Vine and Fig co-founder Pat Gothman and his fiancé Jacob Flores interview gay priest James Alison about his phone call with Pope Francis, what he thinks Pope Francis wants to happen in the church on LGBTQ issues, why the gay issue is more an emotional issue for the Church than a theological one, the unique spiritual insights that queer catholics have for the rest of the Church in this time of crisis, and a whole lot more!

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