Daniel and Carl discuss Lionel Messi winning his eighth Ballon d'Or. Jude Bellingham shining against Barcelona. Does the 20-year-old need a new signature celebration? Carl breaks down the situations at Manchester United. Daniel tries to explain the goal problem at Chelsea. Ajax can't go lower than 18th, maybe.

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