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Donald Trump's bond reduced to $175 million in NY civil fraud case

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Donald Trump's bond reduced to $175 million in NY civil fraud case

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Donald Trump's bond reduced to $175 million in NY civil fraud case

Donald Trump's bond reduced to $175 million in NY civil fraud case

Tuesday, 26th March 2024
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into rewards. Tonight,

0:29

Donald Trump has a trial date

0:31

in the Hush Money case. Why

0:33

an appeals court reduced his massive

0:35

civil fraud bond. What's next for

0:37

the former president as his social

0:39

media company begins trading tomorrow? Then

0:42

Republican outrage grows at Mike Johnson

0:44

over the spending deal. What far-right

0:46

House members are saying about his

0:48

future. Plus Russia tries to

0:51

link the Moscow attack to Ukraine.

0:53

Kiev has denied playing any role.

0:55

Former ambassador to Ukraine, Bill Taylor,

0:57

is here as the 11th

0:59

hour gets underway on this Monday night.

1:06

Good evening. Once again, I'm Stephanie Ruhl live from

1:09

Miami, and we are now 225 days away

1:11

from the election. And

1:15

today was a pivotal day in

1:17

two courts for the twice impeached,

1:19

four times indicted ex-president, Donald J.

1:21

Trump. Today was his deadline to

1:23

come up with an over $460

1:26

million bond in his civil fraud trial.

1:28

Meanwhile, his defense team in the Hush

1:30

Money case had to explain to a

1:32

judge why they wanted to further delay

1:35

that trial. The day ended with

1:37

two rulings. One, ensuring that Trump will

1:39

be for the first president to stand

1:42

criminal trial. The other means that he

1:44

will be the first president required to

1:46

post a nine figure bond in a

1:49

fraud case. My colleague, Laura Jarrad, has

1:51

all the details. The

1:54

last minute, an appeals court reducing the

1:56

bond in his civil fraud case by

1:58

more than half to. One Hundred and

2:00

Seventy Five Million Dollars. The trial judge

2:03

had said it at more than Four

2:05

Hundred and Fifty million. Mister. Trump

2:07

praising the ruling. If they

2:09

do is a zoo. elections as a earth was

2:11

his court cases and or let's try a tie

2:13

him up as a sick as much of his

2:16

money as possible. With. No lenders willing to

2:18

covered the staggering penalty while he

2:20

appeals Mister Trump the facing the

2:22

prospect of New York's Attorney General

2:24

seizing his iconic properties and bank

2:26

accounts as soon as today. But.

2:29

Now has ten days to come up

2:31

with the far smaller bond, Mister Trump

2:33

saying he has the cast and with.

2:36

Press by embassies, garrett hate and

2:38

all the often or much for

2:40

so it's not a a business

2:43

and the senses but. The

2:46

court found Mister Trump falsely inflated

2:49

the values as properties to get

2:51

banks to give better loan term.

2:53

His attorneys are appealing saying there

2:55

were no victims that the banks

2:57

were repaid, but today, New York

2:59

Attorney General Letitia James highlighted the

3:01

former President, is still on the

3:03

hook City ultimately lose his appeal.

3:06

Saying. Donald Trump is still

3:08

facing accountability for his staggering fraud

3:10

the four hundred and sixty four

3:12

million dollar judgment plus interest against

3:15

Donald Trump and other descendants still

3:17

stance. Meanwhile. The presumptive

3:19

G O P nominee sat stone

3:21

faced in a different courtroom today,

3:24

receiving a serious setback. A. Judge

3:26

in Manhattan, setting a new date of

3:28

April fifteenth for the first ever criminal

3:30

trial of a former President. Facing.

3:33

Charges of doctoring has companies records

3:35

to cover up an alleged affair

3:37

before the Twenty Sixteen election. Mister

3:39

Trump's legal team today failed to

3:41

convince the judge from delaying the

3:43

trial any further. And. On I you

3:46

can have a trial. Is

3:48

going on right the middle of an election? Not

3:50

fair. Some.

3:52

says he would have no problem testifying

3:54

in the house when a criminal trial

3:57

he also says he will post the

3:59

now reduced hundred and seventy million bond

4:01

very quickly within the next 10 days.

4:04

With that, let's get smarter with the

4:06

help of our lead-off panel this evening.

4:08

Suzanne Craig is here, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative

4:11

reporter for The New York Times. She's

4:13

reported on Donald Trump's finances for years.

4:15

Brian Schwartz joins us, CNBC political finance

4:18

reporter. Dave Arenberg is here, state attorney

4:20

for Palm Beach County, and Watergate assistant

4:22

prosecutor John Sale. He's a former federal

4:24

prosecutor, having served in the Southern District

4:27

of New York. Dave, I

4:29

am in your home state, so you get to go

4:31

first. Many people were

4:33

surprised when the New

4:35

York appeals court reduced Trump's

4:37

bond. But he sells it by $175 million, and

4:39

if he loses the appeal, another $285 million. What's

4:44

your take? I was surprised,

4:46

too, because he went and said on

4:48

social media that I've got the money,

4:50

over $500 million. And

4:52

the court still listened to his

4:54

lawyers instead of the client and allowed him

4:57

to reduce the amount significantly and get an

4:59

extra 10 days. So I was surprised.

5:01

And you know, the criminal justice system is not

5:03

as transparent as it should be, especially in New

5:05

York, where they don't allow cameras in the courtroom,

5:07

and you have this appellate court who didn't even

5:09

explain their ruling. You'd think this would be the

5:11

one case where they'd want to tell the public

5:13

why they did what they did. That's

5:15

what I thought was so interesting. It was this

5:17

two-page ruling with no reasoning, John. What do you

5:19

think? Well, it's not a criminal case.

5:21

It's a civil case. But I think

5:23

they did the attorney general a favor,

5:25

because the attorney general's office is not

5:27

in the business of seizing office buildings.

5:31

They're going to be mortgaged. You have to pay off the mortgages. The

5:34

commercial real estate market in New York is terrible.

5:36

$175 million is not chump change. And

5:39

there is still a special

5:41

monitor in place. So neither

5:44

Trump nor his relatives can encumber

5:46

or dissipate any of the assets. So

5:49

I think the attorney general has accomplished what

5:51

she wants, and the public has secured. And

5:53

now let the appeal take its course. Suzanne,

5:56

he's got this extra 10 days. He says

5:58

he's got the money. No problem. saying it

6:00

quickly, two questions. Do you think he

6:02

has the money? And number two,

6:05

he's also saying he's now going to fund his

6:07

campaign. He didn't do it last time. Why did

6:09

we think this time will be different? Well,

6:12

let me start with the first one, which is

6:15

I do think he has the money and I

6:17

think he'll post this soon because it's clocking interest.

6:20

He's been given 10 days. I think we

6:22

may see it post before, but I

6:24

think he can do this. And it was interesting

6:27

as I was surprised to see

6:29

the appeals court come through on

6:31

this. Thursday was when we thought

6:33

they would rule and that's when

6:35

they normally rule and it came

6:38

and it went. And then Friday

6:40

afternoon, he did, he came out and

6:42

said, I've kind of got the 500 million.

6:45

So that's

6:48

buster in the background. So

6:50

yeah, I was surprised to see it this morning,

6:53

but it's still short.

6:55

And there's sort of people, I think

6:57

rightly sort of wondering if there are

6:59

two, two forms of justice

7:01

here, one for Donald Trump and one for the

7:03

rest of us. It's

7:07

less than half of what we thought he

7:09

would have to post, but it's still a

7:11

lot of money. And I also wonder the

7:13

appeals court, it was frustrating that

7:15

they didn't give any reason why, but I, one

7:17

of the reasons, you know, I keep thinking about

7:19

is just if Donald Trump had had to post

7:22

$500 million, you know,

7:24

what that would have done to the

7:26

Trump organization, depending on the assets that

7:28

Letitia James decided to go after. She

7:31

went after all of his cash. It

7:33

could have just wiped out his payroll

7:35

and his ability to,

7:37

to service his debt.

7:39

All right. Then given that's his

7:41

cash position, given how well you know

7:44

his finances and him being

7:46

an honest broker, you believe

7:48

he's going to fund his own campaign. I

7:50

can't even keep it straight. Well,

7:53

yeah, that's a separate question. I don't think we're

7:55

going to see that coming up. I mean, I

7:57

just based on based simply on history. He did

7:59

in two. Those and sixty it's pretty, hasn't

8:01

put any money and since then and I

8:03

just I don't see it happening. It hasn't

8:06

happened to date and this campaign. ah you

8:08

know it's hard to predict what's gonna happen,

8:10

but history is a bit of a guide.

8:12

Your. Financial.

8:15

Reporting on Trump trying to his old

8:17

cast of losses Supporters: those many of

8:19

them have changed for the financial aid

8:21

so needs any. These guys coming to

8:23

Veil now. When an

8:25

album bailing out of here in per se

8:28

but we're seeing here is that Donald Trump.

8:30

While he's been, he dove trying to figure

8:32

out how to handle all the legal issues,

8:34

posting a bar and whatnot. He's really been

8:37

cobbling together a very small group of wealthy

8:39

a Republican donors to help not only his

8:41

campaign, but a political action committees that pays

8:43

for Donald Trump legal bells and leave about

8:46

a month ago to pay about five million

8:48

dollars I'd done on Trump Away the legal

8:50

bells. And these are people like John Paul

8:52

Said, Rebecca Mercer, Robert Mercer, and him. And

8:55

many others and that's all kind of

8:57

cultivating into an of bad that set

8:59

to take place next month at Paulson

9:01

Home. And that tickets Here The top

9:04

ticket goes for over eight hundred thousand

9:06

dollars and that's being split into those

9:08

tickets between the campaign. We. Are

9:10

and see and the same packages alluded to

9:12

that pays for Donald Trump legal fees. So

9:14

this is where he's at right now. You

9:16

know you, you can I touch on this

9:18

before or whether or not he's going to

9:20

put money into his own campaign. I realize

9:22

it. A better question is why would he

9:24

would have to do that if is fund

9:26

raising a so strong? And the answer is

9:28

well, because it's fundraising really hasn't been that

9:30

strongly. lights and he's a gun have been

9:33

a cash crunch right now and he has

9:35

to raise money gnarly for a campaign for

9:37

president, but also through a path that pays

9:39

for his legal bills. It's a very,

9:41

very interesting and unique situation. Seven.

9:44

Or eight days. Is it a

9:46

bigger deal? That. Down Some is

9:48

only having supposed one hundred and

9:50

seventy five million dollars versus four

9:52

sixty four. Or. Is it a bigger

9:54

deal? That. So the first time ever

9:57

of former president three weeks and now.

9:59

Is Not. What's it for a criminal trial? I

10:02

think it is huge that we will have

10:04

a criminal trial of Donald Trump before the

10:06

election. Remember, we thought all was lost. But

10:08

I knew that Judge Marchand wasn't messing around,

10:11

that he wanted this thing to go. Remember,

10:13

he was the subject of attacks by Donald

10:15

Trump, saying that he's some radical Democrat, he's

10:17

biased. And you know, Marchand was

10:19

on it. He knew that these were all

10:22

stall tactics. And he repudiated Trump's lawyers in

10:24

court today, and it wasn't a good

10:26

look for them. So no, I think the biggest

10:28

deal today is the fact that he's going to

10:30

trial, and it's happening on April 15th,

10:32

a day that Trump may not have in his calendar,

10:34

because it's tax day. There you go. John,

10:37

any chance his lawyers will be successful in getting

10:39

a delay? I mean, that judge, he

10:41

was not happy. Well, Mr. Trump said on

10:44

the way out of the courthouse, they're going to appeal. That

10:46

appeal goes absolutely nowhere. A judge has

10:49

broad discretion in controlling his docket. So

10:51

I don't even think they're going to file an appeal. I don't even

10:53

think it would be in good faith. You know, when

10:57

Trump was first indicted in this case, he

10:59

said there would be death and destruction if

11:01

he really comes to trial. None

11:03

of that's second place. I think the criminal

11:05

justice system is going to play out. I

11:07

had occasion to talk at the ABA

11:09

conference in San Francisco a couple of

11:12

weeks ago, and I called Trump an

11:14

existential threat to the rule of law. But I think

11:16

the best way we can protect the rule of law,

11:18

and I think my friend Dave will agree, is to

11:21

make sure he gets a fair trial. Absolutely.

11:23

Suzanne, people like to dismiss this case,

11:25

though. They like to say, oh, like

11:28

it's just about hiding adultery, you know,

11:30

it's just about embarrassment. But

11:32

it's not. He is facing

11:34

allegations of criminally falsifying

11:36

records to hide information

11:38

from voters. I

11:41

think two things there. I think the reason that

11:43

people dismiss it is because it is a bit

11:45

of a novel approach to a law in order

11:47

to get it to a felony. There's a, he's

11:49

got, they've got a connect of emisteminer to it.

11:52

And we haven't seen something like that. It's not

11:55

very common anyways to do that. But I think

11:57

from the other point of view is it is

11:59

a very... compelling cinematic case

12:01

for a jury. As you

12:03

said, you've got a hush

12:05

money payment to an adult

12:07

film star in the final

12:10

weeks of a campaign. Arguably,

12:12

and Donald Trump will say it was for another reason

12:14

because he didn't want his wife to know, but

12:17

I think they plan to present evidence that

12:19

it was actually to sway the election. I

12:21

mean, these are the things that movies are

12:24

made of, and I think this is a

12:26

very sellable case to a jury. John,

12:30

excuse me, Brian, are any of

12:32

Donald Trump's big time backers phased

12:34

at all that he's facing

12:36

criminal charges that they could be backing

12:39

a guy that could be convicted? Does

12:41

this matter to that set? To

12:44

be honest, I really don't think they care. That was part

12:46

of the reporting that we did for this story. And

12:48

really, when you talk to people close to

12:51

many of these donors who are going to

12:53

this event at Paulson's home next

12:55

month, many of them just say that

12:58

they really don't care what some of

13:00

their money is going to help Donald

13:02

Trump's legal bills, or frankly, raising

13:04

money from other donors with the idea that

13:06

even those other people's money is going to

13:09

Trump's legal bills. And the reason is because

13:11

for these people, they

13:13

see this very differently. They see

13:15

the campaign and Donald Trump's legal

13:17

issues intertwined as one. And that

13:19

is really key here with how

13:21

Donald Trump's been raising money, not

13:24

just from large dollar donors, but also

13:26

from small dollar donors as well. And

13:28

it's been working with this group because

13:31

these people are just signing on with

13:33

that belief system. And that's another way

13:35

that he can raise money and pay

13:37

his legal fees all at the same

13:39

time. Don,

13:42

there's been reporting, Andrew Weissman said

13:44

it, that he can see divisions

13:46

within Donald Trump's defense team. Donald

13:49

Trump once asked you to represent him. It wasn't

13:51

something you wanted to do. What do you think

13:53

is happening with his team? Well,

13:55

I think now some of his lead lawyers

13:57

are very good lawyers. But. Even

14:00

now. I did and

14:03

I'm would disappear because I'm not goes

14:05

I think further but that's because I'm

14:07

not that foolish. but. Donald.

14:10

Trump. In this case,

14:12

in any white collar taste it's a

14:14

question of intense and there's no doubt

14:17

the payments were made and meet people

14:19

the government has to prove his criminal

14:21

intent and and it says something about

14:24

Michael Cohen If. The.

14:26

Jury finds Michael Cohen is not

14:28

telling the truth. Tell Trump will

14:30

be found not guilty and my

14:32

former officer for which I'm very

14:34

proud. Southern District of New York

14:36

Us Attorney's Office. They passed on

14:38

this case not only under Bill

14:40

Bar, but under the current Justice

14:42

Department's add. When Michael Cohen was

14:45

sentenced, my former colleagues wrote in

14:47

a sentencing memo that he pled

14:49

guilty to for serious crimes, lying

14:51

to Congress, lying to banks, and

14:53

tax evasion and they wrote in

14:55

a sentencing. Memo: This is not

14:57

a defense for this is the

14:59

Us Attorney's office said he says

15:01

he committed a series of crimes

15:03

quote each involving deception motivated by

15:06

personal greed and ambition. So he's

15:08

a defense lawyers dream to cross

15:10

examine. Damned. Aren't they

15:12

Were at a time of point out

15:14

I need to get your thoughts on

15:16

this new Florida law. Rhonda Santas sign

15:18

today banning social media for minors under

15:20

the age. Of fourteen. Look. And

15:22

a legal battle is the census up against now?

15:25

A big one because he deal with people who

15:27

have deep pockets and are going to fight this

15:29

in court. First off, welcome to the Free State

15:32

of Florida Rights! This is for the Sanders is

15:34

bran and now we have the strictest social media

15:36

lot on the box is gonna be in the

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courts or while so don't anticipate a things happen

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any time soon and we are free and Florida

15:42

just don't try to read what you want, get

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an abortion, or if you're Disney, say what's on

15:47

your mind. er. En Sand Organ live with their

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day and on! Thank you both so much

15:51

Suzanne, I'm Brian, I'm not letting mean just

15:53

yet. Of before we go

15:55

to break. And important,

15:57

know. You.

15:59

Know in a. They undersell. That's the truth matters,

16:01

but only if you hear it. There's

16:03

been a lot of news this weekend

16:06

about N B C. Hiring run

16:08

a Romney Mcdaniel. You. May have heard about

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it. But. Here's what I want you to

16:12

know. About. This so. I.

16:14

Can deeply. About. Facts

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are facts. Say it has been the

16:19

only thing it is about. Our.

16:21

Team carefully consider the reporters and

16:23

the analysts we bring on every

16:25

night to explain what's happening. One

16:27

go to try to get better

16:29

and smarter. Second, Promise you

16:31

this. Will. Keep elevating the

16:34

truth and of fact. And

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room he bringing on the smartest

16:38

and most trusted voices to do

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just that? None. Of

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the noise. Will be seen here. Will.

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17:21

trading on the Nasdaq tomorrow. The big

17:23

question for the newly formed Trump Media

17:25

stop actually be worth billions of dollars

17:27

and will be enough to help and

17:30

posts is now hundred and seventy five

17:32

million dollar bonds to the Civil Fraud

17:34

penalty or about to find out for

17:36

more so Than and Brian are still

17:39

with us since and this acquisition com

17:41

base share price tags on Friday at

17:43

one point at last fourteen percent the

17:45

next day Trump Oh since I love

17:48

says social. In all caps, if

17:50

it's truly like Donald Trump, the

17:52

mean stock is being created right

17:54

before our eyes. What do you

17:56

make of this? Summer.

18:00

I'm not surprised by the fluctuations and who knows

18:02

where it will be six months from now. But

18:05

right now, this looks like a

18:07

pretty attractive play for him. His stake

18:10

in it, I

18:12

think tonight, was about $4 billion. That

18:16

could be worth not a lot six

18:18

months from now, but right now, it's

18:20

a lot of money. It's probably worth more

18:22

than his real estate to him. We'll

18:25

see where this goes. He's going to start

18:28

trading under DJT tomorrow on the NASDAQ. He's

18:31

not going to be able to sell

18:35

any of his position unless he gets some waivers

18:37

from the very friendly board that he has. I

18:39

don't think we're going to see it

18:41

necessarily used, who knows, but necessarily

18:44

used for the bond. But it's

18:46

a lot of money. He

18:50

might. I mean, this board, as

18:52

you said, it's his son. It's his closest

18:54

buddies. But Brian, it's

18:56

exactly what Trump wants. When

18:58

you look at where this thing could trade, it's

19:00

about the value of his brand, but not the

19:02

fundamentals. Because if you look at

19:05

the fundamentals, how on earth would this thing

19:07

be worth $3 billion? That would

19:09

imply a cash flow of more than $300 million. They

19:13

are not even remotely close to

19:15

that. Yeah, you're right. I mean,

19:17

the question is, once this thing starts trading

19:19

tomorrow on the NASDAQ, what exactly is going

19:21

to happen? Not only to the stock, but

19:23

as we start learning more about the company

19:25

itself, they're going to have to file to

19:27

the SEC. We're going to have to be

19:29

seeing more and more disclosures about investors. These

19:33

are things that this is what

19:35

happens when you go public. This

19:38

has happened before with Donald Trump, with a

19:40

variety of other companies. He's tried doing stuff

19:42

in the stock market before. Things

19:44

did not go so well at that time. It was years ago.

19:48

The reality is that there's still a long way

19:50

to go to figure out how much the company

19:52

is worth and what exactly is it going to

19:54

do and what's it going to mean

19:56

for shareholders. But it's really going to be a question of what

19:58

is it going to be for shareholders if Donald Trump

20:00

does find a way to get this waiver approved by

20:03

the board, and then how much is it going to

20:05

be worth? How much is that going to be worth

20:07

then, particularly to the shareholders role pro-Trump people from what

20:09

I've read? So, I just have to wonder, to your

20:11

point, what is this company really going to be worth?

20:13

And we'll find out in a matter of weeks based

20:16

on how this is going to play out in the

20:18

market and beyond. Yeah, if

20:20

Donald Trump dumps his position right into the

20:22

hands of his shareholders. Suzanne, when we talked

20:24

about who could be a lender to Trump,

20:27

right? Like what institution might lend against his

20:29

position in the stock? It

20:31

wasn't going to be a traditional insurance

20:33

company or a bank. The

20:36

person who would likely do it is

20:38

sort of a super rich financier

20:41

who would like to be a

20:43

famous kind of anti-woke guy, wouldn't

20:45

you say? That

20:49

could be one option, yes. We

20:53

could also see a bank forward, maybe not

20:55

one in New York, but I

20:57

can think of a few other options, but I think

20:59

somebody who would like some influence over him may

21:02

step up. Jeff, what

21:04

do you make of this guy, Jeff

21:06

Yass' involvement, right? His investment firm is

21:08

one of the biggest shareholders in this

21:10

SPAC vehicle that's being used to take

21:12

DJT public. He's also a huge investor

21:14

in TikTok, and we all know Trump

21:16

changed his tune on banning TikTok after

21:18

he met with Yass in Florida. He's

21:20

the richest guy in Pennsylvania. What can

21:22

you tell us? Well,

21:26

you know, this is somebody that's being, you

21:28

know, really actively involved in Republican politics over

21:30

the years. He's given like $40 million this

21:33

cycle, and he's the leading GOP donor. Meanwhile,

21:35

you know, he keeps on putting himself on

21:37

what he appears to be apparent coincidences in

21:39

a variety of different things involved in the

21:41

Republican Party and Donald Trump. Part

21:44

of those millions that he's been given to the

21:46

GOP have gone to a group called the Club

21:48

for Growth, which is actively pushing back on this

21:50

TikTok bill. You know, he's

21:52

an investor in the ByteDance. Meanwhile, the

21:54

parent company of TikTok and then,

21:56

you know, at the same time, you know,

21:58

Seskland International, a in December was

22:01

at that point an investor into digital

22:03

world acquisition, the company that really helped

22:06

the Trump media business to become public.

22:08

So it seems to be these strange

22:10

coincidences that keep on coming up. When

22:12

we talk to people near him, they

22:14

always push back and they say, Jeff

22:17

Yass is interested in dealing with these types

22:19

of things. He's more focused on education related

22:21

matters. But again, these things keep coming up

22:24

and at the very least it's kind of

22:26

odd and it seems to be continuing a

22:28

coincidence for a person who's giving millions of

22:30

dollars to the Republican party at this very time. Coincidence

22:33

or not. All right, Brian, new topic.

22:36

There's a huge management shakeup

22:38

at one of the most important companies in

22:40

the country in the world, Boeing. The CEO

22:42

stepping down at the end of the year,

22:44

also big changes happening on the board of

22:47

directors. Is this just the

22:49

beginning of a major cleanup at

22:51

this company after some major problems

22:53

have happened on his watch? And

22:55

in true CEO style, not being

22:57

fired, not being given

22:59

the off-ramp to step down. Well,

23:02

look, we've seen this though from Boeing before.

23:04

I mean, Dennis Muhlenberg, I believe that was

23:06

his name at the time, he had his

23:08

issues with some of these planes that were

23:10

created through Boeing. This has come

23:12

up before with the same company, just

23:15

a different instances. So I'm not

23:17

entirely sure what Boeing is going to do.

23:19

They've tried this approach before by pushing out

23:21

the CEO and things continue to

23:23

happen with this company involving safety

23:25

matters. And you know, look, people

23:28

have to feel comfortable and safe

23:30

flying. That is paramount to Boeing's

23:32

business. But at the same time,

23:34

the company really hasn't really been

23:36

doing anything other than this kind

23:38

of two-step dance of forcing out executives.

23:41

So it's really completely clear what exactly

23:43

Boeing should do any differently this time

23:45

than they've done in years past

23:47

and recent years past in fact. All

23:50

right then, Brian, Suzanne, thank you both

23:52

so much. We have also been following

23:54

the news that federal agents raided two

23:57

residences of media mogul Sean P Diddy

23:59

Combs earlier. earlier today, the search is

24:01

related to a New York trafficking

24:03

and sexual assault investigation of the

24:05

music producer. C. Patterson has those

24:07

details. Tonight,

24:10

the multiple homes of Sean Diddycombs

24:13

from coast to coast, raided by

24:15

federal homeland security investigations agents. Heavily

24:18

armed and armored tactical teams sweeping through

24:20

Combs' posh Los Angeles property this afternoon,

24:22

guns drawn, clearing room to room, people

24:24

in handcuffs as agents made their way

24:26

through the property. A similar scene playing

24:29

out in Diddy's homes more than 2,000

24:31

miles away on Miami's Star Island,

24:34

where several celebrities including Gloria and

24:36

Emilio Estefan and Jennifer Lopez also

24:39

have homes. The fact that

24:41

Diddy's home was raided means that

24:43

agents for homeland security were able

24:45

to show probable cause that a

24:47

crime was committed and that evidence

24:49

of that alleged crime would be

24:52

found at these homes. Which

24:55

is whereabouts right now unknown, but

24:57

multiple sources tell NBC News Diddy

24:59

was in the Miami area when

25:01

the searches began. The raids were

25:03

conducted by DHS on search warrants

25:05

originating from federal prosecutors in the

25:07

Southern District of New York. A

25:10

person familiar tells NBC News multiple

25:12

witnesses have been interviewed by prosecutors

25:14

and investigators in connection with the

25:16

case. The speed at which it

25:18

appears these raids were conducted suggests

25:20

that agents were concerned that they

25:23

needed to secure evidence quickly and

25:25

prevent anyone from destroying evidence before

25:27

they got there. It's

25:29

the latest in a legal firestorm

25:31

surrounding the 54-year-old music mogul with

25:34

multiple lawsuits alleging sexual assault, abuse,

25:36

harassment, forced drugging and the distribution

25:38

of illegal firearms and narcotics. The

25:40

allegations began last year with Combs'

25:43

ex-partner R&B singer Cassie filing a

25:45

lawsuit in New York. She was

25:47

seeking $30 million alleging

25:49

physical and sexual abuse as

25:51

well as sex trafficking. They

25:53

settled for an undisclosed amount.

25:55

Several other women came forward

25:57

with similar accusations. for

26:00

Combs did not immediately respond to

26:02

NBC's request for comment. Thank

26:06

you, Steve Patterson, for that report. When

26:08

we come back, the government shutting down.

26:10

Well, that crisis was averted Friday night,

26:13

but guess what? The problems are only

26:15

getting bigger for Speaker Johnson.

26:17

White anchor is bubbling up from the right flank

26:20

of his party. And what's going to happen

26:22

next when the 11th hour continues? Speaker

26:30

Johnson, who's barely been a speaker for

26:33

six months, led us to a complete catastrophe.

26:35

Speaker Johnson, I've been public about this, made

26:37

a mistake when he walked away from the

26:39

bipartisan caps and a CR that could have

26:41

put pressure on my Democratic colleagues. But I

26:43

can promise you, if you put a Ukraine

26:45

bill on the floor and you haven't secured

26:47

the border, there's going to be a problem

26:50

within the ranks on Capitol Hill.

26:55

If you could not already tell, Republicans

26:57

are not happy with House Speaker Mike

26:59

Johnson and they are putting him on

27:02

notice. Marjorie Taylor Greene filed a motion

27:04

to vacate against Johnson after he negotiated

27:06

a spending bill with Democrats

27:08

to avert a government shutdown last Friday.

27:11

But the real fight could be in

27:13

the weeks ahead. The House Foreign Affairs

27:15

Chair says he expects Johnson will finally

27:17

bring a Ukraine aid bill to the

27:20

floor after Easter. For more, let's bring

27:22

in NBC News Washington correspondent Yamiche Alcindor

27:24

and Stuart Stevens, a veteran of the

27:26

Mitt Romney and George W. Bush presidential

27:28

campaigns. He is now with the Lincoln

27:30

Project. Yamiche, let's start with

27:32

the Republican fury towards Johnson. I just played

27:34

a little bit of it, but what have

27:36

you heard? Well,

27:39

what we've heard is that there are

27:41

Republicans mainly in the far right sort

27:44

of freedom caucus wing of the party

27:46

that are very angry that Speaker Johnson

27:48

had Democrats help him to continue to

27:50

fund the government. What we're seeing here

27:52

is now Marjorie Taylor Greene saying that

27:55

she's filing this as a, quote,

27:57

pink flip. She said it's a warning.

28:00

not a pink flip rather, saying that it's

28:02

not exactly time right now to maybe choose

28:04

a new speaker but that Republicans should start

28:06

thinking about this. So what you really see

28:09

are Republicans who don't want to be compromising

28:11

with Democrats really aiming their fury at the

28:13

speaker. And you heard Chip Roy there saying

28:15

the next bill, which of course could be

28:17

this Ukraine aid package, if Speaker Johnson puts

28:20

that on the floor, then Republicans are going

28:22

to have yet another sort of battle

28:25

here. What we're really seeing is a

28:27

number of Republicans repeating what we saw

28:29

with Kevin McCarthy. It feels like deja

28:31

vu in that you have a conference

28:33

that has control of the House, but

28:35

in reality there's very little that they

28:37

agree upon in a way that they

28:39

can actually move forward with legislation. So

28:43

we're barely 100 Republicans in support

28:45

of this bill. A majority of the conference voted

28:47

against it. What does that tell you? Well

28:51

I think it's a non-governing caucus. You

28:54

know this is part of a minority rule

28:56

phenomenon here. Most Americans support funding

28:59

the government. They don't want it to shut down.

29:02

Most Americans, more than not,

29:04

support funding Ukraine. And

29:06

yet there's still this sort of element

29:08

of Republican politics that's trying to sort

29:10

the majority. And you

29:12

know everything else that this Congress does is

29:15

just going to be completely incidental to

29:17

what they do with Ukraine. I mean

29:20

this is a generational vote. President

29:22

Romney called it I think the most important vote that the Senate

29:25

was going to take for 20 years. And

29:27

I don't think that's an underestimate of what it means

29:29

to democracy, what it means to Western Europe, and what

29:32

it means to America's place in the world. I

29:35

want to talk about something else. Marjorie Taylor Greene

29:37

and these other, I don't know, 30 or

29:41

so extreme Republicans, it seems that they

29:43

have this choke hold on the GOP

29:45

or they have for the better part

29:47

of the last year. But

29:50

their grip also seems like it's slipping.

29:52

I want to share what former Republican

29:54

Congressman Trey Gowdy said this weekend because

29:56

this guy is fired up. If

30:00

you're wondering why you're trying to

30:02

negotiate against Chuck Schumer and Joe

30:05

Biden, it's because Republicans can't pick

30:07

the right candidate and they can't

30:09

win elections. They got nobody to

30:11

blame but themselves for picking the

30:13

wrong candidates, running bad races and

30:15

losing winnable elections. What person

30:17

that can pass a competency test would want

30:19

to be the Speaker of the House? You

30:22

had a Speaker. Remember, you had

30:24

Kevin McCarthy and you wanted to get rid of

30:26

him. Stuart,

30:28

what do you think about that? I

30:31

think Trey Gowdy is a very odd-looking

30:33

person who seems to be speaking passionately

30:35

here about

30:39

a party that he was part of and he helped

30:41

build. But look, he's

30:43

right. This is a completely dysfunctional

30:46

party. And at the root of it is,

30:48

what do they believe in? The

30:51

party exists now to beat Democrats. And

30:53

I've said this before, this isn't an

30:55

organizing principle for a political party. It's

30:57

like what cartels are. Why

30:59

does OPEC exist? It exists to sell

31:02

oil. No one says, what is the

31:04

higher purpose of it? And that's really

31:06

what the party crumbled into. Stuart,

31:11

you never cease to entertain me. You're a

31:14

media issue. We are watching this sort of

31:16

great resignation unfold among House Republicans. But over

31:18

in the Senate, something different.

31:20

Lisa Murkowski signaling she

31:23

might leave her party altogether. What do we know

31:25

about this? It's

31:27

really interesting. You have Senator Murkowski saying

31:29

very clearly that she is not

31:32

happy with the fact that the Republican Party

31:34

has become the party of Trump. She was

31:36

clear that she does not want to vote

31:39

and will not vote for Donald Trump, even

31:41

though he is now the Republican nominee. And

31:43

in some ways, Lisa Murkowski, along with other

31:45

names like Susan Collins, even though Susan Collins

31:48

is signaling the same thing, is she's already

31:50

been someone who is already independent minded. She

31:52

was always someone that we were looking to

31:54

in the Senate to vote differently at times

31:57

from Republicans. So in some cases, it's not a good thing. It's a

31:59

good thing. ways it's not surprising that

32:01

she's saying, I want to take one step further

32:04

and be independent, even though of course it's surprising

32:06

in the fact that the Senate

32:08

at all, that the Senate continues

32:10

to be this place where you have a very

32:12

small majority, either one way or the other, much

32:15

like the House, but in the Senate it's even,

32:17

it's even tighter in some ways, which

32:20

is why we watch all these races so closely. So

32:22

I think Lisa Murkowski is really, she's

32:24

voicing an opinion that is saying

32:26

she's upset with Donald Trump. But the thing

32:28

that to me is so interesting is that she

32:30

still seems to be in the minority when it

32:32

comes to sort of the way that the party

32:34

functions. When we think of sort of the fact

32:36

that Donald Trump could still beat out all of

32:38

these Republicans to become the party nominee,

32:40

the fact that we've talked of voters, when

32:42

I talked of voters, Republican voters, while they

32:45

might not like Donald Trump's brashness and other

32:47

things, the majority of them gave

32:49

them almost a clean sleeve, not exactly a clean

32:51

sleeve, but pretty much a clean, a clean sleep

32:53

when you think about the primary, she was able

32:55

to just win one after the other and how

32:57

he was able to do away with all

32:59

of his competitors. So Lisa Murkowski, she

33:01

is signaling, I think in some ways that

33:03

there is a frustration within the establishment Republicans

33:05

that are just bubbling up more and more.

33:08

But in reality, it's some ways the party

33:10

left Lisa Murkowski more than the Lisa Murkowski

33:12

is leaving the party. Damn,

33:15

we're going to leave it there. Yamiche, Stuart, thank you.

33:18

No, I can't even have a straight face

33:20

looking at Stuart after his comments. When

33:22

we come back, why Russian media

33:25

is now blaming Ukraine for

33:27

that deadly concert attack in

33:29

Moscow. Former ambassador to Ukraine,

33:31

Bill Taylor, joins us, Leland.

33:42

Russia is so reeling from the terrorist attack that

33:44

killed more than 130 people

33:47

at a concert hall last week. US

33:49

officials say it was ISIS and ISIS

33:51

and ISIS. The Afghan branch of the

33:53

terror group, they claimed responsibility. But over

33:56

the weekend, Russian media began pointing the

33:58

finger at Ukraine. Ukraine

34:00

strongly denies. My colleague Matt Bradley

34:02

has the details. Tonight,

34:05

Moscow mourns. As eyewitnesses tell the world

34:07

about the horrors they endured. I honestly

34:10

thought it was a firecracker, said this

34:12

survivor. But these crackles, they were like

34:16

this. They weren't stopping. They were

34:18

screaming, panic. Gunmen

34:20

went on a rampage through a concert hall Friday,

34:24

shooting, throwing bombs, and dousing the building

34:26

with a flammable liquid. Witnesses said at

34:28

least 137 people were killed. They were just walking

34:30

and gunning down

34:33

everyone, methodically in silence, said this survivor.

34:37

Tonight, Russian President Vladimir Putin

34:39

saying radical Islamists were to

34:41

blame. Over the weekend,

34:43

Putin had blamed Ukraine for trying

34:45

to help the terrorists escape, something

34:47

Ukraine denied. ISIS claimed

34:50

responsibility for the attack. The U.S.

34:52

says the group is an Afghan-based

34:54

affiliate called ISIS-K. ISIS-K

34:56

was responsible for a suicide bombing that

34:58

killed 13 U.S. troops and more than

35:00

180 Afghans during the

35:02

chaotic American withdrawal from Afghanistan. The

35:05

four accused gunmen in Friday's terror attack, all

35:08

of them, Tajik nationals, were caught by police.

35:11

Two of the four pled guilty. All

35:13

looked beaten and battered. Videos of

35:15

what appeared to be brutal interrogations

35:17

airing on Russian government-backed news channels.

35:22

William Taylor, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine,

35:24

joins me now. He is also the

35:26

United States Institute of Peace vice president

35:28

for Russia and Europe. Ambassador,

35:30

we need your help on this one. Vice

35:32

President Harris says there is no evidence Ukraine

35:35

had anything to do with this attack. Is

35:37

this just a cynical opportunity for Putin, or

35:39

is he trying to cover for

35:42

the fact that Russian intelligence failed so

35:44

badly? Russian

35:46

intelligence did fail badly, Stephanie. You're

35:48

exactly right. And

35:51

it turns out, of course, that we

35:53

had provided them information. We had provided

35:55

the Russians intelligence on this attack, which

35:57

they chose to ignore. Indeed,

36:00

President Putin, I should say Vladimir Putin, we all

36:03

thought he was a president anymore, Vladimir

36:05

Putin mocked us for

36:07

providing that information. It didn't

36:09

react. It didn't change anything.

36:11

They didn't protect that concert.

36:15

And they've now regretted that. Something

36:18

a lot of people don't know

36:21

much about, why would Russia

36:23

be a target for ISIS? Can you explain

36:25

that to us? The

36:28

main reason is the Russians have

36:30

oppressed Muslim people, mainly

36:33

Syria, but even

36:35

before that Chechnya. There are two

36:37

Chechen wars that the Russians fought

36:39

against the Chechens. And

36:41

again, in Syria, they have been

36:45

ruthless, horrible, and

36:48

massacres, and bombs, and poisonings

36:51

of Muslim people. So the

36:53

Muslims have a lot of reason to

36:56

hate the Russians. Let's

36:59

actually talk about what's really happening

37:01

in and with Ukraine. Kyiv was

37:03

hit with a barrage of missiles over

37:05

the weekend. What's the situation on the ground like

37:07

there? So

37:09

it's not good. It's not good. You've

37:12

been reporting on what's going on here in the

37:14

United States about this vote to

37:16

provide the Ukrainians with the supplies they need,

37:19

the weapons they need, the ammunition they need,

37:22

the counter missiles, the fence missiles

37:24

that they need. And

37:27

that's held up, and that's having an effect. I

37:29

was there a week and a half ago. I

37:32

saw it on the faces of Ukraine, all

37:35

of the Ukrainians I talked to, they

37:37

want to believe that we're going to be

37:39

there. We've been there for them. They're so

37:41

appreciative of what we've done in the past,

37:43

but they're really worried because they don't see

37:45

it moving. And

37:48

the Russians are taking advantage of this

37:50

pause in assistance that we're providing.

37:53

The Russians, as we see, you've

37:55

reported, are taking back little by

37:57

little some territory from the U.S.

38:00

Ukrainians. The Ukrainians had pushed the Russians out

38:02

and now the Russians are pushing back because

38:04

they don't have the ammunition. Well,

38:06

there are these reports that

38:09

Speaker Mike Johnson may bring

38:11

a vote right after Easter

38:13

around aid to Ukraine, you know, when

38:15

they all get back. Does that give you hope that

38:18

aid will resume? It

38:20

does. It absolutely does. There

38:22

are a lot of different ways that the speaker

38:24

can bring this vote to the

38:27

floor. And just

38:29

like in the Senate, where it passed 70 to 29, 70 to 29,

38:32

we don't get many of those kind of votes these

38:35

days. And so strong support. I think Stuart

38:37

mentioned in your earlier segment that there's strong

38:39

support in the United States as well as

38:41

in the Congress, both the Senate and the

38:43

House, for this Ukraine package. So yes, when

38:47

the speaker finds a way to get it to

38:49

the floor, then I think it will pass and

38:52

the funds will then come to

38:54

the Pentagon and they'll be able to

38:57

buy more ammunition in order to restock

38:59

our own supplies so that we

39:01

can send more to Ukraine. What

39:04

is your reaction to how politicized aiding

39:06

Ukraine has become in the US? So

39:10

it's so interesting. The

39:12

Republicans are split. The Democrats

39:15

support it. But again, when

39:18

you say so politicized in the Senate, 70

39:21

to 29, that's a pretty

39:23

strong vote. Most of the Democrats

39:25

and 22 Republicans, that's a pretty

39:27

strong vote, which they would also get in the

39:29

House. So

39:31

this has to be put to a vote and

39:33

it will demonstrate that it's got bipartisan support. Well,

39:38

we will say, Ambassador, always good to see

39:40

you. You make us smarter every time you are

39:42

here. And if you're at home,

39:45

do not go anywhere. Because when we come back, a

39:47

major milestone for a New York

39:50

legend, we will celebrate

39:52

a half century of the

39:54

icon Chuck Scarborough, delivering news

39:56

to NYC in the 11th

39:58

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a great way to kick off my celebration

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of 50 years because it was a Monday

40:39

on March 25th exactly 50

40:41

years ago that I walked through the doors

40:44

of NBC and began this career that

40:46

has delivered me to this point. The

40:50

last thing before we go tonight

40:53

is an absolutely fabulous one. 50

40:56

years of Chuck Scarborough. If you have lived in

40:58

the New York City area anytime

41:00

in the last five decades, you

41:02

would recognize that voice anywhere. The

41:05

iconic Anchorman, Chuck Scarborough. He celebrates

41:07

an incredible 50 years behind the

41:09

desk at WNBC today. The New

41:12

York Times points out that Scarborough

41:14

started on the job in 1974

41:16

and has covered blackouts

41:20

September 11th, COVID, seven mayors

41:22

and eight governors. The Empire

41:24

State Building is lit blue

41:26

tonight just in his honor.

41:29

WNBC's Andrew Siff has a look

41:31

at this special day and

41:34

50 years of very important

41:36

television. Such

41:38

a civil New York City. He's talking

41:40

about the Empire State Building, but let's

41:43

face it. Chuck Scarborough could be talking

41:45

about his own place in the skyline.

41:47

I'm going to beat the view from

41:49

up here. It's astounding. Today the legendary

41:52

WNBC Anchorman celebrated 50 years

41:54

to the day he first walked through

41:56

the doors at Rockefeller Center. Good evening,

41:58

I'm Chuck Scarborough. This is News 3.

42:00

center for the half century milestone celebrated

42:02

with a visit to the empire state

42:04

building where he posed for pictures with

42:06

his family, his co workers and a

42:09

few with the bosses. He even got

42:11

to visit the 103rd floor VIP deck

42:15

with co anchor Natalie Pascarella. Can you

42:17

move forward a little on a tour

42:19

of the art deco skyscraper. He sat

42:21

by statues on the iconic beam almost

42:24

feels like they're gonna talk to you.

42:26

That's bad, marveling how the workers built

42:28

this tower in about one year.

42:31

It was a sounding people

42:33

engineering. Also an astounding feat.

42:35

Chuck's career spanning five decades,

42:37

the longest continuous run of

42:39

any anchor in the tri

42:41

state area at

42:44

a celebratory lunch with dozens of

42:46

colleagues at the Rainbow Room. Many

42:48

spoke about what it's meant to

42:50

work alongside a man synonymous with

42:52

news. He is a truly humble,

42:54

kind, compassionate, loving and funny. It's

42:56

not just an anchor in my

42:59

mind. He's a newsman and there's

43:01

a difference because he's a masterful storyteller

43:03

to be in this building 30 rocks

43:05

for 50 years at the same job

43:07

is an incredible accomplishment. It astounds me

43:09

that I'm still here. So I do.

43:11

I overwhelming feeling

43:14

it. Natalie,

43:17

Pat, David, I'm a super fan of all of

43:19

them for you at home. If you're not from

43:21

the New York area, if this didn't speak to

43:23

you, I'm really sorry.

43:25

Sometimes when your host is from the

43:28

Garden State, she gets to pick the

43:30

stories. And tonight I am especially grateful

43:32

for Chuck Scarborough. We say it here all

43:35

the time. Local news matters. New

43:38

Yorkers are especially lucky that we

43:40

have got the best for the

43:42

last 50 years. Congratulations, Chuck on

43:44

this phenomenal milestone. I can't wait

43:47

to watch you next.

43:49

And on that note, I wish you all a

43:51

very, very good night from all of our colleagues

43:54

across the networks of NBC News. Thanks for staying

43:56

up late. I will see you in New York

43:58

at the end of tomorrow. Time

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