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Welcome to Succeed Even If. I'm Tom R.

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Kuh, the communications sage and spoken word strategist. And I'm Johanna.

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In this episode, we're talking about we are defiant giants.

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Now, the idea here is this. Perhaps in your life, there's some toxic people.

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Perhaps they might even be a family member, for example, and they're tearing

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you down. They're active. They're tearing you down. Other people just don't care.

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So they're tearing you down, but they're not doing it in an active way.

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So what you've got to be is defiant. You've got to push back against all this

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toxicity so that you can get things done and feel good about yourself and make

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a contribution to humankind.

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Now, Joanna, when have you felt that someone was trying to tear you down? I thought I had a friend.

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We were having a conversation about a particular subject, and apparently she

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didn't like that subject. And later, she just ghosted me.

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Oh, wow. That's intense. And this was someone you thought was a good friend?

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Yes, I thought we were pretty close. So that breaks your heart? It really hurt. Right. So here's the thing.

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At any time, someone in your circle can ghost you, step on you, step on your dreams.

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And what you have to have is a community, a tribe.

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And one of the things that we discover, and this is mentioned by a number of

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speakers and authors and even researchers, you really know who your friends

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are if they can celebrate with you. Yes.

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Because a lot of people, either they're jealous or they don't relate or they

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want to actively step on other people's heads. These are the narcissists.

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They cannot celebrate with someone else. They can't celebrate someone else's

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opportunity or success or rising up from a dark place. They can't celebrate.

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Our focus in this conversation is we are defiant giants.

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And when I say giant, I mean our spirit, our soul is giant.

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And we are defiant against all the people, whether they are active toxic people

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or they are just I don't care kind of people who don't show even just a little

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bit of courtesy or being polite. They can't even show that.

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They're all wrapped in their own thing. And it's amazing.

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I've been in situations where so many toxic people are there that once in a

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while, someone will say, oh, take your time. And that's like a light.

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Clouds have parted and light has come down just for a phrase, oh, take your time.

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In fact, what I would do is I would praise the person. I would say,

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oh, thank you for bringing great energy into this place.

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Here's the focus. It's about we are

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defiant giants. It's about we creating community or we creating a tribe.

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And our word is we in the first letter stands for wake up value.

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If you want to create a community and you want to be a part of a circle of people

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who are encouraging each other, celebrating each each other's victories,

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celebrating each other's blessings. Then you need to wake up value. That is, you need to bring value to other people.

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At one point on this very podcast, we had a guest, Bob Berg,

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and he is extraordinary. He has a best selling series called the Go-Giver Series, which he co-authored.

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And he joined our podcast.

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Now, how do you get someone to join you when you offer value?

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Obviously, he wanted to reach our listeners. And so he agreed to be interviewed

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and oh, it was just one of the beautiful, powerful opportunities to learn so much from a master.

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And it's about wake-up value. I'm so excited about that interview with Bob Berg

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that it's in my new book, The Power of Your Money Game.

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Use gamification and game thinking to gain wealth and elevate your influence.

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Now, this book is available, of course, on Amazon and also on audible.com.

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Our word is we, and the first letter stands for wake up value.

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You create a podcast, you get an audience, and then people who have influence

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want to promote their stuff. So you offer them value. You don't go to them and say, oh, please give me something.

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No, you offer them value. If you can support someone who is really at the top

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of their game by helping them promote what they're interested in,

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that's value, and you can create a community that way.

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It's interesting. is kind of like, it depends on how you word it.

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In terms of, hi, would you like to be on my podcast and reach my audience?

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That's a way of offering value. Yes, versus, oh, come talk to my people because

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I need somebody to speak. Well, yeah, that's just.

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Kind of being selfish. It's like saying, I don't know you, help me.

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Yes. As opposed to, hey, I'd like to offer you this opportunity.

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Now, over the years, and I've written 54 books, many of those books have guest

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authors. Some of them are top people like Guy Kawasaki.

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He has a guest article in a couple of my books. And the thing is,

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he's at the top of his game. In fact, he's someone who said to me, I'm one of the few people who worked with

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Steve Jobs twice and survived. thrive.

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That's a very big feat. In a very small group.

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By offering them the value of reaching more people by having guest articles

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in my books, it's all good because we wake up value.

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Value for that other person and you create your community.

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E of we is encourage. Now, a lot of times people talk about that encourage, that word has the word courage in it.

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And we all could use some courage so that we can elevate. One of my favorite words is elevation.

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In fact, we offer with our online

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courses, a certificate, Mastery of Influence, Impact, and Elevation.

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And so when you go to getthebigyes.com forward slash best, that's B-E-S-T.

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Once again, getthebigyes.com forward slash best.

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When you go there, you get access to my various courses and these courses help

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you develop confidence, handle toxic people, learn how to protect yourself from

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the darkest secrets of persuasion and seduction masters.

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All of these things, when you learn this, you are able to elevate what you do. And that's wonderful.

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As you can hear, my style is to encourage you.

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Sounds like those are very elevating courses. Excellent. Well said.

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Now, here's a concept. Many times in life, life gets so tough that really maybe

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one person can't carry it. But I was talking with someone in my circle, and this idea arose.

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We can carry it with the community. Yes.

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So the individual may not be able to carry it. If you're going through a tough

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time, for example, at one point, I had to clear out the apartment that my parents

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used to live in, and they had hoarded for 30 years. Oh, my God.

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So I needed a team, and a couple of my friends joined me, and we could go through

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the material in that apartment and save the precious things.

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And then it took a team of six young men to empty that space for nine hours

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with four trucks. Oh, my goodness.

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So one human being can't carry it, but we can carry it with the community.

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So now let's pull this all together. We are defiant giants.

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We defy those people who want to actively step on our heads.

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We defy those people who don't care and won't listen to us.

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We defy those people who don't get it,

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that it's wonderful to live a life of elevation and making a contribution to

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humankind and to be excited about what you can do to help humankind move forward.

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We defy that. We are defiant giants.

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We is our word. W is for wake up value. E is for encourage.

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And now, Joanna, I'm curious, what are you going to keep from this conversation?

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I'm going to keep that it's important on how you word things,

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that you're not sounding like you're selfish, and you're not asking for stuff. You're offering value.

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Excellent. That's the W of we. Wake up value. Wake up the value in yourself.

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Find out what you can do. Now, here's one thing that you can do a lot,

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and it doesn't take extra education.

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You could learn to listen to people. Ask them questions. Hey,

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how's your cat Fluffy doing after that surgery? Talk about things that they are interested in. Ask them about things that they're

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interested in. And that's what's going to be offering value.

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So you can listen. As an introvert, especially in my younger years,

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I didn't know what to do with parties. Then I learned if I would ask questions, I would listen and I would ask follow-up

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questions, the other person would have a great time.

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Later on, I developed a phrase, when you're listening, you're winning.

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So thank you so much for listening to this message. and also realize that you

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can get more from us in terms of, I've got 54 books on Amazon,

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all about different things like convince investors to fund you and confidence

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and even how to write, how to release clutter, how to enlarge your life.

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All these different books are on Amazon. My name is Tom Marcoux.

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That's M-A-R-C-O-U-X.

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And on Audible, I got 33 books on audible.com. And so we'd love to continue to support you.

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We, of course, have the online courses at getthebigyes.com forward slash best.

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And by the way, the best to you. Catch you next time.