The Pleasure Project is a series of conversations where I invite a friend to openly explore and discuss the tensions they confront in the things that bring them pleasure. This episode focuses on Kurt’s reflections as a non-binary, transmasc human navigating the vulnerability that comes with being witnessed in the aliveness of their queer expression. Welcome. - - SHOUTOUT TO JACK LOPE, America’s Number 1 Cowboy and Kurt’s drag dad! We got caught up in the yummy of this conversation and missed the chance to acknowledge Jack Lope’s steadfast presence in Kurt’s journey with creating and embodying their own drag persona, Louis La Mort!!