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Tailenders. Hello

1:00

and thank you for having us on Tailenders. Thank

1:03

you for having us on Tailenders. Oh,

1:05

I'm sad that we're all in different parts of the world.

1:07

The last time we all spoke, we were having a

1:09

nice time in Bath and that carried

1:12

on into the very, very small hours

1:14

at Pizza Go Go. I didn't go to Pizza

1:16

Go Go. What was that like? It's

1:19

up there. It's in my top 10 pizzas. It

1:22

was a strange situation. Does

1:25

Jack Leach agree? Well, I was just asked, Jack

1:28

Leach, Greg and Sharky,

1:30

because all our phones have run out

1:32

of battery, so Jack Leach had to buy us all pizzas, which

1:35

he did generously. Did he?

1:39

Even though Jack Leach is looking very svelte

1:41

at the moment, he did order large pizzas

1:43

all round, which I had for breakfast as

1:45

well.

1:46

It was really nice. And that was

1:48

the perfect way to see out that tour. Firstly,

1:50

just to say thank you to everybody that came to see

1:53

us on tour in October.

1:55

We had an amazing time. We

1:58

are feeling sad that it finished.

1:59

but we had a really great

2:02

time, including an appearance

2:05

from Stuart Broad at the Hammersmith show

2:08

and you can hear the backstage interview

2:10

of that on BBC Sounds. That wasn't

2:13

in all the feeds, that was a BBC Sounds

2:15

exclusive, so you missed it. Just wanted to say

2:17

the broad interview, full-length

2:20

interview is on BBC Sounds.

2:22

It was good though, wasn't it? I was feeling a little bit on edge because we

2:25

were about an hour or two away from

2:27

doing the Apollo, so I remember feeling

2:29

a bit sort of like amped up

2:31

while having an in-detail conversation with

2:33

Stuart, but that probably lends its own energy to the conversation,

2:36

I imagine. I haven't listened back to it. I think it was

2:38

a really nice chat, lovely chat. We

2:41

talked about loads of things and it got some

2:43

new things out of him. We had

2:45

actual confirmation that Matt Chinten-Dulcke

2:48

named his book. Right. So

2:52

that was mad, that's worth listening to that in itself.

2:56

So highlights from the tour.

2:58

Jimmy, we'll go for you first.

3:01

Oh,

3:04

that's a tricky one. I

3:07

think Hammersmith's got to be up there

3:09

just for the reaction that

3:11

Broad got when he came out on stage. I think

3:13

that for me was something really special. We

3:16

did it a couple of years ago, I think, with Mark

3:18

Wood. Sort of a surprise again to the way

3:20

he came out. No one knew it was

3:22

coming, we didn't introduce him onto stage. Broad

3:24

just walked out on stage and switched

3:27

the bails, which were obviously chillies, and

3:29

the crowd's reaction was pretty

3:31

special. It really was. Felix,

3:34

are they a bit of the tour? Oh my

3:36

god. The other day I thought

3:38

to myself, maybe, well, I say not enough

3:40

praise was heaped on it. It was the close of the show, so

3:42

in a way it was. But Sharky's drum solos

3:45

got longer and longer every night and he really is

3:47

a man that is taken to those.

3:49

Like a shark to water because

3:52

those drum solos are getting more

3:55

and more eccentric as it goes on. So I was

3:57

happy for Sharky in retrospect that he got those. magical

4:00

moments. Other than that, I loved

4:02

Matt Chin's Ted Talk about how

4:04

to become a cricket influencer, even

4:07

though we think... Sorry, just quickly on Sharky

4:09

Fee. Oh, go on. Sorry, just

4:12

on Sharky, on that, we also

4:14

saw this week, like, Sharky's a man

4:16

after my own heart, he doesn't use

4:18

his smiling muscles that often.

4:20

But seeing his face

4:23

when he did that drum solo

4:26

was incredible. It was literally like a

4:29

kid on Christmas Day. He could have died.

4:31

Similarly, since the end of the tour, we've

4:33

seen him also sandwich between

4:35

Stuart Broad and Brian O'Driskell at an awards

4:38

ceremony. He had a similar smile

4:40

on his face. Sharky, you're living the dream. Which we've not

4:43

seen really during the recording of

4:45

these podcasts. Well,

4:49

Jim, actually, before you came on, I beg

4:51

to... He is in very good form at the moment because

4:53

he has just said to us before you came on the

4:56

Zoom, the thing of a tail enders live

4:58

show is you're never more than two minutes

5:00

away from a laugh. Sharky,

5:03

you faded up. Interesting.

5:06

Yes, you're faded

5:07

up.

5:09

Sharky, what was

5:11

your highlight of the tour? My highlight

5:14

of the tour was... It's actually

5:16

a post-tour, is that we've had a

5:18

lot of lovely emails into the tail enders inbox,

5:20

which I do monitor. And the feedback

5:22

has been wonderful. And the word

5:24

that keeps coming out is community.

5:27

And I think that's a wonderful thing that tail

5:29

enders has created. It's a brilliant community

5:32

where everyone sort of looks after each other and

5:35

buys into it. And it's a beautiful

5:37

thing to see and witness. So that's my

5:39

big take out. On that Sharknader, my favourite

5:41

bit of the show every night was getting the kids

5:43

up on stage and then playing cricket

5:46

with either Jimmy, Izzy,

5:48

Stuart Broad, Wayne Madsen,

5:50

Sophie Echorzen... Jack Leach, Kate Groth.

5:53

Jack Leach, Kate Groth. All for great. That

5:55

was... I think that

5:57

was my favourite moment because their faces were

5:59

so beautiful. are like, am I allowed to

6:01

do this? Shall I do it? Yeah,

6:04

go on. Greg, I'm really glad you said that because

6:07

one moment of maybe not community-based

6:09

spirit was he'll forgive me for saying it,

6:11

but a kid came into bat in one of the said

6:14

moments. Jimmy bowled at 100

6:16

miles an hour at him, swinging a ball away, trying

6:18

to nick him off, which was one of the most

6:21

intense vibrancy of Gameface

6:23

I've ever seen in my life. Jimmy cares to comment.

6:25

Well, I spent most of the tour getting

6:28

smacked into the crowd, all

6:30

getting bowled out by some

6:32

10-year-olds. I thought, you know what? This

6:35

one time, I'm going to ramp up a little bit

6:37

and get something out of it myself. So

6:40

I think I bowled in middle stump and wheeled

6:43

off aeroplane across the stage. Yeah, and

6:45

you gave him a send-off? Yeah, he gave him a send-off,

6:47

but there's one where you basically stuck it up his

6:49

nose. Yeah, I think that was someone

6:51

else. Oh, right, that was another night. I

6:53

did get

6:56

rev-messed at times.

6:59

Whether I'm getting hit into the stands at a cricket

7:01

ground or getting hit into the

7:04

crowd at Hammersmith Apollo, it still hurts just

7:06

the same. Matt

7:10

Shintendorka, your favourite moment of the tour? I

7:13

love the show, just meeting all

7:15

the tell-enders. The real treasure was

7:17

the friends we met along the way. The little different

7:19

tell-enders we met. It was lovely. Well,

7:22

mate, I think you've been humbled there because you had

7:24

a homecoming in Bath, which is beyond

7:26

any homecoming I've ever seen in my life. The

7:28

reception you got when you walked on? That

7:30

was good, yeah. That was like Elvis in Vegas.

7:35

And the worst country homecoming. That was good. Oh,

7:38

talking about, you know, you said about my

7:40

Intillancer TED Talk. That

7:42

I did. Off the back of that, huge

7:44

news coming in this week. I've

7:46

been verified on Instagram. Oh,

7:50

that is pretty big. I've got a blue tick.

7:53

I'm public property. You've

7:58

been public property since episode two, my friend.

7:59

I'll give you

8:02

a couple more moments, there's a lot to talk about so

8:04

I won't dwell on it but Giles Martin came and played

8:06

in the Apollo band which was incredible so he

8:09

got to talk Beatles and it was only the week

8:11

before the Beatles released their

8:13

song with Paul singing John's song

8:15

with him that was allegedly about

8:18

Paul himself and so Giles had done

8:20

all of that and then he came to perform with

8:22

us and we did In My Life by the Beatles

8:24

with Giles whose dad had written that song

8:27

with John for Stuart and Jimmy

8:29

which was a beautiful beautiful moment but

8:31

the thing we haven't

8:31

mentioned yet and I don't think

8:33

we did in the last podcast is one

8:36

character we met on the tour but

8:40

we were saving a certain Gen

8:43

Z Mr. Timmy Banderson.

8:46

Yeah very difficult

8:48

to explain Timmy

8:50

Banderson for those who haven't

8:52

seen it. Please try. But I

8:55

think we mentioned it on that podcast we did in the bus we

8:57

alluded to an idea we came up with.

9:00

Sorry. We alluded that the idea came to

9:02

us in the Rosencrown in Oxford and

9:05

it was a great idea well I mean

9:07

I think it all of us

9:09

except Jimmy thought it's a great idea from start

9:11

to finish but we

9:13

all had the idea that night and

9:15

Jimmy was like yeah that'd be so good to dress up

9:18

I can dress up as Timmy Banderson and be a Gen

9:20

Z American cricketer

9:23

who is crashing the stage at

9:25

tail enders and is like cause everyone boring

9:28

and so that night everyone was like

9:30

we're going to bed this is gonna be amazing next morning

9:33

Jimmy so furious completely

9:37

changed his mind that no f***ing

9:39

way I'm doing that no way no way no way no way

9:41

no way no way debuted

9:45

in Oxford at the new theatre which

9:48

yes it's ringing a bell because that's

9:50

where Anastasia played, start

9:53

to lockdown finished and on

9:55

that same stage Timmy Banderson another

10:00

across the pond legend was born. Timmy

10:02

Banderson had his first outing

10:04

there, dressed in, Jimmy, do you wanna explain your

10:06

clothing? Here's clothing. Sure, well,

10:09

me and you went to the

10:11

old charity shop, trying to get some,

10:14

basically what we see a

10:16

Gen Z person wearing. Yeah.

10:20

And I mean, I ended up just

10:22

looking like what I normally wear, but maybe a

10:24

bit of a jazzier shirt. Baggy jeans,

10:27

artist's own trainers. Backwards

10:30

cap. Backwards cap,

10:32

a vest and a sort of... A

10:34

vest. Multicolored short

10:37

sleeve shirt. Yeah, but it

10:39

was more about what you

10:41

said. Now, Sharkey, can

10:44

I just play it quickly?

10:48

I fired it up. Yeah, you fired it up. Were

10:51

any of those shows recorded? Yes, they

10:53

were. Okay, well, in that case, I

10:56

think the only highlight we need to play from

10:58

the shows, maybe the Hammersmith

11:00

one, because it's the one with Stuart Broadweb, Jimmy

11:03

Has a Go at Broady, I think

11:05

we should give everyone a flavor of

11:08

that live show and play them the Timmy Banderson

11:11

sketch, because it is a sketch, it's

11:14

comedy, it's layered. There's a laugh at

11:16

least every two minutes. Roll

11:18

VT.

11:20

Matt Chin, I think we should talk about our next guest.

11:22

We have a very special guest. Basically,

11:25

just after the first game of the Ashes, I think.

11:28

Broady, you are going to bloody love this. Yeah,

11:32

just get ready. So,

11:34

the first game of the Ashes, Jimmy didn't have

11:36

a great game, and you must do

11:38

this, when he doesn't have a great game, everyone piles on

11:40

all the tweets and say, oh, he's

11:42

too old, he's over the

11:44

hill, and it's so annoying

11:47

for us as friends and fans of Jimmy. We

11:49

were like, if you'd looked at Jimmy's last 12

11:52

months, just the stats, the

11:55

wickets, he was top of the ICC, he's

11:57

bowling rankings,

11:58

it was an extraordinary 12 months.

11:59

stuff won by a game and

12:01

I said if there was another player

12:04

for England that came through the reins, he was like a 20 year

12:06

old, let's call him Timmy Banderson.

12:10

Let's call him Timmy Banderson, definitely let's call

12:12

him that. If there was a player

12:14

called Timmy Banderson who was 20 years old

12:16

and was coming up and had the exact same stats as

12:18

that, people would be going out, people would be like, he's the next

12:21

great bowler. He's the next Timmy Anderson. He's the next

12:23

Timmy Anderson. He's the next Timmy Anderson.

12:25

We

12:28

got discussed about this and it gives me

12:31

enormous pleasure.

12:35

I can't believe this is a thing. Look

12:39

at straightforward face. The

12:43

only thing I know is he's not there. Yeah. But

12:46

in a minute he's going to be very much here. London,

12:50

put your hands together. Timmy

12:52

Banderson. No way. Are you there tonight? Oh.

12:56

Hey. Oh. Hey. Hey.

13:00

Oh. Hey. Hey. Hey.

13:03

Oh. Oh. Hey.

13:06

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

13:10

Hey. Hey. Hey.

13:13

Hey. Hey. Hey.

13:16

Hey. Hey. Hey.

13:19

Hey.

13:21

Oh. Yeah.

13:41

Timmy! Timmy!

13:47

Timmy! It's

13:50

great to have you here in Hammersmith. Great

13:53

to be here man. Great to be in South London.

13:57

Hey!

13:58

The Hammers by the polo!

13:59

Oh yeah, can

14:02

I just say it's great that we've got a Gen

14:04

Z on stage with us making sure the next

14:06

generation of the game is in safe hands.

14:09

Yeah man got my prime, keep

14:11

hydrated. Lovely,

14:13

delicious.

14:15

If he's doing

14:17

an accident I can't tell. Oh yeah quick question

14:19

to me, why are you American?

14:28

Absolutely no clue. I've

14:31

got a question, what do you think of Test Cricket Timmy

14:33

Bandafin?

14:34

Test Cricket gives me the ick man.

14:36

Ick.

14:39

T20, the 100 that's where it's at.

14:43

Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah.

14:46

So what's your story man? Oh what's

14:48

my story?

14:49

Yeah well

14:51

look, this is the Telenis podcast,

14:53

I'm one of the hosts, I'm Greg you might

14:55

know me from the Radio 1 Breakfast Show maybe Timmy

14:58

I don't know that. Oh yeah, my dad's a huge

15:00

fan. Yeah,

15:02

yeah, yeah. Hey

15:04

man what about you? I'm a musician, I've just been in

15:06

band for a while and stuff like that. Like

15:08

the Jonas Brothers? Oh for f*** sake.

15:12

Sweet threads man, you look snatched.

15:21

Right okay, Timmy I've got a

15:23

question. Timmy sorry.

15:26

I think everyone's got a question. Timmy,

15:30

Timmy have you um, I know

15:34

you're excelling in the short form stuff, have you had a

15:36

bowl recently? Yeah man a bowl too old

15:38

was yesterday, I am white. Hey

15:41

say hello to our guest.

15:43

Yeah what's your

15:45

name buddy?

15:48

Stuart.

15:52

You don't have to do it. What

15:57

do you do man?

15:58

I'm a recently retired...

15:59

England bowl, I had to open the bowling

16:02

at the end for this like really grumpy I

16:08

do recognize you though I've never heard of you

16:11

but are you Molly King's partner?

16:18

K down! Hey

16:21

Smooching Tendall Tarr!

16:25

Oh you know each other do you? One of the greatest influencers

16:28

ever man! Game recognized game!

16:30

Yeah sure hey Timmy it's

16:33

been it's

16:34

been quite something haven't you here? This

16:37

I will never forget! What

16:40

part of America is he from? Yeah what part of America are you

16:42

from Timmy? North

16:47

West! Oh yeah like what sort

16:49

of places in the North West?

16:52

Burnley! Ladies

16:58

and gentlemen Timmy Banderson!

17:02

Oh

17:04

sorry Timmy! I need a quick selfie

17:06

with the 100 trophy that's where it's at! Oh

17:08

yeah yeah are

17:10

you available for next year's over the minstables team?

17:13

Before I go quick!

17:15

Point five with a crowd! Timmy!

17:18

Timmy Banderson! You should have come back later!

17:20

Timmy Banderson everybody!

17:29

Yeah

17:32

I mean what I will say

17:34

is it brought

17:36

the house down and they did credit

17:39

full credit and Jimmy won't like this but full

17:41

credit to his dedication

17:43

and also workshopping of the

17:45

character because

17:49

he wasn't playing the part of Timmy Banderson he

17:51

was Timmy Banderson! Yeah yeah

17:54

what's that acting called when you're in character

17:56

all the time? Method! He's acted

17:58

it on tour! never came out okay. I

18:01

am a method actor. I've always been a method

18:03

actor. But I think the thing

18:05

for me was we

18:08

obviously came up with a thing in the pub in

18:11

Oxford the night before the Oxford show. Then

18:13

we came to rehearse the next afternoon at

18:15

about four o'clock. Great. And I was

18:17

like, I just can't do it. There's no

18:19

way I can do this. So I think

18:22

it was Greg said, just have an extra

18:24

beer and do it on the night. And

18:26

that's exactly what I did. And I knew that if I

18:28

did it half-hearted, it'd be rubbish and

18:30

I'd just make a fool of myself. So I thought I'll

18:32

throw myself into it and make a fool of myself anyway. Honestly,

18:36

I have not laughed like that. It was a source

18:38

of laughing where when you first did

18:40

it, where I actually thought I was going to throw

18:42

up all of my insides. I was laughing five

18:45

months double-diver. I actually

18:47

thought I was going to die from laughing. And

18:49

I haven't laughed like that since Matt

18:52

Shin's move where he came in

18:54

with your Instagram profile and the

18:56

little profile photo was like wiped

18:58

off it. It was the same sort of laughter.

19:01

We got well, I was thinking to my head, oh no, I think

19:03

I'm going to die now from choking.

19:09

It was quite a spectacle. And,

19:13

you know, I felt quite sad that

19:16

I didn't get to hang out with Timmy the next

19:18

night, you know, when the tour finished. I'd

19:20

like to think that we'll see Timmy again.

19:23

Well, I was thinking of maybe giving him

19:25

a TikTok life because he could, I think

19:27

he could do numbers on there. Oh,

19:33

he'll definitely do numbers. But also, Greg,

19:35

we shouldn't forget that there'll be lots of people listening to

19:37

tell and haven't been able to make it to the show. So

19:40

maybe in a non-live show environment,

19:42

I think the listeners of the podcast should meet Timmy

19:44

Banderson at some point, surely. I

19:47

wonder if he's got a central contract. He's

19:50

a short

19:53

one, maybe. He doesn't want to do the one. Doing

19:55

the franchise rounds, mate. Yeah, he wants

19:58

to be. He's a free. agent

20:00

is a free spirit as well well look free

20:02

spirit if Timmy's what people

20:04

want then maybe Timmy could be a guest

20:07

on a future tell-enders episode but we'll

20:09

see what the reaction to that is

20:11

like if that translates and people want to hear more

20:14

just email sharky saying we

20:17

want Timmy we want Timmy and who

20:19

knows me I don't know what Timmy's doing for Christmas

20:21

or even being from America or California

20:23

from wherever he whether he celebrates it at the same time

20:25

of year or day but if he does maybe

20:27

on a Christmas special Timmy Banderson might come

20:30

out to play yeah he might be

20:32

tiny Timmy Banderson at Christmas like tiny

20:34

Timmy Banderson

20:37

do a Christmas Carol tiny

20:42

Timmy Banderson there we go if

20:44

he's not if he's not too busy flying over for

20:46

the for the SA 20 which I imagine

20:49

he's involved in but I've got

20:51

a vision of Jimmy like when Timmy comes out he's

20:53

got a little suitcase or Timmy's clothes and he's like

20:56

okay Timmy to play

21:14

I

21:17

thought he was cheating my captain had been sent off

21:19

because an asteroid was raining injury all

21:21

boys are gone if you give up the mum line I went yeah

21:23

so a couple of plays with you sell

21:25

it I've

21:28

had so many nice comments about

21:31

our podcast is incredible

21:33

can we and Ben's proper football podcast listen

21:36

on BBC sounds

21:41

shall we talk about the world's longest cricket

21:43

tournament the men's World

21:45

Cup is still going on

21:48

it is hotting up not for England

21:50

they have been eliminated

21:53

it was actually we were quite

21:55

sad throughout the tour I mean aside

21:58

from Timmy Banderson which made us almost die laughing

23:48

Just

24:00

as you were talking to Jim, I thought the closest equivalent

24:03

to what you've been through maybe

24:05

would have been the Ashes in 2015, is it? When

24:08

you just come off the back of winning in England and

24:11

that the Mitchell Johnson Ashes when

24:13

Trot left and Swan left, where you've

24:16

got a great team that's been so dominant

24:18

and they just sort of don't assume, I can't imagine,

24:20

but you're just bouncing from win to win and

24:22

then there's just a moment that no one can kind of

24:24

predict where it's just one

24:27

series or moment too far

24:29

for that collection of people, do you know what I mean? It kind of feels

24:31

a bit similar to that. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. I

24:33

get what you're saying, you know,

24:36

that's 13-14, that away Ashes after we won England in 2013,

24:39

went straight to Australia that winter and

24:41

everything sort of didn't go our

24:44

way. You know, Jonathan Trot going home

24:46

after the first test, Swanee retiring

24:48

after the third test, Mitchell

24:50

Johnson having the series of his life, you

24:53

know, everything was just stacked against as that series

24:55

and again, that's that feeling

24:58

of you lose one, you think, right,

25:00

we'll come back in the next game, you get beaten

25:02

again, the harder you try, the worst

25:04

things get and you know,

25:06

you're just on a slippery slope then and by the end it was

25:08

just, it's so tough to

25:11

get yourself up, well, not get yourself up

25:13

for a game, but just get through

25:15

that feeling of, oh God, here

25:17

we go again sort of thing. So you know,

25:20

we've had many Ashes series like that

25:22

actually away in particular, you know,

25:24

where we've got beaten five nil or four nil, you

25:26

know, they are hard places to go. I'd say India

25:29

and Australia are the hardest places to tour when things

25:31

are going wrong. Just because it, you know,

25:33

slightly foreign conditions, you know,

25:36

Australia for slightly different reasons to India, but

25:38

in India, you know, they are hard, tough

25:40

conditions, the wickets aren't always susceptible

25:42

to the way we want to play our cricket. You

25:45

know, we've, for example, another example of things

25:48

not quite

25:50

or the planning sort of side of it. So

25:53

Mark Wood's been amazing for England

25:55

and he's used his short ball really well and in England

25:57

you get catches on the boundary deep square,

25:59

leg finders. leg third man and

26:01

India the grounds are so small you know

26:04

they're hitting 60 meter sixes you

26:06

just need a little bit to get over the top of that

26:08

field on the boundary and it's six so they've those

26:10

sorts of things they've been going for six rather than you know

26:13

the wickets that you might have been getting in the last

26:15

World Cup and then through the last few years so it

26:17

can those sorts of things they just

26:20

add up and it becomes a long slog after

26:22

a while and it's just yeah it's difficult

26:24

to watch because I still feel like there's such a

26:26

talented team yeah and should have put on a

26:28

better show in the house you said here

26:31

we go again and that is often seen

26:33

in the negative way but actually give

26:35

that a spin then 2015 there was a real

26:37

turnaround between then and 2019 and that's

26:42

the cyclical nature of these sides as Felix

26:44

alluded to is that you sometimes need

26:47

these I know it's slightly different because that team wasn't they

26:49

weren't the component parts maybe weren't as

26:51

talented but in a similar way this

26:53

is a moment to go away and rebuild and

26:56

bring in some of those newer players and maybe keep

26:59

I would definitely keep just Butler on and

27:01

maybe build the team around about

27:03

around him and some of those newer younger players Timmy

27:06

Banderson yeah definitely

27:10

he's been on the phone already I think I don't

27:13

think it needs the wholesale changes that we

27:15

had in 2015 I think the core of the

27:18

squad is still strong still world-class I

27:21

definitely get Harry Brook in and

27:23

give him a good good long run in the team but

27:25

essentially you know you look at the squad there

27:28

are players in there that are gonna be around for years and

27:30

years the likes of Harry Brooks Amka and Mark

27:33

Wood who signed a three-year central contract

27:35

so you know he's almost getting through to that next

27:38

World Cup if he can because Atkinson was

27:40

in the squad again I'd potentially it might

27:42

be nice opportunity to try and play him in the last two

27:44

games when I know

27:46

David Willy's retired but generally I think

27:50

the odd player here and there that that

27:52

maybe steps down or gets dropped

27:54

with Stokes announcing that he's gonna

27:57

have surgery after the end of the World Cup

27:59

I've be surprised if he plays one-day cricket

28:01

again to be honest. So there will be

28:04

spots opening up but

28:05

in 2015 we definitely needed wholesale

28:07

changes, we needed a shift in the way we played

28:10

cricket, one-day cricket. I don't

28:12

think we need that right now. You know, Jost has

28:15

done really well as captain, you know, winning the T20

28:17

World Cup last year and I think he's done

28:19

a great job. So I think, yes, he definitely is

28:21

the right person to carry on. I think, yeah,

28:23

there will be the odd player that comes

28:25

in to try and

28:27

just take that team forward. Yeah, Mo's

28:29

already said that he won't be around for the next

28:31

World Cup. He's said that, I mean, I

28:34

get that. But he shouldn't be

28:36

full of gloom with this because

28:38

we've had some amazing highs and this is

28:40

just what happens sometimes. And I think actually

28:43

having a bit of time and regrouping

28:46

and working out what that side is, because the

28:48

great thing about that 2019 side was that they sort

28:50

of knew a couple of, one or two changes

28:52

at the most throughout the tournament and they kind of knew the

28:54

side, but that's been the difference this time.

28:57

Shall we move on to the

28:59

Angelo Matthews thing? This

29:02

was a mad, mad

29:04

moment. The first time it's ever happened in

29:06

an international game. Angelo

29:09

Matthews was given out,

29:11

timed out,

29:12

Sri Lanka Bangladesh. So he had an

29:14

issue with his helmet, looked like a broken

29:16

strap, which resulted in him not

29:18

being ready within two minutes. Bangladesh

29:21

appealed and he was given out. You've

29:24

never seen anything like that, Jim, have you? Before? I

29:26

don't think I've ever seen anyone timed

29:28

out in any form of cricket, to

29:31

be honest. It's always the sort of the

29:33

one you remember at the end of

29:36

everyone saying, how many ways can you get out in cricket?

29:38

And everyone goes, oh, timed out. But I've never, never noticed it

29:40

before. I've never

29:42

seen it before. And you get it, people threaten it, don't

29:45

they, in club cricket and school. But I've actually never

29:47

seen anyone actually timed out before.

29:49

I don't even know, does it go to the bowler? How

29:52

is it? Is it even Martin's score? Like,

29:54

so when someone timed out, you just, just

29:56

timed out. Yeah, just timed out. Yeah. Isn't

29:59

it more like a. spirit of cricket thing is more

30:01

an argument for that against some spirit of cricket.

30:04

Well very much so matching yeah and it's

30:06

quite an interesting thing when he gets out there on

30:09

the footage because he

30:11

looks like, it's not like, because when I heard about it

30:13

I was in the studio and it happened and I

30:15

assumed oh something had happened and he hadn't actually

30:17

walked out onto the pitch in time in

30:20

order to get there and that's why he'd been timed out like he'd

30:22

never entered the field of play because that's what

30:24

you assume it means but he's actually stood

30:26

there at the wicket

30:29

saying I've got the problem with my helmet which

30:32

seems strange. The interesting bit is

30:34

I think, I again

30:36

didn't see it live but I've seen the replay

30:38

and it's hard to kind of pick

30:41

up on what actually happens. Is the strap

30:43

broken before that two minutes is up? Right

30:46

yeah. Because if it isn't, if it's after two minutes

30:48

when the strap breaks then there's an argument

30:51

to say potentially if he wasn't

30:53

there anywhere the strap was irrelevant. Yeah.

30:56

If he wasn't ready to face up but also

30:59

I wouldn't be surprised if the umpires have actually gone

31:01

up to the captain and said it's been

31:03

however long. Right yeah yeah. But

31:05

essentially so say he does break

31:07

it before that two minutes the strap breaks. People

31:11

break equipment all the time. Right.

31:14

Yeah. Helmet straps, gloves straps,

31:17

pad straps everything you know it

31:19

happens all the time where you have to stop the game and

31:22

wait for a new bit of kit to be brought out and just

31:24

because it's in the middle of an inning it's never an issue because

31:26

you're in already. Totally. I've

31:29

never seen anything like this

31:31

happen. I've seen people

31:33

walk out with two right under gloves

31:35

and have to wait for another glove to be

31:37

run out. Right. And they

31:39

didn't get timed out. So it's just difficult

31:42

to know, I've not heard any. First

31:44

of all. Yeah literally walked out from the dressing

31:46

room with two right under gloves. Who did that?

31:49

I can't remember who it was. Did

31:51

he have two right hands or? Yeah.

31:54

Put one his feet as well. So

31:58

I'm asking the question I think I know the answer.

33:17

reruns

34:00

which was mad. Can anyone

34:03

stop India, Jimmy? On current form,

34:05

absolutely not. No, they're destroying

34:07

everyone that they're playing against and they look

34:09

unstoppable. They really do. They've got every

34:12

base covered in their squad. Best

34:14

bowling attack in the World Cup by mile. Arguably

34:17

the best batting lineup as well.

34:19

Virat Kohli getting his 4900

34:21

equal in saption the other day. In

34:23

half the time. And they're probably the only

34:25

team for me that looks so well rounded

34:28

that they can bat first or chase and

34:30

still put in a solid performance. That's the issue

34:33

for me. I think South Africa could potentially

34:35

beat them, but they need to bat first. I've

34:37

not seen any evidence that South Africa are

34:39

a good chasing team in this World Cup. They've done all

34:41

their damage batting first, put it on a massive score,

34:44

and then they've got a good enough bowling attack to defend.

34:46

I

34:47

think that's the issue for me. If South

34:49

Africa get through and

34:50

win the toss and bat, then they might have

34:52

a chance. Honestly, I can't

34:55

really see anyone beating India. I look

34:59

at the top four as it is now. Australia as

35:01

well as South Africa and

35:04

New Zealand in there as well at the minute. Obviously

35:06

Afghanistan are close and Pakistan are close. It

35:09

probably looks like net room rate at the minute

35:11

with the last two games. I

35:14

think India for me are just so

35:16

spot on in all departments that they're unstoppable.

35:19

But the chasing thing's been weird throughout this

35:21

whole World Cup anyway because there's

35:23

only been one

35:26

successful chase of over 300 in the World

35:28

Cup so far. It's been an odd World

35:33

Cup for chasing. I don't know

35:36

if I was wrong, but I was expecting some tighter

35:39

finishes, some bigger run chases.

35:41

I would have expected a few more of

35:43

those to the wire big run chases,

35:45

but we haven't seen that. Yeah, that's pretty true.

35:47

It's interesting that people think that because

35:50

they've been day night games as well, in India the dew

35:52

can be a massive factor and it can grease

35:55

up the pitch and make

35:57

it skid on and better to bat.

35:59

Well, because the dew doesn't come until

36:02

about 25-30, I was in the second Indians,

36:04

then that's the bulk of the run chase. So actually,

36:06

it turns into

36:08

a typical Indian surface where it does

36:11

deteriorate, starts spinning more, becomes

36:13

harder to score, becomes slower. It then

36:16

makes those first 30-25-30, I

36:18

was really much more difficult. So

36:20

people can't get off to the start they need when they're chasing a

36:23

big score in the second Indians.

36:25

That's like India South Africa, isn't

36:27

it? We're talking about on Sunday, Jim, where the

36:29

first thing is Maharaj Bold. I can't remember who he Bould.

36:31

I think he Bould Gill with one that just sort of ragged

36:33

beauty. But then it's like, as soon as he

36:35

Bould that Bould, it was kind of like alarm bells

36:38

because as soon as the Jadaigar Bould was on that surface,

36:40

he's just going to do so much destruction.

36:42

And that feels exactly like you're saying, like a classic Indian

36:45

test wicket where it's going to break up and spin

36:47

to the point of being unplayable all within

36:50

a day. Yeah, it's fun. Quick

36:52

question. You know, saying to Jimmy about England,

36:55

the next game doesn't really matter for England. What's the

36:57

deal with if they come bottom, they don't

36:59

qualify for something? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is

37:02

that a big deal? Could they still qualify

37:04

if they come bottom? No, I don't think they

37:06

can. What? Qualify for what? You're talking about the

37:08

ICC trophy. So they

37:11

need to be the Netherlands to qualify

37:13

for that. Yeah, but no one gives a f*** about

37:15

that anyway. Okay, so that's not really an important

37:18

thing. Is that like qualifying for the Intertoto

37:20

Cup? I didn't even know it was

37:23

still going, the Champions trophy. So

37:26

it's not, I mean,

37:28

I think it's the top eight teams. It's just

37:31

the top. It's just eight. Yeah.

37:33

That'd be what it is. Great.

37:35

But I mean, again, it's not like

37:38

it's

37:38

not the end of the world. If you're not not qualified for that.

37:40

Right. Okay. I thought that was that

37:43

tournament then led on to the World Cup,

37:45

but it's not that's just completely separate. So

37:47

I think the World Cup is based on the world rankings and

37:49

the Champions trophies based on where you finished

37:51

the World Cup. Be nice to beat the Netherlands

37:53

though, wouldn't it? I think that would be a nice thing. And

37:57

I think it would be nice to actually

37:59

have a little bit.

37:59

of joy before they come home all sad.

38:03

Well, quick point on that actually,

38:06

another serious point. I feel in a serious mood tonight.

38:08

What's really frustrating me, I've not

38:10

liked the sort of layout

38:13

of the World Cup and how it's been

38:15

set out because it is a long tournament. We're

38:17

having three knockout games in

38:19

the whole tournament, which doesn't

38:21

seem right for a World Cup.

38:24

Going on how the

38:26

associate nations have played in this World Cup,

38:29

how well Afghanistan have done,

38:31

how well, you know, the Netherlands have

38:33

played pretty well,

38:35

but the beats Africa and

38:37

they've definitely not disgraced themselves in the

38:39

other games by any stretch. I

38:41

would love to see more associate nations.

38:44

There's no Western in this tournament,

38:46

not an associate nation. Scotland

38:48

have come close before to qualifying, Ireland

38:50

aren't there. Why not give them the chance

38:53

to play in these tournaments? To have smaller groups,

38:56

have four groups of five and then play more

38:58

knockout games towards the back end. It

39:00

just to me that'd be a fairer sort of

39:02

layout of the World Cup. And it makes

39:05

it a World Cup. I was about

39:07

to say the same thing, it's not really a World Cup is it? It's

39:10

a handful of people. Yeah, exactly.

39:13

A World Cup of the people we

39:15

want in it. Okay,

39:18

matching,

39:21

give us a little quiz then and we'll get out of here. Well,

39:24

we did have one quiz. He

39:28

said, can you come up with a quiz based on

39:30

dismissals, which you've just then

39:32

disparaged Greg about 10 minutes ago,

39:35

you went, Oh, what's that boring quiz about how many

39:38

different ways of dismissals are there? I

39:40

didn't say it was boring. Welcome

39:43

to Givi Anderson, Dismissal Edition.

39:46

No, I don't. Ironically,

39:49

you think I dismissed it, but I didn't. Okay.

39:52

I was saying it's because that question was comes up and

39:54

then you always at the end of it, you was like,

39:56

Oh, yeah, we timed out and like, handled

39:59

ball. that stuff. Okay, well Felix

40:02

versus Greg where we test our contestants in the 10 ways

40:05

matters can be dismissed. Oh, so

40:07

it's exactly that. Yeah. But then

40:10

if you get stuck, you find out but

40:12

Jimmy, wait, Jimmy, you're not in this one. But if

40:15

Greg or Felix gets stuck, you can ask, give

40:17

me Andy a son and Jimmy can step in and

40:20

help you. Okay. You only get one give me a son. Also,

40:22

for the extra bonus points, tell us

40:24

your favorite version of that dismissal. Oh,

40:27

go. Give me

40:30

one.

40:31

What a dismissal. One way we get dismissed.

40:33

Okay, bold.

40:34

Okay, correct. My favorite example of

40:36

that would be Jimmy to Shubman

40:39

Gill in India, reversing the ball natural

40:41

wearing tent. Nice.

40:44

Greg, I'll go for leg before

40:47

wicket. What's your favorite Greg? Favorite

40:49

one. Very difficult to name a favorite.

40:51

I would never you never really thought about it. What's

40:56

your favorite? Well, I will actually

40:58

say put when it's pushed,

41:01

and I feel like I'm being pushed. You are.

41:03

I it's probably my least favorite

41:06

mode of dismissal. Okay, I do have an

41:08

answer. Go on. I think two

41:10

out of the three wickets that Dominic

41:13

caught got in his hat trick in a test match. Lovely

41:15

shout. Ridley Jacobs. There

41:18

was an amazing jag back. And I feel

41:20

like it might have been Richie Richardson, but I

41:22

can't can't remember. That's a lovely

41:25

shout. Jimmy, what's your favorite ever LBW?

41:27

There's a bowler,

41:30

there's a bowler, there's nothing better than setting

41:33

a batter up with a few

41:35

outswingers and then then leaving. Thank

41:37

you. I think for me that that's that's

41:43

a yeah. Oh, my

41:46

favorite. I think my favorite person

41:48

to get out LBW was Shane. I knew you're gonna

41:50

say he always always reviewed it. And

41:52

it was always written. My

41:58

favorite, my favorite, the one of the I've

42:00

ever watched so little 90s

42:02

reference, but if you remember NASA saying

42:04

I may be in his hockey Stan

42:07

Yeah, it's like it was a back of a length ball

42:09

and it just literally rolled it I actually know it was

42:11

West Indies was Karl Hooper. I think bowling Yeah,

42:14

hold it into the wicket

42:16

and it literally didn't bounce at all

42:18

and just hit him straight on the boot. Yeah Classic

42:21

I think that's my friend I think Freddie's got one of those

42:24

in the past as well Freddie got a famous one that

42:26

was shot straight on the ground as well because there's

42:28

also a real art forming in getting out LBW

42:30

where you give the assumption obviously those have

42:32

kept low But that is that give the assumption

42:35

it's kept low and it hasn't Do

42:36

I mean when you get stuck on the crease and you do

42:39

that look as if all that one's not

42:41

moved Type thing isn't art in getting

42:43

out of we W anyway. Sorry matching this crack on so

42:46

it's cuz I think it's cuz I hated Getting

42:48

out of the W. It was an I'm worst I

42:51

just you feel like such an idiot well

42:53

because your Your number one job was

42:55

about to is to hit to the ball So if

42:57

you don't I just felt like

42:59

an absolute plum and I just checked the

43:02

final wicket of Dominic corks Hatcher was Karl

43:04

Hooper legend He thought

43:06

we walked across his stumps and it jagged back and I

43:08

love them in a cocs action So that's my favorite over W

43:11

next Felix double color.

43:13

Hey, we've got bold about LBW Yeah,

43:15

what's your next one? And thank you for asking? I'm gonna

43:18

go for run out and my favorite run out

43:20

ever would be John T roads Choosing

43:23

not to throw the ball at the stumps and

43:25

instead just have a sprint

43:28

battle with the batter who I forget it

43:30

was running to the strikers end

43:32

diving for the stumps dislodging the bales

43:35

and Affecting a run out which

43:37

is my third dismissal. No Love

43:41

that Okay,

43:44

I'll go for Handled

43:49

ball Lovely

43:52

the obscure five go five classics for

43:54

the other for the layman there are ten I

44:00

can only think of the one example and

44:02

it was Graham Gooch. What happened

44:04

there? I can't think of another one. Well he just... Well

44:07

he handled the ball. The ball was

44:09

about to bounce

44:12

back onto the stumps and he just

44:14

knocked it over with his gloved

44:16

hand, flicked it. I feel

44:18

like Michael Vaughan got outhandled once, did

44:20

he?

44:21

Was it Michael Vaughan or KV? Someone got...

44:24

I

44:24

don't know. Don't remember. V?

44:27

Another famous dismissal match in which you'll see often

44:29

when you watch a game of cricket is Out Court. My

44:32

favourite Out Court is

44:35

the one where me and Greg were

44:37

accidentally on commentary on BBC

44:39

Five Live 4 during the 2019 World

44:42

Cup where Ben Stokes

44:44

executed the most miraculous catch you

44:46

will ever see on The Boundary

44:49

where we had Eli Oldroyd

44:51

and Alex Stewart behind us gagging

44:53

to get on the microphone but they couldn't and

44:55

Greg described it as he's leaped like

44:58

a salmon. Next question. Yeah

45:00

which we... I say which. You

45:03

got sticked for didn't you at the time? I got sticked

45:05

for but it's the most common phrase that all

45:07

commoners use for leaping. Yeah

45:09

it is. They can f*** off. Slex

45:13

free? No it's Greg Stone isn't it?

45:16

Yeah she was Greg. Oh

45:19

um stumped. Stumped. It's

45:21

a classic. Go for it Greg. Uh

45:24

best stumping? I don't know. Okay.

45:28

Uh best stumping... Oh no we'll move on. I

45:30

feel like my favourite stumping would

45:33

be Sarah Taylor did

45:36

one a few years ago down the

45:38

leg side and had to dive back miles

45:40

to take the bales off. Yeah. Yeah.

45:44

Really good. Yeah.

45:47

Isn't this good radio? This is good looking bad for radio isn't it? I'm

45:50

not sure if you are enjoying this. I'm not sure if the phone is stumping. I know

45:52

this is good. Go on. Okay now we'll

45:54

get, this is the difficult bit now. We'll get into the real

45:56

ones. Right. Now we're in the weeze matching.

45:59

My um form of dismissal is

46:01

out obstructed fielder.

46:05

I have actually never

46:07

seen a batter get out obstructing

46:10

the fielder but the idea

46:12

I think is obviously that the batter might zigzag

46:15

while running in front of the ball to

46:17

stop them getting it in a run out.

46:20

Has anyone ever seen someone get out obstructed fielder?

46:22

I think Stokes had one once. Did he? Yeah,

46:25

I feel like I've seen it in a game. Stokes

46:27

had it against Australia and I played the eye.

46:30

Next up Greg, we've had court out with our

46:33

ball, we've had LBW, we've had run out stumped, handled

46:35

the ball obstructing the field, there's only three left

46:37

and there's one today. Oh, how about

46:41

not hit handle ball but hitting the ball twice?

46:43

Double hit. Nice.

46:46

Double hit. My favourite example of a double

46:48

hit. Okay, next Greg.

46:51

Probably me and the Nets.

46:54

See? See?

46:57

I'm allowed to do timed out. Timed out,

46:59

yeah. Timed out. What's your favourite example

47:02

in an international game?

47:04

In an international arena? Off

47:07

the top of my head it would be when Angelo Matthews

47:09

was timed out. Oh yeah, did that happen? Oh

47:11

right. The final one? Do you

47:14

know what it is? One more.

47:15

I thought we had. Go on.

47:17

Court out, bold, LBW, run

47:19

out, stumped, handle the ball, double hit,

47:22

stroke from the field, timed out, we're missing one.

47:24

Oh, we haven't had hit wicket.

47:26

Oh yeah boy.

47:29

I love that. I love hit wicket.

47:32

What's your favourite example of hit wicket? Well,

47:35

a great one. I've got a favourite. I've got a great one.

47:37

I've got a favourite. Haven't you done it, Jim?

47:39

I've got a group. I did do it in club cricket

47:41

but I've not done it in an international game. I

47:43

thought you'd done it in... I

47:46

was deep in my crease playing away

47:48

at east lengths and

47:51

triggered and my back foot went straight

47:54

through middle stone. So much so it went on

47:56

the floor. I

48:00

have my bearings in the new bearings. No

48:02

mistaking there. I think my favourite

48:05

one would be the same as Fiza. I

48:07

know what you're gonna say. Shane Warne

48:10

in the 2005 Ashes, stepping

48:12

on the sumps when looking

48:15

dead set to chase down a title in which England

48:17

eventually win the second test and go on to win the

48:19

Ashes.

48:22

Not my favourite, but yeah, I do remember

48:24

that. What's your favourite? My favourite

48:27

ever is 2006 In The Month

48:29

All Harrods. Do

48:33

you remember that? Yeah, he tried to get his leg

48:35

over it. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

48:37

it might have been Monty bowling. I think

48:40

Monty was bowling. Yeah. He lost

48:42

his balance, tried to jump over the

48:44

stumps and knock the veils off. Was that

48:46

because he was trying to get back to cover the stumping,

48:49

I think? No, I just think he... Yeah, I

48:51

think in my head, he tried... He

48:54

was out of his crease, so panicked, like

48:57

tried to get back into his crease, but overbalanced

48:59

and then... Yeah, not the better

49:01

for this grime. Yeah. Which

49:04

is quite hard to do

49:06

because he's very tall. Yeah. Actually,

49:08

it just brings up one more thing. Can you

49:11

not get out when you look this up? Is it not

49:13

possible to get out for like bad discipline?

49:15

Can you not get out for like, descent?

49:18

Is that not a mode of dismissal? Don't think so. Let's

49:20

start on the MCC rules. I've got 10, count

49:22

them 10 that you get out on. Maybe

49:25

a cricket manager will tell me

49:27

otherwise. I guess you

49:29

could technically say that retired hurt is out

49:32

by maybe... Oh, retired hurt. Yeah, not out

49:34

though, aren't you? I'm looking at Inzy.

49:36

But you can come back though if you retire

49:38

hurt. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Indians, all that.

49:40

Exactly.

49:41

Inzy was... No,

49:44

he goes... So he goes... It's

49:47

even better. He goes for a really

49:49

audacious sweep.

49:51

Yeah. Completely misses it. And then almost

49:54

to the forward roll over the stumps.

49:57

I was right when I looked out too. The

50:00

quickest, funniest moment this is under. Oh,

50:02

it's mon... Oh, yeah. Oh,

50:06

I love that dismissal. Yeah.

50:10

Oh, wow, yeah. And

50:14

that was Gimme Andis on Dismissal Edition. Thank

50:17

you for having us on Gimme Andis on Dismissal Edition. Really

50:19

good. Love it. Nearly as long as I World

50:21

Cup that. Nice

50:24

little trip down memory lane. Yeah, I think that

50:26

game needed a few more groups in the group stage.

50:30

Let's have a couple of emails

50:33

and a few go wells and then leave

50:35

everyone alone to get on with their lives. Ash

50:39

was at The Bath Show and has sent us an email.

50:42

Hi, Greg. Hi, Jimmy. Hi, Felix. Hi, Matt Chin. Hi,

50:44

Shartnay to the Movie. Just thought I'd tell you about my

50:46

night in Bath after

50:48

a bloody horrible drive from Taunton in

50:50

the pouring rain. I arrived

50:53

early at the Bath Forum and joined the queue behind

50:55

a lady and a young boy cowering under

50:57

an umbrella. The rain soon eased

50:59

and the brawly soon came down. I think the lady

51:01

felt sorry for me standing on my own and started a conversation

51:04

up. Have you been to this before? She

51:06

asked me. No, I'm a long time listener,

51:08

first time visitor, I replied. What about you?

51:11

She said, well, I'm

51:13

Matt Chin's mum, so I sort of have to come.

51:16

Oh, literally. What

51:19

a lovely lady. She's a lovely lady. Says

51:22

Ash. We chatted for a bit and she introduced

51:24

me to Mini Matt Chin. She told me about Matt's

51:26

previous jobs and was super enthusiastic

51:28

about tail enders. She's obviously very proud

51:31

and happy with what you guys have done, although

51:33

she did say how cross she was with Matt for doing

51:35

the killer man jar-o thing. Fair

51:37

play, nice, fair play. This was a perfect

51:40

start to a brilliant evening. I was also

51:42

sat next to a guy who was there on his

51:44

own, too. What followed was two hours of

51:46

complete nonsense amongst likeminded people

51:48

all having the same crazy experience

51:51

as me. I had such a good night. I just wanted to say thank you

51:53

for not just the loosely cricket based nonsense

51:55

I expected, but also the proper cricket chat

51:57

with Leeche Crossy and Jimmy. to

52:00

see you on the next tour. Keep up the good work.

52:02

Go well, Ash in Taunson. Cheers,

52:06

Baddies! Lovely,

52:08

Hilary. Did she have a nice time? She loved it, yeah.

52:10

She had a good time. Did she like her shout

52:12

out in the Ted Talk? She does. I think she

52:14

always wants more quizzes, don't she? But

52:16

she'd have two hours of quizzes if it was her choice. But

52:19

she loved it. She's a big fan

52:21

of her, Jimmy. I didn't see

52:23

her afterwards. I normally see her after matching.

52:26

I think you were just down in Honey and Whiskey trying to get your

52:28

voice back, weren't you?

52:29

Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah, that'll do it. Another bottle

52:34

of whiskey, I think that'll do it. It

52:37

didn't actually do it that night. It

52:39

unfortunately didn't do it that

52:41

night, no. Did

52:43

get me quite drunk, though. Go Wells.

52:46

Emma has completed her PhD in physics.

52:49

Go well. Cheers. Baddies,

52:52

Joy, Garfield, Big

52:55

Al. Oh, that's my Big Al. Oh, is it? An

52:57

Archie. Is that not? Oh, well, it was

52:59

his birthday yesterday, so happy 70th Big Al.

53:01

Happy birthday. And also the other Big Al.

53:04

I don't know how many Big Als are listening to this. Go

53:07

well. New Tailenders. You

53:10

babies. Hector, Imogen, Flora,

53:13

Rafferty, Ollie, Charlie and Mickey.

53:15

Go well. Cheers. Steve

53:18

and Angela have just retired and have spent

53:20

five weeks following the England men's team around

53:23

India. Oh, God. Oh,

53:25

come back and get a job. Yeah. It's

53:30

a sign. Go Wells. Cheers.

53:34

George has got a new job for a laugh. Should we laugh?

53:36

Go well. Cheers. Jasmine

53:39

has been to the Lord's Library

53:41

as part of her research for A-Levels, and Felix

53:43

might like to know that his book is in there. Ah,

53:46

that's nice. Yeah, that's very cool. Go well. Cheers.

53:49

The books are placed in alphabetical

53:51

order by author, so his book is surrounded by

53:53

titles written by Shane Warren, Steve

53:55

Warr and Bob Willis. The big four.

53:57

Worn.

53:59

War, Willis, White. The

54:02

big guns, yeah. Sessions. Sessions.

54:05

Lucas was Player of the Year for Folkestone

54:07

Cricket Club under 11s. Go well.

54:10

Cheers. We've got some engagements. Yeah,

54:14

human being engagements. Human being engagements.

54:17

Tom and Emily. Go well. Tom

54:19

and Sarah. And Beth and Alex. Go

54:21

well. Cheers, cheers. Weddings.

54:24

Human being weddings. Human being bilateral

54:27

weddings. Roland and Sally.

54:30

Charlotte and Jared. And Sally and Birdie.

54:32

Go well. Cheers. Anniversaries.

54:35

Human being anniversaries. Rob

54:38

and Laura. And that's it. Go

54:40

well. Oh, and

54:42

snip well to James and Chris. Snip

54:44

well. Snip well. Oh. Human

54:47

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54:49

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