It's a music episode, people. Richard chats with Karl Hofstetter, owner and creative mind behind Joyful Noise Recordings, about record flippers and following your own path as a label. Yes, the audio quality for the interview is noisy but you'll get over it. Next, Richard talks about a cool Secret Santa vinyl gift exchange he did and invites his lucky recipient Ryan on the show for a quick hangout session. They also discuss R.E.M., Richard's favorite band of all time, for a hot minute. Thanks for all your listens and likes and support this year. We're looking forward to more Surface Noise in 2017 with you. As always, you can reach us anytime with your opinions and corrections at [email protected] or @surfacenoisepod on Instagram and Twitter.