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Actual telepathy. That's weird. That's

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a thing. We've got a wholesome

1:01

conspiracy from schools.

1:04

Seriously, no, this one will it's

1:06

a little bit of levity. We got

1:09

some great responses to our earlier question

1:11

about the voter age. Before we

1:13

do any of that, we

1:15

have some concerning news or

1:18

what would you call it.

1:19

Matt, it

1:21

is I was trying to make a cow reference

1:23

or a bird reference. I don't know, no,

1:26

you're gonna love this one. Oh boy. Birds

1:28

are sick and their sickness is infecting

1:30

everybody else, and we get We've

1:33

been kind of watching things

1:35

in the news about this since twenty twenty

1:38

two PS, but we haven't covered

1:40

it in full and Plant Queen reached out

1:42

to us with the

1:44

reason why we should cover it, and we'll get

1:46

into that in just a second. Here's

1:54

the message from Plant Queen.

1:56

Hey, guys, this is you

1:58

can call me the Plank. I

2:01

hail from Colorado.

2:03

I have been kind of listening to you

2:05

guys a podcast for many moons now many

2:08

years, and I wanted to call

2:10

in for the first time, but.

2:13

I don't think anybody's talking about something that should.

2:15

Be talked about. In March of this year, bird

2:17

flu transferred to farm animals and

2:19

is now making its way into the

2:22

dairy products. I just wanted to

2:24

double check and make sure that I have the states

2:27

right, but it seems that samples

2:30

were tested and on Thursday, bird

2:32

flu had been detected in thirty three herds

2:34

in eight states Idaho,

2:36

Kansas, Michigan, New Mexico,

2:39

Carolina.

2:40

South Dakota, Ohio, and Texas.

2:42

I just think it's pretty interesting that this

2:44

hasn't actually hit me in news yet, and I

2:47

feel like maybe you should have

2:49

a quick discussion about this on air and maybe

2:51

track this a little bit. Anyways,

2:53

guys, thanks for all you do for us.

2:55

And I would die if I heard

2:58

this on air, says

3:00

out there, and I hope the stares

3:02

back invite.

3:03

Oh oh don't, I don't die.

3:05

No, no, no, everything's fine, everything's fine.

3:08

I knew the birds were going to be what killed us ultimately,

3:10

man, I knew it of any colonists.

3:13

In day one.

3:13

All right, our our individual

3:16

or personal biases, be they what they may,

3:18

or biases whatever. Thank

3:21

you Plant Queen for writing in and

3:24

Matt as as you mentioned

3:26

on Aaron, as we've discussed off air,

3:30

we're the type of folks who spend some time

3:32

thinking about things like this.

3:34

Well yeah, because look, part of our

3:36

jobs is to look through the news like

3:39

constantly, always, we don't stop.

3:41

So if something hits, let's say,

3:43

an outfit like Reiter's or I

3:46

don't know what, a science alert or a

3:48

scientific American, we're going to

3:50

take note. And this subject

3:52

has been written about Plant Queen

3:55

extensively, but for some reason,

3:57

it just doesn't get the traction. The

4:00

old bird flu doesn't seem as scary anymore.

4:02

After ye old pandemic, I would pause

4:04

it. So I think

4:07

this is a little under the radar,

4:10

legit scary thing that's coming

4:12

our way.

4:15

We can well, I okay. We

4:17

tried to gather several of these sources

4:20

right where we can kind of illustrate why it

4:22

seems like it's getting a bit more

4:24

of a hairy situation day by day. So

4:27

we're gonna read some of the headlines and then we'll jump

4:29

into these articles. So this is a

4:31

headline from Reuters written

4:33

on May one, twenty twenty four.

4:36

And before we get into that, guys, I got to give this

4:38

little piece of information. Plant Queen

4:40

called in on April twenty sixth of

4:43

this year, and she was when she said Thursday,

4:45

the testing and the results on Thursday.

4:47

That was April twenty fifth, So

4:50

like just just like what last

4:52

week as we're recording this basically

4:54

pretty much last week. So

4:56

this article from Reuters May first

4:59

state, this is the headline US

5:01

bird flu outbreak spreads to chickens

5:04

cattle, raises concerns over human

5:06

infections, which is something

5:09

we've always talked about. What happens when

5:11

an infection jumps species, right,

5:14

or you know, jumping from

5:16

a bird to another bird

5:18

like a chicken. Right, No, that's concerning,

5:21

but okay, that kind of makes sense. Jumping from

5:23

a bird to a mammal like

5:25

you know, cows cattle, much

5:27

more concerning. Jumping from cattle mammals

5:30

than to humans. Quite concerning.

5:33

It means younatic mm hmm.

5:36

So that just throwing that out there. That

5:38

was one of the things. Here's

5:41

another really concerning one from

5:43

Science Alert. This was also

5:45

on May first. Bird

5:47

flu in raw cow milk, so

5:50

it's transferred now, you know, through the

5:52

cow via the milk, right,

5:56

has killed farm animals in

5:58

a concerning first which

6:00

includes a bunch of cats

6:02

that were living on a farm who were

6:04

consuming the milk from the cows. They

6:07

got bird flu and a bunch of

6:09

them died.

6:11

You know.

6:11

It's interesting, Like you know, raw milk

6:14

is a thing. It's a sort of a controversial

6:16

thing where some people like the idea

6:18

of raw milk or it hasn't been pasteurized

6:21

or you get it directly from the cow, and

6:24

it's actually, I don't think entirely legal

6:26

in some places, but I do have to

6:28

wonder if pasteurization deals with this

6:31

or are we really mainly only concerned with it

6:33

getting into humans.

6:35

By people drinking the raw milk.

6:36

It's not that it would necessarily make it to supermarket

6:39

shelves per se.

6:40

According to the FDA, I'm glad you

6:42

asked that, Noel. According to the FDA, the pasteurization

6:45

process in American milk that's being

6:47

produced by these cows that are infected

6:50

with bird flu is fine to drink because

6:53

of that pasturization process. Everything's

6:55

fine, according to the FDA. We don't

6:58

have to worry about a thing. We're good to go. We

7:00

are talking about raw milk here, the thing that

7:02

spread from the cows to these cats.

7:04

I'm going to read from this article though, because it

7:06

really I want to say, Yeah,

7:08

FDA, you're right. Pasteurization process is there

7:10

for reason. It probably works, Thank goodness,

7:12

it does. We probably shouldn't be that

7:15

concerned. But this is why it's concerning to me. This

7:17

from the article. In mid March, a mysterious

7:19

disease began to spread among cows at a

7:21

North Texas dairy farm. Just a few days

7:23

later, cats on the farm started acting

7:26

strangely. Their eyes and noses

7:28

leaked copiously. They walked incessantly

7:31

in circles. Their bodies began to

7:33

grow stiff, they lost their sight

7:35

and their coordination, and then they

7:37

began to die.

7:39

Is this a horror story that I wrote and forgot?

7:41

What's going on?

7:42

Well, it's one of the most horrible things, especially if you're

7:44

a lover of cats, as we three are.

7:47

This is a horrifying thing, right, But

7:49

it gets worse, you, guys, it

7:52

gets worse you. Then

7:54

jump over to MSNBC. The

7:56

title of their article is, which was

7:58

posted on April thirtieth, twenty twenty

8:00

four. The bird flu is uncontrolled

8:03

and it keeps showing up in the scariest

8:06

places. Maybe a scare tactic

8:08

to get you to read the article. Feels like

8:10

it kind of. But according to this

8:12

article, the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration,

8:15

revealed last week as that article was

8:17

written, that it had found traces of the bird

8:19

flu virus in twenty percent

8:22

of a nationally representative sample of

8:24

commercially sold pasteurized

8:26

milk.

8:27

Wait, but I thought the FDA said we were good.

8:29

Yeah, yeah,

8:33

So

8:35

so it's one of

8:37

those things like, can I actually

8:40

get the bird flu from just

8:42

buying some milk out of a store and

8:44

taking it home and drinking it, or maybe God forbid

8:47

giving it to my children.

8:48

Maybe that's scary. That's

8:51

genuinely scary. It continues

8:53

on down because there are now

8:55

there appear to be confirmed cases

8:58

where this it's I think it's five

9:00

one if you want to refer to it as

9:02

the specific thing. This has

9:05

traversed from cattle into

9:08

a human being at least once or twice.

9:11

There's one Texas farm where a dairy

9:13

worker appears to have been infected

9:16

with this H five N one virus

9:18

from the cattle. And this comes

9:20

to us from statnews dot com.

9:22

You can find in other places. There's a

9:24

piece in Fortune. The title of

9:26

that is Texas Vet who cares for forty thousand

9:29

cattle said nearly every farm that had

9:31

cows sick with bird flu also had

9:33

sick workers, which

9:37

again, who knows that's a Fortune article.

9:39

I couldn't gain access to it, guys, because I'm

9:41

not registered with them or

9:43

subscribed to Fortune or whatever it is. But you

9:45

can on stat news find a free article

9:48

which goes through some of this stuff, and

9:51

it cites a report in the

9:54

New England Journal of Medicine that

9:56

was put out Goodness last

9:58

Friday as we're recording this on May

10:00

third, that talks about

10:02

this person. It's a it's

10:04

a human being and quote

10:07

unidentified man who has symptoms

10:09

of this bird flu and there

10:11

was a potential or possible rout of infection

10:13

via cattle. That doesn't mean they've

10:16

conclusively determined that this man

10:18

got bird flu from one of the cows.

10:21

But again concerning we should at

10:23

least be thinking about it.

10:24

And Matt, isn't there discussion with the

10:26

WHO and the scientific community about

10:28

how the next big pandemic will

10:31

likely be caused by flu viruses?

10:34

Yeah, a zoonotic flu. What

10:36

we call this infection whatever,

10:39

I don't know. I don't know what the words would be.

10:41

That's the thing. You know, Influenza

10:44

is treatable, but it's

10:47

very difficult to wipe it out, and

10:49

it evolves or mutates at

10:51

such a rapid rate. There's always

10:54

you know, how like you go to a gas station

10:57

and there's always a couple

10:59

of mixtape by people you've never

11:01

heard of. Influenza is always

11:03

dropping mixtapes. That's the reason why

11:06

it remains such a

11:08

scary thing. You know, it's a you

11:10

might be a vegetarian or a Vegan

11:13

in the crowd this evening and saying,

11:15

well, I don't you

11:18

know, I don't interact with

11:20

dairy as an industry, as

11:23

a product, et cetera. But

11:25

this can still hit you

11:27

to your point, Matt. And as

11:29

you can see, our larger concern plant

11:32

Queen is the idea

11:34

of becoming zoonotic, because

11:37

once it jumps that chasm, right,

11:39

once it mutates to that level, which

11:42

it can very easily do, this is a non

11:44

zero possibility. Then

11:46

the next question is how communicable

11:49

does it become amid the human population.

11:52

You know, and how dangerous is it

11:54

once you get infected? Right, right?

11:56

And that MSNBC

11:59

article linked out to another piece from The Guardian

12:02

from April twentieth

12:04

of this year by Robin

12:07

McKees, the science editor or one

12:09

of the science editors for The Guardian, and

12:11

it says an international survey to be published

12:14

next weekend will reveal that fifty

12:16

seven percent of senior disease experts

12:18

now think that the strain of flu virus will

12:20

be the cause of the next global outbreak

12:22

of deadly infectious illness.

12:25

And that is certainly tied to and

12:27

part of this bird flu conversation.

12:30

Avian strain man, Guys,

12:33

there are too many specifics I think even

12:35

to get into today. I

12:37

wonder if it's time to do another full

12:39

on bird flu episode where we can go through

12:42

the entire timeline, which you can find

12:44

by the way. There are some great sites.

12:47

I'd go to the poultry site

12:49

dot com. That's a good one. They've

12:51

got the dates written out, starting

12:53

back in February of twenty twenty

12:55

two when there was an outbreak of this

12:58

what they called highly pathogenic avian

13:00

flu in an Indiana turkey

13:02

flock. And it

13:04

was the first case since twenty

13:07

twenty two of this type of infection and some kind

13:09

of commercial what they call poultry

13:11

population. And it

13:13

follows it along where it appears to

13:16

be spreading more and more and more to other

13:18

types of farm animals again

13:20

including cattle and the cats

13:22

that live on that farm and now humans.

13:25

Yeah, and this also goes back. This

13:27

is a modern iteration of a larger

13:29

pattern. We know, it goes back to

13:32

eighteen seventy eight when many people

13:34

listening tonight were not alive.

13:36

Yeah, oh yeah, here's a

13:39

really creepy thing in the timeline, guys. On April

13:41

twenty fifth, the country of Columbia

13:44

became the first country to restrict

13:46

the import of beef and beef products

13:48

coming from the United States due to bird

13:51

flu in those dairy cows.

13:53

A headline that might sound counterintuitive

13:56

to many of us listening along, But as

13:59

you point out a Stuteley Plant queen,

14:02

it's because of the sort

14:04

of chain of transmission, right,

14:07

you know, we're not and

14:09

true to be fair, sometimes

14:12

you'll see kind of constructed rationale

14:15

for banning imports or exports of

14:17

things because it's part of a trade

14:20

war. But in this case the

14:22

concern is real. It's not. It

14:25

has nothing to do with or

14:27

very little to do with the

14:30

financial relationship between Colombia

14:32

and the United States, and that instance,

14:34

it is because the nation of Columbia

14:37

doesn't want to be ground zero

14:39

for some crazy, unbeatable

14:42

influenza.

14:44

Yeah that you know, ends up turning us

14:46

all into zombies. Just kidding, just kidding, that's not gonna

14:48

happen. We're good. This is not the last of

14:50

us. Now. One last thing to go

14:52

back to that April twenty third instance where

14:55

the US Food and Drug Administration

14:58

found those avan influenza

15:00

particles within pasteurized milk

15:02

samples. They did

15:05

say after finding that even the FDA

15:07

said no, the milk

15:09

supply in the United States is safe because

15:11

of pasteurization, even though they

15:13

found the particles in some pasteurized milk.

15:15

Okay, just leaving that there.

15:18

Great, We'll be back with

15:20

more messages from you.

15:28

And we've returned with another message

15:31

from you. Yes you will repeat

15:34

a fender yessense mean

15:37

we actually heard from this individual

15:39

last week. I think I had

15:42

an email from GP Scooch

15:44

and our last listener mail. You don't typically

15:47

do back to back features of

15:49

our wonderful listeners here, but this one was too

15:51

good to pass up and too topical

15:54

given the current political climate

15:56

and an election cycle and all of that.

15:59

Also, to be clear, he's not joking

16:01

in this.

16:02

One, that's right. Yes,

16:04

this is a very very thoughtful This

16:07

is a.

16:07

Longing, a bit of a long one, but I

16:09

think absolutely worth it. I'm just going to read it straight through

16:11

and then we'll just discuss. So, dear parasocial

16:14

friends, the general rule of thumb, I waited at least twenty

16:16

four hours before writing a response to a question or

16:18

statement that is ignited a base reaction.

16:21

Your question about placing an upper limit on

16:23

voting age elicited such a reaction,

16:25

and yes, I waited the twenty four hours.

16:27

With the passage of the twenty sixth Amendment in nineteen

16:30

seventy one, I was among a group of new

16:32

voters falling in the range

16:34

of over eighteen but less than twenty

16:36

one at the time, I can assure you we

16:38

received no instructions or guidance on how to exercise

16:41

this new power. We simply did as everyone

16:43

before us had done, pay attention to what interested

16:45

us, be it local, state, or national, and

16:47

responded with a ballot that reflected our position.

16:50

Also, nothing happened that suddenly made us

16:52

any smarter, better at decision making, more

16:54

learned in the steps of practical and critical

16:57

thinking, or any other aspect of

16:59

our lives one would hope for from

17:01

an informed electorate. Our society

17:03

uses artificial age measurements for many of

17:05

our daily rights and responsibilities. These

17:08

age limits must be reached to drive, to

17:10

consume alcohol, to make contracts,

17:12

to own guns, to enlist in the military,

17:14

to hold certain jobs, and so on, to rent

17:17

a car.

17:17

I might add to.

17:18

Prove how artificial these are,

17:21

a kid in Kansas can get a special permit

17:23

to drive for very restricted and specific

17:25

purposes at age fourteen. Surrounding

17:28

states are age fifteen or sixteen, so

17:30

are Kansas kids more mature and responsible.

17:32

In Missouri, a server in

17:34

a restaurant can take the order for alcohol

17:36

at age eighteen, which means they are selling

17:39

it, but they must be twenty one to

17:41

prepare that same order and to deliver it to

17:43

the customer. This means dining establishment

17:45

might need a special person to deliver drinks one

17:47

over twenty one. We all know

17:49

people in their thirties who we regret

17:51

can drive, own guns, drink.

17:54

And vote. You're here.

17:55

We know people who should never be allowed to do

17:57

any of these things at any age. Thus

18:00

far, I have only discussed the lower age

18:02

limit because that is, in my opinion, where

18:05

most people have had personal experience with

18:07

these regulations. Of course, we all

18:09

know people in their eighties or nineties

18:11

who should no longer be driving an automobile.

18:14

But we also know people in their forties who should

18:16

not be driving either. There are no upper

18:18

limits for holding political or appointed office

18:20

in the United States. Maybe there should be, but

18:22

this could most easily be addressed through

18:25

term limits, not age restrictions.

18:27

Just as there is no standard for maturity in

18:29

an American eighteen year old. There is no standard

18:32

ninety year old or eighty year old or.

18:34

Seventy two year old.

18:35

At this later age, I

18:37

am more active and am aware

18:39

of issues than many of

18:41

my associates who are twenty or more years younger.

18:44

I know people in their nineties more active and aware

18:46

than I. The Constitution prohibits testing

18:48

of literacy or wealth qualifications

18:51

for voters, it stands to reason that mental

18:53

competency tests would also be prohibited,

18:55

especially in light of the fact that some members

18:58

of our Congress and some candidates expound

19:00

some of the weirdest I have seen

19:02

or heard in nearly five decades of education.

19:05

No, gentlemen, there can be no upper limit

19:07

on voting, or you may lose a large block

19:10

of seasoned, experienced Americans

19:12

who do use critical thinking and can apply

19:14

what they have learned to the ballot. Just

19:17

to prove how seriously we take the issue,

19:19

there are several petitions circulating to remove

19:21

the Lego limitation of ninety

19:24

nine years as the upper age limit

19:26

on their product. Lego like

19:29

the toy. I'm sorry some might

19:31

take issue with me calling it a toy, the construction,

19:34

hobby project.

19:36

Whatever.

19:36

As always, I love what you are doing. Have converted

19:39

many students to avid listeners after my Bob

19:41

Bardella and Obscene Clone Fall

19:43

letters made it onto the air well thank

19:45

you. It seems to impress students

19:48

more than a collection of degrees or

19:50

published works.

19:51

That's funny.

19:52

Who knew approvals for everything?

19:55

As al a is great Grandpa

19:57

GGP Scooch. But

20:00

oh man, it's so easy to get caught up

20:02

in like one aspect of something

20:04

like like age limits, where it seems

20:07

to make perfect sense, but then you realize

20:09

how many other situations it applies

20:11

to, and how it's a total throwing the baby

20:13

out with the bathwater situation, which you

20:15

know, it does make it difficult to have

20:18

laws that cover all the things,

20:20

all of the possible scenarios.

20:22

So I'm not saying it's easy to make

20:25

laws that are appropriately

20:28

kind of scalable. I know it's not. But

20:31

we certainly see overreaching

20:33

in a lot of lawmakers that you

20:36

know, we'll certainly do something with one intent

20:38

that it has all these other unintended

20:40

consequences. So I think maybe

20:42

I was the one kind of beating the drum for like

20:44

upper age limits, you know, for folks that

20:47

maybe are no longer in

20:49

a situation where they're able to exercise

20:51

that critical thinking, or they may have

20:53

gone down some sort of gnarly rabbit

20:56

hole, whether it be via isolation

20:59

or or some sort of onset of perhaps

21:02

a cognitive disorder.

21:04

But there's so many others that

21:07

are absolutely the standard bearer

21:09

of democracy in that age group

21:11

that we would also be losing. So

21:14

one would hope that per gg

21:16

p Scooch's point that it's sort

21:18

of there's a balancing that takes place, it

21:21

kind of an equalizing there, and

21:24

I would like to think that's true, but I don't know,

21:26

Guys. The lower age limit

21:28

thing has always been very issue to me because it's true,

21:30

like I have a fifteen year old who I know to

21:32

be much more mature than

21:34

a lot of eighteen year olds, you know, who

21:36

are in their peer group or friend group,

21:38

and he really does so many

21:41

factors that lead to maturity that

21:43

can come at a much earlier age or

21:45

in a much later age, or like arrested development

21:47

or whatever. But those limits are still in

21:49

place, and you know, some people might reach

21:52

the age or they are able to exercise the vote,

21:54

but maybe don't have the information and they're kind

21:56

of muddying the waters a little bit, but then one would

21:58

hope that there's a balance and sync factor there too,

22:01

So I don't know, what do you guys think. This is a really thoughtful

22:04

analysis from scoos here.

22:06

Yeah ggp. Scooch First, thank

22:08

you again for the obscene

22:11

clone falls as I said earlier, and

22:13

thank you also for this very

22:15

well written and thorough

22:17

and fascinating well reasoned I would say reply

22:20

to my original question about

22:24

upper age limits for voting. We've

22:26

discussed this a bit on the show, the idea,

22:29

the relatively arbitrary nature

22:32

of some of those lower end voting

22:35

restrictions or ritualized

22:38

rights of passage. You know, everybody

22:40

remembers I imagine the big kerfuffle when

22:42

people were getting drafted into the military

22:45

before they were legally able to do other

22:47

stuff besides die in a war. Also

22:51

want to shout out how our Palell super producer

22:53

Paul Michig controlled decand who did

22:55

indeed get his learner's permit.

22:58

He has revealed this at the age

23:00

of fourteen because.

23:01

Of the stipulation the scoot was talking about.

23:04

And then Paul also has pointed out there's the

23:06

farmer's permit, which you can get at age

23:08

fourteen, the difference being

23:11

that with a learner's or driver's

23:13

ED learner's permit at

23:15

fourteen, you have to drive with an adult

23:18

in the front seat with you, but a farmer's

23:21

permit allows you to drive

23:23

by yourself so long

23:25

as you are going to or from

23:28

a farming job or doing

23:30

farm related work. And I also

23:32

have a bit of a past with

23:34

that, because you know, if you're

23:37

out in the country in many parts

23:39

of America, we'll just see a kid on

23:41

the road. Sometimes he's not a John Deere tractor,

23:44

you know what I mean, shout out to tractor

23:48

supply.

23:49

Don't mean I'm sorry, guys, just really quickly. My eight

23:51

year old the other day driving when

23:54

I picked him up from daycare, and he

23:56

hopped in the front seat before I got

23:58

even into the car, and he was like, all right,

24:00

Dad, so when are you gonna teach

24:02

me how to drive? I'm ready? And you know, he can't

24:04

touch the pedals, but he knew

24:07

all the mechanisms. He was

24:09

like, oh, no, that's the gas, that's the break, this is

24:11

how you steer, this is how you put it in drive. And

24:13

I was just like, nah, man,

24:16

not yet, Nah, sorry.

24:19

Get one of those little cars, you

24:21

know what I mean, little kid cars.

24:23

He's too big for most of them. I'll find something, you'll

24:25

find Muslim are costs prohibitive,

24:27

But give.

24:28

Him something that's like not quite a real car,

24:30

like a Miata.

24:31

Yeah yeah,

24:34

send the email a Mini Cooper.

24:37

But those are no longer mini. Look

24:39

at the old Mini Coopers.

24:41

Look at the all right?

24:42

They are?

24:43

They are large now, aren't they? One

24:46

thing I can't remember because we did talk about

24:48

this, right, we like mentioned Okay, so

24:51

did I tell you the quick story about visiting

24:53

my cousins. I think I maybe did? I

24:55

want to echo something that Scooch said

24:57

there about knowings

24:59

there's no standard ninety eighty or seventy year

25:01

old. So I was

25:03

in North Georgia visiting my mid

25:06

to late seventy year old cousins. And

25:09

they they're amazing. They're selling

25:11

a house. They're really super cool. They

25:13

are feeling their age a little bit

25:15

due to some health issues. Right. They

25:18

told me that their friend is showing up, and

25:20

they told me she's a little older. This

25:24

Lincoln SUV rolls into

25:26

their driveway and out pops

25:28

this lady that's just like, oh,

25:30

hey, y'all, how you doing, and just like super

25:33

vibrant lively, she

25:35

is ninety four years old yea, and

25:38

I would have eff I would

25:40

never have guessed that she was that age.

25:42

And again it's just that point of like the age

25:44

really doesn't have anything to do with it. No,

25:47

it doesn't.

25:48

And we're talking about mitigating other mitigating

25:50

circumstances that could happen to anybody

25:52

at any age.

25:54

Any Yeah, there's not a one size

25:56

fits all, even

25:58

in a relatively harmonicrogenous civilization

26:02

like think of Japan. Right,

26:05

even when people will tend

26:08

to share more genetic factors

26:10

than they would in a nation like the United

26:12

States, you still can't account

26:14

for the case by case variables. I did

26:17

drop a little bit of a trick there, Scooch,

26:20

and I think you're picking up on it. The

26:23

arbitrary concept of

26:25

what age is or is not appropriate

26:28

to engage in things like driving

26:30

or voting, or joining

26:33

the military and so on, that

26:36

sort of stuff. In the case of voting,

26:38

I would argue, is compounded by

26:40

the fact that voting is

26:42

a right that can

26:45

be removed in the US

26:47

right if you have a felony conviction, etc. However,

26:51

it is not an obligation. And

26:54

I yet again say that there

26:56

is a lot of sand to requiring

26:58

people to vote, you know, because

27:02

if you're part of a niche, it's kind of like you're part

27:04

of the club, right, you got

27:06

a required to pay taxes. I mean,

27:08

yeah, you gotta pay taxes. So do

27:11

you choose taxation without representation?

27:14

That's a question. So people got really

27:17

up their butts about in seventeen seventy six

27:19

or so.

27:20

And you don't think though, perhaps the

27:22

lack of a you know, mandatory

27:24

vote isn't in some way convenient

27:28

for politicians who

27:30

maybe would rather some people not vote,

27:32

or they're like depending on that complicity

27:34

in order to help get elected because they know that

27:37

it's easier to fire up a zealous base

27:40

than it is to like, you know, convert

27:42

people that are maybe not interested.

27:44

It's a bag of badgers. Yeah, it's a complicated

27:47

thing. There's not really we

27:49

don't know the answers, folks. You tell

27:51

us, fellow conspiracy realist, how you

27:53

would solve for more

27:56

equitable voting situation,

27:58

more equitable society. It's a question that's

28:00

haunted the humans since they started

28:03

being people. But the other

28:05

issue here, you know, you're absolutely right. For

28:08

some bad faith actors, knowing

28:11

that people will not vote is

28:13

a tremendous power, especially when

28:16

added on to Jerry

28:18

Mandarin and other very unethical

28:20

practices.

28:22

However, mandatory to vote a lot of other countries.

28:24

Australia is one, Argentina,

28:26

Belgium, Olivia, Brazil, Congo

28:29

Costa Rica, a lot of places that we would

28:31

consider third world countries.

28:33

Quote unquote, you.

28:34

Know it's in cold war nomenclature.

28:36

I know, I'm just saying it's still thrown around.

28:38

But guys, imagine you're up there, you know

28:41

you're going, you're up for election, you control part

28:43

of the government. How do you how

28:46

do you ensure that those informed

28:48

people are informed in the right ways that you want

28:50

them to be. What if get past

28:52

it? I feel like we need something.

28:55

I don't know what it would be or what you would call it,

28:57

but like some form of separate

29:00

voting block of people

29:02

that takes the suggested vote

29:04

of all the other people and then

29:07

they set.

29:07

Learned collegiate type

29:12

never going to.

29:12

Work proxy votes. Let's take more

29:14

of the proxy situation.

29:17

Also. The other issue here, which I

29:19

believe you have quite astutely anticipated,

29:22

Scooch, is that we

29:24

cannot return to the days of

29:27

pulling test. We cannot

29:31

practice that. Sorry, it's a

29:34

look. If everybody was nice

29:36

and acting in good faith, then that would

29:38

be fine. It would be amazing

29:41

if people had the time and

29:43

the opportunity and the impetus to

29:46

research the specific issues

29:48

that they're voting on. But to be quite honest

29:50

with you, many times in the United

29:52

States, someone goes into do their

29:54

bit right, their their civic duty, and

29:56

they vote, and they know a

29:58

couple of the questions that they want to weigh

30:01

in on, and then they get hit with all these

30:03

other weird questions, often phrased

30:06

in misleading ways. Do

30:08

you not approve of a following

30:11

tax relief for small

30:13

maritime craft if it is

30:15

added to a municipal tax totally

30:17

the final thing subdivided over the seventeen

30:20

years, And then you're like, bro, you

30:23

think about the last time you saw a boat.

30:25

The ones among us who do all

30:27

the homework possible still

30:30

get thrown by those kinds

30:32

of questions. You think you're going in

30:34

fully, you know, educated,

30:36

ready to exercise your civic duty,

30:38

and then you every time, we'll get a handful

30:41

of these WTF moments where you're like,

30:43

I think this is right, but

30:45

sometimes it's worded in a way

30:47

that's borderline intended to

30:49

trick.

30:50

Decision trium, you know what I mean. Hit the

30:52

electorate with a semi colon just in

30:54

the middle of the question.

30:56

Just right in Kanye West.

30:57

That's what I do, or what

31:00

my best friend and I have done for many

31:02

years. And write your palin

31:05

for a local municipal

31:07

position that you do not understand. Shout

31:10

out, Corey Oliver, give me a comptroller

31:12

one day.

31:13

No man only just figured out

31:15

what a controller actually does.

31:18

It took us a while.

31:20

I could see Corey being a great comptroller.

31:23

I got the gift to gab that's for sure.

31:25

Is that necessary for comptroller.

31:30

Number one thing?

31:31

But we seriously, we like

31:33

parliamentarian, we cannot overemphasize,

31:36

uh, the the importance of

31:38

not returning to polling tests. They

31:41

have historically, at least in this

31:43

country, only been used

31:46

to disenfranchise people. And

31:49

we also, I

31:51

don't know, I'm still on the fence about

31:54

forcing citizens to vote. I

31:56

think it's worth a shot, Like you

31:58

said, Noel, it has, it

32:00

has worked in other countries. But then

32:02

also you run the we

32:05

run the possibility the risk of capturing

32:09

blocks of voters and sending them

32:11

in to vote, not their

32:13

conscience, but to vote on their marching

32:15

orders. You know, that's already a problem

32:17

here. What happens when people

32:20

have to vote and they just say, someone

32:22

tell me what to do, don't make me think about

32:24

it.

32:25

Well, I think that was exactly

32:28

a shot in the arm that we needed from

32:31

gp GGP Scooch. So

32:34

thank you very very much for the email

32:36

itself and for you know, giving

32:39

us such a great jumping off point for this conversation.

32:41

I do think I don't know man mandatory

32:44

voting. The more I think about it is, the more

32:46

like all of the things that we just discussed, there

32:48

might be an episode in there somewhere, you

32:50

know. I mean, it's certainly something that we've talked about in

32:53

the past, but there might be a way of getting

32:55

into this, you know, once election season comes

32:57

around, you know, to kind of explore

32:59

some of the more niche

33:01

ins and outs of the history of why

33:04

is voting in this country the way that it is?

33:07

Tell you what, let's vote about it off

33:09

here?

33:09

Oh and why do I always experience

33:12

voters remorse? You know what I mean? Is

33:14

that a thing? Yeah? I think it is okay.

33:16

It's like buyer's remorse, but it's like after

33:19

you vote it and you're like, ah, dang it.

33:21

Oh yeah, Well, it's sort of like that moment, like the opposite

33:23

of deja vu. It's the French concept of the spirit

33:26

of the staircase, the moment you've you've

33:28

not said the smart thing and you're gone.

33:31

Then you come up with the smartest possible thing.

33:33

But it's totally too late.

33:35

I should have said that lawyer was working pro boner.

33:40

Let's take a quick pause and come up with some

33:42

more spirit of the staircase

33:45

zingers that we can have in our back pocket,

33:47

and then we'll be back with another piece of listener

33:49

mail.

33:57

And we have returned to the

33:59

listener mail, and a wholesome letter

34:01

from home. Our listener

34:03

mail here comes from Jay Connor,

34:05

who says, hello, my gents,

34:07

with a zee. You may call me Jay Connor,

34:10

longtime listener, longtime fan. As

34:12

the Western public is distracted by Taylor

34:15

Swift and the multiple wars in the East,

34:17

major breakthroughs in technology continued

34:20

to be made, Advances that will change

34:22

our society and flip the world economy

34:25

upside down. I'm sure more

34:27

people would care that twenty

34:29

percent of jobs will be affected by AI

34:31

and automation by twenty thirty five and

34:33

fifty percent of jobs by twenty fifty

34:36

if we were not conveniently oversaturated

34:39

with information on a daily basis,

34:42

or the public understood predetermined

34:45

media celebrity fawning amplified

34:48

non critical issues and controversies,

34:50

and you know, world incidents

34:52

are sometimes timed to correspond

34:55

with technological revelations

34:57

or more commonly, a divulge of

34:59

information damaging to the interest

35:02

of whichever respective ruling establishment.

35:04

To break that down and saying

35:07

celebrity celebrity

35:10

like hubbubs, you know,

35:12

Taylor Swift, discourse, Drake

35:15

getting slapped by k dot and the

35:18

latest in the latest hip hop beef

35:20

Team k Dot. By the way,

35:22

what he's saying is sometimes

35:25

this occurs such that

35:27

other things can slide under

35:29

the radar, just like that new Manta

35:33

drone out there water

35:36

and they're asking you to look

35:38

at the right hand and pay no attention to

35:40

the left. And I think that's something we can

35:42

agree with on this show, right, would you say that

35:44

happens?

35:45

How about this? To my perception, it

35:48

happens all the time. That

35:50

doesn't mean it is purposefully done,

35:53

right, because you would have in

35:55

order to prove that, you would have to actually make

35:57

those connections that seem so like

35:59

obvious, right, But there's

36:01

no actual connective tissue other

36:04

than you know, oh well, we

36:06

know about it.

36:07

Well, I'm wearing

36:09

a trucker hat today and I'm like, we know

36:11

what's going on.

36:12

That's an awesome trucker hat too.

36:15

Shout out to our pal for the locals

36:17

number four, our buddy Harold so

36:20

the true mayor of Atlanta's side. J

36:23

Connor continues, it's hard

36:25

for the average person to fathom how

36:27

fast AI is improving,

36:30

or to truly ponder the implications of

36:32

now living in a world with text to photo

36:34

and text to video prompt programs

36:37

that only corporations and governments have

36:39

access to. It's even harder to care

36:41

when your tax dollars are being used to drop

36:44

bombs in Gaza. But I digress.

36:47

No, my fellow chums, I'm here

36:49

to inform you and show you this new

36:51

reality we live in, one where

36:54

AI has been proven in the laboratory.

36:56

I want to say laboratory at this point. Doorady

37:00

to have the capabilities to dundunt

37:03

read minds, or if

37:06

I were to phrase it more professionally

37:08

to quote decode brain

37:10

waves into communicative text

37:13

end quote. Oh, says

37:15

Jake Connor. But it doesn't stop there.

37:18

My friends meta formally

37:20

Facebook, Yeah, we're aware, has

37:22

announced that they have not only proven AI

37:24

can read minds, but it can also

37:26

illustrate what you are thinking. Yes,

37:29

a literal picture. Let's

37:31

stop there, because we

37:33

have talked about this recently,

37:36

Matt. You brought this story not too

37:38

too long ago about some of

37:40

the first legislation to

37:43

protect brain waves. If

37:45

I'm am I oversimplifying out of Colorado.

37:48

Uh no, not at all, to

37:51

protect essentially the intellectual

37:53

property that are your thoughts.

37:56

We go, nothing weird, So.

38:00

You check out.

38:00

I'm sure you already know about this, Jay, but

38:02

for everybody else, if you miss that one, check

38:05

it out. It's an interesting case of

38:07

legislation attempting to

38:09

be proactive, right to

38:12

set the lay of the land for future

38:14

inevitable technological progress.

38:17

This is something we didn't talk about, or at least a connection we

38:19

didn't make in that discussion as a connection

38:21

to and I think a bridge is our AI discussion

38:23

here. The way, these large language

38:25

learning models or whatever what are they called,

38:28

the aims the things that we call

38:31

AI nowadays.

38:32

Okay, the way I'm learning, let's say it that

38:34

w Yeah.

38:35

The way many of them were originally developed, it was

38:37

by just taking up any and all

38:39

information that was available, right, And

38:42

we've learned over the past couple of weeks

38:44

and rough well months, some

38:46

of the loopholes, legal

38:49

loopholes, and legal bending

38:52

that was occurring when

38:54

those things were developed, where basically

38:57

copyright law was just kind of ignored

38:59

in order to make sure there was enough

39:01

stuff to develop several of these And

39:04

we've learned that from the words of the attorneys

39:06

themselves, who were kind of instructed to

39:09

ignore some of that stuff.

39:11

Some real forgiveness versus permission

39:13

rational.

39:14

Yes, which makes you think about what

39:16

happens when brain waves are now

39:19

accessible to people, and

39:21

what types of legal loopholes and

39:23

legal bending will occur when that stuff's

39:26

just being sucked up into the cloud and

39:28

it's your brain thoughts, your

39:30

meat, your meat, murmurings

39:32

like what happens. I'm

39:35

just saying, it's your first.

39:36

And last refuge. The last thing that was

39:38

Sack was saying, look, I'm not here to call

39:40

anybody out, but Matt Noel,

39:43

Paul fellow conspiracy realist Doc

39:45

too. Every single person you've

39:47

ever met has thought of some

39:50

crazy things and the differences

39:52

they did not necessarily act on

39:54

those. This, I would argue,

39:57

this gets us very close to a

39:59

war world of pre crime, right

40:02

and incorrectly predictive things.

40:05

If you are hearing this now, you

40:07

have, to one degree or another, you've

40:10

thought about killing somebody. You maybe

40:12

haven't planned it out, but we've all had

40:14

that what if moment. You've been on the road

40:16

and you thought, eh, what if I just

40:19

tilt the wheel just a little bit?

40:20

You know, Yeah, it makes me think of the three body

40:23

problem. I wouldn't want to spoil it

40:25

too much. But there's a position

40:28

that's created within that world. It's

40:30

called a what is it a wall? Wallfacers

40:37

people who specifically develop plans

40:39

in the darkened room that is their

40:42

brain. They don't tell anybody about those plans

40:44

and their ideas, but they develop

40:46

these things in their own mind, and

40:49

eventually those plans

40:51

are spilled and get deployed. Right, no

40:54

more, there, no more of that. Somebody

40:56

actually, you know when it's a think tank,

40:58

now it's a I don't

41:00

know, cloud tank thought thing.

41:03

I think, I think it's also a

41:05

great violation of human

41:08

rights, you know, or the rights

41:10

of a thing that thinks. To

41:12

be quite clear, you should

41:14

be able to evaluate

41:17

the world with at least some

41:19

shred of sanctuary,

41:22

some kind of internal safe

41:24

place, you know what I mean.

41:26

Because that's the way we think about it now.

41:29

Right, right, you know? But are

41:31

we not thinking things? Do

41:34

we not have the right to think the things

41:36

that we think? This gets

41:38

close to again, decision

41:41

treeing thought, which is a very

41:43

dangerous proposition, right, And

41:45

it's the kind of gun that

41:47

fires in both directions. There

41:49

is no one in that conversation who

41:52

will not somehow become a victim of

41:54

such a mad pursuit. Now,

41:56

of course, apologies,

41:59

Jay, We're going to we're gonna summarize

42:02

some of your email, which is fantastic

42:04

for time. We want to get to something

42:07

that you pointed out after a pretty

42:10

top notch explanation of the brain

42:12

as biological computer, which

42:14

absolutely nailed by the way you have

42:16

shared what we were talking about

42:19

the creation of something like

42:21

telepathy, and you didn't

42:23

go into any skullduggree. And I think this

42:26

is like I think this is what Jay is

42:29

shouting into the void and into the

42:31

rooftops Now Meta

42:33

has extensive research on this topic.

42:35

You can read about it at least their public

42:38

facing stuff on AI dot Meta

42:40

dot com, go to blog aispeech

42:43

and brain activity. This contains

42:46

video content. This also

42:49

contains summarizations

42:51

of their studies and ongoing research.

42:54

It is directly on their website, as j points

42:57

out, which prompts Jay to call

42:59

this a so open secret. Yet very

43:01

few know about what's going on in

43:03

these laboratories. It scares

43:06

me sometimes how fast technology is progressing,

43:09

unbeknownst to much of

43:11

the world. And I'd

43:13

like to give everybody a quote from the

43:15

website that Jay shared with

43:17

us. This is from August thirty first, twenty

43:20

twenty two, so more than a year

43:22

has passed at this point. Meta

43:25

FKA Facebook says every

43:27

year, more than sixty nine million

43:30

people around the world suffer traumatic

43:32

brain injury, which leaves many

43:34

of them unable to communicate through speech,

43:36

typing or gestures. These people's

43:39

lives could dramatically improve if researchers

43:42

develop a technology to decode language

43:44

directly from You'll love this non

43:47

invasive brain recordings. Today

43:49

we're sharing research. It takes a step towards

43:52

this goal. We've developed an AI model

43:54

that can decode speech from again

43:57

non invasive recordings of brain

43:59

activity. And they

44:01

go through just how

44:04

far they've gotten through this methodology,

44:08

case test and all

44:10

of this. All of this leads

44:12

Jay to cite some University

44:15

of Texas semantic info, brainwaves

44:17

AI research, some pieces

44:20

from CNN, MSNBC, and

44:22

Jay says, I'll leave it there. I'll

44:24

let you go down the rest of the rabbit hole yourselves

44:27

ponder the possibilities, like, if

44:30

you built a sensor strong enough,

44:32

could you capture brain waves meters

44:35

away and read minds at

44:37

a distance? Could we build

44:40

telepathy? I'm pretty sure at this point

44:42

the answer is yes. I don't know.

44:44

Jay got to me, I can't wait for telepathy,

44:46

man, it'll be like that story Noah was

44:49

talking about where you can walk through with the

44:51

card reader and was about to say, get everybody's

44:53

credit cards. Man, No sick.

44:55

We were talking about that legislation that just came

44:57

through, I believe in Colorado where they're trying

44:59

to prot you know, the infiltration

45:02

of our minds man, you know, to

45:04

get our personal data.

45:06

Or IP or whatever that is.

45:08

Telepathy, you know that's technologically

45:10

enhanced or you know created

45:12

telepathy, and

45:16

it's coming, y'all.

45:17

Do you think it is?

45:19

It's just not public yet. I'm sure,

45:22

but Jay concludes, I mean, in fifty

45:24

years, when the state sponsor drone the patrols

45:27

my neighborhood flies by to protect my thoughts

45:29

from its mind to coding sensors and software,

45:32

the most efficient and practical defense against

45:34

it would be to put on

45:36

my tinfoil hat. Maybe,

45:39

man, but check out our tinfoil hat

45:41

episode.

45:42

We know you did.

45:43

You have to encase the entire biological

45:46

machine. You know what I mean, a future

45:48

of hazmat suits.

45:50

We just need far day cage domossiles.

45:53

Yeah, let's be get the

45:55

new hip hop flex you know what I mean,

45:58

forget the role x me.

46:00

I wonder if you could build a Wi Fi chamber,

46:02

like a Faraday house right that

46:05

has a Wi Fi chamber that allows

46:07

the Wi Fi to go through that chamber in directly

46:10

to a device, and

46:12

you could plug in to your modular

46:15

wall. These tubes allow

46:19

it would be like having cables. This

46:21

guy plug it into this.

46:26

Is showing Nola is showing

46:28

a cavalcade of cables.

46:29

Well, it's a modular it's my modular

46:31

wall. What I'm what I'm imagining

46:34

is a modular Internet.

46:36

Oh wait, this is I'm literally describing

46:39

a router and an old one to them,

46:41

you're also described.

46:42

I mean, if you've ever been in a server room or

46:45

you know, one of those massive server farms,

46:47

that's all modular as well. Each one

46:49

of those drives that creates

46:51

the Internet is a slotted thing

46:54

that's physically installed somewhere and

46:56

then patch together with other stuff.

46:58

I just also, you know, for anybody

47:01

who's been through it, I find there's

47:03

a subreddit called oddly

47:06

uh satisfying or something like that,

47:09

and they have a lot of cable management

47:11

pictures for someone bringing

47:13

order from the chaos.

47:14

Totally.

47:15

It's just somehow reassuring. You know, I can't

47:17

even see the colors, and I'm just like, look

47:19

at that.

47:20

You can't exactly do that with the modular because

47:22

it's meant to be you know, put in and then reset.

47:25

So if you did cable management, that's for stuff that like stays

47:27

connected all the time by nature,

47:30

you're bringing order to the chaos.

47:31

By just hooking it up correctly like

47:34

that. I just want a lack of clutter.

47:36

I like clean things.

47:38

Agree that's nice, man, But think about

47:40

the data clutter. That's like hitting

47:42

there with waves.

47:43

Right.

47:46

You can't see it, but it's there. I'm

47:48

saying, let's start the wired movement

47:51

again. Let's get it back all wired

47:53

technology. That's it

47:55

WI Yeah, dude, let's

47:57

do it.

47:58

Also, also, this is uh, this

48:00

is funny. This is making me think of the

48:02

idea of getting a report

48:05

card for your thoughts, maybe

48:07

around the time you pay your taxies. It's like, here's

48:09

the percentage of times that you had

48:12

aberrant imaginings.

48:14

Oh no, have you guys ever

48:16

owned a car that you're driving.

48:20

Yes, I will. I've participated

48:22

them, but I refuse to own one.

48:24

Okay, So my car

48:26

had that where you literally get a report

48:28

card that is monitoring everything you

48:30

have done in that vehicle for

48:33

the entirety that you've been driving it. And it was

48:35

like, Bro, you got a sixty eight. I'm sorry,

48:37

you need to slow down, take those

48:40

corners a little better, make sure

48:42

you're signaling, which I am, because the

48:44

dang thing thinks that I'm changing

48:46

lanes when they've got painting. The painting

48:48

on the lanes is wrong or they've done

48:51

I take umbrance. Is that the word? Yea? I

48:54

take umbrage with this, but

48:56

anyway, just it's creepy to think of that

48:59

as you're saying, saying been applied to if

49:01

you could open up the terminal of your mind

49:04

and just see everything that's

49:06

happening.

49:07

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if humans are

49:09

ready for that level of cybernetic

49:12

integration, and

49:14

we don't know what the world will look like

49:17

at that time. It's

49:19

fascinating stuff, it's worrying.

49:21

It is arguably inevitable

49:24

on some level. And listen, when

49:26

this kind of stuff is rolled

49:29

out or message to the public, it

49:32

always comes in glowing

49:35

terms, right, in very happy

49:38

futuristic optimist terms. Right,

49:40

we're going to we're going to help

49:42

people with TBI, which

49:44

is true, that part is true.

49:47

But also we have to ask about the other

49:49

side of this. Because technology knows

49:51

no ideological

49:54

dilemmas, right, it knows only

49:57

the ethics of its creators. Is

50:00

scary thing. It's one of the big problems with AI. Now

50:03

write to us. We want to hear your thoughts about

50:05

it before we end, because

50:07

that is kind of a trippy thing. We

50:09

want to thank everybody's written

50:11

to us. We also want to give

50:14

a special shout out to talks

50:16

who hipped us to a

50:18

very wholesome conspiracy from

50:21

the world of education. There is our letter

50:23

from home. Hi guys, longtime

50:25

listener, but have never wrote

50:27

in until now thought you all might want

50:29

to know about an active conspiracy going

50:32

on in my little public pre k

50:34

through twelve rural school. Rural

50:38

school. I work

50:40

at the school that as one hundred kids from

50:43

pre kindergarten to twelfth

50:45

grade. Class sizes range from

50:47

ten to one. Just like every other place

50:49

deals with small children. We also have

50:51

the notorious stomach ache that comes

50:53

around when students don't want to work

50:56

time. Is that a thing?

50:58

Oh gosh, yes, Actually,

51:00

you know, I think it might have become a little

51:02

bit more headaches now with the

51:05

gen Z kids and their anxiety

51:08

and neuroses, I think a headache might

51:10

be more popular. But definitely the legacy

51:12

thing was my term to a.

51:14

Little mo lingering. Right, So

51:17

okay, so Talks

51:19

says, be to school. We have very strict

51:22

regulations on medications being given

51:24

to students. That's a good thing. I

51:27

am one, says talks of only three

51:29

people in the district that's allowed

51:31

to administer medication. Most

51:33

schools, when they run into tummy trouble

51:36

or as you said, no headaches without

51:38

any accompanying visible symptoms.

51:40

They rely on letting kids have a five

51:42

to ten minute rest in the nurse's office

51:45

before returning to class. My school

51:47

has found a way around this, however. Peppermint

51:50

candy. Yes, the red and white

51:52

striped candy is our answer to every

51:54

excuse. The nice thing is because

51:56

of the peppermint extract. It does help

51:59

mild nausea. Being a heart candy,

52:01

it provides some relief to scratchy throats and coughs.

52:04

Because these are candy and not actually

52:06

treating anything, shout out to our supplements

52:08

episode we can give them to the kids.

52:11

The older kids have figured out the grift, but still

52:14

swing by the office for a mint now and

52:16

then. Thanks for all

52:18

you guys do you keep me company on my drive

52:21

every day. I think somebody got

52:23

me with this when I was younger. I

52:25

think some I think I got pepperminted.

52:27

I mean it can you know there might be a placebo

52:29

effect involved as well, but peppermint

52:32

does have some stomach

52:34

calming sure properties.

52:37

You know, peppermint's great. I just think

52:39

it's We wrote back to

52:41

Tonks and just said, you know, there's one of our favorite

52:44

wholesome childhood conspiracies

52:46

up there with Santa Claus. Spoiler alert,

52:48

everybody nop uh,

52:51

Big Claws is shutting us down, guys,

52:53

Operation jingle Bells and full Fast. We got

52:55

to go thanks to a tonks

52:58

plant Queen GP Scooch, J Connor

53:00

everybody else. This has been a fun

53:02

one, huh.

53:03

I agree. I just realized that peppermint

53:05

myself all the time when I reach for a

53:07

stick of gum or something, you know

53:09

that's just peppermin flavor and I'm like, oh, well, peppermint.

53:14

Or sharper right, stay frosty by

53:16

friends? Was

53:18

that the Dosakis guy, Stay

53:21

thirsty, stay interesting.

53:23

He's the most the most interesting, the.

53:25

Most interesting, dude, I think he says,

53:27

stay thirsty.

53:28

I think you might be right.

53:29

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