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From iHeart Podcasts. This

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is Supreme The

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Battle.

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For Row.

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Roll against Wayne.

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Starring Maya Hawk and William

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H. Mason.

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Whenever We are ready, Mister Chief

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Justice and Maya played.

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The Court episode eight

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when Harry met Sarah?

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What time is it?

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Almost midnight?

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Charlie?

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Should we stay?

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And we stayed till the Boss goes home?

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This will be the fourth all night of this week. I

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need to sleep.

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All right, you go home? Then, seriously

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you should sleep.

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What research is he on now? He

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had me find translations of ancient Greek texts

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on medical ethics yesterday.

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I know it's bad.

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Is he any closer to deciding which way he's

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voting?

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At least?

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Don't so? The spotlight's paralyzing

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him.

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Blackman shouldn't even be writing this opinion?

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Yeah, no, kidding. You don't think he

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knows that with.

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The screwed up way that Chief assigned it, half the

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country is going to lose their minds whichever

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way he comes down.

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Oh, you know the only thing that'll piss the country off

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more? What if

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there's no decision at all.

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Dottie, I'm trying to get some sleep.

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I can see that. Ary, then let me be

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that I can't do my love.

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Why do you insist on torturing.

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Me, Harry.

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We've been married for thirty years and I've never

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seen you sleep past eight am.

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And it's eleven morning

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or night.

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Harry, I'm joking, Dottie, Honey,

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I'm worried.

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The girls are too, don't involve

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them. But there's

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nothing to worry about.

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Dear Harry.

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What's left of your hair has gone totally.

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The bags under your eyes look too

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big for carry on. You're

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up in the middle of the night every night, when you're

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even home, pacing like a vampire.

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And that for the melodrama, Dottie, Oh

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yeah, and you're lashing out at your loved ones.

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Come come here, sit down please.

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I'm just trying to find some balanced sweetheart.

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I'm sorry, balance for what? How

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in the hell did I find myself in the position

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of being responsible for the rights of every

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woman's body for the foreseeable future.

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How on earth did that happen?

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Don't give me that, Harry.

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Don't give you what the woe is me.

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I'm just a poor boy from Dayton's Bluff and I

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tripped and fell into being one of the most powerful

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men in the nation. It won't work on me.

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You're more ambitious than you like to admit,

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Harry Blackman, Dottie.

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If I'd grown up anywhere else and

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my childhood best friend hadn't become Chief

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Justice, do you think there's any

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chance.

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In the world le be where I am now?

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Yes?

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Really, yes, Harry.

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My best friend from childhood has been divorced

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three times and owns a horse ranch in Los

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Angeles. We all don't just naturally

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become our best friends. You're

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on the Supreme Court because it's where you belong,

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not because of who gave the toast at our wedding.

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What do I do? Dot?

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You start by making a decision

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here?

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No, No. Once I do that, the

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real trouble begins.

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The language and guidelines are maddening

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to work out. If we strike down

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the law, do we make it legal in just the

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first month? First two months

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the date of viability?

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Somehow? The choice is entirely

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up to me.

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Would you rather someone else be deciding?

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Be honest?

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Who else would you trust to put in as much time

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and research and real deliberation

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into this as you?

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Their good told me a story horror

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story in baker Vy

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car Are a few years ago. The opinion

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was assigned to Charles Whittaker. Justice

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Whittaker found making a decision in the

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case so tormenting that

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he had a nervous breakdown. They had

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to hospitalize him in a mental

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asylum. He couldn't even attend

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the final vote. He resigned

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from the court right after the decision. The

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case literally drove him to the madhouse,

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Dottie, And that was a case

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about redistricting.

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Harry, you would love a stay in a mental

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asylum, getting to sit in rocking chairs

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and read your books all day.

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That'd be a vacation for you.

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It does sound pleasant, doesn't it.

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Forget it. I'm not Justice Whittaker's

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wife. I'm Justice Blackman's Now

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get up and get dressed. Stop feeling

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sorry for yourself, and I'll warm up your

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breakfast. And remember,

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Warren could have assigned this decision to anyone.

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He chose you. You're

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the one he knows can win people to your side.

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I wonder if that's the real reason, Harry.

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They're good like the tennis shoes.

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Oh yes, I thought I'd go

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for a walk clear my mind. One of

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my clerks suggested I keep a pair in my chambers

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closet.

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Where's the draft, Harry?

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It's coming their good, it's still

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in process, and what exactly does that mean?

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You'll have it soon now?

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If I want to get to the Lincoln Memorial and back

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before conference, I need to.

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I've only been on the bench a handful of years,

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Harry, but I've argued thirty two cases

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here as a lawyer.

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I'm well aware.

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Good, then maybe you'll give credence

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to what I'm telling you. This isn't like handing

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in your homework late in school, Harry. I

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know that because women are dying while you're dragging

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your feet.

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You understand me.

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You're out of line, the good.

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Working inside the lines. It's never been my strong

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suit, and you need a kick in the ass.

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I'll have a draft soon.

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You never should have been assigned the decision in the

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first place, Harry. That's not a knock on

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you. It's just a fact. Don't

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exacerbate it.

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I thought we'd have the soup you like tonight. Ron,

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the store finally got those croutons, all

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right? How's the table coming together?

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All right?

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Stimulating as always?

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Ron, who's that well?

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Don't sound so startled, Probably just want to wanting

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to borrow a vase.

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Just be careful, Sarah.

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It could be one of those crazies.

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Hi is Sarah?

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Get over here. Ron, it's definitely one

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of the crazies. What sorry, inside

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joke, George, what are you doing here? Get

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in this house? Look

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who's here?

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Rong?

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You didn't tell me George was coming by.

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I didn't know.

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Hey George, great to see you

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doing a little construction. Ron.

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Oh, just making a table. Wait to occupy

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myself. I hope I'm not disturbing. I

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called, but couldn't get through.

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That's my fault. I was on with Mama for an hour

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this morning. I don't think I've

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seen you since Ron's campaign a couple

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of years ago.

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George, literally not since the concession

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speech. I still blame myself for that one.

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Ron.

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You should be state reping able right now.

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Lord knows you'd be heading shoulders better than the boy

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that got in there.

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You can say that again. But it's not your fault,

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George. You did a hell of a job as a campaign

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manager.

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I've been following your career pretty closely, Sarah.

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Congratulations on your case.

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Oh stop, I haven't won anything yet.

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That's not true. You won in Dallas. Say

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when is the Supreme Court announcing his.

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Decision, supposed to be a month ago. At

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this point, your guess is as good as mine. I

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call over there all the time, but they won't

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tell me what the hold up is. No one seems to know.

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Hey, Sarah Hunt, you want to fix

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George and me some snacks and coffee? We

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can sit in the living room.

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George, Oh no, that's not necessary.

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Run.

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Don't be silly happy to what can I

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make you sandwiches?

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Sarah? Really, you don't

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need to bring anything? Which just sound great?

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Hun, So

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what do you think, George want

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me to take another run in the election? I

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got a lot of ideas about what I do different this

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guy?

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Actually, Ron, I was hoping

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I.

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Could which race we even talking

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about. I appreciate your

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confidence, but I don't think I have a prayer to

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be Maxwell. Nobody does.

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We actually have our eyes on the State House?

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Ron?

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Really here in Dallas, isn't

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that wonderful? Well that's

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quite a You think I have the profile

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for that?

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Well, I'm actually here

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to talk to Sarah.

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About it me. Oh

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okay, how about it, Sarah?

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You want me to run for the state House? Ron

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is the one you should be talking to.

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You've garnered some serious attention from your

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case, Sarah, the youngest woman ever

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arguing in the Supreme.

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Court, youngest person.

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Actually, I think you have a real shot

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and I like to run campaign. Well, i'll

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be I'll take some of that coffee,

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Sarah. Let's go out back on the porch chat

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about it.

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You don't mind, do you run?

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No? No, I guess all

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right.

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Let's talk. Oh,

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Ron, do you mind stopping that kettle

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from whistling? Thanks?

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Dear, sure thing, Sarah, sure

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thing.

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What have you got for us there, Charlie.

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It's Justice Blackman's first draft.

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Sir, first draft of What Warre

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in Peace? It's five hundred pages.

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He knows it's on alongside your runner. This

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has gotta be a joke.

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No, I don't believe it is. Bill Blackman

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is paralyzed forty

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pages of discourse on the history

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of abortion, a

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five hundred page decision, and I

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can't find the decision.

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And I believe that may be the point. Charlie,

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come on in here, you drop the copies off.

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Just it, sir, all the justices now have it?

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Excellent? Excellent? Any initial responses?

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Come on, let's have it.

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Justice Blackman candidly, I

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don't think we're going to get the responses

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that you're hoping for.

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And what exactly is their problem?

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The other justices expect a decision on

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the constitutionality of abortion, Sir,

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the crux of Missus Whittington's argument,

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Well.

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They'll get it.

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This draft is merely a jumping off point

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to begin more discussion.

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Sir. I think that might have been acceptable

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to them a month or two ago.

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But at this point, what

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exactly are my colleagues saying, Sir?

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I no longer think this is a legal issue.

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What on earth does that mean?

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It's a political one. It's about

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us winning votes.

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You sound like a certain Chief Justice,

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Sir.

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Justice Marshall is threatening to go

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public with what he sees as an unfair

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process.

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What on earth are you talking about?

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Justice Douglas, is deemed that the Chief assigned the

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decision to you, Marshall, Greece.

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An internal disagreement and the Supreme.

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Court has never been aired publicly

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before. No, sir, it's a bluff maybe,

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But word around here is that Marshall

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instructed his clerks to leak a memo to the

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Post if your decision isn't brought about soon,

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damn it. If I may, your honor,

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we need to take a stand. Whichever way you're going

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to come down on the issue. The important thing.

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Is to act, Charlie.

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Do you know what the first line of the decision will be,

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Sir, the decision it will

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begin, Blackman. H

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Delivering the opinion

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time is not the most important factor, Charlie.

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Getting it right is to the

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country at large. I will

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appear responsible.

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Your honor.

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You look a little green, sir, Oh, just

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as Marshall. Hello, Justice Blackman

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is occupied at the moment, your.

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Honor, Yes, I can hear that, Charlie.

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Leave me with him, Yes, your honor, Harry,

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it's third. Good, come on out here.

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You all right, Harry, not particularly

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no, I gather

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you don't think much of my draft.

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You know why, because I told

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you to write a decision, Harry, and

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what you wrote is a question. When

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I first came to court, Justice

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black gave me a little advice. He

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told me to never display agony in public.

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Always present as if the answer is

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obvious and clear. The

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public should know that decisions which affect

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their lives could often just as easily

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come down the other way. It's not

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as if I don't understand your predicament,

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Harry.

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No offense.

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They're good, but unless you're sitting where

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I am, let me take a shot.

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Nixon specifically chose you for

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the seat because you were supposed to be uncontroversial

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after his first two nominees were rejected.

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And now your pal the Chief has

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ensured that whichever way we come

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down on this issue, you're going to be one

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of the most controversial men in the country,

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maybe in the country's whole history.

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That about it and about sums it up.

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You know, here's the thing, Harry, half

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asking the decision is not the way out.

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Half asking.

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This must be one of the most well researched,

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well thought out drafts written here

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since Wendell Holmesy.

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No one's accusing you of not doing

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your homework, Harry. We

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know you're brilliant, we know you're

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working hard, but your draft

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doesn't address the core issues.

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All due respect, they're good.

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The hell it doesn't all the social

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and religious approach, every one

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of them.

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And the medical and legal approaches going

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back to ancient times. We don't

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need a history lesson, Harry, We

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need a conclusion. Your draft

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doesn't take a stand, but how

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could it when all due respect.

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You're a tough, comfy away in the chief's

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pocket.

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Are you trying to get a rise out of

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me?

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Hell?

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Yes, I'm trying to get you to stand

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for something.

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Man, Now go to it.

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What are you doing out here?

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It's four in the morning.

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There rerun in the late show Mary's on. Remember

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that one Ernest borgnine, Betsy Blair.

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You become a worse and sony act than me.

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Have some t careful it's

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hot, he slept

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it all. How the hell can I sleep

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wrong? No one will tell me anything.

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The decision was supposed to come down months ago. It

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keeps getting delayed and delayed, and I have no idea

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why.

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It means you gave them a lot to chew on run.

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When I asked you how I did, never

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mind?

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No what.

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When I asked you afterwards how I did in court?

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You said you would have given me a B plus.

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And I would have.

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A B plus is an excellent mark in law

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school.

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You know that?

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Okay, Okay, I

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just I feel like I can't move on with

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my life until we have a decision. I

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gotta see it settled.

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You give any more thought to running the campaign?

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I don't know. I don't think I'm

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cut out for politics. Run.

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It's not my nature, of course, it is.

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Everybody loves you, Sarah. Besides,

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you're a famous attorney. Now take

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advantage.

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Would you like a wife who's a state rev.

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Honestly, probably easier

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for me than you being a lawyer. Every firm

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I interview with just wants to hear about you,

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like they.

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Don't even know how big a role I played in Row.

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I really am sorry about that.

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Run.

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I know you probably don't believe me, but.

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I am oh sorry for what

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all of it for.

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You not getting the credit you deserve, For the time

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and energy I had to put into taking care of the case

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instead of taking care of you, the

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money problems it caused us, the death threats, losing

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our friends. You are a truly

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good man for putting up with it all.

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Wrong, Sarah.

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I got a call last week from

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Sissy Farenthold.

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Cissy what she wants.

16:26

She wants me to come work on her campaign. She

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has a real shot at the governor's chap after the

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scandal in Sharpstown.

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You're right, she does.

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It's a paid position.

16:37

Sarah, sounds too good

16:39

to pass up.

16:43

We agreed to stay married as long as we were both

16:45

happy, Sarah.

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That's true.

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We did come to bed

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soon, okay,

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Harry, Yeah,

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I'm awake.

17:11

You slept through dinner again.

17:14

I know I'm

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drowning, Doddie.

17:18

I know it feels that way. I promise

17:21

you you're not. There's

17:24

someone here to see you.

17:25

Are you feeling all right, Daddy?

17:27

Sally? What are

17:29

you doing here?

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She came to talk to you, Harry. I'll

17:32

leave you to.

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Her.

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Guy who's been in bed as much as you lately. You

17:38

don't look very well rested, Daddy.

17:41

Forget about me? How you doing? How's

17:43

school?

17:44

Professor Lowe talked about you in class last week?

17:47

Do I even want to know?

17:48

It wasn't mean.

17:49

He was curious why the decision

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on Roe Wade hasn't come down yet.

17:53

That seems to be the question.

17:57

We never talked about it, you know about

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what?

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Of course we did. We did nothing but talk

18:03

for quite some time. What

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you would have broken the law?

18:10

Sally?

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Doctor was trustworthy, not

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some butcher. You could have

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arranged that with your contacts, couldn't you?

18:17

Sally?

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I was nineteen, Daddy, I

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was a sophomore. It was terrifying

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that I got pregnant. You think I wanted

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to drop out of school and marry Rick.

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But you're back in school now.

18:30

It all turned out alright in the end.

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Only because I had a miscarriage three

18:34

weeks after the wedding. If I hadn't, Rick

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and I probably would still be married and

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miserable. I

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wanted an abortion, of

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course.

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I didn't, Sally.

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Am I supposed to pretend to otherwise?

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Why didn't you say anything?

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Why didn't I tell my father, the federal

18:52

judge at the time, that I wanted an abortion?

18:55

Fair point.

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I came to you and Mom, I

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told you we were in trouble. When

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you didn't come back to me with the name of a doctor,

19:03

I thought. I thought that was your

19:05

way of saying it wasn't an option.

19:07

The effect of inaction?

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What nothing? Just something.

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I seem to be accused of a

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lot lately. You'll

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have another husband, Sally, and children.

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Stop just stop.

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I don't know what to say.

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I'm sorry, Sally.

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I believe you, and

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I believe in you.

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You need to get some rest.

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Mom's really worried about you.

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I guess I just wanted to tell you that

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you're going to do great.

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And what if I can't decide? What

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if I'm paralyzed.

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When I was procrastinating on some school

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assignment once you told me that writer's

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block was a failure of ego. It's

19:56

not that we can't write, it's that we

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don't think what we have to say will be

20:01

particularly interesting to anyone.

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You have a mother, three daughters,

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and an amazing wife Daddy.

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Considering the other candidates, I

20:15

think the country is really lucky to

20:17

have you as the one making this decision.

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Dotty, what are you doing up?

20:31

Well?

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How was your chat with Sally enlightening?

20:36

Where on earth are you going at this hour? Harry

20:38

one, guess you're going to the courthouse.

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Is it even.

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Open, Dottie?

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They gave me a key. It's time to make

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a decision. Oh, don't wait up, sweetheart

20:47

and listen. Thank

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you, Dotty. I don't say it enough, but none

20:51

of this would be real without you.

20:53

Oh I know.

20:54

And you're right.

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You don't say it enough. Now go put an end

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to all this, yes.

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Ma'am

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your honor.

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Oh hello, sorry, I didn't

21:24

mean to startle.

21:27

Hello there, I didn't know anyone who was

21:29

at the courthouse this late.

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You're Malcolm, our new records cleric Stephen.

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Actually, yes, sir, Stephen.

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Stephen right, someone

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told me this is where I could find a copy of the

21:39

dissents in the Griswold case. Truth

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be told, I've been wandering around for twenty five

21:44

minutes looking for this office.

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They keep me pretty well hidden, your honor. But

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those files would actually be in the records room

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in the basement. Let me get

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them for you, sir.

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Really only because it'd

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probably take me two weeks. Stephn, locate

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the records room, not a problem.

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Just give me a mat.

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Hello, Stephen, No U

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Stephen just stepped away for a minute.

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But this is the court clerk's office, right, yes,

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yes, it is great. This is Sarah wedding

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too.

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Oh, I see. I'm

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sure Stephen will return in a Maybe.

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You can help me. I'm going

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a little nutty here. You have

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been given any indication of when we can expect a decision

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in roeby Wade.

22:38

I'm afraid not. I really should go No,

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wait.

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A second, will you. It's just I've

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called and talked to Stephen like ten times.

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He never knows anything either. You

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know. I actually feel bad

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for the.

22:52

Justices comeing in.

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My part's done. Say, it's a

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hard job.

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Now, I

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hear you gave a very fine performance, Missus

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Weddington. No matter what happens,

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you should be proud, Missus

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Weddington, if you don't mind my asking what's

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next for you?

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Honestly, I don't have a clue.

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Some people around here have asked me to run for the legislature

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politics.

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Really, I know I.

23:20

Know politics, but I'll

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tell you it's an awfully strange

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feeling to know that the most important thing I'll

23:27

ever do in my life is over at twenty six.

23:30

It's an awfully strange feeling.

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You're my daughter's age.

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Oh you have a daughter?

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I have three.

23:37

You're lucky men with daughters.

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They just understand women more, you know what

23:42

I mean? Except for Nixon. I

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don't know why Trician and Julie let him get away with

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the crabby pulls.

23:48

You think they have a say?

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Do you?

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Are you? Kidds? Any self respecting

23:53

daughter would be ashamed to have her daddy so poorly

23:55

trained. But then what do

23:57

I know? I couldn't even get my father to

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come watch me. Are you in the Supreme Court?

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I'm sorry to hear that he's a.

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Minister and you can imagine how he

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feels about my involvement in all this feels

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like every day we move further and further away from

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each other.

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My youngest daughter.

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Is a

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hippie and I'll

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bet you just hate that.

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I do, I really really do.

24:24

Don't let the girls fool you. They

24:26

may play it tough like they don't need you.

24:28

Trust me. It's just next.

24:32

I should go.

24:32

I'm glad you answered, and Fitness Steven, are

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you a new clerk?

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I'm I.

24:38

I wish I had more information for you about

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your case, Missus Whittington, but.

24:44

I think I think

24:47

soon.

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Yeah, yeah, terrific.

24:51

You take care of those daughters now, and every

24:53

once in a while, give them a little more credit than you think

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they deserve. They may just surprise

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you.

24:59

Goodbye, now, goodbye everything

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all right, Justice Blackman?

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Who is that on the phone?

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Thank you, Stephen, It

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was just I should get back to my

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office.

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Here are the files you ask for, your honor. Are

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they to help you make a decision on the abortion case?

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No?

25:21

Actually, I believe

25:24

I've made one. Now

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the hard part begins.

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