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And welcome back everybody . What
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is going on ? Hey
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, hey , hey . Shit , I
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forgot . I think I was going to do normal voice this
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episode .
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You fucked .
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Yeah , too late for that one . That'll have to
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be next episode , because
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apparently this is just so damn ingrained
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I can't help it .
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This is you now . Yeah
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, it's kind of this was me .
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Yep , it's kind of like the fucking Little
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Nicky thing . Yeah , that was me before
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, but this is me now
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. Now , get
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in the flask Now get in the flask .
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Get in the flask .
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Well , I think , if I remember
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right , we actually had a couple of stories
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today . Well , story
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slash , interesting
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history .
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Yeah , okay
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, want to go first .
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Yeah , I'll go ahead and start . So
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this is
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about a Japanese
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doomsday cult . Now , this is old
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, but I
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don't think I've ever heard of it , so
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the chances are you guys might
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not have either . Guys , gals , everyone
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out there that listens . So
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now , being this
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is from Japan , I'm probably going to
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butcher everything , so I
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apologize .
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I'd laugh if you're like I'm probably going to butcher and you just get everything
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perfectly right , right , that'd be
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insane . You lied .
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No one knew that I was one quarter japanese
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. Yeah
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, brother . So this is um . Shinrikyu
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, translated as supreme
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truth had emerged in
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japan in the 18 sorry 1980s
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, under the leadership of
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shoko ashihara
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, born chizo
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matsumoto in 1955
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wait , his name was chizo , shizo
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. Well , I mean well , yeah , c-h-i-z-u-o
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chizo if
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I had that name , why would you change it ? That's like the greatest
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name ever again , I'm not japanese
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, so I know I'm butchering these and I apologize , but
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I'm doing the best , all right I'm
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gonna run under the assumption his name was cheezo
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right , but uh . So
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this person claimed to be a masonic figure
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with supernatural powers and
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attracted many followers disillusioned
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with mainstream society . So
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the group's teachings were a blend
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of elements from different religions
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going for like buddhism
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, hinduism and
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christianity , which to me is a really
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odd fucking mix yeah like
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how ? How do you mix those
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three out of all of them together ? But
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he was proclaiming himself as the one
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and only who could save humanity from
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the impending catastrophe . And
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they amassed considerable wealth
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through its businesses , including computer
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programming and , oddly
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enough , yoga classes . Huh
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. Yeah , again kind of
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a weird thing to be incorporated
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with . But I mean , I guess this is back in
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the day when you know now crime
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is quite a bit different .
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Yeah , so it's yoga and fucking
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computers .
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Yeah , yeah , like super
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legit businesses , okay
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. Like
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super legit businesses , okay . Um . So in the early 90s the group's activities became increasingly
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controversial , with reports of abuse and brainwashing
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and illegal activities surfacing . However
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, it was the sarin gas attack
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on the tokyo subway system
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on march 20th and 95 that
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brought global attention to them . So
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I remember hearing about a gas attack
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.
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But I didn't know it was a cult . I didn't know much about
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the cold , but you brought that up . I was like I've heard of that part
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yeah , so that's .
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That's pretty interesting cheeser . Why
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so ? During the
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attack , the members
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had released sarin nerve gas on
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several subway trains , resulting
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in the deaths of 13 people
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and injuring thousands . The
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attack shocked Japan and the world
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, leading to the widespread condemnation
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and massive crackdown on the group by
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Japanese authorities . So
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now , in the aftermath of all this , the cult and several high
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ranking members were arrested and charged with various crimes , including murder
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and conspiracy . And
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the cult leader was found guilty and sentenced to death , along with several other
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key members . And then , I guess , they did even more investigations
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and uncovered more illegal activities
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by the group , including other attempted
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chemical attacks and the murder
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of dissident members . So
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they did a rebranding in 2000
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as aleph a-l-e-p-h
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, claiming to have renounced
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its violent past and embracing a more
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peaceful philosophy . However
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, the group remains under close surveillance
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by Japanese authorities , who
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continue to monitor its activities
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to prevent any resurgence of violence
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or criminal behavior .
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Damn , so they're still around .
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Yeah , they are still around , just rebranded
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with a different name and different philosophies
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, or so they say .
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Not on bite .
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It's hard to say . I mean , you know , you
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probably do have some people that
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regret choices and what was done
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, but at the same time , others , or
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most of them , are so
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far gone in the brainwashing that what
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they're told is life .
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So is Cheezer still alive , or did they kill him ?
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Well , I mean , he's the one that was sentenced to death
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, so , and that being , this was before
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2000s , so
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he was sentenced to death back in the nineties . So
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yeah , I'm pretty sure he's . He's dead
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. Japanese death row is is
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very interesting .
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What was his name ? Again Cheeser .
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No , no , no , no . Well , his name
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, his born name was
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Chizio Matsumoto
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and he was born in 1995
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. But his name for
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the Super Bowl .
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Wait , he was born in 1995? .
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Sorry , 55 .
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Okay , I was about to say what the ? I
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was like a baby was running that cult .
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Yes , and his
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name for
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the Supreme Truth cult was
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Shoko Asahara .
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Shoko Asahara .
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Yes .
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Nah , Chizuo was a better name .
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I'm just still . I can't wrap my head around
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how they blended Buddhism , hinduism
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and Christianity . Those
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are , in my opinion
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, definitely
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polar opposites .
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Okay , so I did some research on Shoko
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Asahara Chizuo
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Matsumoto , All
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right . Born March 2nd 1955
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. Yep . Died July 6th . You
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want to guess what year ?
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Well , the bombing happened in 95
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, so I'm going to say 97
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, 98 .
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97 , 98 ? Nope . Yeah 2018
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, say 97 , 98 . 97 , 98 ? Nope 2018 .
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Oh damn . So he was on death
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row for a minute .
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Yeah , he was sentenced to death in 2004 .
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Holy shit .
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And his final appeal was 2011
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, and they scheduled his execution
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for 2012 , but it was postponed due
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to the arrest of all members
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, so they moved
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him for like a while until they
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executed him in 2018 .
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Damn . So they were like oh
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yeah , you know you're going to die , but
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you don't know when . Motherfucker .
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Oh yeah they executed him along with other senior members
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of the cult .
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Damn , that's pretty brutal Dude
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. That's fucking wild . Yeah , yeah
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, it's one of those things that you never
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Like . I said , without
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doing
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this research , I never would have known that
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one they were a cult , or
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two , that they were
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fucking related to that .
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Yeah , because I always heard of that bombing thing but
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I didn't know anything about it .
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Yeah .
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That's fucking crazy dude .
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Yeah , no , that's very interesting
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. I kind of want to see if I can find some more
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shit on him now have you seen a picture of him ? No
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, you'll have to show me after this
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. I want to see him .
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He looks like the sleepiest Jesus I've ever seen
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.
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Oh God .
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He's got resting , sleepy
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faces .
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So he looks like Permahai .
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Yes , that's exactly what he looks like .
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He's the one who never got not
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stoned . It looks like he ended every
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sentence with man oh yeah
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, come and join my cult and I
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promise we'll make you rich and you'll
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be godly man . You want
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to release toxic gases into the subway
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man ? You know what'll happen
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? Man , we'll stick it to
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the man , man .
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Yeah , fuck it , I'm going to call him Cheezus
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.
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There you go .
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Cheezus looks like he could fucking hacky sack . Maybe
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, that's crazy . I'm going to have to do some more research on that
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. That's fucking wild .
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Yeah , like I said , interesting history
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lessons . For
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those of you out there that knew about it , that is awesome . But uh
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, yeah , I didn't , and I
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will work the telegram
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invite , hopefully , into this
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description or this
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podcast episode's description . So
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keep an eye out for that one . So
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, uh , what you got for
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me .
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Yeah , my story's way shorter than that , so
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mine's less about murder and crime and
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mine's more like ghosty Not
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scary ghosty , more like helpful ghosties Helpful
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ghosty .
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I don't know how much I trust helpful ghosts Demon
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. Yeah , it's like you know your theory
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with kids and ghosts .
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Helpful ghosts are just demons demons ? Yep , I don't
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think so , but all children are
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all children .
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Ghosts are demons I mean sometimes
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children are demons you're
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not wrong no
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, now I get to experience that every
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day with my little demons oh
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, jesus , I love them though .
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Yeah , I remember you guys too . Yeah
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, they do . Here I'm manned and outgunned .
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If they decided to go full demonic , we'd
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be screwed , demon uprising . Yep
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.
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Yeah , so mine is more about a helpful goose
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.
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Hmm , let's hear about your
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real-life story of fucking Casper . Fuck
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off Casper wishes .
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Fuck off , casper
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wishes Right . So mine
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doesn't take place in Japan , mine
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takes place in Mexico . Oh
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, nice , nice , okay . So
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my story is basically about
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this sir , his name was Ramon , he
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was like late 30s , early
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40s and he was like
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the grave digger , kind of like caretaker
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of , like the great graveyard in mexico
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. Yeah , more specifically , I think
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it was in matamoros . So matamoros
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is basically like further
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in mexico and it's very dangerous
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. There's another story I eventually want to do about a satanic
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narco cult that ran out of matamoros , but
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we'll come back to that later . That's a that's a separate
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episode oh yeah , definitely
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gonna have to delve into that one so
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, mr , so don ramon well
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, not don ramon , I just call him ramon but
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he was a caretaker and he like used to clean
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up , like the graves , and he'd stick around throughout the day and then
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he like helped whoever needed help , like cleaning
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graves and all that like helping to
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find like locations and stuff right right
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and then they'd give them like a couple , like bucks
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or some shit . So you know how , like us
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dollars are worth more than mexico
12:35
dollars , right ? Yeah , so I'm gonna refer
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to the mexico peso as
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dollar . So just so you . So
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the story takes place in like
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90s , all
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right , and yeah , mid
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90s again . So Gotta
12:53
love the 90s . So Ramon's kid got
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like really sick and he needed money for medicine . Yeah
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, and , as you probably know , a lot of people in Mexico don't
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have a lot of money and there's not a lot of like well-paying
13:02
jobs . So he would stick around and try to
13:04
help people out . So
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he saw this old lady and she was like struggling to clean off a grave by herself . Like sweep it . So he goes over and
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like he helps her out and like he's like , do you need help with anything ? Like do you need a job done or something . He's like , oh yeah , just
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please . Like sweep this tomb right here and like
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, like , clean it up , like make
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it look nice , please , yeah . So
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he's like , oh yeah , I got you , I got you
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. So he ended up doing that and
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she ended up giving him 300 dollars , which is 300
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pesos , which is like 30 bucks
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. Yeah , that's what he needed for the medicine
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. And he's like , oh , thank you so much
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, that helped me so much . And she's like don't thank me , I
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didn't bring this to you . Like it's the dead . If
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you ever need like help from them or you need to like
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to ask him something , or something like that , just
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light a candle for the dead and they'll help you . So
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every day after that he'd light a candle and nothing would happen
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. He's like this is like I don't know why I'm still
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doing this . This is insane . Yeah , this
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is crazy . He's like this old lady doesn't know what she's talking about
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.
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I'm not seeing any results . God damn it pretty
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much , yeah .
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So then he stopped for a while . He was like
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they're not helping , they're not answering me . I
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wish I keep doing it . And then a
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couple years pass and then his wife gets
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really , really , really sick , like
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at death's door . He really needs medicine , money
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, but again he's poor . He
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needs about 500 pesos , which would be like 50
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ish bucks . Yeah , like I
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said , a lot of people in mexico don't have money , and further you
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go in , the poorer people are . It's
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not a very balanced system
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there . So he's like you know
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what , fuck it , it doesn't hurt for me to
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like try it one more time . So
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he lights a candle and he leaves it there and
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he's just cleaning around and he's like I'm gonna stay
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like later , because more people come during the night yeah
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so he's cleaning
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and it's about like I think it's like two or three in the
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morning . He just didn't want to go home and
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he sees this young guy come up like early
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20s , dressed to the nine
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, and like fucking gold necklaces , rings
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, like fancy , like dress shirt
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, like nice cowboy boots
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and all that shit , and he has a cooler of beer under
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his arm and he asked the guy
15:04
to instruct him where a tomb's at . He's like , oh
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, it's over here . And the guy's
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like , do you need money ? The
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guy's like yeah . He's like , what can I do ? He's
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like go clean these mausoleum over here . So just like
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just kind of like context
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In Mexico , narco
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, people , when they die , they build them like these giant
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fucking mausoleums . I think I've showed you before .
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Yeah .
15:28
They're like mini apartments that have like Wi-Fi
15:30
, like fucking air conditioning , so
15:35
like when their families come down they can stay there for a bit . So Tom's like , go clean this mausoleum
15:37
for me real nice . It's like make sure it's
15:39
sparkling , it's clean , it smells nice and all that
15:41
. The guy's like
15:43
, all right , cool , I got you . So he goes and the guys just sitting there drinking
15:46
beers and they're talking and all that
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. And then
15:50
the guy's like the Ramones
15:52
like all right , well , I'm going to take off my peace out . So
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he's just kind of shoot the shit and he's going to take off
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. And then the guy's like , well , here here's
15:59
a thousand bucks , not a thousand
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pesos , a thousand bucks . Oh
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damn , oh damn , yeah . So he's like here
16:06
you go . He's like thank you so much , I appreciate . It's
16:08
like it looks beautiful , like better than I've ever seen it
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before . And
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he's like , all right , cool . And he takes off . And
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then he comes back the next day and his boss is mad . He's
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like hey , come on . He's like what time did you leave
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? Like like two , three in the morning , why ? It's
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like somebody went into this tomb right here and
16:25
they fucking . They there's like beer
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thrown all over the place , there's cans
16:29
, there's cigarettes . Like there's fucking
16:31
, there's coke . It's
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like it's all right there . He's like what the fuck he's
16:36
like ? I thought you were supposed to be watching . He's like I was . I was here until
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like 3 in the morning and then
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the lady goes , she pulls out her phone and is like and
16:42
then the boss
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says and
16:52
the Ramon describes him like how he was dressed . And
16:55
then you see , like the lady that was there , like pale , she
16:57
turns like fucking pale and starts sweating and
17:00
she quickly goes into her purse and she pulls out her phone and starts scrolling
17:02
through pictures . And she pulls out her pictures
17:04
like is this what he looked like ? And
17:07
then he's like yeah , yeah , that's him , that's the kid
17:09
. And then she goes this is my son , he
17:19
died three years years ago and that mausoleum right there that's his
17:21
mausoleum . So basically the story is how a ghost gave this guy money .
17:22
Huh , light a candle for the dead yeah
17:25
, I mean , it
17:27
just goes to show you that you
17:30
know , sometimes , uh , your beliefs
17:32
can get you kind of far , maybe , not
17:35
necessarily monetarily
17:37
far like that .
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Yeah , but it's wild to think about their stories where
17:41
people they've interacted with ghosts and they don't even know
17:43
until later on , like vivid .
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Well , what is it Like ? The video
17:48
that went around on YouTube . It's a Mexican
17:50
mechanic and his
17:53
boss is watching surveillance video
17:55
with him and he's having a conversation , but
17:58
there's no one there and
18:00
he's talking about a car that he's working on
18:02
and he ends up uh , his
18:04
boss radios down to him like hey , what are you doing
18:06
there ? calls him , and he you know you
18:08
can see him moving and going like oh , I'm talking to
18:11
this guy yeah and he's like , oh no
18:13
, he , uh , he's the one who died
18:15
in this car accident like fixing
18:17
his car shit , and he looks
18:19
around and yeah , it freaked him the fuck out
18:21
, because then that guy wasn't there what
18:23
the fuck yeah why is it always mexico
18:26
?
18:27
that or japan , oh yeah they always have
18:29
the trippiest fucking there's gotta be some kind of like thin
18:31
spiritual line there that allows like so much
18:33
shit to go on right ?
18:36
well , I mean , I believe people in other
18:38
countries as well are a lot more spiritual
18:41
than we are I mean if you
18:43
think about it . Yeah , we have people that you know will
18:46
say they're religious , but that's
18:48
really only jumping on the bandwagon of saying
18:50
, hey , I'm part of this group yeah
18:52
it's . It's not like other places
18:55
where faith is basically
18:57
put into them from
19:01
, you know , when they're basically born , but
19:03
it's done in a way where it's friendly and not
19:05
kind of oh yeah , this is what you're
19:07
doing , this is what you're gonna do and you're gonna fucking
19:09
lack it , type thing yeah , like there's
19:12
more forms of like different spirituality
19:14
in those religions , yeah , most definitely . Well , not religion , the cultures
19:16
, because , like spanish , they have like , like , there's more forms of like different spirituality in those religions ?
19:17
Yeah , most definitely . Well , not religion , the cultures , cause , like Spanish , they
19:20
have like Santeria
19:22
, paloma , my own Bay like
19:24
Catholicism , christianity
19:26
. It goes deep , like the same thing
19:29
for the you could be said for anything , but they
19:31
have like a deeper respect
19:33
for the spirits .
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Yeah , which is a good
19:37
thing . I mean we all should yeah .
19:40
But there's a lot of people you know that I'm like well , I'm fucking
19:42
my name's Toby , I'm
19:44
going to fuck with this ghost today . Right
19:47
, I go , suck my ass . It's
19:49
shit like that . That's really annoying , Cause you see
19:51
people like , oh well , I , I could actually
19:53
want to help , like this family
19:55
that's being terrorized by this ghost . Oh , it's not actually
19:58
terrorizing them , it's like a loved one trying to help
20:00
you out .
20:01
Yeah .
20:01
Then you got to fucking . Yeah , suck my ass
20:04
. I don't know why I'm stuck on . Suck my ass
20:06
, ghost . Like fucking , fight me , ghost
20:08
, show yourself .
20:10
If you know , you're just a coward and you deserve
20:12
to die again . You're
20:15
a ghost bitch , it's like all right , Toby
20:17
, whatever , Go back under your
20:19
rock .
20:19
I felt a breeze . I felt a breeze .
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No
20:24
, someone just passed wind in your direction .
20:26
Yeah , but if you watch ghost hunting shows
20:28
in Spanish , they're a lot more respectful about
20:31
that . They're like we're
20:33
going into this place . You have to be very respectful
20:35
. Don't taunt anything like , don't challenge
20:38
it , just if it's going to appear to you
20:40
.
20:40
It's going to appear to you and a lot of times it
20:42
starts popping off yeah
20:45
, I think , uh , at
20:47
least any non-malevolent
20:49
spirits will probably have a better reaction
20:51
towards good reactions
20:53
than you know yeah , shit talking
20:55
, oh yeah now I did notice
20:58
in what is it ? Uh , japanese
21:00
and like asian ghost
21:02
hunting videos , like their thing is
21:04
talking shit . But it's not out of disrespect
21:07
, it's just their reaction
21:10
.
21:10
I've seen that it's your
21:12
mother bitch . Your mother bitch ghost .
21:14
I was like jesus they run after
21:16
him like it's insane .
21:18
Oh yeah , they get like shit thrown at them and they're like
21:20
what happened ? Why , what is ? I don't
21:22
know what happened . What did I do ? And then
21:24
they run over in the direction yeah
21:26
, you fucker , you fucked around and you found out . That's
21:29
what happened , right , so
21:32
nobody's fucking stupid enough to do that . Yeah
21:34
, yeah , or .
21:35
Yeah , or who knows , it could
21:37
be brave enough for them , is
21:39
it ? It all depends on your definition
21:41
of brave .
21:43
They're fucking dumb is what they are .
21:46
But you know what I
21:49
believe ? That's all we have for you , folks , today
21:51
.
21:51
Yes , sir , it was a little bit of a shorter episode
21:53
, but you kept it nice and sweet .
21:55
Yes , so hopefully you guys enjoyed that . Again
21:58
, I will put the telegram
22:00
in , so join in there . Notifications
22:04
and all that shit work a hell of a lot better
22:06
on there , so that's
22:08
why the switch .
22:10
Yep , yep , remember
22:12
, guys . Light a candle for your ghost , toss a coin
22:14
to your witcher and we will see you
22:16
next time in Helheim . Bye
22:18
, thank
22:38
you .
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