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Hello

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and welcome to the Zee Robbie's podcast,

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your destination for in-depth discussion and analysis

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of the Premier League. I'm Robbie

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Musto, he's Robbie Earl and here

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are today's topics. The

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title race tightens at the top after

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Arsenal stake their claim and sweep aside

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Liverpool 3-1 at home. The

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problems at Chelsea pile on from Ricia of

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Pochettino after losing 4-2 at home to Wolves

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despite taking an early lead. Evertons

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secure a crucial point in their relegation

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race as Jared Bruntway scores a late

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equaliser against Tottenham and Manchester

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United continue their recent bouncing form with

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a 3-0 win against West Ham. That's

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what we have coming up in today's

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episode. OK

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mate, there's absolutely only one place to

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stop. It was the big game of

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the weekend at the Emmett's, Arsenal hosting

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Liverpool. OK, before we get into any

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kind of detail, Robbie

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Musto you were in the studio

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this weekend. I know you were watching at

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home and copious amount of notes, but I

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want you to give me a sentence

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on your take

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away from this game. What

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was your biggest take away from

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a 3-1 win by Arsenal, a

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dominating Arsenal in the first half,

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a considered late goal, had some

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disappointment, came back, Liverpool didn't

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quite play at the fluent best even,

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what's your take away? What's the thing

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that you might hold for the season

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on that game did this?

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I'll try and do it in one sentence and that

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sentence would probably be, Arsenal are

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not going anywhere, they're

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right back in

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the race Rob. That's kind of what

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I feel like. I thought today was a different.

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defining game, particularly for Arsenal,

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given the vibe a little bit, given the recent

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results a little bit and being a little bit

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off the pace, this was a time

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to get back on track. And everything

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from the first whistle really to

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the last, Arsenal were pretty, pretty

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immaculate. The own

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goal, of course, was scored by Gabrielle just

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before half-time, was really the only negative part

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of it. Other than that, the way

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they started the game, even the line-up

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rub, and, you know, there's a couple

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of big calls from Michael Arteta, a

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couple of big calls going for Kai

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Havots up front, Jazu's not ready to

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go, there's Enketia, there's Trosantheka, player Folsnoyne,

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he continues to go

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with Kai Havots, and Kai Havots

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was involved in the first goal, and

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what I'll say before I get too much further into

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this Rob is, I mean, I'm not

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a big fan of Kai Havots, I'm not his biggest fan,

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but I'll tell you

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what, in this

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game, he worked like I've never seen him

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work before, unless I'm not watching enough for

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that side of him. He played

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a Folsnoyne, so the up front, he

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worked back, he worked his

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socks off, Kai Havots, and I tell

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you what, fair play, fair play, from

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wide areas defending, to central areas defending

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Rob, to running him behind, to closing

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down, he's got some engine, you know,

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he's got some engine, I'm not a

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huge fan of his finishing quality, or

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sometimes his involvement, and sometimes his body

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language, and sometimes his, I don't

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know, determination, all that

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being said, he worked really, really hard, and for

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that I give him credit. But

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I'll let you come back in Rob, it was a

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good day for Mick Artetta and Arsenal, I

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like the change of system by the way, but

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let me get, you know, what did you think,

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anything different to that? The

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takeaways from it, I thought,

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as you, I thought it was a huge day for Arsenal,

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I thought it was stronger than maybe Tim and a few

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other people, I thought they'd lose today, they're not going to pull

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eight games back, eight

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points in 15, with

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City flying, with Liverpool then would have

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been. been flying, you know, if they'd

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have won the game. My

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biggest takeaway was, Rob, played

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brilliant football, probably should have, you know, the football deserved

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to be more than one nil up at half time.

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The go in 1-1. My biggest

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takeaway was the reaction to the

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disappointment of going in 1-1. I

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always worry about, don't worry when Arsenal's playing

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well, and today they were playing one of

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the best teams in the league and dominated

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the ball and pressed them

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in and won possession and looked

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more dangerous. But when a disappointment

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comes to Arsenal, as we saw

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last season, Rob, there's

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still for me a doubt about how this team

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might react. Now, I think they should be better,

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and I've often said, you know, I think they're

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learned from last year. Declan Rice

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makes them better. I'll talk about

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Giorgino in a little while that his experience

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helps them in those situations. But I just

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thought it was a big day for Arsenal

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to get over a big disappointment

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that could have gone another way and they

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ended up winning the game. I

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thought there was smart game management in the

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second half, Rob. Smart game management. First half,

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I think everybody who watched that first half

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knows that Arsenal were really at it. They

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pressed Liverpool really, really well. They've dominated because

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of that. Liverpool, I don't know, Jurgen Klopp

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was frustrated at the end about how they

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didn't play football, they weren't allowed to play

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football. That's all down to Arsenal's plusing. Now,

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jumping forward to half-time, you can see

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that goal kind of a mess up,

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mix up defensively with the own goal.

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And second half was different. Liverpool started much

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more on the front foot. And

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what I liked about Arsenal, Rob, is there were

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periods there that they were like, they

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were kind of OK with that. I was

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watching with my son as I often do it a weekend, and

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the shape of Arsenal was really good. And

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they basically said, you know what, you're having

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a bit of a reaction after half-time, your

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tail's up a little bit, this is OK,

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and we've got this. And we defended really

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well. The shape defensively for Arsenal was not

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different, weren't they? again like

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without the ball they're pretty much fought the

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back four crossman field two up front the

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defend uh miss habits and and odor

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guard today they're a bit different

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in possession because rice played alongside joe

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jr with odor guard kind of sensualism

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number 10 that's kind of different and

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i liked it i liked it a lot but

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but second after they got their opportunities the long

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ball over the top the mistake from the goalkeeper

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and from van dyke they go two one up

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and they managed the game really well didn't feel

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like they had to continue with the pressing or

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continue with the good football they were

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okay so and you know what and that i just

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think that was smart and i like to

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see teams that can do both things they can high press

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they can play the football and other times when they realize

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the time is right they can sit

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behind the ball and say oh okay they're having

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a bit of a go here let's just sit

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in there and get a good shape because something

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good can happen on the counter attack it's exactly

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what happened i thought it was a really nice

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job of the manager picking a team

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changing the tactics and and like you said

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rob having having the patience and the mentality

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to play a little differently in the second

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half but knowing that that was the best

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way to manage the game if they if

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they'd have opened up right arson i'm sure

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of this and a few arson a few

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years ago if they get on the front

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foot and they get them spoolbacks flying or

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inside and they try and expand and play

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their best football liverpool would be like rubbing

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their hands and like they'll pounce they'll counter

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attack they didn't do that they didn't they

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didn't fall into the trap of that and

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i thought it was really well managed from arteta

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and the team yeah it was interesting because um

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we got our tater at the band he was

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pitched pitch side with the guys over in england

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did a brilliant job today the guys pitch side

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and they got there a lot and obviously he's

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in a good mood and lee and reed

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dixon's obviously former arson players who's got a huge

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respect that he carries there but he was very

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open arteta and talked about how he spoke to

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his players about okay we've had a

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disappointment and they're gonna come have a little go at

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us we have to expect them to come we've got

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to be prepared to be ready for that we've

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got to be prepared to take what they do and

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then go again and he almost played out to exactly

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so I thought for 15 minutes Liverpool looked

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likely you'd expect pop got into him

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We knew probably changes would come you

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know, there's would get on didn't know

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how long that would be Yeah, but

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I thought there was a real control

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about awesome Which I think

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is a step further from

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where they were last year last year Arsenal

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would have come flying out second off to prove a point

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Right, we just conceded we're gonna get to one

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up and they've opened up in Liverpool They'd probably

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won three one, but there's a different

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maturity and I have to go to my

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under appreciated player of the week because I

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can't talk about the awesome performance without talking

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about Giorgino today, Rob and it

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was a little surprised that he ended up winning the

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Player of the match room. I think our

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partner Sky in England and I said to

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Rebecca before any of that I said I'm

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gonna name a player Probably most

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people won't mention him. He's not gonna be

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a headline maker He won't be man of

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the match, but Giorgino Rob We

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had we have a tactical common in the in

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the studio, which is it is a great view.

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I mean a full 360

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degree view of the whole game and you can

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see the shape and the people Giorgino's

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I Think

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Giorgino's game management to your point

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What he did with the ball what he did

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without the ball what he was urging people worry

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what he was not He was an absolute honestly.

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I kept writing notes down Giorgino this Giorgino

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that when they were pressing He was the

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one who was setting the triggers and telling people

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to go when they were sitting off He

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was talking to people getting saccharine and and

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martinelli on that side to do their jobs

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I just thought he he's one of those

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players Rob who is coming to to

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To Arsenal doesn't play every week

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Michael Arteta said trains like

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a beast every day He's been

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a winner Internationally and at club level

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he's obviously a huge influence on team Declan

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Rice talked about learning from him and him

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being a mentor to him, I

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just think Giorgino's one

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those players who Finally,

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Possibly don't understand his value on

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a month stay in during the

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week i think Mitt hello testicles

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Nasa was a date him to

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recognize the mole's those people play

10:10

on big day like today. Yeah,

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yes a great show Robin and I'm I'm

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with ya a few hours. Arsenal fans are

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going to or never let you finish our

10:20

you know some also fans are not sure

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why I'm or whatever. What

10:24

is What you need It and and I think a tweet

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out something like. That. His his

10:29

His downside is. If he's

10:31

left on his own in the middle of

10:33

that midfield and as a carrot sexy to

10:35

situation going on and he is not very

10:37

quick and he's not very physical now you

10:40

put him in a team is compact and

10:42

you put him next the deck from rise.

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All of a sudden I'm like in the

10:46

midfield double pivot the is what they say

10:48

now the to central me to help you

10:51

out in the feel plus the side by

10:53

side and then Oda God is a little

10:55

free, a little more advanced to receive the

10:57

ball they still got em saccharine, Still got

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Martinelli. And co I have as as well.

11:02

By the way Robin again we don't get to task

11:04

manager he kids he came into midfield. Or

11:06

of on on that President Ford an odor god

11:09

support to the right So I think you indicated

11:11

this to Obama things I have and it was

11:13

a deeper box. I wasn't a high up when

11:15

buying another and so just ominous. A little is

11:17

a little tweak the i just think you make

11:19

those that were changes and we know is it

11:21

while as different yeah a Liverpool here to up

11:24

by are going to minute I thought oh did

11:26

I was right. And. Respected Rice to play

11:28

the last eight. no no no I love those

11:30

two Together you get good football, good defense. Rice

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can still get food rob even but me menu

11:35

both played in the middle of it showed him

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in with to plaza on one can get in

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the box when it when it's on on some

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rice can still do that's why I really unlikely

11:44

from that the task will sort of it with

11:46

the to holding players. I. Feel

11:48

like ask known and and Arteta needed to

11:50

do something different. It's gone a little bit.

11:53

Predictable. Live a predictable, the what

11:55

the football hadn't changed over the last couple years

11:57

and this doesn't seem much and is not much.

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If it's just something a little different and I

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thought that was really good and he absolutely at

12:04

a good game of the only thing you can't

12:06

do is defend very well but as a combat

12:09

and he's got deck some respects to and then

12:11

submit a case that and and it's it works

12:13

out great. It was a great and you're right

12:15

because the camera of course I know in that

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you can. you can consume controlling and pushing for

12:19

some songs on that when the shot is is

12:22

the main camera you don't know We see that

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she said us. Just really interesting. The East is

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leave is a leaders Italy's Italian I mean I

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played us to I types was. How the

12:30

unpleasant. I've never the so professional

12:33

and dedicated and. That. Update:

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Doesn't surprise me that he's a soldier

12:37

Leader Dwight Yoakam was on sale. Dismissal

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we we we we have a quick

12:41

lid on the focus was it wasn't

12:43

great day for them injured and Congress

12:45

was speaking on say that we didn't

12:47

it's just been Also point of view

12:49

you know the Habits situation where it

12:51

was full of Jesus was to say

12:53

i'm Angie wasn't things and need that

12:55

they they talked about level as on

12:57

he not fit not an intimate stay

12:59

squad so Habits comes in the choice

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he cites or swords and catches options.

13:05

How does how does that feel moving

13:07

forward? Goblin J, The Suspects. Was

13:12

a great question. To great question

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Robin and if I'm be some sort of

13:16

being totally honest I still think this is

13:18

what's going to can hinder them would in

13:20

a to me. With. I

13:23

just. You. Just do I just think that

13:25

I think coming up as is the coming to win

13:27

a title from a Number nine or Fi Smooth. I

13:29

didn't want to get Bush's use as though

13:31

he we thoughts on the last part. One

13:33

of I read these changes mentality about more

13:36

goes from now on we'll see when it

13:38

comes been kidnapped. Trust on a suppose is

13:40

a real proper false nine Maybe doesn't get

13:42

the goals as well. So I I even

13:44

though it's been so positive about our snow

13:46

ice a Me I again you look at

13:48

that team right? You look at those options

13:50

in midfield. yeah and you look at the

13:52

Y Plaza. You know the options air down

13:54

One they are one. Lemon

13:56

really good Striker wife from from over

13:58

I think is a. Campion Team. I

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just think that one position on or know

14:03

that others can score and can and can

14:05

fill the void a little bit. But.

14:07

I still don't think those. The

14:10

other players that have done well can get the

14:12

number. go. I think this can be games Rob

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Roster: We're not going to win games because they

14:16

can't because they they pushing pushing pushing tough on

14:18

the way through pushing pushing a Stephen got an

14:20

extra couple ago few goals were in a team

14:22

that might mean an unsolved about tightly. Yeah I'm

14:25

sort of up this you have to to win

14:27

it all is I taught which is can be

14:29

very difficult so I mean going forward. Or

14:31

less see some or grabbers a sous but yet.

14:34

To see if it isn't it in this mentality

14:36

talked about, I'm going to be much more focused

14:38

on scoring goals because if he does that and

14:40

it works out a minute is, I'm sure it's

14:42

not simply Zappa some does. Interesting. Other than that,

14:45

What? Do you think an emerald You think

14:47

that you'd rather have somebody other than J.

14:49

Zeus the rest of seasons in the nine

14:51

position to know what? Rather I think some

14:54

signs let things play out and if he

14:56

doesn't continue to look as if I mean

14:58

when much as you night when Manchester City

15:00

Lentils nine month deployment that one time and

15:02

Bowden not will when children are genuine A

15:04

time when I was like and yes maybe

15:07

enough as he allows you have an answer

15:09

I want to me too little soldiers quickly

15:11

to seek to to judge gave you on

15:13

them I would would say. Misses

15:16

his team was good to see more finale but

15:18

something awful number so it is dangerous Today. And

15:21

that that's out as a bonus if

15:23

you're not going on centrally but those

15:25

two guys on the outside stop government

15:27

The goals against not not was good

15:30

genesis most critical critical for the african

15:32

for them apparently mitchell insular and just

15:34

before we do my of the i

15:36

think it's want to play our due

15:38

to a kind of manly the young

15:40

wonderful but he lost his father couple

15:43

days ago mean terrible news and obviously

15:45

not partner must a squad enough to

15:47

bring wiki hard with he goes he

15:49

says to nice kind of announcement. suits

15:51

and liverpool apple's with here and

15:54

his family for will fail me

15:56

a significant so on something minor

16:01

It's well said, mate. I'm just hoping

16:03

that he saw his son live the dream and

16:05

score the goal

16:10

and have the impact on

16:13

Liverpool Football Club as what

16:15

he has. It's shocking

16:17

to hear that and so often triumph is

16:20

followed by tragedy and it's another situation like

16:22

that. I'm sure I

16:24

bounced back, I'm sure the club and

16:26

the manager are tremendously supportive. We know

16:28

that at this football club. He'll

16:30

be back but out of the side

16:32

Trent Alexander-Arnold coming right full back for

16:35

this game. Joe Gomez would prefer to

16:37

left back. It was a funny, you know

16:40

what Rob, you know sometimes when we all say,

16:42

and it's a cliché in footballs, the

16:44

first five or ten minutes you can kind of

16:47

see how they are and how they're set.

16:50

Arsenal started very quickly. Liverpool

16:53

started very sloppily.

16:56

I thought there was Van Dyke, there was

16:58

Trent. Remember the time Trent gave the ball

17:00

away? There was a sloppiness about Liverpool early

17:05

on that was not

17:08

the body language you want. Arsenal jumped

17:10

all over them and they couldn't get

17:12

out. They couldn't play out, they tried,

17:15

they couldn't get the front players involved,

17:17

they couldn't get the midfield involved at

17:19

all. That is really restricting Liverpool

17:21

when you press them high and

17:24

they haven't got the option over the top

17:26

of Doha and Younes earlier on Rob. It

17:29

was an off day for Liverpool and we'll get

17:31

into some details. But it was an off day.

17:33

Of course they missed their best player. I guess

17:35

J. Jesus was out for Arsenal, Mo Salah is

17:37

still not there, Dominic Sowers lie, I think separate

17:40

a hamstring injury so he wasn't there. Maybe they

17:42

both can argue that there's players that are missing.

17:44

We don't

17:46

often say that about Liverpool, Rob, in a big game that they

17:49

didn't really show up as you'd expect

17:51

them to and I think the team

17:53

and the manager afterwards are pretty magnuminous

17:55

in saying that was a deserved Arsenal

17:58

victory. They Didn't play well. I

18:00

couldn't didn't under the press wealth. And.

18:02

They made mistakes to make mistakes that the but.

18:05

Yeah. But in fairness of and I came

18:07

forward is captain in that little these handle

18:09

on said he did it out with situations

18:11

back to. You know, After our first

18:13

on the south you have less this this can we.

18:15

Can we just talk about Iraq reduced to just go

18:17

into a little bit the gap. There. Is so

18:19

busy woman it was a it will you showed

18:22

on the on the broadcast was a defining moment

18:24

at the gas and was a symbol ball over

18:26

the salton which he got himself in a good

18:28

position yeah to do shielding the ball. And

18:31

he so a so Alison charging off his

18:33

line towards him. Now I got the sense

18:35

that you and team in a few others.

18:38

And in south to be fat. Per.

18:40

Se I could have played it yet. I

18:42

think in a in a moment that he

18:45

looks up goalkeepers rushing out is real close

18:47

to him. He tries to sort out the

18:49

when the goalkeeper deal with it and Alison.

18:52

Mess. The iso in yes the ball

18:54

So I saw in my opinion the

18:56

goalkeeper was a more fault for that.

18:59

goals And Virgil Van Dyke. That's just

19:01

me. Yeah, I've always wanted it to

19:03

gray orders. Times I can scribble on.

19:06

Say no to Tim Hussein. That's.

19:08

One where them that goalkeeper should take charge

19:10

and if he comes to sex is conclusion.

19:12

Have you seen our second Yeah take every

19:14

our yet enemies like Van Dyke if you

19:17

take the he said if it's grandmother t

19:19

that take everything out and and everything goes

19:21

but I'm the same as you have an

19:23

aunt and of I put myself in that

19:25

situation. One of my coaches always said to

19:27

me the closer you get to the goalkeeper

19:29

the more chance of arithmetic the nothing to.

19:31

Yank. The bailout. And so maybe that's

19:33

what some should have done. But.

19:37

Let me say some accounts last on this while via.

19:40

a it was also in my opinion a

19:42

bad judgment from alison to fly off his

19:44

line yeah if he stays ten yards away

19:46

from his golf version find i is go

19:48

size is in control so he could lay

19:50

back to the goalkeeper he could dribble wow

19:53

and and and play the ball out the

19:55

because he committed to that ball over that's

19:57

off the become a panic situation. So for

19:59

me it was an Alison era and listen

20:01

he's a brilliant goal kid which is magnificent

20:04

but that was for me was more of

20:06

an Alison era and then from there Liverpool

20:08

as we said earlier Rob they drove at

20:10

the game didn't really create too

20:12

much and Arsenal were like okay with soaking

20:16

it up and of course Trossard scores

20:19

on the counter attack it just was a poor day

20:21

for Liverpool Rob wasn't it? Yeah absolutely not a great

20:23

day for Liverpool brilliant day for Arsenal

20:25

three goals three points and still very much part

20:28

of the title race. Okay

20:30

my friend let's move it to South London

20:33

from North London we'll go to Stamford Bridge

20:35

we'll go to Chelsea we'll go to four

20:37

goals conceded into back-to-back

20:39

games now four one against Liverpool you kind of

20:41

go oh that's not very good result but it's

20:43

Liverpool four two defeat to

20:45

walls in absolutely no disrespect to

20:47

Gary O'Neill who we've talked on

20:49

and is doing a wonderful job

20:52

but four two defeat at home

20:54

to walls at

20:56

this stage of the season after we

20:58

talked about our friend Mr. Pochettino in

21:00

time and development and progress and it's

21:03

starting to get a bit serious Rob isn't it? Yeah

21:08

I mean this is just it's a shocker isn't it it's

21:10

a shocker I mean the Wolves

21:12

go above them in the league table as

21:15

well yeah you look at the

21:17

team and it's like well this looks you know

21:19

you've got your Sterling you've got your midfield you

21:21

know your expensive midfield players in Moses Coseira and

21:23

Inzo Fernandez in Cucua so I

21:26

watched just for disclosure

21:29

yeah I watched the Man United game same

21:31

game so you watch this when I watch the Man United

21:33

so I can give you more detail on that but of

21:35

course I saw bits of it I saw the highlights I

21:37

saw the team I see you know I know it's Stanford

21:39

Bridge I know against Wolverhampton Wanders they're trying

21:41

to keep a team you know from

21:44

from what they had pre-season it's incredible and

21:46

we said we talked about it on the

21:48

midweek pub where like

21:50

how long before we start say well hang

21:52

on a minute Pochettino like surely

21:54

surely the squad's better I mean Grand Potters

21:56

it was different last year the

22:00

squad changes so much. I

22:02

mean it's making Potter look better every flipping

22:04

week given that you think they're trimming the

22:07

squad. He's out

22:09

and about now. He doesn't look quite off as

22:11

bad does he? Apparently

22:13

they're in a worse position now than they

22:15

were under Potter. Yeah,

22:18

I saw that. They've got less points or

22:20

something or conceded more goals or something. It's

22:24

an astonishing, I'm not going to say too

22:26

much about this Rob, but can you remember

22:28

one of the early podcasts like the second

22:30

week or the third week, I remember saying

22:32

on this show that this is going to

22:34

be a long, tough season for Chelsea because

22:36

given the team I've seen for two or

22:39

three weeks and look at the new players,

22:41

I'm thinking they look very good. They

22:43

just don't look very good and I

22:45

think that is true. Plus, but

22:49

they're still better than what they're doing

22:51

right now. There seems to be no

22:53

fight robbing them. If

22:56

there's one thing you'd say about

22:58

Pochettino that maybe isn't on the same level

23:00

as some of the other

23:03

ones, would it be kind of fight

23:05

and determination and pressing and aggression? I

23:08

know he does it his own way and that's often

23:11

the football side of things which he's trying to do

23:13

at Chelsea, but should we expect more aggression from his

23:15

team or more fight from his team that you might

23:17

expect from a Chelsea team that I

23:19

always regard as being physical, Blim and X, some of

23:21

these from the Chelsea side in the past. I'm

23:24

pointing more at Pochettino now,

23:27

Rob, should he be coaching

23:29

and encouraging his team to be more

23:31

aggressive in the game because that was way too

23:33

easy to lose like that at home to Wolves?

23:35

Yeah, I mean, Poch wants

23:38

to do it a certain way and

23:40

he was assigned to the, and I

23:42

hate the word, but the project to

23:44

develop this young talent and build team.

23:46

We're now what, 22,

23:50

23 games in, we are

23:52

in a situation where I'm not

23:54

sure he knows any more than

23:56

from the first day of the season what is

23:59

best 11. looks like. No

24:01

one unit in the team, the defence if you like

24:03

to pick your best back for all, I'm not sure

24:05

you know. Chilwell's nowhere near the player he was when

24:07

he started the season, I know he's had an injury,

24:09

he doesn't look as committed. Dzorzi looks

24:11

a disaster, never mind Dzorzi. midfield 2

24:14

of Enzo and Kysado, Rob have got

24:16

lots of potential, lots of ability, they

24:18

don't understand the responsibility, the role in

24:20

midfield, what sometimes you have to do

24:23

and hook things on and get things

24:25

away and be solid. There's a front

24:27

line there, apart from Cole

24:29

Palmer, I'm not sure who your

24:31

best wide players are, you've got to centre forwards

24:34

who don't necessarily score that

24:36

many goals. It

24:39

does start to look bad on him, I think he'll

24:41

get the season, as I talked about in the last

24:43

part, I think he'll start next season but I think

24:45

he'll have to hit the ground on him. I think

24:47

he has to change his outlook

24:50

Rob, I think he has to start being

24:52

a little bit tougher and a bit more

24:54

ruthless in saying you know what, you

24:56

play in my team, if you don't do

24:58

well, come sit out, you're out, you're out

25:00

for the next month and go and

25:03

find out Rob. If he

25:05

has to go to top bowl at the end of

25:07

the season and go you know these 10 players here,

25:09

they're not good enough for what we want, they're not

25:11

good enough for Chelsea where we want to go, you

25:14

have to sort that out. I think that's where we're

25:16

getting to with this now because if he doesn't do

25:18

that Rob, I'm a little bit boy point because I

25:20

think it starts to turn on him. 100%

25:25

Rob, I was about to go the same place, it's

25:27

got to turn nasty, it's got to turn more aggressive,

25:29

it's got to start throwing teacups around and get a

25:31

little bit old school because these

25:34

young players that have had accolades, big

25:36

transfer moves, big wages and big moves

25:38

to Chelsea Football Club, there's

25:41

someone like me that hasn't grown up

25:43

yet and I don't know,

25:45

Moses Caesado should know it and I

25:47

saw his anger afterwards and in some

25:50

ways it's good to see that, proper

25:52

emotion, proper anger, he really was upset

25:54

when he came off and I

25:57

think the club needs that, I think you're right Rob, whether

25:59

it's... I

26:03

don't know, listen, we've all had different managers, Rob, and

26:05

I understand that different managers have different styles, different ways,

26:07

but I think at some point, I don't care what

26:09

your mannerisms are, you've got to

26:14

scare the players a little bit, like frighten

26:16

the players. There's got

26:18

to be a bit of fear factor, and

26:21

all the greatest managers, when you think about

26:23

it, they've got a real, you know the

26:25

props got a nasty streak, you know the

26:27

pep's got a nasty streak, Sir Alex Ferguson's

26:29

a legendary hair dryer in your face, blippin'

26:31

hammering players, Kenny Dalgleish, Liverpool, I remember, there's

26:33

a nasty streak in all these guys, and

26:36

maybe he's got it, Poch, but I tell

26:38

you, whichever way it is, this, this, and

26:41

I know that in some ways I've criticised some

26:43

of the recruitment, whether the right quality

26:46

to, but this is still, this

26:48

is unacceptable, 11-place in the league

26:50

table right now, I mean minus

26:52

one goal difference, they conceded more

26:54

than they've scored all season last,

26:57

it's astonishing the underperformance of this

26:59

football club from the recruitment, and

27:01

by the way, I understand, and

27:03

we know that Tom Bode initially at this football

27:05

club had to do a lot of things on

27:08

his own, he had to try and pick the

27:10

players, and with him and Thomas Tuchel, they threw

27:12

some players in there, but now there's the CEO,

27:14

there's two directors of football, they've got the coach

27:16

that they want, like and if you're him, or

27:19

if you're the ownership, clearly like capital, it's like,

27:21

well, okay guys, like, okay, what's going on? I'm

27:23

out of it now, you've got my money, you're

27:25

the pros, I've hired all the

27:27

pros, what's going on? So that,

27:30

I would think, will be coming from the

27:32

owner as well, because we can talk about

27:34

project, we can talk about time, you can talk about your

27:36

two years, Rob, I can talk about some of the players

27:38

that aren't good enough, this is embarrassing, this is embarrassing for

27:40

Chelsea Football Club to be in the

27:43

bottom half of the table below, you know,

27:45

your Wolverhampton Wanderers that we thought

27:47

were going to get relegated, so yeah, I

27:49

mean it's starting to be alarm bells now and there's

27:51

got to be some reaction from the club, from the

27:53

manager and the players in the next game. Absolutely, it

27:55

was one of those days I said on

27:58

air to backs, right now, I draw the ball the

28:00

group of Wolves players behind me, but I know what

28:02

I'm going to get in the group of Chelsea players

28:04

and you think how much have you been spent and

28:06

how much were you. Let's not forget by the way,

28:09

Wolves haven't got Hee-Chang Wang who's the best striker who's

28:11

been away for so much time. Just

28:14

before we move on this mate, I have to

28:16

go there with you because you know Lady Lo

28:18

and her provocative ways. You just

28:20

see it in Portuguese young

28:23

gentleman who's now available not

28:25

working in Italian football. Don't

28:28

even think about it. Let

28:30

me go and finish this

28:32

statement and she suggested, do

28:35

you think if things don't go well

28:37

between now and maybe the end of

28:39

the season, would Mr. Boli

28:42

at all be interested in a conversation

28:44

with a certain Portuguese gentleman who would

28:46

come in, Rob, who would get something.

28:49

Now I said to fit with the

28:51

young players just doesn't work. I don't

28:53

think it's the kind of thing he

28:55

would do right now, but it's

28:58

an interesting angle Robbie must go.

29:02

Well, it is an angle and I

29:04

have heard a little bit of fans talk about it.

29:06

I'm with you Rob with the young players thing. This

29:10

is so not a Jose squad and a

29:12

philosophy of bringing it. It's just so not.

29:14

Apart from the fact the jobs that he's

29:17

done recently have not ended well, the spur

29:19

situation, the anger, the

29:21

bitterness about him continues to grow. You're

29:24

going backwards. He's going

29:26

to, oh no, no, no, no, no,

29:28

no, not in my opinion

29:30

Rob. We all know that

29:33

he'll shake it up, he

29:35

upsets everybody, everybody starts fighting,

29:37

there's horrible player. It

29:40

should end right now. If they end

29:43

up doing that, then I

29:46

kind of give up. I give up in my job.

29:49

I'll take that as if it's happening. Move

29:52

on to Gudetian Park my friend. Move on

29:54

to Gudetian Park. Legal

29:57

game actually. I mean a game weekend mate full

29:59

of... goals this weekend, I

30:01

don't know what quite was in the water. It

30:05

ended up Everton 2, Tottenham 2,

30:08

we showed us in

30:10

really good form, a couple of really

30:12

nice one-titch finishes for Tottenham and the

30:14

non-celebrations against the Everton team, it was

30:16

good to see, obviously got a lot

30:19

of spec for Everton. From Everton's point

30:21

of view, get a goal back through

30:23

Jack Harrison again, goalkeepers, Rob

30:25

Vicario in that situation, we'll maybe

30:28

talk about that. And then Jarrus

30:30

Brantley, who's an absolute

30:32

little big diamond for Everton, came

30:34

late, got ahead, it was a

30:38

really important point I thought for Everton in

30:40

a tough game against the Spurs team, getting bodies

30:42

back in the side team look a little bit

30:44

like that team we saw early in the season.

30:46

So good point for Everton, big

30:49

disappointment I thought for Spurs, got a chance for them

30:51

to cement a place in the

30:54

top four. Where

30:57

are we with the Everton kind of push against relegation

31:01

and where are we with Anandzal because

31:04

it was interesting, two set pieces Spurs

31:07

conceded and is there a sense of

31:09

for all the great football at some point you've

31:12

got to defend better, I mean we're looking today

31:14

about the goals against is quite more

31:18

than anybody else up there in

31:20

the top six. For a

31:22

team who want to win things in

31:24

outside chance before this, people are talking

31:26

about titles, does something

31:29

have to change a little? Does it have to be a little

31:31

tweak? Well

31:34

let me start with Everton Rob and

31:36

I just loved the

31:38

Everton performance. There's nothing, we

31:43

all listen, you know more than anybody else

31:45

Rob, I love the beautiful game right, I'm

31:48

a bit of a purist, maybe because of

31:50

the way I was a player I wasn't that

31:52

type of guy so when I see that sort of

31:54

football I love it and of course I studied the

31:57

game and I love the tactical side of things so

31:59

I love the silky side of football. But

32:01

I tell you what, I like watching

32:03

Everton. The Everton's effort, the energy, the

32:05

never giving up, the pushing, pushing right

32:07

to the end, the physicality around the

32:09

goalkeeper, the brand's way of stepping up

32:11

there, the fan support, the protest before

32:13

the game. I just love the feisty

32:16

nature of Everton, I love their performance,

32:18

all my notes are things

32:20

like determination, passion, you know, amazing drive,

32:22

totally deserve the point, never looked like

32:24

giving up. Can you send that note

32:26

to Chelsea by the way? Can you

32:29

send that note to Slamford Bridge? Well

32:33

that's a million per cent, that's the steal,

32:36

they need a little bit of that. So

32:38

I like watching Everton, I think Dominic Kavalouin

32:40

looks like he's struggling for confidence which is

32:42

not great. I think they missed Onan

32:45

in midfield, Dukore as well

32:48

as they

32:54

go forward. They made it a really difficult

32:56

game for Tottenham and there aren't many teams

32:58

that do that because Spurs football is often

33:00

so good, so slick. But

33:03

I never really, my Tottenham notes are

33:05

things like Micky van der Venne and

33:07

I think it was John Champion who

33:09

called him the flying Dutchman. His speed

33:11

again, as we jump off, is my

33:13

jaw open when I watch him make

33:15

recovery runs. He has the ability to

33:17

play offside and if the play goes on

33:20

he can sprint back anyway. So I love watching

33:22

him. I look

33:24

to it late on Rob, I see

33:27

that Raoul Dragosian, the new centre back

33:29

they brought in, the Romanian I think.

33:31

Dragosian came on, I'm like that kind

33:33

of makes sense. The last five or

33:35

ten minutes from Anj, short

33:37

up, five across the back and they still

33:39

conceded that late set-piece goal

33:41

with Branta Wait. So they're

33:43

still a work in progress and I think he

33:45

would say that. I think Madison and van der

33:48

Venne coming back is big. I think Everton away

33:50

is just a difficult game Rob. Everton away is

33:52

a difficult game and Richard Wilson, the other thing

33:54

really that I've made note of is finishes and

33:56

how he looks different. I mean the

33:58

finish on his first one, yeah. and just

34:00

a little bit of class, a little bit of

34:02

composure. He looks a different player, and he's one

34:04

of those that you can see what his confidence

34:06

is like by watching him run around a little

34:08

bit. And his head, it's soft,

34:10

and his head goes down when he gives a

34:12

book. But he looks good. So human son to

34:15

come back, the players get him fit again. Persuamer,

34:18

I think, has always missed in the middle of the

34:20

park, even though I kind of like what Bentoncourt does.

34:22

Huybert does his thing. And

34:25

I just, I prefer, I'm a fan of Brennan

34:27

Johnson, but I still prefer Kuduszewski, I think, on

34:29

that wide position. So they're in a good spot,

34:31

I suppose. Well, they couple of points behind Aston

34:33

Villa. But it was more about Everton for me,

34:36

Rob. And the 10 points, they're going to wait

34:38

to hear back from that. Then they're going to

34:40

wait to hear if they're going to get another

34:42

deduction on them. So

34:45

I just, I enjoyed Everton's fight.

34:47

And my last Premier League minutes

34:49

were at Everton, and not a bad place to bow

34:51

out at Everton because of what it

34:53

is as a stadium. The fans are like five

34:55

yards away from you. And

34:58

they're an aggressive bunch, they're a lively bunch.

35:00

And the team play with that. The

35:02

manager's perfect for them right now. I know they're in the

35:06

throes of a relegation fight. They're still in the

35:08

bottom three now. They're still in the bottom three,

35:10

yeah. Nineteen points, but it's interesting, Rob, because it's

35:12

similar to you. And I

35:15

sort of said to Bek, this is

35:17

a game about structure and organisation against

35:20

fluidity and spontaneous and motivations. And it

35:22

was interesting because I said, in a

35:24

strange way, Bek, it's harder

35:26

to do what Dijk does with his set of players

35:28

than And. And, listen, you've

35:31

got possession, I think it's pleasing. I

35:33

know he's looking for rotations, but I

35:35

want to play... Everybody wants to play like

35:38

And with freedom and, you know, expressing yourself.

35:40

I think for Dijk, you have to keep

35:42

working in a certain way. You know, players

35:44

have to be in certain positions. We have

35:46

to be well set up, and then we

35:48

break, and then we... And I just

35:50

think it's a really hard job that

35:53

he does, that he gets to tune out

35:55

of his players every week. And, listen, some

35:57

days it doesn't quite work and... If

36:00

they hadn't got the 10 points, we wouldn't be talking in the

36:02

same way. But I just

36:04

think, yeah, like you, he deserves a little

36:06

bit of credit for what they're doing and

36:08

the way they are. They're

36:10

so short of confidence

36:13

in the attack. Beto comes on and

36:15

it's a bit clumsy. I know

36:17

people thought he was a penalty. I wasn't so

36:19

sure about that one. Kavett Lewin thinks he scored

36:22

and ends up coming off Harrison, so he doesn't

36:24

get his goal. I think that's 17 games now,

36:26

Rob, in all competitions. He has not

36:28

scored. And as you say, I think that's all they

36:30

get in his head. So they're

36:32

going to have to work with him. They're going

36:34

to have to give him the confidence. So, yeah,

36:37

I thought it was a hard end point, but

36:39

a well-earned point for Everton. Just from the

36:41

first point of view, Rob, and Rich Allison in

36:44

the goals, and now he's confident, and I

36:46

think it was his ninth penalty goal of

36:48

the season. Sonny comes back,

36:50

my friend. Sonny comes back. Where

36:53

does Sonny go and where does Rich Allison

36:55

go in that situation? I mean, have we

36:58

got to be careful that we don't automatically

37:00

take attention away from Richie again and

37:02

we go back to the frustrated, not

37:04

scoring, or how can we dovetail that

37:06

we get the best from both of

37:08

them? Can Sonny still come

37:11

from one of those wider positions? Did he like

37:13

under Kane and still be as dangerous? I

37:16

think so. I think he comes straight in on the left-hand side, Rob.

37:19

I said this a while back. If Rich

37:21

Allison can be a central player that can

37:23

score a regular goal, which he's absolutely doing

37:25

right now, that's huge for Tottenham. Because then

37:28

you put another goal scorer on the left-hand

37:30

side, you've got a creative player now fit

37:32

again in James Madison, and for me, you

37:34

play Koulousevski on the left side, so a

37:36

4-2-3-1 with Heung-Minh's on the left, Madison, Koulousevski,

37:38

and De Charnes. I think that's what the

37:41

fans are... Koulousevski is on the

37:43

right, Rich Allison up front, a confident Rich

37:45

Allison that will link now with Heung-Minh's son.

37:47

You've got James Madison to roll

37:49

balls. Wherever Rich Allison is

37:51

good is he gets on the half turn, so his shoulders

37:53

facing the goal can kind of see... You can see the

37:56

goal, but he also sees the pass, and

37:58

Madison's brilliant at those. You've got the runs... from

38:00

outside of Xiong Win Son, you got the creativity

38:02

and the little link-up play of Kuduszewski. I

38:05

just think that's exciting for Spurs fans, and I as

38:07

a fan of the game, I want to see it.

38:09

I want to see it. So I don't think that's

38:11

a hard question, Rob. I know Werner's done okay, got

38:13

a couple of assists in me during the week, couple

38:15

of crosses that led to goals, fair play to Werner,

38:17

and that's a good little... I

38:19

don't know, he's a good player to have in

38:21

the club for the end of the season. If

38:23

a Schalzmann goes quiet, Son might go up front,

38:25

Werner comes left, or Werner goes up front. It's

38:28

a good acquisition, but Son back on the left

38:30

with Schalzmann up front, that

38:32

with Madison prompting, I still think... And

38:35

Van der Veen's fit now, Romero's fit

38:37

now, you got a Dragoszcian as another

38:39

central defender, Porro's excellent, your doggy had

38:41

a weird game. Yeah, so

38:44

I think that Tottenham's best, and I want to

38:47

see it now. Now in the

38:49

end of the season, when someone comes back, they

38:51

can kick on. They can kick on, and they

38:53

can overcome Villa for me, they can overcome Aston

38:55

Villa in that top four. It's going to be

38:57

an amazing race, but I want to see the

38:59

best. Yeah, it's going to be a race for

39:01

that one, top four. Okay, my

39:03

friend, we're going to move to Old Trafford, and

39:05

you're going to tell me how the youngsters of

39:07

Manchester United are dragging them

39:10

back into some contention. You're going to tell

39:12

me about a possible European place, have they

39:14

still got chance to top four? You're going

39:16

to tell me about an injury to Los

39:19

Angeles Martinez that didn't look great,

39:22

and before it saw that it

39:24

could be something a little bit

39:26

more long-term than the

39:28

first thought. Well,

39:31

I'll start with that, Rob, and it's one of them where his

39:33

leg kind of got stuck a little bit, and the weight of

39:35

a player kind of buckled it a little bit in his knee.

39:38

Again, we don't know how bad it is,

39:40

he tried to continue, I believe, and then

39:42

he went off. Not

39:45

great. He's

39:48

such an important player, Rob. I mean, I know

39:51

there was the whole thing about his height and everything else,

39:53

but if you notice that he's come

39:55

back in the centre back, and not only are they defending

39:57

better, but there's a spirit about it. all

40:00

high-fiving and they're fist pumping each other

40:02

and he has that energy. He's a

40:04

good defender. You know,

40:06

it was Maguire who got started today. I

40:08

mean, Maguire made a couple of mistakes again

40:10

and the goalkeeper helped him out. So

40:13

that is a real blow. Customer back in

40:16

the midfield, he's holding in midfield. It's

40:18

not too alongside. He plays on his own, to his

40:20

left, his Bruno, to his right, his

40:22

main room. And yeah,

40:24

there was a shot-rob. I

40:27

think you know the goal-scorers are Oylen

40:31

scored a goal. There's one shot. I

40:33

think it was Maynu, Ghanachu and

40:36

Raza-Horton sat together. Sit on the

40:38

advertising thing. The shot was from

40:40

behind the arms. You've

40:43

got to think that's a bright

40:45

future for Manchester United. I think

40:48

that going forward,

40:50

Rob, to summarise the game a

40:52

little bit, they look really dangerous,

40:54

really dangerous in possession,

40:57

playing their football now a lot better. But

41:00

obviously in the counter-attack as well. They're

41:02

so quick on the counter-attack, so much talent.

41:04

I mean, Oylen takes his

41:06

goal really well. Lovely, classy little fake

41:09

inside, right foot into the corner. And

41:12

Ghanachu is going to

41:15

be a star player. All right. I think

41:17

he's going to be a star player. He's going

41:19

to be better than Rashford ever is or ever

41:21

would be. He's going to be certainly better than

41:23

Anthony. He's going to be right there. And I'm

41:25

chucking that in right now. I think he's a

41:27

special talent that's getting better with more games, with

41:29

more first-team, with more maturity. I think he's going

41:31

to be a very, very good player for them.

41:33

And the striker looks like he's getting comfortable and

41:36

the goals are coming. He looks like scoring all

41:38

the time now. They weren't coming the Premier League.

41:40

They were coming the Champions League. They had really

41:42

good finishes, so he knew he could do it.

41:44

The problem is defensively,

41:47

Manchester United. And you

41:49

know, there's work to be done there. It's

41:51

like, I don't know, what was I thinking

41:53

of? It's like they,

41:55

and Maguire play, so this may be a

41:57

big part of it. I know that our Danny Higginbotham

41:59

talks. about if it's

42:01

not quick defenders they drop off, United

42:04

want to go forward and there's big spaces

42:06

between them and I agree with him. If

42:08

Manchester United were more aggressive in a higher

42:10

line, and we've seen that with Liverpool, we

42:12

see it with Spurs, we see it with

42:14

Aston Villa, what that

42:16

does, it keeps the game in their opponent's

42:19

half, it keeps them pinned in and

42:21

they don't get played through as much. They can

42:23

get played through Man United because of the spaces

42:25

between the defensive line, the midfield line and the

42:27

front players it gets a little bit too big.

42:30

Higher line, push them in and yeah

42:32

you're a little bit vulnerable over the top and that's

42:34

the problem and that's what Maguire got caught with the

42:37

ball over the top and that's why it makes

42:39

them a little bit deeper. So quicker

42:41

defenders in the recruitment window,

42:43

higher line because the attacking

42:45

stuff is looking better. I'm

42:47

not going to say it's brilliant because the data

42:49

in fact right now still isn't

42:51

amazing, they've still got one minus one goal

42:54

difference but the main

42:56

new silky player, Ghanacho is improving by

42:58

the week and so is Rasmus

43:00

Høyland. Rashford looks happier and brighter and had a

43:02

few moments but it's

43:04

a good looking front four when

43:06

you chuck in there Bruno Fernandes

43:09

and Coby Mayneux that was prompting in

43:11

midfield. So yeah reasons to

43:13

be optimistic, it was a good solid

43:16

90 minutes that we don't often get

43:18

from Manchester United against a team by the way in

43:20

West Ham that can be, they can frustrate you, they

43:22

can part the bus, they can play deep and they

43:24

can frustrate you but this was a

43:27

classy day for Manchester United where we

43:29

jumped on them when they've been awful

43:32

or inconsistent and maybe I'm not saying

43:35

Rob, I'm not saying things like well

43:37

Høyland did

43:39

something amazing, they played pretty

43:42

crappy but somebody did something special. This wasn't

43:44

that, this isn't one of those, this was

43:46

they look really good, they look really good

43:48

in the attacking phase, keep

43:50

hold of that please and be stronger. They conceded,

43:52

I mean this is a clean sheet but they

43:55

conceded a lot of goals before that, that continues

43:57

to be the, I mean there's a

43:59

clean sheet in this. game but there was chances that's

44:02

where they can get better but this was this

44:04

was pretty encouraging Rob. Yeah, second in the table mate

44:06

you know if they could have

44:08

a great run and maybe have a look at

44:10

one of them Champions League or certainly European football

44:13

that's got to be the aim for 10-0. Not

44:15

a great day for David Morgan

44:17

turning back to Old Trafford, didn't obviously see much

44:19

of this game just some highlights and things but

44:21

didn't have too many looks at it I didn't

44:24

see West Ham and Arnhem made a decent save

44:26

early from a deflected effort and one

44:28

or two effort second half but didn't look as though

44:30

it was quite their day for West Ham. Not

44:34

as defensively strong as you might expect,

44:37

Calvin Phillips again made a

44:40

big error yeah

44:42

but he came on and made a big big

44:44

error getting caught on the ball you know he's

44:47

in that position and this is it's so interesting

44:49

because people don't realize how hard

44:52

it is in general in the Premier League and particularly

44:55

in midfield and particularly going back to the back four

44:57

to link things together you have got no safety net

44:59

if you're not quite sharp you make the bad decision

45:01

your touch isn't perfect then the opponents

45:03

will take the ball off you, it happened again,

45:06

it looks like down in the dumps and

45:08

David Morgan's got to do his job.

45:10

He hasn't played much football, he's trained

45:12

as much as you are,

45:15

you need to play games and you need

45:17

match fitness and that's something he's going to

45:20

have to get. Hopefully

45:22

for him and for England and get

45:25

his career back on track and get

45:27

up to speed. Alright mate

45:29

we're going to talk about just finish

45:31

off with a few other results from the

45:33

weekend. I'm going to start with Bramall Lane

45:36

on this one. Chef United, Chris

45:39

Wilder my friend I think had a go

45:41

at the referees before the game and we

45:43

talked about Siege mentality and he's an old

45:45

head who knows what he's doing he's looking

45:48

to poke the dressing room and get them

45:50

going. Didn't work really got beat 5-0 by

45:52

the way, surrendered at

45:54

5-0. McGinn with

45:57

the first goal after Watkins hits a post,

45:59

Watkins gets a second,

46:01

Bailey gets a third in 20

46:03

minutes of 3-0 down, Tilleman smashes

46:05

a fourth just before half time,

46:07

half of Bramall Lane empties out,

46:09

Sheffield United fans had seen enough,

46:11

into the second half think oh maybe there might

46:13

be a comeback, Moreno smashes one in two minutes

46:16

into the second half, five now, meant to be

46:18

fair Villa, done

46:20

job done mate, put the feet up,

46:23

Sheffield United had a goal disallowed for a

46:25

very minor offside, did work

46:28

to set piece of routine I think the Suzu

46:30

ended up scoring but that didn't count, it was

46:32

one of those days Sheffield

46:34

United mate and I said already

46:36

having to think about what happens

46:38

in the championship next year because

46:41

dead and buried, not you know

46:45

done not yeah not enough fight defensively all

46:47

over the place, he played the back three

46:49

Rob which is his go-to, there's a back

46:51

three that looks so porous, he

46:53

played Ocelot up top, he's a young lad who's

46:55

come through Academy maybe a lot

46:57

of talent, he has Archer on the bench who

46:59

can score goals, he had Homer on the bench,

47:01

things I just couldn't quite understand, they're in a

47:04

bit of trouble and he needs to start thinking

47:06

about next season now and how they might be

47:08

looking to get out of the championship. Yeah

47:11

there was an emotional pull for Chris Wilder and

47:15

I think to be fair you

47:18

know there was an improvement in the performance level

47:20

for Sheffield United, they weren't winning games, they were

47:22

losing by fewer and they were more team together

47:24

and I remember the words that he said to

47:26

his board of directors don't give up on us,

47:28

give us some money because I wouldn't say that

47:30

if I didn't think we had a real chance

47:32

of staying up well that's gone now, yeah that's

47:34

gone now just not enough quality I mean fight

47:36

I mean I think you know I think

47:38

a Chris Wilder team generally has fight I

47:41

think a Sheffield United fans generally demand fight,

47:43

yeah Sheffield United aren't a good enough team

47:45

not to be able to fight so I

47:47

think there's there is kind of some physicality

47:49

in them Rob but if it's you know

47:51

quality wise, position wise I got to be

47:53

honest I didn't see it, no no I'll

47:55

tell you what I saw as well Rob

47:57

on social media was um So

48:00

Chris Wilder, again, I'm not

48:02

100% sure of my facts here, I'm going by a

48:04

social media report, I think it was a journalist that

48:06

had reported this. Did you see it, Rob, where he

48:08

went to, he was talking to

48:10

a reporter on TV and saying, someone like, oh, I want

48:12

to see the referee afterwards. I

48:15

guess to ask him about something. And the referee's

48:17

assistant was eating his sandwich. Yeah, that was the head

48:19

of the game, that was the head of the game,

48:21

mate. It was the head of the game. Was it?

48:24

And he was the head of the game. It was the head

48:26

of the game, and that's what I was saying. I think he

48:28

did it as a, right, us against the world, siege mentality. They

48:31

were talking like, we're the team, we're

48:33

going to get relegated. Disrespectful, I'm the Premier League manager

48:35

in the room. Yeah, I'm

48:38

not sure. What a strange thing

48:40

to say. I'm not sure what, again,

48:42

I think it's a siege mentality. I think

48:44

it's a leaf out of the Joseph Mourinho

48:47

playbook. Us against the world, everybody hates us,

48:49

we're not getting results, come on, lads, let's

48:51

go and show them. Well,

48:53

that's what I say, didn't work, we lost 5-0,

48:56

and Chris. I thought it was unbelievable. So

48:58

that was before the game. So he basically said, oh, you

49:00

know, a lack of respect there. He's talking, he's in the

49:02

same room as a Premier League manager. Wow.

49:06

Big ego. Well, you're not going

49:08

to be a Premier League manager much longer. No, I think

49:10

the Premier League manager much longer. Yeah,

49:12

I thought that. I just saw the interview.

49:15

OK. It's just St. James'

49:17

Park, because I know, I mean, four-four,

49:19

Luton, eight goals in two games, four

49:21

against Bryant, four against Newcastle, incredible. Rob

49:23

Edwards continues to be in

49:26

the running for manager of the year. He

49:28

keeps his Luton town team up. Yeah. Played

49:31

football school goals,

49:34

despite Julian four-four and being four-two up,

49:36

I think you take confidence from what's

49:38

happened. Anything

49:42

more on Newcastle and Luton, mate, you want

49:44

to take? Yeah,

49:47

I mean, it's astonishing the fight we talked about in

49:49

the last pub, Rob, about I just couldn't believe the

49:51

score line. I think I was watching another game. I

49:53

think it's this crazy window, and I'm like, I've got

49:55

to switch over. This is what is going on at

49:58

St James' Park. I switched over and I saw Luton.

50:00

team getting more chances, scored another goal, I think it

50:02

was. I mean it's kind of, it's remarkable what they're

50:04

doing. It's pretty simple football, it's not complicated, they're not

50:06

trying to be a modern team and play through the

50:09

lines. They get it forward, they get it wide, they

50:11

swing balls into the center, they're good at set pieces,

50:13

they've got some physicality and it's

50:16

astonishing, absolutely astonishing what they're doing at the moment

50:18

and I think, you know, when I look at

50:20

a player in midfield, Rob, and I'm gonna jump

50:22

to my underappreciated performer, and I think this week,

50:24

right, I think we've gone for two particularly

50:27

good ones. I think Joerg Gino, Arsenal,

50:29

is a really good shout and

50:32

I think I've got a good shout

50:34

here as well, an underappreciated Ross Barkley,

50:37

Ross Barkley, and maybe we're a week or two

50:39

too late, Rob, maybe fans of football,

50:42

Premier League fans, and I know Luton fans have appreciated

50:44

him for what he's done. I watch him play now

50:46

for the last few weeks pretty closely and wow,

50:50

he's 30 years of age I believe, he's got, I think

50:52

he's got three goals, three assists in

50:54

a team like that, playing in the middle of

50:56

the park, not an advanced midfield position, a

50:58

midfield general, one of the two holding

51:00

players, he looks classy, he looks

51:03

like that he's

51:05

enjoying being the main man, being

51:08

the main man, being the star

51:10

player, Chelsea and others, he's

51:13

always looked a little bit lost, he looked a

51:15

little bit disengaged, he looks a little bit, like,

51:18

kind of insecure in some

51:20

ways, I don't know but

51:22

he's mature now, he's skillful,

51:24

he drives, he tackles back,

51:27

I mean his attitude, his superb his

51:29

mentality looks spot-on and you know

51:31

maybe he has been underappreciated for earlier parts of

51:33

his career, he shouldn't

51:35

be right now, shouldn't be right now, the job he's

51:37

doing for that club and his Andros Town's in there

51:40

as well, good recruitment of course,

51:42

you've got to credit the club for bringing him in and making

51:44

him the main man at the club and my goodness,

51:47

he looks classy Rob, he looks he looks, he looks

51:49

that oftentimes, and again I didn't see all of this

51:51

game because the game's gone at the same time, but

51:53

he looks the best midfield player in the

51:55

game, he's played against some of the bigger boys

51:57

playing for Luton in those games, he looks like

52:00

the best midfield player in the game. So I

52:02

thought about Ross Barkley a couple of weeks, the

52:05

results, they've got to win, they've got to draw.

52:07

He's definitely my underappreciated and deserves to mention

52:09

Ross Barkley from a little bit lost, a

52:11

little bit Ross Barkley to being right back

52:14

in the Premier League and looking by the

52:16

way like one of the best central midfield

52:18

players, particularly English ones, in the league right

52:20

now. So just loving, loving the way that

52:22

he's playing for Luton. It's a great shout

52:24

mate, not least because

52:27

anybody could have taken him, was it Leon where

52:30

he last was in France? Was it Nese?

52:32

I think, yeah you might have. Well a

52:35

few English players,

52:40

Casper Smickel I think and one or two

52:42

were there. And it was one

52:44

of those where I think people looked and everybody

52:46

sort of said nah, I mean you see it

52:48

here, it's done now, no heart,

52:50

is he going to have the drive? Well

52:52

Rob Edwards has pushed the buttons, we

52:55

know he's got talent, he's come out and as you

52:57

say, listen, he's against

52:59

Bruno Guimarez against

53:01

the Newcastle game, it was a wonderful player for Newcastle. I'll

53:03

tell you what, there ain't much between the two of them,

53:05

there ain't an awful lot between those

53:07

two, so yeah it's a really good shout. And

53:11

he's the sort of player who one or

53:13

two I think would be looking at Ambi's

53:15

eyes because he could still do a job

53:17

in other teams. Brilliant for Luton, he looks

53:19

really committed, he looks like he's enjoying his

53:21

football which is a really important thing. So

53:24

yeah great shout Ross Barkey, must have

53:27

been under appreciated perform

53:29

of the week. Okay

53:32

mate, last minute, to the

53:34

Amex, it's a big local

53:36

rivalry, it's Brighton facing Crystal Palace, if there's

53:38

one game that Palace want to win all

53:41

season, it's Brighton at home and Brighton

53:43

away. Didn't go

53:45

to plan, Brighton having got beat 4-0

53:47

by Luton, put four goals past

53:49

Palace, early header from

53:51

Dunke, shots to tone, hinch of wood with

53:54

a header in the four post and Bwenenotte

53:56

with a lovely finish, put

53:59

them three and a half minutes. time, Matata pulled one

54:01

back into the second

54:03

half before Pedro scored a beautiful goal.

54:05

I think it's 19, 17,

54:07

18, something in all competitions now for

54:09

Pedro. A

54:12

little bit of detail in this one, Rob, it

54:15

was a Palace team that didn't

54:17

really start the game well, three and

54:19

a half down at halftime. Michael Elise

54:21

was on the bench as he wasn't

54:23

involved, however apparently

54:26

Roy Hudson spoke to medical people, they asked

54:28

how Elise he was, I think they

54:31

said he's 45 minutes in him, so

54:33

he made the change. That lasted nine

54:36

minutes Rob and he had to come

54:38

off with a hamstring. There were some

54:41

unsavoury scenes at the end of the game

54:43

between Palace fans and Palace players and I

54:46

wouldn't say he went over the

54:48

top but there was definitely disagreement and some of the

54:50

Palace fans I think saying you know you've got to

54:52

do more for the shirt, if you wear this badge

54:54

it's got to mean a little bit more than what we're seeing.

54:58

More kind of gossip around the

55:00

Roy Hudson situation, I just feel

55:03

it's becoming really really awkward at

55:05

this moment. Yeah

55:09

I mean there's no question Rob this is

55:11

an absolute shocker of a result and the

55:14

Michael Elise says such a bad look, it's

55:16

such an unprofessional Mickey Mouse

55:18

flipping the dog and duck have

55:20

team type of look, it's awful,

55:23

awful where you you're okay to start

55:25

a player to play a player off

55:27

the bench and you know I

55:30

mean Roy Hudson's got to be able to trust his medical team

55:32

hasn't he? I mean is there any

55:34

blame on, can he, I don't

55:36

know. I know there are indications

55:40

when did the medical people pay the

55:42

lady, did Elise say say I'm fine,

55:44

did Roy say you know I need

55:46

you, I need you, can you get

55:48

out there, we don't know, maybe some

55:50

of that might come out, maybe not

55:52

but I just think it's another spotlight

55:55

on Roy, this unrest Rob ain't going

55:57

away with unless results change quickly.

56:00

quickly. I

56:02

wouldn't like this to continue and Roy have

56:04

to go through the last part of his

56:06

career each week having to deal with these

56:09

kind of situations. I would rather something mutual

56:11

be done. Now I'm not saying that that's

56:13

the right decision, but when you see Roy

56:15

Hodgson and a man of that standing being

56:18

affected in this way, it's not a good look

56:20

for him, it's not a good look for the

56:23

football club and Crystal Palace obviously fans are not

56:25

happy. I

56:27

think now Rob we're on game

56:29

by game with Roy Hodgson. I mean I've

56:31

got to say I still

56:34

feel right and listen like

56:37

I said it's game by game. Surely

56:40

if the club somehow and the fans

56:43

can calm

56:45

a little bit and get behind the

56:47

current manager, get behind the team, I

56:50

feel like the more drama they create

56:53

and we know as players Rob,

56:55

we've both been in struggling teams, having

56:57

a terrible run. The more angry the

57:00

fans are, the more protests there are,

57:02

the more vitriol, the more oohs and

57:04

ahs and boos, the worse it gets

57:07

for the players and

57:09

of course the manager in trying to do your

57:11

job. They're not in a relegation, they're not in

57:13

the bottom three right now and again it's easy

57:15

for me to say I don't have a dog

57:17

in this and I'm not sure the Palace fans

57:20

are very angry about what's happened but

57:22

I think it's a time for the club to stick

57:24

together to be honest with you. Now anything,

57:27

if Chelsea, if Crystal Palace find

57:30

themselves in the bottom three the next few weeks then

57:33

I get it, make a change, like

57:35

desperation time but I still think that

57:38

he, you know, what's

57:42

somebody else going to do Rob? What's somebody else going to

57:44

do when you haven't got a visa? You've got to start

57:46

thinking about who's the five part, I think it's Paddy now,

57:53

I think it's the guy who was

57:55

in charge before, he's assistant with Roy

57:57

now, he held the runts before.

58:00

I don't know if there'd be a thought about him.

58:02

You're talking about who could go in for, you know

58:04

How many games is it now 15 games

58:06

and get things right? They're

58:08

obviously a different team when Elise say and as

58:10

they are in the side as we saw last

58:12

week against Yeah, that doesn't change Rob when they

58:15

can't change, you know, and when they don't play

58:17

you it Comes a little

58:19

bit more ordinary, but listen the Palace fans

58:21

are fans who get behind the team and

58:23

really support We've known about Germany, but it's

58:26

a lot sellers pop So obviously there's a

58:28

real disconnect at the moment and important

58:30

weeks of Palace and the ownership group and

58:32

the manager just try and stick together They

58:35

can get through some difficult times and for

58:37

Roy to finish his career Managing if this

58:39

is gonna be the end of

58:41

it some way that he can get a little

58:43

bit more enjoyment than what we saw At the

58:45

Amex book good response for Brighton For

58:48

now for now. Yeah No,

58:50

just what I just wanted to add there, you know, of

58:53

course, this is you know I'm asking

58:55

I'm sort of suggesting the fans kind of get

58:57

behind. I understand the game

58:59

against Brighton I understand that that's not

59:01

acceptable. So that's a natural

59:03

reaction I would just you know,

59:06

I don't know. I just hope I just think

59:08

the best way forward That's that's probably the best way

59:10

of doing it The best way to help this club

59:12

right now is to stick together and to change the

59:14

flippin The vibe around the place and get

59:16

behind the team because I'll tell you without as a

59:18

and Elise say it's not gonna be easy Anybody

59:20

coming in is not gonna be playing silky football and

59:23

play us off out of this trouble and into to

59:25

Wonderland It's gonna be a grind and Roy

59:28

Hodgson is not a bad grinder and he

59:30

had a result last time before this one

59:32

I just think that would be the better way to go

59:35

and and yeah, just just on Brighton robbed at their

59:37

last defeat I think deserve deserve he

59:39

said the biggest defeat that was some reaction

59:41

Yeah, some reaction some performance a loon they

59:43

got beat by loon That was some reaction

59:45

and those young play taught young players of

59:47

Manchester United Brighton have still

59:49

got you know, they've got job Pedro and

59:51

born a not a and Jack Inchwood You talk

59:54

about underappreciated players and players to watch particularly

59:57

Inchwood and born a not a typical

59:59

Brighton side It brought another one from Argentina in the

1:00:01

window by the way, you try and even have a

1:00:03

chance to look at yeah Yeah, the recruitment's pretty good

1:00:06

Yeah, incredible yeah On

1:00:15

this one Burley to fall them to

1:00:17

form go to a lot Paulina moon

1:00:19

needs with the gold and then that's

1:00:21

it for foreigner I'm known from Chelsea

1:00:23

got a couple of goals late on

1:00:26

for Burley really important 90

1:00:28

plus 1 minutes equalizer for Burnley

1:00:31

so we're good come back point

1:00:34

for Vincent company and

1:00:36

his team obviously real disappointment Or

1:00:39

Marcus silver go to know up and not but they

1:00:41

did get bro you on the pitch I think came

1:00:43

on late on to have a little bit of run

1:00:45

on so that's gonna be exciting to see him how

1:00:47

he fits Can he be the new mitt of it

1:00:49

for Fulham? Robert I'm gonna be interested to see how

1:00:52

he does and you know just on

1:00:54

the basis of knowing he's gonna play every week

1:00:56

And you can start to get his head on

1:00:58

getting some regular Premier League football So I think

1:01:00

it's a really great loan move for for them

1:01:04

It's a great loan move. I think they're paying four million pounds

1:01:06

on there for five million pounds depending on the parents is

1:01:08

it goes down in the morning place Yeah,

1:01:12

yeah, so that's a really good move and so

1:01:14

stature for fauna by the way unknown from Chelsea

1:01:16

for Burnley I mean that you

1:01:18

know if you look at the big table

1:01:20

now, they're still what seven points from safety

1:01:22

I like I like the signing

1:01:24

for them as well to try and do something going

1:01:26

forward I think I've got some nice traveling or midfield

1:01:28

players, but maybe he can spark something of

1:01:30

course very difficult for that position now They've got to

1:01:32

be gone some run to get out of relegation

1:01:35

zone But as two clubs

1:01:37

Rob the you know looking for strikers. They've

1:01:39

actually found one Yeah, he's found a striker,

1:01:41

but bro. Sure is particularly you know he

1:01:43

was he was excellent So down to Robert

1:01:45

me he was actually a bit of a

1:01:47

beast of a player Loved

1:01:49

him there, and he's just lost his way

1:01:52

a little bit about injury that he's

1:01:54

back from now So yeah good work for both

1:01:56

clubs and good result, and we'll watch how the

1:01:58

teams now these strikers do going forward. In

1:02:01

the final game at Vitality, Bournemouth won, not in

1:02:03

the forest, won private with an early goal for

1:02:05

Bournemouth, Hudson and Dory with an equalizer for Forest

1:02:07

and on that game Philip Billing came on, I

1:02:09

think he was on the pitch about 30 minutes

1:02:11

out of a red card. It looked like it

1:02:13

was one of them, bit of a clumsy challenge,

1:02:15

I was a little surprised he got a red

1:02:17

card but he went down the back of somebody's,

1:02:21

sort of back of the ankle, Achilles, but

1:02:23

it kind of looked like a

1:02:25

foul, I was a little surprised he was straight

1:02:27

red card. Yeah,

1:02:30

you know what, listen, there's a zillion games,

1:02:32

it's hard to watch every inch into every game,

1:02:34

but I saw the highlight and I saw Philip

1:02:36

Billing kind of reach and trip him up, he's

1:02:38

breaking away, he reached onto the back

1:02:40

of his foot and brought him down and

1:02:43

then I saw a red card, I was like, was that his second

1:02:45

yellow card? But it was a straight red,

1:02:47

I checked, it was a straight red. I mean,

1:02:50

there was no excessive force, it was... Felt

1:02:52

a bit weird. I mean, let's not get into

1:02:54

it. No, it's maybe one you can appeal, we'll

1:02:56

see if the FA tune it, man, but... Yeah,

1:02:59

maybe. What a big weekend of goals,

1:03:01

mate. I'm in studio

1:03:03

tomorrow with Danny Hingingbottom, Brenton, for Manchester

1:03:05

City, that's 2pm Eastern on the USA

1:03:07

Network, but that's it for this potty.

1:03:09

We've had a weekend full of goals

1:03:12

when Arsenal won the big match at

1:03:14

the Emirates, it's very relevant in the

1:03:16

title race. Brenton beat Palace, Billard got

1:03:18

victory over Sheffield United and it was

1:03:21

a young Manchester United scorers

1:03:23

who got the points for them today and taken a second

1:03:25

in the table. We'll be back next

1:03:27

Sunday, that February 11th when we recap,

1:03:29

Manchester City 24. For now, I know

1:03:32

he's must be together with the two

1:03:34

Robbie transmission listeners. Be safe, stay healthy,

1:03:37

it's good night from him. Alice,

1:03:40

good night from him. Good

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night.