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Donald Trump has a trial date
0:31
in the Hush Money case. Why
0:33
an appeals court reduced his massive
0:35
civil fraud bond. What's next for
0:37
the former president as his social
0:39
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0:42
Republican outrage grows at Mike Johnson
0:44
over the spending deal. What far-right
0:46
House members are saying about his
0:48
future. Plus Russia tries to
0:51
link the Moscow attack to Ukraine.
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Kiev has denied playing any role.
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Former ambassador to Ukraine, Bill Taylor,
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is here as the 11th
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1:06
Good evening. Once again, I'm Stephanie Ruhl live from
1:09
Miami, and we are now 225 days away
1:11
from the election. And
1:15
today was a pivotal day in
1:17
two courts for the twice impeached,
1:19
four times indicted ex-president, Donald J.
1:21
Trump. Today was his deadline to
1:23
come up with an over $460
1:26
million bond in his civil fraud trial.
1:28
Meanwhile, his defense team in the Hush
1:30
Money case had to explain to a
1:32
judge why they wanted to further delay
1:35
that trial. The day ended with
1:37
two rulings. One, ensuring that Trump will
1:39
be for the first president to stand
1:42
criminal trial. The other means that he
1:44
will be the first president required to
1:46
post a nine figure bond in a
1:49
fraud case. My colleague, Laura Jarrad, has
1:51
all the details. The
1:54
last minute, an appeals court reducing the
1:56
bond in his civil fraud case by
1:58
more than half to. One Hundred and
2:00
Seventy Five Million Dollars. The trial judge
2:03
had said it at more than Four
2:05
Hundred and Fifty million. Mister. Trump
2:07
praising the ruling. If they
2:09
do is a zoo. elections as a earth was
2:11
his court cases and or let's try a tie
2:13
him up as a sick as much of his
2:16
money as possible. With. No lenders willing to
2:18
covered the staggering penalty while he
2:20
appeals Mister Trump the facing the
2:22
prospect of New York's Attorney General
2:24
seizing his iconic properties and bank
2:26
accounts as soon as today. But.
2:29
Now has ten days to come up
2:31
with the far smaller bond, Mister Trump
2:33
saying he has the cast and with.
2:36
Press by embassies, garrett hate and
2:38
all the often or much for
2:40
so it's not a a business
2:43
and the senses but. The
2:46
court found Mister Trump falsely inflated
2:49
the values as properties to get
2:51
banks to give better loan term.
2:53
His attorneys are appealing saying there
2:55
were no victims that the banks
2:57
were repaid, but today, New York
2:59
Attorney General Letitia James highlighted the
3:01
former President, is still on the
3:03
hook City ultimately lose his appeal.
3:06
Saying. Donald Trump is still
3:08
facing accountability for his staggering fraud
3:10
the four hundred and sixty four
3:12
million dollar judgment plus interest against
3:15
Donald Trump and other descendants still
3:17
stance. Meanwhile. The presumptive
3:19
G O P nominee sat stone
3:21
faced in a different courtroom today,
3:24
receiving a serious setback. A. Judge
3:26
in Manhattan, setting a new date of
3:28
April fifteenth for the first ever criminal
3:30
trial of a former President. Facing.
3:33
Charges of doctoring has companies records
3:35
to cover up an alleged affair
3:37
before the Twenty Sixteen election. Mister
3:39
Trump's legal team today failed to
3:41
convince the judge from delaying the
3:43
trial any further. And. On I you
3:46
can have a trial. Is
3:48
going on right the middle of an election? Not
3:50
fair. Some.
3:52
says he would have no problem testifying
3:54
in the house when a criminal trial
3:57
he also says he will post the
3:59
now reduced hundred and seventy million bond
4:01
very quickly within the next 10 days.
4:04
With that, let's get smarter with the
4:06
help of our lead-off panel this evening.
4:08
Suzanne Craig is here, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative
4:11
reporter for The New York Times. She's
4:13
reported on Donald Trump's finances for years.
4:15
Brian Schwartz joins us, CNBC political finance
4:18
reporter. Dave Arenberg is here, state attorney
4:20
for Palm Beach County, and Watergate assistant
4:22
prosecutor John Sale. He's a former federal
4:24
prosecutor, having served in the Southern District
4:27
of New York. Dave, I
4:29
am in your home state, so you get to go
4:31
first. Many people were
4:33
surprised when the New
4:35
York appeals court reduced Trump's
4:37
bond. But he sells it by $175 million, and
4:39
if he loses the appeal, another $285 million. What's
4:44
your take? I was surprised,
4:46
too, because he went and said on
4:48
social media that I've got the money,
4:50
over $500 million. And
4:52
the court still listened to his
4:54
lawyers instead of the client and allowed him
4:57
to reduce the amount significantly and get an
4:59
extra 10 days. So I was surprised.
5:01
And you know, the criminal justice system is not
5:03
as transparent as it should be, especially in New
5:05
York, where they don't allow cameras in the courtroom,
5:07
and you have this appellate court who didn't even
5:09
explain their ruling. You'd think this would be the
5:11
one case where they'd want to tell the public
5:13
why they did what they did. That's
5:15
what I thought was so interesting. It was this
5:17
two-page ruling with no reasoning, John. What do you
5:19
think? Well, it's not a criminal case.
5:21
It's a civil case. But I think
5:23
they did the attorney general a favor,
5:25
because the attorney general's office is not
5:27
in the business of seizing office buildings.
5:31
They're going to be mortgaged. You have to pay off the mortgages. The
5:34
commercial real estate market in New York is terrible.
5:36
$175 million is not chump change. And
5:39
there is still a special
5:41
monitor in place. So neither
5:44
Trump nor his relatives can encumber
5:46
or dissipate any of the assets. So
5:49
I think the attorney general has accomplished what
5:51
she wants, and the public has secured. And
5:53
now let the appeal take its course. Suzanne,
5:56
he's got this extra 10 days. He says
5:58
he's got the money. No problem. saying it
6:00
quickly, two questions. Do you think he
6:02
has the money? And number two,
6:05
he's also saying he's now going to fund his
6:07
campaign. He didn't do it last time. Why did
6:09
we think this time will be different? Well,
6:12
let me start with the first one, which is
6:15
I do think he has the money and I
6:17
think he'll post this soon because it's clocking interest.
6:20
He's been given 10 days. I think we
6:22
may see it post before, but I
6:24
think he can do this. And it was interesting
6:27
as I was surprised to see
6:29
the appeals court come through on
6:31
this. Thursday was when we thought
6:33
they would rule and that's when
6:35
they normally rule and it came
6:38
and it went. And then Friday
6:40
afternoon, he did, he came out and
6:42
said, I've kind of got the 500 million.
6:45
So that's
6:48
buster in the background. So
6:50
yeah, I was surprised to see it this morning,
6:53
but it's still short.
6:55
And there's sort of people, I think
6:57
rightly sort of wondering if there are
6:59
two, two forms of justice
7:01
here, one for Donald Trump and one for the
7:03
rest of us. It's
7:07
less than half of what we thought he
7:09
would have to post, but it's still a
7:11
lot of money. And I also wonder the
7:13
appeals court, it was frustrating that
7:15
they didn't give any reason why, but I, one
7:17
of the reasons, you know, I keep thinking about
7:19
is just if Donald Trump had had to post
7:22
$500 million, you know,
7:24
what that would have done to the
7:26
Trump organization, depending on the assets that
7:28
Letitia James decided to go after. She
7:31
went after all of his cash. It
7:33
could have just wiped out his payroll
7:35
and his ability to,
7:37
to service his debt.
7:39
All right. Then given that's his
7:41
cash position, given how well you know
7:44
his finances and him being
7:46
an honest broker, you believe
7:48
he's going to fund his own campaign. I
7:50
can't even keep it straight. Well,
7:53
yeah, that's a separate question. I don't think we're
7:55
going to see that coming up. I mean, I
7:57
just based on based simply on history. He did
7:59
in two. Those and sixty it's pretty, hasn't
8:01
put any money and since then and I
8:03
just I don't see it happening. It hasn't
8:06
happened to date and this campaign. ah you
8:08
know it's hard to predict what's gonna happen,
8:10
but history is a bit of a guide.
8:12
Your. Financial.
8:15
Reporting on Trump trying to his old
8:17
cast of losses Supporters: those many of
8:19
them have changed for the financial aid
8:21
so needs any. These guys coming to
8:23
Veil now. When an
8:25
album bailing out of here in per se
8:28
but we're seeing here is that Donald Trump.
8:30
While he's been, he dove trying to figure
8:32
out how to handle all the legal issues,
8:34
posting a bar and whatnot. He's really been
8:37
cobbling together a very small group of wealthy
8:39
a Republican donors to help not only his
8:41
campaign, but a political action committees that pays
8:43
for Donald Trump legal bells and leave about
8:46
a month ago to pay about five million
8:48
dollars I'd done on Trump Away the legal
8:50
bells. And these are people like John Paul
8:52
Said, Rebecca Mercer, Robert Mercer, and him. And
8:55
many others and that's all kind of
8:57
cultivating into an of bad that set
8:59
to take place next month at Paulson
9:01
Home. And that tickets Here The top
9:04
ticket goes for over eight hundred thousand
9:06
dollars and that's being split into those
9:08
tickets between the campaign. We. Are
9:10
and see and the same packages alluded to
9:12
that pays for Donald Trump legal fees. So
9:14
this is where he's at right now. You
9:16
know you, you can I touch on this
9:18
before or whether or not he's going to
9:20
put money into his own campaign. I realize
9:22
it. A better question is why would he
9:24
would have to do that if is fund
9:26
raising a so strong? And the answer is
9:28
well, because it's fundraising really hasn't been that
9:30
strongly. lights and he's a gun have been
9:33
a cash crunch right now and he has
9:35
to raise money gnarly for a campaign for
9:37
president, but also through a path that pays
9:39
for his legal bills. It's a very,
9:41
very interesting and unique situation. Seven.
9:44
Or eight days. Is it a
9:46
bigger deal? That. Down Some is
9:48
only having supposed one hundred and
9:50
seventy five million dollars versus four
9:52
sixty four. Or. Is it a bigger
9:54
deal? That. So the first time ever
9:57
of former president three weeks and now.
9:59
Is Not. What's it for a criminal trial? I
10:02
think it is huge that we will have
10:04
a criminal trial of Donald Trump before the
10:06
election. Remember, we thought all was lost. But
10:08
I knew that Judge Marchand wasn't messing around,
10:11
that he wanted this thing to go. Remember,
10:13
he was the subject of attacks by Donald
10:15
Trump, saying that he's some radical Democrat, he's
10:17
biased. And you know, Marchand was
10:19
on it. He knew that these were all
10:22
stall tactics. And he repudiated Trump's lawyers in
10:24
court today, and it wasn't a good
10:26
look for them. So no, I think the biggest
10:28
deal today is the fact that he's going to
10:30
trial, and it's happening on April 15th,
10:32
a day that Trump may not have in his calendar,
10:34
because it's tax day. There you go. John,
10:37
any chance his lawyers will be successful in getting
10:39
a delay? I mean, that judge, he
10:41
was not happy. Well, Mr. Trump said on
10:44
the way out of the courthouse, they're going to appeal. That
10:46
appeal goes absolutely nowhere. A judge has
10:49
broad discretion in controlling his docket. So
10:51
I don't even think they're going to file an appeal. I don't even
10:53
think it would be in good faith. You know, when
10:57
Trump was first indicted in this case, he
10:59
said there would be death and destruction if
11:01
he really comes to trial. None
11:03
of that's second place. I think the criminal
11:05
justice system is going to play out. I
11:07
had occasion to talk at the ABA
11:09
conference in San Francisco a couple of
11:12
weeks ago, and I called Trump an
11:14
existential threat to the rule of law. But I think
11:16
the best way we can protect the rule of law,
11:18
and I think my friend Dave will agree, is to
11:21
make sure he gets a fair trial. Absolutely.
11:23
Suzanne, people like to dismiss this case,
11:25
though. They like to say, oh, like
11:28
it's just about hiding adultery, you know,
11:30
it's just about embarrassment. But
11:32
it's not. He is facing
11:34
allegations of criminally falsifying
11:36
records to hide information
11:38
from voters. I
11:41
think two things there. I think the reason that
11:43
people dismiss it is because it is a bit
11:45
of a novel approach to a law in order
11:47
to get it to a felony. There's a, he's
11:49
got, they've got a connect of emisteminer to it.
11:52
And we haven't seen something like that. It's not
11:55
very common anyways to do that. But I think
11:57
from the other point of view is it is
11:59
a very... compelling cinematic case
12:01
for a jury. As you
12:03
said, you've got a hush
12:05
money payment to an adult
12:07
film star in the final
12:10
weeks of a campaign. Arguably,
12:12
and Donald Trump will say it was for another reason
12:14
because he didn't want his wife to know, but
12:17
I think they plan to present evidence that
12:19
it was actually to sway the election. I
12:21
mean, these are the things that movies are
12:24
made of, and I think this is a
12:26
very sellable case to a jury. John,
12:30
excuse me, Brian, are any of
12:32
Donald Trump's big time backers phased
12:34
at all that he's facing
12:36
criminal charges that they could be backing
12:39
a guy that could be convicted? Does
12:41
this matter to that set? To
12:44
be honest, I really don't think they care. That was part
12:46
of the reporting that we did for this story. And
12:48
really, when you talk to people close to
12:51
many of these donors who are going to
12:53
this event at Paulson's home next
12:55
month, many of them just say that
12:58
they really don't care what some of
13:00
their money is going to help Donald
13:02
Trump's legal bills, or frankly, raising
13:04
money from other donors with the idea that
13:06
even those other people's money is going to
13:09
Trump's legal bills. And the reason is because
13:11
for these people, they
13:13
see this very differently. They see
13:15
the campaign and Donald Trump's legal
13:17
issues intertwined as one. And that
13:19
is really key here with how
13:21
Donald Trump's been raising money, not
13:24
just from large dollar donors, but also
13:26
from small dollar donors as well. And
13:28
it's been working with this group because
13:31
these people are just signing on with
13:33
that belief system. And that's another way
13:35
that he can raise money and pay
13:37
his legal fees all at the same
13:39
time. Don,
13:42
there's been reporting, Andrew Weissman said
13:44
it, that he can see divisions
13:46
within Donald Trump's defense team. Donald
13:49
Trump once asked you to represent him. It wasn't
13:51
something you wanted to do. What do you think
13:53
is happening with his team? Well,
13:55
I think now some of his lead lawyers
13:57
are very good lawyers. But. Even
14:00
now. I did and
14:03
I'm would disappear because I'm not goes
14:05
I think further but that's because I'm
14:07
not that foolish. but. Donald.
14:10
Trump. In this case,
14:12
in any white collar taste it's a
14:14
question of intense and there's no doubt
14:17
the payments were made and meet people
14:19
the government has to prove his criminal
14:21
intent and and it says something about
14:24
Michael Cohen If. The.
14:26
Jury finds Michael Cohen is not
14:28
telling the truth. Tell Trump will
14:30
be found not guilty and my
14:32
former officer for which I'm very
14:34
proud. Southern District of New York
14:36
Us Attorney's Office. They passed on
14:38
this case not only under Bill
14:40
Bar, but under the current Justice
14:42
Department's add. When Michael Cohen was
14:45
sentenced, my former colleagues wrote in
14:47
a sentencing memo that he pled
14:49
guilty to for serious crimes, lying
14:51
to Congress, lying to banks, and
14:53
tax evasion and they wrote in
14:55
a sentencing. Memo: This is not
14:57
a defense for this is the
14:59
Us Attorney's office said he says
15:01
he committed a series of crimes
15:03
quote each involving deception motivated by
15:06
personal greed and ambition. So he's
15:08
a defense lawyers dream to cross
15:10
examine. Damned. Aren't they
15:12
Were at a time of point out
15:14
I need to get your thoughts on
15:16
this new Florida law. Rhonda Santas sign
15:18
today banning social media for minors under
15:20
the age. Of fourteen. Look. And
15:22
a legal battle is the census up against now?
15:25
A big one because he deal with people who
15:27
have deep pockets and are going to fight this
15:29
in court. First off, welcome to the Free State
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just don't try to read what you want, get
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an abortion, or if you're Disney, say what's on
15:47
your mind. er. En Sand Organ live with their
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day and on! Thank you both so much
15:51
Suzanne, I'm Brian, I'm not letting mean just
15:53
yet. Of before we go
15:55
to break. And important,
15:57
know. You.
15:59
Know in a. They undersell. That's the truth matters,
16:01
but only if you hear it. There's
16:03
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only thing it is about. Our.
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Team carefully consider the reporters and
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the analysts we bring on every
16:25
night to explain what's happening. One
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go to try to get better
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and smarter. Second, Promise you
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this. Will. Keep elevating the
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truth and of fact. And
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16:38
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trading on the Nasdaq tomorrow. The big
17:23
question for the newly formed Trump Media
17:25
stop actually be worth billions of dollars
17:27
and will be enough to help and
17:30
posts is now hundred and seventy five
17:32
million dollar bonds to the Civil Fraud
17:34
penalty or about to find out for
17:36
more so Than and Brian are still
17:39
with us since and this acquisition com
17:41
base share price tags on Friday at
17:43
one point at last fourteen percent the
17:45
next day Trump Oh since I love
17:48
says social. In all caps, if
17:50
it's truly like Donald Trump, the
17:52
mean stock is being created right
17:54
before our eyes. What do you
17:56
make of this? Summer.
18:00
I'm not surprised by the fluctuations and who knows
18:02
where it will be six months from now. But
18:05
right now, this looks like a
18:07
pretty attractive play for him. His stake
18:10
in it, I
18:12
think tonight, was about $4 billion. That
18:16
could be worth not a lot six
18:18
months from now, but right now, it's
18:20
a lot of money. It's probably worth more
18:22
than his real estate to him. We'll
18:25
see where this goes. He's going to start
18:28
trading under DJT tomorrow on the NASDAQ. He's
18:31
not going to be able to sell
18:35
any of his position unless he gets some waivers
18:37
from the very friendly board that he has. I
18:39
don't think we're going to see it
18:41
necessarily used, who knows, but necessarily
18:44
used for the bond. But it's
18:46
a lot of money. He
18:50
might. I mean, this board, as
18:52
you said, it's his son. It's his closest
18:54
buddies. But Brian, it's
18:56
exactly what Trump wants. When
18:58
you look at where this thing could trade, it's
19:00
about the value of his brand, but not the
19:02
fundamentals. Because if you look at
19:05
the fundamentals, how on earth would this thing
19:07
be worth $3 billion? That would
19:09
imply a cash flow of more than $300 million. They
19:13
are not even remotely close to
19:15
that. Yeah, you're right. I mean,
19:17
the question is, once this thing starts trading
19:19
tomorrow on the NASDAQ, what exactly is going
19:21
to happen? Not only to the stock, but
19:23
as we start learning more about the company
19:25
itself, they're going to have to file to
19:27
the SEC. We're going to have to be
19:29
seeing more and more disclosures about investors. These
19:33
are things that this is what
19:35
happens when you go public. This
19:38
has happened before with Donald Trump, with a
19:40
variety of other companies. He's tried doing stuff
19:42
in the stock market before. Things
19:44
did not go so well at that time. It was years ago.
19:48
The reality is that there's still a long way
19:50
to go to figure out how much the company
19:52
is worth and what exactly is it going to
19:54
do and what's it going to mean
19:56
for shareholders. But it's really going to be a question of what
19:58
is it going to be for shareholders if Donald Trump
20:00
does find a way to get this waiver approved by
20:03
the board, and then how much is it going to
20:05
be worth? How much is that going to be worth
20:07
then, particularly to the shareholders role pro-Trump people from what
20:09
I've read? So, I just have to wonder, to your
20:11
point, what is this company really going to be worth?
20:13
And we'll find out in a matter of weeks based
20:16
on how this is going to play out in the
20:18
market and beyond. Yeah, if
20:20
Donald Trump dumps his position right into the
20:22
hands of his shareholders. Suzanne, when we talked
20:24
about who could be a lender to Trump,
20:27
right? Like what institution might lend against his
20:29
position in the stock? It
20:31
wasn't going to be a traditional insurance
20:33
company or a bank. The
20:36
person who would likely do it is
20:38
sort of a super rich financier
20:41
who would like to be a
20:43
famous kind of anti-woke guy, wouldn't
20:45
you say? That
20:49
could be one option, yes. We
20:53
could also see a bank forward, maybe not
20:55
one in New York, but I
20:57
can think of a few other options, but I think
20:59
somebody who would like some influence over him may
21:02
step up. Jeff, what
21:04
do you make of this guy, Jeff
21:06
Yass' involvement, right? His investment firm is
21:08
one of the biggest shareholders in this
21:10
SPAC vehicle that's being used to take
21:12
DJT public. He's also a huge investor
21:14
in TikTok, and we all know Trump
21:16
changed his tune on banning TikTok after
21:18
he met with Yass in Florida. He's
21:20
the richest guy in Pennsylvania. What can
21:22
you tell us? Well,
21:26
you know, this is somebody that's being, you
21:28
know, really actively involved in Republican politics over
21:30
the years. He's given like $40 million this
21:33
cycle, and he's the leading GOP donor. Meanwhile,
21:35
you know, he keeps on putting himself on
21:37
what he appears to be apparent coincidences in
21:39
a variety of different things involved in the
21:41
Republican Party and Donald Trump. Part
21:44
of those millions that he's been given to the
21:46
GOP have gone to a group called the Club
21:48
for Growth, which is actively pushing back on this
21:50
TikTok bill. You know, he's
21:52
an investor in the ByteDance. Meanwhile, the
21:54
parent company of TikTok and then,
21:56
you know, at the same time, you know,
21:58
Seskland International, a in December was
22:01
at that point an investor into digital
22:03
world acquisition, the company that really helped
22:06
the Trump media business to become public.
22:08
So it seems to be these strange
22:10
coincidences that keep on coming up. When
22:12
we talk to people near him, they
22:14
always push back and they say, Jeff
22:17
Yass is interested in dealing with these types
22:19
of things. He's more focused on education related
22:21
matters. But again, these things keep coming up
22:24
and at the very least it's kind of
22:26
odd and it seems to be continuing a
22:28
coincidence for a person who's giving millions of
22:30
dollars to the Republican party at this very time. Coincidence
22:33
or not. All right, Brian, new topic.
22:36
There's a huge management shakeup
22:38
at one of the most important companies in
22:40
the country in the world, Boeing. The CEO
22:42
stepping down at the end of the year,
22:44
also big changes happening on the board of
22:47
directors. Is this just the
22:49
beginning of a major cleanup at
22:51
this company after some major problems
22:53
have happened on his watch? And
22:55
in true CEO style, not being
22:57
fired, not being given
22:59
the off-ramp to step down. Well,
23:02
look, we've seen this though from Boeing before.
23:04
I mean, Dennis Muhlenberg, I believe that was
23:06
his name at the time, he had his
23:08
issues with some of these planes that were
23:10
created through Boeing. This has come
23:12
up before with the same company, just
23:15
a different instances. So I'm not
23:17
entirely sure what Boeing is going to do.
23:19
They've tried this approach before by pushing out
23:21
the CEO and things continue to
23:23
happen with this company involving safety
23:25
matters. And you know, look, people
23:28
have to feel comfortable and safe
23:30
flying. That is paramount to Boeing's
23:32
business. But at the same time,
23:34
the company really hasn't really been
23:36
doing anything other than this kind
23:38
of two-step dance of forcing out executives.
23:41
So it's really completely clear what exactly
23:43
Boeing should do any differently this time
23:45
than they've done in years past
23:47
and recent years past in fact. All
23:50
right then, Brian, Suzanne, thank you both
23:52
so much. We have also been following
23:54
the news that federal agents raided two
23:57
residences of media mogul Sean P Diddy
23:59
Combs earlier. earlier today, the search is
24:01
related to a New York trafficking
24:03
and sexual assault investigation of the
24:05
music producer. C. Patterson has those
24:07
details. Tonight,
24:10
the multiple homes of Sean Diddycombs
24:13
from coast to coast, raided by
24:15
federal homeland security investigations agents. Heavily
24:18
armed and armored tactical teams sweeping through
24:20
Combs' posh Los Angeles property this afternoon,
24:22
guns drawn, clearing room to room, people
24:24
in handcuffs as agents made their way
24:26
through the property. A similar scene playing
24:29
out in Diddy's homes more than 2,000
24:31
miles away on Miami's Star Island,
24:34
where several celebrities including Gloria and
24:36
Emilio Estefan and Jennifer Lopez also
24:39
have homes. The fact that
24:41
Diddy's home was raided means that
24:43
agents for homeland security were able
24:45
to show probable cause that a
24:47
crime was committed and that evidence
24:49
of that alleged crime would be
24:52
found at these homes. Which
24:55
is whereabouts right now unknown, but
24:57
multiple sources tell NBC News Diddy
24:59
was in the Miami area when
25:01
the searches began. The raids were
25:03
conducted by DHS on search warrants
25:05
originating from federal prosecutors in the
25:07
Southern District of New York. A
25:10
person familiar tells NBC News multiple
25:12
witnesses have been interviewed by prosecutors
25:14
and investigators in connection with the
25:16
case. The speed at which it
25:18
appears these raids were conducted suggests
25:20
that agents were concerned that they
25:23
needed to secure evidence quickly and
25:25
prevent anyone from destroying evidence before
25:27
they got there. It's
25:29
the latest in a legal firestorm
25:31
surrounding the 54-year-old music mogul with
25:34
multiple lawsuits alleging sexual assault, abuse,
25:36
harassment, forced drugging and the distribution
25:38
of illegal firearms and narcotics. The
25:40
allegations began last year with Combs'
25:43
ex-partner R&B singer Cassie filing a
25:45
lawsuit in New York. She was
25:47
seeking $30 million alleging
25:49
physical and sexual abuse as
25:51
well as sex trafficking. They
25:53
settled for an undisclosed amount.
25:55
Several other women came forward
25:57
with similar accusations. for
26:00
Combs did not immediately respond to
26:02
NBC's request for comment. Thank
26:06
you, Steve Patterson, for that report. When
26:08
we come back, the government shutting down.
26:10
Well, that crisis was averted Friday night,
26:13
but guess what? The problems are only
26:15
getting bigger for Speaker Johnson.
26:17
White anchor is bubbling up from the right flank
26:20
of his party. And what's going to happen
26:22
next when the 11th hour continues? Speaker
26:30
Johnson, who's barely been a speaker for
26:33
six months, led us to a complete catastrophe.
26:35
Speaker Johnson, I've been public about this, made
26:37
a mistake when he walked away from the
26:39
bipartisan caps and a CR that could have
26:41
put pressure on my Democratic colleagues. But I
26:43
can promise you, if you put a Ukraine
26:45
bill on the floor and you haven't secured
26:47
the border, there's going to be a problem
26:50
within the ranks on Capitol Hill.
26:55
If you could not already tell, Republicans
26:57
are not happy with House Speaker Mike
26:59
Johnson and they are putting him on
27:02
notice. Marjorie Taylor Greene filed a motion
27:04
to vacate against Johnson after he negotiated
27:06
a spending bill with Democrats
27:08
to avert a government shutdown last Friday.
27:11
But the real fight could be in
27:13
the weeks ahead. The House Foreign Affairs
27:15
Chair says he expects Johnson will finally
27:17
bring a Ukraine aid bill to the
27:20
floor after Easter. For more, let's bring
27:22
in NBC News Washington correspondent Yamiche Alcindor
27:24
and Stuart Stevens, a veteran of the
27:26
Mitt Romney and George W. Bush presidential
27:28
campaigns. He is now with the Lincoln
27:30
Project. Yamiche, let's start with
27:32
the Republican fury towards Johnson. I just played
27:34
a little bit of it, but what have
27:36
you heard? Well,
27:39
what we've heard is that there are
27:41
Republicans mainly in the far right sort
27:44
of freedom caucus wing of the party
27:46
that are very angry that Speaker Johnson
27:48
had Democrats help him to continue to
27:50
fund the government. What we're seeing here
27:52
is now Marjorie Taylor Greene saying that
27:55
she's filing this as a, quote,
27:57
pink flip. She said it's a warning.
28:00
not a pink flip rather, saying that it's
28:02
not exactly time right now to maybe choose
28:04
a new speaker but that Republicans should start
28:06
thinking about this. So what you really see
28:09
are Republicans who don't want to be compromising
28:11
with Democrats really aiming their fury at the
28:13
speaker. And you heard Chip Roy there saying
28:15
the next bill, which of course could be
28:17
this Ukraine aid package, if Speaker Johnson puts
28:20
that on the floor, then Republicans are going
28:22
to have yet another sort of battle
28:25
here. What we're really seeing is a
28:27
number of Republicans repeating what we saw
28:29
with Kevin McCarthy. It feels like deja
28:31
vu in that you have a conference
28:33
that has control of the House, but
28:35
in reality there's very little that they
28:37
agree upon in a way that they
28:39
can actually move forward with legislation. So
28:43
we're barely 100 Republicans in support
28:45
of this bill. A majority of the conference voted
28:47
against it. What does that tell you? Well
28:51
I think it's a non-governing caucus. You
28:54
know this is part of a minority rule
28:56
phenomenon here. Most Americans support funding
28:59
the government. They don't want it to shut down.
29:02
Most Americans, more than not,
29:04
support funding Ukraine. And
29:06
yet there's still this sort of element
29:08
of Republican politics that's trying to sort
29:10
the majority. And you
29:12
know everything else that this Congress does is
29:15
just going to be completely incidental to
29:17
what they do with Ukraine. I mean
29:20
this is a generational vote. President
29:22
Romney called it I think the most important vote that the Senate
29:25
was going to take for 20 years. And
29:27
I don't think that's an underestimate of what it means
29:29
to democracy, what it means to Western Europe, and what
29:32
it means to America's place in the world. I
29:35
want to talk about something else. Marjorie Taylor Greene
29:37
and these other, I don't know, 30 or
29:41
so extreme Republicans, it seems that they
29:43
have this choke hold on the GOP
29:45
or they have for the better part
29:47
of the last year. But
29:50
their grip also seems like it's slipping.
29:52
I want to share what former Republican
29:54
Congressman Trey Gowdy said this weekend because
29:56
this guy is fired up. If
30:00
you're wondering why you're trying to
30:02
negotiate against Chuck Schumer and Joe
30:05
Biden, it's because Republicans can't pick
30:07
the right candidate and they can't
30:09
win elections. They got nobody to
30:11
blame but themselves for picking the
30:13
wrong candidates, running bad races and
30:15
losing winnable elections. What person
30:17
that can pass a competency test would want
30:19
to be the Speaker of the House? You
30:22
had a Speaker. Remember, you had
30:24
Kevin McCarthy and you wanted to get rid of
30:26
him. Stuart,
30:28
what do you think about that? I
30:31
think Trey Gowdy is a very odd-looking
30:33
person who seems to be speaking passionately
30:35
here about
30:39
a party that he was part of and he helped
30:41
build. But look, he's
30:43
right. This is a completely dysfunctional
30:46
party. And at the root of it is,
30:48
what do they believe in? The
30:51
party exists now to beat Democrats. And
30:53
I've said this before, this isn't an
30:55
organizing principle for a political party. It's
30:57
like what cartels are. Why
30:59
does OPEC exist? It exists to sell
31:02
oil. No one says, what is the
31:04
higher purpose of it? And that's really
31:06
what the party crumbled into. Stuart,
31:11
you never cease to entertain me. You're a
31:14
media issue. We are watching this sort of
31:16
great resignation unfold among House Republicans. But over
31:18
in the Senate, something different.
31:20
Lisa Murkowski signaling she
31:23
might leave her party altogether. What do we know
31:25
about this? It's
31:27
really interesting. You have Senator Murkowski saying
31:29
very clearly that she is not
31:32
happy with the fact that the Republican Party
31:34
has become the party of Trump. She was
31:36
clear that she does not want to vote
31:39
and will not vote for Donald Trump, even
31:41
though he is now the Republican nominee. And
31:43
in some ways, Lisa Murkowski, along with other
31:45
names like Susan Collins, even though Susan Collins
31:48
is signaling the same thing, is she's already
31:50
been someone who is already independent minded. She
31:52
was always someone that we were looking to
31:54
in the Senate to vote differently at times
31:57
from Republicans. So in some cases, it's not a good thing. It's a
31:59
good thing. ways it's not surprising that
32:01
she's saying, I want to take one step further
32:04
and be independent, even though of course it's surprising
32:06
in the fact that the Senate
32:08
at all, that the Senate continues
32:10
to be this place where you have a very
32:12
small majority, either one way or the other, much
32:15
like the House, but in the Senate it's even,
32:17
it's even tighter in some ways, which
32:20
is why we watch all these races so closely. So
32:22
I think Lisa Murkowski is really, she's
32:24
voicing an opinion that is saying
32:26
she's upset with Donald Trump. But the thing
32:28
that to me is so interesting is that she
32:30
still seems to be in the minority when it
32:32
comes to sort of the way that the party
32:34
functions. When we think of sort of the fact
32:36
that Donald Trump could still beat out all of
32:38
these Republicans to become the party nominee,
32:40
the fact that we've talked of voters, when
32:42
I talked of voters, Republican voters, while they
32:45
might not like Donald Trump's brashness and other
32:47
things, the majority of them gave
32:49
them almost a clean sleeve, not exactly a clean
32:51
sleeve, but pretty much a clean, a clean sleep
32:53
when you think about the primary, she was able
32:55
to just win one after the other and how
32:57
he was able to do away with all
32:59
of his competitors. So Lisa Murkowski, she
33:01
is signaling, I think in some ways that
33:03
there is a frustration within the establishment Republicans
33:05
that are just bubbling up more and more.
33:08
But in reality, it's some ways the party
33:10
left Lisa Murkowski more than the Lisa Murkowski
33:12
is leaving the party. Damn,
33:15
we're going to leave it there. Yamiche, Stuart, thank you.
33:18
No, I can't even have a straight face
33:20
looking at Stuart after his comments. When
33:22
we come back, why Russian media
33:25
is now blaming Ukraine for
33:27
that deadly concert attack in
33:29
Moscow. Former ambassador to Ukraine,
33:31
Bill Taylor, joins us, Leland.
33:42
Russia is so reeling from the terrorist attack that
33:44
killed more than 130 people
33:47
at a concert hall last week. US
33:49
officials say it was ISIS and ISIS
33:51
and ISIS. The Afghan branch of the
33:53
terror group, they claimed responsibility. But over
33:56
the weekend, Russian media began pointing the
33:58
finger at Ukraine. Ukraine
34:00
strongly denies. My colleague Matt Bradley
34:02
has the details. Tonight,
34:05
Moscow mourns. As eyewitnesses tell the world
34:07
about the horrors they endured. I honestly
34:10
thought it was a firecracker, said this
34:12
survivor. But these crackles, they were like
34:16
this. They weren't stopping. They were
34:18
screaming, panic. Gunmen
34:20
went on a rampage through a concert hall Friday,
34:24
shooting, throwing bombs, and dousing the building
34:26
with a flammable liquid. Witnesses said at
34:28
least 137 people were killed. They were just walking
34:30
and gunning down
34:33
everyone, methodically in silence, said this survivor.
34:37
Tonight, Russian President Vladimir Putin
34:39
saying radical Islamists were to
34:41
blame. Over the weekend,
34:43
Putin had blamed Ukraine for trying
34:45
to help the terrorists escape, something
34:47
Ukraine denied. ISIS claimed
34:50
responsibility for the attack. The U.S.
34:52
says the group is an Afghan-based
34:54
affiliate called ISIS-K. ISIS-K
34:56
was responsible for a suicide bombing that
34:58
killed 13 U.S. troops and more than
35:00
180 Afghans during the
35:02
chaotic American withdrawal from Afghanistan. The
35:05
four accused gunmen in Friday's terror attack, all
35:08
of them, Tajik nationals, were caught by police.
35:11
Two of the four pled guilty. All
35:13
looked beaten and battered. Videos of
35:15
what appeared to be brutal interrogations
35:17
airing on Russian government-backed news channels.
35:22
William Taylor, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine,
35:24
joins me now. He is also the
35:26
United States Institute of Peace vice president
35:28
for Russia and Europe. Ambassador,
35:30
we need your help on this one. Vice
35:32
President Harris says there is no evidence Ukraine
35:35
had anything to do with this attack. Is
35:37
this just a cynical opportunity for Putin, or
35:39
is he trying to cover for
35:42
the fact that Russian intelligence failed so
35:44
badly? Russian
35:46
intelligence did fail badly, Stephanie. You're
35:48
exactly right. And
35:51
it turns out, of course, that we
35:53
had provided them information. We had provided
35:55
the Russians intelligence on this attack, which
35:57
they chose to ignore. Indeed,
36:00
President Putin, I should say Vladimir Putin, we all
36:03
thought he was a president anymore, Vladimir
36:05
Putin mocked us for
36:07
providing that information. It didn't
36:09
react. It didn't change anything.
36:11
They didn't protect that concert.
36:15
And they've now regretted that. Something
36:18
a lot of people don't know
36:21
much about, why would Russia
36:23
be a target for ISIS? Can you explain
36:25
that to us? The
36:28
main reason is the Russians have
36:30
oppressed Muslim people, mainly
36:33
Syria, but even
36:35
before that Chechnya. There are two
36:37
Chechen wars that the Russians fought
36:39
against the Chechens. And
36:41
again, in Syria, they have been
36:45
ruthless, horrible, and
36:48
massacres, and bombs, and poisonings
36:51
of Muslim people. So the
36:53
Muslims have a lot of reason to
36:56
hate the Russians. Let's
36:59
actually talk about what's really happening
37:01
in and with Ukraine. Kyiv was
37:03
hit with a barrage of missiles over
37:05
the weekend. What's the situation on the ground like
37:07
there? So
37:09
it's not good. It's not good. You've
37:12
been reporting on what's going on here in the
37:14
United States about this vote to
37:16
provide the Ukrainians with the supplies they need,
37:19
the weapons they need, the ammunition they need,
37:22
the counter missiles, the fence missiles
37:24
that they need. And
37:27
that's held up, and that's having an effect. I
37:29
was there a week and a half ago. I
37:32
saw it on the faces of Ukraine, all
37:35
of the Ukrainians I talked to, they
37:37
want to believe that we're going to be
37:39
there. We've been there for them. They're so
37:41
appreciative of what we've done in the past,
37:43
but they're really worried because they don't see
37:45
it moving. And
37:48
the Russians are taking advantage of this
37:50
pause in assistance that we're providing.
37:53
The Russians, as we see, you've
37:55
reported, are taking back little by
37:57
little some territory from the U.S.
38:00
Ukrainians. The Ukrainians had pushed the Russians out
38:02
and now the Russians are pushing back because
38:04
they don't have the ammunition. Well,
38:06
there are these reports that
38:09
Speaker Mike Johnson may bring
38:11
a vote right after Easter
38:13
around aid to Ukraine, you know, when
38:15
they all get back. Does that give you hope that
38:18
aid will resume? It
38:20
does. It absolutely does. There
38:22
are a lot of different ways that the speaker
38:24
can bring this vote to the
38:27
floor. And just
38:29
like in the Senate, where it passed 70 to 29, 70 to 29,
38:32
we don't get many of those kind of votes these
38:35
days. And so strong support. I think Stuart
38:37
mentioned in your earlier segment that there's strong
38:39
support in the United States as well as
38:41
in the Congress, both the Senate and the
38:43
House, for this Ukraine package. So yes, when
38:47
the speaker finds a way to get it to
38:49
the floor, then I think it will pass and
38:52
the funds will then come to
38:54
the Pentagon and they'll be able to
38:57
buy more ammunition in order to restock
38:59
our own supplies so that we
39:01
can send more to Ukraine. What
39:04
is your reaction to how politicized aiding
39:06
Ukraine has become in the US? So
39:10
it's so interesting. The
39:12
Republicans are split. The Democrats
39:15
support it. But again, when
39:18
you say so politicized in the Senate, 70
39:21
to 29, that's a pretty
39:23
strong vote. Most of the Democrats
39:25
and 22 Republicans, that's a pretty
39:27
strong vote, which they would also get in the
39:29
House. So
39:31
this has to be put to a vote and
39:33
it will demonstrate that it's got bipartisan support. Well,
39:38
we will say, Ambassador, always good to see
39:40
you. You make us smarter every time you are
39:42
here. And if you're at home,
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do not go anywhere. Because when we come back, a
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major milestone for a New York
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a great way to kick off my celebration
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of 50 years because it was a Monday
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on March 25th exactly 50
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years ago that I walked through the doors
40:44
of NBC and began this career that
40:46
has delivered me to this point. The
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last thing before we go tonight
40:53
is an absolutely fabulous one. 50
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years of Chuck Scarborough. If you have lived in
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the New York City area anytime
41:00
in the last five decades, you
41:02
would recognize that voice anywhere. The
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iconic Anchorman, Chuck Scarborough. He celebrates
41:07
an incredible 50 years behind the
41:09
desk at WNBC today. The New
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York Times points out that Scarborough
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started on the job in 1974
41:16
and has covered blackouts
41:20
September 11th, COVID, seven mayors
41:22
and eight governors. The Empire
41:24
State Building is lit blue
41:26
tonight just in his honor.
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WNBC's Andrew Siff has a look
41:31
at this special day and
41:34
50 years of very important
41:36
television. Such
41:38
a civil New York City. He's talking
41:40
about the Empire State Building, but let's
41:43
face it. Chuck Scarborough could be talking
41:45
about his own place in the skyline.
41:47
I'm going to beat the view from
41:49
up here. It's astounding. Today the legendary
41:52
WNBC Anchorman celebrated 50 years
41:54
to the day he first walked through
41:56
the doors at Rockefeller Center. Good evening,
41:58
I'm Chuck Scarborough. This is News 3.
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center for the half century milestone celebrated
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with a visit to the empire state
42:04
building where he posed for pictures with
42:06
his family, his co workers and a
42:09
few with the bosses. He even got
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to visit the 103rd floor VIP deck
42:15
with co anchor Natalie Pascarella. Can you
42:17
move forward a little on a tour
42:19
of the art deco skyscraper. He sat
42:21
by statues on the iconic beam almost
42:24
feels like they're gonna talk to you.
42:26
That's bad, marveling how the workers built
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this tower in about one year.
42:31
It was a sounding people
42:33
engineering. Also an astounding feat.
42:35
Chuck's career spanning five decades,
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the longest continuous run of
42:39
any anchor in the tri
42:41
state area at
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a celebratory lunch with dozens of
42:46
colleagues at the Rainbow Room. Many
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spoke about what it's meant to
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work alongside a man synonymous with
42:52
news. He is a truly humble,
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kind, compassionate, loving and funny. It's
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not just an anchor in my
42:59
mind. He's a newsman and there's
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a difference because he's a masterful storyteller
43:03
to be in this building 30 rocks
43:05
for 50 years at the same job
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is an incredible accomplishment. It astounds me
43:09
that I'm still here. So I do.
43:11
I overwhelming feeling
43:14
it. Natalie,
43:17
Pat, David, I'm a super fan of all of
43:19
them for you at home. If you're not from
43:21
the New York area, if this didn't speak to
43:23
you, I'm really sorry.
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Sometimes when your host is from the
43:28
Garden State, she gets to pick the
43:30
stories. And tonight I am especially grateful
43:32
for Chuck Scarborough. We say it here all
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the time. Local news matters. New
43:38
Yorkers are especially lucky that we
43:40
have got the best for the
43:42
last 50 years. Congratulations, Chuck on
43:44
this phenomenal milestone. I can't wait
43:47
to watch you next.
43:49
And on that note, I wish you all a
43:51
very, very good night from all of our colleagues
43:54
across the networks of NBC News. Thanks for staying
43:56
up late. I will see you in New York
43:58
at the end of tomorrow. Time
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