that your dog is innocent,

11:16

whether alive or beyond the grave. Beans

11:18

didn't do it. Right. Justice

11:20

for beans. Hashtag it. There's this

11:23

other aspect though with a

11:25

gas leak, a low level

11:27

natural gas leak is

11:30

not going to be harmful immediately.

11:32

But if you have long-term exposure,

11:35

and if Matt, if your

11:37

theory is correct, then we'd

11:39

be talking about long-term exposure

11:41

to some regard, then there

11:43

would also be physical symptoms.

11:45

Jace, I'm interested to hear

11:48

whether you and your partner

11:50

have experienced nausea, dizziness, severe

11:52

headaches, or loss of focus.

11:54

Actually what I'm naming these, these sound like

11:56

conditions of being alive in 2024. That

12:00

would be one of your first

12:02

ways to really dig

12:04

into the theories that we're

12:07

proposing. Yeah, and apparently you can

12:09

check for this yourself. You can just get a CO2

12:11

detector and check for a potential gas leak without even

12:13

having it. I think you

12:15

can like rent one or something.

12:17

One side effect though of

12:20

CO2 poisoning is

12:22

an irrational fear or sensations

12:24

or feelings of dread and

12:26

paranoia that

12:28

can be very similar or along the

12:30

same lines of what one might experience

12:32

if they felt as though they were

12:34

being haunted. Mmm. A

12:37

fart in the dark and you're too

12:39

plain. No, no. Darling,

12:42

you give beans a bad thing. Yeah, I was about

12:44

to say, beans is not to blame. Possibly

12:47

though, it could be a ghost dog fart. Who

12:49

are we to say? We're just here to

12:51

suss out the possibilities, you know? That's what we're

12:53

here to do. But

12:56

often we do hear of people

12:58

associating a scent with a loved

13:00

one, perhaps through your grandmother's perfume

13:03

or the smell of your

13:06

father's cologne or something like that.

13:08

Because I think those sense memories

13:10

are so strong, I

13:13

think we can possibly hallucinate

13:15

those. If you really

13:17

associate a lost loved one with

13:19

that smell and then you're in a place where

13:21

they spend a lot of time or where you

13:23

have a lot of memories of that person, I

13:26

can't see why you might not be

13:28

experiencing some sort of smell hallucination. I

13:30

don't know. What do you guys think?

13:33

When my dog, Bodhi, passed, I

13:36

think it's exactly that. Like rationally,

13:38

it's just the smell of the

13:40

places where he was a lot in the

13:42

house. But man, I swear after he was

13:44

gone, I smelled like

13:46

that smell when he'd been

13:48

outside for quite a while. I like that a

13:51

dog got hot, got heated up, and

13:53

it kind of smells bad. But it

13:56

was a very specific smell and I would smell it as

13:58

soon as I walked into the house. the

14:00

threshold of the house. And you

14:02

know, my rational mind knows that's

14:04

just me walking into the place where he was a

14:07

lot. There's probably still dander and hair in there in

14:09

some corners that I haven't cleaned yet. But

14:11

in my mind, in the moment, it's like,

14:13

oh, is Buddy in here? You

14:16

know. Yeah, I'm with you guys. I

14:18

agree with you guys. Smell is

14:21

something that you can, I

14:23

hesitate to use the word hallucinate because

14:25

of the somewhat unfair connotations, but we

14:27

can do this right now. If you're

14:29

playing along at home, if

14:31

you're not driving or operating

14:34

heavy machinery, then close

14:36

your eyes. Think of someone

14:38

you love. They don't have to

14:40

be alive. They

14:43

don't have to be dead. But as you

14:45

think about them, don't just think of their

14:47

face. Think of the sound of their voice,

14:49

the texture of their hand or the fabrics

14:52

that they wore. And then I guarantee

14:54

you, your mind will

14:57

present to you another sensory stimuli, which

14:59

will be a smell. No

15:01

question about it. And I know I've told this story before.

15:03

I'll just tell the quick abbreviated version for anyone that hasn't

15:05

heard it and for anyone that has, I'll try to get

15:08

through it quick. Oh, and you can open your eyes

15:10

now. Okay. The experiment worked. I didn't

15:12

want to leave everybody hanging. No, no, I played

15:14

along. I played along and it absolutely worked. But

15:17

there was a time where I lost a friend and

15:19

a girl that I dated for a very long time,

15:22

just after she passed, we were sitting in

15:24

her car, my girlfriend at the time's car,

15:26

and it was a very foggy

15:29

kind of misty night. And on

15:31

the inside of her windshield, she blew

15:33

on it. And our friend's signature was

15:36

on the inside of the windshield. And

15:38

in the moment of that moment, in

15:41

both of our minds, we both were overcome with emotion.

15:43

And we were like, there's nothing that this could be

15:45

other than our deceased friend reaching

15:47

out from beyond the grave to communicate with

15:50

us. But the reality of it was that

15:52

this was, these were late teenage,

15:54

early twenties girls. They

15:57

were high school friends. And she,

15:59

you know, know, it's something that people do. You

16:01

write your name in the condensation

16:04

on the inside of a car windshield and

16:06

there are oils on your fingers that stick

16:08

around, you know, and this may well have

16:10

been done a week or more,

16:12

you know, prior to us experiencing

16:15

this. But in the moment, it couldn't be

16:17

anything but experience with

16:19

the supernatural. But then a little bit

16:21

later, thinking about it, we realized what

16:23

it actually was. Anyway,

16:26

Jayce, thanks so much for the story. It's

16:29

a nice twist on these

16:31

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there is a lyric in there, because I'm looking at them right now. It

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Whoops. All

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19:20

message from Skippy the

19:22

Prozac Health. Here we go. Good

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evening, gentlemen. This is... Well,

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you can call me Skippy the Prozac Health. I

19:31

am a longtime listener, first-time caller, and

19:34

I was listening to your recent listener mail episode where

19:37

you were talking about the ethics of

19:39

cloning specifically for

19:42

the purposes of generating one's

19:44

own organs. And

19:47

I would like to point out a article recently

19:50

in the MIT Technology Review. I'm

19:53

going to make this phone call. It's about a week old now, where

19:56

a company named Lygenesis is

19:58

doing injections in... to people's lymph

20:00

nodes using a

20:03

combination of novel therapies and skin

20:06

cells, stem cells, excuse

20:08

me, to grow a

20:10

new liver inside the patient.

20:13

Eventually they hope to be able

20:15

to do kidneys and pancreas as

20:17

well. And as a

20:20

type 2 diabetic, the

20:22

idea of growing a second functional

20:24

pancreas is a particular view

20:26

of interest to me. Anyway,

20:28

I love the show very much, and I

20:30

thank you for years and years of

20:33

thought-provoking episodes. Take care, guys. Wow,

20:36

wow, thank you so much, Skippy, the

20:38

Prozac Health. Very kind words there

20:40

at the end. Guys,

20:43

we had that conversation about cloning.

20:45

What do you think about even

20:48

the possibility before we get into

20:50

it of some kind of injection

20:52

into a human that could

20:54

cause you to grow new organs

20:57

with stem cells? I

20:59

think the science is on

21:02

the way. It's just out

21:04

of the current popular grasp.

21:07

I would argue, if not

21:09

necessarily this method of

21:11

application, the idea of

21:13

regrowing organs is

21:17

nigh inevitable at this point through

21:21

one method or another. We certainly

21:23

know of certain species of animals

21:25

that can regrow organs or regrow

21:27

appendages, like a tail and certain

21:30

kinds of lizards. There's

21:32

a David Cronenberg film called Crimes of the

21:35

Future that is sort of like this dystopian

21:37

world where performance art has

21:39

become the highest form of kind of

21:41

art and science in the whole

21:43

world, and there are these like the way. It's

21:47

just out of the current

21:49

popular grasp. I would

21:51

argue, if not

21:53

necessarily this method of

21:55

application, the idea of

21:57

regrowing organs. humans

22:00

is nigh inevitable at this

22:02

point through one

22:04

method or another. We certainly know

22:06

of certain species of animals that

22:09

can regrow organs or regrow

22:11

appendages, you know, like a tail among

22:13

certain kinds of lizards. There's

22:16

a David Cronenberg film called Crimes of

22:18

the Future that is sort of like

22:20

this dystopian world where performance art has

22:23

become the highest form of kind of

22:25

art and science in the

22:27

whole world and there are these

22:29

like elite class of performance artists

22:32

that through various means of internal

22:34

surgeries and injections actually grow

22:36

new organs and then have

22:39

them removed. They

22:41

remove them from themselves as part of

22:43

this like performance art. Oh

22:45

yeah. It's a really difficult movie to

22:47

watch. I'm not certain kinds of

22:50

body horror I can deal with that I don't really

22:52

like cutting and there's a lot of cutting in this

22:54

movie but it's got Viggo Mortensen in it and it's

22:56

kind of a dark comedy and it

22:58

really does deal with sort of this

23:00

idea of like how if

23:03

we change to a certain degree

23:05

are we still human that kind of question. Clearly

23:09

I think we're all on the same page here folks

23:11

and you listening along at home it's

23:13

an ideal first date movie you know you

23:15

really get a sense of the person that

23:18

you're meeting it's like up there with that

23:20

time I actually went to Requiem for a

23:22

Dream on a first date. And then had

23:24

pancakes or something afterwards? Yeah with the Applebee's.

23:26

Yeah okay. Shout out Paul Beckett. Yeah yeah

23:28

yeah. And that was but that's I think

23:30

you're raising I

23:33

think you're raising some fantastic points

23:35

here because the

23:38

again some form of this

23:40

science or some application thereof

23:43

is almost inevitable and we know

23:45

that there's a every year

23:47

there are so many organizations

23:49

or startups that sell

23:52

what we will call vaporware right and get

23:54

a bunch of angel investors

23:56

and then it turns into a

23:58

jam tomorrow never. am today's

24:00

situation, but Matt, the sense that

24:03

I am getting from our

24:05

dear Prozac elf here is

24:07

that there's some real sand

24:09

to this, correct? Yeah, well the elf

24:11

hipped us to an MIT technology review

24:14

article from August 25th, 2022. At least

24:17

that's the one that I found because we

24:19

were just kind of searching around. But this

24:21

is the one I found by Jessica Hamzalu

24:23

and the title is, this company

24:26

is about to grow new organs in a

24:28

person for the first time. A

24:30

volunteer with severe liver disease will soon

24:32

undergo a procedure that could lead them

24:34

to grow a second liver. And

24:37

it goes through and talks about some

24:39

PR materials that were put out by

24:42

this company, Ligensis, which if

24:44

you want to look it up,

24:46

it is spelled L-Y-G-E-N-E-S-I-S. What is

24:48

their stock symbol? I

24:51

don't know. Not kidding. Could

24:55

be a goodbye. Just saying.

24:57

No, some of you are

24:59

like, ooh, hmm. I

25:02

don't know if they're traded, maybe they are. I have

25:04

no idea. I have no info on that. All I

25:06

know is that back in August of

25:08

2022, they were talking about

25:10

the first trial as an individual

25:12

human being in Massachusetts

25:14

Boston, Massachusetts that is going to

25:17

try the treatment out. This thing

25:20

that Skippy was describing as injecting

25:22

with stem cells and whatever other

25:24

proprietary materials that they're injecting a

25:27

person with into their

25:29

lymph nodes. And then somehow

25:31

magically, through science

25:33

actually, you, the patient would grow a

25:35

new liver. And I say a new

25:38

liver because that's how it's described initially

25:40

there. But if you

25:42

move through time, just a little ways to 2023, there

25:44

is a PR piece,

25:47

a public relations piece that's put

25:50

out through PR Newswire by Ligensis

25:53

that discusses how they just raised 19 million

25:55

in what they call series A2 funding,

25:59

along with this other lab to actually

26:02

go into clinical trials and

26:04

to actually move this thing forward, move

26:06

the needle, if you will. And

26:08

then you get to the

26:11

final one I was looking at, guys, is from

26:13

April 2nd of this year, And

26:16

this is when Lygenesis puts out another

26:19

PR piece through PR Newswire saying

26:21

that now they have the first

26:23

person going into a phase 2A

26:25

clinical trial of this,

26:28

what they call regenerative cell therapy

26:30

for patients with end stage liver

26:32

disease. And it

26:34

is crazy, y'all. It is

26:37

not just growing a second liver. According

26:40

to Lygenesis, the

26:42

patient would grow several livers, if

26:45

not six livers in their body,

26:47

just tiny little ones inside those

26:50

lymph nodes because the

26:52

cell therapy that they are injecting

26:54

into these lymph nodes with

26:57

the stem cells actually changes the

26:59

lymph node into liver cells and

27:01

it builds one at each

27:03

lymph node inside the body. So six new

27:06

livers in places where the liver

27:08

is not. First

27:11

question would be, do we know

27:14

how this affects the function of the

27:16

lymph nodes? I guess they are no

27:19

longer lymph nodes, they are now liver

27:21

nodes. Okay. Yeah. And

27:23

it is still better than dying from liver disease,

27:26

right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

27:29

I am looking at the website

27:31

and thank you Matt and thank you Prozac

27:34

Health for sending this. It

27:36

looks like they have already

27:38

done a lot of modeling

27:41

and small and large

27:44

animal experimentation. So moving to

27:47

these clinical trial phases, that does

27:49

mean human, right? Just to be

27:51

clear? Yes, human clinical

27:53

trials. Rubber is hitting the

27:55

road. Alright. Nodin' up. Guys,

27:58

look. I am not going to do that.

28:00

I'm sure this is a great company

28:02

filled with awesome human beings who are brilliant,

28:04

who understand the science behind this, the math

28:06

behind all this, and they're just working it

28:08

all out. But if you go to

28:10

their website and you go to the science section

28:13

of their website, there's a little thing you

28:15

could click on that says our science. I'm

28:17

going to read this out loud. And just tell

28:20

me how you feel when I read this out loud.

28:22

Quote, our allogenic cell

28:25

therapies leverage the biology of

28:27

the lymph node to engraft,

28:29

proliferate and form functional ectopic

28:31

organs that recapitulate the native

28:33

organs function. So

28:36

they're using a lot of fancy words to make

28:38

it how they know what they're talking about. It

28:40

sounds like it's for investors who have a bunch

28:43

of money and go, oh my God, this is

28:45

insane. What is that even? Am

28:47

I giving you this many millions of dollars? Some

28:50

of these words in the mission statement better have

28:52

at least three syllables. They

28:54

really have to drop recapitulate. I

28:56

mean, come on. Ectopic

28:58

organs maybe, but yeah, I mean,

29:00

it's technically it is correct. Like

29:03

ectopic just means for anybody who's familiar with

29:05

the situation like an ectopic pregnancy, that

29:07

means the thing is happening outside of

29:10

the area where it's supposed to happen.

29:12

So these livers formed by lymph nodes, these mini livers,

29:15

these JV livers are ectopic

29:17

at that point. And

29:19

recapitulate is kind of one of those, one

29:23

of those words in English that's

29:25

unnecessarily confusing to me a

29:27

couple different things like you could make a

29:29

summary, you can

29:31

repeat something but I think here

29:33

they mean to accurately mimic

29:36

or repeat the action of the

29:38

original liver. Yeah, I agree. But

29:40

I think the use of that word begs

29:43

credulity just a tiny little bit. And

29:46

I was only half joking about the stock thing.

29:48

It turns out they are not publicly traded by

29:50

the way. Not yet. Not yet. You

29:54

know, early. I mean, they

29:56

are merging with another company called Ajax,

29:58

I found. And even

30:01

that as a name of a

30:03

company their Ajax therapeutics screams

30:07

No, kind of pie in the

30:09

sky kind of tech like biotech Ajax

30:12

therapeutics is focused on the

30:14

development and commercialization of novel

30:17

therapeutics targeting human aging We

30:19

are building upon the foundation

30:21

of our proprietary technology such

30:23

as pure stem Trademark

30:26

and induced tissue regeneration

30:28

I lowercase I TR

30:31

Trademark to develop innovative medicines

30:33

designed to address some of

30:35

the largest unsolved problems in

30:37

aging I mean you need

30:39

that profit though I mean you need that

30:41

profit motive often to propel this

30:43

kind of research would be I think that's

30:45

very true That is very right profit is

30:48

not equal We should Doubt

30:50

their motives, but I mean we should

30:52

be honest right to guys points like

30:54

the we do know at least scoring

30:56

their website I haven't read this stuff,

30:58

but they do seem to

31:01

have peer-reviewed research and they are Bringing

31:03

this to market, but there are so many other

31:06

questions like what is Matt do we know whether

31:08

there is a kill

31:10

switch or a hand break To

31:12

say we're only gonna grow X

31:14

amount of these new Ectopic

31:17

livers could somebody die from having

31:19

too many man overs Many

31:23

livers Well, I mean, I don't

31:25

know. Well, I'm sorry You're

31:28

basically like a farm for livers.

31:30

It's not like they're hooked up

31:32

to your nervous system They're just

31:34

growing on you right? Yeah, right

31:36

like in your notes. Yeah,

31:38

so this is really important Let's

31:40

go through this really quickly. This is from the

31:42

PR. They put out in early April here I'm

31:45

gonna read part of this Their

31:47

biologic therapy is created starting from

31:49

donated otherwise unmatched livers So a

31:51

donated liver that doesn't have a

31:54

person that it's going to they

31:56

take basically the stem cells of

31:58

there are the cells out

32:00

of that liver, right? And

32:02

then they have a current

32:04

good manufacturing practice process that

32:07

carefully isolates and suspends

32:09

hepatocytes in a

32:11

solution ready for transplantation liver

32:15

cells into the patient's

32:17

upper abdominal lymph nodes.

32:20

So like up on your upper body here

32:23

and they use an

32:25

endoscopic ultrasound, a minimally invasive

32:28

approach. But then the lymph

32:30

nodes act as in

32:32

vivo bioreactors that make those

32:36

the liver cells, they're using

32:38

the words again, and graft

32:40

proliferate and then eventually generate

32:42

a functional ectopic liver tissue

32:45

like the stuff that you would need to make

32:47

a liver to become a liver. And

32:50

then you'd be able to take those out and

32:52

put one in you I think is the idea. I

32:55

see. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong here. I think

32:57

that's how it would work or maybe that's

32:59

not how it would work. Maybe it would

33:01

actually function as a liver in the lymph

33:03

node places. You just have several

33:05

small ones rather than one large one. Right,

33:08

right. It's a asymmetrical

33:10

solution to the problem of organ

33:13

donation. Well yeah, imagine how many

33:15

people it could potentially save, like

33:17

for real. Sure. Yeah. Oh. I

33:20

just want to add one last little thing

33:22

about the other company that I was talking

33:24

about, Ajax. They actually changed their name to

33:26

Serena Therapeutics in 2024, but there's one sentence

33:29

on here that just really has

33:31

me kind of, I don't know, it

33:34

says here, the ITR, which

33:36

is one of the trademark technologies,

33:38

which is induced tissue regeneration. ITR

33:41

is our revolutionary longevity

33:43

platform aiming to unlock

33:45

cellular immortality and regenerate

33:47

capacity to reverse age

33:49

related changes in the

33:51

body. So these companies are

33:53

aligned in some form. I got to do more

33:56

digging. It does seem that they have merged in

33:58

some way, but I don't want to... steer

34:00

anybody wrong. But there definitely have been press

34:03

releases indicating there is connection

34:05

between these companies. They're also

34:09

part of a larger trend, which surely

34:11

you notice as well, Skip. We

34:13

are past the phase

34:16

where everything sounds like vaporware in

34:18

anti-aging technology and in this particular

34:21

genre of biotech. It's on the

34:23

way. One thing to do that's

34:25

really interesting, if you ever have

34:28

some free time folks and

34:30

you don't want to go out and spend money,

34:33

check out these companies we're mentioning

34:35

and then do a little digging

34:38

into their board of directors and

34:40

learn where their executives are

34:42

coming from and then learn what

34:45

other things those executives are doing

34:47

because there's a heck of a

34:49

lot of VIN diagrams when it

34:51

comes to boards of directors. I

34:54

think, okay, overall, this

34:56

sounds like a good thing. Of course, once

34:59

the trials are occurring, it

35:01

may well happen that they run

35:03

into something unintended, right? That may

35:06

be an insurmountable obstacle or

35:08

hopefully more likely they

35:10

run into something that might

35:13

be a plot twist that might change

35:15

part of their approach, but they're still

35:17

able to get this across

35:19

the finish line. I mean, this could extend the

35:22

quality of life and the

35:26

quantity of life for millions of people.

35:28

I think that's really cool and

35:30

I just hope that when

35:32

something like this happens, when

35:34

it reaches market, as the

35:37

investors like to say, I hope that it

35:39

doesn't become a palliative only

35:41

for the wealthy. Yeah, really

35:44

hope so because it could be incredible. I

35:47

was just looking at one of the chairman

35:49

of the board of directors at LightGenesis,

35:51

Mr. Mellon, fascinating

35:53

character on several boards. Yeah,

35:56

yeah, yeah, yeah. Which doesn't

35:58

make them bad. No. But

36:00

he did publish a book in 2005 called

36:02

wake up survive and prosper in the coming

36:05

economic turmoil This guy loves New Zealand. How

36:07

many passports do you think he has? Oh

36:09

man, at least six and Wow

36:12

six deep In

36:14

2020 wrote a book called moves

36:17

law M. OOS law and

36:19

investors guide to the new agrarian

36:21

revolution No snake oil. He's

36:23

out of me guy. I don't know. I don't

36:26

know. I don't know. Well, we're gonna find out

36:28

only time and those hepatocytes

36:30

will tell So gentlemen,

36:33

I think that's all from this one.

36:35

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36:37

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36:39

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have returned. We have

40:07

one piece of correspondence here

40:09

from Phoebe, which is

40:11

representative of several other communications.

40:15

We got in the wake

40:17

of something we talked about

40:19

briefly on a previous strange

40:21

news, which is the story

40:23

of private South Korean companies

40:26

paying families or paying

40:28

their employees to have children. There's

40:31

an underwear company that gives you like the

40:33

equivalent of $22,400 a piece for the first two. And

40:38

then there is a construction company that gives

40:40

you the equivalent of like $70,000. Just

40:43

pop out one. And there's

40:45

a lot of context here. We

40:48

mentioned, yes, declining birth

40:50

rates and what we would call the, you

40:52

know, the quote unquote developed world. We also,

40:55

I think, briefly alluded to just how

40:58

hyper competitive the

41:01

culture of South Korea can

41:03

be overall. You know, the

41:05

tremendous amount of pressure put on people from

41:08

their first days of school all

41:11

the way into their adult life

41:13

and retirement. One thing we

41:15

didn't mention is this, and we're

41:17

going to share this letter from Phoebe and

41:19

then we'll discuss some of the factors at

41:22

play here. Phoebe says, hey,

41:24

guys, long time listener here, you can call

41:26

me Phoebe. When you were talking about

41:28

the Korean company that was giving out a

41:30

bonus for having kids, I was hoping you

41:33

would mention the For B movement happening there.

41:36

The movement, says Phoebe, is basically

41:38

women opting out of dating, marriage

41:40

and babies. The words

41:43

for these all start with B in Korean as

41:45

a result of sexual assault and

41:48

harassment being so prevalent, especially with

41:50

things like the in rooms in

41:52

Japan. Women feel like it's dangerous

41:54

to bring a new life into

41:56

this world where these Korean men

41:59

and lawmakers, are turning a

42:01

blind eye to the violence happening

42:03

to women. Anyhow, thank

42:05

you. And this is just

42:08

one of the one of

42:10

the pieces of correspondence we received regarding

42:13

this. Now have you guys heard of the

42:15

For B movement before? And this

42:17

is new to me. Same. Yeah

42:19

it's it's something I think

42:22

it picked up in the

42:24

West a lot of people on TikTok

42:26

and Twitter started paying attention to it

42:28

around 2019. It was

42:32

propagating through various social media accounts

42:34

but it will

42:36

be described often as

42:39

a quote radical feminist movement

42:42

and the For B's or the

42:44

For No's are the following. One,

42:46

no sex with men, two, no

42:48

child rearing, three, no dating men,

42:50

and four, no marriage with men.

42:53

Ouch. Yeah so it's it's like

42:55

hey stings. We're fine without

42:59

you know all your mess, your baggage,

43:01

your threats. Is there

43:03

a word for supporting the

43:05

meaning behind or the reason

43:07

to have a movement but

43:10

also fundamentally don't want it

43:12

to happen because you're one of those people who

43:14

isn't like the people that they're fighting against? Hey

43:16

sir we need to come up with a word

43:18

for that. Okay yeah we do because what you

43:21

just said was incomprehensible to me. I just mean

43:23

it's like a lot. You're

43:28

right. It's like I agree totally

43:30

down and I agree with the reasoning

43:32

behind all of this and why you

43:34

would do that. As sort of

43:37

a form of protest to like we won't do

43:39

this until these issues are fixed. Not

43:41

necessarily like we hate. Because

43:45

I'm not there so I can't you know see but

43:47

I just think that that's a just sort

43:50

of a slightly different way of looking at it.

43:52

I really validly reframes my whole thinking about it

43:54

frankly. I mean yeah you nailed it. Yeah

43:56

thank you so much for that doc because

43:59

that is something that kind of came

44:01

up in our off-air conversation as well. The

44:03

way we're seeing this, there's so much to

44:05

get into here, but the way we're seeing

44:07

this presented in the West, we have

44:09

to be very careful with this. None

44:12

of us are living in

44:15

South Korea, and it's

44:17

perhaps easier, dangerously

44:20

so, for Westerners to read

44:22

stories about this protest

44:25

movement, things like that. The

44:27

fight for equality, you see it happening, you

44:29

think about it in terms

44:31

of another society, another

44:33

country. You other the problem,

44:36

and in doing so, run the

44:39

very real risk of ignoring the

44:41

continuing problems that exist in your

44:43

own neck of the woods. I

44:46

just was doing a little cursory googling, and

44:48

I found a really cool article that I

44:50

love to dig into on the cut called,

44:53

A World Without Men, The Women of South Korea's For

44:55

B Boon aren't fighting the patriarchy,

44:58

they're leaving it behind entirely. There's a

45:00

great poll quote that sums up

45:02

the cultural aspect of this,

45:05

that makes it so unique. In

45:07

their view, Korean men are

45:09

essentially beyond redemption, and Korean

45:11

culture on the whole is

45:13

hopelessly patriarchal, often downright misogynistic.

45:16

I do think there's parts of

45:18

that you could certainly apply to American culture

45:20

as well, patriarchal culture as well, but there

45:22

it seems to be even

45:25

more extreme than what we have here. I

45:27

like that you're bringing this up because this is one of the

45:29

primary things I pulled as well. Thanks

45:31

to Anna-Louise Sussman right

45:33

in the cut, March 8th, 2023, this is a tough thing

45:38

for a lot of people to read

45:41

because there are in-depth

45:43

stories of female,

45:45

female identifying residents of South

45:47

Korea who have just had

45:49

terrible, terrible, terrible things occur

45:51

to them. To be

45:53

clear, they are absolutely not their fault. They're all

45:55

innocent people victimized by

45:57

a... a

46:00

large scale blindness really.

46:03

And we know that this is the,

46:06

4B is the descendant

46:08

of another movement called Escape

46:11

the Corset Movement in 2016,

46:13

which kind of inspired 4B. Escape

46:16

the Corset? Escape the

46:18

Corset. The word Corset here is kind of like

46:20

a metaphor for the

46:22

social forces repressing women in that

46:24

country. Or even the history of

46:26

the corset is incredibly misogynistic. I

46:28

mean, maybe at least, I'm sure

46:31

there are some women that enjoyed

46:33

wearing a corset, I suppose, but

46:35

it was certainly foisted upon

46:37

women by the male gaze, right? Like

46:39

it's like, we need you to look

46:42

this certain way, have this certain figure,

46:44

therefore we will insist

46:46

that you wear these very constricting garments

46:48

that are not pleasant at all, or

46:51

tantamount to abuse

46:54

in a lot of ways. And

46:56

we see also that the

46:59

4B movement by its own description

47:02

is meant to be, like you were saying,

47:04

Doc, it's a protest as well, like think

47:06

of it that way in that framework. Think

47:09

of it also as an oppositional

47:11

force to the traditionally incredibly

47:14

patriarchal state of

47:16

South Korea. And

47:19

for people who are part of

47:21

this movement, part of this protest,

47:24

what they're saying is the state,

47:26

including the giant corporations, the Chai

47:29

Bowl, including everybody

47:31

from the local

47:33

legislators to Samsung on down,

47:35

they are only viewing women's

47:38

bodies and reproductive abilities

47:40

as tools for the future of

47:42

the state, which gets very

47:44

authoritarian. Can I jump in with one more thing

47:47

here? Yes, please do, Doc. Yeah, one

47:49

more thing that I think is sort of

47:51

noteworthy about, for example, the incidents of intimate

47:53

partner violence being significantly higher in South Korea,

47:55

something like 41.5%, which

47:59

is higher than the global government. global average and then

48:01

also the president that was recently elected

48:03

there said that he was going to

48:05

dismantle the, the ministry for gender equality

48:08

or saying that he wanted to and sort

48:10

of this, in addition to the actual issues

48:13

that are impacting them that they're protesting against

48:15

also the sort of gaslighting of them saying

48:17

this is not actually an issue. And

48:19

the president has said something about feminism being to

48:22

blame for the low

48:24

birth rate instead of actually

48:26

acknowledging the problems that they're

48:29

trying to sift out again.

48:31

That's like corporations like creating

48:33

recycling to pivot the

48:35

blame of pollution onto, you know, consumers

48:37

basically. To be more craft, tell me

48:40

what you all think about this. Is

48:42

it not kind of like saying our

48:45

nation has a house fire problem? So

48:47

to combat that, I'm getting rid of

48:49

all the fire stations. It's

48:52

wild. That'll be the problem. It's a lot.

48:55

I'm not familiar with this issue until now.

48:57

I want to do some more digging into

48:59

it. I really appreciate Alexis, you

49:02

bringing up the idea of this is a protest

49:05

kind of movement more than it is like

49:08

this is the way it has to be

49:10

for everyone and all people. And if you're

49:12

not on board with this hard line kind

49:14

of attitude towards men, then, you're

49:16

not, you know, doing it right. I think

49:19

that's maybe what hit Matt and I, you

49:21

know, weirdly initially, but no, I totally get

49:23

it. And it makes a lot of sense.

49:25

We also know, doc,

49:28

you and we're talking about this. We also

49:30

know that, again, the point I don't want

49:32

to miss is that it

49:35

is all too easy to look

49:37

at this and say this is

49:39

happening somewhere else. But doc, you

49:41

and I had like spent time

49:43

thinking, we're talking to each other.

49:45

You rightly pointed out you're like

49:47

the gender wage

49:49

gap is everywhere too,

49:52

right? The United States is no

49:54

exception, right? Yeah, absolutely. Because that's also

49:56

one of the things that's listed as being

49:58

part of the inspiration for the or be

50:00

movement is the gender like pay wage

50:02

gap being the highest in the developed

50:04

world there in South Korea at like

50:06

31 cents on the dollar

50:08

but it's actually like when you get

50:10

to the United States it's not that

50:12

much different and then also when you

50:14

add the intersectionality of the pay wage

50:17

gap between like Hispanic women or Black

50:19

women or Indigenous women you know so

50:21

yeah it's one of those things where

50:23

we can sort of look at this

50:25

as a microcosm of something that's happening

50:27

with different levels of extremeness in

50:29

other places. And maybe

50:31

you can help us out as well folks because

50:34

codename doc Matt Knoll and your

50:36

faithful correspondent I've been trying

50:38

to think of a country where some version

50:40

of this is not occurring. Of course you

50:42

know we have a patriarchy problem right here

50:44

in the US of A no question about

50:46

it and as I think got to the

50:48

point where it's maybe better

50:51

than it has been in the past but

50:53

it's certainly always room to improve that but

50:55

I was just looking up like one aspect

50:58

of South Korean culture that I'm a huge

51:00

fan of and I think we all are are

51:02

the films you know there's some incredible directors and

51:04

and wonderful films out of South Korea. I

51:07

just looked up the stat I was

51:09

wondering how many you know women directors

51:11

of a certain scale there are and

51:13

I saw an article here from

51:16

the Korea Jung Ang Daily saying

51:19

that only one of 35 Korean

51:21

films of a certain scale was directed

51:24

by a woman last year. Don't even

51:26

get me started on those statistics in

51:28

America because I have a lot of. No I know

51:30

I know a lot of it is lip service I

51:32

know it is and you know it's I'm

51:35

not saying it's good but I'm saying it's at

51:37

least more than one. I don't know. Yeah

51:39

but it says something like you know 20 to one here in terms

51:43

of films that are directed by a woman

51:45

versus a man so that's only sort of

51:47

the thing that we can look at and

51:49

say okay yeah in South Korea they're saying

51:51

that the instance of domestic partner or like

51:53

intimate violence is at 41 percent but the

51:56

global is at 30 percent. That's still pretty

51:58

high you know like a third. That means

52:00

like a third of intimate partner

52:02

relationships have some sort of intimate

52:04

partner violence involved. So yeah,

52:06

so that's just sort of the thing in

52:08

terms of thinking about like what they're doing and

52:11

what they're speaking out against and like, yeah,

52:13

it's bad there and that's why they're doing this,

52:15

but also it's not necessarily miles better. Right.

52:18

No, and I certainly wasn't implying that it was.

52:20

No, I don't think it was.

52:22

Yeah, we're also, if anything, we're

52:25

showing a wider lens here. I

52:30

don't know enough about cinematography to know if

52:32

that sure works. Well, you know who does?

52:34

Code name Doc. Yeah, and Doc, I just wanted

52:37

to add in the same article that I was

52:39

just referencing, zero women

52:42

cinematographers in this crop of films they're

52:44

talking about. Yeah, we're like 4% here.

52:47

I know, yeah, I know. And as

52:49

you can tell folks, we

52:52

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52:54

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52:57

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53:00

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53:21

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