Episode 4 of SustSpec. A podcast dedicated to the discussion of modern Sustainability practices and experiences.

This episode takes on the issues of idealism and pragmatism both in the current political realm and sustainability as a whole. We sit down with Modou Cham from World Information Transfer (http://worldinfo.org/) and hear his thoughts on the matters at hand and what matters to him.

WIT on Health and Environment: April 26th http://worldinfo.org/wit-conferences/twenty-fifth-conference-2016/

Check us out @ www.sustspec.com and also check out our musical benefactor: Zayle @justzayleOpening Music: https://soundcloud.com/justzayle/gorgeousClosing Music: https://soundcloud.com/justzayle/water-tortureInterludes:Roulet:Rise & Shine: https://rouletproducer.bandcamp.com/track/rise-and-shineSunny Dat: https://rouletproducer.bandcamp.com/track/sunny-day

Read our interview with Grace Bello of Columbia SPS:http://sps.columbia.edu/sustainability-management/news/sustainability-management-graduate-students-create-new-podcast-series

Stitcher Radio Station: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=86542&refid=stpr