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I Heart three D audio from
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UFOs to psychic powers and government
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conspiracies. History is riddled
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with unexplained events. You can
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turn back now or learn
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the stuff they don't want you to know. A
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production of I Heart Radio. Hello,
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welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
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name is Noel Day, called me Ben. We're
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joined as always with our superproducer
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Alexis Code being Doc Holiday Jackson.
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Most importantly, you are you.
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You are here, and that makes this stuff
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they don't want you to know. This
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is one of the
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weirdest journeys we
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have gone on, certainly in the last
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few years. We're really excited
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to to bring this to
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you. Um. We may have teased it a
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little bit obliquely, but all
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of us, everybody on the team has been
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working assiduously
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to not spill the beans until
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now when you're hearing this. And please
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understand, fellow conspiracy realists, we're
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people who are literally paid to talk. So
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this was, guys, this was an
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achievement on our part. Don't you think it
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was tough to to be so ameerta
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about it. But I'm really proud of
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us, you guys, I'm really proud of I'm especially
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proud of you Ben,
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and you Matt for your amazing contributions
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to this thing we're about to hear. Ben turns
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in a tour Toforce performance as the subject
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of a CIA experiment
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of sorts, and Matt also
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plays a character but absolutely crushed
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it with the sound design in this incredibly
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fun and immersive three D audio
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sketch. What do you even call it? It's a scene. It's
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kind of a work of art, guys, it's a true story.
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This is a historical reenactment based
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on a Freedom of Information Act
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request. Uh, this is
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really u you know, and I don't
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want to put you guys on the spot, but yeah,
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the romance went to another level
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on this one. I am so profoundly
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impressed. H This is in many
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ways Matt Frederick's baby,
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um and Noel, all the music
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you hear is indeed our own Noel
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Brown. Uh.
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I'm kind of along for the ride, but
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it's it's like, I don't want to hype it too
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much. Listen, listen
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when you when you're when you're hearing this, you
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here been saying those things about how
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everybody else did stuff. Ben takes us
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on this journey, so you just hold on hold
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on to your seats, strap in
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make sure the car seat
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is connected to the actual car, because you
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know that's why they make those straps there.
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It's really for safety. But most
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importantly, strap some headphones
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into your noggin. That is crucial to
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get the full effect. I did the music
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while listening to them
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to the thing that Matt had geniusly
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soundscaped in this amazing three D immersive
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way. And it's crazy how with just like two
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sources left and the right headphone
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you get all these incredible three
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effects and it really is kind of chilling.
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Um and having that in my ear as while I was blips
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blipping and blooping on my synthesizers made
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it all the more fun. And I think what
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I think, what we're all saying now is,
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uh, it's funny because we have these big
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grins on our faces. If you enjoy hearing
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this a fraction, like a miniscule
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sliver, as much as we enjoyed making
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it, uh, then we are going
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to be over the mooning brateful without
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further ado because we did promise ourselves
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we wouldn't spoil it. Travel with
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us to an undisclosed location.
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H m
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hmm. This
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is remote viewing session. The
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date is May twenty s The
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time is ten o nine am Pacific.
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Subject is Joseph. Session
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is being monitored by Robert. Both
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subject and monitor are unaware of
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the target. Okay,
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being the session, all right,
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now, using the information in the envelope
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I've provided exclusively focusing your attention
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now quality
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nine NONU.
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I want to see it looks like I
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don't know, he's sort of looks I
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kind of got an oblique view of
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pyramid or pyramid form.
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It's very high. It's kind of sitting
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in a large
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depressed area. Okay,
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it's yellowish
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oprah colored. A little
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time top agent about
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blogic and describe it. I'm
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tracking severe severe
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clouds more like dust storm.
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It's a it's a geologic problem.
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It seems to be like a
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just a minute, I've I've got to iron this
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out. It's really weird just
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for word of raw processions at this
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time so early,
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I'm looking at at
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a after effect
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of the major geologic problem.
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Okay, go back at
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the time before the geost raw
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m total
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difference. It's uh
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before there's no I
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don't know how It's like
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mountains of dirt appear
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and then disappear when you go before.
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I see a large
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flat surfaces, very
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smooth angles, walls.
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They're really large though, I mean they're
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megalithic. It's
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this very good time now beforetik
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around and then around this area.
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Let's see and I'm
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seeing. Uh, it's
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it's like a perception of
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a shadow of people, very
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tall, thin. It's
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only a shadow. It's not as if they were
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there, and they're not not not
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there anymore, go back the period
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of time real they are. It's
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like I get a lot of static on
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the line and everything. It's it's breaking
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up all the time, very fragmentary
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pieces don't have put together,
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just a cord the rod.
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Here. I just keep seeing
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very large people. They
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appear thin and tall, but
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they're very large and wearing
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some kind of strange blues. Holy
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side, Holy oh
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for this location says a
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lot of this location, but this
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move now to forty six four
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five three piece
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good top forty says go
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for three deep
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inside of the cabin, not
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a cabin, more like a canyon. I'm
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I'm looking up up
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the side of the steep wall that seems
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to go on forever, and
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there's like a structure
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with a it's
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like the wall of the canyon itself has
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been carved again. I'm
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getting very large structures.
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No, no
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intricacy, it's just a huge sections
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of steam stone in
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size size. Yes,
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yes, they're they're very heavy. It's like
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a rabbit board, corners of rooms.
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They're they're really huge. I
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don't feel like I'm standing
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in one. It's just really huge.
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Perception is that the ceiling
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is very high, the walls are very
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wide. Time stamp is real
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time plus twenty two minutes. Yes, that would
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be correct. All right, I'd
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like to move now out to another location nearby this
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time forty five one three
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four wells at
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the same time forty five freezing
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before they
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have a appears
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to be the end of a very large
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road, and there's a marker
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thing that's very large. Keep
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getting Washington Monument
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overlaid. It's it's like an obelisk
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that's moving
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out five we probably long two
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thirty forty
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five four.
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It's like I'm in the middle of
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a huge circular basin of
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the Range mountains by almost
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only around very ragged,
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ragged mountain. It's very tall basins,
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very very very large
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scale. Seems to be off or something
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it's just it's really big. Everything's
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big. The
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clusters squares up and down.
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Um, it's like you want
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to make them square anyway. They're
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they're almost flush with the ground, and it's
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like they're connected something
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very white or reflects light
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observations. The state flop.
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I'm amid oblique
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left angle. Sun is the
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sun as we're here, back
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out of the ground, just
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as fas just a little bit as
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fasse thirty four s
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very now las
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very far. It's
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like I can just receive I
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go a radiating pattern of some kind.
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It's it's like some really strange
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intersecting kind of roads
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just dug into valleys, you
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know where where rude is just a little
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blue. The edge, they're
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like real neat channel
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cuts. They're very deep. It's
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like the road wind down trick
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your readings. He's pulling back. Okay, now
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I've I've noticed electrically you
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are nulled out a little bit, and I want you to
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stay deep and recapture your focus.
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Here. It's
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really tough. It seems
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like it's just always very sporadic.
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It's very important take the
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focus. I have exercise.
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It's in semable business wag. It's
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a whole those stop meta
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top fatiform and
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now pickings on
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my horizons. Takes
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time and get back see
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the um intersecting
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whatever. These are aqueduct
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type things, these rounded
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bottom carved channels like road
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beds. See see
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pointed tops of something on the
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horizon, even and the horizon.
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It's funny and weird. It's like a different
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misty, like it's really
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far away, very vague.
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Okay, angry
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for now,
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Angry for
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I see pyramids. I
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can't tell that's overly or not because
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they're different.
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Okay, parents
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had the size and houses. M
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hmm, gotta both and
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they're huge. He's
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losing his ability to move accurately. Agreed.
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It's really it's
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attracted to things that are interesting. It's an
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interesting perception and getting
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should we abandon the targets. It's
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filtered from storms
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or something. Repeat that they're
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like shelters from storms,
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these structures you're seeing. Yes, they're
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designed for that. All right, go
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and side one of these and find some activity
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to tell me about time code plus thirty
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seven minutes real time. Different
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chambers, but they're almost
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stripped of any kind of furnishings
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or anything. It's like a strictly
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functional place for sleeping or
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it's not a good word. Hibernations
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in some form. I can't I
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get real raw input, storms,
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savage storms, sleeping
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through storms, make
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contact. Tell me about
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the ones who sleep through the storms. Very
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tall again, very large
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people, but they're thin. They
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look thin because of their height, and they dress
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like in hell.
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It's not it's like a real
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light silk, but it's it's
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not flowing topic clothings.
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It's eats cut to fit
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about. They're
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ancient people. They're
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they're dying it's
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past the time, or they're age
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as. They're
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very philosophic about it. They're looking
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for the
15:30
latest survival and they
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just can't. I can't can't
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seem to get their way out. Don't go to plus
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forty minutes definite voltage reversal.
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They can't seem to find their way
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out. So they're
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hanging on while they look
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for while
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they wait for something to return,
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something coming with the answer hard
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they're uh. Evidently
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was a group or
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a party of them that went to find a new
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place to live. It's it's like I'm
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getting all kinds of overwhelming
16:13
into it of the corruption
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of their environment. It's fairly very
16:19
rapidly, and this group went somewhere
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like a long way to find
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another place to live, almost
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cause sels
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sels, I see
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a picture of a picture
16:37
like, oh
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hell, it's almost a warp
16:42
in a Oh
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god, this is difficult. It's
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it's like I
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get a globe. It's
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like a globe that goes through
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a comic table or something.
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Thing. But it's it's all very cosmic.
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It's like space pictures. Ah
17:05
h, now pass
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as there's any
17:10
way. Also, he
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knows who you are? And
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then how depressings.
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All I get is that they must just wait.
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It doesn't know who I am. I
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think he perceives of a hallucination.
17:33
Last last
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how getting
17:41
impression of a
17:46
double bout what the heck it is? It looks
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like the inside of a larger
17:50
boat, very rounded walls
17:53
and shining metal. Not
17:55
how where go
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along with them in their journey and find out where
18:00
they go? Impression
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really crazy place, volcanoes,
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gas pockets, strange plants
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and very volatile place.
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It's it's very much like going from
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the frying pan into the fire.
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Differences that there seems to be a lot of
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vegetation where the other place
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didn't have it, and different
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kind of storm remote
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viewing session with subject
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real time plus forty six minutes confirmation.
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Congratulations, Now bring
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them home. Oh awesome.
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Now back to the room, back
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to the sound of my voice. Back
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further now to the sound of
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my voice. On the two
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of May, the
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method of site acquisition was a sealed
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envelope. It was coupled with geographic
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coordinates given by the monitor. The
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field envelope was given to the subject immediately
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prior to the session. The
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envelope was not opened until
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after the session. Inside
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the envelope was a three by five
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card with the following information
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the planet Mars time of
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interest approximately one million
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years BC. So
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wait, so we've
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talked about this, this all actually
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happens, well almost
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all of it. There's one thing
20:19
that we have to tell you about that we did
20:22
in the transcript that you
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could at one point find, I believe on
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the CIA's website or maybe the FBI was
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actually hosting it. It was a c I A request.
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We got ahold of the transcript a long time ago,
20:35
and then it got taken down and we had to find
20:37
it again through the wayback machine. But
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it's available online and you could you've
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probably heard of it before it's an actual
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transcript and it only contains two people,
20:46
a subject and a monitor. So
20:48
in this case, what you were listening to Ben's
20:51
character and Noel's character. I
20:53
of course had to insert myself in here somehow,
20:58
So we made up a supervisor
21:00
character that says mostly
21:04
I guess the lines if you will, that
21:06
we're coming from the monitor, because
21:09
there are points in the transcript where it
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mentions that some of the
21:14
things the monitor states in the transcript
21:16
are not heard by the
21:18
subject. So in
21:21
our minds, we imagined this person
21:23
in another room with a microphone that
21:25
that he could turn on or turn
21:28
off to where he could dictate some things without
21:30
the subject hearing them. Yeah. Yeah,
21:33
and this, uh, this also the
21:35
lines that you hear when you say
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it's a true story, it's all pulled directly from
21:39
that transcript. Of course. Uh,
21:42
the CIA has nothing on us when it comes
21:44
to sound design and soundtracking. I think that is
21:47
clear now in compositions. But
21:49
the well, they did some great work in the sixties.
21:52
Okay, that part's true. But this
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the one thing that I think changes
21:57
a little bit is that twist
21:59
that yet, right, Matt, That's that's the only big
22:02
like textual change. But even
22:05
that is verbatim from
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this actual transcript. It is
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a true story. Uh. The CIA
22:14
really did attempt to work
22:16
with what they called psycho energetics.
22:20
Uh. They defined this as a mental process
22:23
by which an individual perceives, communicates
22:25
with, and or perturbs
22:27
characteristics of a designated
22:30
target person or events remote
22:32
in space and or time from that individual.
22:35
That makes me think this is absolutely
22:37
legit, because only Uncle Sam could
22:39
write about such an exciting thing in such
22:42
a dry and boring way and
22:45
get that word perturb in there. I mean, why not
22:48
see and
22:53
um oh man, I completely
22:55
didn't finish my thought there. I'm so sorry
22:58
you guys. Um So, the supervisor
23:00
character that you hear from me is actually the monitor,
23:02
and it's actually
23:05
in the transcript. There are like two
23:07
lines I think that I added one
23:09
in particular at the very end where I say
23:12
confirmed, let's bring him home. That
23:15
is completely made up. That's
23:17
just I don't know, a fun imagining of
23:19
what it could be. But that's how adaptation
23:22
works, you know. Uh. So
23:24
this experiment just for background, if you want
23:26
to go back and listen again. Uh.
23:29
The way they did it is that
23:32
they they had a sealed envelope,
23:35
and in the sealed envelope there would be a little
23:37
index card like a three by five that
23:39
you might have used to study in school. And
23:42
this had a very simple three line
23:44
message. It just said the planet
23:47
Mars time of interest approximately
23:50
one million years BC. That's
23:53
right, that's right, And
23:56
just the descriptions that were given by
23:59
This is what I'm assuming, and I don't know if this is
24:01
fully correct. This is what we're all assuming here. We
24:04
found a video of a man named
24:06
Joe McGonagall who stayed in two thousand
24:08
and four that he was the person doing
24:11
this remote viewing session. He was the subject,
24:13
so he was ben essentially, and
24:16
he was working with Bob Monroe that we've
24:18
spoken about before on this show to make
24:20
this happen, as well as his supervisor, so
24:23
there were three people involved
24:25
in some way. Um, we
24:27
just don't have the full transcript, I guess, but
24:29
he he talks about exactly what the
24:32
experience was like. He says he was laying
24:35
in a dark black cube in
24:37
the lab, floating in a sea of salt,
24:39
so it sounds a lot like a sensory deprivation
24:42
chamber. He was listening to HEMI
24:44
sink tapes. That's
24:46
what Noel was inspired by when he created
24:49
the soundtrack here, or the score rather.
24:52
Yeah, just kind of like this sort of
24:54
weird filtered, kind of other
24:58
worldly kind of sound. And Matt,
25:00
the way you filtered the experientially,
25:04
you know, kind of took listeners from
25:06
the perspective of the subject,
25:09
Ben and kind of like bounce back and
25:11
forth into the room with the monitor.
25:14
Um. But I had a blast do in it. And like I said,
25:16
doing the I did that all in one pass while
25:19
listening to the things, so hopefully it ebbed and float
25:21
along with the performances.
25:23
I've really had a great time doing. I hope you guys enjoyed
25:25
it. Yeah, we sure, I hope you enjoyed
25:28
it. And also, you know, we should
25:30
mention our a lot of our Pure
25:32
podcasters because long time listeners,
25:34
you know that most of us are thickest
25:37
thieves, especially us who have been around for a while.
25:39
Um, a lot of our our Pure shows
25:42
are also doing
25:44
special three D episodes,
25:46
So if you enjoyed this, uh, please
25:49
check out any number of
25:51
other shows from your favorite shows on the
25:53
network will also be having three
25:56
D episodes this week. And Matt's
25:59
you An You Got any scoops on
26:02
ones that are on your radar in particular,
26:04
Well, I mean, I know for sure there's a Ridiculous
26:07
History three D episode because I recorded
26:09
it with you guys, and I got to
26:12
watch y'all be just ridiculous,
26:14
as the name states, with with
26:17
one of those three D O microphones
26:19
with the ears. It was quite fun to watch
26:21
an experience. So I can't wait to hear that one.
26:24
I'm sorry we're always polluting you into direct
26:26
stuff, but yes, thank you very much,
26:28
that is true. Uh, there's also
26:31
I believe Savor has one.
26:34
Both both our friends any recent
26:36
more in Vocalbam have appeared on the show before,
26:39
so it'll be familiar to you. Uh. And
26:42
stuff you should know is doing one stuff
26:44
you should yeah, with Josh and Chuck
26:47
and Jerry of course. And then uh,
26:50
while we're on the subject Ridiculous History,
26:52
just the plug you can hear our
26:54
very own Matt Frederick on a two
26:57
partner episode that came
26:59
out recently while was on a sojourn.
27:02
It's all about pointy shoes. Yeah
27:04
poutine. Oh no, no, I got it
27:06
wrong, Lane. But
27:11
but back to Mars, this is a true story
27:13
we have. We've interviewed people
27:15
in the space before. We've also done some deep
27:18
dives. We we just love
27:20
the audio of the Theater of the Mind. If
27:22
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