0:13

From Vision Australia. This is talking

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vision. And

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now here's your host, Sam

0:20

Colley.

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Hello everyone. It's great to be here with

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you. And for the next half hour

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we talk matters of blindness and low

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vision.

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It is challenging because

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it takes a lot of creative

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energy to sort of do all

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the different aspects, whereas,

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you know, a lot of the times and artists would,

0:42

you know, write the song, perform

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the song, but wouldn't normally

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produce the song or mix the song

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or master the song. I kind

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of have to put a quite a few different

0:52

hats on within that designated

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space, which is a challenge, but I'm

0:57

very much enjoying it.

0:58

Welcome to the program! This

1:01

week I catch up with Anthony, a

1:03

singer with low vision who sings,

1:05

write his own songs, produces

1:07

the music, mixes and does

1:09

the social media all on his own.

1:12

Anthony set himself an ambitious

1:14

target of releasing a song every

1:16

two weeks this year, and to

1:19

find out more about that, make sure

1:21

to tune in very shortly, as that

1:23

interview is just around the corner.

1:25

And then after I speak with Anthony,

1:28

I'm joined by Manager of Audio

1:30

Description Services at Vision

1:32

Australia, Michael Ward, to tell

1:34

us all about the latest offerings

1:37

from the audio description side

1:39

of things. Then, before we go this

1:41

week, Francis calendars back

1:43

with a reader recommended and

1:45

we finish up with a little bit of

1:48

news and information. I

1:50

hope you'll enjoy this week's episode

1:52

of Talking Vision. Anthony

1:58

Rocco is a singer, songwriter,

2:01

producer, production engineer

2:03

and social media guru with

2:05

low vision, otherwise known

2:07

by his stage name Tony Low

2:09

Key. In 2024,

2:12

Anthony is setting out to share his

2:14

talents with everybody across

2:16

all streaming platforms and social

2:18

media, and it's my great pleasure

2:21

to welcome him now to chat all about

2:23

it. Anthony, welcome to Talking

2:26

Vision. Thanks so much for your time.

2:28

Thanks for having me on, Sam.

2:30

Firstly, as I understand it, Anthony, you're

2:32

quite passionate about music.

2:35

Where did that all start for you?

2:37

You know, I was raised in a musical family.

2:39

My mother sings and

2:42

plays guitar and wrote songs,

2:44

and she was in country

2:46

clubs back when I was younger. One

2:49

stage in my life, she was

2:51

singing, busking. It was financial

2:53

issues. And, you know, she used to talent

2:56

to busk outside of

2:58

like a Kmart in our local Kmart.

3:00

And you know, she would make a, you

3:02

know, a good amount of money from doing

3:05

that. And as a kid I

3:07

would be there with her just sort of looking

3:09

out for her and should give me some money

3:11

to get a get a doughnut or something

3:13

like that. Yeah. Music

3:15

has always been around me.

3:18

Yeah. It had just been instilled

3:20

in me from, you know, ever since

3:22

I can remember.

3:23

And would you regard yourself

3:25

as more of a traditional

3:27

musician with sort of instruments and that

3:30

sort of thing, or more of an electronic

3:32

side of things?

3:34

I think a little bit of both. Um,

3:36

I sing and I play the keyboard,

3:39

and I also do electronic

3:42

things like programmed drums and,

3:44

you know, do the technical side

3:46

of things with mixing and

3:49

use synthesizers and programmed

3:51

those sort of sounds as well. So

3:54

I like to sort of delve into,

3:57

you know, all the different aspects of

3:59

music I can and experiment with different

4:01

sounds and textures and things.

4:03

You know, in recent years you,

4:05

um, you experienced vision loss

4:07

over some period of time

4:09

and that would have thrown up quite

4:12

a few obstacles for you. But what

4:14

sort of impact has that had on your

4:16

music and what are the specifics

4:18

there if you're comfortable chatting about that?

4:21

Yeah, absolutely. So I

4:23

was born of a hereditary

4:26

eye condition called retinitis

4:28

pigmentosa, which deteriorates

4:30

over time. When I

4:32

left high school, I did a

4:35

course in audio engineering.

4:37

You know, I felt that was sort of the right path

4:39

for me to go. And then I

4:41

sort of moved on to I

4:43

actually started producing

4:46

music for local

4:48

independent record label. But

4:50

from then until now, my

4:52

eyesight sort of slowly,

4:55

increasingly deteriorated. So

4:58

I was recording people

5:00

and sort of a freelance audio

5:02

engineer. And as my eyesight

5:04

deteriorated, it became

5:07

increasingly more difficult to

5:09

do what I could do. In

5:12

the same amount of time, I became

5:14

slower at doing things. Things

5:16

that normally would take a few

5:19

seconds would start to take, you know,

5:21

a minute or two minutes. And as

5:23

a business that became

5:26

didn't it wasn't viable to

5:28

sort of keep doing it that

5:30

way.

5:31

Did you come up with any sort of

5:33

life hacks or work out

5:35

some adaptations to

5:37

get around certain things

5:39

over a period of time, which

5:41

helped you get back into the

5:43

music that you're doing now? What sort

5:45

of been the most helpful thing

5:47

for you?

5:48

Yeah, so I use a screen

5:51

magnifier on my computer.

5:53

I also use Jaws

5:55

technology, screen reading technology,

5:58

which has helped a lot. I

6:00

use a lot of shortcuts with hotkeys.

6:02

For me, know them is just to sort of

6:05

get to certain places I need

6:07

to go faster without using the mouse.

6:09

I've also got like hardware

6:12

controllers where I can control

6:14

certain volume knobs and different

6:16

functions of my recording software.

6:19

With a physical hardware

6:21

mixer and different lighting

6:23

puts lighting above my keyboard

6:26

and, you know, above things. I

6:28

want to be able to see a little bit better

6:31

LED strips around the place, so

6:33

I can see the outline of the room

6:35

a little bit better and things like that, and

6:37

just all sorts of little bits

6:39

like that, that kind of, you know, make

6:41

a big difference.

6:42

And, um, we'll go back to a

6:44

few years ago when you were

6:47

experiencing those vision

6:49

issues and you moved away

6:51

from music for a little while

6:53

and got into doing a few

6:55

other things, pursuing other

6:57

sort of career options like working

7:00

in the community services

7:02

sector. So tell us a bit about

7:04

your time there. Yeah.

7:06

So my passion has always

7:08

been within music, but I also

7:11

had a passion for community services.

7:13

You know, I love supporting people that need

7:16

support and the community. So

7:18

that was a passion I wanted to pursue.

7:20

So in 2021, I

7:23

started a community Services

7:25

diploma course and completed

7:27

that in 2022. And

7:30

last year I was on the

7:32

hunt for employment and was

7:34

unlucky and didn't manage to

7:36

secure. Or anything at that time.

7:38

So when it came to 2024

7:41

this year, I decided that I wanted

7:43

to do something that I've always wanted to

7:45

do, but had never gotten around

7:47

to it, which was to release

7:50

my own music. Totally.

7:52

Everything done by myself, which

7:54

means, you know, produce the music, write the

7:56

songs, mix the songs,

7:59

mastered the songs, released the songs.

8:01

And although I had

8:03

been in a few bands

8:05

previous to that, and we've

8:07

released music as a band,

8:09

but, you know, I've never

8:12

released anything solo

8:14

on my own. So I set

8:16

a goal for this year to back

8:18

myself and re conjure up all the

8:20

skills and knowledge that I've

8:22

gathered over the years and put it in

8:24

my own music and get that journey

8:26

on the road. I guess.

8:28

You know, you've set yourself another

8:30

really ambitious goal to release

8:32

a song every two weeks, so that's

8:34

pretty incredible. And as you've said,

8:37

you're producing, writing, performing,

8:39

mixing, mastering the whole thing

8:41

on your own. That's pretty exciting.

8:43

Look forward to sort of seeing how that

8:45

goes.

8:46

Yeah. So it is very

8:48

challenging and ambitious, but I'm

8:50

the type of person that loves a good challenge. Yeah.

8:53

So every two weeks

8:55

a new song will come out, give or take

8:57

two weeks. It could be three. But at the

9:00

moment it's been averaging two

9:02

weeks. And yeah, it is

9:04

challenging because it takes a

9:06

lot of creative energy

9:08

to sort of do all the different

9:10

aspects, whereas,

9:12

you know, a lot of the times and artists would,

9:14

you know, write the song, perform

9:17

the song, but wouldn't normally

9:19

produce the song or mix the song

9:21

or master the song. I kind of

9:23

have to put a quite a few different

9:25

hats on within that designated

9:27

space, which is a challenge, but I'm

9:29

very much enjoying it.

9:31

And there's a lot of planning and promoting

9:33

and developing of various strategies

9:36

and things that goes into that. So

9:38

has all of that been going and what

9:40

sort of ideas have you got around that?

9:43

Yeah. So, um, a promotional

9:46

strategy is a lot of social

9:48

media campaigns, and

9:51

there will be to come some

9:53

short form content. So, like,

9:56

you know, the short sort of TikTok

9:58

sort of videos or the Instagram Reels

10:00

of Facebook real type videos.

10:03

A lot of research I've been doing is those

10:05

are the most effective ways

10:07

to promote music sort of nowaday

10:10

and, you know, to get your sound

10:13

out to a wider audience. Also,

10:15

just putting out videos, and

10:18

the big part of what I want to

10:20

do is, you know, I want to bring people

10:22

on the journey with me because I'm

10:24

writing the songs as I'm

10:26

going. Then, you know, there's an

10:28

opportunity there for people that

10:30

are following me on social media to

10:33

have an input on what

10:35

I'm doing. You know, they might be able to

10:37

give me topics of,

10:40

you know, what the song could be about,

10:42

or give me ideas about

10:44

things and sort of go back and forth like that.

10:46

And I think, you know, that'll be a, you

10:48

know, nice way to bring people along

10:51

the journey with me.

10:52

What's the best way for people to

10:54

follow along with your journey? And,

10:57

you know, have a listen to your music and

10:59

stream it through their own platforms.

11:01

What's the best way for people to do that?

11:04

I'm available on all streaming

11:06

platforms. My artist name is

11:08

Tony Loki. T o n

11:10

y l o w e

11:12

y and I'm on

11:15

Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok

11:17

under the same name, Tony

11:19

Low Key Music. And yeah,

11:21

that's where I post all of my

11:23

updates and announcements and

11:26

things like that. And I'm hoping to

11:28

put more of my personal

11:30

site out there. You know, everything

11:32

just won't be about music. It'll be

11:35

about, you know, sort of getting to know me.

11:37

And you know what my thoughts

11:39

are on, you know, just everyday topics

11:41

and things like that as well.

11:43

Well, that certainly sounds quite interesting

11:45

for people out there. If they wanted to,

11:47

you know, get to know the person behind

11:50

the songs as well as catching

11:52

up and, uh, following your music as

11:54

well. So very keen to

11:56

see how that all goes or follow that

11:58

with great interest. I've been speaking

12:01

today with Anthony Walker, otherwise

12:03

known as Tony Low Key, all

12:05

about his new exciting

12:07

music career in 2024.

12:10

Very excited to see how it all goes.

12:12

So definitely keep in touch

12:14

and um, hope it all goes well.

12:17

Thank you so much, Sam. Yeah,

12:19

um, it's great to be on and

12:22

thank.

12:29

I'm Sam Colley and you're listening to

12:31

Talking Vision on Vision Australia

12:33

Radio, associated Stations

12:36

of Reading Radio and the Community

12:38

Radio Network. I hope

12:40

you enjoyed that conversation there with

12:42

Anthony. Otherwise known as Tony

12:45

Low Key. If you missed any part

12:47

of that conversation with Anthony

12:49

or you'd love to hear from him again.

12:51

Talking vision is available on

12:54

the Vision Australia Radio website

12:56

on RVA radio.org.

12:58

That's RVA radio.org.

13:01

You can also find the program

13:03

on the podcast app of your choice

13:06

or through the Vision Australia library.

13:08

And now back to the show. Audio

13:11

description offers people who are blind

13:13

or have low vision, an understanding

13:15

of what is happening visually within

13:17

a theatre, TV, film,

13:19

museum, exhibition or

13:22

other arts related productions.

13:24

It's an additional narration that

13:26

succinctly paints an image of

13:28

transitions, movements, gestures,

13:31

props, settings, costumes and

13:33

scenery woven between the dialogues.

13:35

And to have a chat with me all

13:38

about the latest audio description

13:40

offerings available to people

13:43

out there. It's my great pleasure

13:45

to welcome back Vision Australia

13:47

manager of audio Description

13:49

services, Michael Ward. Michael,

13:52

welcome back to Talking Vision. Thanks

13:54

very much for your time.

13:56

Ah, thanks for having me, Sam.

13:58

Now, people may be aware

14:00

that audio description is quite

14:02

prevalent across ABC

14:04

and SBS on TV.

14:06

So, um, what sort of programs

14:09

can people look forward to getting

14:11

audio description over the next month

14:13

or so? Yeah.

14:14

Um, Sam, on TV, there's quite

14:17

a wide selection of audio described

14:19

programs on, as you say, ABC

14:21

and SBS these days. Uh,

14:23

I think each station's doing around 14

14:26

hours. Um, of course we'd always like

14:28

more, but, um, people are

14:30

using the audio description on television

14:32

and getting a great deal out of that. It just means

14:35

that they can follow the story a lot closer

14:37

and get all those visual cues which

14:39

aren't always there. So

14:41

everything from kids shows to,

14:43

uh, documentaries to, you know,

14:45

um, I see Joanna Lumley very popular

14:48

series where she travels around Britain has been

14:50

audio described play school for

14:52

the kids. Of course, blowie is a big factor

14:54

with a lot of people, and Gardening

14:56

Australia is always, always popular.

14:59

People love Gardening Australia. It

15:01

is great. There is some great audio description

15:03

with that. With that TV show they certainly

15:05

do.

15:05

And also quite an exciting

15:08

development in recent months

15:10

is the audio description has

15:13

made its way over to various streaming

15:15

platforms. Michael. So that's

15:17

quite a welcome development. And what

15:19

sort of things can people expect there.

15:22

Yeah. Um, it's certainly um, quite

15:24

a lot of options. And just on the back of the

15:26

free to air audio described broadcast

15:28

of the ABC and SBS, both

15:30

formats are now moved over to their catch up.

15:32

So ABC's iview and

15:35

SBS On Demand now

15:37

feature audio described shows

15:39

which they hadn't previously

15:41

done. So. So you had to tune in that

15:43

time when the show was playing

15:45

on television, right? The one drawback

15:48

with that is that you can only access those

15:50

on the demand, and the eye view on

15:53

your phone or your laptop hasn't quite

15:55

moved on to the smart TVs yet. And,

15:57

um, we hope that they can get that in place fairly

15:59

soon.

16:00

And, um.

16:01

Moving over to the live

16:03

performance aspect of things with

16:05

people who like to make their way out

16:07

to the theatre and musicals

16:10

and what have you, what sort of things

16:12

can people look forward to there?

16:14

Yeah. Thanks, Sam. We, um, we really

16:16

hit the ground running this year. Uh, I think a lot

16:18

of your listeners would know that we have

16:20

a fairly extensive live theatre audio

16:23

described program of, you know, around

16:25

200 shows across the country each

16:27

year. And we spent a fair bit of

16:29

time last year setting up the 2024.

16:32

And, um, look, it's bigger and

16:34

bolder every year. And this year we have some

16:36

fantastic shows coming up, um, as

16:38

well as the big musicals, which a lot of people

16:40

like to do. And to give you an example of that,

16:43

we've just done, uh, rent, um,

16:45

the musical, we've done Chicago

16:48

Grease coming up, we're doing Groundhog

16:50

Day, which is the Tim Minchin adaptation

16:53

of that movie. Uh, a lot of interest

16:55

in that. We're doing, uh, Wicked

16:58

in Melbourne as well. There's

17:00

so many different musicals at the moment. It's

17:02

fantastic. And people can pick a whole style

17:04

that they like to go to. There's also

17:06

a great deal of drama. So Sydney Theatre

17:08

Company, Melbourne Theatre Company, so

17:11

a lot of gritty, earthy stories

17:13

that people can follow. We're

17:15

also doing a lot of ballet this year, which

17:17

is certainly growing an audience. A lot of people

17:20

are, um, particularly if they have low

17:22

vision, are getting a great deal out of the

17:24

ballet and getting that storyline

17:26

as well as the beautiful movements on stage.

17:28

The audio description is describing that with

17:31

a lot of finesse and detail. We have some

17:33

fantastic audio describers who have

17:35

skill sets in each of these genres, and

17:37

they work quite hard. They're actually like

17:39

they would go to the show 3 to 4 times

17:41

to prepare. We work off script, to

17:44

work off archive videos, and so

17:46

dozens and dozens of hours go into

17:48

preparing the audio description, which

17:50

is then delivered live at the theatre.

17:53

Okay.

17:53

And, Michael, if people are listening

17:56

to this and they're, you know, just

17:58

they might want to know a little bit more about

18:00

audio description. Or perhaps

18:02

they'd love to get their name

18:04

onto the mailing list for

18:07

all future audio described

18:09

shows and live performances,

18:12

what's the best way for them

18:14

to do that?

18:15

Yeah. Thanks, Sam. There's a few ways people can

18:17

find out what's going on. There's an events page

18:20

on the Vision Australia website which

18:22

hosts all the audio described performances

18:24

coming up. Um, you can also call

18:26

Vision Australia on one 384,

18:29

74, 66 and

18:31

find out what's what's coming up. But the best

18:33

way is to join the audio description

18:35

email list. And the reason is that when

18:37

a new release comes out, we want to get that information

18:40

out to people as quickly as possible. And

18:42

that email goes out. People can get in, get their tickets,

18:45

they can, um, purchase their tickets with

18:47

a companion card, which is two for one,

18:49

which is a fantastic deal. They also

18:51

receive pre-show notes before the show,

18:54

which gives all the visual details of the

18:56

set and the costumes and so on, and

18:58

also alerts to people to cocktail tours

19:00

that we also put on prior

19:02

to the show. That's audio described. People

19:05

get to go in and meet the casket on the stage

19:07

and experience the state firsthand.

19:10

So all this information happens quite

19:12

quickly before the show. When you're

19:14

on that email list, it's the best way to,

19:16

uh, to receive that. And the best way to do

19:18

that is to call Vision Australia, ask

19:21

to be put through to the audio description department.

19:23

Or you could email me directly if you

19:25

like it. Uh, Michael Ward

19:27

at Vision Australia.

19:29

Org that Vision Australia

19:31

number again 1300 847 466.

19:35

Or email Michael to find

19:38

out a little bit more. And you can of

19:40

course as Michael said head to

19:42

the events page on the Vision

19:44

Australia website which is

19:46

Vision Australia. Org,

19:48

that's Vision Australia or

19:50

one word.org. I've

19:53

been speaking today with Michael

19:55

Ward, manager of Audio Description

19:58

Services at Vision Australia,

20:00

telling us all about the latest

20:02

in audio description and some upcoming

20:05

events for people to get excited

20:07

about. Michael, thanks so

20:09

much for your time today. It is a pleasure to

20:11

catch up with you again and talk all

20:13

about audio description.

20:16

Thanks, Sam. It's always great to be on his show.

20:18

And and thank you for allowing us

20:20

to spread the word of audio description.

20:26

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20:28

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challenge all played a part in

21:34

Turnbull's downfall. But so

21:36

did Turnbull's own poor political

21:38

judgement. He was a good prime minister and

21:40

a terrible politician. The good bits of

21:42

Malcolm were not enough to make up for the bad

21:44

Malcolm. Nevertheless, the sheer

21:46

brutality of his removal left many

21:49

liberals aghast. MPs

21:51

were traumatised or humiliated by

21:53

eight days of madness. Men

21:55

and women cried from sheer anguish.

21:57

They went through hell and feared when it

21:59

was over that they would not make it back and

22:01

nor would the Liberal Party. As

22:04

it turned out, redemption came with Morrison's

22:06

unexpected single handed to 2019

22:09

election victory. Turnbull's

22:12

road ended in ruins as it was always

22:14

bound to, and as he always knew it would.

22:16

As he predicted to Niki Savva less

22:18

than three years before it happened. But

22:20

when his end was imminent, he could not

22:23

bear to let it go, and when it was over

22:25

he was defiant, fragile, and,

22:27

yes, vengeful. This is the inside

22:30

story of what happened and what happened

22:32

next. Let's hear a sample of

22:34

Plots and Prayers by Niki

22:36

Savva. It's narrated by

22:39

Daniel Wilkes.

22:41

Malcolm Turnbull does not believe that Scott

22:43

Morrison's stunning election victory

22:45

vindicated the coup against him. Turnbull

22:48

remains confident he could have won in

22:50

2019 and

22:52

besides, the revolt by the right was

22:55

designed to install Peter Dutton,

22:57

not Morrison, as prime minister.

22:59

The last person Dutton and his

23:02

backers wanted to lead the party was Turnbull.

23:04

The second lost was Morrison.

23:07

Turnbull also firmly believes that

23:09

by holding out against the insurgents

23:12

during coup week by delaying

23:14

a second ballot, he gave Morrison

23:16

precious time to gather the numbers

23:18

to triumph over Dutton. If

23:21

there was any consolation for Turnbull,

23:23

this was it, particularly as

23:25

he and those closest to him had

23:27

warned the plotters that if they persisted,

23:30

the week would end with Morrison,

23:32

whom they disliked, being sworn

23:34

in as prime minister. It

23:37

was only a part of Turnbull's strategy

23:39

that Morrison should succeed. The

23:41

other part, the primary objective, of

23:43

course, was to save himself.

23:45

Morrison, the most astute

23:47

conservative politician of his generation,

23:50

did need the extra time that Turnbull

23:52

bought him. But the plotting

23:54

and planning by his lieutenants was

23:56

already well advanced. It

23:59

is impossible to get to where he got

24:01

in 24 hours, which is what

24:03

he later wanted people to believe.

24:06

Morrison had done what he could

24:08

to save Turnbull from himself.

24:10

He knew he would be damaged if

24:12

people thought he had ascended to the

24:14

Liberal leadership by being disloyal,

24:16

or if he had blood on his hands.

24:19

The image of him as a clean skin

24:21

was vital to his success.

24:23

This did not stop some of his backers

24:26

from talking about how it happened, nor

24:28

his enemies from trying to sully his

24:30

reputation. He would not

24:32

allow any of this to distract him

24:34

from his singular objective of

24:37

winning an election already deemed

24:39

lost through the disunity and

24:41

the despair that had embedded

24:43

itself in Liberal ranks after

24:45

the knifing of two prime ministers.

24:48

That was plots and prayers

24:50

by Niki Savva. Niki

24:52

is spelt Niki,

24:54

sorry, Niki and

24:57

Seva is a double. Vassa,

25:00

W.Va. the book goes

25:02

for about 14.5

25:04

hours.

25:12

Now, before we go this week, we'll wrap

25:14

up with a little bit of news and information.

25:17

The Brimbank Writers and Readers

25:20

Festival is taking place across

25:22

the western suburbs of Melbourne, from

25:24

the 14th to the 23rd

25:27

of March, and one of the events

25:29

people can look forward to is Read

25:31

My Way. Reading with All Our Senses

25:34

held at the Sunshine Library

25:36

on 301 Hampshire Road,

25:38

sunshine on the 22nd of

25:41

March from 2:00 to 3:30

25:43

p.m.. Join Vision Australia

25:45

for an immersive exploration

25:47

of different ways of reading, with

25:50

a journey through audio, braille and

25:52

tactile literacy and learning

25:54

here about the creation of

25:56

accessible formats, the challenges

25:58

of finding alternatives in a print

26:01

saturated world, and the

26:03

impact for people who have a print

26:05

disability. Explore

26:07

accessible stories, games, and

26:09

Braille in a fun and interactive

26:12

way that's read more by

26:14

Reading with All Our Senses taking

26:16

place at the Sunshine Library on

26:18

the 22nd of March between 2

26:21

and 3:30 p.m.. For

26:23

an accessible listing of the event

26:25

and to register. Head to

26:27

the brain Bank library's website

26:30

at Brimbank Libraries Victoria

26:34

that's Brimbank

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libraries or one word.vic.gov

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