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Second Grave

Released Thursday, 9th March 2023
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Second Grave

Second Grave

Second Grave

Second Grave

Thursday, 9th March 2023
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0:04

How to dig a grave?

0:08

Before you get digging, consider the

0:11

weather. Set up a tent

0:13

to block the sun. Or the

0:16

rain. Then define

0:18

the area you want to dig.

0:22

Usually, the rectangle is ninety

0:24

inches long by thirty six inches

0:26

wide. Remove the

0:28

top layer of soil with a flat

0:30

edge shovel, and

0:32

move it off to the side. Step

0:35

on the edge of the shovel and plunge it

0:37

as deep as possible into the earth,

0:41

rocket back Lyft,

0:44

turn, drop.

0:47

Don't be afraid to put your whole body

0:50

into the motion. You'll

0:52

be stronger than a Harvard rower

0:55

in no time. It's

0:57

probable that you will eventually run

1:00

into roots and hard dirt.

1:03

Immovable objects that will

1:05

prevent you from digging any deeper.

1:08

In a proper burial site,

1:10

there will be heavy equipment there

1:12

to help you remove and excavate the

1:14

site. But this

1:17

is no ordinary cemetery.

1:20

Out here in the woods amongst

1:22

the decaying leaves and crawling

1:24

insects, a young

1:26

girl's body is lowered

1:29

into the ground and

1:32

not nearly deep enough. There

1:35

is no headstone. The

1:38

weeping mourners are nowhere

1:41

to be seen, but they

1:44

do not know where their loved

1:46

one is buried. They

1:48

only know that

1:51

she has vanished. Welcome

2:08

to sword and scale nightmares.

2:11

True Crime for bedtime. Or

2:14

nightmare begins now.

2:29

Nine year old Elizabeth Olson was

2:32

afraid of the dark. What

2:34

little girl isn't? After

2:36

all, As the sun began

2:38

setting at six thirty PM on October

2:41

twenty first two thousand nine, Elizabeth's

2:44

mother was keenly aware of this

2:46

fact and wondered why her

2:48

daughter hadn't come back through the door

2:51

yet. Earlier that

2:53

evening, the house had been full of youthful

2:55

energy. Elizabeth was

2:57

practicing lines and songs for an upcoming

3:00

school play, annoying her

3:02

older siblings as her mom prepared dinner.

3:06

Then there was a knock

3:08

at the door, and a

3:10

familiar face added even more

3:12

childlike frenzy. To the scene.

3:16

It was Emma Bustamante,

3:19

Elizabeth's six year old neighbor

3:22

from a few houses down, Emma

3:25

wanted to see if Elizabeth could come

3:27

outside to play. And

3:29

when her mom said no at first, the

3:31

girls began pleading hopping

3:34

up and down and playfully begging to

3:36

be allowed to play together. You

3:39

can imagine the high pitched screams and

3:41

giggles that followed when Elizabeth's mom

3:44

finally lamented, allowing

3:46

them one hour as they raced

3:48

out the door. Telling Elizabeth

3:51

she had to be home by six,

3:54

but it was now

3:56

six thirty. Elizabeth

3:59

had her cell phone with her, but all

4:01

of her mom's non stop calls were going

4:03

to voicemail. Elizabeth's

4:06

mom also called Emma's house, All

4:08

the kids there were accounted

4:11

for. But Emma's grandmother

4:13

insisted that Elizabeth was never

4:15

there. Body

4:18

numbing panic starts

4:20

to set in, and

4:22

Elizabeth's mother calls

4:25

the police

4:27

They were there on the scene within

4:29

fifteen minutes. An

4:31

emergency ping signals placed

4:33

Elizabeth's cell phone, some

4:36

wear within the large tangled woods

4:38

of their surrounding neighborhood. This

4:41

location was somewhat alarming as

4:43

Elizabeth would not have needed to go

4:46

into those woods to walk the distance

4:48

back home from Emma's

4:50

house. Search teams

4:52

assembled at the extreme body

4:54

in paint shop at seven thirty PM

4:57

and began working their way through the

4:59

extremely dense forest floor

5:02

in hopes of locating and alive

5:04

and possibly terrified Elizabeth

5:07

Olson.

5:08

But the search continued through the night,

5:11

with no success. The

5:14

next morning at nine AM, the

5:16

Cole County Sheriff's Office announced during

5:18

their press conference that they were

5:21

in need of more volunteers.

5:24

An information hotline was set up

5:26

and by one PM, that afternoon,

5:29

the FBI was called in to

5:31

help with the search. By

5:34

two PM, it seemed Elizabeth's cell

5:36

phone battery. Had likely

5:38

died as it was no

5:40

longer responding to cell phone tower pings.

5:44

Search dogs were called onto the scene

5:47

Dive teams scanned ponds and rivers,

5:50

and home improvement stores like Lowe's and

5:52

Home Depot donated Rain

5:54

gear to help literally hundreds

5:56

of volunteers who showed up to look for Elizabeth

5:59

in the pouring rain. So

6:01

many volunteers in fact that some

6:04

had to be turned away. In

6:06

the meantime, there was really only

6:09

one more lead to go off of.

6:11

And that was the story of Emma

6:14

Bustermane, the six year

6:16

old neighbor who had begged for Elizabeth

6:19

to come play with her. That Wednesday

6:21

evening. Emma had

6:23

been interviewed by the FBI, but

6:26

her statement was simply that she and Elizabeth

6:29

had played for an hour as they had

6:31

promised. And then Elizabeth

6:33

started walking home, never

6:35

to be seen. Again, The

6:38

six year old neighbor girl Emma continued

6:40

playing outside until she got stuck

6:43

in some thorn bushes. At

6:45

this point, she began screaming

6:48

and crying for help. She

6:50

wasn't far from her home where

6:53

she lived with her grandma, eleven

6:55

year old twin, stepbrothers, and

6:58

fifteen year old step sister. Her

7:01

step sister, Alyssa Bustamante.

7:04

Was upstairs in her bedroom listening to

7:06

a mixed CD when she heard

7:08

Emma crying for help in the thorn bushes

7:11

below. Alyssa had

7:13

also been interviewed by police. If

7:16

she heard Emma screaming for help in

7:18

the briar patch maybe, she

7:20

would have heard Emma and Elizabeth playing

7:23

or seen where Elizabeth walked

7:26

off to. But while

7:28

Alyssa was aware that her neighbor had

7:30

gone missing, she didn't

7:32

have any additional information. But

7:35

around this time, something

7:39

unusual was found

7:41

in the backwoods behind the house where

7:43

Emma lived with her grandmother and

7:45

steps siblings. A

7:47

small, shallow hole, dug

7:51

into the ground, which

7:53

resembled a grave.

7:56

And by the look of it, it was the

7:59

perfect size for a

8:01

small child. There

8:03

was just 1 problem.

8:07

The grave was

8:09

empty. The

8:12

search for Elizabeth Olson was nearing

8:14

its forty eighth hour. At

8:16

an empty burial site, just

8:18

felt like a bad omen. But

8:21

then fifteen year old, Alyssa

8:23

Bustamante, Emma's step

8:26

sister who helped her out of the thorn bushes,

8:29

was brought out to the wooden area

8:31

where she casually admitted to

8:34

something strange. Investigators

8:37

processing the potential crime scene were

8:39

attempting to answer a set of

8:41

very important questions. Had

8:44

Elizabeth ever been, in

8:47

this empty grave? Was

8:49

she buried here at some point and then

8:51

moved? Or was

8:54

this just a random hole Well,

8:58

they were about to get their answers.

9:02

But in their place, a

9:04

series of far more curious

9:06

questions would begin

9:08

to arise. Why?

9:11

Did fifteen year old Alyssa

9:14

Bustamante, dig

9:16

a grave, shaped like

9:18

a hole in the middle. Of

9:20

the woods. A

9:42

list of

9:46

Bustamante had just told investigators

9:49

that she was the one who dug the

9:52

hole in the woods behind her house When

9:55

asked why she said she

9:57

just like digging holes, adding

10:00

that she would bury dead animals

10:02

when she found them. Terming.

10:05

Well, unless Alyssa was planning

10:07

on taking down a coyote rambo

10:09

style, this was no ordinary

10:12

animal burial pit for a squirrel

10:14

or a bunny. When

10:17

Missouri Highway Patrol detective David

10:19

Rice sat alyssa down for taped

10:21

questioning, She insisted

10:23

to him that

10:24

if you just like digging holes when she got

10:26

bored, that she played rugby

10:29

and loved getting dirt under

10:31

her nails, and that she would just

10:33

dig into whatever shape

10:36

came to her mind. Clearly,

10:39

detective Rice wanted more

10:41

clarity. Because to

10:44

his eyes, the hole was very specific

10:47

and unique in its shape

10:49

and size, a perfect

10:51

rectangle the size of a small

10:54

coffin, with shovel

10:56

marks, straight down. An

10:59

alarming sight to investigators no

11:01

doubt. Given the timing,

11:04

of the missing girl. Detective

11:06

Rice wanted to know more about

11:09

when Alyssa dug the hole and

11:11

more importantly, What

11:13

she was doing in the hour

11:15

leading up to her hearing her stepsister

11:17

crying in the thorn bushes outside

11:19

her bedroom window Also

11:22

present for the interrogation and

11:24

timing in with details when appropriate was

11:27

Alyssa's grandmother. Who not

11:29

only remembered Alyssa charging down the

11:31

stairs to help her step sister, but

11:33

also recalled that she saw Alyssa taking

11:36

a shovel. And walking into their

11:38

backyard forest the previous

11:40

Friday. Five days

11:43

before their neighbor Elizabeth Ol and

11:46

went missing. Well,

11:48

now that the matter of when the hole

11:50

was dug had been settled, It

11:52

was important to get the why.

11:55

Detective Rice was certain that Alyssa

11:58

hadn't been telling the whole truth No

12:01

pun intended. And

12:04

also, detective Rice pressed Elizabeth

12:06

further about that Wednesday. The

12:09

day Elizabeth disappeared. Alyssa's

12:12

initial story went like this.

12:15

She went to school that day and

12:17

got home sometime around four. At

12:20

five, she decided to go for a walk in the

12:22

woods. Her stepsister

12:24

Emma was supposed to come with, but

12:26

Alyssa said Emma was annoying

12:29

and that she ditched her.

12:32

Alyssa claimed that alone in the woods

12:34

she hung out at a pond

12:36

for a little while and then

12:39

made her way toward what she referred to

12:41

as a really cool cow pasture.

12:44

Whatever that means. After

12:46

an hour of peaceful moments

12:49

and enjoying nature, Melissa

12:51

walked home and went into her bedroom.

12:54

That's when she heard her stepsister Emma

12:56

crying for help. She

12:58

charged down the stairs and helped

13:00

her out. And when Emma noticed

13:02

some blood on Alyssa's clothing, Melissa

13:05

said she had started her period and

13:08

not to tell anyone.

13:10

By now, it was almost seven PM.

13:13

And as Elizabeth Olton's mom was frantically

13:16

calling the police to report her daughter

13:18

missing, Melissa said she

13:20

and her family, went to church,

13:23

which was hosting a youth dance

13:25

function. The following

13:28

day while hundreds of volunteers work,

13:30

coming the forest floor and

13:32

soaking in the rain, Alyssa

13:34

did what any devout Churchgoer would

13:36

do. Skip school,

13:39

smoke pot, and have sex with her sixteen

13:41

year old boyfriend, Dustin. Not

13:44

exactly what you'd call a concerned

13:46

citizen. But then again, she

13:48

was fifteen years old. So

13:51

what do you expect? Detective

13:53

Rice asked, Alyssa, Point Blanket,

13:56

she thought happened to poor little

13:58

Elizabeth Olson. Elizabeth

14:00

said it would take a sick person to

14:02

put down their morals and just pick a

14:04

nine year

14:05

old. She didn't think Elizabeth

14:07

was the kind of person who would run away

14:10

or stay out all night on her own.

14:12

From what Elizabeth knew over Elizabeth was

14:14

kind of girly, not

14:17

futuristic. And just

14:19

like Alyssa's stepsister Emma,

14:21

Melissa said that her neighbor Elizabeth could also

14:24

be annoying. Elizabeth

14:27

just assumed that the two annoying

14:29

girls decided to hang out with each other

14:31

while Alyssa was out in the forest. She

14:34

didn't seem to know much else about

14:36

the situation. But looking at

14:38

a neighborhood map and following the path

14:40

Alyssa aim to have taken on her peaceful

14:43

walk, it just didn't make

14:45

sense that Alyssa wouldn't have

14:47

seen her bumped into Elizabeth and

14:49

Emma at some point. During that

14:51

critical hour. Despite

14:54

the inconsistencies, Alyssa

14:57

said she would be willing to

14:59

take a polygraph. Clearly,

15:02

this line of questioning was reaching

15:04

a dead end. At which point,

15:06

detective Rice made a big pivot.

15:09

He asked Alyssa if she was aware that the

15:11

FBI did a search of her bedroom.

15:15

She was concerned about the marijuana seats

15:17

she possessed. detective

15:20

Rice said he didn't care about that.

15:22

He was more interested in the diary

15:25

they found. In the hours

15:27

leading up to Alyssa and her grandmother

15:30

sitting in that interrogation room,

15:32

the FBI had executed a

15:35

search warrant and discovered

15:37

that Alyssa's bedroom was

15:39

that of a deeply

15:42

disturbed teenager. There

15:45

were writings and drawings all

15:47

over the walls, some

15:49

in pen, some appear to

15:51

be written, in blood,

15:54

On one wall, the eerie silhouette

15:56

of a figure with slashes

15:59

across the forehead. Next

16:02

to it, the name

16:03

Emma, Alyssa's stepsister.

16:07

On

16:07

the next wall over a poem of sorts

16:09

that read, I cut

16:11

to focus when my brain is racing.

16:14

I cut to make physical what

16:16

I feel inside. I

16:18

cut to see blood because I like

16:20

it. I don't like to

16:22

cut, but I can't give

16:24

it up. Other walls

16:27

can tained cards and letters from

16:29

her father, written to her

16:31

from his prison cell. Strange

16:34

social media photos would eventually go

16:37

viral, namely

16:39

an image of Alyssa with

16:42

joker like makeup melting from

16:44

her eyes and mouth. Pointing

16:46

her thumb and index finger like

16:49

a gun to the head.

16:53

But amongst the muddy clothes and

16:56

shovels hiding under

16:58

a blanket, a journal containing

17:01

Alyssa's innermost thoughts was

17:03

found. Back

17:06

in the interrogation room, detective

17:08

Rice asked Alyssa if it made

17:10

her angry to think that police would

17:12

be able to read her secrets and

17:14

other private personal thoughts. If

17:18

Alyssa was upset, she

17:20

hardly showed it. She

17:22

muttered a nonchalant I

17:24

don't know. Yeah. The

17:27

detective asked her more directly. Do

17:30

you think they went through your diary.

17:33

And when she agreed, he talked

17:35

to her about forensic technology. And

17:38

explain that even if you've taken

17:41

a pen and scratched over what you've written,

17:44

every word, every

17:46

stroke will still be there.

17:49

The detective reminded, Alyssa, that

17:51

her nine year old neighbor, Elizabeth

17:54

Alton, was still missing.

17:56

Her family wanted to find her

17:59

and recover her. He told

18:01

her point blank, we

18:03

have your diary. We've

18:05

read your diary, including

18:09

the last entry. A

18:11

full minute of silence went by

18:14

as alyssa and detective Rice stared

18:17

at one another, weighing each

18:20

other out. Alyssa

18:22

Bustamante was

18:24

breaking and what she was

18:26

about to confess to was

18:29

more disturbing than

18:31

anyone could have imagined.

18:49

Detective Rice hadn't set out

18:52

loud what he'd read in Alyssa's diary.

18:55

He needed to hear the truth directly

18:57

from her. He once again

18:59

emphasized that Elizabeth's family needed

19:02

closure. And offered Alyssa

19:04

a chance to begin her story

19:06

again, asking if

19:09

this was planned or if

19:12

it was an accident. Alyssa

19:15

took the bait declaring it all

19:17

an accident and crying. With

19:19

her hands over her face. Her

19:22

second version of events was

19:24

somewhat confusing because it was

19:26

mostly a lie. But

19:28

Alyssa then admitted that

19:30

her nine year old neighbor Elizabeth was

19:34

with her in the woods. She

19:36

went on to say that she and Elizabeth were

19:38

just messing around in the forest. When

19:41

Elizabeth fell and hit her head,

19:44

which killed her. Not knowing

19:46

what else to do, Alyssa, built

19:48

a fire, and burned

19:50

Elizabeth's

19:51

spotty. Detective Rice

19:53

wasn't buying the story either,

19:56

patiently explaining that whether or not

19:58

Elizabeth's body was found

20:00

burned

20:02

They'd be able to tell the manner in

20:04

which she died. The

20:06

detective said to her nine year old

20:08

girls, don't just die.

20:11

And when Alyssa exhaustively insisted

20:14

again that they were messing

20:16

around, that Elizabeth fell

20:18

back. She hit her head and died. The

20:20

detective asked her something surprising. Was

20:24

her throat cut. Melissa

20:27

took a quick breath, finally

20:30

revealing the beginning of

20:32

the truth with a

20:34

simple yeah. Elizabeth's

20:38

grandmother, who'd been stunned into

20:40

silence over the last hour, wailed

20:44

in an utter dread and horror

20:47

at Alyssa's admission. Her

20:50

grandmother was then escorted out of

20:52

the interrogation room where

20:54

she continued screaming in

20:56

the hallway. The

20:59

shock, the horror of

21:02

realizing what your

21:04

own flesh and blood has

21:07

done. The guilt

21:10

of 1 what you

21:12

might have done to have

21:14

caused her to be this

21:16

way. Ultimately,

21:19

the third an actual

21:22

version of events was revealed.

21:25

Alyssa used her six year old

21:28

stepsister Emma to

21:30

lure Elizabeth outside on

21:33

that Wednesday evening. Elizabeth

21:36

was already armed with

21:38

a kitchen knife and

21:40

sent her sister home while she

21:42

and Elizabeth began the fifteen minute

21:45

walk into the woods directly

21:48

to where Alyssa had

21:50

already dug a grave five

21:52

days earlier. At

21:54

this point, Alyssa began

21:57

strangling Elizabeth. And

22:00

when that didn't kill her, Alyssa

22:03

slid her throat. And

22:05

then, Alyssa stabbed her in

22:07

the chest. She thought

22:10

only twice, but the autopsy revealed

22:12

it was eight times. Afterward,

22:16

Alyssa buried her just

22:19

as she had always intended.

22:23

Back at home, Alyssa washed the

22:25

bloody knife off in the sink. Leaving

22:27

it there. Then eventually

22:30

bumped into her stepsister, we'd

22:32

gotten stuck outside, in a

22:34

thorn bush. Emma

22:37

had seen blood that day, but

22:40

it wasn't from Melissa starting

22:42

her period. And then

22:44

there was the matter of Alyssa's diary.

22:48

In earlier entries, she'd written

22:50

about her suicidal thoughts and

22:52

wanting to burn her grandparents' house

22:54

down. She'd also

22:56

written about her cell phone dying

22:59

and she couldn't talk to anyone about the depression

23:01

and rage she was

23:03

feeling. In another

23:05

entry, she wrote, if

23:07

I don't talk about this, I

23:09

bottle it up, and when I explode,

23:12

someone's going to die.

23:15

But most important was the

23:17

entry she'd written on the

23:19

night of the killing. When

23:22

the diary was first obtained, This

23:25

final entry was completely scribbled

23:27

out in deep methodical strokes

23:29

of ink. But

23:32

just as detective Rice promised, Further

23:35

forensic analysis revealed

23:37

every chilling word, Alyssa

23:40

had written. I just

23:42

fucking killed someone I

23:44

strangled them and slit their throat and

23:46

stabbed them and now

23:48

they're dead. I don't know

23:50

how I feel at the moment it

23:53

was amazing. As

23:56

soon as you get over the oh my god,

23:58

I can't do this feeling. It's

24:01

pretty enjoyable. I'm

24:03

kind of nervous and shaky though

24:05

right now.

24:06

K. I gotta go to church now,

24:09

L0L. When

24:11

asked why she did it, Melissa

24:14

told detective Rice She

24:16

didn't know. She just

24:18

wanted to know what it was like

24:21

to kill 1. And Elizabeth

24:23

was just someone nearby. Following

24:27

her verbal confession, Alyssa,

24:29

led authorities directly to where

24:31

she murdered and buried. Nine

24:33

year old, Elizabeth Old When

24:36

she was first declared missing, searchers

24:39

were scanning the area for a scared

24:42

missing girl, not

24:44

a shallow grave, but

24:47

with this awful reality

24:49

in my mind. A closer

24:51

look revealed that Elizabeth was

24:54

not well covered with

24:56

parts of her body still exposed

25:00

The missing cell phone her mother insists

25:02

she take with her was still

25:05

in her pocket. A pair

25:07

of blue jeans with pink ribbons

25:09

on them. Now, reunited

25:12

with her family. Elizabeth

25:14

was laid to rest on October twenty

25:16

eight. Two thousand nine,

25:19

one week after her shocking

25:21

murder. This time her

25:23

tiny pink casket was brought

25:25

to a cemetery by

25:27

a horse drawn carriage where

25:30

she was given a proper burial surrounded

25:33

by loved ones who described her as

25:35

outgoing carefree. Lover

25:37

of Barbie, bike riding,

25:40

and animals. As

25:42

for the graveyard out in the woods,

25:45

Detectives were still unsure

25:48

that Alyssa was being truthful. But

25:51

she said that she acted alone and

25:54

told nobody what she had done.

25:57

After all, she'd spent the day after

25:59

the murder getting high and

26:01

having sex with her boyfriend, Dustin.

26:04

Surely, she confided something in him,

26:07

but who knows? The fact

26:09

of the matter is that two shovels

26:12

were recovered from Alyssa's bedroom.

26:15

Maybe he even helped her

26:17

out or maybe he didn't.

26:20

Over the course of the week after

26:22

the murder, sixteen year old Duston was

26:24

interviewed on eight different occasions.

26:27

He denied knowing anything about Elizabeth's

26:30

death, and when the FBI told

26:32

him about it, he became ill.

26:34

And vomited. Strangely,

26:38

he failed a polygraph. But

26:41

ultimately, he was never charged with

26:43

a crime. As

26:45

is typical and unfortunate in

26:48

these stories, it's only the

26:50

killer saga that continues to

26:52

fascinate us. After

26:54

being charged with first degree murder,

26:57

Melissa was certified as an

26:59

adult and plead not guilty

27:02

to the crime. Deers

27:04

went by as her trial

27:06

got delayed over and over again.

27:09

Until it was set, for early

27:11

twenty twelve. And

27:13

then on January ninth twenty

27:15

twelve, Alyssa withdrew

27:18

her not guilty plea adjusting

27:20

it to guilty of second degree

27:22

murder and armed criminal

27:25

action rather than having

27:27

a trial.

27:29

At one point, during Alyssa's sentencing hearing,

27:31

the victim's grandmother shouted from her

27:33

wheelchair.

27:35

Alyssa should get out of jail the

27:37

same day Elizabeth gets out

27:39

of the grave. Alyssa's

27:42

grandmother who had to leave the interrogation

27:44

room during her granddaughter's confession Once

27:47

again, ran out of the room

27:49

crying. Alyssa

27:51

was sentenced to life in prison,

27:54

plus thirty years. And

27:57

with the possibility of

27:59

parole. The following

28:01

day, Alyssa formally apologized

28:04

to Elizabeth's family. Saying

28:07

if she could give her life to get

28:09

her back, she would.

28:12

Over the years, Elizabeth Smother

28:14

filed a wrongful death lawsuit against

28:16

the pathway's behavioral clinic who

28:19

was treating Alyssa's mental health issues

28:21

and ignored very clear

28:24

signs that would have prevented her

28:26

daughter's murder. According

28:28

to the complaint, Alyssa's violent

28:31

propensity were well documented

28:34

from a young age, including

28:36

but not limited to a declaration on

28:39

her Myspace page, that

28:41

her hobbies were cutting and

28:44

killing people. A

28:46

video wherein Alyssa electrocutes

28:48

her younger brothers and

28:50

a picture of Alyssa holding

28:52

a knife to another girl's throat.

28:56

It should also be noted that Alyssa

28:58

had a centered suicide on Labor

29:00

Day two years earlier,

29:03

and had previously carved the word

29:06

hate. Into one of her arms.

29:09

Charges against the healthcare clinic

29:11

were ultimately dismissed. But

29:14

Alyssa continued to be listed as

29:17

the defendant. She was

29:19

ultimately ordered to pay Elizabeth's

29:21

mother five million dollars. Plus

29:24

nine percent interest until the debt

29:27

gets paid. Something

29:29

tells me it never will.

29:32

And while questions of Alyssa's potential

29:34

for parole were still swirling around,

29:37

given how young she was when she committed

29:39

her crimes, As of November

29:41

twenty twenty two, legislation that

29:44

might have granted her a parole hearing

29:47

was just overturned. So

29:50

for now at least, having

29:52

just turned twenty nine, Alyssa

29:55

Bustamante, isn't

29:57

going anywhere anytime

29:59

soon. Does

30:01

Alyssa deserve to

30:03

spend the rest of her life in prison?

30:06

For planning and committing, a

30:09

murder before she even got her driver's

30:11

license. Before you

30:13

answer, consider this, Back

30:16

in October of two thousand nine,

30:19

investigators found two

30:21

amateur graves. Out in the woods.

30:24

Remember, Alyssa originally admitted

30:27

to digging the empty grave they

30:29

came across It wasn't

30:31

until after her confession that

30:34

she took detectives to the

30:36

filled grave where

30:38

Elizabeth was actually

30:41

buried. To this

30:43

day, it's never been

30:45

clear. Who was

30:47

the second grave four. Was

30:50

it for Emma? Alyssa's

30:53

annoying stepsister? Or

30:56

was it meant for someone else,

31:00

just someone nearby, unaware

31:04

that the little girl behind them

31:07

just wants to remember what

31:09

it feels like to

31:12

kill If

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31:31

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31:33

good night.

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