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night. Good.

1:03

Evening. Once again, I'm Stephanie Role

1:05

and we are now two hundred

1:07

and eight days away from the

1:10

election and just four days away

1:12

from Donald Trump's first criminal trial.

1:14

Can you believe it? She was

1:16

accused of hiding hush money payments

1:18

to cover up his affair with

1:20

porn star Stormy Daniels. Trump has

1:22

pleaded not guilty and today Nbc

1:25

News obtained a list of potential

1:27

prosecution witnesses. It includes Stormy Daniels

1:29

also former Trump Fix or Michael

1:31

Cohen who prosecutors say. Helped funnel

1:33

the money and Hope Hicks former

1:36

Trump spokesperson who prosecutors say was

1:38

on phone calls with Trump and

1:40

Cohen right around the time of

1:43

those payments. The witness list has

1:45

other front Trump excuse me has

1:47

other former Trump organization employees. The

1:49

specific charge of course is falsifying

1:52

business records. Each of them thirty

1:54

four counts as a maximum penalty

1:56

of four years in prison and

1:58

five thousand and. We're fine Manhattan

2:01

Da album Bragg says his office

2:03

prosecutes charges like this all the

2:05

time near, Say, in fact, has

2:07

pursued that very charge more than

2:09

eleven thousand times over the last

2:11

ten years and for all too

2:13

easy. As heard about, this be

2:15

the least important of Trump's criminal

2:17

cases where there's a brand new

2:19

Axioms Ipsos poll out there that

2:22

found nearly two thirds of American

2:24

voters find these charges against Trump

2:26

at least somewhat serious. With that,

2:28

let's get smarter. was a. How

2:30

The War Leave Arsenal Some Msnbc All

2:32

stars. Peter Baker joins Us Shifa House

2:34

correspondents' to New York Times former Us

2:37

Attorney Joyce Fans who spent twenty five

2:39

years as a Federal prosecutor and like

2:41

a seal is here, Former Chairman of

2:43

the Republican National Committee and former Lieutenant

2:46

Governor of Maryland. You know him as

2:48

a co host of the Weekend right

2:50

here on M S Choice. What is

2:52

your reaction to this potential list of

2:55

prosecution witnesses who set out here? Will

2:59

you know what? Six out from me

3:01

stuff is the whole package? Because one

3:03

of the big questions here is whether

3:06

prosecutors will ask the jury to rely

3:08

on the testimony of Michael Cohen who

3:10

is someone who is known not to

3:12

tell the truth. He pled guilty to

3:14

charges related to that, and I think

3:17

we now concedes that does unlikely to

3:19

be the case that there are other

3:21

witnesses here who will be used to

3:23

corroborate Cohen testimony at every step of

3:25

the way for helped documents that they

3:28

can introduce. And so it's this total

3:30

package of witnesses. did I think

3:32

help for start to understand what prosecution's

3:34

case will look like. And

3:36

reminder Michael for those who say

3:39

let's send it was a guy.

3:41

He had an affair in the

3:43

science to protect his family, his

3:45

reputation, his wife. This is about

3:47

paying someone off to suppress information

3:49

that could impact voters ahead of

3:52

a presidential election. So who do

3:54

you want to hear from most.

3:57

So too are good god fearing christians

3:59

would have been having the affair in

4:01

the first place so we would even

4:03

be here now with weights the since

4:05

we're here and will set the conversation.

4:07

I think it's the end of. Make

4:10

a law that says see how

4:13

this did not keep it real.

4:15

But the reality of it is

4:17

you know, I do want to

4:19

hear on the detail of the

4:21

women who were involved in the

4:23

story. On I think there's still

4:26

a great deal of oh, sort

4:28

of backhanded discounting of. Our

4:30

their story, what happened to

4:32

them Ah, they were used

4:34

in this process by Trump

4:36

in many respects how they

4:38

were. You know. Bought.

4:41

All paid off our for their

4:43

silence because these two things. One,

4:45

he didn't want to know, his

4:47

wife didn't want his wife to

4:49

know who was at home nursing

4:51

their their their baby boy and

4:53

he didn't want all those wonderful

4:55

a christian evangelicals that he was

4:57

courting is courting in line to

4:59

about who he was arm and

5:01

then of course on the heels

5:04

of you know the access Hollywood

5:06

takes. This may have been just

5:08

too much so yeah I want

5:10

to hear. Their stories i would

5:12

be here are with stormy has to

5:14

say I wanna understand exactly how they

5:16

were pro so what they were told

5:19

because all of that to me and

5:21

enjoys would understand is critically for a

5:23

prosecutor sports prospective many so he the

5:26

man. With. Me: so you who he

5:28

is. So you how law firm

5:30

it's been? So you how he treats people.

5:33

Into so what he thinks a woman.

5:35

In this position. A little

5:37

of so you how he asserts his

5:40

power. Over. Them. thinking.

5:42

That one hundred thousand dollars on

5:44

hundred thirty thousand nine hundred fifty

5:46

thousand dollars would be enough to

5:48

shut them up because of his.

5:51

Illegal. Behavior. And then

5:53

in a very different scenario, Peter

5:55

sitting there as a descendant in

5:57

a criminal trial Is he on.

6:00

The net of power less. He

6:02

didn't have to be there for his

6:04

civil trials, he chose to show up

6:06

for this one. See has no choice

6:08

as his private life is put under

6:10

a microscope. Computer. Do

6:13

that. Trump wants to be there.

6:15

He will be the center of

6:17

attention. Every news truck, every camera

6:19

will be there. And it's humiliating

6:21

as that might be. Trump.

6:23

Is the originator of all news

6:25

is good news and shamelessness is

6:27

his superpower. Spear. He

6:30

wants to campaigners he says as long as

6:32

it on call you out of file all

6:34

news is good news basically your voice and

6:36

do not call your pet her father the

6:38

are calling a lot of other things in

6:40

this trial, none of which are very flattering.

6:42

Ah, and so in some ways you're right.

6:44

Obviously we can't be a pleasant thing that

6:46

the superior be accused of of of one

6:48

thing after another, particularly at a time when

6:50

you're trying to convince voters. Is Michael said,

6:52

ducks in the Republican base the you are

6:54

you know their champions. But other hand I

6:56

think you got a point. He does love

6:58

being center. Of attention does not be center

7:00

of the ship. He will take this as much

7:02

as show as he possibly can. He didn't want

7:05

to be about the facts with a loss, He

7:07

wants to be about the politics, He wants to

7:09

build a say to his voters. This is all

7:11

part of a scheme is all part of the

7:14

which nine. It's all political as on the you

7:16

do with a thing idea that could a be

7:18

his goal but up until now we haven't seen

7:20

him on trial for criminal charges been civil trials.

7:23

sleep it important slavishly resulted in and bird against

7:25

him and every single instance I believe but this

7:27

look similar trial the could actually. Deprive them of

7:29

liberties, and while he may want to make a

7:31

show of it, at the end of the day,

7:33

he faces the threat of being in prison as

7:36

a result of a conviction. Is he in fact

7:38

or can't convince During. My father

7:40

was impose soft a legal experts about

7:42

whether as a can't believe I'm I'm

7:44

I'm asking that how about whether it

7:47

can lift his cell is a felon

7:49

in the United States can service presence

7:51

and now So he said yes because

7:54

the constitution doesn't for minute. News.

7:56

Certainly are and see. Can. You

7:59

imagine. The leading the party

8:01

to a presidential election. Where.

8:03

There a legitimate chance that your nominee

8:06

will in fact be a cell and.

8:08

And. People don't seem to mind.

8:13

As a lot of all those

8:15

doesn't it doesn't deserve a lot

8:17

less about a party is it

8:19

does about us as citizens.weaving countenance

8:21

this right now and have put

8:24

put this man in the pole

8:26

position to be the next poses

8:28

and United States. Having him reading

8:30

and poll after poll is an

8:32

abomination is embarrassing in a sense

8:34

in some respects to me. So

8:37

the level of desperation that we

8:39

think that Donald Trump who's going

8:41

to somehow solve our problems. America's

8:43

never looked to one person to do that.

8:45

We've all covered done it together in the

8:47

past but that that that doesn't fit his

8:50

murder. So. It is. It

8:52

is disappointing in it is very

8:54

frustrating that our constitution on never

8:56

anticipated that individual who would be

8:58

in this position would have the

9:00

you know what the assay stop

9:02

and say you know what I'm

9:04

going to be That says the

9:06

United States. A

9:09

lot of embarrassment for his forehead was stop

9:12

you from doing it. But. There is

9:14

no saying there is no embarrassed will dissolve

9:16

thought. You. Know is is this is

9:18

all about him and I would really

9:20

hope that the media doesn't get carried

9:22

away here over the over the course

9:24

of the things. Countdown clocks in all

9:26

the other be as they go since

9:28

two leveling this of this is a

9:30

sobering moment for this country. Are

9:33

we need to treat it with the

9:35

with that level of dignity and respect

9:37

and and sort of yeah, humility. And

9:39

in fact, we should be embarrassed as

9:41

a country right now. We

9:43

find ourselves with this man as

9:46

a potential next president. Who's.

9:48

Going on trial for his criminal

9:51

conduct, An end to you

9:53

know why the been convicted and them Whether

9:55

we do they would we say. Saw.

9:57

I think we need to be very sobering this. The

10:00

time and not get caught up

10:02

in Donald Trump's crazy bar circus.

10:05

Ah that is all about him and you

10:07

know as long as it all go call

10:09

me a pedophile, it's good We you know

10:11

what I think the having these types the

10:13

tell suggests you as a former President. That's.

10:16

Worse in many respects because he is

10:18

look up to you. Families.

10:21

Rely on you and all you got to

10:23

show them as the backside of your hand.

10:25

So I think we need to be careful

10:27

about how we approach this week. And

10:29

the words of on a a Trump

10:31

be better to ice on There was

10:33

a pretty interesting piece out answers card

10:35

or is it was actually on his

10:38

program Last Nice is a former day

10:40

as a federal prosecutor. He writes for

10:42

Politico. He says there's a chance tons

10:44

legal team will try to get the

10:46

judge to good the jury the option

10:48

of convicting him on lesser charges, misdemeanor

10:51

charges. What do you think of that

10:53

strategy to keep turns out of prison.

10:57

says. This would be a solid legal

10:59

strategy, but I'm not sure that it's

11:01

one Donald Trump will avail himself. And

11:04

and here is essentially what happens. This

11:06

is sort of the stuff of first

11:08

year criminal law when you're in law

11:10

school and the concept make sense. It's

11:13

sort of the mouth bass concept. We've

11:15

talked a lot about the fact that

11:17

in order to convict someone on a

11:19

criminal charge yes, to prove all the

11:22

elements of that charge, there's usually some

11:24

conduct in a state of mind. prosecutors

11:26

have to prove. All About. Sometimes.

11:29

You might have a charge were

11:31

prosecutors don't prove all of those

11:34

elements, but there's a lesser included

11:36

all sense that they can convict

11:38

on. So let's make that concrete

11:40

and in the trunk case here.

11:42

In order to convict him one

11:44

felony charges, prosecutors will have to

11:47

prove that when he falsified these

11:49

business records she did so with

11:51

the intent to commit another crime.

11:53

and there's been some speculation that

11:55

trial whether they'll talk about taps,

11:58

charges, or election. Fraud or what? You

12:00

But there's a range of crimes that they

12:02

can choose from. How Trump's

12:04

lawyers would implement this strategy? As

12:07

they would say, look, Yes,

12:09

There might be proved fear of

12:11

falsification of business records, but there's

12:13

no proof of intent to commit

12:15

another felony said judge. We want

12:17

you to instruct the jury that

12:19

if the prosecution's that fails to

12:21

prove that they can convict only

12:23

on this lesser included a sense

12:25

which would be a misdemeanor And

12:27

that's the strategic benefit for Trump.

12:29

It's a misdemeanor, not a felony

12:31

And then Trump can go out

12:34

and tried to sell that to

12:36

people as this wasn't serious or

12:38

it was a witch. Hunter or

12:40

whatever he wants to. But that would

12:42

in essence be a victory for Trump,

12:44

which is really key is not looking

12:47

at acquittal here. I think their best

12:49

hope is that they can pick a

12:51

juror or two who will hold out

12:54

against conviction that they will hang the

12:56

jury. It will be a mistrial, which

12:58

means prosecutors could retry the case again.

13:00

This notion of a lesser included a

13:03

fence and only a misdemeanor. Convictions would

13:05

be very appealing if they could convince

13:07

their client Donald Trump. To let them

13:10

go there. Peter. Andre this

13:12

out for our audience on more

13:14

time. This file is essentially about

13:16

Donald Trump trying to hide information

13:19

from the American people during an

13:21

election. And it will be happening

13:23

right in the middle of another elections.

13:25

How do you think the public is

13:28

going to react in this trial? actually

13:30

starts. Yeah, that's the open

13:32

question right? You're right step that there's been

13:34

a lot a conversation about how others for

13:37

different indictments this is the less serious one

13:39

is partly is because seems to tawdry and

13:41

unseen waves about you know our sex and

13:43

all that. But the truth is there's a

13:46

through line I did You just put your

13:48

finger on the through lines years according to

13:50

the allegations, at least cheating in order to

13:52

get power right? That's essentially what been accused

13:55

of in Georgia case and the Jackson the

13:57

January Fifth cases. well cheating in order to

13:59

of. This is inaccurate. to preserve power

14:01

as present here. he's big use a cheating

14:04

order to obtain power by winning an election

14:06

without letting the voters know things they otherwise

14:08

might be in piles and up. and by

14:10

cheating on the rules to do, not just

14:13

simply hiding things, but by cheating on rules

14:15

other businesses and other people who do business

14:17

have to follow every day. And New York

14:20

and so there is a serious issue here.

14:22

is not ah, just about sex and we've

14:24

we've seen this country before. You know sex

14:26

scandals are one thing, but when it comes

14:29

to the of your obligations. And a legal

14:31

setting and a business setting. Ah you know

14:33

you have to follow the rules like everybody

14:35

else now that the prove they didn't do

14:37

it to Joyce's points that the prove all

14:39

the different elements of and we has been

14:41

approved. yeah she's denied it. We should make

14:43

sure to a point out that he's pleaded

14:45

not guilty. but you know yes he is

14:48

convicted. it is us I think part of

14:50

a larger story here to all for these

14:52

indictments and away. By.

14:54

The holy out on this one. Republicans.

14:57

Like test Samaras their

14:59

points about crime being

15:01

ramsay in America on

15:03

President Sizes Watch Know

15:05

call. Themselves the Party of Law

15:07

and Order. What? Does

15:09

that look like come October? In

15:12

down ballot Republicans: Are

15:14

wrong with. It can listen so

15:16

long as as other has it. It.

15:20

Is now me and said

15:23

in London. On

15:26

the output of see on top of that

15:28

is you know about it's guy. Because.

15:32

He says but you know

15:34

what a sad part. Of

15:37

our. They. Will tear. Because.

15:40

It's all about him so

15:42

consumed by hill do so

15:44

much and. Whatever.

15:46

He wants his and make it's He knows

15:49

his successes, their success regardless of what it

15:51

looks like a Howard comes about. So yeah

15:53

I feel the wrath of a severe go

15:55

and women so let me get the say

15:58

use of tomato crime of the. Biden.

16:00

Okay so here's a good example

16:02

of that your your your got.

16:04

This isn't the criminal justice system

16:06

but the it won't matter. It

16:08

really won't matter Because if he

16:11

did we wouldn't be here. He

16:13

would not be the nominee. They

16:16

would have dealt with that a

16:18

long time ago. They would realize

16:20

just how embarrassingly stupid and ugly

16:22

they look. By. Putting spoke with

16:24

someone like this when they're on the

16:26

when There were quite honestly. Qualify.

16:30

Said. A capable certainly Ah

16:32

ha so we say legal

16:34

Free. Are you

16:37

out Or candidates? Nikki Haley? You

16:39

go awry the senses and others

16:41

who could have been the nominee

16:43

which would have made this a

16:45

much more difficult race for the

16:47

democratic party. But now. They.

16:50

Wanted to go with the guy who's going to

16:52

court on Monday. Who stands a

16:54

chance of being convicted? And yeah this

16:56

wrong with that. Come November and see

16:58

how America swallows it, see how much

17:00

they buy and again will say a

17:02

lot more about us to the does

17:05

about Donald Trump or the Republican party.

17:07

Peter. Less embarrassing that sister Catherine

17:09

Hell, we are continuing to see

17:12

this stand off between Republican speaker

17:14

John Sense and Republic and Marjorie

17:16

Taylor Greens is threatening to give

17:18

him the boot. where's this thing

17:21

head? as. Well

17:23

look at me more detail. Green his holiness

17:25

over the speakers head, but she hasn't actually.

17:27

ah.com bubble for a just don't do that

17:29

because it isn't a book for her at

17:31

this moment. The most republicans don't want to

17:33

go see what they went through last year

17:35

and they don't have an ulcer. The candidate

17:37

Mitt wouldn't be didn't like him. The cars

17:40

he was partly because a lot of pelican

17:42

sell the he had not been truthful with

17:44

them fairly or not. They didn't like him

17:46

in a personal way and they had a

17:48

very strong sense of bitterness toward and they

17:50

don't feel that way. In the same with.

17:52

My chance of the mad at him. but some

17:55

of these choices made the mad at him about

17:57

some of his leadership. Ah options but they don't

17:59

feel the same. Sense of of anger at

18:01

him that they did against Mccarthy. So more detail means

18:03

kind of on our own right here. And I don't

18:05

think the Donald Trump wants her to pull the trigger

18:07

either because I think the he recognizes that that wouldn't

18:10

be good for him with a party this point to

18:12

have another meltdowns on the hill at the very moment

18:14

when he already has as you point out right way

18:16

to quite a lot of his place. Before.

18:19

That the three you go choice I want to ask

18:21

you. About Oj Simpson is obviously been

18:23

widely reported. he died said I knew

18:26

has a waltz as experience with our.

18:28

Justice System. How did oh

18:31

jason? Murder trial chains, high

18:33

profile prosecutions, how the media

18:35

covers on. How the public

18:37

concerns and I mean as were

18:39

walking into one with Donald Trump

18:42

come Monday. You

18:45

know there was incredible focus on

18:47

this case in large part because

18:49

it was televised and I don't

18:51

think it was just in prosecutors

18:54

officers that people watched it and

18:56

the sex in the Ass that

18:58

was really fit in many ways

19:00

the great American Pastime during that

19:02

season and says it lead to

19:04

something that I think is so

19:06

interesting and are popular culture. This

19:08

fascination with forensic evidence that has

19:10

spawned lots of different T V

19:12

shows that continues on took to

19:14

really have. I think a grip

19:16

on the American psyche. this notion

19:19

of evidence that proves crimes beyond

19:21

simply witness testimony and how they

19:23

get said in a she said

19:25

that the more definitive proof that

19:27

since I'm from scientific evidence and

19:29

of course in Oj Simpson's case

19:32

that failure of proof that permits

19:34

a defendant to a great number

19:36

of people works against was guilty

19:38

to walk free because the government

19:40

didn't prove that to the satisfaction

19:42

of a jury. right?

19:45

Choice: Peter Michael Thank you all

19:47

for starting the South this evening

19:49

when we return as President Biden

19:51

tries to close a loophole. Tennessee

19:54

has a plan to get more guns

19:56

out in the world are going to

19:58

be speaking about the new as. You

20:00

got to hear this. The new

20:02

efforts to arm the teachers was

20:04

one of the Tennessee three who'll

20:06

be here next and later. Between

20:09

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20:11

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20:13

from the right and the left,

20:15

but I'll be speaking with the

20:17

democratic strategist who's lot war in

20:19

one single set eleventh hour just

20:22

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20:24

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and ministry since his ass. and

21:08

today to end the so called

21:10

done So loophole requiring any one

21:12

engaged in the business of selling

21:14

guns at a profits to register

21:17

as a federally licensed firearms dealers

21:19

and run background criminal and mental

21:21

health checks on any buyers fell

21:23

will include not only themselves but

21:25

it see markets and online. This

21:28

could be the biggest expansion of

21:30

federal background checks that we've seen

21:32

in this country in decades. Meanwhile.

21:35

This meet the Tennessee State

21:37

Senate Advanced advil their to

21:40

are they are teachers and

21:42

school staff. In. The face

21:44

of local protests Esas the move

21:46

would mark one of the state's

21:48

biggest expansions and on access since

21:50

the deadly Covenant School Shooting that

21:53

took place now. So last year

21:55

here to discuss Tennessee State Representative

21:57

Just and Jones you know him

21:59

as one of the Tennessee Three.

22:01

He was reinstated to his position

22:03

one year ago yesterday after he

22:06

was peacefully protesting gun violence and

22:08

racial racial. Wagner joins us a

22:10

Children's Reporters at the Tennessean and

22:12

Usa Today network Rachel: What should

22:14

we know about the spell? Because.

22:17

It's almost too much to

22:19

believes. Baton.

22:22

Pass first of all the requirements

22:24

that as for these teachers are

22:27

staff members of my curie. Are

22:30

laid out in the bill for their doctor of team. I

22:33

and enhance him them carry permit

22:35

and complete annual training with local

22:37

law enforcement. Forty hours

22:39

a year. And then.

22:43

District. Director Schools. The principal

22:45

and than the chief of the law

22:47

enforcement agency would have to sign off

22:49

on it along with i'm having a

22:51

member conduct a mental health evaluation then

22:53

and f. B I background checks. But.

22:56

Once they do that, a teacher

22:58

could have done on their valve.

23:00

Wow, she's in the third grade.

23:04

Yeah. And another thing that has raised

23:06

lot of concerns is that. They.

23:08

Want me to disclose switch staff members

23:11

a carrying weapons in the schools, you

23:13

teachers, parents, and possibly even. Other

23:15

teachers around them. Representatives.

23:18

L is what? What is your yeah since of

23:20

s more people in your district tone. With.

23:24

Of the people are outraged. you know the

23:26

Tennessee Republican majority continues to hold our state

23:28

a gun point in put more guns on

23:31

our streets, another trying to force goes into

23:33

our classrooms. I think the most asinine thing

23:35

about this stuff me that we live in

23:37

a state where we pass law saying we

23:39

don't trust teachers to pick the books in

23:41

their classrooms will teach that we don't trust

23:43

teachers to pick their own curriculum about the

23:45

streets for now than when as they we

23:48

want teachers to carry guns in our schools

23:50

when it when every period of we saw

23:52

shop in our committees soap in the chamber

23:54

said. Please don't do this. more. guns are

23:56

not the solution and old make our children

23:58

and our schools more unsafe. We. Don't

24:00

even providers teachers with the school

24:03

supplies. They need to do their

24:05

jobs way. So what our parents

24:07

and teachers say about this. So.

24:12

I. Would see is fairly wide outcry

24:14

against the the passage. Of the bill

24:16

now on our seats and is has

24:18

been rolling Ah the sweet ah It

24:20

is yet to be taken up by

24:22

our house. As

24:24

input into that potential hearing, lots

24:26

of books are planning to continue

24:29

their their protests and speaking out

24:31

against this. Survey.

24:33

Their concerns for. All.

24:35

The way things could go wrong. I'm.

24:38

More. Visible have been out of her. You. Plan

24:40

on that. Bad teachers and

24:42

students. I'm. Almost unanimously

24:44

heard them say that they're against it. I'm

24:46

in that they're worried about what it means. Representative.

24:49

What to say to people who

24:51

argue? will schools have the option

24:54

to opt out as accident as.

24:57

A move is Mcguinness of In and I

24:59

want to point out that the majority of

25:02

the thieves or against this bill seventy percent

25:04

of the few more comments and gun laws

25:06

Republicans, Independence and Democrats of the summer both

25:08

sides. As you're going to clear about that

25:10

that gunshot wounds are the leading cause of

25:12

death of children in our state and across

25:14

as nations and the people are demanding now.

25:17

We actually showed up torque capital month after

25:19

month. Same with what Martha protect his not

25:21

guns We want more than raid in this

25:23

this senseless terror and preventable tragedy of gun

25:25

violence in our state and across this nation.

25:27

And I want a habit another billed as

25:30

being offered as much as arming teachers but

25:32

in in the house sides of it is

25:34

possible to committee to lower the a secure

25:36

assault weapons the team's until I'll be open.

25:38

Carry of assault weapons are by anybody in

25:40

our state and this is a buddhist so

25:42

extreme of the governor's own departments or department

25:44

of safety thing. Don't want this bill this

25:46

is this is not something that we can

25:49

support and so what we're hearing are states

25:51

is people saying that our legislators more be

25:53

insane We have a republican supermajority. It's better

25:55

at it as is. Lost their minds as

25:57

Nieto passing. Laws as last week to honor to

25:59

Tennessee right. Oh the same week that we

26:01

are recognizing the comments I am tragedy on here

26:03

in our state that a mash unit to the

26:05

lies a three nine yards and three adults and

26:07

yet going to honor a gun arm and and

26:10

the only law that we pass after the company

26:12

mass shooting was to protect arms manufacturers. So what

26:14

we're seeing as a republican suit majority each that

26:16

is beholden to the gun industry that is beholden

26:18

to.extremists as beholden to in our rates and that

26:20

is not listening to the people of Tennessee. For.

26:23

Representative: What is this can happen when all

26:25

of this ends up on it. Other Assessed.

26:29

I mean unfortunately we have a governor who doesn't

26:31

have a lot of political courage and so he's

26:33

only got fined or allow it to take effect.

26:35

While his signature on the governor lost a friend

26:38

in the Comet shooting, we thought that he would

26:40

act week. he called a special session but he

26:42

bow down to the extremists have taken over his

26:44

party and up as the nothing and so will

26:46

we say that it's gonna take people's rising up

26:48

to be just as week in the senate chamber

26:51

I'm in the house of in the senate chamber

26:53

we thought mothers and grandmothers and clergy escorted out

26:55

by troopers because they refuse to allow this lot

26:57

of tasks and the comfort of silence. They shouted

26:59

spaces same on you They said vote them out

27:01

because they're sick and tired of these Are You

27:04

know that these lawmakers part of the republican lawmakers

27:06

refusing to act to protect kids and is said

27:08

listening to their donors from Be Tennessee Font Association

27:10

and the at our age and so they sowed

27:12

is and they disrupted sex and they said we

27:14

we cannot allow this to happen without raising at

27:16

a set and that's what we must continue The

27:19

seats and when we bought on this bill on

27:21

next week In the how the whole that these

27:23

mothers I know that they will continue to show

27:25

up and in and fight for States That is

27:27

that owners are shown that protects our children's and

27:29

that Listen to our teachers who said we want

27:31

supplies we want We want fair pay and livable

27:34

salary We don't want guns our both not one

27:36

teacher. My district has said that they want this

27:38

loss but they said they want they want more

27:40

books, They want more supplies They want better pay.

27:42

That's what our teachers wants, not more guns in

27:44

our schools. While. There is someone and was

27:46

and then trying to do something on dance

27:48

right now I want to get your ass

27:51

sense to this new White House or off

27:53

on the done So it's easy on the

27:55

done So Nepal and what kind of done

27:57

reforms do you want a home console. This

28:02

isn't a. How this is an

28:04

important step: Closing the gun show loophole requiring

28:07

you know, expanding the definition of firearms manufacturers'

28:09

to to go online sales and gun so

28:11

that is common sense. This is a common

28:13

sense law and that's all we're asking for.

28:15

Tennessee's laws like universal background checks smoke like

28:17

say stores lot like red flag laws are

28:19

more by going to a ban on assault

28:21

weapons which we knew arm is something that

28:23

has worked before a nation that reduced in

28:25

the know these instances the gun miles of

28:28

mass shootings and can work again Arm and

28:30

it's gonna take political career to from the

28:32

take. Do think out of the ordinary. It's

28:34

going to take some folks who put a

28:36

lot of people over the profits of the

28:38

gun industry. nobody donations of the farm industry

28:41

on that sort of minutes heat. And so

28:43

these are the laws of the majority of

28:45

Tennesseans. The majority of Americans are get. This

28:47

is not an issue left or right, but

28:49

this is a moral issue Right and wrong.

28:51

Democrats or Republicans independents are in agreement that

28:53

we must act to pass these common sense

28:55

gun law measures that will protect us and

28:57

our group Resource pack of in our schools

29:00

Protect as we go to the movie Theater

29:02

Congress all these places will receive. A

29:04

mass shootings and and in at it everyday gun violence

29:06

people are tired of living is weights and we don't

29:08

have to live this. Oh and this is

29:10

that this is a political decision as a toy, the

29:12

political cowardice and and and to the people of America

29:14

whole that we continue to rise up and speak up

29:17

and silences extremism. I represented as

29:19

thank you for will have also

29:21

thankful as wealth or we return

29:23

despite price. Outside of relaxing

29:25

sounds off or less cast

29:27

has unless the democrats south.

29:30

Side of that that. And. Eleventh

29:33

Hour Syncing it. Will.

29:41

Seven months ago until election day, President

29:43

Biden is facing headlines as license hasn't

29:46

thrown but itself higher than anybody wants

29:48

her to. This thought say the Crisis

29:50

at the Border is a top as

29:52

sales and the President is facing back

29:55

last within his own party for how

29:57

he has handled Israel and Gaza. The

29:59

also and incredibly tight race between Biden

30:01

and Down from and there are democrats

30:03

out there that are worried. But.

30:06

One presidential campaign veteran is urging his

30:08

fellow down to calm down and he

30:10

is here tonight to explain like I'm

30:12

very glad to welcome Democratic strategist and

30:15

consultant Simon Rosenberg. My my a big

30:17

follower and fan of his work so

30:19

we want to start. Assignments are going

30:21

to give you credit, you went against

30:24

the crowd and correctly predicted there be

30:26

no read wave and twenty Twenty Two.

30:29

So. Tell us why You think Democrats are

30:31

too worried about this election? Will

30:33

source most of neutral to be sure

30:35

to normal. sore from your work over

30:38

many years and was a pleasure to

30:40

my own. So my basic to come

30:42

where things are right now is that

30:45

Joe Biden has been a good president,

30:47

was better off without a strong case

30:49

for reelection to.product Thirty Strong Unified raising

30:51

tons of money in winning elections are

30:54

across the country and what are the

30:56

Republicans have to have? Trump's who's the

30:58

ugly political thing that we've ever seen

31:00

in our lifetime and her party is

31:03

an unprecedented. Dumpster fire and so when

31:05

I look at all this I believe in

31:07

overtime and I think the general view the

31:09

campaign and people like me is that as

31:12

the general election began and people started paying

31:14

attention and the campaign was turned on that

31:16

we would see Joe his approval rating and

31:19

his numbers come up is only Nebraska months

31:21

and they have right and we we are

31:23

much better shape today and we were a

31:25

few weeks ago and and I feel like

31:28

the election is moving and direction where we

31:30

should all be com quietly confident that we

31:32

have. As you pointed out that we got this that

31:34

if we execute we work hard look a lot of

31:37

things are going to happen, things are going to change

31:39

and always happens in elections. But if we do the

31:41

work and work hard I think we should be able

31:43

to win in November. Given me

31:45

as you put it on.

31:47

President and Dumpster Fire Donald

31:49

Sons. And the republican party. Why?

31:52

Do you think polls are as tight as they

31:54

are? You just think they're not represented as the

31:56

case, Not when the polls and then a site

31:58

look at the last year. No

32:01

mere, they're not even connected to an election.

32:03

Results: Are see. I think it's for some

32:05

reason for most Americans are not really paying

32:08

attention to be. I know think that these

32:10

polls have any predictive value whatsoever pose

32:12

can never predict the future. All they can

32:14

do is tell you where things are

32:16

today and I think vast numbers of Americans

32:18

are not paying very close attention and was

32:21

important for your viewers to realize is

32:23

that when voters have had to pinch when

32:25

they're been actual like since we keep

32:27

over performing expectations, Republicans continue to struggle. It's

32:29

happens again and again, particularly since dogs in

32:32

the Spring of Twenty Twenty Two. For

32:34

I really do think that politics changed in

32:36

America. I think there was a before and

32:38

after moments and in the elections and start

32:40

of people are paying attention. We continue to

32:42

outperform expectations. The most recent example of that

32:44

was a New York Three righteous nearby New

32:46

York City. It's where are they were supposed

32:48

to be. Very close race, were only have

32:50

two or three points in the polls and

32:52

Tom Swazi one by eight points that we're

32:54

supposed to be a big bellwether that was

32:56

going to tell us a lot about this

32:58

election and we kick their ass. Frankly, innocent

33:00

and elections and so I think you know

33:02

for you have. Also seen it in Trump

33:04

right Trump. The struggle that I mentioned

33:07

has shown up with Trump and his

33:09

in the early states. He's been underperforming

33:11

polls and Twenty Twenty ski over perform

33:13

false dyslexia Underperforming post is showing a

33:15

sign of weakness that when people that

33:17

make up their mind they went with

33:19

Nikki Haley. They went with other candidates

33:21

because of the end of the day.

33:23

He really is an ugly figure. I

33:25

mean the Republicans, a rally behind historically

33:27

ugly candidates. And I think that when

33:29

people have gone and when they have

33:32

to consider Trump, Twenty Twenty Four. Two,

33:34

I think as far weaker and more

33:36

degraded and more undiminished. and he was.

33:38

And Twenty twenty you know he's really

33:40

struggle. And another example that this of

33:43

the been other problems are having Raising

33:45

money. I mean they're having enormous financial

33:47

problems on the republican side which is

33:49

another sign of no confidence by republican

33:51

voters in his leadership. Upon

33:54

I said other democrats are feeling

33:57

hosts fooling around as fears that

33:59

president. Isn't delivering or

34:01

fears that the threat of

34:03

Donald Trump is so great?

34:05

They have to take every

34:07

single thing so seriously because

34:10

our democracy. At risk I think

34:12

doesn't mean I think the in i think

34:14

we're on many americans were might be there

34:16

my to believe that we can be back

34:18

to a time when you lose election and

34:21

your democracy when slip away rockets and that

34:23

in other them were in fear the people

34:25

have as legitimate the key is the you

34:28

need a town of them were in fear

34:30

into concrete action and democrats been doing and

34:32

I mean you've seen unprecedented amounts of money

34:34

being raised, unprecedented levels of on tourism. The

34:37

Democratic party were in the process of building

34:39

most powerful democratic political. Machine and we've

34:41

ever had because regular Americans are answering

34:43

the call they are being challenged to

34:45

preserve to fight for their democracy and

34:47

hundreds of thousands millions of Americans are

34:49

stepping up to do so. And so

34:51

it should be very encouraging to ask

34:53

them in. One of the reasons we

34:55

keep performing better than everybody expects is

34:58

because of the work of the hundreds

35:00

of thousands of millions of Americans were

35:02

raising the money and making phone calls.

35:04

you know and toss was his race

35:06

in New York for a in five

35:08

weeks democrats mates or two million phone

35:10

calls. Two million phone calls into a

35:12

house race? That's the kind of number of

35:15

cause you'd make in Michigan in the general

35:17

elections. you know, in the entire general election.

35:19

A few years ago, every household in New

35:21

York City got five handwritten postcards every democratic

35:24

house or were seen as outpouring of

35:26

citizen engagement and as giving us this extra

35:28

muscle the such a superpower which is another

35:30

reason why I feel confident as begun to

35:33

the election. Or maybe now

35:35

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death is a recipient of the

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Macarthur Genius Grant and New York

36:48

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36:50

Rogers of Columbus, Ohio. It doesn't

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get better than that's how it

36:54

as a as and cultural credit

36:56

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for our Chino conversation tonight his

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out with a new less free

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book. Called. There's always this

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year on basketball and a sense and

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I am so honored that you were.

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this song is about basketball.

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It's about Ohio most famous

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basketball. Player of the brawn: James. But

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it is not a sports focus. So much

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more than that. seller. And think so. It's

37:22

also a book about the passage of time

37:24

and suffer books about what it used to

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love, a place in what it is to

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make it or make it out of a

37:30

place or it is trying to juggle a

37:32

lot of different teams about life men's to

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through. Best of all which helped me make

37:37

sense of the bigger question. You

37:39

talk about what it means to

37:41

me. That and more importantly, Who

37:44

deserves. To make it

37:47

safe Slain that sir. I. Like.

37:49

To think of it probably not just who deserves to

37:51

make it in the sense of who deserves to make

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it to them be a of who deserves to make

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it had some larger platforms for who deserves a life

37:58

that a sustainable who deserves a length of the. Survived

38:00

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38:02

for love to get to this like that

38:04

I have right now and I didn't believe

38:06

myself capable of surviving all of them. But

38:09

you have made it in the small increments

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says Made it. To

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a place where to look at the world where

38:15

patiently and more generously I would take that form

38:17

of making it over media reports. I wanna

38:20

know how you got there because they spent

38:22

some time. In your early twenties and jail?

38:24

just who didn't? Always. Have a place to

38:26

read is. What

38:28

made you may set turn

38:31

and start riding. I

38:33

don't know if it was a turn is

38:35

so much as I think in order to

38:37

survive I needed to foster a healthy imagination.

38:40

I needed to have an imagination that was

38:42

robust enough to dream. A better world smashes

38:44

for myself that a better world for multiple

38:46

other people, A better world that everyone could

38:48

survive in where it with attempt to survive

38:51

and well And so there was a lot

38:53

of dreaming on my own that just kind

38:55

of flowed into right had to. My writing

38:57

specifically is rooted in a depth of imagination

38:59

and a depth of care and a depth

39:01

of effect. Since that I. Think. Came through

39:04

struggle. So. Through struggle I dream the world

39:06

than I wanted to live in a man. I'm writing

39:08

my way towards it's it's my kids. And the

39:10

road back to your. Home town Columbus, Ohio where

39:12

you have been called Mister Rogers of

39:14

Columbus. how the next day and why

39:17

I cannot think of a higher compliment

39:19

at is like a minute. Ever see

39:21

Brad liked? I don't It's not. It's

39:23

not intentional in a way. I didn't.

39:25

I just try to live with some

39:27

level of care for my community. I'm

39:29

very curious, very interested in people. I

39:31

think that. The. Real doorway

39:33

that opens to loving people well as through to

39:35

do a full costume in as you know where

39:37

you from what he to what are you interested

39:40

in that we may be interesting, we get some

39:42

it's my work is also reaching for these inquiries

39:44

and I'm trying to share things with you that

39:46

I love in the hopes that you to my

39:48

love than men we have a common grounds with

39:50

which we can open up a better doorway to

39:53

love each other well. and so perhaps that's pulls

39:55

me closer to Mister Rogers than I expected to.

39:57

That's that the Hall of I'm on both because

39:59

Mister Rogers. Someone you love to take

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pictures of sunset I do tell. Me:

40:03

why many didn't have the roll their

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eyes as cliche as corny, but it's

40:08

not. Able to produce corny I'm

40:10

not opposed to be course not afraid of

40:12

being point, embrace the level according to snobbery.

40:14

But the truth is I am distinctly aware

40:17

of the amount of time that I am

40:19

operating within that it is not infinite and

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therefore it is important for me to slow

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down and consider the things have some would

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consider mundane things that we encounter every day

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it's but they're not the same every day

40:30

I to take a hundred pictures of one

40:32

hundred sunsets. Not all of them would be

40:35

the same sunset sunset for my corner to

40:37

your quarters. not the same sunsets. The sunset

40:39

from my window today is Not the same

40:41

as a sunset from whatever window I'll be

40:43

looking at. Smiles and to say. I

40:46

have considered that be Sun sets differently from

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every corner of the world I can possibly

40:51

touch is to offer a kind of smoke

40:53

smoke moments through which I can consider the

40:55

world where generously and I think that keeps

40:57

me are aligned joyfully with the passage of

40:59

time. To say it's I have not considered

41:02

every possible version of myself there is to

41:04

come in the the way that I consider

41:06

that and keep considering that generously is to

41:08

put the mundane things is not an arm

41:10

and this. While the best thing that happened

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to my diet was. Holding his tonight thanks

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to the Dell sell lots and honor

41:17

and a federalized last. I

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saw the are infertile. When we come back.

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As. Lewiston Maine Rebels after a

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deadly mass shooting So is a

41:27

bowling alley for as happened had

41:29

it owners as turning. Into

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place when a lot of hours until. The

41:43

last thing before without tonight just in

41:46

time. It has been nearly six months

41:48

since a horrific mass shootings in Lewiston,

41:50

Maine that left thirteen people dead at

41:52

a bowling alley and a nearby bar.

41:55

And now the owners of that bowling

41:57

alley are planning to move forward. Real.

42:00

I make it a safe place against our own.

42:02

Emily A Qaeda has that story. Just

42:05

and you re grew up bowling here

42:07

in Lewiston, Maine. Some

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of the owner announced he was closing

42:12

the business and twenty twenty one, he

42:14

bought it just in time. We were

42:16

mowers. We knew a lot of people here

42:18

and related to see a close as soon.

42:22

As the last October, his Passion

42:24

Project was offended when a gunman

42:26

storms the bowling alley and a

42:29

nearby bar, killing eighteen people. Would

42:31

he remember from that night? Thinking

42:34

though, some emperor has.

42:38

Been. Murdered Samantha. feared. The

42:40

scene for her husband. And. Not knowing

42:42

that he was alive, I didn't find out for

42:44

like two and half hours as he was alive

42:46

or not. Even nearly six

42:48

months later in. The

42:51

emotions still so rock. Hard.

42:57

A Guilt, Nightmares and triggers

42:59

have played Samantha and Justin's

43:01

days and nights. Or than below

43:03

the be able to walk hundred

43:05

and let alone reopen the business

43:07

with see such scenes of sorts

43:09

and a feeling. That Louis the needed

43:12

just in time recreation. see how the

43:14

all new paint on the walls see

43:16

how it's now in the final stages

43:18

of renovation. He's away from reopening. Where

43:21

we lost Love this place.

43:24

I could hear the mob

43:26

violence telling me to give

43:28

up. On. Feel like this is what the victims

43:30

would have wanted. Them for with. Bob

43:33

and Lucy violent were killed while volunteering

43:35

with the youth leagues, just as they

43:38

did every Wednesday night. Son. John

43:40

and his wife Sandra moved back to mean

43:42

to continue and that like to see. A

43:44

look over at the wins over here, that's

43:47

where is usually the ones that are practice.

43:49

Was Came in on a lot of once

43:51

in a of my own kids myself so

43:53

it's hard to remember the good things. Must

43:55

send a lot of hours and this bowling

43:58

alley years and years nearest the here. With.

44:00

Them so kind of feel close to them by being.

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Here out my presence

44:04

encourages others and. Flew

44:08

and force. Pressing on the

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only way they know how newest

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in strong. Emily. Quetta Nbc

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News Lewiston, Maine. Will

44:18

assess and or samantha the best

44:20

of luck and reopening the bowling

44:22

alley. And pray that everyone in

44:24

Lewis says his ceiling. And. Moving

44:26

forward in Peace. And on that

44:28

note, I wish you a very good night

44:31

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