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tonight sitting on a critical
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we sort of january six committees
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ahead of thursday's hearings whatever
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for former president soon the during
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those crusoe one hundred and eighty seven
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minutes has his supporters violently
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stormed the capital and what we learned
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about the witnesses plus inside
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the skating new report highlighting
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systemic failures during the involving
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school shootings and the fresh series
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of fearing since tonight and
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it's not as mass shooting cities everyday
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violent who take who take dive into
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the gun academic thinking attention
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as eleventh hour is underway on
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this monday night
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good evening once again i'm stephanie
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ruhle to to former trump
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white house officials will be key witnesses
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at thursday's january six hearing on
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trump's one hundred and eighty seven
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minutes of in action during the violent
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riots and b c news has learned
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former deputy national security advisor
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matthew plunger will testify in person
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he resigned after the insurrection it's and
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has already given close to her testimony
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to the committee
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one of my staff brought
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me a printout of
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, tweets by
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the president and the tweet
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says something that effected by
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has vice president didn't have the courage
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to answer to do what the would citizens
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done i
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i read that sweet i
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am a made a decision
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at that moment to resign
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or that's where i knew that i was leaving
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that day of once i read that too
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after appearing on thursday former deputy
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press secretary sarah matthews she
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also resigned after the riots and
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test
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the by to the committee behind closed doors
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already
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we had all talked
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, at that point about how it was
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was and sad you
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know situation was getting outta hand
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we thought that the president needed to tweet
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something and to eat something immediately we
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all got a notification so
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we knew it was a tweet from the president and
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we looked down and it
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was awesome or awesome tweet
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about mike pence it's all about mike pouring
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gasoline on the fire by tweeting that
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the committee also hoping to get it's hands
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on those missing secret service text
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messages sermons any thompson says
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he expects to get those messages tomorrow
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he also said there will likely be to
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reports on the committee's findings a
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scaled back version and a final one
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meanwhile house republicans are attacking
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the committee and your a cabinet committee
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which out right lies
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january six sam committees
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is so egregious it is way
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worse than the impeachment witch hunt
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parts one and two and reason
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why it's so egregious is there's no republican
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appointed members
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that
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is an outright lie for fact said
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house republican leader kevin mccarthy decided
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not to appoint any geo key
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members after tools his choices
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were rejected and a vast majority
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of the committee's witnesses thus far are
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republicans most of which have
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been trump appointees aren't fully
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it's also a critical week for one
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trump ally and one time strategist steve
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bannon his federal trial started today
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his faith in contempt of congress charges
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for refusing to comply with the january
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fifth subpoena and another
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trump ally georgia congressman jody [unk] heist
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now facing a subpoena from the geo
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grand jury investigating possible twenty
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twenty election interference by
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the former president he has now been ordered
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to appear tomorrow hype has
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asked a federal court to block that subpoena
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the cover a less get smarter
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but the help of our lead off panel and
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you're in luck it's a good one jeremy peters
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political reporter for the new york times author
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of the new book insurgency how
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republicans last the party and got
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everything they've ever wanted suck
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rosenberg former us attorney and former
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senior at the i'd say so and ryan
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riley just a supporter for nbc
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news says i get a guilty of
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first we now have to ask trump
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officials were going to testify on thursday
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the committee already knows a lot of what they'll
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say you thought they were already spoken to them
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how do these witnesses swainson
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the committee's came
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well in the following way stephanie
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these are people who were around
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the president's the so if you want to know what
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the president sought and you wanna know what the
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president new when you want to know what the president
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said then you have as witnesses
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people who saw and heard him sit
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ups i heard really silly
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attacks against cassidy hutchinson
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for instance after she testified
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that she was just a low ranking official
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that doesn't matter what matters
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is that she saw and heard stuff that will
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relevant the committee's inquiry if
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, bank it's rob you call the
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president of the banks you call
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the towers they may be lower ranking
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and station and office but
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they were there when there thing happened and
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so having and so matthews misreport
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under we're in the oval office
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were around the president when
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this thing happened makes them
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important witnesses
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jeremy given what we've
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learned over the last seven hearings how
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critical is this upcoming one it's not
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an accident it wasn't random stuff
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they chose prime time thursday
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night right back in the day your in my youth
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has some friends is on that's that's
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silver spoons as going pains territories
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that is the prime minister of the prime time
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why do you think we can be getting
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well that's a great question because
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i think
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leading up until now
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what you had from these hearings is
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basically a lot of information
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that we already knew with
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sensational details comes
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spicing up i
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, that what what from what i'm
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hearing ah coming on thursday
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couldn't be somewhere
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along the lines of what we heard what
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we weeks ago when cassie hutchinson
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testified and you have somebody who was
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actually physically in
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the room we know that massive hunter
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was in the room for a lot
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of what happened on january six he
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resigned that day saying he had
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just had enough whether
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or not this adds up to
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dig kind of the on damning
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indictment of trump that i
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think a lot of people have been waiting for in
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the seven years since he's entered
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our our political consciousness we
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don't quite know yet but
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i think that it's fair to say
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that this that this to be pretty
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big deal authors
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there is there was a pretty big deal
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in washington me for see van
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and his trial started ryan you were in the
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courtroom what happened
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we're going through jury selection of say
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that is it waves that twenty two years
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for qualified to borrow the narrow that
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down by a features but each
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side will get it straight a few lamb
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from central jersey once again at all
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of fourteen children will be
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alternative for then twelve those individuals are going
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to decide the ban him speak
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your arm know there have been of sort of this
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town moments i think during a jury selection
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of the one such awesome either is the daughter
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of one of he sees on shadows
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are senators meeting someone is elected
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but not suited because cc doesn't have ah
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his methods of senators or representations
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tigers our boating representation
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countless others know a lot of people were connected
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to the political world but one of those people were
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disqualified and what the he realizes you know
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there's a whole part of washington that
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isn't consumed by news twenty
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four seven just sort of regular
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lies regular jobs and
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, the people who are mostly to conduct
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or the committee of the register
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their them
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the bus driver huge for special me
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our children is gonna be there there is
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a technician a for
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an appliance company outside of you see who will be
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on the passages sort of average folks who haven't
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been following the surly every single of the
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i have a big understanding of either
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the allegations against mr van important
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january six meteor what happened on january
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six foot you don't know about of these critical
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details and busted we still com inserted
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as of press sleep and will be able to hear
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the case as it is protected by prosecutors and
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your the fence as far as the see
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that it's defense lawyers layout
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what consequences could van and face
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here
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yeah for neither surcharges he
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could face as there is it a month is
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typically ah that is this the
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minimum on while one of these charges
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a can go up , there but
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there's a tap on our but you know the
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in what most people would do in the
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scenario would be to take be to of the best
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not the fastest he sat in his is
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choosing here of course he doesn't have that sort of get
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out of feel free card his back pocket
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is president trump is it the current president
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what's interesting about the strategy is
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it's not as though that the time if
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he has conducted at just the sentences imposed
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that time to serve as citizens isn't going to be
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able to be to wait a long enough to say
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get solved trump back in office
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of the consequences are going to come around up
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for this actually be for objects
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just sort of get out of that as as i
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in the past
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jeremy news reporting that trump is
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eager to announce that he's running
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for president because he thinks as gonna
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allow them to avoid possible criminal
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charges we have we heard that same
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things two years ago which is why
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he wanted to run for a second term but
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as one of the real reasons it's you
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the he's running it will force
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on the republicans to kind of galvanize
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around him and support him because right now
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over the course of these hearings republicans
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have been largely silent and
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then a couple have spoken out against
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i think you could expect them to remain silent
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as long as they believe that
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donald trump is the leader of the republican
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party i think donald trump has been running
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since the day that he lost
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the election because he believes
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in his head said he was grievously
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wronged and use them victim
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of sums it up false
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injustice here and that
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is where steve bannon and his
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trial can have ties into all of this
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of this was just talking about like
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the bench trial
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is interesting because it would
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put on display a member
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of trump's inner circle who
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knows his deepest flaws
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and isn't quite fully
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bought into the
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lie of the elect's of the stolen
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election be no midst of the cat i
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have reported this others have reported this
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steve bannon the it not
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fully believe that trump was
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going to be able to overturn the election so
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this whole of the audits
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ah vivid the recounts the decertification
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that was never was real
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possibility in his mind and
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mind the minds of many trump strategists
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what they were trying to do from day one
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the demon jeremiah biden before
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he ever became president
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was the purpose of all of the stuff amount
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of the purpose of january six until it
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got way way out of hand up
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out of hand is probably euphemism your butts
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i think that when you look at trump
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and where he is right now
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still the leader of the republican party show
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me somebody
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with a an elected official who
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is willing to
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stand up
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after all of what we have
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after all but that the committee has has
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revealed
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if there is no one not
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a single republican who has said you know what
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enough is enough i've i've seen
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it ah this committee
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showed me just how repeat
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it open my eyes i don't think that's
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going to happen and as long as they believe
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trump is of leader of the republican party that
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will continue to be the case
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what are the couple of other guns liz cheney and
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adam can zinger but they're in their own category
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com southwest sort of us is deleted
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secret service messages for the let's be honest
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there are not a lot of people out there for
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buying did it was just your regular
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old system upgrade that's how they all
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got deleted the fact
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that the committee made get these messages tomorrow
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how damn and you think is say today
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well first of they want me back up
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a bit
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on actually one of those people who believe it's much
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more likely ineptitude then
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malevolent then when you hear
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so speech separately horses not
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zebras look for the most logical explanation
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what i really think it was was a failure of leadership
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by the secret service at the very
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top the understand that there was a
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phone upgrade program going on and
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the to an upgrade program might have erased
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really important stuff given
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what happened on january six that
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aside what would show us well
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you know lots of times what people are actually
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thinking and doing at the moment
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are reflected in their text messages to
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the text or recoverable on a might
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be will habit and if they're not stephanie
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you're still gonna have the testimony of
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the people who sent and received a text
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messages so there are ways
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to get this stuff one is to try
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and recover the data the other is to simply
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talked to the people who sent and received that it
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could be really important because often
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what we immediately think is what we right
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and what we write is typically preserve
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and it's
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the service doesn't comply with the subpoena
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watches that tell us i mean this is a government
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agency
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yeah it's hard for me to believe that they're not
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going to comply with a subpoena for goodness
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sakes not only their government agencies
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stephanie there a law enforcement agency
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we don't we know we forget that sometimes we think
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of them as just providing protection
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for they are special agents from the united states
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secret service just like the ear you're
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a t f or f b i agents they are
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bad carrying a gun carrying men and women
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who have a duty to uphold the law and
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have sworn an oath to do so so it's
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really hard for me to process the
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notion that they will not comply with
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a congressional subpoena expect they will
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we'll soon find out chuck rosenberg
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jeremy peters my riley thank you also
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watch we're gonna leave it there coming
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up the sun and crushing
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laporte out of texas detailing
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the enormous failure in responding
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to the to the a school shooting how
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poor decision making lead to chaos
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to fight nearly four hundred law
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enforcement officials rushing to the scenes
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four hundred the later the
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democratic operative who discovers
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star than her party and
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but she devices to do right now
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with democracy on the line the eleventh
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hour just getting underway on a monday night
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for your current staff it's
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a current stance is incompetent no
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one
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man i'm out the going
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there seventy seven minutes
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seventy , minutes a
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lot of these shows inside survive
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one of my nieces included are afraid
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to go back to school
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there are terrified to go back they don't want to don't
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trust anyone absolutely
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justified outrage tonight
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as a texas house committees preliminary
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report sound quote systemic
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failures and agree to sleep poor does
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you're making in you've all day one
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amazing many shocking findings a
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total of three hundred and seventy
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six i'm going to say this again
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that i don't want to be any confusion on a may seem
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have it right we are talking about it tomorrow a
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total of three hundred and seventy
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six law enforcement officers
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work at the scene
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the report notes quote the scene was
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chaotic without any person obviously
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in charge or directing the law enforcement
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response your body cam video
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from new valday police department offered
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department glimpse into the chaos and delays
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the investigations they are not over
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the detectors department of public safety is
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now reviewing has dozens of their troopers
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and rangers responded of the same
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the left if that
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with us tonight branch has not for porter
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with the san antonio express news he
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has covered the evolved a shooting extensively
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and france is losing former sci assistant
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director for counter intelligence brian
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the texas house committee's investigation sound
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failures almost like on every
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possible imaginable level can
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you walk us through the most shocking findings
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and outmatched are reporting are reporting i
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just can't get my head around the fact that there were three
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hundred and seventy six people there
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right and no one clearly a command
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out of all those officers who were there
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the me the most shocking part of this was that
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some of those officers knew
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that there were injured victims
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one of those classrooms trapped
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in those costs are used with the shooter and
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still they waited for more than an
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hour
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to go isn't and confronted and and
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ultimately kill him
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what some the report
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acknowledge does some of the witnesses
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who were interviewed and report acknowledged that the
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reason they did not go in that classroom
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because they were waiting for better equipment
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the a better seals
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the one officer ask for mirrors
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to look around corners these
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are just going and and endings
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a threat to the and
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providing medical care cities children
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you are you
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meanwhile at they allow them any one of those
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parents would have torn into that classroom
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with their bare hands but of course they couldn't
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francs or years and years we have been told
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this line a good guy with a gun
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saves the day there
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were almost four hundred members of law
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enforcement good guys with
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guns in you've all day what and
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how happen
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yeah it's a notion it's of a
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mantra we keep hearing particularly from the
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and are a and it's so his supporters
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but the data doesn't support it stephanie
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in fact it's interesting the studies show
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that the more guns on the street
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a more guns that are purchased and were at a record
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number of gun purchases right now needs
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even more shootings and were at a record
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number of mass shootings right now affects
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the journal that americans the american medical
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association last year released a report
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on school shooting specifically you know what
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they found safe house in the presence of
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armed school resource officers
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you have more school shootings not
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see where so it's extremely
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rare for the good guy with a gun like happened
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in the indianapolis area mall over
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the weekend it's extremely rare
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to see a good guy with a gun effectively
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accurately take out a mass
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shooter and in most most of the cases where that happens
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it's an off duty police officer or
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a security guard so in less
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america decides that we all want to walk
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around in an armed encampment environment
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there's no doubt it is for the that would make us
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safer
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thought about that that that incident
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in indiana science because people are making
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that good guy argument a good samaritans
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who is at a shopping mall shot and
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killed a suspected gunman that and
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we hang our hat on that and will you think about
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probability and statistics is
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it better to be a countries awash
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with guns in hopes that
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a really brave good citizens who happens
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to be an excellent shot
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the right food court in the right shop
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lol at the right time
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that the right trade off we should be making
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what lock had a lot to do with it
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and edits and i'm hearing from the description
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of the internet that he also was skilled
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that's great but i have to tell
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his someplace police officers
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at the academy train for weeks
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even months the same for the f b i
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academies you're shooting every day
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half a day all day or every other
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day many do and qualified four
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times a year for the rest of your
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career you have to in a split second
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consider cover concealment
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acquiring your targets who's behind
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the target that you might hit what what
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are always people who get hurt with what you're doing
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all in a split second so it's extremely
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rare that that even a trained officer
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can hit someone accurately in a split second
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let alone have it happened with a civilian
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in a crowded shopping mall it was a miracle
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quite frankly and again do we
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want people to having more
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guns out there were the data tells us that more guns
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means more stolen guns more last
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guns more guns getting into that to the
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hands of very young children who think their poise
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and and of shooting their siblings that's
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what the data tells us
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brian texas is a big
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gun state i want to understand
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everything happening in you've all day is
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deeply important to that community
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obviously to those families it's
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also a hugely important national
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news story that take me to your
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average tax and outside the law
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they communities are they focus on this
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oh absolutely i mean this is dominated
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local news coverage a across the state
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a the for ever since it happened
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and i expected
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can you don't dominate coverage of you know there's
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so many elements to this the failed police response
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there's so many or the summers politics
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now are starting to convince your with us a
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texas department of our safety finally
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the forming an internal and
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external committee to began investigating how it's
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own officers responded the
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scene of the either you you said there were
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nearly four hundred officers responded
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well nearly one hundred that officers
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were went to texas department of public safety which
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is an arm of state
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they're putting this committee together two
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months after the shooting what's taking
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so long
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well i mean it is i think that
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this report probably
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created pressure
22:24
on the governor and
22:27
and the state to
22:29
the to actually take the count
22:31
of it's own a police
22:33
force the you know as i said
22:35
at the report was very specific
22:38
with a number of dps officers
22:40
who responded ninety one of them responded
22:43
that's that's a big number of was the second
22:45
most the second biggest
22:47
number in the report of of officers
22:50
i don't see how how we
22:52
seated well we look at that number and no
22:55
wonder what what ninety one gps officers
22:57
were
22:58
we're doing exactly what
23:00
they were doing and when they were doing it throughout
23:02
the course of this ordeal which lasted
23:05
more than an hour that we seven
23:07
minutes
23:08
more than
23:09
an ordeal frank your
23:11
the five year law enforcement
23:13
veteran last week when
23:15
you saw just a clip of that surveillance
23:17
video you said this maybe a
23:19
crime by police now that
23:21
you've heard all of these awful details
23:24
in this report know anything
23:27
the i wrote this column for msnbc
23:29
daily right after i saw the
23:32
video and it's entirety from inside the school
23:34
and nothing i've heard since
23:36
then in the state texas state house or
23:39
report has talked me out of what
23:41
i'm asserting which is it's time to start thinking
23:43
about criminal charges what might they
23:45
beat eyesight and the common to texas
23:48
statues they could apply they both apply
23:50
to children one is abandonment and
23:52
endangerment have a child under the age of fifteen
23:55
it it includes reckless omission meanings
23:57
it's not just what you do but it's what you choose not
23:59
to do second one is actual
24:01
injury to the child when
24:04
you leave them in an imminent place of
24:06
the in danger serious bodily harm
24:08
death physical or mental impairment either
24:11
one of those might apply here i think it's time for accountability
24:13
and consequences accountability think a grand jury
24:15
should be convened that hasn't
24:18
already we should consider whether the should
24:20
a locally is even qualified
24:22
to do it by that by mean she works every day
24:24
with those police officers in a very small town
24:26
in small very small counties to mainly
24:29
to recuse yourself but it's time for accountability
24:31
and i'd start with that school district so
24:33
pleased
24:35
science has enough thanks it was a
24:37
thank you for joining us tonight see reporting
24:39
in your expertise i appreciate it
24:43
when we can laugh at is not just mass shootings
24:45
thera gun violence in this country every
24:48
single day taste know
24:50
joins us is in india look as a
24:52
summons whole it is taking on our country
24:55
may eleven thousand c
25:03
the country saw another weekend
25:05
of gun violence across so many major
25:08
cities to solicit fuels
25:10
local reporting three people
25:11
killed in indianapolis one person
25:13
killed ten injured in new york city
25:16
two people killed seven injured in newark
25:18
new jersey to dead five more
25:20
injured in jacksonville florida and
25:22
at least seven people killed and
25:25
sixteen injured in chicago in
25:27
a special one night in america nbc
25:29
news reporters went to for cities
25:32
in one night for an indepth
25:34
luck and gun violence epidemic played
25:36
in our country here's a look at what they
25:38
sound the saturday nights
25:41
later one of the family members learns their
25:43
thirty one year old relative is gone
25:50
there been unbearable
26:05
the three thirty in the morning we just got back to the hotel
26:07
we thought the night was over but i
26:09
got a text from somebody in on
26:12
adjoining houston county it's
26:14
county jurisdiction and they had
26:17
what i'm a size for people
26:20
shot and killed that brings the total number
26:22
of people that we know of to
26:24
six killed in
26:26
the span of five or six hours in the houston area
26:31
when you go home and i to the shooting
26:33
victim the go on with you and i was absolutely
26:36
, mean every every single time
26:39
we try to separate
26:41
work from home lives it the
26:43
is a very tough thing we
26:46
are you gather for prayer was
26:49
, prayer prayer father of
26:51
free for for peace first of all
26:53
that said we're all here because of love
26:57
and so let love travel from one to
26:59
another let another be unity let people's
27:01
let's unity let's people's here stick
27:03
together
27:04
it does take a toll on pastor down
27:06
as and
27:06
this one's a lot out of me because
27:08
it was a lot of opening up your spirits
27:11
of an atmosphere it often enough to scanner
27:14
feeling the situation
27:18
i've been was below
27:23
oh man i love now
27:28
they do love and i never get love again
27:31
schools , know what comes after
27:33
this semi love this
27:38
are you drive home tonight essential
27:40
psychopath efficiency
27:44
everything
27:45
i
27:48
think about all of them at some point caesar
27:51
, this this is just one nine
27:53
of america service for for
27:56
is one either one city and
27:58
the richest country in the world
27:59
how
28:02
can spaces
28:07
that was as one average
28:09
night in america i want
28:11
to bring in one is the most valuable
28:13
people at nbc news my friends
28:15
and colleagues a cell anchor
28:17
of weekend nightly news kate thank you for
28:19
doing this take us there you are on
28:21
the ground in chicago of layout for
28:24
us what did you see and hear
28:25
so
28:28
my job that night was to follow one person
28:31
really i followed pastor donovan price
28:33
he just saw their up he calls himself
28:35
a street pastors staff he is
28:38
a man of god he is
28:40
more than that though he he tries to
28:42
help families who have gone through
28:44
the devastation of gun violence so what
28:46
he does is he sits around why didn't
28:48
sit around my she's busy all the time but he's
28:51
listening to the police radio looking
28:53
at apps looking at us social
28:55
media to find out where the next shooting
28:58
is and then he goes there on purpose
29:00
to try to meet with the families and make
29:02
sure they're supported whether they're
29:04
at the scene of a crime or whether they're at the hospital
29:07
or which is where we followed him on saturday night
29:09
his his whole job he says is to make
29:11
sure they have what they need they can talk to police
29:14
they can deal with their greece and sometimes he ends
29:16
up doing things like planning sooner
29:20
you asked him about solutions and
29:22
i told you and he told you the most important
29:25
it's a start to get americans to focus
29:27
on what happens every single day
29:30
and communities i kids watch them
29:32
the
29:35
concern that t the desert seeing as senses
29:38
right
29:38
this essay pick and choose you
29:41
, know that happens over there
29:44
may have over
29:47
here as them less
29:49
what they do this other live
29:51
when it happens in a big way mass shooting
29:54
as
29:54
or somewhere more aswell
29:57
as it gets more attention that this
29:59
whole lot on
29:59
crazy people color
30:01
the neighborhood first wave unfortunately
30:03
has worked up
30:04
the they that has something to do with the lack of attention
30:07
yeah
30:11
what nothing from the conversation
30:12
we talk about and islands
30:17
so much am i think
30:19
the point he's making that we the
30:21
media pay attention to big
30:24
mass shootings we don't necessarily
30:26
pay attention to the granular every
30:28
day violence as that's with the pastor's
30:30
saying there he sang until we
30:33
all collectively start to pay more
30:35
attention to the problem we're not going to be able to
30:37
get to the solutions we know what works
30:39
he said to me mentoring works for example
30:41
you know trying to get young people to
30:43
stay on the right track and not get him
30:45
with the wrong crowd and maybe not join gangs
30:47
because that's a huge part of the situation
30:50
in the neighborhoods where he works in chicago his
30:52
gang violence but until
30:54
we're all dedicated to that and
30:56
giving the resources to that he says
30:58
we're not gonna get there get there get there with just
31:00
his community alone
31:03
i'm so grateful that you did
31:05
this you lead the supporting your executive
31:07
producer map for a team but it wasn't just chicago
31:10
skewer and baltimore susan philadelphia
31:13
was there a collective take away at
31:15
the end of this experience that you all
31:17
felt this is what america needs to know
31:19
i
31:23
think exhaustion i think
31:25
frustration exhaustion
31:27
on the the sense that it's the same
31:30
every day over and over without
31:32
that in every location we were at
31:34
you heard police officers you heard hospital
31:37
doctors and staff and nurses and
31:39
you heard the past or say the same thing
31:41
which was this has to stop
31:44
we are living the same you
31:46
know actual with situation
31:48
over and over again every
31:50
night we're going to the same kinds of
31:52
scenes were living the same sort of things in
31:54
the hospital they're getting the same kinds of
31:56
cases in every single day
31:59
and it's exhaust
31:59
n and that was
32:02
the common theme that i took away
32:05
what inspired you to do this is
32:07
it that we forget everyday gun
32:09
violence because we gave enormous attention
32:12
to these awful mass shootings and
32:14
we're overlooking what's happening every day
32:16
yeah
32:19
i i work sunday nightly news
32:21
so i mean every sunday morning right and we
32:23
always hear about the gun violence
32:25
that happened overnight and we always hear you
32:28
know the were this many deaths in this city and this money
32:30
is as as as here and frankly seventy
32:32
we can't cover it all there isn't enough
32:34
room in the broadcast to cover
32:36
everything that happened so we thought if
32:38
we could just maybe zero in one night
32:40
and dedicate the resources to us to
32:42
really watch and then we spent
32:45
about half of our broadcast showing the
32:47
audience what what we found we
32:49
thought that might be productive just to kind of put
32:51
a lens and lens and on something
32:53
that may be goes unrecognized too
32:55
often i'm grateful
32:57
that you did states now thank you so much
33:04
coming up soon as he or she has
33:06
dot the i's are good candidates and
33:08
fears messages and tonight
33:10
strategists listeners it's here with us
33:12
she tells us has democrats should be shaping
33:15
the conversation and democracy
33:17
hangs in the balance
33:25
the democrats on the hill are facing an uncomfortable
33:27
reality these days with abortion bill
33:29
that stalled the only real path
33:32
to codifying row live in the hands
33:34
of voters this november and that makes
33:36
birch to protect bourse and right
33:38
the whole lot harder
33:39
so let's discuss the listeners political
33:42
strategist democratic kingmaker and
33:44
now author of a new book any
33:46
given tuesday it's a little love
33:48
story which is out tomorrow and
33:50
quickly going to be your
33:52
august must read or
33:54
it lists welcome congratulations
33:57
on a book same give you a big challenge
33:59
is they were running the show
34:01
how would you want democrats to talk
34:03
about abortion right now while
34:06
the most important things to say is
34:08
that republicans want
34:10
to take healthcare decisions outside
34:13
of the hands of women and doctors
34:16
and put them in the hands of politicians that's
34:18
the most important thing they want to criminalize
34:21
soccer's and women for abortions
34:24
they want to force women who
34:26
are the victims of rape
34:28
in fact or whose lives
34:30
are at stake to give birth
34:33
and this is a life and death issue
34:35
and it is why we need every
34:37
once every one to go
34:39
out and vote no matter how
34:41
they how and do they feel no matter
34:43
how they feel about joe biden stitches
34:46
in life and death issue for this country
34:49
go beyond abortion she democrats
34:52
be looking at this primary it's not
34:54
as an election that's about republican policies
34:57
vs democratic policies should they
34:59
be telling america this is about
35:01
democracy oh absolutely
35:04
i mean we see that we're ,
35:07
with their january six chirac's
35:09
ah when when president
35:11
tried to incite an incite
35:14
and now and i was here a
35:16
couple weeks ago talking with you about the seventy
35:19
now we have gubernatorial candidates
35:21
across the country in arizona
35:24
wisconsin michigan
35:26
pennsylvania who film
35:29
who are election did ayers and who would
35:31
not acknowledge the
35:33
twenty would not elections have a democrat
35:35
were to win their states so yes democracy
35:38
is absolutely on the ballot
35:41
you right in your book that you
35:43
see your role as someone who helps
35:46
candidates be themselves
35:48
if you are advising joe biden right now he's
35:50
been on the world safe for decades
35:53
how would you apply that how would you
35:54
shelby job
35:56
oh
35:58
they were my summer job
35:59
frank oh man i'm
36:02
joe biden is an extremely empathetic
36:05
percent and we know that
36:07
the american people are feeling
36:09
a lot of pain right now they're feeling
36:12
pain from the fall out of the pandemic
36:14
from high gas prices from
36:16
inflation and there's no one
36:19
who feels are paid more than someone
36:21
like joe biden so he needs to get
36:23
out we'll away from the white house
36:26
and among the american people and communities
36:28
across the country where they are feeling
36:30
this pain and features and directly okay
36:34
imperfect i'm i'm so glad you brought up gas
36:36
prices because i want to give you a messaging challenge
36:39
we know inflation is a huge problem one of the
36:41
biggest drivers of inflation is gas prices
36:43
but we just learned today the
36:46
gas prices are fifty cents lower
36:48
than they were at the peak in june if
36:51
your joe biden if you're democrats right now
36:53
how old are you get this message out
36:55
there oh we need to
36:57
continue to talk about it and the progress we've
36:59
made that is not far not phrases
37:02
is still in california cc
37:04
gas prices he died five
37:06
ninety a gallon so we can
37:08
use spices football quite yes
37:11
but we should be talking about the progress said he's
37:13
been able to make and how
37:15
we are producing more oil under
37:17
his administration to alleviate costs
37:20
then at almost any time in
37:22
history
37:24
canada democratic party you know
37:26
how difficult it is fit under one
37:28
tent i think back to the infrastructure
37:30
bill now a law a massive
37:33
massive when for democrats but
37:35
they didn't really spend any time running
37:37
a victory lap and showing that to america
37:40
because they had more ambitious plans with
37:42
build back better ah
37:44
mountain was lucky i think
37:46
the beauty of the democratic party at least in
37:49
in my opinion is
37:51
that is a big tent party arm
37:53
and it is a party that should be of fifty
37:55
state parties are one that doesn't impose
37:58
purity tests were and
37:59
west virginia democrat has to be the
38:02
same as a new york democrats
38:04
but mayor pete and
38:06
administration are going out and making
38:08
the case all across the country and
38:10
been media markets big and small
38:13
that v infrastructure bell will create
38:15
for jobs will rebuild our
38:17
roads and bridges will help underserved
38:20
communities and is and huge
38:22
a huge the future and we
38:24
think about how long how
38:26
long we have been talking about on
38:28
infrastructure and improving it i mean if
38:31
it it felt like every week under
38:33
donald trump was infrastructure week and
38:35
we've finally gone nuts but it's
38:37
more than just that we need to talk
38:39
about what's at stake in the selection
38:42
is we've gone this stuff done but
38:44
what happens if we hand
38:47
the keys a power over to the
38:49
republicans swamp one
38:51
they have no solutions to
38:53
offer any economic relief to
38:55
the american people and when
38:57
they get power we know what they'll do they
39:00
want to
39:02
promo eyes abortions and
39:04
they want to make it
39:05
they may want to make it impossible
39:08
for a democrat to get elected present
39:11
and the only the only
39:13
agenda with seen put forth as far
39:16
from republicans as embark
39:19
dot added something that would sunset on
39:21
social security medicare
39:24
raise taxes on working people
39:26
and so we should be talking about that every day
39:29
of the week to this joe biden had
39:31
always sad and i remember in twenty
39:33
twelve and i talk about the some my book any given
39:35
to says he's not
39:37
running against the almighty she's
39:40
running against the alternate apps and
39:42
the alternative in the republican
39:44
party
39:45
there's not a party that
39:47
wants to have the american people and does
39:49
not want our alleviate any of the pain
39:52
that working americans are feeling right now
39:55
however skilled len smith such
39:58
as the time the name of her
40:00
boss and not give me the opportunity
40:03
to ask if she thinks secretaries
40:05
heat is
40:05
next guy running for president the trick
40:08
us last i will bring you back here soon
40:10
i'm on she is she doesn't want as a sense of
40:12
to put a just sitting there that last
40:15
congratulations on the book great to
40:17
see you and i'm thinking about that we need
40:19
to accept our elected officials
40:21
were they are a west virginia democrat
40:23
is different from one in the state of new york
40:26
any given tuesday as a little the love story
40:28
comes out tomorrow listener thank you
40:30
com interfaces six history
40:32
making moments on the field and
40:34
inspirational message to send this monday
40:37
when the eleventh hour
40:46
the last thing before we go sinise
40:48
a little inspiring america twenty
40:51
eight year old carson ticket recently became
40:53
the first player with a limp difference to
40:55
play for us women's national team
40:58
and
40:58
these christian darwin brings us or story
41:01
international peace inquiry
41:02
the need to be sealed city us women's
41:05
national soccer
41:05
the game
41:09
why didn't just her dream on that field
41:12
i think that that was like one of the coolest moments
41:14
of my life is just realizing that there's
41:17
, many people out there that are just like me and
41:19
that are looking up to me and i can on
41:21
you know maybe show them the way born without
41:24
her left hand and for i'm picket recently
41:26
became the first player with a when difference
41:28
to place is a national team not
41:31
there because she's difference the just
41:33
like every player out there the best
41:35
of the best i was just an incredible moment
41:38
sister to take all take it all
41:40
and and realize where i was playing for what the
41:42
best team the world months starting to the best him the
41:44
war on it's not the first time
41:46
he good as inspired in twenty
41:48
nineteen this moment within one year
41:50
old juices kid went viral
41:53
kid remember having a jacket on and i pulled my
41:55
arms out of the jacket and he just
41:57
started seeming and he was smiling
41:59
he
41:59
laughing and i was like oh my gosh i
42:02
cannot believe that he realizes that were the same
42:05
joseph also born with a limb
42:07
signal for and
42:10
following in her athletic footsteps
42:14
our to save follow your dreams
42:16
ah my say it all the time of my dad has
42:18
told me a million times never let
42:20
anyone tennis kinds of the ceiling words
42:22
to live by as she helped the us
42:25
team to team to nothing win over columbia
42:27
law ceiling fans around the world would
42:30
define limits can look like
42:32
in our brain nbc news
42:37
never let anyone turn your
42:39
sky into a ceiling wise
42:42
words for us all tonight and
42:45
on that beautiful i wish you all
42:47
is very nice smile of our
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when because the networks as nbc news
42:51
thanks to say not late with us
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have a new at the end of smile
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