This week the guys kick things off with their final horror movie review of the season with the latest from the Saw franchise, Saw X currently in theatre or available for rent on ITunes. Then its all things NFL, Josh McDaniels finally out as HC for the Raiders and can interim HC Antonio Pierce help right the ship; biggest surprise from week 8, which trade aqquisition were the guys most impressed with and of the bigger named players that didn't get moved who was the most shocking, Staley recaps his Steelers lost to the Jags, Stoner celebrates his Lions dub on MNF in turn dismantling the Raiders front office,  and then wrap 188 with week eight of the Staley and Stoner Six.