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Yes, he recently was eliminated with his teammates

1:00

from the playoffs. Home for the

1:02

summer, which gives him now a lot of

1:04

time to fine tune that golf game. When

1:06

he and I got together last summer,

1:09

he had just won a celebrity

1:11

golf tournament in Tahoe,

1:13

the American Century Classic. With

1:16

an incredible dramatic putt, if you haven't seen it,

1:18

you can go check it out on YouTube. He

1:21

is, well, not as good a golfer as he

1:23

is a basketball player. But the distance between those

1:25

two is getting smaller by the day. He is

1:27

an incredible golfer. You can

1:30

imagine a man who's that committed to

1:32

being great at something is going to

1:34

do it in other ways as well.

1:36

We had a great conversation around the

1:38

release last summer of a documentary called

1:40

Underrated about Steph

1:42

Curry, a late bloomer, to put

1:44

it mildly. A skinny little kid

1:46

wasn't recruited by many schools out of high school.

1:50

Ended up at Davidson College, which is just up the

1:52

road from Charlotte where he grew up. His

1:54

dad was a player, Del Curry, a great shooter

1:56

himself for the Charlotte Hornets. So, Steph. and

2:00

his family grew up in Charlotte, went to

2:02

Davidson, and then went on that magical run

2:04

that year in

2:07

the NCAA tournament to the Elite Eight.

2:10

Firmly put on the radar of

2:12

basketball evaluators and experts and

2:14

was drafted into the NBA by the Warriors

2:16

and the rest is history. We do talk

2:18

a little bit now about what

2:20

his future looks like. How much longer does he

2:22

want to play with this season now in the

2:24

books? Maybe the team breaking up

2:26

his buddy Clay Thompson. Will he be back with

2:28

the Warriors next year? We don't know. So we

2:30

get into a lot of Steph

2:33

Curry's past, what he's

2:35

doing now, and the future,

2:37

what it looks like after basketball. Sit

2:40

back, relax, enjoy our conversation from

2:42

the summer of 2023 with the

2:45

great Steph Curry on the Sunday

2:47

Sit Down Podcast. Good to

2:49

see you, man. Thanks for doing this. Absolutely. Thank

2:51

you. I can't wait to talk about underrated, but

2:53

first you were 48 hours

2:55

removed from the eagle

2:58

herd around the world to win

3:00

the celebrity tournament in Tahoe. What

3:02

was it like to stand over that putt and

3:05

then drain it to win the tournament? It was

3:07

insane. I'm so passionate about the

3:09

game of golf. I played in that

3:11

tournament, I think it was

3:13

like 10, 11 years and

3:15

knew I had the game to kind

3:17

of compete and eventually win it, but

3:19

you never know until you get

3:21

in that type of situation where you get

3:24

to fake like you're a professional golfer

3:26

for a day and come down the 18th

3:28

hole knowing you got to make a putt

3:30

to win a tournament. It was an adrenaline

3:32

rush like no other. It was the most

3:35

fun I've ever had playing golf in

3:37

that environment. I had a hole in one the day before,

3:39

come back and make an 18, 20 foot putt to

3:42

win it. I celebrated like

3:45

I won a major championship, but

3:47

that's just how much I wanted

3:49

it and how much I love

3:51

the game and how much I

3:53

love that tournament. All

3:55

the stuff that I poured into the game of golf kind of

3:57

came back to me. So it was fun. Are the nerves? Handing

4:00

over that pot comparable to anything in

4:02

basketball would you feel in that moment?

4:05

Is pretty thorough. Roses and

4:07

services know. The.

4:10

Sensation of like wanting something so bad

4:12

and and trying to lock in on

4:14

just the in ah the routine of

4:16

it all to do besides yourself Out

4:18

nationalists Golf does a base they were.

4:20

Golf is so slow yes and no

4:22

from shot the sad is less reactive

4:24

an aneurysm. Bass loss our much time

4:26

think on the courts and your muscle

4:28

memory takes over an area that thousands

4:30

and not be afraid of failure. Music

4:32

in your game. Winning Shot In on

4:34

it. Went on a foot inside. I

4:38

see as I gotta get the ball on

4:40

a narrow and in understand him in the

4:42

states that are attached to put not at

4:44

the ones who was track him and the.

4:48

News go and accident brought a

4:50

little rascal celebration to in turn

4:52

around. Did I gonna blacked out

4:54

at that point? out that no

4:56

one I just one sows zoom

4:58

and your wife was a good

5:00

place to start. Gatherers You mention

5:02

the whole one day before are

5:04

three seven pull out there? Is

5:07

had one one before think of your

5:09

life easier to his but not on

5:12

T V or that audience for the

5:14

states where they are and it showed

5:16

with the so pretty specific site all

5:18

the boxes where they say it all

5:21

the more you know excited ago and

5:23

rewards those you get the crowd reactions

5:25

from the people around, the green people

5:27

around as he was his films which

5:30

everybody wants their new the document nearly

5:32

accomplishments and in. The. Stats are

5:34

gov A on us is yours France because

5:36

I didn't believe in what is so you

5:38

hear the crowd go and radical don't check

5:40

for myself as if nobody was on the

5:43

cause I probably would have done the exact

5:45

same thing. It's spread number down the fairway

5:47

turning is a green citizens and know and

5:49

other words were watching all I need. Watch

5:51

the needs of like it's only seen out

5:53

on a situation has amassed me as well

5:56

as an. Ad Care

5:58

successes. Martin a

6:00

powerful is worth it. Severe people who

6:02

wants to play all we can have

6:04

watched. he played last ten years ago.

6:06

Zeus. Telling. You get a golf. He's

6:09

so good that he could do this some there.

6:11

Is. That anywhere on the radar for

6:13

you after your basketball career of sorts

6:15

who are know enough about of he's

6:18

a tour or know enough about the

6:20

professional level just in general to stay

6:22

in my last census was mean a

6:24

really good amateur golfer the only the

6:26

those and treat hands rely on a

6:29

plane amy and along me or years

6:31

i have a chevy source of the

6:33

now the cool to encounters Prepare for

6:35

a know like again they're the greatest

6:37

in the world or what they do

6:40

and be a tall task to. Get

6:42

your game at a level where easy to peter out

6:44

there, but. I. Am a

6:47

competitor and know where else can opponent

6:49

even just a discipline around basket on

6:51

Aca? maybe a plot ago to get

6:53

there, but. I

6:56

haven't really liberal mind wander too far

6:58

down the road into some time that

7:00

I've seen years away as these pests

7:02

inserts and every time like have he

7:04

says to play on the tour you

7:06

are to worry is thrive on Sunday

7:08

at four hundred twenty seven yards and

7:10

like oh there's something different Slow this

7:12

little bit different this metal barriers to

7:14

to underrated golf which is really. Cool.

7:17

Enterprise achieve undertaken to get more people

7:20

playing the games and what to showcase

7:22

that was over the weekend for you.

7:24

So what is the idea behind Underrated?

7:26

Off the and starts with Underrated as

7:28

A as A brand and I was

7:30

talking about a documentary and would underrated

7:32

means to me and there a part

7:34

of my Dna come out to the

7:36

basket rings house a three star recruit

7:38

that. The did

7:40

he offer some? The major schools are one

7:42

and I was an impasse. Isis is it

7:44

really? Is there

7:46

a lot of things critics are

7:49

naysayers. The said: I couldn't do

7:51

x y z at as level

7:53

so. Generate. a basque lots

7:55

or and underrated golf kind of

7:57

snow became an idea that those

7:59

china platforms and opportunity for kids

8:01

that were in my shoes or are in

8:03

my shoes coming up. They're

8:05

just looking for an opportunity to showcase what

8:08

you know they're really about in their skill

8:10

set. So we've had a basketball tour for

8:12

the last five years and our golf tour

8:14

just is in our second season. It's

8:16

about equity access and opportunity in the

8:19

game of golf and trying to get

8:21

more diversity and more representation within the

8:23

game. More access at an earlier age

8:25

for kids from black and

8:27

brown communities to you know enjoy

8:30

the game of golf because it teaches you so much

8:32

about yourself. It unlocks you

8:34

know a skill set in terms of

8:36

not just trying to potentially have you

8:39

know more representation of professional tours but

8:41

the world and the business of golf as well

8:44

there are so many opportunities there from a leadership

8:46

perspective and you know amazing careers that could come

8:48

out of it. So I'm

8:50

super proud of where we are we get to

8:52

take kids around the country to amazing venues and

8:56

give them first-class experiences. It's been

8:59

a great start so far. Good for you using your platform

9:01

for that. It's a great game. It's a mad thing game.

9:03

It is a great game. That's part of

9:05

the joy of it overcoming that. So

9:08

you mentioned the film Underrated which is just awesome

9:10

and it's not I was watching and I'm a

9:12

huge basketball fan as I was telling you big

9:14

fan of yours and it dawned on me 30

9:17

minutes in this is not really about basketball.

9:19

It's your story of course but it's about

9:21

overcoming odds people not believing in you finding

9:23

who you are and I

9:26

was joking with you a minute ago there's a shot

9:28

in there of you I don't know are you ten

9:30

years old? Nine years old sitting at

9:32

the end of the bench very end of

9:34

the bench biting your fingernails and

9:36

it freezes on you and I'm like that

9:38

kid's gonna be so what were those early

9:40

years as a player who had

9:44

huge dreams son of an NBA star all the things

9:46

you wanted out of it but you weren't getting back

9:48

from the game what was that like? It was interesting

9:51

because I mean obviously as you said at the time

9:53

I just love to play basketball and you

9:56

know anytime there's a lot of

9:58

great gratitude and appreciation for any opportunity I

10:00

got to play because, like I said, I was

10:03

in just didn't fit the mold. Even when, you know,

10:05

growing up in Charlotte, when my dad played for 10

10:08

years for the Charlotte Hornets, you would

10:10

think that, you know, what came

10:13

with that was like an easy path towards, you

10:15

know, just being the best player on every team

10:17

that you are. I had the exact opposite experience.

10:19

And so it was a kind

10:21

of a weird kind of contrast to what expectations

10:24

could have been, but what, you know, naysayers

10:27

and critics, even at that time, we're

10:30

saying about, you know, I just wasn't

10:32

ready for that level. And

10:34

it developed an identity around, you

10:36

know, work ethic and inner confidence

10:39

in yourself that when you're

10:41

out there, you know, take advantage of every

10:43

opportunity and don't be afraid of failure. There's

10:46

a perseverance and patience that comes with it

10:48

as well that comes out through the documentary

10:51

and how my story kind of unfolded.

10:53

And to your point, it's not just a

10:55

basketball story. It's not just a sports story.

10:58

It's something that

11:00

I encourage anybody to find what makes you

11:02

different, what makes you unique, what

11:04

you have to offer the world at whatever level

11:07

and own it and pour everything you

11:09

have into it. And

11:11

thankfully, you know, I was able to find out

11:13

with basketball early and, you

11:15

know, find a support system that could

11:17

help me, you know, achieve, you know,

11:19

greatness throughout the process. So that underrated

11:21

mindset is always a part of my

11:23

DNA, no matter what's happened.

11:27

You know, my MBA career and my life, I still carry that,

11:29

you know, with me. You watch the

11:31

footage of you in high school, you're a good

11:33

player. I mean, you see the Steph Curry jumper,

11:35

the quick release, all that stuff that's in there.

11:37

And yet you weren't getting the attention. You

11:40

probably thought you deserved to be getting, even as you said,

11:42

your last name's Curry. Oh, he's got my shoes, his dad

11:44

was a great shooter, all those things. And

11:47

you wanted to play for teams near you. You want

11:49

to play for Carolina or Duke or Wake or and

11:51

whoever it was, NC State. So how

11:53

frustrating was that? And did you wear that

11:55

sort of as a chip on your shoulder

11:57

that they're not taking notice of me? Sure,

12:01

but I credit my mom

12:03

for kind of redirecting

12:05

that energy in the sense of you can

12:07

carry that chip on your shoulder to prove

12:10

the world wrong and like, you

12:13

know, go into every situation like

12:15

I'm here to show everybody who I am. For

12:18

me, it was I need to, you know, prove to

12:20

myself that, you know, I was a player that I

12:22

thought I was and that work that

12:24

I put into it was going to prepare me

12:26

for whatever the opportunity came and to also just

12:28

run my own race. In

12:30

the sense of, you know, what's for what's for you will be

12:32

for you and to not get

12:34

into the comparison game of looking to your left

12:37

and your right and judging yourself based on what

12:39

somebody else is doing. It's about, you know, your

12:41

own journey and being, you know,

12:43

hyper focused on that. And so, like

12:46

you said, I want to play in the ACC

12:48

and even go to

12:50

my parents alma mater Virginia Tech,

12:52

like those opportunities didn't come calling.

12:54

But when Davidson, you know, revealed

12:56

itself, it was pretty clear

12:58

that that was the perfect situation for me.

13:00

And despite what anybody would say about that

13:03

decision, I felt like it was right and

13:05

I had a full confidence and and what

13:07

that was. And that was, you know, a

13:09

true unlock for me at that point in

13:11

my career. Is it true that

13:13

Virginia Tech coaching staff or a coach actually

13:15

even came home, both your parents were star

13:17

athletes there and said, we're here to

13:19

pay a visit. We're not here to give you an

13:21

offer. We just want to let you know we're not interested. Turned

13:25

into a just wanted to do

13:27

right by my dad and my

13:29

mom because they were Hokies. But

13:31

there was a walk on opportunity.

13:34

If I wanted to go that route, there was

13:36

no scholarship offer though. So it was under a

13:38

definitely different pretense of a meeting. I would love

13:40

to talk to that coach. So

13:44

you go to Davidson and you have not

13:47

your first game out, but from there on

13:49

you had some success and it built and

13:51

it built and it built. And you credit

13:53

coach, the Colop who believed in

13:55

you and gave you a chance, even though you struggled

13:57

in that first game as a freshman. How

14:00

much credit does he deserve for the man sitting

14:02

here today? A lot. A

14:04

lot. Just in terms of from

14:08

the time he started recruiting me, the

14:10

message was that I was good

14:13

enough. I didn't have to change. He

14:15

was going to try to unlock my full potential. He's

14:17

going to push me. It wasn't going to be easy.

14:21

But I truly believe that he

14:23

had my best interest in knowing that I

14:25

could add a lot of value to the

14:28

Davidson program. I'm

14:30

sure he immediately, I wouldn't say

14:32

regretted it. He had some probably

14:34

doubts creeping my first college

14:36

game where I had 13 turnovers. And

14:39

the footage of that game was worse than I actually

14:41

remember. It was, if

14:44

I'm a coach and I'm watching that performance, I'm

14:47

making a quick substitution and moving

14:49

on. But Coach McCill, he stuck

14:51

with me and he instilled confidence in me through

14:53

those failures. And

14:55

it wasn't just me as the basketball player,

14:57

it was me as the man as well.

15:00

He coached and mentored both. So I felt

15:02

like that decision to go there, play for

15:04

him in those three years that I had

15:06

there were the most formative years of

15:09

my basketball career. I remember the

15:11

whispers started coming out of North

15:13

Carolina. There's this team and there's this

15:16

kid. He's a freshman. He's skinny. He

15:18

didn't look like what you're used to a star basketball

15:21

player being. And then you guys went to the tournament

15:23

that year, lost in

15:25

the first round. But then the next year

15:27

you go on this incredible run in 08

15:30

and you win three games that nobody expected you

15:32

to win. And maybe you should have won

15:34

another one after that. I'm sure you feel like you should have. What

15:38

did that run do for you and your

15:40

life where the whole country said, oh my God,

15:42

this guy is as good as they're saying. You

15:46

start with like you talked about my, my, my early

15:48

years. Like I got to kind of understand

15:51

who I was as a person in the

15:53

player before all the spotlight happened and that

15:56

I'm forever grateful for because, you

15:58

know, it wasn't. just what

16:01

I was able to accomplish, but that team in particular,

16:03

there's a lot of, you know, good

16:06

inspiration that comes out of everybody understanding what

16:08

their role was, everybody playing their role to

16:10

the best of their ability and

16:12

being a star in that role and just the power

16:15

of team and the collective that, you know,

16:17

we had to share a goal, we all showed up, you

16:19

know, with the right energy to get it done. And

16:21

obviously, you know, my story coming out of that was,

16:24

it was pretty

16:26

loud, it was putting Davidson on

16:28

the map and that tournament run that we had was

16:31

something truly special in the sense of

16:34

overcoming so many odds

16:36

as a small division one

16:38

program beating Gonzaga, Georgetown, Wisconsin,

16:41

losing to the eventual champions

16:43

in Kansas. But in that

16:46

dock, we kind of dive into everybody's,

16:48

you know, role and perspective and how

16:50

that impacted each one of

16:52

them individually, from the coaching staff to my

16:55

teammates to the Davidson community around. And it

16:57

was truly a special, special time. And a

16:59

lot of great reflection comes when looking back

17:01

at what we were able to accomplish. There's

17:03

a moment that really struck me where LeBron

17:06

James is sitting in the crowd at one

17:08

of your games during the tournament, right? He's

17:10

LeBron. And you're still the skinny kid

17:12

from Davidson who people are, he compete at the NBA

17:14

level, what's it going to be like? And now to

17:17

fast forward to today, people argue over

17:19

which is the greatest player in the NBA. As a young

17:21

player, in that

17:25

day of the game to look over and see LeBron

17:27

watching felt like what? Surreal

17:30

100% like, I'm

17:33

just a sophomore trying

17:35

to figure out an NCAA

17:38

tournament. And, you know,

17:40

I think LeBron was probably in his fourth

17:42

or fifth year at the time, and he

17:44

was LeBron. So for him to come out,

17:46

go out of his way and come to

17:48

a forward field in Detroit and watch

17:51

his play, even some of the reactions he had to some

17:53

of the plays and all that, it is kind of hilarious

17:56

to view the stop time in that moment and tell

17:58

both of us, you know, what was in our future

18:00

in terms of the back and forth battles and

18:03

careers that were kind of you know intertwined

18:06

in that respect we probably would laugh

18:08

at it. It

18:10

sure did and before you get

18:12

drafty decide to leave your

18:15

mom says to you in such a

18:17

credit to her and to your whole family she says okay

18:20

you can go to the NBA but you

18:22

will get your degree from Davidson

18:25

and she held you to that and you

18:27

got it last summer and the

18:29

footage in the film when you graduate

18:31

last August standing up on that stage

18:33

with Davidson and she's got tears in

18:35

her eyes and your dad's got tears in his eyes I

18:38

think I saw some tears in your eyes too what

18:41

did that moment totally unrelated to basketball

18:43

what did that feel like? It

18:45

was kind of a nice completion to

18:47

the arc of what Davidson meant to me

18:50

because everything that I put into

18:52

that decision to go there was you know

18:54

around owning that experience right

18:57

in the sense of it was

18:59

a decision for basketball it was a decision to

19:01

play for Coach McKillop it was you

19:04

know Davidson such as an amazing

19:06

educational experience with liberal arts school

19:08

pretty tight-knit and Coach McKillop had

19:10

an unblemished graduation record for four-year

19:12

players for him and so I

19:15

didn't want to be the one blemish on that

19:17

record and to your point my mom's a lifelong

19:19

educator she formed

19:22

a Montessori school that I went to an

19:24

early elementary ages and

19:26

so didn't know it would take

19:29

that long to get across the podium and

19:31

get my degree. You were busy. Yeah

19:34

it was a special time to know one it

19:36

wasn't gonna be like an honorary thing I wanted to actually

19:39

do the work and earn earn it but

19:41

it was a great moment to bring

19:43

everybody back together as well like the celebrations you

19:46

talked about some of the footage in there you

19:48

know had old teammates had all

19:51

my coaches had 5,000 of the

19:53

Davidson community in the arena celebrating

19:56

the moment with me and it

19:58

was special because it's speaks to how many

20:00

people have been involved in my life along the way in

20:02

my journey and have helped me get to where I'm at.

20:05

And for me to be able to acknowledge

20:08

them while also fulfilling a promise to the

20:10

most important people in my life was truly

20:12

special. I don't want to give away too

20:14

much, but there are some great scenes of

20:16

you studying, working on your thesis at home

20:18

while you're on a kid. My kids are

20:20

doing homework. That's good. Good stuff. Doing homework

20:22

together with your kids. I don't think one

20:24

of them was just like eating chicken nuggets.

20:26

I think you're doing a lot of homework.

20:29

He's the tornado in the house. So there's

20:31

some good scenes in there for sure. That's

20:33

very clear. That's very clear in this film

20:35

as well. So you're underrated even when you

20:37

get picked. You're a lottery pick. You're the

20:39

seventh pick in the draft. But still, like

20:41

on draft night and on the shows the next day

20:43

they go, I don't know.

20:45

He's a great shooter, played in

20:47

the Southern Conference, still pretty skinny.

20:50

Maybe he'll be like a nice spot up shooter in

20:52

the NDA. Still having to

20:54

prove yourself at every level it seems like. So

20:56

what was that like in the NDA? OK, now

20:59

I've got to prove it on the highest level.

21:02

Just more challenging motivation to tap

21:04

into that underrated DNA that I

21:06

developed earlier in my life. And

21:09

like you said, as the

21:11

level kept rising, there was always an opportunity

21:13

to have to prove that I was worthy

21:15

or able

21:18

to compete on that level. And that had

21:20

been a narrative all the way through. So

21:23

I didn't feel like anything was changing. And

21:26

to your point, there's the draft

21:28

report of what I can't do. And

21:30

it was pretty loud and pretty extensive. And

21:33

a lot of bullet points on it of

21:35

this XYZ, why he can't make it on

21:37

the NBA level. And

21:40

even going to Golden State, which was an organization

21:42

that hadn't had success in an extremely

21:44

long time. So I was

21:47

at the time not understanding how big

21:49

the opportunity would be or the challenge

21:51

would be, but just excited that I

21:53

had my foot in the door. And as long as I

21:55

had it, then I had a lot of confidence in myself

21:57

that I'd be able to figure it out because I developed.

22:00

that work ethic from from day one. That

22:02

draft report sounded a lot like the Tom

22:04

Brady report by the way. I just didn't

22:06

have the very awkward draft day picture with

22:08

my shirt on. That combine shot's gonna haunt

22:11

him forever. In his boxers

22:13

I think. So

22:15

when did when did you feel like you had

22:17

arrived in the NBA that you had this that

22:19

you weren't proving yourself anymore? Was it the first

22:21

title? Was it MVP

22:23

awards? When did you start to

22:25

find it? Honestly it was probably my fourth year. We

22:28

had a game in New York at

22:31

the Garden and I scored

22:33

54 points but we lost that night.

22:36

It was the first time really that my

22:39

confidence is an unbelievable unlock

22:41

in anything, especially on the

22:43

basketball court. People

22:47

started to talk about you a little

22:49

different once I had that night

22:52

and I think it just gave

22:54

me a boost. I already knew

22:56

that I was capable but I

22:59

think the tone started to

23:01

change a little bit and then from there there's

23:03

a little failure on the back end of that. Next

23:06

year we had lost in the playoffs against the

23:08

Clippers in the seven game series and

23:11

we were still tapping on the door trying

23:13

to get to the next to the mountain

23:15

top of being a championship contender. But that

23:17

game specifically just kind of changed the narrative.

23:19

Okay we got to take this kid seriously

23:22

because he's got a game and he's fearless and I appreciate

23:25

that little stamp of validation but I knew that there

23:27

was a little bit more work that needed to be

23:29

done. It's funny what a big night at the Garden

23:31

can do, isn't it? Absolutely. The

23:33

whole world notices. Absolutely. Hey guys,

23:36

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23:38

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23:40

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Back now, more of my conversation

24:16

with Steph Curry. I heard you

24:18

say. I was surprised to hear it. That

24:20

you still. Feel. A little

24:22

underrated. how can that be when people

24:25

talk about you may be the greenest

24:27

black lives certainly right now, Even Le

24:29

Bron, how could you still been doing.

24:31

This. Is is itself on to

24:34

explain because with a resume lives labor

24:36

for me aside the housing and security

24:38

is. The. Way that I've

24:41

seen many of the game or basketball life

24:43

from day one has not changed at all.

24:45

as though one enjoy every other sad is

24:47

like of appreciation for you know what I've

24:50

been able to accomplish. But as though as

24:52

that I have to prove to myself that

24:54

I can still do it and I can

24:56

still doing. I can still do it for

24:59

a long as I can. It's Il that's

25:01

what drives me and maybe it's and in

25:03

action. Suit. Yourself

25:05

into every year and on like are you have

25:08

success with. This is

25:10

what have you know what have you

25:12

done lately have a mob mentality that

25:14

you have to gonna keep living out

25:16

soon as I don't have that underrated

25:18

dna come out on that drive me

25:21

answers our prepare for the next season

25:23

I prepare for him of being the

25:25

game throughout the regular season or be

25:27

playoff run I will be myself so

25:29

as the best way to explain in

25:32

Noida underrated misers again a part of

25:34

notice who I am in a news

25:36

item is at every at every know

25:38

every up to imagine. Part of the

25:40

to his people keep running off you not

25:42

see what your team. I'm watching the film

25:45

and remembered every time he would lose a

25:47

playoff series. The dynasties over it's over the

25:49

to old brings up the ban was months

25:51

and then in one another championship. Why do

25:54

you think people keep doing this Misuse same

25:56

the state of coming in as out. On.

25:59

Oh man. No, my

26:01

So successful and. Then.

26:03

You get a target on your back

26:05

at a certain point we want to

26:07

see. We'll. See. Lose almost in

26:10

the says are so I guess gonna

26:12

the nation lesser in the nation around

26:14

the barrier to wars and so on.

26:17

This is a bar. The nature

26:19

of the of those of winning

26:21

and know what she saw a

26:23

little sign of a vulnerability are

26:25

like loss of hours and they

26:27

mess was always thrived on and

26:29

were enough positioning right now trying

26:32

to reestablish or yard a top

26:34

of allegiance. Sweaty are cool man

26:36

still together is an amazing opportunity

26:38

to tap into that. He also

26:40

for one more run the save

26:42

with near back there and though

26:45

I never really excited about Lassie.

26:47

About the yet core group Dream and

26:49

back. You. Had Chris Paul. Are

26:52

you feeling about the team going into the season? Even.

26:54

When he said now still like new

26:56

reactors seen as phenomenal this know how

26:58

the battles that we've had when he

27:01

was in L A and in in

27:03

Houston work. For.

27:05

Us like. A You said,

27:07

we have so much know how and how to win. As

27:11

a guard our team is is built to. Perform

27:15

at the highest level when it when

27:17

I tell us services here we have

27:19

a high shooting now. We have a

27:21

lot of experience and maturity in a

27:23

locker rooms or core. In and out.

27:25

we do things new, maintain that was

27:27

really important and as young as I

27:29

can hopefully step up into a more

27:31

prominent roles in our rotation. Elvis it

27:33

will be any team the lead so.

27:37

Gotta stay patient to the process

27:39

of figure it out because there

27:41

is changing. The side

27:43

of a look the same like a New Years Pass

27:45

but. For. Us because we're still remains

27:48

in. The thing is. That

27:50

sir is pretty. Attainable.

27:52

The region wasn't prepared oslo

27:55

meet anybody, was getting onto

27:57

the getting my smurf accounts.

27:59

Adam. all the same or do you

28:01

have moments Steph now maybe when

28:04

you're in private with Aisha or something where

28:06

you go I can't

28:08

believe the skinny kid biting his nails

28:10

on the end of the bench got

28:13

to where he got all the time

28:15

do you all the time I

28:18

think that's a part of just being able to stay

28:20

in the moment and like really enjoy you know what's

28:22

right in front of you we've

28:24

tried to maintain that as

28:26

much as possible because I just have so much fun playing

28:28

this game and you

28:31

know don't really focus on the results

28:33

as much it's all process based and

28:36

what you pour into it and having faith

28:38

eventually that will put us or put me

28:40

in position to be successful and again be

28:42

able to maintain it but when you look

28:44

back at the footage of

28:46

like you said me when I was playing 9 and

28:49

under AAU basketball or me swimming

28:51

in a triple X jersey in high school

28:53

because I wanted to wear number 30 but

28:55

it was too big

28:57

of a jersey so I settled on 20 and it

28:59

was still too big. It's short for you too.

29:01

I don't even know how you went through your legs with those

29:03

shorts. Just thinking about all of that that

29:07

it was the work that I put in would

29:09

eventually lead to all this and just the blessings

29:11

of the people that I've gotten to experience success

29:14

with on this journey the

29:16

lessons that I've learned through failures

29:18

and all that that it would

29:20

have led to this still beyond

29:22

my wildest imagination but I

29:25

think if we lose that sense of

29:27

gratitude or you know that wonder of

29:29

what's happened that would

29:32

kind of rob you of the joy as

29:34

well because it's truly special. Joy is the

29:36

right word for the way you play. I've

29:38

talked to my son who's 14 and when

29:41

I grew up I was a Knicks fan

29:43

watching them play the heat and win 65

29:45

to 63 in a playoff game and they

29:47

were fighting And we

29:49

loved Michael But it was all intensity all the

29:51

time.. You Play with a smile on your face

29:53

and you're running around like crazy and you're hiding

29:56

behind screens and sneaking out and turning around when

29:58

you shoot at three. That have

30:00

come naturally to you that joy that you

30:02

were because it's fun to watch as a

30:05

fan. it's a good example for kids playing

30:07

the game as a came natural early. On

30:10

that the challenges and maintain as pressing

30:12

the business of ask last person The

30:14

League on. Cancer

30:17

and not a little bit. But our

30:19

vows and been very intentional about. Bringing

30:22

joy to every environment I go

30:24

and see movies are so they

30:27

knew. That's. What else?

30:29

Me: Guy. Gets happens to

30:31

the moment. Now.

30:33

Be afraid of schools. whatever expectations

30:35

my been our gear nasir failures

30:38

us from having fun and means

30:40

I'm going to work and these

30:42

I'm enjoying some the practice of

30:45

museum enjoy the sacrifices at it

30:47

takes to be successful at this

30:49

level. And

30:51

that's my happy place or there's

30:53

no is for love. My creativity

30:56

to flow in accordance with as

30:58

dawns. For those around

31:00

me too. so on. the I'm. I'm.

31:02

When I'm joking, smile and it's the

31:04

one thing know Toby Bryant when I

31:07

was filming of to the Race he

31:09

he noticed there behind the was a

31:11

killer instinct that they competitive nature was

31:13

always in there and as. Like

31:16

they're balanced. know some enjoy myself when

31:18

I'm on shudder when at all costs

31:21

to as watches. interview a couple Monsieur

31:23

le Bron Coach K was an insurmountable

31:25

lead have evolved since he came in

31:28

is really likes detailed smart analysis. One

31:30

through the it's a smile and say

31:32

he said and then the skinny jeans

31:35

to discourage the lead in changed everything.

31:38

Do you have an appreciation for the

31:40

fact that fourteen year old boys takes

31:42

he dribbles inside half court jakob series

31:44

of he says that you have three

31:47

we changed the way basketball as plate.

31:50

Is. harder of like really reflect

31:53

on of understand even is at

31:55

the highest level of service one

31:57

league teams have shifted their strategies

31:59

or on how guys have added that as a

32:02

skill setter. There's a way that they see the game. It

32:05

was never like an intention of like, that's what

32:07

I'm here to do, but it's just how I

32:09

see the game and the irrational confidence that I

32:11

have to shoot all those types of shots. The

32:15

one thing for the young next generations, like I

32:17

want them to have the vision of being able

32:19

to shoot the same shots. I want them to

32:22

have the confidence that they can play the game

32:24

that way, but you can't cheat it without the

32:26

work that goes into it. So if I could

32:28

count the amount of reps that I've gone through,

32:31

I've tried to do this experiment. I know it's like more

32:33

than 500,000 somewhere, in

32:36

that ballpark of how many shots I've actually

32:38

taken and made to give myself

32:40

the ability to go out onto an NBA floor

32:43

or even night and shoot those type of shots.

32:45

So I want

32:47

them to have that vision and inspiration. Just

32:49

got to put the work in and have the patience

32:51

that you can keep stacking blocks to

32:54

get to that level. That's a good message for kids

32:56

too. It looks on the outside like you just have

32:58

a gift. No, actually I shot half a million to

33:02

get the gift. You know, you got to work for

33:04

it. So you've got a couple

33:06

of years left on your contract. You're 35 right now.

33:10

LeBron's 38, he'll be pushing 40 here pretty

33:12

soon. Brady played till he was 45. Do

33:15

you see the end anytime soon? I mean, you're playing

33:18

at a very high level, but do you start thinking

33:20

that way at this point? You

33:22

do start thinking about it. The thoughts do

33:24

creep in of, you

33:27

know, what that timeline really looks like. I know

33:31

it almost puts into perspective how important

33:33

these next two, three years are in

33:35

terms of, you know, doubling down

33:38

on the level that I want to be at

33:40

and continue to play at and

33:43

pushing it to the limit as

33:45

long as I can. There's

33:47

guys, like you said, Bron is doing a

33:50

20 something year. You know, what

33:52

Tom did before he retired was just truly amazing. So

33:54

you Can learn lessons from,

33:57

you know, guys like that, that it is

33:59

possible. After the mindful

34:01

of how you approach your all

34:03

seasons and know. The

34:06

workbench you put it on your body to make

34:08

sure you stay at a level am doing all

34:10

those things to do you myself as as we

34:12

successfully. As Isla

34:15

de Sac, the timeline almost as

34:17

gives me much more motivation for

34:19

the now take advantage of every

34:21

officer eggs you know the balls,

34:24

massage or start bouncing at some

34:26

points or something as a attention.

34:28

To. You that that urgency

34:30

when I want you to stop? Selfishly

34:33

nice. Okay, before let's go. I

34:36

will make you mean yourselves. Was take

34:39

Steph Curry hour ago. The greatest cedar

34:41

in India. History is not me. It

34:44

is you. but I'm letting you take his eyes and.

34:50

I'd say re our. Not

34:53

in eyes as he was just a second

34:55

know gathered I broke the record from with

34:57

a thing. Is is form.

35:01

His. Dedication to his craft. He had

35:03

big shots in his career. He

35:06

checked a lot of boxes. In terms of. Embarrassing.

35:09

To bought our level which a lot of who don't

35:11

remove. Them. His early thirties and

35:14

to athletes yeah I know all around

35:16

game that was pretty special in his

35:18

shot in them as it evolves allow

35:20

allow them that their longevity and his

35:22

career So I say around about the

35:24

toughest the sender to fight against the

35:26

guy who got to do the best

35:28

and leave right now or maybe even

35:31

up with courses for this. Our

35:36

say as a group of

35:38

Surrey that. Always

35:41

know. The label

35:44

went off and their own The course do

35:46

our a Sony Allen. And

35:49

Ron Artest Actually, I get to play

35:51

to win against isn't that He was.

35:54

He. had shown his hands you've ever seen your

35:56

life if you for the ball around and he's

35:58

this mega read out of your hand. Those

36:02

three guys drew

36:04

especially because we're in the

36:06

same draft class and I

36:08

just got to watch him play his whole career. He's

36:12

gotten a lot of shine as a

36:14

lay, obviously as a champion and multiple

36:16

time all-star, but he was

36:18

definitely one of the greater defenders that had to

36:20

play this. Ron, our tests would talk a lot.

36:25

I love that. Okay,

36:29

greatest player of all time.

36:32

It's the debate. Is it LeBron? Is

36:34

it Bill Russell? Is it Michael Jordan? You know,

36:36

you could go on and on and on. Do you

36:38

have a favorite in that conversation? So

36:41

the way that I

36:43

ascribe to the mindset that there are multiple goats,

36:45

and I hate that it's not a cop-out answer,

36:47

but it's so hard to

36:49

compare errors. And getting into that

36:51

conversation of, oh, if you put Michael in

36:54

this area or if you put LeBron in

36:56

that area, it's

36:58

kind of unfair. It's a great barbershop

37:00

debate and something that will never stop

37:02

until the end of the time.

37:05

But they're all goats because

37:07

they've all changed the way

37:10

basketball is played. They've catapulted

37:12

themselves to the top of

37:14

their time period where you

37:17

can't argue that anybody...

37:19

There's a better resume in the sense of what

37:21

they were all able to accomplish, but

37:24

they are all perfect for their time.

37:26

And I feel like that's something

37:28

that will continue to spark a debate of,

37:31

you put them in a gym one-on-one, who's going

37:33

to win or whatever the case is, however you

37:35

want to answer that question. But there are multiple

37:37

goats for multiple reasons. And there's

37:39

still Kobe in there too, obviously.

37:41

Absolutely. Yeah. Before we go

37:43

upstairs and hit a couple golf balls, if

37:45

you're up for it, tell me

37:47

about that organization that you started with, Aisha, and

37:49

why it's so special, not just to you, but

37:51

to your whole family, really. It's

37:54

an unbelievable foundation that we've been

37:56

able to establish. We

37:58

launched it in the U.S. summer of 2019

38:00

and we do identify

38:03

those three pillars as you

38:06

know appropriate resources to

38:08

help kids you know achieve their full

38:10

potential and help support

38:12

them to unlock that potential you know

38:14

through their early childhood development and obviously

38:17

nutritious well-balanced meals and access

38:20

to those meals helping

38:23

kids get to appropriate grade

38:25

reading levels by third grade which

38:27

is a major indicator of high

38:29

school completion was once

38:31

you know kids fall behind it's really hard

38:33

for them to catch up especially you know

38:36

kids from black and brown communities and

38:39

try to implement you know better access

38:41

to culturally appropriate books and

38:45

relevant books for them for them to you know

38:48

all different type of resources

38:50

and then you know active

38:53

lifestyle it's sports teaches

38:55

you so much about yourself it develops community

38:57

and so you know

38:59

e-learn play has been a huge part of us

39:02

giving back to the Oakland community which is our

39:04

adoptive home in the Bay

39:06

Area we've been out there for 15 years

39:08

and really important for us to continue to

39:10

leverage you know that presence I think continue

39:12

to change lives have been very blessed

39:15

unfortunate of you know some of the things we've been

39:17

able to do over these last four

39:19

years and we're just getting started you

39:22

do a lot man yet that he had a

39:24

production company at children's books all the underrated it's

39:26

just fun to watch you go and I hope

39:29

you play forever thanks for being a great thank

39:31

you player to watch but also a great example

39:33

for our kids to look up to talk to

39:35

you man thank you so much thank you very

39:38

much stick around for more of my conversation with

39:40

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back now to the rest of my conversation

40:17

with Steph Curry. Alright

40:19

Willie, give it a rip. Give it a rip. No

40:21

Tahoe hangover. No Tahoe

40:23

confidence right now. Tahoe

40:26

confidence. That famous Tahoe confidence. I

40:30

don't want to try the tip you gave me because it's

40:32

going to mess me up. Oh absolutely. I'll work on it.

40:34

You got to work on that later. Yeah. Whoa, topper. Alright

40:37

let's try that again. Let's try that again. That's

40:39

your warm up swing everybody. There

40:41

it is. Ah, I got to get that up.

40:43

There it is. That'll work. That'll

40:46

run a little bit. That's playable all

40:48

day. There it is. There we

40:50

go. A

40:52

little five yard fade. Unintentional

40:55

fade. The unintentional. A

40:57

little six yard. That's

41:02

as good as it gets for me. I'm walking away. That

41:05

is crazy. That's

41:08

clean. What's

41:12

your target Steph? See that's the thing. I didn't

41:14

even have one right there. So here we go.

41:16

I'm going to hit it at the far. The

41:19

far white. Okay. It's

41:22

going to be a little fade. It's going to land on it. Far

41:24

right one. That's

41:29

the fade. You called it. Smoke

41:33

fit. Here's a little six iron. Let's see it. Might

41:37

have a new golf outfit now. You going to lose the net? The

41:39

built. Oh, lefty? Oh,

41:43

see that's the. That's the. That's

41:45

the yeah, you just on the heel a little bit. Do

41:49

one more. This will be easy. Just one

41:51

thing. Step away from the ball

41:53

just a little bit. Yeah. And

41:55

then more more. Yeah. It

41:57

almost. We might feel like a squat. Yeah. right

42:00

there yeah golf it right there

42:02

Steph Curry that's it here we go

42:05

let it rip okay

42:08

just don't cut that way and

42:11

then we'll add it together you got you're

42:14

not gonna do like the shot tracing

42:16

thing now you hit the ball and

42:18

then the red line yeah you can

42:20

draw it however you want to get

42:23

the hit the marker out still can't

42:25

get over how beautiful is this amazing

42:27

you've never been up

42:30

here right where

42:33

do you play mostly you got a good course

42:35

around home you go San Francisco yeah it's called

42:39

the California Golf Club yeah it's

42:41

called Calplums yeah kind

42:44

of right in that pocket they got Olympic yeah

42:47

Harding Park and

42:49

then San Francisco Golf Club and the

42:52

only problem is you know how cold it gets

42:54

in some of the air right

42:56

in the wind tunnel right

42:58

right there and all that but we're

43:01

in ski hats exactly in July

43:03

yeah clearly you're playing a

43:05

lot though Jason what I

43:07

saw in Tahoe I

43:10

want to thank the Los Angeles Lakers

43:13

for their contributions to me winning

43:15

my golf tournaments this summer because

43:17

I got a four-week

43:19

head start on on the

43:21

golf training camp a little early exit right

43:24

to the golf course that helped me to play

43:26

I'm playing three rounds a week I

43:29

got 10 to 12 extra rounds in because of the Lakers

43:31

and look where it led you holding up

43:34

a trophy on Sunday nice consolation prize

43:36

right there watch this slinger you ready

43:42

oh look at it's slang it's like

43:45

real like 1992 tag woods

43:49

the extra baggy pants it's a

43:51

fire fit right now I'm actually

43:53

really mmm oh that's

43:55

pure that's real nice oh

43:59

man Love this game What

44:02

is golf do for you staff that nothing else can

44:04

what do you love about it? it

44:07

is the perfect combination of like

44:09

I guess three things one like

44:13

The competition with yourself on trying to find a

44:16

little ways to get just a little bit better

44:18

It's the most humbling sport in the world Because

44:20

one day you could have it for no

44:23

reason at all you wake up the next day and

44:25

you forget how to swing You bought if not cooperate

44:27

so that endless pursuit

44:30

as a competitor is always fun then

44:32

the camaraderie you get just being outside

44:34

with you know your friends and and

44:39

the four hours you get this to be in nature and

44:41

all that and The amount

44:43

of people and places that golf has taken

44:45

me. Yeah blessing that respect to I Have

44:48

a lot of amazing experiences. I run the course didn't

44:50

really matter what you score some days It's about you

44:52

know the fun that you have It's

44:55

so cool to now see how many other

44:57

athletes are getting into the game Yeah, that was my

45:00

dad got me into the game. I was 10 and

45:04

I've been playing ever since but a lot of people

45:06

find it late in life later in life and realizing

45:08

how much fun it is and There's

45:11

a lot of guys especially in the league the

45:13

young guys that ask me like oh, what club

45:15

should I buy? I wish that's right right, and

45:17

I love it so The

45:20

game is growing yes, I'm trying to you

45:22

also find when your kids get older and

45:24

go out with them That's a

45:26

nice few hours just with

45:28

your kid quality time outside Talking

45:31

in the cart all that all of that you can't

45:33

trade those experiences. Yeah, I still I still play with

45:35

my dad Me and my brother

45:38

go out with him five to ten times

45:40

a year, and we look forward to it so much so

45:43

I started taking my kids out to the range,

45:45

and they're Falling in love

45:47

with it themselves so trying to plant that

45:49

see early you guys played well in Tahoe

45:52

it did yeah 11 yeah,

45:54

so it's not bad for for

45:56

the old guy still out there

45:58

competing about the turn 60 next year. So,

46:02

hence, still hitting the ball. It's

46:04

a game for life, right? Yeah. The

46:07

original number 30 Curry. Original

46:09

Curry number 30. That's it. I used to,

46:11

I'm not just saying this because you're here,

46:13

but growing up, 80s, 90s, I

46:16

used to think he was the best shooter I'd ever

46:18

seen. Just so pure, clean,

46:21

and then you came along. You

46:24

planned the seed and I just took it and

46:26

ran with it. Yes, you did. Yes, you did.

46:29

Thank you so much, man. I'm so much

46:31

fun. Thank you. Good to see you more.

46:33

Good to see you too. That's hilarious. My

46:36

big thanks again to Steph Curry for a

46:38

great conversation. And whenever that NBA career does

46:40

wind up, I would keep an eye

46:42

out for this guy. Playing professional golf. He is

46:44

that good. You can check out

46:46

Steph Curry Underrated right now on

46:49

Apple TV Plus. And my

46:51

thanks to all of you for listening again this

46:53

week. If you want to hear more of my

46:55

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47:00

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47:03

weekend on NBC. I'm

47:05

Willie Heist. We'll see you right back

47:07

here next week on the Sunday ScentDown

47:09

page. Reese's

47:20

Peanut Butter Cups are the greatest, but let me

47:22

play tell as an advocate here. Let's see. So

47:25

no, that's a good thing. Definitely

47:28

not a problem. Reese's,

47:31

you did it. You stumped this

47:33

charming devil.