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It's Tuesday night at the Royal
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Vauxhall Tavern and the house
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is packed for bar whatever. A
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queer cabaret night in South London. On
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stage is Michael, the MC. Pink
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dress, big heels, even bigger wig.
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And we're here to talk with the crowd about
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words. One word actually, mucks. Oh,
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oh my god, I don't know, I can't count. Me and my partner both use mucks. At least
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five or six people in my mind. A couple people
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I know in their own head, they feel that
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way. There's
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so many people to count. I don't think
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it's become more popular, I think it's become
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more known. If
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mucks isn't that known to you, if
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you're wondering how to spell it, how
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to pronounce it, what exactly it means,
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well, you're not alone. From
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Quiet Juice and the Linguistic Society
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of America, this is Subtitle, stories
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about languages and the people who
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speak them. I'm Patrick Cox. So
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this word mucks, spelt M-X,
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it is more widely used in the UK
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than in the US. It's one of several
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words in use right now. Some will stick,
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some won't. Words that
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may just help us resolve a
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struggle over gender and sex and
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language that goes back centuries. We
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have two people reporting this episode,
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Leo Hornack and Nina Porzuki. Here's
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Nina. Mix
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isn't honorific like Mr., Mrs. and
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Ms., but it's designed to be
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gender neutral. And over in the
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UK... is
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that it tells you nothing about
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a person. It doesn't tell
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you their gender, it doesn't tell you their marital status,
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it doesn't tell you whether they've got
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any particular qualifications or not. In
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the widest possible sense it is for everyone.
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So how do you pronounce it? Mux or
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mix? Yeah, there
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is no standardised way. It's one
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of those things where the world
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keeps changing and different people
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say things in different ways. You might
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hear us use mux and mix
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interchangeably throughout the podcast. It's fair to say
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that mix is having a moment here in
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the UK. Shae's been tracking
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its rise in Britain over the last few years. Several
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banks have adopted the prefix. I think about
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half the banks, the
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large utility companies, certain
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parts of the National Health Service, the
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Royal Mail now recognises it, and
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in 2015 the British Parliament even
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voted to allow MPs to use
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the title. Though none of them have
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yet done so. Mix even entered the
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Oxford English Dictionary that same year, 2015.
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If mix sounds a bit foreign to your ears, Shae
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admits this gender neutral language is
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relatively new. Shae only
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started using it themselves in 2010.
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But it makes a huge difference to people's lives.
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You suddenly got people going, oh my god,
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this explains how I've always felt. As
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soon as the awareness is raised, then people
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