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Steve Dave. Presents and

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forgive or kill. The

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account person the assist said the name of

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the kind. The kind

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coming in Dr. Flanagan

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and Penn Johnson. This

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week's episode Hello

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and welcome to this week's edition of

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Tell him Steve Dave. Yo Walt. Yo.

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Yo Q. Yo. What a

0:56

day I had today. What? What a

0:58

day. What did you do? I got a call first thing

1:00

in the morning. Remember I was telling you about Sage and

1:04

her saying that like there were people around her and

1:06

she was hearing voices and that kind of stuff. Yeah.

1:08

And so she went and she, we did an online

1:10

interview. We did an online thing

1:13

with the shrink who was like, yeah, that seems

1:15

kind of normal for her

1:17

condition. You know, like that's what people

1:19

with Down syndrome do is like

1:21

they'll emote the work things out like audibly,

1:24

you know, so like what

1:27

she was doing was not really like that of normal. And

1:30

she did it again today, except today she drew

1:32

a picture of a gun picture

1:34

of ghosts under a bed waiting to get her. And

1:37

then a picture of her on top of the bed with her

1:39

eyes axed out. Oh, wow. Do you

1:41

have the picture? I can get

1:43

the picture. That picture is going to be worth a fortune. Right?

1:47

You will put it on a shirt. You

1:50

can get on the bottom. I mean, I have to.

1:53

So today I had to, they insisted I come over. I

1:55

had to go to the store. school

2:01

and not only that but I had to

2:03

then go to a meeting and after that

2:05

take her for a screening at the psych

2:07

ward in a in a

2:10

Riverview. Oh so

2:12

this was not this is my

2:14

day from 9 30 till quarter

2:16

to five yeah I thought it

2:18

was a little overreaction. I thought so too yeah

2:20

I mean because the questions are asking her they're

2:22

like are you afraid where you live and you

2:25

know like normal questions I guess they would ask

2:27

anybody but really it's just like do

2:29

you think you're gonna hurt someone and it's like if

2:31

you if you know the kid she's like the most good-natured

2:33

kid. Yeah. It's like you're not hurting anybody but

2:36

now I have to go to another

2:38

meeting tomorrow I'm gonna keep everybody

2:40

updated on stages fucking psych they because they're

2:42

like it could be psychosis that

2:45

that leads into like a schizophrenia.

2:47

Wait you go to Down syndrome and have schizophrenia?

2:50

Yeah they said as a matter of fact like

2:52

this is around the age where a lot of

2:54

times it it'll take hold

2:57

so. Now does it does

3:00

the picture look like does

3:02

somebody have to interpret it like that's a gun or

3:04

is it look really like a gun? I could I

3:06

kind of tried it her I was like that looks

3:08

more like a hairdryer than a gun. Oh it looks

3:10

like a hairdryer than it's like yeah okay so it

3:12

doesn't look like a ghost like a traditional ghost? No.

3:15

How does anybody know it's a ghost then? Because she

3:17

tells them. She said there's three ghosts that live under

3:19

her bed one of them is an old man with

3:21

a cracked face I'm like hey I got my own

3:23

bed. Has she been watching too many

3:27

scary movies? I think maybe I

3:29

think the Annabelle because Annabelle has

3:32

that cracked face you know yeah

3:34

that aged distressed face she's

3:36

constantly watching this stuff called spy ninjas but I think

3:38

that's more of a kids thing I don't think that's

3:40

an adult thing but

3:43

now she has to regularly see

3:45

a psychiatrist in order to make

3:48

sure that she's not going nuts. Are

3:51

you concerned or you think it's just like this

3:53

just them like just a state being? I feel

3:55

like it's I kind of feel like a nanny

3:57

state yes it's the school being like

3:59

look If this kid draws a picture of a gun

4:01

and then for whatever reason she brings

4:04

a gun in we're gonna be fucked So let's

4:06

like you said, let's let's overreact to everything just

4:08

so that we can be sure I

4:12

know I they give no margin

4:15

of error for kids like just because you have Down

4:17

syndrome They're like they don't give a fuck. Yeah, this

4:19

is a kid talking about violence. So we gotta You

4:23

know, there's no quarter given for that So

4:26

that's the update on my day. What is

4:28

a oh god, it sucked At a

4:30

certain point when I was at the hospital, I was like, hey,

4:32

I have to I have to

4:34

go soon, you know overkill

4:38

Very big day and It

4:41

turned out that I think they forgot about us. We were

4:43

sitting there for probably an hour for no reason. Oh my

4:45

god Thank

4:48

you Can't

4:50

blow up. No, you gotta be your

4:52

best behavior Yeah, you

4:54

gotta be had your absolute best behavior needles and

4:57

pins needles and pins Oh

5:04

That's off that's awful. Yeah, so I'm

5:06

just I'm really hoping that it's not

5:08

worst case scenario and it's not like

5:10

wow This is developing into like something

5:12

actually But we I

5:15

mean before you know Before

5:18

stage we we had contact with another

5:22

little girl who had downs and

5:24

we saw her go into

5:26

like Scenarios where she was just immersed

5:28

into a fantasy world where she was a teacher

5:30

and she was teaching all the students in the

5:32

class For hours on in never she was a

5:34

teacher too. She wouldn't take any shit from anybody

5:36

Yeah, she'd set up stuffed animals and she'd pretend

5:39

she was a teacher And you just

5:41

let her go like for three hours a day Like

5:43

we were watching a kid who you

5:45

know who would go into a fantasy world and

5:47

it's I think that's just I think

5:49

it's part Of it. Yeah, I think it's part

5:51

of the condition, isn't it? That's that's always what

5:53

I thought because I'm like, there's no way this

5:55

kid talks non fucking stop at home Yeah,

6:01

that's what we had a new little girl named

6:03

Shanique and she would come to the community center

6:05

every day And as soon as she got there

6:07

to the moment she left she was teaching a

6:09

fake class Yeah now granted there were no

6:11

ghosts and she didn't have a gun Part

6:14

of her curriculum The

6:19

kids had track faces The

6:22

mean teacher, but yeah, but she would be like a bit

6:24

like she would all of a sudden She would go like

6:26

start yelling and freaking out and we're like what's wrong? That

6:28

kids like you know that kids being fresh. No,

6:30

there was no kid there Yeah,

6:35

yeah, they're very similar and yeah They

6:37

were going to like very dramatic to

6:40

like stages very dramatic play act it

6:42

was yeah, just play acting and creating

6:45

Scenarios, but I guess you know, there's no No

6:49

harm, I guess and being overly there's

6:51

no harm in the other lack of

6:53

making sure everything's okay It's

6:55

like she's not like she's like, oh now you're in a shrink for the rest of

6:58

your life I guess we go a couple

7:00

times We see what he thinks or she thinks and then

7:02

go from there and how many years that she have left

7:04

in school Three more years because

7:06

they go till they're 21 But

7:09

they don't have to go to the 21. I don't think so. There was a

7:11

part of me today That was like I'm pulling her out of school You

7:20

got a babysitter all day then she's

7:22

home all day and they're working and stuff. Yeah I

7:25

don't know actually get her a job Get

7:34

him now under First

7:44

experience with anybody who had down syndrome was Shanique Yeah,

7:46

and I remember seeing her I don't know if you

7:48

were there that day But the very first time I

7:50

saw her we were at the new park. It was

7:52

a concert Pretty sure you were

7:54

there and she was dancing and her eyes were rolled

7:56

up. Yeah, you know spinning in circles Yeah, that was

7:58

the first time I saw her never seen a

8:01

kid with, um, I go down, sweet kid

8:04

though, man, but she was awesome. But

8:07

like she would just go into

8:10

fantasy worlds and keep herself occupied.

8:12

You know, so I, when

8:14

you know, when you said Sage did that stuff, you

8:16

know, to me, that's like, Oh yeah, that probably is

8:19

how they, you know, how they play act

8:23

and stuff and go and

8:26

kill time. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I mean, what

8:28

else are you going to do? Like I sit

8:30

there watching TV, like a fucking zombie, at least

8:32

using her fucking imagination zombie thirsty again. Water

8:44

me. Yeah.

8:48

She, she was very, also very dramatic. She needs

8:50

like, Oh, I was a lifeguard and she was

8:52

constantly pretending to drown and having me have to

8:54

go out there and rest, quote unquote,

8:56

rescue her. Yeah. And Sage does

8:58

the same shit. Like she's dramatic.

9:00

Yeah. When you think back to it, very similar,

9:03

right? Yeah.

9:05

Tendencies and stuff. Shane Gillison

9:07

is last, uh, in his last comedy special, he has

9:09

a, I think a niece or something

9:11

that has Down syndrome. Oh, uncle. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

9:14

Yes. And they, uh, and he's

9:16

like, whenever somebody's like, Oh yeah, you know, your uncle has

9:18

Down syndrome. And I found this with Sage too, is people

9:20

be like, Oh, like almost like they're sorry for you and

9:22

it's just like, they'll be sorry for me.

9:24

And Shane Gillison says it for the best. He's just

9:26

like, they are consistently the happiest fucking people I've ever

9:28

seen in my life. Don't feel bad for them. It

9:31

was a funny bit. Yeah. It was a great bit.

9:34

I'm not doing it. Just like people are on like

9:36

Xanax they're on Capri sun. So

9:42

the, the big deal today, we mentioned overkill a

9:44

little bit earlier. We got a little bit of

9:46

a friendly competition going on. We

9:48

have a couple of guests in the studio

9:50

today. And hopefully they'll

9:52

be received a little bit better than Nelly.

9:54

Tom. Mm. Melages. Yeah.

9:57

Let's go with that. And now Tom. I

10:00

feel like you

10:02

kind of burst onto the scene and

10:04

tell them Steve Dave Towne, not a lot of

10:06

introduction on the regular show. That is

10:09

correct, yeah. Like a lot of people were like, who the hell is Tom? Like

10:12

you kind of like... Why are we listening to

10:14

him? You kind of like were thrust

10:18

upon the listeners on

10:20

the Patreon side of things. Yes, I agree

10:22

with that. So for those who are listening

10:24

today, who is Tom Milaszewski? Yep. I found

10:26

out last night that I... A different guy

10:28

from just a few seconds ago. I spelled

10:30

his name wrong on every check I've ever

10:32

given him. Yeah, but the bank has cashed

10:34

it every time. You haven't corrected that? You

10:36

haven't gotten to correct it? The bank has

10:38

cashed them, so we're good, yeah. The

10:41

bank keeps cashing them. Yeah. Well, tell... Six

10:43

years in, I'm not correcting them at

10:45

this point. Tell for those who don't

10:47

know who Tom Milaszewski is, who

10:50

is Tom? So I

10:52

helped write the All-New Sunday

10:55

Jeff Show and TES D&D,

10:58

and have helped them the last couple of

11:01

years with the Halloween specials, with dyslexia. So

11:03

a lot of behind the scenes games I've

11:05

helped you with. But how did you...

11:08

You were just a listener. I was just a listener.

11:11

And... You reached out to me and...

11:13

Yeah. When my daughter was born, I...

11:17

You asked me to be the Godfather. Yeah,

11:19

that was great. You turned me down? But

11:22

five years later, I got second prize. I

11:25

got to get him to be the Godfather of

11:27

my son. It worked out. That

11:30

can't be true. Well, we've got the

11:32

All-New Sunday Jeff Show. I get him

11:34

won the right to be his son's

11:37

Godfather. So if something

11:39

happens to you and your wife, your son

11:41

goes to get him? Yeah, yeah. Yes, that

11:43

is correct. I mean, he buys my kid's

11:45

presents, and he always asks. That I

11:47

believe he really does. He does take the responsibility.

11:50

He takes the Godfathering job seriously. Very sweet

11:52

guy. You brought your son boots, right? Yes, he

11:54

did. Yes. What's

11:57

that? Into the mic. Into the mic. I

11:59

can hear you cut. Yeah, I think Kim's giving me hand

12:01

signals over there. Like, where am I talking into, if

12:04

not the mic? Oh,

12:06

okay, I gotta look up right here, right? Disturbing

12:08

me the entire time. Anything we should know about you,

12:10

what are you into? What are

12:13

your hobbies, what moves- How'd you find

12:15

the show? How'd you find the show

12:17

originally? Originally, I actually, from IJ.

12:21

I wasn't a first time listener, so I found

12:23

it from Unpractical Jokers. And- That

12:25

doesn't make you feel good. I'm bringing in the fucking, the

12:28

big guy. I think quite a few people have come from

12:30

IJ. We've gotten quite an

12:32

audience from- Sure, but not a- Like

12:37

a- Critical member, yeah. A contributor. Yes,

12:39

yeah. Yeah, and yeah, after my daughter

12:41

was born, I

12:44

was very, very overweight, and I found-

12:46

It was. See you, Dave. Yeah,

12:48

it was. Yes. This is the

12:51

after picture. The before picture was

12:53

way different. And I

12:55

started listening to the podcast when I walked every day,

12:57

so I just caught up real quick. I

13:00

want to say it was like March of

13:03

2018. You know the

13:05

exact date. Don't try to fool anybody. No, no.

13:07

Here's why. I'm running out of birth street. I'm a birth

13:10

freak today. Here's why I know it. The reason I know

13:12

it is because I sent you a St. Patrick's Day game.

13:14

That's how I know what it was. And

13:16

you didn't that- you were like, oh, I'm

13:18

going to use it on a show. And then

13:21

you didn't because I think Kevin had

13:23

his heart attack right when that happened, when that

13:25

episode was supposed to come out. So

13:27

you contacted me like a month later, and you

13:29

were like, hey, we're getting started

13:31

on this Patreon. Do you want to start

13:33

coming up with some ideas? Because at that

13:35

point, I think I was helping with some

13:38

dyslexia and possibly the Halloween. So when Patreon

13:40

started, I started helping you out

13:42

with the all-new Sunday Jeff show. Like,

13:45

you didn't appear on mic right away.

13:48

Like then one time I invited you to come down. And

13:50

then- And Getom tried to ban me. Yeah.

13:53

Yeah. He said, hey,

13:55

Walt, this guy claims he's here to sit

13:57

in on the show. And

14:00

he was like security at the time. Love

14:02

that though, cause you got people trying to sneak in. Yeah.

14:05

And then, you know, you just started to

14:07

just show up and then you became a

14:09

full-time member of the, of the cast. Yes.

14:11

Yup. Showing that it can happen to

14:14

anybody. You never know. And what beefy

14:16

boys with a dream. So

14:20

we lack on this show, beefy boys with

14:22

a dream. Now

14:27

he's beloved. Now

14:31

he's here. That's

14:33

good enough. It's like, I'm probably like right to

14:36

get them status. Some love,

14:38

some hate more hate. And

14:41

we have also another

14:43

guest, Will Rogers. And now

14:46

will you've appeared on regular

14:48

TSD on the Halloween special from two years

14:50

ago? Yeah. It was the 2022 Halloween. So

14:54

one year ago. Yeah. Going on to,

14:56

yeah. Going on to. Yeah. Mm. And

14:59

how did you find the show? Long time

15:01

ago. So I was, uh, I

15:04

listened to Smodcast and when you guys would do the

15:06

show, they were so

15:09

goddamn funny. And so when I found out that you

15:11

were, What are the judges? Oh, you better, I'm here

15:13

to win. I

15:15

can't go home a loser. But so no,

15:17

I was, I was thrilled when you started your

15:19

own show because those were some of my favorite

15:22

episodes of Smodcast. And so I've been here since

15:24

day one. Wow. With

15:26

a ton of near misses throughout the years

15:28

too. I've made weird contact that you guys

15:30

probably don't even remember going way back to

15:32

the beginning. Like what? What do you

15:34

mean weird? So here's, I have a

15:36

whole, I took, no way, way back at

15:38

the stage. Sometimes

15:42

actually I do know where Walt lives. Your

15:45

mail. I realized I was like, this is risky. You put

15:47

a lot of faith in people. Oh,

15:49

and the listeners? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, a lot

15:52

of people say that you can't believe how many people

15:54

email them. You're like, I just got my Patreon gifts.

15:56

Dude, I don't know if you know this, but your address

15:58

is on the package. And I'm like, yeah, I know. I

16:00

couldn't fucking figure out how to take the address off and

16:02

they wouldn't accept the mail so I was like, you know

16:04

what? I'm gonna have to fucking roll the dice. I want

16:06

the ants to be good people because... It'd

16:09

be cool. Yeah, cool ants.

16:13

A million years ago you used to tweet

16:15

when you would record the stash and you

16:17

used to let people come in and sit

16:19

in when you were recording. Yeah. So I

16:21

actually... I remember you

16:23

told me this is funny. So

16:26

I saw you tweet that you were gonna record and so I

16:28

hit you and I was like, hey, are you letting people drop

16:30

in? I'd love to stop by. And you said, yeah. So

16:33

I told my sister I couldn't go to her birthday party and I

16:35

started driving down to the stash. This is funny. And

16:38

I came in and you were all at

16:40

the background at the poker table and I sat

16:44

down and you asked me my name. And

16:46

then very abruptly you went, now we have to talk business

16:48

so can you go sit and serve taco for a while?

16:51

So I went over to serve taco and I

16:54

was just waiting. I was nervous, I had those

16:56

butterflies, you know. And like

16:58

20 minutes went by, 45 minutes went by. And

17:02

then I was like, I don't know what's going on. So I

17:04

went and I peeked my head over at the stash and the

17:06

lights were off and the door was locked. You

17:10

got the Jimmy the Hair Guy treatment. And

17:12

I was like, well, I guess

17:14

I'm done here. I think what happened, I think

17:17

we... I think

17:19

that was after Sandy and I think

17:21

we had a very like... We

17:24

had a lot to discuss that night and we decided

17:26

to go across the street to eat

17:29

and we forgot about it. And then we just... A

17:31

week? All three of us

17:33

went all across the street to eat and talk

17:36

business and we

17:38

never went back to record. We decided we weren't even going

17:40

to record that night. Okay. And we

17:42

just went home and we forgot that Will was over

17:44

there waiting. How did

17:47

that feel? You know,

17:50

that's a long drive home. Yeah. Now

17:53

I got to... I think I made the second half

17:55

of my sister's birthday. Oh, that's good. It was okay. Right.

17:57

But I never forgave you guys. here

18:00

today and I'll be like, fuck those guys. There's

18:02

more. Fuck them forever. There's more. Oh, we

18:04

do want more? We could do even more.

18:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Oh yeah.

18:08

Tom, we hardly dissed you, man. This is coming

18:10

out of the left field. You just called

18:12

me fat like five minutes ago. That's, yeah.

18:15

Like little brother. Oh, okay. All

18:17

right, how about this one? So a few years

18:20

ago, you're doing What Say You? Yeah. And

18:22

you and Sal said, hey, we're gonna be at the

18:24

stress factory. Dom Herrera's doing a show. Yeah. People

18:27

are coming by, I think you guys said you were gonna be by, not

18:29

you all. But so my

18:31

wife and I went and I saw you and

18:34

I talked to you for, I don't know, a handful of

18:36

minutes. I was talking about how I'd

18:38

done standup a couple of times, like open mic night

18:40

standup. And I was in the middle

18:42

of telling you a story about some guy who

18:44

I'd seen recently who got on stage and just

18:46

had a therapy session, started crying about like, he

18:48

basically went from like, hi, my name's Tim to

18:50

like, my brother's the tough guy

18:52

in the family. And you know, he knocks me

18:54

around. And I was like, it's like, this

18:56

guy treated standup like

18:59

his own therapy. And I was like, he was just drunk. And

19:01

then you walked up to you. And

19:04

you go, what's going on? And Brian says,

19:06

he's telling me about some drunk guy on stage,

19:08

like, you know, made everyone uncomfortable. And

19:11

then you. Not you, not

19:13

you. No, then you looked over at me

19:15

quickly and he went, well, maybe you shouldn't have been such

19:17

a drunk fucking asshole. And then you went,

19:19

come on, Brian, let's get out of here. And

19:21

I ended up just standing there and I was like, what was

19:23

my point? I was like, what happened? I

19:26

was not the drunk asshole. I

19:28

guess you thought that he was talking about himself.

19:30

I think you misunderstood what was going on. And

19:32

I was like, this all did not

19:34

go according to plan. Two down, that's two. Yeah,

19:37

all right, so how about another one? Yeah, all

19:39

right. There's another one? Yeah, there's another one.

19:42

Okay. All right. How many times have you left

19:44

at the altar before you take the hit, Will? I

19:47

never give up. So

19:49

this actually technically, this wasn't you guys. Well,

19:51

it's sort of you guys. So

19:54

I've been doing podcasts for about a decade. And

19:57

way back in the early smogcast days,

19:59

they would. let you buy ads on any

20:01

of the shows. So I spent

20:04

like 300 bucks trying to get an

20:06

ad on Tell them Steve Davis because you guys

20:08

started doing ads, but I didn't find out until

20:10

way later you didn't want to do ads for

20:12

other podcasts. So they kept going to Ming. They

20:18

wouldn't tell me and then all of a sudden

20:20

it'd be like Ming was doing another ad. At

20:22

the time I was doing a show with my

20:24

writing partner, it was called Will and Bobby Know

20:26

Everything. Don't do it anymore, but the name is

20:29

relevant. So they do one ad. They thought this

20:31

would be Mike and Ming. It was Mike and

20:33

Ming. Because it was on whatever, I guess I

20:35

sell comics I guess. I don't know. Or

20:38

this morning show. This morning show. Stop

20:41

pounding me on the table. Oh, I'm hitting the table. I do that a lot.

20:44

So they did one ad for Will and

20:46

Bobby Know Everything and then a month later

20:48

I was like, can you please send this ad to Tell

20:50

them Steve Dave? And they never responded to me and it

20:52

went to Ming again. And so they were

20:54

like, your ad's going to be on this episode of

20:57

Ming's show. So I tuned in and Mike starts to

20:59

transition to the ad and he goes, looks like we've

21:01

got another ad here for something

21:03

called Will and Bobby Know

21:06

Everything. And Ming interrupts and goes,

21:08

yeah, they know everything. They know about how to get

21:10

a free ad read. We already did this one and

21:13

they just move on. They didn't do the spot.

21:17

You paid for it? I paid for it. Oh,

21:19

God. I've been

21:21

trying to make contact for years and

21:23

I finally got my foot in the

21:25

door and I think that same month

21:28

Jimmy the hair guy appeared. And

21:30

he completely, I love Jimmy but

21:32

he completely overshadowed any shot I

21:34

had in the spotlight. So I'm

21:36

here to win. Wow. I

21:38

appreciate you, Tom, but I am here to destroy

21:40

you. So what you're

21:42

talking about, Will, is that Will

21:45

has sent me a multitude of ideas as well

21:48

as Tom has and one of the ideas he

21:50

sent in to me was he wanted to come

21:52

on Tom Steve Dave and be

21:55

the overkill guy where he would bring overkill

21:57

stories to the table that then we could

21:59

discuss. He's, I

22:01

guess he has got a passion for the weird, but

22:04

Tom also sent me the same

22:06

idea, and I felt like, well, who

22:09

do I, you know, who do I give

22:11

this coveted role

22:14

to, you know, to come in like once or

22:16

twice, you know, every

22:18

couple months and do an overkill episode with us.

22:21

So I thought, is that a Blair Witch

22:23

pin you have going on there? Yes. Okay,

22:25

so he's into the heart. I'm wearing the

22:27

overkill shirt from you guys right now. They're

22:29

trying, they're both trying. They came

22:32

dressed to impress. I actually

22:34

contributed to the Blair Witch franchise. Did

22:36

you? Tell me not the second one. No, not

22:38

the second one. I wish I contributed to the

22:41

second one. That was, what a wonderful catastrophe. No,

22:44

I worked on a game in the universe.

22:46

I'm technically a character in the franchise because

22:48

of that. Really? Writer,

22:50

media producer, yeah. He's

22:52

got a pedigree. He also

22:54

has, you know, he also has a

22:56

radio voice, and

22:59

Tom does not. So like

23:01

if you're like, Will

23:03

is to Tom as like Rod Serling as

23:05

like Pee-Wee Herman. So like,

23:07

wow! So when you're

23:10

going to be bringing the really weird

23:12

stories, you want to have that voice

23:14

to make it even weirder. I'm the

23:16

ghost of Pee-Wee. It's

23:18

me, Tom. You're

23:20

a hoax. Is

23:23

there any way you can work on your voice a little bit, Kevin?

23:25

A little bit more baritone. A little bit spookier. A little bit deeper.

23:28

More like Rod Serling. You

23:30

want me to go deeper than this? Just sounds like his voice,

23:32

but not deeper. Yeah. I got to

23:34

like really go down low. Hello.

23:36

Yeah, there you go. Hello, Mr. Johnson. Yeah,

23:39

there you go. I couldn't possibly talk like

23:41

this. I know. Wow.

23:45

So what makes you want to be Tom? What makes

23:47

you want to be the overkill guy? What is

23:49

it? Because you have so many duties and responsibilities

23:51

otherwise. Is it the prestige? Or

23:53

is it the love of the being out there? Well, he

23:55

has a Sunday Jeff show. Okay, yeah, yeah. He's got

23:58

the... Well, yeah. but

24:00

i don't know about that and i

24:02

think they wanted to help you make people are not

24:05

crazy for a great well

24:07

that i would have a lot of it by

24:09

fault of the uh... on the reason why most

24:12

people like to argument to

24:14

argument that uh... that there

24:16

were no other way but i've been slighted uh...

24:19

i was invited last year to be on

24:21

to you know it's difficult now that i

24:23

think it is just a point that i

24:25

was in my uh... the question of the

24:27

invitation was extended and then retracted and

24:29

i don't know why so at only

24:31

because we've kind of like you know slow down

24:33

the production of that show just added to the

24:35

pilot we're

24:37

looking for a mid-season replacement for it uh...

24:42

but to your point yes i uh... i'm

24:45

into the weird the uh... the cryptids

24:47

uh... different

24:49

religious mythologies throughout history we can spell

24:52

out a poser so don't worry about

24:54

that i

24:57

think that that nature so i'm

24:59

very much into those conspiracies everything

25:01

like that so

25:04

we might reason for one of the overkill

25:06

guy okay you're super into it yes well

25:10

you will i mean there are so

25:12

many ways you can say same now

25:14

but you know my entire life

25:16

i've been obsessed with the paranormal and

25:18

horror specifically uh... i actually do show

25:21

called guide to the unknown uh...

25:24

to podcast all about horror movies urban legendry spotting

25:26

the what do you know what i want to

25:28

know what i think i know i don't know

25:30

i don't think i can't read about the spot

25:33

i don't know me as far as i'm concerned guide

25:37

to the unknown scary fun

25:39

dot fun has my website no

25:42

i i'm obsessed with the part of the top

25:44

one is a thing is a distinction scary fun.com

25:46

with like eight thousand dollars and scary fun dot

25:48

fun made me laugh uh...

25:51

so we have been doing a show all about horror

25:54

every single week for six

25:56

years yeah i

25:58

know it's it's a topic that never

26:00

gets tired to me. Even the stuff

26:02

that I'm not particularly a fan of. Do

26:04

you make money off that show? I do. Oh,

26:07

so he's a professional, guys. Yeah, actually. Well,

26:09

Tom makes money. I mean, I make

26:11

money off you guys. But no, but

26:14

he did the horror, specifically the horror,

26:16

cryptid weirdo, biz newfield. That's a professional.

26:18

Actually, we just signed with Bloody Disgusting's

26:20

podcast network, Bloody FM. Yeah. Just spoke.

26:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Tom

26:25

always, you know, I think he likes to

26:27

play the role, you know, the underdog role.

26:29

He thrives as the underdog. Just sub. That's

26:32

right. I don't think he's the

26:34

underdog in this situation because he

26:36

has a presence already. He's

26:39

on shows. He runs shows.

26:41

He's just trying to make sure no one else could eat. Is

26:46

he the underdog? I've got nine other podcasts.

26:48

He's even just on the television. Dave? I'll

26:51

go. Yeah, one other podcast. Thank

26:53

you. So

26:55

how are we going to handle this? We have you

26:57

guys brought in stories. How

26:59

many stories did I ask you guys to bring in? You

27:01

told us nothing. That's

27:03

right. That's right. I did it on

27:05

purpose. Let's see what you did. Yeah.

27:10

Before we even get into that, let me

27:13

just read this very quickly because

27:15

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27:17

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27:20

wife has a couple bowls coming in weekly. And...

27:24

A bowl? Yeah. A weekly?

27:26

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27:28

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right Spookiness

29:17

scariness This is something

29:19

close to all our hearts me you and yeah

29:21

me you and Walt we've loved horror

29:23

since we were kids Yeah,

29:25

yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I find myself as I get older though

29:27

I don't know like if I want to be as scared

29:30

as much as I used to when I was younger You

29:33

know, I find slasher shit. I'm not nearly

29:35

as into yeah as when I was younger

29:38

Mm-hmm, and I think I may have even said this before

29:40

I think I read somewhere It has to do with mortality

29:42

where like the older you get the more you realize like

29:44

I could die You're

29:46

not even thinking of that shit. Hmm. What

29:48

do you want to go first? Uh, I

29:51

don't know. Let's flip a coin Yeah, the

29:53

old coin flowed coin flip. So you don't like

29:55

the do you see the terror flyer terrifier movies?

29:58

I did see the terror fire movies I enjoyed the

30:00

first one, the second one I was like, why

30:02

the fuck is this so long? Yeah. It's

30:05

like two and a half hours or something. It was way too

30:07

long. And no titties! There

30:09

had to be titties in the second one. No titties in the

30:11

second one. Don't tell me there were no titties in the second

30:13

one. The girl who's the starlet in that is

30:16

an active advocate for no titties

30:18

in horror movies. Really? She

30:21

wants it to go the way of the dodo. Well, I mean, that's

30:23

a fun choice for her to make. Why don't you gotta put it

30:25

on? I don't know, she has to ruin everybody else's fun. If she

30:27

were like, look, I don't want sex scenes in movies, I'd

30:29

be okay with that. Because I find sex scenes to be

30:31

really boring. Yeah. Unless they're showing titties.

30:34

What is up with that? I wonder that's

30:36

curious. I don't know. Like they're a bad thing, aren't

30:38

they? I thought there was one thing that

30:41

all of humanity can dream upon.

30:43

Yeah. Just a

30:45

wonderful thing. Yeah, I forget her name, but I'm

30:48

no fan of hers. All right. Anybody who's anti-titties is

30:50

not for me. Well, anytime I think of Slasher movie,

30:53

like Modern Day, that's kind of where I'm at. Tom,

30:56

call the heads of town. Heads. Tails.

30:59

Oh, there you go. So I've already won.

31:01

There you go. So we'll run. I'll just

31:04

go. Yeah. So I

31:07

actually prepped a number of- Well, are we gonna do

31:09

the music? I wish we could leave some for

31:11

the overkill theme. Do you wanna throw

31:13

it in right now? Yeah, we'll put a little

31:15

bit of, we'll put it in the bed, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

31:19

I wanna make sure we do this right, you know.

31:21

There was actually a thread on Reddit where

31:24

somebody was talking about how they wanted

31:26

more overkill. And I commented and

31:28

I said, I love overkill. I love the paranormal,

31:30

I'm into it. And they said, well, actually,

31:34

you can talk to Walt and just ask him to do it, right?

31:36

It's like, it's not that easy. But I decided to

31:39

throw a Hail Mary. So knowing

31:41

the Patreon format, like every month there's a new

31:43

type of show, I wrote out

31:45

a list of a whole year's worth of overkill.

31:48

See you later, Tom. Wow. That

31:52

doesn't mean the stories are up to snuff though.

31:54

That's true, yeah. They might be basic. They

31:57

might just be like, kind of like, we

31:59

might find them. You know, there's not much meat on those

32:01

bones, some of those stories he brings. That's

32:03

definitely a risk. Let's see what happens. You gotta play

32:05

to all three of us and our interests.

32:08

Yeah, you know we ain't pedestrians here. I know.

32:10

So actually here, I know that some of

32:12

the reason that, and you tell me if I'm

32:14

off base, I think some of the reason that

32:16

Overkill, maybe you guys, started to fade on doing

32:19

it all the time, is there wasn't a

32:21

good consensus on what Overkill was supposed to be.

32:23

Is it exclusively Tales of the Paranormal? Is there

32:25

true crime involved? What are we working with here?

32:28

Am I a part of the episode? Because I'm

32:30

the serial killers in true crime. I

32:32

have yet to get the format. That's why Walt never put me in charge

32:34

of it. I'm trying to figure it

32:36

out. Well, so some of what I tried to

32:38

do, I tried to block out my year of

32:41

programming, to give a decent amount

32:43

of variety, to sometimes hit some

32:45

of those topics, Brian, like those true

32:47

crimey elements, sometimes lean heavily into the

32:49

paranormal. I wanted to hit all four

32:51

corners of the demographic. Jesus Christ, man.

32:53

What do they call them in the

32:55

industry? Like four wall? Four wall. Four

32:58

wall. It's going to appeal to everybody. Four quadrant. Four

33:00

quadrant. Four quadrant, yeah. Pretend I said

33:03

that. Yeah. Sounds pretty good.

33:05

Have you ever had your IQ measured? No,

33:08

I have not, and I don't want to. All right,

33:10

no, because I know that Tom knows, right? You

33:12

know your IQ? Yeah. Has

33:15

this ever come out? Oh, is he

33:17

a boy genius? Like 148? Well,

33:20

he doesn't think that Gidam

33:22

is being... Oh, he thinks

33:24

he's not legit? Yeah, I think he's a lit 148 because

33:26

he's in the 140. He's

33:29

a 140, so yeah, I don't think I think he's

33:31

a... All these brains running around, huh? Making us look

33:33

dumb. Well, they're coming at us for jobs, so... Don't

33:36

worry about it. What does

33:39

that tell you about life?

33:42

On all kids' side, though, I think Tom might

33:45

be... When

33:47

push comes to shove, he might be the smartest

33:49

person in TSD Town. Tom? Yeah,

33:51

I really do. Will you get him? Will you

33:53

get him? She's getting rid of

33:55

me! I find that, you know, that

33:57

like... He

34:00

is pretty knowledgeable on an

34:02

amazing amount

34:05

of topics. It's not just one thing.

34:08

How is he to talk to? It's easy. Easy.

34:10

Yeah, it's easy. How often, how many times

34:12

a day does he frustrate you? Tom?

34:15

Well, you know what? He's not around as much

34:17

as Gidam, because he plays in his favor if

34:20

you're going to talk about the annoyance factor. Sure.

34:23

But also, if you read body language,

34:25

I understand when you're like, this is

34:28

a good time to talk to Walt.

34:30

Let's leave him alone. Yeah, you understand Star Trek.

34:32

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Good.

34:35

All good qualities. Sorry, Will. Go

34:37

ahead. No, no, that's fine. So I

34:39

actually, you know, I prepped a decent amount of generalized,

34:42

like, bucket topics, but I did sort

34:45

of highlight the three that I think are particularly

34:47

fun. Do you want to hear those? Sure.

34:50

We'll go with your first one, your first story. I got to

34:52

go alternate stories. I don't want to, I

34:54

don't want to, we want you to guide this, right? We don't want

34:56

to... Yeah, fair enough. We don't want to weigh in yet. Okay.

34:59

Sure thing. So let's talk about

35:01

urban legends. Urban legends,

35:03

I think everybody is familiar with at least one

35:06

that stands out in their memory. What

35:08

are the ones that spring to mind? Well,

35:10

can't even use a motion picture. I

35:13

wouldn't call that an urban legend. That

35:16

was a studio. I

35:18

thought it was based on something there. I thought it

35:20

was based on a movie. I'll go to our expert.

35:24

Well, Cropsey is certainly qualified

35:27

as an urban legend to speak to you. But

35:29

he was real though. Yeah, but what grew out

35:31

of it, you know, was

35:34

he became like a supernatural, like you go

35:36

in the woods, murder type thing. But

35:39

I guess I hear you saying, I understand

35:41

that. So you're saying urban legend not based

35:43

on something. I think urban legend is like...

35:45

Alligators in the sewers. Yeah. But

35:47

everything has a point in the front. And Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary,

35:49

I was going to say. So there technically

35:51

is an actual definition

35:53

to the term urban legend. This was a

35:56

term that was coined by, you know, professors

35:58

in say the fifth... The entire

36:01

point of the term urban legend was

36:03

to differentiate from old world folklore. You

36:05

think of like a troll living under

36:07

a bridge or, you know, somebody

36:09

living in a swamp. Yeah. Or posting

36:11

on Reddit. Yeah, posting on Reddit. Well,

36:13

what this guy, Jan Harold Brunvand, had

36:15

started to notice is that all of

36:18

a sudden he was hearing his students

36:20

tell stories that were distinctly modern tales

36:22

that had no discernible point of origin.

36:24

If you go out on Lovers Lane,

36:26

that guy with the hook hand might

36:28

try to grab onto your door handle.

36:31

Well, this was folklore no different from

36:33

hearing about a witch, you know, living out in

36:35

the woods, except for the fact that it was modern

36:38

storytelling. So the term urban legend

36:40

was never about being in an

36:42

urban or rural society. It

36:44

was just supposed to be urban stuff

36:46

is new. These legends are

36:49

new. Urban legends.

36:51

And so. Like Slender Man.

36:54

Yeah. He would be a

36:56

new one. Super new. Yeah, absolutely. Slender Man

36:58

is, I think, Slender Man is a

37:00

really fun, interesting case because

37:02

that's also like purely internet stuff.

37:05

Right. You know, I think that's probably

37:07

the next dividing line. Creepypasta? Was that

37:09

still around? Oh yeah. Creepypasta, yeah. They've

37:12

actually now, creepypastas have largely become so

37:14

sort of like popular and nothing's

37:16

mainstream anymore. You know, everybody gets their own

37:18

sort of corner of the internet. But

37:21

in the creepypasta corner of the internet, there

37:23

are people that deliberately try to write quote

37:25

unquote, creepy pastas to try to make an

37:27

impact. And it never hits the

37:29

same as on the internet 15 years ago. I

37:32

don't know what creepypasta is. It's

37:34

a website that has tons of like urban

37:36

legend type stuff. A lot of our user

37:38

inspired that they write in. I see. Okay.

37:42

Yeah. And a lot of them came from like fan fiction? No. So,

37:45

creepy pastas, why it's even called creepypasta

37:48

is it's a goofy term. So

37:50

anytime that somebody would copy and paste something on

37:52

the internet, like, you know, there's

37:54

a famous story about a famous person, almost like chainmail,

37:56

copy and send, copy and send, post it all over

37:59

the place. refer to that as copy

38:01

pastas. Okay. Then it started happening

38:03

with scary stories. Creepy pastas. Creepy pastas. But

38:05

so you would get these like really minute

38:08

stories. One of my favorite ones is called

38:10

the subway ride where it's

38:12

a woman is going home at night

38:14

after work in New York City and

38:16

she's on the subway alone and then

38:18

three people get on. Two guys dragging

38:21

like a super drunk woman like her

38:23

head is lolling around and

38:25

these two guys sit on a bench with

38:27

that really drunk lady between them and they're

38:29

just staring at the lone woman on the

38:31

subway. They get to the next stop

38:33

and a man gets on and he's

38:35

staring at this woman too and she's thinking

38:38

like how much danger am I in? And

38:40

then this single stranger walks over and goes

38:42

get off with me at the next stop.

38:45

She feels so threatened by everyone but doesn't know what to

38:47

do. So finally at the next

38:49

stop she does escape with this new guy and

38:51

he goes I'm sorry if I scared

38:53

you but I'm a doctor. That

38:56

woman sitting between the two guys was

38:58

dead and they were propping her up

39:00

and I didn't know what they would

39:02

do to you. It's a little urban

39:04

legend right? It's a story with a beginning

39:07

middle and end. You can almost imagine it

39:09

as like some short anthology standalone story but

39:11

people start copying it sharing it all the time.

39:14

Creepypasta goes all around. Was there no twist to

39:16

that though? Like I thought the guy who got

39:18

her off the train was going to murder her

39:20

then. I know you would almost

39:22

think that it starts to set up for the double

39:24

version but that's where it's like you

39:26

know in early internet you can't tell did

39:29

this ever happen? Is there any kernel of

39:31

truth to this whatsoever? Is this your first

39:33

is this their first story? No

39:36

that was just a Creepypasta exam. You know. It

39:38

was just taking a little long to

39:40

get there. All right I apologize. I apologize. Yeah I have

39:42

a tendency to go all right. Feeling a

39:44

little family circus Billy action going on here. The

39:49

cutest route to overkill. Yeah I don't know.

39:51

Some creepy pauses. What am I supposed to

39:53

do? All right

39:55

how about the the babysitter and the man

39:57

upstairs? This is probably the urban legend. calls

40:00

coming from inside the house. A call is coming

40:02

from inside the house. I think everybody knows this

40:04

story. What a stranger. Yeah, we just watched that

40:06

movie. Oh, did you? Yeah, I mean, again, it

40:08

was on Pluto. Remember, I remember the calls coming from inside the house?

40:11

Carol Kane. Yeah, it also happened

40:13

in Black Christmas, didn't it? Black

40:16

Christmas, yep, that's another great example. I think the

40:18

Black Christmas movie actually might come out before. It

40:21

was like 74, I think. I think so. Yeah,

40:24

an early slasher. And I think the other

40:26

one was 76 or 77 when

40:29

a stranger calls from me. Yeah, that's later. Even

40:31

later? It was the 80s. Oh, that's 80s? Because

40:34

I lived in Highlands, I saw you. Oh, that's right. I

40:36

saw you in Red Bank. Yeah.

40:38

So one of the reasons that I think the

40:40

babysitter and the man upstairs is

40:43

so impactful is, and

40:46

it's a good example of why

40:48

I think urban legends are so

40:50

popular and why horror is so

40:52

meaningful to so many people, is

40:54

I started researching the story of the babysitter and the

40:56

man upstairs. And I found out that it's based on

40:58

an actual real-life case. There

41:00

was a young girl named Janet Christman,

41:03

who was babysitting and supposedly was

41:06

receiving threatening phone calls, called

41:08

for the police to try to call for

41:10

help, and then the line goes dead. Later

41:14

she's found dead. And it

41:16

struck me, and I don't know what you guys think about everything

41:19

that I'm telling you right now, but it

41:21

occurred to me when I was thinking about why

41:23

this story, why would this story become the one

41:25

that everybody knows, the phone calls coming from inside

41:28

the house? Because somebody added that

41:31

detail later. We tell each other stories where

41:33

social creatures, details get added in the telling,

41:35

and I realized that it's about the phone.

41:38

It was one of the first times that people had phones

41:40

in their home. This Janet Christman story is from the 50s.

41:43

And so we were getting to a point where it was so

41:46

common to have a phone in your home, but uncommon to have

41:48

two lines in your home. And

41:50

I think that people started to almost take

41:52

in this new technology that was in

41:54

your house and say,

41:56

hey, what's the scariest possible thing that can happen

41:58

if you've got two phones your house. People

42:00

are always afraid of technology. People are afraid of

42:02

society advancing in any way. And

42:04

so I think this story really hit onto some sort of

42:06

like a primal fear of like progress.

42:09

It used to be if somebody called you, the

42:11

one thing you know for sure is that they're not

42:13

in your house. They're somewhere

42:16

else. And now all

42:18

of a sudden they could be in your home. And I think that's

42:20

also why scream in the 90s cell

42:22

phones. The one thing you

42:24

thought you knew is if somebody's calling you, they're

42:27

tethered by a wire. Well, shit,

42:29

not with cell phones. They could be right behind you. What

42:32

do you think? Well, you don't like that? I

42:34

don't know. I think you have an opportunity to knock

42:37

our socks off and you

42:40

bring phone horror. Oh,

42:42

phone horror. We already know. Yeah. Like

42:44

can you imagine a world where you

42:46

had two lines in a home? Like

42:48

I don't know. I

42:51

don't know if that was weirding me out. I don't know. You

42:54

like the 50s. I don't know if that's given me the goosebumps

42:56

that I thought, you know, I was going to get it tonight,

42:58

you know. Yeah. Fair enough. Listen,

43:00

I can only do what I do. It seems

43:02

a little, if I was to critique it. I

43:04

do like the backstory though. I never

43:06

knew that was the actual origin of the

43:08

story. It's

43:11

not scary because all you're doing is explaining history

43:13

in a story we already know. I

43:16

think you need sensational headlines,

43:18

man. Some red meat

43:20

to flop on the table for everybody to

43:22

oo and aww with. You're doing a little

43:24

bit of a history thing here. You know,

43:27

I think you got to go for shock value,

43:29

bud. You know, give everybody something to wait

43:31

to. Okay. If he's got another

43:33

story. Yeah, sure. I'll try again in a few

43:35

years. What

43:41

do you think, Brian? I like the

43:43

backstory, but I did not expect you to lead off

43:45

with a story that was so familiar to all of

43:47

us. Like I thought you were going to

43:49

come with something like, hey, here's, this is the problem I have

43:51

with overkill is like, I go and look stuff up and I'm

43:53

like, all this shit is either so

43:55

fucking corny that I can't even bring it to the table

43:57

or like, like we're already aware of it.

44:00

You know, it's hard to find new gripping

44:03

stuff in the paranormal, I feel.

44:05

Oh, I think there's plenty. Yeah?

44:08

Yeah, I think there's plenty of shit that, you

44:10

know, the dark web exists. I don't know. Will,

44:13

I don't know if you thought about going

44:15

on the dark web for tonight and gathering

44:18

some stories, but if you didn't, I know my man Tom

44:20

probably did, right? I know my

44:22

audience. Dark web. Got it. One

44:25

of my other folks told me how to get onto

44:27

the dark web. It's not like darkweb.com, right? You don't

44:29

have a special computer? I

44:31

don't think so. I think you just need a special

44:33

server. You need a computer that you could destroy at

44:36

a moment's notice, like a second computer. Like a Google

44:38

account. Like a Google account. Or Google account. Yeah, yeah.

44:40

It's a cool browser. It's one of my other bolded

44:42

topics that I didn't bring. I went for a story

44:45

from the 50s that you all know. What was I

44:47

thinking? My other bolded topic was Tales of

44:49

the Dark Web. Oh, nice. Yeah. Is

44:51

that your second story? No, it was just one

44:53

of the other ones that I thought was... With

44:57

zero guidance, I didn't come with a story that I

44:59

thought was going to knock all your stuff. Well, which

45:01

one of your favorite overkill

45:03

topics? Uh,

45:05

wow. I got to tell you,

45:08

I never understood... I'm still not

45:10

sure where everything shook out with that Prussian kissing

45:12

devil. If I'm being perfectly honest. It's right there.

45:14

It's right there. You can look at it. You

45:16

can touch it. You can donate money to it.

45:19

You can find out. Don't you understand? Well,

45:22

my money is actually in there. Did you donate to

45:24

it ever? I did. When it worked

45:26

on the scene. Yeah,

45:29

he got his foot in the door. Yeah,

45:31

you're right. It's the $5. All my wishes

45:33

came through. No,

45:36

I was always fascinated, but I loved the idea that you

45:39

guys would start to get into, like, let's bring something

45:41

in that was tangible. Yeah, a crumpy kind of just

45:44

fucking derailed it. We tried to turn Prussian kissing

45:46

devil into slender man. Didn't happen.

45:48

Didn't take... Do I get extra

45:51

points because I actually did bring something

45:53

in to my... Oh, yes. You get points taken

45:55

away if you don't talk into the mic. I was talking to the

45:57

mic. No, you were looking at Will Rogers. Oh, fine. Are

46:00

we done with Will's first? We're

46:03

not going back and forth. Well, what's to talk

46:05

about, really? Again, that's the whole thing.

46:07

I'm bringing up what to talk about. We

46:09

were dependent upon a man, our overkill

46:11

guy, to bring stories. And

46:14

his first story, we're like, what are we

46:16

talking about? He's like, heard it? That's okay.

46:18

He's calibrating, man. He's calibrating. Let him calibrate.

46:20

He's got three shots out. In

46:24

my defense, may I just say, I feel like

46:26

the typical tell-em-Steve-Dave fashion is to bring something to

46:28

the table. It gets devoured and ripped apart. And

46:32

then you try to reassemble some of the pieces. Let

46:34

me get him over here shaking his head.

46:37

We've all been there, man. We've

46:39

all been there, man. Any of the times we ripped Peter Shreds.

46:44

Nothing. Okay. Nothing on it to do with

46:46

phones in the house. Well, what's... I

46:49

mean, we know the story. I know. Yeah. And

46:52

it's not really like... I guess you could be like, well, what

46:54

would you do if you were in that situation? Yeah.

46:57

If you got a phone call. We

46:59

all still... Some prank calls. Yeah. Well,

47:02

that's why this segment was less... I

47:04

guess what I was envisioning was less specifically about that

47:06

case. I was more curious about your interest in urban

47:08

legends, if there are other stories. Okay. In your head,

47:10

where did you think the conversation would go? What

47:13

did you think we would tag

47:16

up on that story? I was going to

47:18

provide one that I liked that I thought I had a little

47:20

bit of research on on the back end. And

47:22

then, Sarah, there are any urban legends that... like, every

47:24

one of my topics is like a bucket of

47:26

a concept. So that episode would not be about

47:28

the babysitter and the man upstairs. It would be

47:30

about urban legends. Maybe

47:32

several of which have turned out to have

47:34

some foot in truth. And hopefully,

47:37

it might ping in the three of you,

47:39

some familiarity with urban legends, maybe

47:41

a fondness for them, a particular urban legend that

47:43

you like, that jumps to mind. I feel

47:45

like the best presentation is like when Walt

47:47

drags something out and presents it as truth.

47:50

And it defends it to be true. knows

48:00

why. I want to ask you guys what

48:02

do you think it could be? Yeah,

48:04

that is a little layer of mystery and

48:06

speculation. We could play

48:08

some examples of a conversation on an audio podcast.

48:11

One of my favorite overkill is the recording in Hell

48:13

that you brought over, right? That's unexplained.

48:18

Could be anything. Exercises.

48:21

A lot of untakes, yeah. All

48:23

right, we got it. We got it. The man's calibrating. All

48:27

right, Tom. Okay, so

48:30

I've decided to go the other way with mine. I've

48:33

learned over the years, you guys get

48:35

distracted very easily, you

48:37

get bored, so I want to hit what

48:40

I've decided are the six pillars

48:43

of the supernatural world. So

48:45

each episode that I'm brought in, I will

48:47

have a story about each

48:49

one, and each story will spend about

48:51

six minutes on. Well, now, all right,

48:54

right away, my main concern with you is length.

48:56

That's why I said six minutes. You do. You

48:58

tend to break things out. I've

49:01

taken that advice. Now

49:04

we're doing six minutes, six stories. And that's why

49:06

I've taken your advice. And we've

49:08

limited it. We're going to do quick cuts. So

49:11

with that being said... I like six

49:13

pillars. Six pillars of the

49:15

paranormal. That sounds like a show I'd watch. Yeah,

49:17

I love that name. Six pillars of the paranormal.

49:19

A little mythology going on. So my pillars

49:22

are extraterrestrial phenomenons.

49:24

Aliens. That's a

49:26

solid pillar. Secret societies. Great.

49:30

Mythical entities and cryptid creatures.

49:33

Oof. Psychic abilities

49:35

and spiritual manifestations. That's all

49:37

hauntings, ghosts, demons, government

49:40

conspiracies. Oh, classic. And

49:42

time travel. Time travel. Oh, my

49:45

favorite type of travel. I

49:52

didn't hear anything about true crime in there, so I'm just going to

49:54

make it right. I did not. Only six

49:56

pillars. That is correct, yes. And I

49:58

did not feel that that's... fell into

50:00

the overkill category of how I wanted

50:03

to lead my show. All right. My

50:05

show. My second show. What

50:08

do you feel

50:10

is the most important pillar? I

50:13

don't think there is a most important pillar.

50:15

You have to pick one. Well, I don't.

50:17

No, I don't. You have to pick one.

50:19

So I feel, OK, I feel that each

50:21

one has different, each time, will

50:23

have some strengths and negatives

50:25

going into it. If I had to pick one,

50:28

I'm going to say Secret Societies. OK.

50:30

OK. Just curious. I'm just trying to get a feel

50:32

for the type of show you would create. But

50:35

each one is dedicated to do the best for

50:37

each one. But some of you guys may not

50:40

like. But out of the six, I feel there's

50:42

talking points going in. Can I give you an

50:44

example of my first one for talking points? Sure.

50:46

All right. I'm going to do Secret

50:48

Societies. Have you guys ever

50:50

heard of the Explorers Club? I

50:53

have not. No. It was

50:55

founded in New York City in 1904. It's

50:59

for the meeting of explorers and scientists

51:01

alike. Their goal

51:03

is to plant their flag around

51:05

the world in the most obscure places

51:07

possible, such as the moon, Mariana

51:10

Trench, and Mount Everest. Those

51:13

are their goals. Yes. And they've done them. They've

51:16

already got one on the moon. Yes. How? And

51:18

the Mariana Trench. Some of their famous members. Where's

51:20

the Mariana Trench? It's the deepest part of the

51:23

ocean. That's pretty easy. You just float over it

51:25

and tie it to a rocket and drop it

51:27

down. So some of their members. A police leader

51:29

will hit bottom. Some of

51:31

their members. Well, I'm going to point, but going back to that

51:33

moon thing, I don't want to distract you on it. So

51:36

you're saying an astronaut is an Explorers Club? That's

51:38

exactly what I'm going with, yes, well. Do

51:43

you know which astronaut it is? Yes. I'm going to tell you

51:45

some of the famous members. Teddy

51:48

Roosevelt. Walter Cronkite.

51:51

Sir Edmund Hillary. A newscaster?

51:54

Buzz Aldrin. Yes, but Walter

51:56

Cronkite has been around the world. Seen that there are a

51:58

lot of places. There's plenty of flags everywhere. Yes. And

52:00

most recently two of the members were

52:03

actually on the ill-fated Titan that sunk

52:05

last year. Really? Yes, two of the members. So

52:07

now was it a clean up job? You gotta

52:10

wonder. Yeah. They knew too much you think? Yeah.

52:12

Mmm. But, I think they didn't

52:14

know enough to not get enough money. Right.

52:16

No they did not! With a

52:18

PlayStation fucking controller guiding them they were like,

52:20

yeah I'll get on! Still insane. What do

52:23

you think about it? It's not like it's

52:25

faded in its insanity at all. It's like

52:27

they did what? Yeah. It's

52:29

absolutely... In 2023. ...runacy that

52:32

people got on that. Like

52:34

experienced semen. Mmm. Like one

52:36

guy had been on it,

52:38

been on multiple excursions,

52:40

right? Yeah. Is it an excursion when

52:42

you go underneath the water? That's an excursion anywhere you

52:44

go. Just a trip basically. So,

52:47

but what they're most famously known for

52:49

is their annual dinner. Where

52:51

they eat rare and extraordinary animals.

52:54

So I want to tell you what last year's menu

52:57

consisted of. Champagne

52:59

garnished with goat penis. Dipped

53:01

in freeze dried cactus honey

53:04

powder. Hoisin

53:06

glazed kangaroo. Applewood

53:09

bacon wrapped camel meatloaf. Rattlesnake

53:12

sliders on a pretzel bun. And

53:15

at one point they had claimed that they

53:17

ate a frozen wooly mammoth. Oh,

53:20

that one that got preserved somewhere? Yes, in a

53:22

cave. Yes. Those rattlesnake sliders don't sound up to

53:24

the task of the other one. That sounds easy.

53:27

On a pretzel bun. Now, when you first mentioned

53:29

this, I'm like, I want to try to become

53:31

an explorer. I want to join the club. But

53:33

as soon as I got to eat penis, I'm

53:36

out. That's

53:38

why you dropped out of the four colored penis, isn't it? It's

53:43

garnished with the penis? It's not necessary. I

53:45

don't care what. I don't care if it's

53:47

a penis from any fucking type of creature.

53:50

I'm out. I'll join a different secret club.

53:52

It does not eat penis. Would you guys

53:55

partake in any of this? That's a secret.

54:01

Can anybody join us? Yes,

54:04

you can. Can you apply for it? Yes. How

54:08

do you talk yourself? There's a website. Yes,

54:12

there actually is a website. It's

54:14

not very much of a secret society if they

54:16

have a web presence. That is true, yes. But

54:18

I mean, other than basically the Illuminati and two

54:20

or three other ones, yes. But

54:23

it is not a public website. You still have

54:25

to apply, get accepted, and only

54:27

the elite. You have to plant flags in

54:29

places or get sucked to the bottom of the ocean

54:31

in a submarine. So where have they not yet planted a

54:33

flag that they're trying to get a flag? Nowhere

54:36

that I'm aware of yet.

54:38

Maybe Mars? Speculation.

54:42

That is speculation. They

54:44

were able to, Buzz Aldrin was able to get

54:47

to the moon and plant a little flag that

54:49

nobody has ever seen. The Explorer's flag, yes. Or

54:52

is it a full-size flag like the American flag? I don't know the

54:54

size of the actual flag, it's just that they planted them. Is there

54:56

a photo of that? The Explorer's flag,

54:58

I can look it up. He

55:00

didn't take a picture on the moon? There's no

55:02

cameras to take pictures on the moon like that. We

55:05

talked about it on their bodies. They had their fucking

55:07

chest and camera. They had their photos that they took

55:09

that day on the moon. Not on the Explorer's. Well,

55:11

that's what I'm asking. Did he ever turn the camera

55:13

towards the... So you still have to know

55:15

how to do it. I don't know if

55:17

he was... Yeah, I'm not positive on that. One

55:20

thing I also noticed... Buzz Aldrin, a guy that

55:22

may have lied about the whole moon landing thing

55:24

to begin with, was supposed to take his word.

55:27

But also, when you think about a cue,

55:29

look at the list of people

55:31

who are in the Explorers. Yeah. No

55:34

chicks. Yeah. A bunch of

55:36

old white dudes. Actually, I'm pretty

55:38

sure they do. What do they do? Get

55:44

him showing us a picture of the Explorer's flag. Do

55:48

we need these Explorers? I think not. What

55:51

do they explore? Their sexuality? Do

55:54

you eat it? Yeah, really. on

56:00

their flag I know

56:02

you want to show us a picture is that the Logo

56:06

I'm a do it Go

56:08

2021 they do accept women they do accept women the

56:12

pandemic must have hit So

56:14

even they came to the fucking fresh They

56:23

added a little hashtag me to the flag So

56:28

would you guys partake of the crane

56:31

flag Gross

56:38

shit just to be part of the club, you know,

56:40

yeah because it's not something that you can do

56:42

you want to experience things at then Somebody

56:48

brought in somebody from Australia brought in kangaroo jerky

56:50

I Might

56:56

have a mammoth burger, you know, I don't

56:58

trust anyone. I don't believe that's a woolly

57:00

mammoth that they're eating something else We're doing

57:02

regular old elephant frozen a cave. Did these

57:04

guys hunt these fucking things that they just

57:06

ordered on Amazon? They did not hunt them.

57:08

I don't believe yes. I believe they just sat down a

57:10

fancy dinner and the food was served to them So

57:13

we're just not a hunters club. It's an explorers club cue.

57:15

I feel like you can fool these people I feel like

57:18

any chef could just be like it's

57:20

gonna cost you five hundred thousand dollars and it's

57:22

gonna be mammoth meat And then it's you

57:24

know, just a burger I'm a man

57:26

meat Because

57:30

I think the explorers a fucking chow down on it

57:35

Leave it at Tom to bring the fucking One

57:48

from the South Park episode where they were and I

57:50

was like wait is it and I was like, oh

57:52

no It's not that's a super adventurous club I thought

57:55

that was the explorers club that chef was a part of

57:57

that. They were all hunting little kids on and

57:59

I was like I gotta drop that but luckily it

58:01

was not the same. I feel like well

58:03

you would have the secrecy to

58:05

be in the secret society. Yeah. But

58:07

these rules they have were like now

58:09

like now you're rubbing elbows with the

58:11

likes of Walter Cronkite and Buzz Aldrin.

58:13

They're eating all kinds of crazy stuff.

58:16

I mean Teddy Roosevelt too. Teddy Roosevelt.

58:19

That was a man's man. Yeah. And

58:21

again each episode I'll bring. I hate

58:23

penis. This was last year.

58:25

I'll bet you he told them afterwards. Heard.

58:30

Hold that as much. Back

58:37

when you still say it. Fuck

58:47

you Cronkite. You tricked me. Well

58:58

played Cronkite. Well. You'll

59:01

catch me next year you penis. So

59:05

in the future I can bring,

59:07

remember I said some are gonna appeal

59:10

to some, some will appeal to others. So

59:12

the next episode if I get the gig I

59:15

do a more secret society. I'll take the

59:17

feedback I get and come with one that

59:19

doesn't have a public website. Right. Well

59:22

then maybe only the elite of

59:24

TBS can get into. All

59:27

right. TBS. Yeah. That's where

59:29

I can't talk about it. There's

59:34

an acronym for another secret acronym. All right

59:37

well Q what do you think of Tom's

59:40

first story? I mean it gave us a lot

59:42

of threads to pull at and I think that's

59:45

the most important thing to come. Will

59:47

right now is writing notes. Okay bring up. He's

1:00:00

still got a bigger set of goals we could do in here.

1:00:02

He's fine. He's fine. We'll

1:00:05

kill an hour. Brian, would you thank Tom's for

1:00:07

that? I

1:00:12

agree with Q in terms of like if

1:00:14

there were enough things to grab onto to

1:00:16

make jokes about and have fun with and

1:00:18

it wasn't... I

1:00:20

guess it wasn't so informative

1:00:22

as Will's. Will's

1:00:24

is rather straightforward and informative given

1:00:28

the backstory in the history, which I enjoyed

1:00:30

still. But... It's

1:00:32

probably better, right? Yeah. In

1:00:34

terms of what would be best for

1:00:37

the show, out of those

1:00:39

two, it would definitely be Tom. It

1:00:41

gives you so much more to deal with. We've got

1:00:43

another shot now. Yeah. Let me see what

1:00:45

I know the least about... Let me check

1:00:47

my notes to see something... Wow, you gave Tom a

1:00:50

dirty look when you said that too! Let me check

1:00:52

the notes to see something I'm completely clueless about. Just

1:00:54

go about 15 minutes. There you

1:00:56

go. You made it. You fucked up.

1:00:58

You brought intelligence. I

1:01:01

do sense that perhaps I need to pivot. I'm

1:01:03

just trying to take stock of how I feel emotionally

1:01:06

real quick and I'm sensing perhaps I came on a

1:01:08

little smug, maybe came out of the gate a little

1:01:10

strong. So

1:01:12

here's what I will say. I have no

1:01:14

doubt that Tom would be able to

1:01:17

come up with more than six episodes,

1:01:20

but let's face it, his list ends at six presently

1:01:22

while mine goes to the most frightening number of

1:01:24

all time, 13. Well,

1:01:26

I mean I wasn't told to come up with

1:01:29

any more than just one episode. You weren't told

1:01:31

anything. Correct, yes. So I came up with a

1:01:33

pitch idea, not a year's worth of programming, but

1:01:36

I mean my backstory is I've been doing the All

1:01:38

New Sunday Jeff show for almost six years at this

1:01:40

point and I haven't run out of ideas, have I

1:01:42

yet, Will? No

1:01:45

comment. Yeah, no, no. I've

1:01:47

heard your work. So

1:01:51

let me back things up. I gave you a

1:01:53

potential topic that I would want to bring to

1:01:55

the table and focus on for a given episode.

1:01:57

But here's truly what the pitch is. you

1:02:00

tell him Steve Dave overkill back

1:02:03

from the grave 13

1:02:05

episodes monthly on a

1:02:07

number of different topics culminating in

1:02:10

a grand finale that tests all

1:02:12

the knowledge that we have

1:02:14

together accumulated over the person I'm going

1:02:16

to remember shit from a year ago

1:02:18

that will that's that's the game got

1:02:20

no these guys man they are not

1:02:22

interested in doing homework I know but

1:02:25

I'm not interested in doing anything I

1:02:27

like that show on my phone that's

1:02:29

why the episode 13

1:02:33

I would like a 30-minute clip of just rising

1:02:35

I didn't understand the assignment I didn't understand

1:02:37

the assignment right here episode 13 is more

1:02:40

to cater to Walt's interest in in

1:02:42

game shows to be fair okay so

1:02:46

here are some of the topics that I

1:02:48

would want to focus on one local haunts

1:02:50

I'm familiar with many websites one of them

1:02:52

is haunted places org that focuses

1:02:54

on different it's almost like it drops pins

1:02:56

on the map around you to tell you

1:02:58

different places that are supposedly haunted the spy

1:03:01

house just about 10 minutes away

1:03:03

from here is supposedly the most haunted house in

1:03:06

America and most boring have we ever been there

1:03:08

I live oh yeah you're right there

1:03:10

right there so what I never heard of this

1:03:12

before the spy house yeah I basically could see

1:03:14

it from my window what's what is it go

1:03:17

on I'm intrigued so what I would want to

1:03:19

do is I would want to look at the

1:03:21

story of the spy house itself but you know

1:03:23

that there are a thousand other places that claim

1:03:26

to be the most haunted house in America so

1:03:28

this episode would be to talk about all of

1:03:30

the most haunted houses and eventually determine you

1:03:33

know amongst us our general consensus which

1:03:35

is actually the most haunted what

1:03:38

about the spy house what's going on there

1:03:40

doesn't have any information yeah I don't know

1:03:42

anything like okay okay so a format you're

1:03:46

pitching yeah I'm pitching a format I see

1:03:49

another one that I think a lot of people

1:03:51

clamor for I've never particularly dug into it myself

1:03:53

either is weird New Jersey

1:03:56

which I know that many people

1:03:58

love but I've never long time long time

1:04:00

around that magazine now, right? Yeah, still around. Yeah,

1:04:02

still going. So it would be focusing on some

1:04:04

of the best spots from weird New Jersey, potentially

1:04:06

even try to make contact with them, see if

1:04:09

we can, you know, have somebody from the magazine

1:04:11

in talk about the history. Oh, I thought you

1:04:13

were talking about maybe some potential brosides. Oh,

1:04:16

well I've got some of that as well. So,

1:04:18

uh, this is for the regular TSD though,

1:04:20

like, you know, and Q doesn't have time

1:04:22

to like go on fucking school trips. You

1:04:24

know, we'll go hunt for ghosts. I would

1:04:26

love to, but, uh, well, that's right. I

1:04:28

don't have time. So in my,

1:04:30

in my text to you though, I'm looking at our

1:04:32

text. I felt some

1:04:35

trouble. So this is

1:04:37

why, right. Are you free Tuesday at six to

1:04:39

come on TSD and present a couple of overkill

1:04:41

stories? So Tom also suggested he

1:04:43

come in and do a similar thing around

1:04:45

the time you offered to bring overkill stories

1:04:47

to TSD. So I thought both of you

1:04:49

guys come in Tuesday and present a story

1:04:51

or two and vie for the TSD overkill

1:04:53

guy position in TSD town for

1:04:55

shits and giggles, of course. Yeah,

1:04:58

that's, I haven't heard a story yet. But I told

1:05:00

you a story and I got ripped apart for it.

1:05:02

And then, and then Tom pitched a whole overarching six

1:05:04

episodes. Each

1:05:07

episode is six pillars. So each episode, each

1:05:09

episode was like, what? What each

1:05:11

episode was. He knew I liked the pillars. So he

1:05:13

brought the explorers club. Yeah. That's the story of it.

1:05:15

Yeah. Like we, we could, there's some meat on the

1:05:18

bone for us to chew on. Yeah. And each overkill,

1:05:20

I'm hitting it roughly Q about a half hour. That's

1:05:23

what I'm looking at. When I'm brought in,

1:05:25

when Q, when Q, you heard Q's interest

1:05:27

peak. When you heard spy house. Yeah. That's

1:05:29

where we'll had to jump in and have

1:05:32

spy house information at the revenue

1:05:34

at the end typing right now. It's

1:05:38

fine. Don't know the spy house. It

1:05:41

says here in my notes in 18. According

1:05:46

to my notes, uh,

1:05:49

it belonged to Reverend William

1:05:51

V. Wilson. Does anyone

1:05:53

like that? Okay. Let me go back to the

1:05:56

notes. There's

1:05:58

a ghost boy in there. Boy

1:06:00

in the Spy House. There's a ghost boy

1:06:02

in the spy house confirmed ghost boy in

1:06:04

the spy house. Okay. Why is it called

1:06:06

the spy house? I

1:06:09

think because during World War two They

1:06:11

had a bunch of spies they were living

1:06:13

there. They would interrogate spies like almost like

1:06:15

Guantanamo Bay They would take spies to the

1:06:17

wilds of New Jersey. Yeah, around the corner

1:06:19

from Wall Street. Not in the spy

1:06:22

house. Yeah, but this is back

1:06:24

in the day. The Voltells wasn't standing yet. It would

1:06:26

be great if they were still doing it like you

1:06:28

could actually see from your house the torturing spies. I

1:06:30

hit another guy. It's our Nazi spies? No, why not?

1:06:32

Go for it. Alright, I actually have

1:06:35

a sentence of information and it's on that exact

1:06:37

topic. So supposedly there

1:06:39

were legends that they

1:06:42

would get redcoat soldiers liquored

1:06:44

up enough to spill

1:06:46

military secrets. Oh,

1:06:48

we're going back to the Revolutionary War.

1:06:51

Yeah, so you get the British soldiers

1:06:53

so drunk that they accidentally... I

1:06:55

don't know how drunk you need to be to just be like here's our

1:06:57

whole strategy. I don't know. Get him. He

1:07:01

is fucking agonizing over there. He wants

1:07:03

to weigh in so badly. He knows

1:07:05

about the spy house. He knows about

1:07:08

this and that. Yeah. Alright,

1:07:12

so wait a second. Still not clear what happened

1:07:15

here. So,

1:07:17

well, will Rogers pitch the

1:07:19

13 episode? Where we

1:07:21

go out of studio. No, no, no. No,

1:07:24

no, no. Okay, no. That was

1:07:26

my suggestion. Okay. Yeah,

1:07:28

no, I pitched 13 episodes. And we turned it

1:07:30

into... And then we try to remember and play

1:07:32

a game show about the previous 12 episodes. Yeah,

1:07:34

just a year later, that's all we got to

1:07:36

do. I can't remember from

1:07:38

earlier today. It's a

1:07:43

grand finale and it was a good idea.

1:07:46

Yeah, I don't hate it. We're always looking

1:07:48

for games. Yeah. But

1:07:53

we still need... Yeah,

1:07:55

the assignment was come with a story for

1:07:58

us to chew on. I got another piece. story

1:08:00

guys. Well, we gotta talk business. Can you

1:08:02

wait here just a minute? Yeah, exactly. We'll

1:08:10

be back. Q? Yeah, I

1:08:12

mean, I want to know

1:08:15

more about the spy house,

1:08:17

but it sounds like those

1:08:19

facts aren't forthcoming. Why

1:08:22

is it haunted? Who's the boy? Who haunted

1:08:24

it? Yeah. Who owns it now? Yeah,

1:08:28

things like, or even a hypothetical.

1:08:31

It'd be like, if you lay out the facts of the house and

1:08:33

then at the end of it, it's just like, if you throw in

1:08:35

like, could you imagine you wake up in the middle of the night

1:08:37

and there's a boy standing at the bottom of your bed? You know

1:08:39

what I mean? How'd you get out from under the bed? Yeah,

1:08:43

little hooks like that and stuff like that.

1:08:45

But yeah, you probably need the story first.

1:08:48

But a format, you know, nice to hear

1:08:50

about, I think. Yeah, I'm

1:08:54

kind of along the same line. I thought we were going to

1:08:56

be hearing stories. I think

1:08:58

we're about to. We're about to hear a story.

1:09:00

Tom. Yeah, penis story. All right,

1:09:02

we'll get now. Got time to find the story. Yeah,

1:09:04

there you go. Okay. Roger's written his teeth. The

1:09:08

good news is stupid. It was better. So you should be able to

1:09:10

find it. I was told nothing

1:09:12

and then I tried to ape what he

1:09:15

did and I still got a rat-raced over

1:09:17

the cold. I read the text. This is,

1:09:19

but this is my plight in TSD town.

1:09:21

You know, I do the same thing. I asked Jimmy, can

1:09:23

you do some research on this? And I'm like,

1:09:25

and then he tells me he knows the name of his husband. Like

1:09:27

anything else? No. I'm like, what

1:09:30

the fuck? I told you to do some research on this

1:09:32

person. But

1:09:34

this is everybody in TSD. People can't

1:09:36

take direction. Some people. All

1:09:38

right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

1:09:40

I got you. I got you. I got you.

1:09:43

I got something modern. I got something now. I

1:09:45

got something today that nobody understands. You

1:09:47

ready? Yep. Yeah. Have you heard

1:09:49

of the Skookle

1:09:51

notes? No. Aha.

1:09:54

Skookle notes? Oh, uh

1:09:56

oh. Looks like we'll maybe... Well that smugness is coming

1:09:58

out. I know, I know. I gotta watch

1:10:01

that. I gotta go to the

1:10:03

conference. I thought it probably won't work. I apologize, I

1:10:05

apologize, I apologize. Alright, let me take it back. You

1:10:08

know what? I feel oh too. It's like we don't want

1:10:10

to like, again, like with our history or it will, it's

1:10:12

gonna be real hard for us to say he didn't get

1:10:14

the gig. Why don't we just put up... Oh,

1:10:16

real easy. Or why don't we just leave it up to

1:10:18

the listeners. We'll do a poll. There you go. And then

1:10:20

we'll work for a clear on my consciousness. Man, they hate

1:10:22

me. Oh. No, they're not gonna

1:10:24

like me after this. I came in hot and I came in

1:10:26

smug. But I came for this audience.

1:10:28

Not that audience. Not that one. Fuck.

1:10:32

Take it out of our hands. I like that.

1:10:34

Take it out of our hands and I don't

1:10:36

mind. Our hands aren't bloody. Congratulations. Will, you won.

1:10:38

I'm not going to court your plan. Oh, speaking

1:10:40

of polls. Yeah. Remember

1:10:44

we were talking about the anacroid versus... I

1:10:46

want to get your feeling on this wall. Because

1:10:50

I may have fucked it up unintentionally.

1:10:53

No. He didn't understand it. I

1:10:55

met... No, I didn't. You

1:10:57

can't believe it. I almost didn't want to

1:10:59

type. I

1:11:01

thought you might have that reaction. You'd

1:11:04

be stunned and shocked. No.

1:11:07

Paul Stanley, 20% Dan Aykroyd, 80%. Now

1:11:11

this is... Well,

1:11:13

we know our audience does

1:11:15

not like Kiss. Right. Yeah. Well,

1:11:18

our 15% is are you more into 1983 Paul Stanley or

1:11:20

1983 Dan Aykroyd? Now I

1:11:22

said more into what I meant was like... Who you're

1:11:24

more attracted to, right? Who you're more attracted to. I

1:11:26

think that's coming across. You think so? Yeah. I

1:11:29

don't think you fucked that up. I don't think you fucked that up at all.

1:11:31

Yeah. That's one on the checklist.

1:11:33

So you're telling me 8 out of 10,

1:11:35

13%ers, if they had a night that they

1:11:37

could choose one lover. One

1:11:39

lover. For one night of bliss. Rock

1:11:42

and roll hell or heaven. Depending

1:11:45

upon what you want Paul to do to you. Right.

1:11:49

Lick it up. And they're going to pick Dan Aykroyd.

1:11:51

That was 748 votes. I

1:11:53

agree with that. I

1:11:55

found it stunning to me. When

1:11:59

you look at that box. and that unitard. You're

1:12:03

talking about 80 like young Dan

1:12:05

Aykroyd, a good-looking guy. Yes, but

1:12:07

you can see what Paul has

1:12:09

to offer. There was no fucking

1:12:11

guessing. Yeah, but Dan

1:12:13

Aykroyd is gonna make you laugh. You

1:12:15

know what I mean? You only have one

1:12:18

night you run a laugh or you want to fucking

1:12:20

your old face this fucking show. I mean

1:12:22

it'd be nice to laugh. You want to go home at the end

1:12:24

of the night with an old face or you want to go home

1:12:26

where you fell and my face hurts from laughing. It really hurts from

1:12:29

fucking getting multiple orgasms. But

1:12:32

in between the orgasms, you need to converse

1:12:34

with these people. Really?

1:12:37

Yeah, sure. How would he weigh in?

1:12:39

Pillow talk? Not

1:12:41

pillow talk. Paul's not gonna hang out with you afterwards.

1:12:44

You want me to serenade you? Sandy,

1:12:48

I love the way I see your

1:12:50

face when I make you cum. Colin

1:13:02

Dixon and Dan Aykroyd

1:13:04

are separated. Yeah, that's right. Two

1:13:06

years ago. Your research was off.

1:13:08

They're still married, but they are not living

1:13:10

together. Paul Stanley still got another shot

1:13:13

for the rebound. Paul Stanley is still married, by

1:13:15

the way, to his wife. So

1:13:17

what does that say about Dan? That

1:13:19

doesn't give up half of what he's got. That

1:13:23

says to me. Wait,

1:13:27

don't we have a story here? No, the

1:13:29

scobble. The scobble. Oh,

1:13:31

okay. You're just doing the poll? Yeah, I was just trying to

1:13:33

tell you the poll because it reminded me of it. All right,

1:13:36

I'm gonna try to calm down. I'm all excited here. I

1:13:39

want to ask Tom if you wouldn't mind.

1:13:41

May I step in and share this other thing? Yes. Safe

1:13:43

face. Yeah, nice. All

1:13:46

right. So this is a thing that's literally going on

1:13:48

right now. It seems like maybe

1:13:50

every week or so somebody posts almost like

1:13:52

an update or a new photo of this

1:13:54

developing, weird thing that's happening in Pennsylvania. So

1:13:57

I guess there's a town called Skookle.

1:14:00

spelled all crazy. S-C-H-U-Y. What's

1:14:02

a Skookle

1:14:04

River, right? I guess so. Yeah, a river. I wasn't familiar

1:14:06

with it. So people are finding

1:14:10

when they go grocery shopping and they come home,

1:14:12

let's say you buy a box of cereal, you

1:14:15

open the box and you find a note

1:14:18

that somebody seemingly has slipped into

1:14:20

the package of food that

1:14:22

you bought. And it's a teeny tiny...

1:14:24

It's almost like a barely bigger than a post-it. And

1:14:27

this note is typed in the smallest font.

1:14:29

Alright, now we need to read up a

1:14:31

little bit here. So I'm gonna read you

1:14:33

just like a sentence because it's hard to

1:14:35

read too. Like they substitute like characters instead

1:14:37

of letters, a lot of parentheses and stuff.

1:14:40

So it starts with this. In all

1:14:43

caps, riots slash

1:14:45

chaos are tied

1:14:47

to secret society. A

1:14:49

secret symbol, sign, word that

1:14:52

unites the SS. It's tied

1:14:54

to Saturn. Wow, he's

1:14:56

pulling in space. Nazis and

1:14:58

secret societies in one

1:15:00

note. He's throwing everything in the kitchen fan. He

1:15:06

just wrote Nazi. Nazi, two crimes.

1:15:10

Skookle. That's

1:15:13

my go-to. But it's good.

1:15:15

So people are buying Rice

1:15:17

Krispies. Yes. And opening the Rice

1:15:20

Krispies and finding these notes. So somebody's slipping the

1:15:22

notes in them. Yes. And so there

1:15:24

are a couple things that people aren't sure about. For

1:15:26

one thing they think, is it somebody who's going to

1:15:29

a grocery store and finding a way to slip a

1:15:31

note into packages on the shelves? Or

1:15:33

is it somebody who works in manufacturing that no

1:15:36

one's caught yet? But so the question is, you

1:15:38

go to the grocery store, you buy food,

1:15:41

you come home and you find out that there's

1:15:43

a note in the food that you just bought.

1:15:46

And it's this kind of stuff. Here's like another

1:15:49

sample. Oh

1:15:51

my god, they talk about the

1:15:53

swastika and royals and dragon

1:15:56

kings. Yeah. It's

1:16:00

all over the map. You can't possibly... I don't know

1:16:02

if you're familiar with the toinby tiles. It's

1:16:04

that kind of like, it's hard to get a sense of what

1:16:07

the mindset of somebody... What do you do? You go to

1:16:09

the store, this comes out of the food you bought. Oh,

1:16:11

there it is. Now what? You eating that

1:16:13

food? Uh, Almea, so how long has this

1:16:15

been going on? I think at least

1:16:17

a couple of years now. Yeah. But it's

1:16:19

still developing now. Still nobody's found out this

1:16:21

guy. Nobody... No one knows.

1:16:25

Oh. And there

1:16:27

are variations too. It's easy to find out though

1:16:29

if it's somebody in town or if

1:16:31

it's somebody who works at the grocery store. There

1:16:33

are no shortage of cameras though. You're

1:16:36

doing it back in the stock room or something?

1:16:38

Right. And that's the thing is like,

1:16:41

so actually Get'em just pulled up on the screen.

1:16:43

This one is from... Talking to the mic. Just

1:16:45

over three years ago. And mine

1:16:47

is from like a recent thing that someone posted.

1:16:50

There are variations between the note I found and the

1:16:52

one Get'em pulled up that screams out the word lies.

1:16:54

Wow. This is

1:16:56

something like I see Get'em doing. You

1:17:00

know, it did make... Yeah, he ran out of receipts so

1:17:02

he started with these instead. It did make me think you

1:17:04

have that fake receipt. Well, Get'em

1:17:06

can't talk but Get'em had like a fake receipt

1:17:08

that he would hand to people. Right. Instead

1:17:10

of having somebody actually check what he purchased. But

1:17:13

it is that kind of like... Well

1:17:15

worth everyone's time. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

1:17:17

It is that kind of mindset of

1:17:19

like... It's that kind of manifesto mindset.

1:17:21

Yeah, manifesto mindset. Wow. This has a...

1:17:24

I like that. Different creams, you see

1:17:26

that note? It has a tiny

1:17:29

race of people called dragon kings. Their

1:17:32

long skulls in cave cities were found

1:17:34

in Italy, Turkey, Peru. Ooh, that maybe

1:17:36

where Crumpy maybe originated from. He might

1:17:38

be one of these... We had

1:17:40

it wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

1:17:42

In fact, let's say that he is. Get'em

1:17:46

get rid of the candy cane. He's a dragon king now. Yeah,

1:17:49

we got to get him a crown.

1:17:51

Yeah. Now this could also

1:17:53

just be like some like whacked out mental dude

1:17:56

that's putting this in here. Easily.

1:17:59

Or some teenagers. Well, that looks pretty involved. It's

1:18:01

a pretty big commitment though. So that's the thing

1:18:03

going over the course of years. Lots of different

1:18:05

food or? Lots of different food. So

1:18:08

that's the thing too, people have evidently tried to

1:18:10

triangulate, like is it always a particular kind of

1:18:12

product? Like what are the manufacturing plants? For

1:18:15

a particular manufacturing plant, are these the products that

1:18:17

these notes always end up in? But it seems

1:18:19

more random than that. What about the truck drivers?

1:18:21

What about the truck drivers? Can you name some

1:18:23

of the products? Truck drivers, good example. Oh, cereal

1:18:25

boxes and pasta. So I had one.

1:18:27

I had one pasta. It shows up in your

1:18:30

creepy pasta. Yeah, the one that I

1:18:32

had sourced came from original flavor baked

1:18:34

wheat snack crackers from Stop & Shop.

1:18:37

So if you were a fan of that product, you might

1:18:39

get a scoogle note. This is one of

1:18:41

those things that like, it's so regional. It's all

1:18:43

about this Philly area. Now

1:18:46

that it's becoming sort of a known thing, I

1:18:49

don't, you wouldn't want to eat the food, but I'd almost kind of

1:18:51

be like, I got one. Yeah, I was gonna

1:18:53

say copycats are gonna come out of the woodwork. Well,

1:18:55

not only that, but it's like finding a prize at the

1:18:57

bottom of your cereal or something now. Like wouldn't it be

1:18:59

kind of cool now that you know about it to be

1:19:01

like, I got a scoogle note. But

1:19:03

also wouldn't it be really common though that

1:19:07

somebody be like, I got one, and then to

1:19:09

create their own. Oh, I'm sure, I'm gonna create their own, yeah. Totally.

1:19:12

Well, that happened with, so I mentioned Toynbee tiles. Do you

1:19:14

know what that is? You can still see a couple in

1:19:16

New York now, but there was a guy that

1:19:18

would leave a message and it almost

1:19:20

looked like it was like paved into the street.

1:19:23

And it would say, Toynbee idea,

1:19:26

resurrect dead on planet Jupiter.

1:19:29

And these little tiles, there was one in Edison

1:19:31

by the Menlo Park Mall. It's

1:19:33

gone now, they pave over it constantly. Anytime these pop

1:19:36

up, but as recently as a couple of years ago,

1:19:38

I saw one in the city, but it's this idea

1:19:40

of like somebody who's just got an idea in their

1:19:42

head and they've decided the best way

1:19:44

to get it out there is to go through some

1:19:46

bizarre means. Well,

1:19:48

it's the only plan that makes sense to them. Yeah,

1:19:51

it must be logical. They're nuts, yeah. Yeah, they're nuts.

1:19:53

In their head, it's logical, but in the day and

1:19:55

the time of the internet, then

1:19:57

they're weird to be like, I gotta put this in your

1:19:59

like. in your Wheaties box rather than put it on

1:20:01

the internet? Well, it's definitely old school. It harkens back to

1:20:04

the, what was it,

1:20:06

the Tylenol-type stuff where people were like... Tamper-proof

1:20:09

products. Something that

1:20:11

people kind of expect and demand

1:20:13

these days. Yeah. And

1:20:15

when you get something that doesn't have something tamper-proof on it, you're

1:20:17

like, I'm not drinking. No way. No

1:20:19

way. Is there even a

1:20:22

chance that you're eating whatever was in that box that this

1:20:24

note was in? The pasta, no

1:20:26

way. No. Yeah, because pasta is

1:20:28

loose in the box. It's cereal. I don't know if

1:20:30

it's sealed in the bag, the inner bag, maybe. Well,

1:20:33

actually, that's worth pointing out too. There's conflicting information

1:20:36

online of whether or not the note is

1:20:38

just inside the cardboard. Some people

1:20:40

seemingly have said that it's been inside the

1:20:42

bag within the cereal box, but

1:20:45

that's one of those things that's hard to... It seems like there's...

1:20:47

It would definitely... And then also it seems like there's probably a

1:20:49

lot of copycats at this point, like Walt said. Like

1:20:52

someone did it and then you just throw a bunch

1:20:54

of gibberish together because a lot of it doesn't even

1:20:56

make sense. And then you can

1:20:58

just say, yeah, I got one of these too, and then you get a

1:21:00

lot of that conflicting information. Yeah,

1:21:02

no, I definitely agree with you. It's

1:21:05

just guys, to become the Lord of Overkill, would you

1:21:07

guys be willing to video

1:21:09

yourselves putting some of these notes into food

1:21:11

products? Do it in my

1:21:13

home. Well,

1:21:15

thank you. All right,

1:21:18

I think that story had a more... Definitely,

1:21:22

I mean, it was a story. It's right off the

1:21:24

bat. I will take points off for

1:21:26

not allowing us to make

1:21:28

any gay jokes. Yeah, it's unfortunate. I was looking,

1:21:30

I was trying to find a way to get

1:21:33

someone's dick into his mouth, but I couldn't find

1:21:35

it. I couldn't find it. Every angle was searched,

1:21:37

but... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We

1:21:41

exhausted every avenue to try and,

1:21:43

like, enter anything on those

1:21:45

notes. Not a dick, a ball,

1:21:47

even a ball in a mouth. When I

1:21:49

create fake ones in the future, I'll write

1:21:51

one up. Take care of

1:21:53

that. What do you think, Brian? I

1:21:56

liked it. Yeah, it's informative.

1:21:59

There's enough of a... like, hmm, I wonder, I wonder

1:22:01

what, who's doing that? It has to

1:22:03

capture your imagination. Like that's, there's a problem with the first

1:22:05

story is like, we already know it. So

1:22:08

there's nothing to like get your gears going. That's

1:22:10

what intrigued us. Yeah. Now there's

1:22:12

some intrigue going. I liked it. I'm learning. I had to

1:22:14

eat a little crow. I'm capable

1:22:16

of learning. Yeah. He came out of the

1:22:18

gate hot, came out hot, learned my place.

1:22:23

All right, Tom, what do you think? Look, Tom's stoic. I

1:22:28

liked it. It was good. I enjoyed it. It

1:22:30

definitely, uh, much better than the first one. You know,

1:22:32

you gave a, can we vote for a Lord of

1:22:34

the overkill if he refuses to talk into the mic?

1:22:36

Yeah. Stop looking. Sorry. I'm looking at the thing. Loving

1:22:38

Leah Rogers. I

1:22:41

thought it had a lot of good points and it actually had

1:22:43

some talking to it. So that was, that was a good story.

1:22:45

Well, thank you. Thank you very much. Well, thank you for giving

1:22:47

me the window. What's your follow-up? Uh,

1:22:50

I'm going to continue with my audience and I'm

1:22:52

going to give you guys exactly what you're looking

1:22:54

for. Another penis story. Oh,

1:22:58

have you guys ever heard of

1:23:00

the demon known as Papa Bawa? Papa

1:23:03

Bawa. I have not Papa

1:23:06

Boner. Yes. Papa Bawa. Now close

1:23:09

is an evil spirit known to the

1:23:12

residents of Zanzibar. Its

1:23:14

name translates to bat wing. It's

1:23:17

a shape shifter who mainly appears as

1:23:19

a cycloptic bat, but can change its

1:23:21

shape. I like that word cycloptic. He

1:23:24

typically visits homes at nighttime and

1:23:26

is associated with the presence of

1:23:28

a sulfuric odor. Like

1:23:31

night crawler. Prim stone. Yeah. Oh,

1:23:34

but there's going to be a big difference right now. So

1:23:37

while some of this attacks are merely

1:23:39

just physical, most,

1:23:41

his more frightening assault is

1:23:44

the anal rape of both men

1:23:46

and women in their own home.

1:23:48

Yeah. When

1:23:51

you go to sleep. You're like

1:23:53

Rocky Balboa here. The

1:23:56

only real fear I have. So

1:24:00

victims are urged to tell others of the assault

1:24:03

for fear that Papa Bawa may return. And

1:24:05

in 1995, six men

1:24:07

were attacked by the mob, by a

1:24:10

mob, because they believed to have been

1:24:12

possessed by Papa Bawa. One

1:24:14

was even killed, while hundreds refused

1:24:16

to sleep for fear of Papa

1:24:18

Bawa coming. So as long

1:24:21

as someone... Where was this? This was in

1:24:23

Zanzibar, in Africa. Zanzibar. Zanzibar. Zanzibar.

1:24:25

Zanzibar. Zanzibar.

1:24:27

Zanzibar. ...the table is. Would

1:24:30

you trust each other if the two

1:24:32

of you lived in a house that

1:24:35

while one of you slept, the other one would stay awake to

1:24:37

make sure that you... Who you want, yeah. Like if you're going

1:24:39

to take a nap, who do you want? Who you entrusting them

1:24:41

to be your bride and make sure we don't take a... Well,

1:24:44

I probably have to trust you. What

1:24:47

time? What time? Because the past 70's got

1:24:49

to trust you. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:24:54

like a full-time. There's nothing... There's

1:24:56

no other life to live. It's someone to wake...

1:24:59

Night time. Night time. Night time. So

1:25:01

you're thinking about just waking them up. What if like he strikes you dumb so

1:25:03

you can't even speak? Oh yes, you are

1:25:06

paralytic when it happens. Oh, really? Yes,

1:25:08

it's paralytic while... You just put an IC at

1:25:10

the end of every word and that's it. Because

1:25:12

you knew I liked my topic. No,

1:25:15

you're paralytic when it happens. But

1:25:18

you're conscious. Yeah. So you don't

1:25:20

have to admit it. Well, they say it's like a dream-like,

1:25:23

but you definitely feel it happening. It's

1:25:26

almost like I guess that twilight stage. Like

1:25:29

that twilight stage if you get sleep

1:25:31

paralysis. What do you say? The

1:25:33

colonoscopy. That's what you're going to

1:25:35

say, right? Yeah. More powerful stuff. More

1:25:37

powerful stuff. Yeah. How long have you

1:25:40

been around? How long have they been telling this story? There's

1:25:43

been at least 100 years, but

1:25:45

in 1995 was their big one

1:25:47

where it was like a psychosis

1:25:49

that happened where hundreds of people

1:25:51

refused to sleep. Now,

1:25:54

I'm assuming it's not a

1:25:56

sex-mad demon. Why

1:25:58

would you assume that? And they just... Why

1:26:02

would you be going out of something? I know,

1:26:04

it sounds like... So what is it

1:26:06

really? So who's

1:26:09

covering? From what? You're really doing

1:26:11

the rape. Yeah, I was a demon. From

1:26:13

Papabawa. Day one of TSD, you've always said

1:26:15

that in hell you know that the only

1:26:17

thing that is real

1:26:20

or physical is your butthole because that's

1:26:22

what demons want. More

1:26:24

than anything. They love it. They're

1:26:27

like ants on a chocolate

1:26:29

bar on a sidewalk and they're gonna love it. They're

1:26:32

gonna swarm it. So

1:26:36

why would you dismiss then that... I

1:26:40

just feel like you gotta look for the real... Like

1:26:43

Papabawa, I mean look man, if every time

1:26:45

somebody fucks another dude up the ass, they're

1:26:47

like Papabawa was here, like I just seemed

1:26:49

a little fishy to me. I

1:26:52

want it to be real. If

1:26:55

it happened to you. It's

1:26:59

like not me. You know

1:27:01

the family circle or back to that? I think

1:27:04

Papabawa was a little bit of... I

1:27:08

don't know. The

1:27:11

first sighting of Papabawa was in 1965. Oh,

1:27:14

okay. Really? So I would

1:27:16

have thought in the 1400s. And

1:27:21

then another sighting in the 70s, periodically

1:27:23

in the 80s. That

1:27:26

was the decade of anal sucking. Reaching

1:27:29

a peep in 1995. That

1:27:31

was it. That's when everybody was doing it. Everybody

1:27:34

was doing it. I remember. I

1:27:36

was there. Look at that. Demons.

1:27:40

During here, here, get them up on the

1:27:42

screen that says during periods of resurgence, then

1:27:45

can be found sleeping arm in arm

1:27:47

in front of their houses. Wow. They

1:27:50

wanted to be public. They wanted the whole neighborhood to be able

1:27:52

to see them sleeping arm in arm. That's how

1:27:54

much these guys don't want to get banged. Yep. It

1:27:57

also says every five to ten years. That's

1:27:59

so funny. Frequent that's like

1:28:01

an electric election cycle. It's a Papa Bawa

1:28:03

year everybody Just

1:28:07

in one village, huh? It's

1:28:09

actually there have been several See

1:28:12

look it says terrorize Zanzibar and the

1:28:14

Pamba Island. Did you? Please

1:28:16

did you find the story in a dark web? Yes

1:28:22

I get it would have been like no Although

1:28:25

it swoops through bedroom windows and rapes men who

1:28:27

doubt its existence. So if you're like, hey, I

1:28:29

believe in it You see you

1:28:31

you're on record at doubting him. Yeah So

1:28:42

I'm okay the Staten Island pop of all You

1:28:51

doubt me oh, yeah, so he So

1:28:53

there has been no sightings anywhere but on the

1:28:56

coast of Africa, yes, correct Yes,

1:29:04

it is strictly in Zanzibar and the

1:29:06

Pemba Islands next to it Okay,

1:29:09

I wonder what sleeping arm. But demons are

1:29:11

known to Collectively stay in

1:29:13

one area depending on their success rate. He has

1:29:18

Why would he leave? There's

1:29:21

still dudes doubt in your existence why yeah, why

1:29:23

go anywhere We

1:29:25

think Brian I like it. This is

1:29:27

a there's a home run. That was a

1:29:29

home run story We

1:29:34

got to turn crumpy into some sort of

1:29:36

like anal raping We

1:29:47

need a we need a fake dick Get

1:29:51

him we need you to get a fake penis like

1:29:53

where Hershey's syrup all over I

1:30:01

want all the sign exchange out

1:30:03

there to Papa Bawa get rid

1:30:06

of all the Christmas themes yeah

1:30:11

I think there's a good there's a good find Tom yeah

1:30:13

that was alright that was alright anything

1:30:16

else on any other information that you

1:30:18

didn't get out no that is everything

1:30:21

on the anal-ripping Papa Bawa demon okay

1:30:24

yeah one more well I

1:30:27

mean what choice am I gonna do now you can still hit a fucking

1:30:32

monster home run will I

1:30:34

do not have any more

1:30:36

penis stories so I really

1:30:39

don't blame is open I really don't think

1:30:41

I'm going to if I'm gonna be perfectly

1:30:43

honest attitude no you know what I feel

1:30:45

listen I feel like I've been I do

1:30:48

feel like I've been defeated Papa Bawa I

1:30:50

got who

1:30:53

said he doesn't come to America I'm

1:30:58

into America I went on CSD

1:31:00

and all I got with

1:31:03

Papa Bawa will Roger story after a home

1:31:05

run like that oh this is where champions

1:31:19

rise man dude all

1:31:21

right only shame would

1:31:23

be quitting listen

1:31:26

I'm very accustomed to quitting I got

1:31:28

I'm not gonna let you do it but

1:31:30

all right what was your last what's your best

1:31:32

what's the humdinger oh shit okay

1:31:34

well I use my humdinger guys that was

1:31:37

a penis story you don't have

1:31:39

one more oh I got more stories all right you're

1:31:41

you need to go on more time without pretty fucking

1:31:44

yeah I thought we were doing knocking it out of

1:31:46

the park with it all right

1:31:48

how about this have you ever heard of

1:31:50

Dugway proving ground or as it's known the

1:31:52

new area 51 okay yeah we

1:31:54

have not aliens okay so there's this place that's The

1:32:00

Dugway Proving Ground, supposedly

1:32:02

this is a place where during

1:32:04

World War II they tested out

1:32:06

chemical weaponry, flamethrowers, biological weapons, fire

1:32:09

bombing tactics. During

1:32:12

1943 the quote German

1:32:14

village and Japanese village set

1:32:17

pieces were built. So

1:32:19

this is... This is in the United States?

1:32:21

This is in the United States, yeah. So there's the

1:32:23

concept of a Doom Town. You heard

1:32:25

of this before? Doom or Duma?

1:32:27

Doom. D-O-O-M. So

1:32:30

I think actually a weird good example of this,

1:32:32

you know the Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of

1:32:34

the Crystal Skull? Sure. It opens up

1:32:36

with him escaping that bomb in a refrigerator? Yeah. So

1:32:39

he's in a Doom Town. This was a

1:32:41

real thing that they built to test nukes.

1:32:43

They would build an entire village, an

1:32:46

American suburb, to see what

1:32:48

the fallout from a nuclear bomb would be. Yeah.

1:32:51

So this Dugway Proving Ground was doing that kind of stuff.

1:32:53

So they had built a village to look like a German

1:32:55

village. Okay, get him, has it up on the... Yeah.

1:32:59

So this was another town to look like

1:33:01

a Japanese village because they wanted to see

1:33:03

what's going to happen, how effective are bombs

1:33:05

going to be overseas. Yeah. And so in

1:33:08

1942, this facility grew

1:33:10

to be larger than Rhode Island. It

1:33:13

was larger than one of the United States of

1:33:15

America. Uninhabited though. Uninhabited

1:33:18

but used exclusively for military

1:33:20

testing. Gotcha. No civilians allowed

1:33:22

whatsoever. Truly like underground stuff. And

1:33:24

was it built to look like a German

1:33:26

community? Yes. So

1:33:29

they would use every construction practice, I guess,

1:33:31

of a conventional German village in

1:33:33

1943. But

1:33:35

so I guess here's some of the question. Because this stuff

1:33:37

has been going on. It's documented, it's true.

1:33:40

There's pictures everywhere about it. The

1:33:42

village and stuff. How many generals

1:33:45

brought the secretaries

1:33:47

to the village? Come on, pry

1:33:49

line. The latter, the way. Put

1:33:53

this on. Let's pretend to be German tonight. Yeah,

1:33:55

it definitely happened, right? I think, you

1:33:58

know what? I'm going to say yeah. Because if

1:34:00

you got access to a place like that, we're not using

1:34:02

it. Is that the most un-like

1:34:05

seductive dialect of the German

1:34:08

dialect? Like no girl

1:34:10

sounds sexy. I know some of those South Asian accents

1:34:12

are pretty bad too. They're always like yelling at you

1:34:14

it seems. I would do

1:34:16

it right now. I

1:34:20

don't know because you can play American Liberators. You

1:34:22

don't have to be German. It just sounds like

1:34:24

Captain America. Yeah. It's

1:34:26

just like the Red Skull. Oh, so you're the German?

1:34:28

No, you're the American. I'm not getting out of this

1:34:30

uniform. No, we're trying to get

1:34:32

away with the accent. So

1:34:37

she's a POW and you're coming in to save

1:34:39

her. Yeah. Okay.

1:34:42

She would still have an accent though. Well, no, she's an

1:34:44

American POW. She's so grateful that she gives

1:34:47

her job. Yeah, she's

1:34:49

in a German prison. She's like, I haven't had it bad enough.

1:34:51

I guess I'll fuck for my freedom. That's

1:34:53

huge fantasy. I'm gonna fucking POW for crazy. I

1:34:57

just look grateful while you do it. Can you

1:34:59

look up at me grateful? I

1:35:01

can't even see your ribs. How

1:35:05

am I supposed to get horned? You

1:35:07

look nourished. I don't

1:35:10

think we've been a prisoner here anyway.

1:35:13

Go on though. So here's one

1:35:15

of the questions. This happened. It's

1:35:17

confirmed. Yes. But

1:35:19

one of the big questions I think in any story like this to me.

1:35:21

Oh, wait a second. Hold on. I just had,

1:35:23

I want to get... Go ahead. Say that again.

1:35:26

It's confirmed. It's confirmed. I

1:35:30

think that if it is him, he's

1:35:32

got right there a catch phrase. Yeah. Like,

1:35:34

where's the beef? It's confirmed. Yeah. That's

1:35:38

all. Yeah. You know,

1:35:40

he does, you know, bring a lot of

1:35:42

stories about cocks. I

1:35:45

knew my audience does. That's what

1:35:48

sent me flummox. I was going through

1:35:50

all my notes. I was

1:35:52

trying to find just one story. I was

1:35:54

trying to find just one story. Yeah. It's

1:35:56

confirmed. It's confirmed. No, I like that.

1:35:59

That's good. So here's the question. Is

1:36:02

this still happening today somewhere?

1:36:05

Is there some military base that we

1:36:07

don't know that hasn't been publicized yet?

1:36:10

Someday in the future, all this information will come

1:36:12

out and it will be as, you know,

1:36:15

at least published. Well, there will

1:36:17

be, will build whole cities that

1:36:19

they're destroying. Well, not just that. Well,

1:36:21

you know what? Why not? Like,

1:36:24

is there a place where they are modeling,

1:36:27

you know, different communities around the world to

1:36:29

see, you know, here's a weapon

1:36:31

that we're developing. What is the fallout if we

1:36:33

detonate it in this kind of community?

1:36:36

Right. Well, that's the reason why with the

1:36:38

neutron bomb, right? It's a neutron bomb. It

1:36:40

causes more death but doesn't ruin all the

1:36:42

buildings, if I'm not mistaken. Is that

1:36:44

right? Got confirmation room. Get him over there. Ooh, had

1:36:46

to go get him. He went to get him for

1:36:48

confirmation. That's not the one that's coming out. And got

1:36:50

it. Yeah, it's like hierarchy and

1:36:52

canine hierarchy. That was, get him

1:36:54

saying confirmed. That's

1:36:58

weird though too, where it's like, man, we got to

1:37:00

kill all these people, but I really don't want to

1:37:02

have to rebuild anything. Exactly. Building sucks.

1:37:05

But no, the question like. Yeah, I don't know.

1:37:07

Is that a meaty question though? If

1:37:10

I was you, I would have thrown in like,

1:37:12

and then it was rumored that the mob would

1:37:14

put informants in the buildings when they were exploded.

1:37:16

So bring a little juice on top of it

1:37:18

for us. All right. Well, to jump in. As

1:37:20

a matter of fact, that is. Oh,

1:37:22

so on. So there are, you

1:37:25

know, one of the things that Indiana Jones

1:37:27

taught us is that they had a bunch

1:37:29

of mannequins in that Doom town. Right? So

1:37:31

you see like when the nuke goes off, you see the mannequins

1:37:33

making the melting, but they also wanted to see what happens to

1:37:36

a human body. So where do they get

1:37:38

the bodies from? And similar to

1:37:40

the point of like, you've got this entire town built,

1:37:42

why don't you use it? Somebody,

1:37:44

at least one statistically, somebody

1:37:47

managed to hide, you

1:37:49

know, a person that they killed by having them

1:37:51

officially blown up at a test site. Right? You

1:37:55

with, I mean, if not our government. Yeah.

1:37:57

I mean, how many people? Yeah. This

1:38:00

site developed into other things. It closed

1:38:02

after World War II, but then reopened

1:38:04

and it became a hotspot for UFO

1:38:06

activity. So one of the big

1:38:08

beliefs is that this had been a place

1:38:10

to test biological weapons, and then it became

1:38:12

a place after Area 51 to store UFOs.

1:38:15

That's right. It started as a new Area

1:38:17

51. So what's going on there

1:38:19

now that people are getting that reputation? Yeah. So

1:38:21

there are people there. There's a guy in Utah.

1:38:23

This is all in Utah. Uh, this,

1:38:26

here's a quote from this guy who claims that in

1:38:28

this area, he saw a jet

1:38:31

vanish into thin air. He

1:38:33

goes by the name Alien Dave. Okay.

1:38:35

Trust this guy. With a

1:38:37

name like Alien Dave, how can you not? Alien Dave.

1:38:39

He's got a lot to say. Right to the point.

1:38:41

Are you sure that he's got the best information? He

1:38:43

might be biased. I'm not sure. So

1:38:46

he says that he watched a convoy

1:38:48

of Humvees that were traveling along a

1:38:50

road disappear into massive subterranean fortress tunnels

1:38:52

built into the side of a mountain

1:38:55

like the Batcave. That

1:38:57

takes a level of like infrastructure that I think

1:38:59

is like, it's not just enough to have the

1:39:01

site out in the open. Like you

1:39:03

got to have the whole society in the side of

1:39:05

a cave. And this

1:39:08

now takes like, I really think that this tastes

1:39:10

like a Hollywood studio to be like, we've got

1:39:12

to find a way to conceal a door on

1:39:14

the side of the mountain. I just like the

1:39:16

name Doomtown. Doomtown. I got a

1:39:19

trademark. Yeah. No. You got the

1:39:21

URL and everything? No, I've got a

1:39:23

pitch and I'm putting it together. Doomtown.1. Yeah,

1:39:25

that's not fun. But

1:39:30

so he also, Alien

1:39:32

Dave, he

1:39:35

also personally witnessed a laser beam

1:39:38

launch high into outer space. That's the quote. I

1:39:40

can't even picture it. He's such a lucky guy,

1:39:42

this alien Dave. He's, he's always there on the

1:39:44

spot to angle this shit. Yeah, he's on the

1:39:46

scene. Like if I saw a bunch of military

1:39:48

guys going into like across the street from me

1:39:50

into Earl Nate, like part of

1:39:52

Earl, I would even think twice about it.

1:39:56

So like why is alien Dave? You

1:39:59

wouldn't think twice about it? No, if I saw a

1:40:01

bunch of military people on a military installation. Oh,

1:40:04

well, they're driving into a mountain. What, Earl?

1:40:06

Yeah. Oh, Earl. Oh, I thought you meant

1:40:08

to have one in Shrewsbury. Oh, no, no,

1:40:10

no. Momma's. Four Momma's. Four Momma's. Okay, I'm

1:40:12

sorry. Yeah. No, I think, I think the

1:40:14

thing here is like supposedly. So Tom, this

1:40:16

story, this, this story of Will's, would it,

1:40:19

would it make your pillars? Uh,

1:40:21

yes, it would. Yeah. Cause one of the

1:40:24

pillars is extraterrestrial phenomenon and aliens. And this

1:40:26

has stuff we'll do with that. Plus

1:40:28

also, I can't talk anymore

1:40:30

into the mic yet. Uh,

1:40:33

and also probably some sort of government conspiracy along

1:40:35

with it as well. I gotta say, you sound

1:40:37

a thousand times better when you talk right into

1:40:39

the mic. Okay. So

1:40:41

this is a story you would, you

1:40:43

could see yourself bringing to us at

1:40:45

some point? Yes. Okay. Yeah. There's also an

1:40:48

element of extreme negligence that

1:40:50

I enjoyed. So, uh, there was

1:40:52

something that happened here called the sheep

1:40:54

kill incident. 6,000

1:40:57

sheep were seemingly killed or quote

1:40:59

unquote disabled, don't know, by

1:41:01

the testing of a nerve agent called

1:41:03

VX in the 1960s. That's

1:41:06

a long time ago, six years ago. Yeah.

1:41:08

Yeah. So was it a coverup? What really

1:41:10

killed those sheep? Yeah. Good

1:41:12

point. But how about this?

1:41:14

Nine years ago, someone

1:41:16

really blew it at

1:41:19

this, uh, this installation. They, they,

1:41:21

I guess, accidentally shipped anthrax all

1:41:23

over the country in 2015. All

1:41:27

over the country. I don't know who's in the mail

1:41:29

room. What do you mean they shipped it? That's

1:41:32

what, that's what it said. Like how they ship it. I

1:41:35

don't know. I don't know if it's

1:41:37

in the envelopes or boxes, but evidently this

1:41:39

was a, they were trying to send it

1:41:41

to somebody they knew like to other scientists

1:41:43

or other secret, you gotta

1:41:45

say, yeah, I would assume.

1:41:47

So all it said was they shipped

1:41:50

anthrax all over the country by mistake.

1:41:52

Yeah. Right. Like

1:41:54

who, like they must've been shipping it to

1:41:56

places that like ordered anthrax. Well, to ship

1:41:58

it somewhere by mistake. you're shipping it somewhere

1:42:00

that wasn't by mistake. So yeah, it's got to be something

1:42:02

like that. But, Will,

1:42:07

some advice. It's

1:42:09

too late, this is the last story. But instead of

1:42:11

doing Alien Dave, I would have just kept saying witnesses

1:42:13

say, because it makes it more, like it

1:42:15

gives us a little bit more to, like, I already know

1:42:17

anything Alien Dave say, is bullshit.

1:42:20

Witnesses say they've

1:42:22

seen airplanes disappear

1:42:24

and there was

1:42:26

an incident where all these sheep got killed. Instead

1:42:28

of saying like they were testing nerve agents, just

1:42:30

be like, and then, you know, all these sheep

1:42:32

died there one night and the government came out

1:42:35

quickly and said that they were testing nerve gas there.

1:42:37

But you know what I mean? Like, you know, you

1:42:39

hang these little things on it. I'd be a fool

1:42:42

not to take that note. All I can say is

1:42:44

the man's name. Never let the truth get in

1:42:46

the way of a good story. The

1:42:49

man's name was Alien Dave. I wanted to give

1:42:51

him some respect. Well, I

1:42:53

so badly want it

1:42:56

to get back to Alien Dave that

1:42:58

Q from Impractical Jokers just bagged him.

1:43:00

Imagine that, like, if the kid's back

1:43:02

to Alien Dave. He

1:43:04

will think he's touched by the gods. He

1:43:07

already thinks that. It's just more proof

1:43:10

to him that like, BQ's

1:43:13

talking about me. Yeah, and he won't, it won't

1:43:15

occur to him that it's in a negative way.

1:43:17

He's talking to me in code. He's gonna have

1:43:20

a joke. He has $30,000. Oh,

1:43:27

god, do I want Alien Dave to find out

1:43:29

that you can fucking ditch them. If

1:43:34

you can get Alien Dave as

1:43:36

a get, now that's fucking big

1:43:38

news. Somebody's got a lot to

1:43:40

say. Yeah, everything. I like stories

1:43:42

like this because any government, it

1:43:44

would be considered a government conspiracy.

1:43:46

Yeah, right. I like them because

1:43:48

it just goes to prove how much you

1:43:50

can't trust the fucking government. Every story that

1:43:52

comes out like this, you're like, see, see.

1:43:55

What happened, right? What happened to America that

1:44:00

We now trust the government seemingly,

1:44:02

like if you distrust the government,

1:44:05

you're seen as like a bad person. But

1:44:07

like, why should we trust

1:44:09

the government? I know, I know.

1:44:11

I know. Countless things. I feel like Trump fucked

1:44:14

it up that like, now, like, okay, you have

1:44:16

to be the exact polar opposite, you have to

1:44:18

believe everything the current government says.

1:44:20

Right. Because if you're not, then

1:44:22

you're like, you're a Trump-er then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But

1:44:24

you shouldn't believe any of them. If you have a

1:44:26

negative word, it's the about-and-you're- Yeah, but none of them,

1:44:29

they're all lying to you about everything. It's in the

1:44:31

papers every day that Biden's been lying. Like

1:44:33

you're right, they're all liars. Like

1:44:35

in the 60s, man, like I bagged on

1:44:38

hippies a lot, but I was wrong, man.

1:44:40

They had it right, man. They don't trust

1:44:42

a man, don't trust a man, ever.

1:44:44

And they became the man. Now

1:44:47

we can't trust them. When it

1:44:49

comes to this stuff, though. Yeah, it's kind of

1:44:51

lame that trusting the government is cool and right.

1:44:54

Yeah, all of a sudden it became, that's the

1:44:56