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732: Stop going to Spam: DMARC, SPF and DKIM Explained

732: Stop going to Spam: DMARC, SPF and DKIM Explained

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732: Stop going to Spam: DMARC, SPF and DKIM Explained

732: Stop going to Spam: DMARC, SPF and DKIM Explained

Monday, 19th February 2024
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Oh look into syntax on

0:03

and this Monday hasty treat

0:05

were gonna be talking about

0:07

email All about. Stop.

0:10

Going to Spam D Mark Spf

0:12

Dk I am. These are all

0:14

things that you'd typically just except

0:16

as existing whenever you connect to

0:18

your email clients and largely him

0:20

might ignore, but we're going to

0:23

be talking all about what they

0:25

are and how it works within

0:27

your transactional email. My name is

0:29

Scotland's game developer from Denver with

0:31

me. as always. Is. West Boss

0:33

What's up was hey I'm

0:36

excited to talk about D

0:38

Mark. Spf. And

0:40

D Kim I the some

0:42

news sender requirements both from

0:44

Google and Yahoo in February

0:46

which is now. And.

0:49

If you do not, if you send

0:51

any type, the email weather is just

0:53

market email, transactional email or just from

0:55

your own domain name. Ah, you're going

0:57

to want you have to get this

0:59

implemented otherwise you're gonna be sent to

1:01

spam. Yeah. You get better

1:03

bring it as pf or else you're gonna

1:06

get burned and you also might give her

1:08

and gave you don't have the correct air

1:10

paul he'd outright nil service for your software

1:12

and I'm talking about Century. This podcast is

1:15

presented by Century but honestly it's such a

1:17

great service. If you're working with any the

1:19

stuff you got a server, your send an

1:21

email or it's good to know what's going

1:23

on. Meet your emails not even sending because

1:26

you have a bug. And. Ah, sentries

1:28

gonna find that bug for you in it? Tell

1:30

it, tell you how to fix it really quick.

1:32

So. Let's. Get going here

1:35

with glass custom email stuff.

1:37

I was like you. I.

1:39

Have written a lot of applications

1:41

that send. Email. Yep, I've

1:44

done so through many different email.

1:46

Clients. Many different email

1:48

delivery services. And.

1:50

The part in which you get to add

1:52

things to your Dns. Connect. Your

1:55

service and send email. Has.

1:57

Always been a big mystery to me. I

1:59

go to. Docks. I. Go

2:01

step by step. I copy and paste the things

2:04

they tell me to do it and then it.

2:07

Usually just works. Yeah.

2:09

So what? What is all this stuff?

2:11

I know you've done a little bit

2:13

of a dive here I'm interested in

2:16

hearing about like what all these things

2:18

actually are in this whole process here.

2:20

Yes, so we're gonna be talking about

2:22

Sdf D Mark and D Kim. I'm

2:25

being the mark aligned is a way

2:27

to get your A Dns set up

2:29

so that when you send an email

2:32

as your domain name via any method

2:34

that it will be. Properly.

2:37

Approved, Properly signed in and be allowed

2:39

and anything else I could. Anyone else

2:41

is trying to send email as you.

2:43

Then you can immediately towel all the

2:46

other email clients to send that directly

2:48

to spam or to quarantine them Will

2:50

talk about what the different options are.

2:52

So let's start by just talking about

2:55

like different ways that you might want

2:57

to send email. You have a domain

2:59

name syntax.sam and you're going to want

3:01

to send email and several different ways.

3:04

First of all, you probably going. To

3:06

want to send email via. google.

3:08

Work spaces because we have with a custom

3:10

Google workspace and up or Outlook or or

3:13

whatever you're using for email for your from

3:15

your domain name right? So Google. Needs.

3:17

To be able to send. Email on

3:19

your behalf as your domain name

3:21

right slots one and then use

3:24

of like transactional email so I'm

3:26

if we are sending a receipt.

3:29

Or like for my own courses. when

3:31

somebody by the course they reset their

3:33

password. There's an

3:35

update to something that's a a single

3:37

email that a sent to a single

3:39

user that is called transactional email and.

3:43

You. Often will use services.

3:46

Like. Amazon as as post

3:48

Marks and Grade Mandrill this to lots

3:50

of them out there. I'm and those

3:52

services like you're you're likely not running

3:54

your own mail servers. Ah,

3:56

you're likely using a service that will send

3:58

the mind your be. Because they have

4:01

all the infrastructure in place to do that.

4:03

I'm so that's what's referred to as transactional

4:05

email. And then you also have email were

4:07

could hold on. yeah sorry before you move

4:09

on from that. live even put another one

4:12

in front of you is Reece and is

4:14

one that I've been using reapply only yeah

4:16

that I rear a lot of authorities and.com

4:18

It was really easy to get started an

4:20

email for developers. It. It. Felt

4:23

very nice as an on boarding process

4:25

for this thing and a work. Effortlessly.

4:27

So. Shadow. to recent. So

4:30

what is? The

4:33

recent like is it is. I

4:35

don't think it's not. It's not

4:37

just another like and transaction. All

4:39

utility, right? They also have some

4:41

services on top of it. Yeah

4:44

there are some some services on top of

4:46

it. there's like react stuff i think your

4:48

feelings and like. Template. Stuff

4:50

inside. Oh yes, I compile your emails as

4:53

well. Yeah. Other, for

4:55

the most part, I found it to be pretty

4:57

cheap. For a zero dollars a month, you get

4:59

three thousand emails a month. On

5:01

hundred emails a day and if you're

5:04

running a side project. Yeah.

5:06

So that that's awesome. and then as a

5:08

lot of the next, only have his email

5:10

marketing says you're sending out a newsletter like

5:12

Syntax You should sign up for the syntax

5:14

newsletter by the way. got a syntax out

5:16

of him for his last snack Fact and.

5:19

It will want to see the you want to

5:21

send a newsletter out via. I use drip syntax

5:23

we use convert kit Mail Chimp is the big

5:25

one. As wild as lots of I'm out there.

5:28

They need to. They have their own email server

5:31

so they need to do as or like eternal

5:33

have like at least three different. Ways.

5:35

To send email. From.

5:37

Three different services but you all want

5:40

them to be sent as your domain

5:42

at West Boss or com or a

5:44

syntax die fl rets. Other things like

5:47

shopify like if shopify need to send

5:49

a you buy something from the shopify

5:51

store and you need to send a

5:53

receipt and use your own domain name.

5:56

Shopify needs to be able to send

5:58

email on your behalf. Now.

6:01

The. Tricky part is is that yes,

6:04

you want other people to send

6:06

email on your behalf, but no,

6:08

you don't want other people to

6:10

send email on your behalf because

6:12

there's spammers. Ten. Because

6:14

of the we email works, spammers

6:16

can. Send. Email and

6:19

Sit And literally just spoof the

6:21

fact that it's coming from West

6:23

Bizarre Com or Syntax Not a

6:25

fan and whether or not that

6:27

shows up in your spam or

6:29

not is up to Google or

6:31

have to Outlook or whatever email

6:33

you're using. but there are several

6:35

different ways that you can ensure

6:37

and sort of white list possible

6:39

servers to allow them to send

6:41

email on your behalf. Networking to

6:43

be done talking about right now

6:45

so you're ready. I'm. So ready

6:47

because this is of the that I think

6:50

a lot of people do hit the their

6:52

get put in the spam zone or they

6:54

he I feel like then the difference between

6:56

transactional and all these different types of email

6:59

and your application? eighteen Good harry if you've

7:01

never done it or haven't done it before.

7:04

Honestly, Like. Like. Me if I encounter

7:06

a problem. I. Have to reach

7:08

for customer support String of yes

7:10

and on. Educated in this stuff

7:12

So salt the first one is

7:14

Sps. There's two different ways that

7:16

you can sort of like validate

7:18

it's and guarantee that your email

7:20

as being sent a Cs and

7:22

D Kim and those two together

7:24

make up with called the marks

7:26

alignment or demar compliance. So Spf

7:29

allows you to specify which Ip

7:31

addresses or hosts names are permitted

7:33

to send email on behalf of

7:35

your domain name. So. What

7:38

I have to do is I

7:40

go into my Dns records for

7:42

my domain names and I say

7:44

okay here is my Spf record.

7:46

And. These are the domain names that

7:49

are allowed to send email on my behalf.

7:51

So I have to include Google on there

7:53

because Google law to send email before me.

7:56

Am I have to include postmark on there

7:58

because I use postmarked for trans. Email

8:00

and then I have to use.

8:03

Whatever the drip one is so drip itself

8:05

doesn't actually send the email they they use

8:07

another service. they have to add that one

8:10

on their in. What will happen with those

8:12

Spf records is. They. Will

8:14

go out each of those domain names and

8:16

find. All. The Ip addresses

8:18

that are associated with those domain

8:21

names and in basically create a

8:23

whole list of Ip addresses and

8:25

say these servers around the world

8:28

are allowed to send email as.

8:31

West boss.com or Syntax out of them.

8:34

And so. To. Be clear

8:36

I if you have multiple of

8:38

these services in your S P

8:41

S. Or do they?

8:43

I'll go in one record when

8:45

text record we I do my

8:47

you extract may only have one

8:49

Spf record it's different for a

8:51

dig him but for sts you

8:53

may only have one single record

8:55

and you can add multiple whose

8:57

names in that that tax records.

9:00

Nice you. May also see

9:02

A and Mx Am and what? those

9:04

you generally won't have to dip into

9:06

those. Those will also allow your sub

9:08

domains. And your and Max

9:10

records to send on your behalf

9:12

even started to say include those

9:15

by unless you're sending from sub

9:17

domains. Like. Mertz.syntax out of

9:19

them. You don't have

9:21

to add those two years Now at

9:23

the end of that Sdf record you're

9:26

going to see and all property and

9:28

it's either plus, all till the all

9:30

or minus. All in those will. Advise

9:33

the receiver. Of. What

9:35

to do with the emails if

9:37

they don't meet Sps? So we

9:39

I send an email to somebody

9:41

with an Outlook inbox and the

9:43

outlook. Well look up my

9:46

domain name. And. Check.

9:48

Hey. This person sent

9:50

an email from the server was that

9:52

allowed is that on the list of

9:54

possible servers that allowed to send emails

9:57

for west and if it is not.

10:00

In plus all looks at it

10:02

anyway. Till. The all I'm will

10:04

accept it but it probably will go

10:06

into spam or minus all they're just

10:08

going to reject as naming gonna go

10:10

into spam is gonna not even land

10:12

in the users and box is just

10:14

going to reject it all out. So.

10:17

That's the first one sps then

10:19

we also have teach him. And.

10:22

Dm is stands for.

10:24

Domain. Keys. Identified.

10:27

Mail and and what it does is

10:29

as a public key to your Dns

10:31

records to allow emailed receivers to verify

10:33

your outgoing sign email. So what does

10:36

that mean? While public key private key

10:38

was talked about as in the past,

10:40

I'm not going to go super deep

10:42

into At, but. Your.

10:45

Email Sander So in my case postmark

10:47

that sending If he's a transactional email.

10:49

what they'll do is they will add

10:51

a signature to the header of your

10:53

email that is signed with your private

10:55

key. Then you the receiver email outlook.

10:58

Whoever is actually receive an email will

11:00

be able to look up your public

11:02

key so you sign is your private

11:04

key. Nobody can see that you know

11:06

how to do any of the signing.

11:08

Your your email center takes care of

11:10

that and then the receiver will get

11:12

the. Public. Key. And.

11:15

It will say. Okay,

11:17

well I have the public key

11:19

Lemmy verify that. The. Hash that

11:22

was generated in the headers is.

11:24

Is actually something that could have been generated

11:26

are given that we now have the public

11:28

key. Manned. If it's

11:31

not, that means. One. Of

11:33

two things One. The the

11:35

contents of the email were changed at

11:37

some point along the right so it

11:39

was intercepted and changed and you to

11:41

say i won't at the same with

11:44

like Ssl certificate right if is intercepts

11:46

your website between your server and the

11:48

browser. Now. The public is

11:50

going allow is our. Not

11:52

some. And some a goof with it or

11:54

the other thing is that someone just sent

11:56

it from a a place that was not

11:58

allowed and are obviously. The key public key

12:01

I'm are not going to a line

12:03

in it's going to say hey, it

12:05

doesn't work. He acts which

12:07

is It's interesting that the more we learn

12:09

about ally these like security techniques, everything and

12:11

of kind of always being just like public

12:13

and private keys you know as a one

12:16

time that we've been using forever and ever.

12:19

As sells it ever gets. Ah, Pasties

12:22

we had the one password folks on

12:24

to talk about task is and and

12:26

now this the right. It's It's all

12:28

over the place. I'm The one thing

12:30

about this is it's it's It's not

12:33

encrypting your email. It's

12:35

encrypting. It's adding an encrypted header.

12:37

To the email based on some

12:40

pieces of the. Pieces

12:42

the email, some of the content, some

12:44

of the sender details, and if again,

12:46

if any of that data changes, then.

12:48

Year. Yourself out of luck these public

12:50

keys get added to your donate domain

12:52

name. Be a one of two ways

12:54

Attacks: Record. Or. Adding a

12:56

C name record and again, you don't

12:58

really worry about a year. Whatever service

13:01

you're using will tell you. A.

13:03

Copy paste this thing added to your domain name. You're good

13:05

to go. In. So.

13:09

Deep him. And. Sts

13:11

Two ways to verify that and

13:13

email was sent by someone who

13:15

is allowing that service Send email

13:17

on their behalf now and the

13:20

end and. You. The hoses them

13:22

to be clear. Well. Now you

13:24

don't. Ah, You should have

13:26

both have been. There are two ways to

13:28

verify that: email the jets arm and now

13:31

to take a step further. Someone.

13:33

Can still send email from a domain

13:35

name and it's up to the the

13:38

client to to catch that spam. Right

13:40

now this is where d mark alignment

13:42

comes in and when your email. Passes

13:45

Sps. And or

13:47

d kim. That. Is

13:49

referred to as being the mark

13:51

aligned and the Demarco policy as

13:53

a third saying that you add

13:55

to your domain name and it's

13:57

telling. The. Email clients.

14:00

Or the email receivers. what to

14:03

do when they receive email that

14:05

is sent on your behalf. So

14:08

you are outlook. You. Receive

14:10

an email from West boss.com. And.

14:13

Outlook will say okay. What?

14:15

Do you want Me to? do? With. This

14:18

this. This email

14:20

from Less boss.com West do.

14:22

I'll. I'll check if it's Spf compliant.

14:24

I'll check if it's. Ah

14:27

dick him compliant. And.

14:30

If it doesn't meet either of those, ideally

14:32

that meets both of them, but if it

14:34

meets one of them, Then.

14:36

It will say are it it's valid or

14:38

throat and the and box But if it's

14:41

not, you can tell outlook what to do

14:43

with that email because you've you say. Ah,

14:46

If. Anybody is sending email. My

14:49

be has. And. It doesn't

14:51

meet these strict records that I set

14:53

out. Then. I need you to

14:55

do one of three things first:

14:57

None. I do

14:59

nothing to quarantine it so

15:01

maybe put it in spam

15:04

folder. And than

15:06

three reject all out very similar

15:08

to that the Sps ones and

15:10

that's really important because not like

15:13

I'll I'll give an example of

15:15

when we started the convert kit

15:17

newsletter at Syntax. right? So.

15:20

We fired up the syntax domain name

15:22

and we fired up a new convert

15:25

kit and we started. Sending.

15:27

Email as syntax out of sam.

15:29

And. The next morning that email

15:31

from I T and said hey. You

15:34

send an email from Syntax out of them.

15:37

And. They immediately were notified That

15:39

said. It's. Because like the center

15:41

has very good eighty security they said.

15:44

Somebody. Is sending email on behalf

15:46

of Syntax that a Sam and it is

15:49

not in the list of allowed ways to

15:51

send email. At the time, we only had

15:53

allowed Google to send email from Syntax out

15:55

of them and now we are sending email

15:58

from Convert Kids. So he said. Yeah

16:00

up us Susan Okay no problem

16:02

let's be added convert kit to.

16:05

The list of allowable centers and

16:08

then that stuff was was D

16:10

Kim and D Mark aligned new.

16:12

That's all very interesting. Yeah I

16:15

saw him. Various is an I

16:17

thought like. As. Soon as that

16:19

happened like this, like immediately a regatta

16:21

message from them. and because like. Companies.

16:25

That send email are

16:27

extremely protective over. Bad

16:30

party sending email on their behalf see

16:32

had to be very strict in pretty

16:34

much as white list in. Who.

16:36

Is allowed right? And

16:38

the way that they knew that is

16:40

v of reporting so. Another

16:43

part of the T mark. Entry

16:46

in your domain name is you

16:48

specifying email address. That.

16:51

Email. Clients can send back to you

16:53

when something goes wrong so it's called

16:55

and are you a. An

16:57

arrow a sense for probably return.

17:01

Somethin. And. The.

17:04

Outlook Yahoo Email: Anyone that

17:06

accepts email will send a

17:08

report back to that email

17:10

address telling you. What? Has

17:12

happened telling you was it Spf

17:14

complaint was A D Kim compliant

17:17

and. And

17:19

was a D mark aligned. And then

17:21

those emails? Can you can? You can

17:23

send them right your inbox, but there

17:25

are services out there that will compile

17:28

them all and tell you how you're

17:30

doing because. When. You want

17:32

to? Like for

17:34

example, for me when I wanted

17:36

to move to the Mark strict.

17:39

Or d Mark reject. You. Have to

17:41

say okay Will like who is who? Am

17:43

I sending emails on my behalf? Rights you

17:46

might have. A shopify

17:48

you might have a snip car

17:50

you might have. ah. I

17:53

if I have five or six different things that were sending email

17:56

on my behalf and I was like oh man like. I

17:58

don't even know if I I. No all

18:00

the different services. That. Are

18:02

going on there. So the way that it

18:04

works is you set it up, You set

18:07

up the mark reporting. And you

18:09

set the the p which is what

18:11

happens. When. Something is

18:13

not deem, are compliant. you said it and

18:15

none. So basically they give me all the

18:17

reports. And then you you like

18:19

emails and for a couple days and nice and

18:21

look at your report and say. Are

18:23

these: This is a list of ever on us?

18:26

An email on my behalf and you can look

18:28

at and say yeah and I recognize that. I

18:30

recognize that. I recognize that and then also on

18:32

that list there will be a list of. And.

18:35

My kissers Six or seven different. Like

18:37

you're gonna see lots of spammers. The

18:39

spammers will use every single domain name

18:41

on their you're going to see. People.

18:43

That are trying to say email as you

18:45

and a half when. Funny thing that popped

18:47

up was. My. Courses.

18:50

So. In my courses we send

18:52

email and emi Courses we use

18:54

mail trap. And. And that's

18:56

just sending it. Doesn't send real emails, just

18:58

sends it to a service where you can

19:01

spoof the and and that's really nice. but

19:03

some people were taking my course and then

19:05

hooking it up to a real email as

19:07

some Tp service. But. They were not.

19:10

Taking. The West boss.com domain name out

19:12

because recording long as like well the

19:14

from addresses Wes I was about that

19:16

arms and people were like okay was

19:18

the From address is whether it was

19:20

Boss I farm so people words. There's

19:23

a couple of people that had apps.

19:25

That. Were just sending email as if

19:27

you are believed? How many when I'm

19:29

doing courses? How many times I have

19:32

to be like. This. And

19:34

Do Not use. This. Database

19:36

Path I I'm not blurring out the

19:38

keys or the database. You rl yes

19:40

to that way you can see exactly

19:42

what it looks like. but I will

19:44

be deleting this the moment that this

19:46

courses over and that yeah, we'll still

19:48

try to use that in that we

19:50

live in is working. O L L

19:52

was hilarious. So. Luckily

19:55

was only a couple but. I.

19:57

Recognize that and then in their you get also.

20:00

The couple spammers that are trying to send

20:02

email as you as well so you you

20:04

monitored all you effects, any issues and the

20:06

whole idea of monitoring it is. If.

20:09

You have something you forgot about. Like

20:12

strive for sending email on your behalf

20:14

for receipts or something weird like that.

20:16

You go. Oh, I forgot about that

20:18

one. Let me adjust my sps and

20:20

became records and then. After

20:23

monitoring for a couple days, you can set

20:25

it up to quarantine which is a sort

20:27

of one level stricter monitor for a couple

20:29

days and see like. And are

20:32

you get? You get hey your email went

20:34

to spam or hey I never got an

20:36

email from you. Check your spam. Oh there

20:38

it is you know and luckily know that

20:40

happened to me. I've been running quarantine for

20:42

about a week now I'm and then finally

20:45

though full go which is reject right and

20:47

then you say okay now I have put

20:49

in place is of the three areas that

20:51

can send email my behalf anything else anyone

20:53

else. using. My email as

20:55

a course thing or it ever

20:57

immediately it will reject and you

21:00

have nice strong email sending for

21:02

the marks. Compliance. Wow.

21:06

So. Crazy Aim. Yeah.

21:08

In so I guess the one question I have as

21:10

I know that he said that you know. Email.

21:13

Providers are very, very concerned about who's

21:15

sending email on whose behalf and spam

21:17

and things like that. The Us is

21:19

that just because if too many emails

21:21

get marked as spam from an address

21:24

to that does that hurt the Ip

21:26

address that it's coming from. Murders that

21:28

her yeah sender. Yeah. So

21:30

like like for example convert

21:32

kit, drip postmark, They

21:35

will be constantly monitoring spam

21:37

complaints against your emails and

21:40

if you go above a

21:42

certain percentage. They're. Going to say

21:44

like Ike I son and my postmarked by at least

21:46

once a week in. Just

21:48

take a look at it in his money of

21:51

zero which is good and every now and then

21:53

you you get people that are one who the

21:55

hell's this guy in only market a spam and

21:57

some answers or false positives. Yeah,

22:00

you get too many than that. Ip

22:02

address starts to get. Blacklisted,

22:05

And other people that are on

22:07

that service. Their emails will start

22:09

to affect the quality as well

22:11

so they are very very aggressive.

22:13

With. That type of stuff. Then

22:16

I'll tracks go he I'm I'm

22:18

other things. My. Google

22:20

Workspace. I his

22:22

boss type.com which is like my company right?

22:25

I just signed up as. The

22:27

Dome the main domain as Boss I've.com

22:29

but I don't use that to send

22:32

email. I use West Boss or Com

22:34

Send email. My wife uses Keep us.com

22:36

to send email so we have aliases

22:38

set up. In. Google

22:40

workspace and I you cannot

22:42

get. Dietz him alignment set

22:45

up with aliases and google workspace only

22:47

sps which at first I was like

22:49

oh crap but I had talked to

22:52

couple of the bottom line and they

22:54

said. It's that standard stuff.

22:56

See again, you only have to be

22:59

dk him or Spf. ideally both. but.

23:01

In. That case, I could only do Spf. So.

23:04

An alias is is not. is that like

23:06

a straight up. google. Feature I

23:08

know that. I've used Arms and

23:10

Google before, but is is there nice

23:13

respect their for doing aliases Outside of

23:15

that. Yeah yeah. like the the whole

23:17

email I'm. I'm spec

23:19

is. Like. If you look at

23:22

the headers have a specific email and let me

23:24

actually pull went off for a quick ones that.

23:27

So. When you send an email. There.

23:29

Are headers and it's just like a lot

23:31

like a web requests like information about and

23:34

there's two things as a from address. Who.

23:36

Do you want to to? appear? As.

23:39

But then you also have like

23:41

our our return address and that's

23:43

who's actually sending the email. So

23:45

if you take a look at

23:47

any of my emails that are

23:49

sent from West boss.com you'll see

23:51

the front addresses West boss.com But

23:53

the. Reply. To address

23:56

his boss, type.com and.

23:59

That's a fee. That you need because sometimes

24:01

you need to send it from your

24:03

your technically sending it from one domain

24:05

name but you wanted to visually appear

24:07

as a different domain name. Same thing

24:09

with with Century Right? Like we can

24:12

send email as syntax out a sam.

24:14

But. It's technically being sent

24:16

from century.io rather than those

24:19

are aliases between the two,

24:21

so. That's why

24:23

you need this Spf and teach him.

24:26

Alignment to be able to say

24:28

hey, I know I'm sending it from

24:30

the server, but. In reality,

24:33

I want us to show up as this different.

24:35

Ah, Actual you around. Very.

24:38

Interesting. Yeah. That's as

24:40

good. sasso. This isn't hundred percent

24:43

of staying out of the spam

24:45

folder. There's a other stuff printing

24:47

your list, frequency of sending contents

24:49

that are in there. There's all

24:51

kinds of stuff that you can

24:53

sort of play into. But because

24:55

De Mille and Yahoo. Have. Gone

24:57

so aggressive to say we will

24:59

not. Even accept.

25:02

An. Email if you do not

25:04

have. Your. Dmr compliance

25:06

in order. Is easy. Certainly

25:09

check it and the one place as

25:11

you can be a problem for lot

25:13

of people that the probably not thinking

25:15

about his wordpress plugins. You. Do

25:17

a password reset on wordpress. It's.

25:20

Just using the Kids Female function,

25:22

right? It's not using the unless

25:24

you're setting up some plugin to

25:26

use Wordpress. Some external transactional emails

25:29

is just sending an email via

25:31

the Peace Female function as sending

25:33

it straight from your server as

25:36

you do not have your servers

25:38

address. Of. Your kids

25:40

be server in your Ah Spf

25:42

and and D kim. Set.

25:45

Up then, though, these house for not going

25:47

to get to you and you're not going

25:49

to be able to reset your password when

25:52

you need to. That's. That's by

25:54

one place that people aren't necessarily thinking about,

25:56

so it's certainly check for that. Awesome!

25:59

Well. Thank you

26:01

thank you for I yeah so yeah

26:03

that's that's all we got. Hopefully enjoy

26:05

that and I will catch you later.

26:08

I think you peace. Peace.

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