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For the ones who get it done. Hello
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and welcome to the two Robby's podcast,
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your destination for in-depth discussion analysis
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of the Premier League. I'm Robbie Musto.
1:20
He's Robbie Erland. Here are today's topics.
1:23
Liverpool put in a dominating display with a
1:25
4-1 win over Chelsea on the heels of
1:27
Jurgen Klopp's shock announcement that he's stepping down
1:29
as Liverpool manager at the end of the
1:32
season. Manchester United win a wild win at
1:34
Wolves with their teenage sensation. Copy Mainley scoring
1:36
the late winner. Manchester City continue
1:39
to put pressure on League leaders Liverpool with
1:41
a 3-1 win over Burnley and Arsenal
1:43
patiently break down a tight-knit Nottingham Forest
1:45
defence to win 2-1 at the City
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Ground. That's what we've got coming up
1:49
in today's episode. OK,
1:55
Mr. Musto. Busy
1:57
week, midweek, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. We're
1:59
going to start at Anfield yesterday,
2:02
if I get my days right,
2:04
a 4-1 win for Liverpool
2:08
against a bit
2:10
of a hapless Chelsea, a Pochettino's
2:12
team. What were
2:14
your thoughts and take away, especially
2:17
in light of the Klopp news
2:19
in terms of the Klopp
2:22
and everything around
2:24
this game? There's a
2:26
huge spotlight on Jürgen Klopp and
2:28
the team, and what kind
2:30
of effect his words are going to have?
2:32
I remember back to the Sir Alex
2:35
Ferguson days when he said
2:37
that he was going to
2:39
retire and then he had to go back on it
2:42
because he didn't feel as though things were right in
2:44
the football club. Far from
2:46
that in Liverpool, in some respects, it
2:48
almost feels like it might be something
2:50
that drives him even further. We
2:53
haven't had the chance to react to the
2:55
news, Rob, so I guess as we are
2:57
summing up this game, I think we can
2:59
chuck in bits about Jürgen Klopp, Rob. I
3:03
think after the game, I looked at
3:05
that performance, which was stunning from Liverpool.
3:08
From start to finish, with
3:10
the energy, the counter-pressing,
3:13
which he is very famous for,
3:16
as soon as they lose the ball, they're straight back,
3:18
they win the ball back from Chelsea. I
3:20
don't really know how to deal with that. It
3:23
just made me think, Rob, wow, he's walking
3:25
away from an exciting,
3:27
young, dynamic Liverpool
3:30
2.0 that's getting better, it seems, every single week.
3:32
So the announcement was such a shock given what
3:36
he's built and what he's experienced in. This
3:39
was a great example of a Liverpool team that they
3:41
were improving anyway. Whether
3:44
the news, the announcement kicked them on even
3:46
further, of course, it's a brilliant atmosphere which
3:48
often is, but even more so for
3:50
this game. I just thought rather that everything
3:53
that he'd done last year with Rejig
3:55
in the front three, of course right now, he's
3:57
without Mo Salah, Jürgen Klopp, he's a great player.
3:59
Giorgotto, as we've talked many times on this podcast,
4:02
Rob, is a diamond of a little player. And
4:04
of course last summer, the central midfield area
4:07
has been totally rebuilt, which is looking better
4:09
and better every single week. You add that
4:11
to a back four now that
4:13
really takes pride in clean sheets
4:15
and has the advantage of
4:18
a very hard work in midfield and a high
4:20
pressing front line, and you're getting back to what
4:22
Klopp's famous for with these teams that are so
4:24
hard to play against. We'll get into him, but
4:26
the performance of young Conor Bradley, 20 years of age
4:29
at right back, obviously
4:31
is a standout, very different to Trent Odonrano,
4:33
the way that he plays. But
4:36
everything, Rob, came
4:38
together for a performance that
4:40
just wiped the floor with Chelsea, who had
4:42
no answer to the energy and the quality
4:44
of Liverpool. Yeah,
4:48
it's really interesting that you've raised a
4:50
couple of points that kind of have
4:53
been thought since the Klopp thing. I
4:56
look at the game in itself, Robinson and
4:58
Taraty, if that's a rehearsal of the Carabao
5:01
Cup coming up, then Chelsea and Meso are
5:03
not turning up unless they're going to compete.
5:07
I kind of wrote it was one of
5:09
those days where it was an out day
5:11
for Liverpool, outclassed them, outthought them,
5:13
outplayed them, outmaneuvered them. It was
5:16
just like one team that's understanding
5:18
very comfortable who they are, understand
5:20
what they're doing. It's interesting,
5:22
Rob, because there's a bit of a contrast in
5:24
saying that, you
5:26
could say that Jürgen Klopp's
5:29
developed this 2.0 version in the
5:31
time that Pep's posture has taken over Chelsea
5:34
and he's already further down the road. Now
5:36
I know there's a lot of good pieces
5:38
in place that he's had, but he's basically
5:40
had to build a whole midfield. He's basically
5:43
redesigned the role for Trent
5:46
Alexander-Arnold, I know current
5:48
family has come in and done so
5:50
well, but redefined the role of Trent
5:53
in the team. So
5:55
he's had to do his work, But
5:58
it brings me to the point where... The
6:00
kind of thing team and again up.
6:02
This is just my feel of looking
6:04
and situation. the club, situation. I.
6:06
Think when you play that. Incidents
6:09
when with that much kind
6:11
of energy. I
6:13
don't think it's just the team that the the
6:16
I think the managers rob. And in some.
6:19
Sense. I think. It.
6:21
Takes it out of in I think physically
6:23
when he's on the mentally and I just
6:25
wondered if he's healthy. stuff is physical. The
6:27
things that may have come to me he
6:29
said you know I have to be cat
6:31
he has to be carefully. We still have
6:33
relatively young months ago, low life to live
6:36
and family and I'm sure the things to
6:38
do. and I just think one. It.
6:40
Kind of feels to me like he is.
6:43
he does so much him revving this t
6:45
mountain get in everybody I am the fans
6:47
in this to star in the players and
6:49
and i just wonder as he to it's
6:51
taken a toll on him rob them that
6:54
it's at that he possibly looked in said.
6:56
While. I need to just maybe
6:58
take a break from this. And and why
7:01
did you know the announcement Health? So when
7:03
does a Manx announcement maybe in the best
7:05
interests of the Aden Clubs house? Which has
7:07
to be be most important thing? Yeah, I
7:10
think you're absolutely right. Gop see right? And
7:12
he said it himself from didn't he said
7:14
that. My. Management style is based
7:16
on energy. Ah, and drive and
7:18
and and and we send. when I kept one
7:20
I don't have anymore. I'm not the right
7:22
person for the job so I think Europe see
7:25
right? I'm a year think looking at that like
7:27
wow how. Does. Car inspire you. The
7:29
scalia excite you. but I think I think.
7:32
I think you're right, that's exactly what parts ones
7:34
chelsea to be any exactly where he wants them
7:36
to be us. what do you son and John
7:38
and create his own respects? yeah some attacks but
7:41
and and this is you know the finished article
7:43
on I guess for club Rob are getting a
7:45
rabbit Didn't keep it together in Cuba and as
7:47
you going now between a lot you have to
7:49
now into the season help integrate things. Yeah be
7:52
seen as an end point now your an end
7:54
which I I suppose keeps him going. I think
7:56
I think what was obvious is that. This.
7:58
Is kind of unusual. Rob. isn't it, that a
8:01
manager of a huge club that
8:03
comes to an end, whichever way, you
8:06
don't often get a team like this.
8:09
We've seen the Arsenal with Arsene Wenger,
8:11
gone over the hill, struggling, hanging on,
8:13
hanging on, go. Of course, for
8:15
Alex Ferguson, they did win a title, but it was older
8:18
players. It was a sense that the team was going
8:21
downhill a little bit. This is different. And
8:23
this is where we always talk
8:25
about the man after the man, because the
8:27
man after young club normally would be a
8:29
guy that's going to fail, because it's really
8:31
hard to replace an icon at a club.
8:33
I just think this could be different, because
8:35
the team is so good. You get the
8:37
right guy, and I'm sure we'll chat
8:40
in the next few weeks about that. Jaby Alonso is
8:42
the big favour at the moment, that
8:44
the players respond to, respect, there's patience,
8:46
there's understanding, there's love from the supporters
8:48
of Liverpool, of course, with Jaby Alonso
8:50
for what he's done for the football
8:52
club. There's
8:54
no reason why this team can't be as
8:56
good and as strong, possibly. They lose the
8:59
club influence, but I'm saying the talent is
9:01
there for a coach like
9:03
Jaby Alonso to come into. Now, my
9:05
understanding is, and we don't see a ton of football
9:08
in other countries, because we're so transfixed with the Premier
9:10
League, but his football is very different. It's
9:12
much more about possession, I think it's three at the
9:14
back. They play through the
9:16
lines very carefully, so that's different
9:18
to the heavy metal stuff. So anyway, we shouldn't
9:20
speculate too much about who's going to be the
9:22
next manager. But this was
9:24
really, wow. I thought
9:27
it was a top-class Liverpool performance,
9:29
strong, strong, strong, strong, so typical
9:31
of Klopp, that it's not about
9:33
the silky football, it's about
9:35
the pressing, the wins of the
9:37
ball that then feeds it to the front
9:39
players, who finish, attack and pass, link up
9:41
in the split second and score
9:44
or create. And kind
9:46
of, Bradley, the right football bat at a game, I mean,
9:49
two assists and a goal himself. It
9:51
was a great night and
9:53
totally out-powered, like you
9:55
said, Chelsea, Robin, and if you're ready to switch
9:58
to Chelsea now. The
10:00
problems that the manager might have. I
10:02
said after job and yeah that that. We.
10:04
Know that this him talent in the squad. But.
10:07
Talent alone. it is just.
10:10
Is Not Enough and and I and I said after
10:12
the show after the game. In.
10:15
A primitive champions in my experience, I'm sure
10:17
yours as well. There's been no luxury teams
10:19
low luck she plays. They've all had to
10:21
work really hard on both sides of the
10:23
ball and his group. As quick as this
10:25
Chelsea squad can understand that the better that
10:27
it's not just about playing silky football is
10:29
about roll your sleeves up and fighting and
10:31
pressing. I'm running but Construction One isn't being
10:33
first of all and would enjoy was and
10:35
everything else that you have to do the
10:37
live or did. That's what he's got to
10:39
instill in this team. some mentality. some steel
10:41
and some work. Some. It's just a
10:43
literal hard water from his team because
10:46
that was nowhere near what the Chelsea
10:48
fans would expect. And.
10:51
You're out because in a technical I'm
10:54
gonna build ability and pro me some
10:56
potential. Know that you know nice buzz
10:58
words we pull around Chelsea to me
11:00
rob that the soft there was a
11:02
soft team and I think they lacked
11:05
a bit as spirit in personality. Yeah
11:07
and I'm not say not like. Dot.
11:09
Com com but you can have that twenty one
11:12
years of age you can have spirit. Okay sounds
11:14
a twenty one twenty two years of age of
11:16
it's not that that doesn't become an aging around
11:18
twenty six. now on I'll I'll take it a
11:21
bit more seats I've done under my the makes
11:23
it as the much an issue and it's really
11:25
interesting. I think the home form lot think it's
11:27
unbeaten in ten home but one when in nothing
11:30
to seven or eight now lights I'm on the
11:32
last wave him as lot luton laughing it was
11:34
booting up and then loot and came back that
11:36
they go on the road. Robbie don't know what
11:39
you gonna get. In the look at t
11:41
my Liverpool who are like you know
11:43
it just Boston Boston around lot there
11:45
were kids playing Liverpool fans in Liverpool
11:47
as a dodged a bullet for map
11:50
One of you miss young guy say
11:52
doubt who doesn't look. anywhere
11:54
near the player we saw it
11:56
brightens may bring in a midfield
11:58
a threat to him Chelsea.
12:00
28 shots I believe, Matt, the
12:02
stats said, Rob, 28 shots Liverpool
12:04
had against the Chelsea team. And
12:07
I know Chelsea had arguments about
12:09
penalties, whether one Gallagher
12:11
or the Incunco one, maybe for me
12:13
the Incunco one looked more likely than
12:15
the other one. They
12:18
shouldn't miss
12:20
the point here. Liverpool could have
12:22
had six or seven. Noone has himself
12:24
hit the woodwork four times, once
12:27
from a penalty. So, you know, could have been
12:29
a lot larger, could have been a lot harsher.
12:36
He's got to start to find the balance
12:38
of, this isn't just about the football
12:40
for Chelsea. I worry less
12:42
about the football and worry more
12:44
about the personalities at this football
12:46
club. I've got to be honest. And
12:49
the percentage of the manager, Rob, Mr. Pochettino,
12:51
now everybody, including us, thought it
12:53
was a really good fit right now with his
12:55
experience. It
12:58
doesn't for me yet, but does the pressure, and
13:00
I've heard it and I've read it and I've
13:02
seen it, like, does the pressure start to mount
13:04
on Pochettino with a performance like this? Should
13:08
this squad be higher in the table than they are right now?
13:10
They're bang halfway on their 10th place right now with 31 points.
13:15
When do we start pushing the manager?
13:17
And when I feel the need and you feel the
13:20
need, we'll do it, Rob. Is
13:22
it getting close to that point where you're starting to scratch your
13:24
head a little bit and pointing at the manager? Come on, you
13:27
should be able to get more out of this squad than this.
13:31
I think I'll go back to the time we saw
13:33
when all the players were coming in and we were
13:35
talking about, you know, the squad and how long it's
13:37
going to take him. And I saw it did that,
13:40
Rob. I did the two years. I
13:44
think we're talking about 12 months from
13:46
now to making some decisions.
13:48
I think the summer is going to be interesting
13:51
on who comes, who stays, financial fair
13:53
play, whether some of the bodies go
13:55
out. I think the start of
13:57
next season is going to be key, the first. Six
14:00
weeks, two months in next season is going to be
14:02
key. And then where they sit
14:05
around the turn of the year next year,
14:07
if they're in this position this time next
14:09
year, Rob, I
14:11
think he better start to worry. I think he
14:13
better start packing the boxes up in his office.
14:15
Because I don't think that they'll put up with
14:17
that for that much time. I think the amount
14:20
of money that's been spent, the amount of quality
14:22
that's in the football club, you say they
14:24
need more. Again, I'll go back to my
14:26
point. I less worry about
14:28
the football, because I've seen moments of that. I
14:30
think a striker, I think a couple of things
14:32
might be balancing out. But just the
14:35
away from home at a top six
14:38
team, you know, when it
14:40
matters, you know, wherever they
14:42
go on the road, I'm not just
14:44
sure they've got that steeliness about them,
14:46
Rob. Successful teams after a while. Liverpool
14:48
ain't just a great football team. Man City aren't
14:51
just great football teams. They've got steel, they've got
14:53
drive, they've got hunger, they want to win the
14:55
ball back, they've got killer in them. They get
14:57
goals, they defend for their life. That
15:00
takes time. That's who you
15:02
are. That's inside you. And that's
15:05
the bit I'm concerned of how
15:07
Pochettino's going to get that message
15:09
into these players. And
15:11
maybe, guess what? Maybe with a group of
15:13
young players who earn a lot of money
15:15
and that, maybe some of that's not as
15:17
natural as it was maybe back in our
15:19
day. Maybe when you're on £100, £150,000 a
15:21
week and
15:24
you're playing every week and it doesn't really matter, then
15:26
you don't take it quite as seriously. I think some
15:28
of it is on the manager, Rob. And I'll go
15:30
back, and I do want to keep repeating myself. I
15:33
still, when you talk about the two-year thing, I
15:35
still... I mean, if they don't assign
15:37
many players in the summer, I mean, the window's just
15:39
finished, doesn't it? I think it's just closing or it's
15:42
about to close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just closing, yeah. I
15:44
mean, they don't do anything in the summer. I don't
15:46
see how it does get much better. I
15:48
just don't. Well, it's got to sort the
15:50
striker situation. The striker situation's got to be
15:52
sorted. I mean, the number nine could make
15:54
a difference. Yeah, they're hard to come by.
15:57
But yeah, I think you need to strike
15:59
in a week. because there has
16:01
been signs that through midfield, you
16:03
know, with Enzo Fernandez and
16:05
Tysado and Gallagher and maybe Lavi when he comes
16:07
in there, you know, you've got Cole Palmer, can
16:09
play as a 10, can play as a wide
16:11
player, StuNan can give you bits and pieces, they
16:13
need a striker and another winger. I worry about
16:15
Buddy Schiele, that he's not the right level. I
16:18
don't think he's a top six Premier League player.
16:20
He's Azia, I don't know whether he's a top six
16:22
Premier League player. Ben Chilwell had a nightmare of a
16:24
game. Ben Chilwell had a nightmare of a game, got
16:26
dragged off, I think it was a half time. Jugga
16:29
Silva can't go on forever. He's like 45, isn't he? I
16:31
mean, he's an absolute world class,
16:33
legendary player, couldn't love
16:35
him anymore, but he can't go on forever. There's
16:38
a lot of recruitment before we start to
16:40
get to the personality rubber and everything else,
16:42
which is absolutely right. Just on the side
16:44
note as well, a lot of that does
16:47
come from manager. If you
16:49
had a wishy-washy manager in charge of McAllister
16:51
and Jones and Dominic Sowersly and
16:53
Lewis Diaz, maybe they wouldn't do it. They
16:56
look a little bit fancy. He's the manager that
16:59
drives all that kind of stuff. Again,
17:01
we're not pointing the finger at what you know just
17:03
yet, because I believe the recruitment has been pretty
17:05
awful. I certainly aren't, yeah. Yeah, so it's
17:07
something to watch, right? And of course, we'll
17:10
talk about Juggan Klopp and those performances of
17:12
some of those players. It
17:14
was a... It actually reminds me, I've
17:16
got to do my underappreciated performer. And
17:19
again, I... I just want to
17:21
finish off after you go to... Sorry mate, yeah, let me just get
17:23
that before I forget about it. Connor
17:26
Bradley is my underappreciated performer and one
17:28
to watch, obviously. You know, it's... That
17:31
sort of game, like, for those
17:33
who are watching listening this, you've got to
17:35
watch him, because he's a special player. I
17:37
just did a little tactics breakdown, a little
17:39
breakdown of his main moments in
17:41
that game. MSE Sports YouTube
17:44
channel is a place to watch that. And
17:46
it just shows how he's a good
17:48
defender, but he's so willing
17:50
and able and ready to bomb
17:53
forward. And he's quick. He's really,
17:55
really quick. And the final ball in,
17:57
this goal that he scored, you know,
17:59
underappreciated. He's going to get appreciated pretty quickly, but he's one to watch. And
18:05
I think a lot of this is for
18:08
people to come next time they see Liverpool, if you're not
18:10
a Liverpool fan, he needs a right
18:12
back. Now Trent Alexander-Arnold is fit. Andy
18:14
Robertson is fit. They're both fit, but
18:17
fair play to Klopp. He's going to keep the full
18:19
backs right now because they're playing great. And I don't
18:21
know whether they will start the next game. And
18:24
the option that he has now with Conor
18:26
Bradley is a bonafide right back. He's a
18:28
proper right back, which changes everything by the
18:30
way. Because when Trent plays, he comes into
18:33
midfield, that pulls back. Robertson is a little
18:35
bit more cautious to go forward
18:37
because Trent's in a midfield position. You
18:39
know, if Conor Bradley plays, he's
18:42
like another Robertson. He's like another Robertson.
18:45
Good on the ball, good going forward assist, we'll make things
18:47
happen. And then you might see
18:49
more Trent in midfield. So yeah, I'll
18:51
end it there, main on this game, and
18:53
my underappreciated Conor Bradley, some performance. Well,
18:57
I've got my little piece of paper here in
18:59
my underappreciated. It was Conor Bradley, and he's got
19:01
a big red line through. I'm sorry. 20
19:04
years of age, five of his four goals. Was
19:07
it league one with Bolton last season,
19:09
Rob? 51 appearances,
19:12
was player of the year, went in, learned
19:14
his trade, and maybe got a bit of
19:16
that hunger and that desire that maybe we've
19:18
seen Chelsea miss. And sometimes those things can
19:20
be helpful. Absolutely the
19:23
same thing. I think he gives Liverpool another
19:25
option. These times you could play Trent
19:27
in midfield and play him as about maybe getting some of
19:29
the bigger boys when you want to be a little bit
19:32
more secure. He's responsible. His
19:34
teammates respect him, Rob. They give him the
19:36
ball. They trust him
19:38
in possession. Proper player.
19:41
And the reason I sort of went from,
19:44
he would have been my underappreciate, Rob, and
19:46
I just want to make a note to
19:48
academies, by the way. Most academies that go
19:50
to work, that get these kids at 10,
19:53
11, 12 months, say we've talked
19:55
about, Liverpool have got a
19:58
group coming through. billions
20:00
that Chelsea spend, you know that academy is not
20:02
a bad place to go, you know they've had
20:04
Rhys James come through, they've had some good players
20:06
coming through, you know Conor
20:09
Gallagher's another, Broyas obviously looks like he's
20:11
going out on lunch at Fulham but
20:13
you know we shouldn't forget academies and
20:15
giving kids a chance and Conor Bradley
20:17
is a great example of a young
20:19
player who might not be appreciated all
20:21
the time because you know big names
20:23
and Trent Alexander-Arnold and all this but
20:26
he's a role for him and I'm really
20:28
pleased that Jurgen Klopp thinks that as well. Just
20:31
before we move on Liverpool, a couple of
20:33
things I just wanted to get to because I was
20:35
just doing my little notes here and things, do
20:37
you know as I look at Liverpool and where we
20:39
are and just taking like a snapshot
20:42
of the league to this
20:44
point is they've
20:46
got champions numbers by the way, they've
20:48
got champions numbers my friend, they've lost one
20:50
game, they've lost one game I'd spurs when
20:53
Dias scored a goal that wasn't given, they
20:55
had two men playing off by the way,
20:57
you were down to nine men. I
20:59
mean it's incredible what's happening so
21:02
following on from that and my other point
21:05
was Macalester
21:07
by the way, Alexis Macalester who was going to
21:10
be in, I'm going to do a little breakdown
21:12
on him this week because there's a player who's
21:14
gone in who's ended up in the six and
21:16
what he's doing it's incredible and part of that
21:18
revamp for midfield that we all didn't quite know
21:20
how that might look and
21:22
maybe not his best position, he's becoming
21:25
so important to the team but part
21:27
of that and moving on, he's
21:30
a quadruple at stake my friend,
21:32
he's a quadruple at stake. Now I think
21:34
it was 2022 they were in the same position
21:36
and he looked with a league cup and FA
21:38
Cup Liverpool, quadruple
21:42
at stake, clock leaving, Liverpool
21:44
properly revved up at the
21:46
moment, how
21:49
many of four is possible
21:51
or likely? I
21:53
think three, I think three
21:55
are possible and likely. You think they could do
21:57
three? I do, they're in the league cup final.
22:00
against Chelsea. Yeah, you
22:02
know, they look like they're going to be favourites into that game.
22:05
I think the FA Cup then will become a
22:07
big attraction as well later in the season as
22:09
the rounds go through. Obviously the Premier League, they're
22:11
right there. I just think the Europa League rod
22:13
might be the one that they, you know,
22:16
it comes back in February and we know
22:18
that the likes of Man City. Yeah. And
22:21
the last 16. Yeah, last 16. And that's going to take its toll a little bit.
22:25
Yeah. And they're in the Europa
22:27
League knockout stages. I think
22:29
they might make changes to rest the team
22:32
ready for the domestic side of things. They've
22:34
won Champions League under Jurgen Klopp. I don't
22:36
know whether they're going to, maybe I'm wrong,
22:38
you know, they're going to keep every player, the
22:40
best team going. I think they might make changes
22:42
for that competition, which might mean they at
22:45
some point bow out of that. Yeah.
22:47
But other than that, I mean, they've got, I mean,
22:49
they're banging there with all the, you know,
22:51
all the competitions, obviously, there's one
22:54
that they, that they might not be
22:56
quite as 100% motivated
22:58
with Europa League to enable their games
23:00
in the Champions, in the Premier League
23:02
in between those games to be absolutely
23:05
right at it, to win and to
23:07
throw the pressure on Arsenal and
23:09
probably Manchester City who's going to be close up there. So
23:11
I think you're right. It's going to, I think we're going
23:14
to get at a great finish. I mean, unless
23:16
Liverpool's form, Rob, they got everybody back now, by
23:18
the way, they're waiting for most of the come
23:20
back. Biggie squad now,
23:22
aren't they? You've got options in
23:24
every area, in everywhere, everywhere. So
23:27
how is their form going to
23:29
drop off to allow Man City
23:31
or Arsenal, probably Man City to really take control
23:33
of it? I just don't think it will. So
23:35
I think we've got a race. We've got a
23:38
race and the way that they're going, they're looking
23:40
with the fans and the whole Klopp thing. I
23:42
think they got a great chance of winning the Premier League.
23:44
You said it. We always look at the column of lost
23:46
games and they've lost one. Man
23:49
City have lost three, Arsenal have lost four. Historically,
23:51
if you lose five or six, that
23:54
hasn't happened many times that you go and win the title.
23:56
They've lost one. So the numbers are looking good and the
23:58
way they are with their fitness. They are,
24:00
you know, you're kind of, you're
24:02
not into the running just yet, Rob, but you, you
24:05
know, you're into the second half of the season.
24:07
Everybody's fit. It's not fair, yeah, it's not six
24:09
weeks. Six or eight weeks is massive importance. Yeah,
24:11
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24:13
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let's move it to Old
25:02
Hampton wonders. We're at home to Manchinati.
25:05
This is the reverse game from beginning
25:07
of the season, wasn't it? Remember we
25:09
were Old Trafford, saw Wolves
25:12
outplay United, conceded
25:14
goal, and then Unana was
25:16
to take it first time. We saw him got
25:18
away with one when a penalty wasn't given. He
25:22
went full day at Old Trafford, more
25:24
than you, had it all in it.
25:26
I saw obviously
25:29
the broadcast debut in Timon with
25:31
Unana and Mike, you Rob. I
25:34
short wrote, my first 45 minutes
25:36
I wrote, that's probably the best
25:38
I can remember seeing Manchinati, certainly
25:40
under 10-0. That
25:43
felt a little bit, and there was a shot
25:45
of Sir Alex sitting there, I think, up in
25:48
the stand. In my head I
25:50
was thinking, that's what United used to do
25:52
Rob. They used to go up, back to
25:54
you for 20-25 minutes, go 2-0, control the
25:57
game and game over. Now what used
25:59
to happen in New York, we're at home. back in the day
26:01
was then they control the match and you couldn't
26:03
get in it couldn't get a look. This
26:05
team don't have that and probably I
26:07
think like you said in the broadcast
26:09
the thing I wrote was that's a
26:11
great 45 minute performance I've yet to
26:13
see United this season have a 90
26:16
minute performance he's been known 90
26:18
minutes and today was another now
26:20
today's a it's almost a bittersweet
26:22
one isn't it because it's great to win it's
26:25
great to get the goals but
26:27
Tom and a man who you
26:29
know two young lads who come through the academy
26:31
great back on your academy point Rob back on
26:33
your academy points yeah academy people coming
26:35
through the academy three goal scorers come through
26:37
the academy yeah yeah
26:40
absolutely but lack
26:42
of control against maybe a different
26:44
opposition slightly better opposition that's got
26:46
to be a slight worry still
26:48
for a ten-hog he's got to
26:51
take a lot of praise and he deserves
26:53
some praise you know he made subs and
26:55
things happened and listen they've ended up winning
26:57
the games and he's got the three points
26:59
but more control of matches now more control
27:01
more management of the game when they're in
27:03
those positions is gonna is gonna be the
27:05
it's sort of the next step in the
27:08
development yeah I mean sometimes it gets the
27:10
point Rob where we're you
27:12
get you get like tired of
27:14
being critical to Manchester United so
27:16
after I'm like I'm thinking that
27:19
that was about a solid a performance and
27:21
everything like yeah from defense they didn't give
27:23
anything I think there's a very few shots
27:25
from from wolves excellent the build-up is really
27:28
good yeah Delo was sometimes really really wide
27:30
sometimes in midfield the front players are linking
27:32
really really well and then and
27:34
then then the second half I'm like just
27:36
whatever it looks like whether
27:39
you go and try to score a third goal and do
27:41
the same thing that's great yeah if
27:43
the game changes which it did and if man United
27:45
have to sit in a little bit and dig in
27:47
a little bit that's good as well because the control
27:49
you can control the session trying to score another
27:51
one or you control by all right you
27:54
have the ball but we're kind of in control and
27:56
they didn't do either and maybe
27:58
I know the manager talked to a
28:00
few of the players might be a little bit leggy, they've got to
28:02
find their rhythm again. Maybe that's the
28:04
reason why he brought off Lissandra Martinez,
28:06
who definitely improves him. I
28:09
listened to some comments today from, I think it
28:11
was, was it Jamie Carragher
28:13
talking about his size or height? His height is still not
28:16
going to be good enough for set pieces. He's still a
28:18
good defender for me, still a good defender. I thought he
28:20
looked really great. For Ram, for Ram was heading balls away.
28:22
Good attitude, yeah. Listen, the penalty,
28:24
listen, is a bit soft for me, the little
28:26
clip from Casimir Lourdes
28:33
on Pedro Nessa. The modern penalty, my friend.
28:35
The modern penalty. It goes down as the
28:37
modern penalty. I'd love to be able to
28:39
say that's... If there's any kind of contact,
28:41
yeah, I'm the same. Not enough contact to
28:43
take him down, but this contact in a
28:45
modern day, any contact means it's penalty kick.
28:48
I don't want to, whether Rob, and I'll switch this
28:50
question to you. I
28:52
mean, obviously, McTormally's sub works well. He comes on his
28:54
score to make it 3-1. By
28:57
bringing that player to leave
28:59
at the end, you've got Maguire and you've got Johnny
29:01
Evans. Johnny
29:03
Evans, yeah. I guess Lissandra Martes
29:05
is getting tired, Casimir Lourdes is getting tired,
29:07
I think Rashford came off. Was
29:11
that the right call in the subs? I
29:13
can see why. I think
29:15
it's easier to jump on this guy and, you know,
29:17
look who, you know, you've got
29:19
to remember, they're two hugely experienced players.
29:22
Like you say, Martino's coming back, you don't
29:24
want to overdo him, where he might pick
29:27
a knock-up in the next game, not be
29:29
available. So I've got to be honest, it
29:31
makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that when
29:33
you do that then, you don't readjust,
29:35
or the players on the pitch don't sort
29:37
of take that on and say, OK, maybe
29:39
we'll just have to defend it a little
29:41
bit deeper, because Evans and Maguire are not
29:43
as quick. I've
29:46
got that threat on the break with Neto
29:48
and the way they break forward from deep
29:50
positions. So I just would have expected a
29:52
little bit more on-pitch management, to be honest,
29:55
Rob. That's the kind of thing. But I
29:58
think he... He
30:00
deserves a little bit of break this guy.
30:02
He gets hammered when he loses, he gets
30:04
hammered often when he draws. You know, they've
30:07
won today, they've won 4-3, he's found a
30:09
way in the end. I love
30:11
the little kid, and I wrote this down, Robin,
30:13
and I was watching
30:16
Coby Maynow, and I'm
30:18
watching him, watching him, and he gets the goal,
30:20
and the way he runs off, he's very assured,
30:22
he looks a good, you know, critical specimen, like
30:24
he's going to be a good bill. No, he
30:26
reminds me of, as he was playing, Clarence
30:29
C. Dorff. It's about the thing,
30:31
if you could do a bit, and he could
30:33
pass, and he's got good energy, and just the
30:35
way how he punched that ball when it came
30:37
in, he didn't bend it, he kind
30:40
of punched it with a little bit of extra
30:42
power through his thigh, which I thought, oh, that's
30:44
a bit special. That's not just like bending it
30:46
and giving the keeper a chance. He's flipping stuff
30:48
in there, isn't he? And he's got these little
30:51
bits, yeah, he's got these little bits to his
30:53
game, and
30:55
very quietly, he's becoming a
30:57
really important part of this
30:59
group, Rob. So, yeah,
31:02
I think, I just want to go to
31:04
one thing, just
31:06
before we move on on this one,
31:08
is Marcus Rasford and that whole situation,
31:10
Rob. You know,
31:13
he's been away, he's out on the
31:15
night, he shouldn't be, he doesn't turn
31:17
up for training. It's another incident
31:20
that Tenhall could well do without, in all
31:22
honesty, of what's going on at the Football
31:24
Club, and everybody's looking with new ownership now,
31:26
how's he going to handle that? We've seen
31:28
how he handles Sancho. Your
31:31
thoughts on Rasford and
31:33
that, Rob? I mean, he's got
31:35
his goal, too, I thought he looked lively,
31:37
I thought both wingers looked a threat today,
31:39
they created chances for Hoyland for the first
31:41
time, it started to look more like what
31:43
I'd expect from that group. But the
31:46
Rasford thing, Rob, where do you
31:48
stand with it and how Tenhall dealt with it?
31:53
Well, it's
31:55
disappointing for the Man United fans to read
31:57
this story, and it was a mistake.
32:00
from him to do what he did. He got sucked in
32:02
to stay up later and later and later and
32:04
it affected his ability to go in train. He called
32:06
in, we don't know how ill he was, but obviously
32:08
it was not to be dealt with by the manager.
32:10
I think he got fined for it. Left
32:13
out of the game at the weekend in the FA
32:15
Cup and then back into the
32:17
side. I said it before the broadcast
32:20
early on today, Robin. I just
32:23
think with Marcus Rashri, he's 26 now and
32:25
this time last year he was late and
32:27
missed that he was dropped on the bench.
32:30
So he's not
32:33
a great professional. Okay now
32:36
this is different to his off-the-field stuff that
32:38
he's been amazing, got recognized by the Royal
32:40
Family, he's got an MBE Marcus Rashrid for
32:42
helping out people that haven't got
32:44
much you know helped him with the
32:46
food and everything else. Amazing. It's
32:50
been a couple times now, he's off the field
32:52
disciplines, let him down and I'll go back to
32:54
his on-field stuff Rob. He's
32:58
an inconsistent player and I
33:01
you know he's
33:03
a talented player and we see it, we
33:05
saw it today. It's like I'm not surprised
33:07
what he bends that ball in beautifully. We're
33:09
not surprised when he does a little step
33:11
overs and comes inside the scores and we're
33:13
also not surprised when he's very very quiet.
33:15
He has no impact in the game. I
33:17
just think that Man United have become reliant
33:19
on a guy that
33:22
he's not you
33:24
know he's not that good, he's
33:27
not that good. Good players, top Premier League
33:29
players and we've seen them, we've watched them,
33:32
we've commented on them, we've played against them,
33:34
we played against the Man United team of
33:36
Sir Alex Ferguson in its pomp and they
33:38
had talented players like Ryan Giggs and David
33:40
Beckham and Skoles and all those attacking players
33:43
that did it every week, did
33:45
it every week, worked back for the side,
33:47
did gigs, he did his thing every single
33:49
game. His expectations were high and he could
33:51
do it. I just don't think Rashford's that
33:53
sort of player, he's a really good player
33:56
and you know whether it's an important player
33:58
right now or the players. that they've got
34:00
but in a championship winning Manchester United I
34:04
think they won't want to rely on
34:06
him. There'll be other players that come into the
34:09
club that will do it week in week out.
34:11
I always think of Ed Nazzard another player that
34:13
was so good for Chelsea every single week
34:15
and it sounds harsh Rob but that's how I
34:17
feel. I feel they shouldn't have to rely on
34:19
him because he isn't good
34:22
enough is maybe the wrong word
34:24
like but he's not consistent enough at
34:26
that level to be a champion player and at
34:28
26 I don't know whether he's going to change.
34:31
No a different manager can make him more
34:33
consistent. I think he said last year Rob
34:35
that last year's season was on the back
34:37
of him being in a much better place
34:39
mentally and it was a mental health thing.
34:41
Of course you feel for him that if he
34:44
can't be consistent because
34:47
of things that is in his
34:49
head you feel for him but
34:52
is that too harsh Rob? I'm just trying
34:54
to say he isn't that
34:57
top top level that the club can rely on
34:59
every single week but he just hasn't shown us
35:01
that. It's always been a great season, poor, kind
35:03
of good not great and a champion's
35:05
got to have more reliability than that. I agree
35:10
with the majority of what you say when
35:13
we talk about great player I think he had I'm
35:16
saying had actually as a past entry he's
35:18
probably telling me everything that he had the
35:20
capacity he could have been up there Rob
35:23
on ability and goal scoring and a little
35:25
bit more dedication to
35:27
his art he could have been the great
35:29
he's got the skills I mean he's got
35:31
stuff mate that he can naturally do that
35:34
I couldn't do a still out there training
35:36
today but he's not there
35:38
and the thing I'm
35:40
where I'd give him a little bit of spaces is
35:42
I think like you say I'm not sure how
35:45
mentally strong he is he doesn't look
35:47
that kind of guy and he's talked
35:49
about some issues there I
35:52
don't think he is ever gonna
35:54
be a I mean
35:56
he's 26 but he's kind of a young
35:58
26 you know twenty six can
36:00
be can go either way and
36:03
i just think however
36:06
we think you talk to
36:08
those great united players who all worked
36:10
incredibly odd one because it was in
36:12
them and two because the guy who
36:14
was running the ship wouldn't have allowed
36:16
anything else i just
36:18
think marcus raspid at this point in
36:21
his career could still have seven
36:23
or eight more great years and we look back and
36:26
go and call what a great player marcus raspid was
36:28
you know he's young enough rob still
36:31
i didn't know in the family close
36:33
twenty five you know you've got another
36:38
realm of games to change some people's opinions
36:40
to to give a different thing on his
36:42
career not just that he's done some brilliant
36:44
work off the field but he can be
36:46
a brilliant player on the field and again
36:50
you you talked about yergan clop and
36:52
some of those chelsea players with clop
36:54
i wonder if raspid
36:58
was with yergan clop whether we see a
37:00
difference whether it would be a
37:02
different way and
37:04
so mate you know those are just things
37:07
that i just was thinking about raspid and
37:09
now i just feel like now you've just got to
37:11
get your head down you've got to put performances in
37:14
it's not about what
37:17
you say so almost not about what you're
37:19
doing he's just some great work and you know
37:21
i hope he continues to do that because it's
37:23
important to a lot of people sitting in the
37:25
Manchester area but his football now has got to
37:27
be the most important thing that he concentrates on
37:29
and starts to live in on a regular basis
37:31
tonight just let me finish off with one more
37:33
point rob as you're talking there you know those
37:36
great times of man united as well when i
37:38
talk about the gigs and the beckhams and everything
37:40
else they always had great strikers as well banging
37:42
in your fifteen twenty goals about nydd roi and
37:44
your goal whoever it was and
37:47
again it goes back to expectations of this guy and
37:50
marcus rashford that can score let's
37:53
say an average is eight
37:55
nine ten if
37:58
there's a striker up there that's banging in the majority of the guy goals,
38:00
that becomes a bonus, maybe
38:02
more. And maybe I'm judging him
38:04
that I want him to be the 20 goal guy
38:07
or the 15, 20 goals every single season. If
38:09
there's a guy that's in the team doing it, then
38:11
maybe Rashford thing, maybe he can be
38:15
part of a champion, maybe he can be part of a
38:17
Premier League champion team given that he's going to chip in
38:19
with 5 to 10, maybe more,
38:21
your striker's going to score and a few others.
38:25
So maybe it is the expectation and the
38:27
reliance on him given that in other areas
38:29
they're not getting a lot of goals. So
38:31
listen, I'm absolutely fine
38:34
to be proved wrong over a period of time
38:37
and maybe you're right and maybe when this club
38:39
now which will start to move forward, I think
38:41
pretty quickly with the new backbone of the club,
38:43
the football department being sorted or starting to get
38:45
sorted, then maybe he can
38:47
become that guy. It's just, I
38:49
do get frustrated when I see brilliance,
38:51
I see some quiet and then the
38:53
off-field stuff doesn't happen as well. I
38:56
don't have a, I hope I didn't come across being too harsh. I've
39:00
got to say how I feel and the
39:03
fans expect him to be the main
39:05
man and be consistent, he
39:08
just hasn't been able to do that. But
39:11
yeah, let's move it on mate because we spent a lot of time
39:13
on that. But bottom
39:15
line, it was better, it was better for Man
39:17
United and when those players back now
39:19
get a bit more match rhythm, maybe they
39:22
can be a little bit more 90 minutes performance more
39:24
than just 45. Absolutely.
39:28
Well, you know, I did West Ham, home
39:30
to West Ham at the weekend, so David
39:32
Moyes, but David Moyes-Dorby returns at the weekend
39:34
at Old Trafford. Let's do it
39:37
to the other team, the blue half
39:39
of Manchester, Manchester City at home to
39:41
Burnley. So I saw
39:43
the last six Premier League games
39:45
at home to Burnley for Manchester
39:47
City, they scored 23 goals
39:49
and conceded one. This
39:52
was another along that route, I'm afraid,
39:54
where as much
39:56
as Vincent Kuntley got a brilliant reception
39:58
as he would expect. well
40:00
loved by the manager and all the fans
40:03
there. His team are a bit short, mate,
40:05
and they're short against the City team that
40:07
are just starting to get into
40:09
gear, I think. Julian Alverez with
40:12
a couple of goals, important for him. It
40:15
was the day when Haaland came back in, they
40:17
got a few minutes under him, he's going to
40:19
obviously start to come. Kevin De Bruyne, a much
40:21
more involved, a lovely assist for the three-kick
40:23
for Alverez, I think was his
40:26
second goal. KDB, I think
40:28
it's 104 now, Premier League assist.
40:30
Just get the sense that a lot of
40:32
the pieces are coming together for Pep and
40:34
this team at the right time, and the
40:37
teams like Burnley, they'll do what they need to
40:39
do to distinguish them to
40:41
move on to those big games
40:43
when it matters. The one
40:45
thing this club knows how to do is
40:47
finish off seasons. You've said it
40:50
all there, Rob, and again, this is that window where the similar
40:52
game is going on at the same time on Tuesday, there's five
40:54
games on the day. You see Alain Haaland
40:56
being back, you see Kevin De Bruyne, my note on
40:58
the team sheet when I saw it was pretty
41:01
much a 40-fit squad now, a man
41:03
city you've got, and players that will
41:05
like De Bruyne, like Alain Haaland, will
41:07
start to feel sharp to
41:10
get back into the rhythm of things, and they're in
41:12
a really good spot. Chambers, he goes around the corner
41:14
again, the knockout stages, which of course I think Pep
41:16
knows is the most taxing time
41:18
of the season, and he just gets his
41:20
players warmed up nicely for
41:22
that really difficult run-in. I
41:25
think we all expected them to beat Burnley, great for
41:27
Vincent Co and the respect of him and Pep afterwards
41:29
was there to see, but there was no
41:32
other result really was there. If it's going to be an
41:34
open game of football, Burnley vs Man City, like
41:36
the Etihad, then there's only going to be one winner. Roger's
41:39
goal, Rob, was again, a lovely, sweeping
41:42
side foot. Yeah, I love the
41:44
government. Yeah, they're looking really, really great. Sorry, I can't give
41:46
you any more on that, but again, I didn't see all
41:48
of it with all the other games going on at the
41:50
same time. Too much, yeah. So,
41:53
I'll tell you just his little mention,
41:55
Rob, and he hasn't sort
41:57
of maybe hit headlines, but I think it
41:59
could be an important... Nunez played next to
42:01
Roger in midfield. Yeah, I like him. I
42:03
like him. Interesting, mate. Yeah, clever.
42:06
He's a bit more kind of
42:08
athletic, runs into good spots and
42:10
brings another dimension to the team
42:12
that I think could be important.
42:14
Yeah. And again, you say,
42:16
as Pep talks about this time of year, he's
42:18
let Calvin Phillips go now so he's
42:22
honed in on the players he wants and the group
42:24
he wants and Nunez might have a little role to
42:26
play in certain games.
42:28
Have a little buy, another one who
42:31
just plug and play, Rob, ready to
42:33
go, understands the system, Pep's talked highly
42:35
of him and I thought particularly you caught my eye
42:37
a little bit and
42:39
it was only against Burnley. But yeah, another
42:41
important player, which is what City seem to
42:43
have at this time of the
42:46
year, players, important players coming back and
42:48
helping them take it onto the next step. Rob,
42:51
just to follow up real quick on this one with the
42:53
City, with the squad. Yeah. Let me just quickly
42:55
go through the bench on the day. Stefano Tager
42:57
has played many, many games. Karl Walker,
42:59
Ruben Diaz, and
43:23
he's in fact ready to go for this final
43:25
run into the season with everything going on. Really
43:28
good. Yeah. Bram,
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take us to the city ground, because
44:24
this has played last two visits, I believe,
44:26
also in the city ground, have lost both
44:28
times. So not a great place for Michael
44:30
Artechne's team to go. And this game, I
44:32
thought Arsenal had to dig in a little
44:34
bit to get this done, Robby. It wasn't
44:36
one of those... It's a farce team that
44:39
are well set up under Nuno now. Played
44:41
quite deep, sitting in the first
44:43
half of a lower block, which we know Arsenal have
44:45
had a little bit of trouble breaking down. Eventually
44:48
got the goals in the
44:50
second half. Jesus scoring one,
44:52
assisting one for Bakayo Saka.
44:55
I only pulled one back for the forest
44:57
and made it a little bit rare to
45:00
come up with a half-decent save later on.
45:02
They managed to make sure they got all
45:04
these points. But important win, Rob. I thought
45:06
important goal-scoring, Jesus. And just, I've got a
45:08
little kind of thought on Jesus and where
45:10
I am on him. But
45:13
most important, the three points away
45:15
from home for Arsenal, you know, when they've had
45:17
to dig a result out. Yeah, it's interesting, Emile
45:19
Smith's role played in the midfield role that
45:22
kind of habits us off. That
45:24
little left side, a danker Meissner in Odegard in there.
45:26
And the Jays just think it's interesting, Rob. And I'll
45:28
let you go first on that. All
45:30
I would say is there was, I read an
45:32
article about him or a quote that he made recently
45:34
saying that he's actively trying to
45:37
change his mindset. And that his mindset...
45:39
Yeah, of his head, yeah. Yeah, and his career
45:41
has been about almost... Yeah, I read the same
45:43
thing. Yeah, the assisting is more important to him
45:45
than scoring. And I think he's got through to
45:47
him now, probably through the manager, that
45:49
you've got to change, like, we need you to be a
45:51
scorer. We don't need you to look good and link things
45:53
together, which he's pretty good at. He's got nice feet and
45:56
there's some moments where he's quick and makes
45:58
clever passes for people to put them in. But
46:00
need him to be a scorer So I think that his
46:02
goal is so important because that position
46:04
is where everybody said to ask for a
46:06
little short given the numbers the
46:09
return of Jesus If it is
46:11
as easy as that if it is as
46:13
easy as changing his mindset and like I'm not
46:15
gonna get involved in a build-up Play I'm not
46:17
gonna run in the channel so much because he's
46:19
always outside the box way away and Henri used
46:21
to do Yeah, but Henri would come inside and
46:23
bend it mixed up beautifully. Yeah, we Henri Jesus
46:27
Is not at that level But it may be if
46:29
you hang around the box a little bit more Robin
46:31
and take more chances get more scrap the goals Tapping's
46:33
that'll be it make a big difference. Is that what
46:35
you were thinking off with Jesus? Yeah
46:38
more with him and and and that you know
46:42
He's appetite and he's will
46:44
to do well at times puts him in you
46:46
see him at full back position Sometimes you'd be
46:48
at last back. All right back tackling the winger
46:50
and all that and then you're thinking well If
46:52
we have a counter attack You're not
46:54
gonna be there for the to put the ball the
46:56
mark the net and so and it was part of
46:58
my thing I just feel like he's
47:00
just got a play to
47:02
his to his strengths a little bit and
47:04
and and I Like
47:07
him when he's free when it looks like he's
47:09
playing free and like the goalie scores Rob He's
47:11
a beautiful goal and you get down the side
47:13
and he just you know Spings it through turn
47:15
his legs in lovely celebration And I just saw
47:17
some time he gets in his own head and
47:19
he gets a bit caught up in any Starts
47:21
linking the play and he's like that goes off
47:24
a bit and then it affects his whole game
47:26
I like him when he's just Jesus go and
47:28
enjoy your football at the top end of the
47:30
pitch You know remember when he first
47:32
went off all those little dribbles and combinations and
47:34
things he was doing and we were saying Like
47:37
he's a better footballer than we think just feel
47:39
he's gone away from that little bit He's gone
47:41
a bit kind of robotic and I don't think
47:43
that's him at his best No,
47:46
I'm and suckers scoring again is
47:48
important for him Yeah, I
47:50
mean it's just an important win for Arsenal and I
47:52
know there's a zillion Arsenal fans in America So many
47:54
of my friends are Arsenal Fans
47:57
are such an important win Robin,
47:59
you know I was getting
48:01
to the point where Mick and Arteta are going to
48:03
have to shake this up a little bit. Think about
48:06
the system of play, is there a better team
48:08
in there somewhere? Can you do something differently? Can you
48:10
trust our players a false nine with Jaysus somewhere else?
48:13
The Kai Habits thing hasn't really worked out, which
48:15
was a big call. That was a big call
48:17
in the summer to spend that amount of money
48:19
on Kai Habits. And I've got
48:21
to say right now, that's not really making
48:24
the team too much better. It's got a few
48:26
goals, but that's not worked out. And
48:28
look at their bench, Rob, and it's difficult
48:30
to compare with Man City's, but Eddie and
48:33
Ketia, yeah, he gets a few goals off
48:35
the bench, he looks kind of sharp. Kipio's
48:37
okay, Suarez doesn't really have much. Trussard, yep,
48:39
like him a lot. Jugino can add a
48:41
little bit from midfield. Rees Nelson adds a
48:43
little trick. Kai Habits
48:45
is on the bench and Raoul Walters.
48:49
I just don't know whether the
48:51
squad depth, Rob, is what might hold
48:53
them back. In challenging for
48:55
the title, and that's something they might look to address
48:57
in the summer, is just to try
48:59
and, I don't know, get another couple of special
49:01
players so that some of the guys in the
49:04
team now might end up being on the bench
49:06
to come and help in. I just
49:08
think they need a couple of
49:10
special players to make the first 11 better, which then pushes
49:12
a couple of those guys onto the bench, which makes the
49:14
bench stronger, if you know what I mean. So, but anyway,
49:17
they won. They won. They're still right there. They're absolutely right
49:19
there. The main points is Man City. Yeah.
49:24
Huge game coming up, mate, on Sunday as
49:26
well. They house Liverpool, don't they? Oh, man.
49:28
Yeah. Arsenal, Liverpool, at
49:30
the end. I mean, you almost
49:32
feel like they can't
49:34
afford to lose that game and really need to
49:36
win it to have an impact, to
49:39
stay amongst it. So, huge game. And
49:41
that's when, you
49:43
will be testing that first 11
49:45
of Liverpool and the first 11
49:47
of Arsenal. Are they on par
49:49
or are they on par? Liverpool
49:51
just got that little bit more
49:53
strength and sort of belief in what they do.
49:55
So, yeah, big game coming up for Arsenal. But an important
49:58
three points away at the City Grand Prix. around,
50:00
keeps them up there and still keeps
50:02
them intact with the top of the
50:04
table. OK mate, let's move
50:06
to some other results, because obviously we've taken a
50:08
little time now. Spurs 3, Brentford
50:11
2, Brentford going 1-0 up,
50:13
and Spurs getting some goals back.
50:17
Postcard, we made a couple of changes half
50:19
time, again, as we
50:21
know, he's going to be going forward, Udoghi gets
50:23
a goal, what about Johnson who came on as
50:25
a sub? Mr. Hollis and Son have returned a
50:27
few goals mate, I think they've made a family
50:30
goal of the season before having Tony pull one
50:32
back to make it a little bit more interesting.
50:35
Good win for Spurs and Postcard
50:38
glue, who are still in
50:40
there, they're still fighting for
50:43
certainly top four spot, and they're fighting for
50:45
a bit more than that. You
50:48
look at their games, they're going to
50:50
concede, they're so open at times, Udoghi
50:52
had this weird game where he
50:55
made two howling mistakes, he gifted them goals, he
50:57
then does straight at the other end. The
51:00
funny thing on this game was
51:02
darts, at the darts celebration, Neil
51:04
Mopé scores for Brentford, and he
51:06
goes to the camera and he
51:08
mimics James Madison who's made this
51:10
darts celebration, throwing a dart at
51:12
dartboard, kind of famous. It's typical
51:15
Neil Mopé, doesn't need to do that, aggravates
51:17
everybody, James Madison pulls them on the way
51:19
back. James Madison grabs them a little bit,
51:21
we showed that on our highlight, you know,
51:23
it's just why do you have to do
51:26
that? And of course Spurs come back, and
51:28
if they throw the darts back at him,
51:30
it's wild, watching Spurs is wild, it's just
51:32
fun watching them, they score a lot, they
51:34
concede a lot, you never know what's going
51:36
to happen, but what a game, and you're
51:39
absolutely right, given the way that Villa, and
51:41
we'll get to Villa next real quick, didn't
51:44
play so well, Spurs are right there with a great
51:46
chance at the top four, I mean I said that
51:48
about Villa before the Villa game, where they totally were
51:51
poor against Newcastle United, but no,
51:53
Spurs are fun, and when Hyun-Wen Sung comes
51:55
back, Ruchas is scoring goals, Madison's fit again,
51:57
Van der Ven's fit again, they got tons
52:00
options he but soon is going to come back in the
52:02
mid field yeah they're they they're
52:04
sneaky and I and you know I
52:06
think as we as we sit here today and
52:08
of course we've got probably gonna change our mind
52:10
a million times I got I think Villa
52:13
gonna be the top four Rob sorry
52:15
Tottenham I think Tottenham have
52:17
what it takes on them to
52:19
find yeah to be that fourth
52:21
team eight points eight points above
52:23
United at the moment yeah United
52:25
I mean Villa can go again
52:27
possibly West Ham yeah West
52:29
Ham yeah same point is Villa aren't
52:31
they same game same point is Villa
52:33
so that might be the shootout for
52:35
the that spare place
52:37
okay last maybe to talk
52:40
about Villa Villa Park game
52:42
game we saw didn't we
52:44
reverse game at Newcastle where
52:46
Newcastle ran all over
52:48
Avon Villa up at St.
52:50
James's and kind of did the same thing
52:53
actually at Villa Park which thought was a
52:55
real off day for Unai Emery and his
52:57
team but I thought was it was a
52:59
real kind of shot in the arm for
53:02
Eddie and it's been under a little bit
53:04
of pressure and talk about players leaving and
53:06
you know this team
53:08
gonna be able to get that style again I've just thought there's
53:10
a lot of the good things
53:13
we'd like to see about Eddie Al's
53:15
team it wrapped up in in this
53:17
victory and they were well deserved of
53:19
the three points and I
53:21
thought really excellent day for the team and the
53:23
manager really deserves a little bit of credit because
53:25
you know he's sticking by his beliefs Robin he's
53:28
gonna do it his way and he's gonna do
53:30
the way playing the football he wants to
53:32
play and these players look like they're with him in that
53:34
as well yeah I just got proved wrong there this game
53:36
I just thought Villa the way they're playing they got the
53:38
best home record in the Premier
53:40
League you cast off the second worst you
53:43
know given all that given a Villa Park they've
53:45
been playing at Villa Park for almost a month
53:48
this is the league and this is our sport
53:50
that you just can never tell and
53:53
and and you cast united I mean the
53:56
manager before and Rob talked about getting back
53:58
on track meant he needs their confidence He
54:00
needs momentum and he needs rhythm. He said
54:02
you only get confidence. I totally agree by
54:04
winning games They've won this
54:06
game that's gonna help confidence They're gonna get
54:08
some momentum and that's probably gonna help their
54:11
rhythm. So incredible performance and resolve in Newcastle
54:13
United I didn't see coming You
54:16
know, I think they went up to eighth place
54:18
They've dropped down to so there was a seventh
54:20
that it dropped down to eighth right now But
54:22
just just and also the celebrations afterwards with Bruno
54:25
Gamira's going to the fan. Yeah, it is The
54:28
you know if they can get it revved up again this
54:30
rest of the season They can run they can
54:32
have a run again. We're going on there. Yeah.
54:34
Yeah, they can yeah Could
54:36
be like seven places couldn't it? Yeah, we'll
54:39
be down to seven play. Yeah Yeah,
54:41
I mean they're just sitting outside now that
54:43
eight eight in in the table
54:45
But yeah, they can certainly rev it up again
54:47
and it's in James's part They can do that
54:49
and I'm not just gonna give you
54:51
my underpitiate form of the week my friend And
54:55
he's a big center off Fabian share Who
54:57
signed for Newcastle about five and a
55:00
half years ago? And I don't you
55:02
remember they paid about three to four
55:04
million dollars or something around that number
55:06
Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah, the quality
55:09
contract from the Portivo La Coruña and
55:11
in Spain I think they
55:13
got relegated he had a clause they bought
55:15
him for I say three four million dollars
55:17
and What a
55:19
buy he's been mate, it's less than a
55:21
million dollars a year you'd say he's cost
55:24
them Yeah a brace on the day Eddie
55:26
Al said he's got the ability at times
55:28
if we were struggling for a center forward
55:30
when Isaac came off
55:32
that he said he could play up front.
55:35
He's technically that good. Yeah, it's listen to
55:37
national and and the
55:39
reason why I sort of is
55:41
my underpitiate mate is that He's
55:44
one of those players who's totally kind of
55:46
under the radar Not
55:48
overly appreciated by anyone who is in the Newcastle
55:50
fan I think Newcastle fans would know how important
55:52
he's been in his relationship with Bum and they
55:54
love him But I think outside of that no
55:56
one would really talk about it. You know, he's
55:59
not a big name He's not a
56:01
headline grabber, but Fabian Schär is the
56:03
kind of player every manager needs and
56:05
every manager would want in his team
56:07
mate. I just thought he's two goals
56:10
in the way he plays and he's
56:12
defending and his attitude and
56:15
will to win sometimes from
56:18
the back. It's been a really
56:20
big important thing. So
56:22
Fabian Schär gets my underappreciated form of the
56:24
week. I really like it because he's fed
56:26
every single minute and sometimes he's
56:28
sent a back shrub. With all the areas
56:30
on the field, centre backs sometimes literally go
56:32
under the radar because clever
56:35
players defend like him, they're reading stuff. They
56:37
come across, they intercept boards, they make clever
56:39
tackles, they don't have to make last hit
56:41
tackles that we all notice and we say
56:43
wow what a performance because the best defenders
56:46
don't get in that situation. He's excellent in terms
56:48
of coming out with a ball with his distribution.
56:50
He's loved because of that main asset
56:53
I guess really is coming forward and spraying the
56:55
balls around and getting a couple of goals like
56:57
that, being consistent performer and I said right at the top
56:59
of our Marcus Rashford about the
57:01
importance of trying to be really
57:03
consistent and I know there was a
57:05
big article about Fabian Schär and how
57:08
the fans absolutely love him Rob. So
57:10
it's a good shout to remind everybody
57:12
that sometimes centre backs that don't slide
57:14
challenge or leap and head balls clear
57:16
can be really important
57:18
players and Fabian Schär for Newcastle United really
57:20
really is. So I like it. He
57:23
had a great game both defensively and of
57:25
course getting a couple of goals. He's up in
57:27
set pieces, he finishes off really nice, he's quick
57:29
to the second goal by reading the play very
57:32
quickly so yeah like it and Newcastle United wow.
57:35
Great performance here and one of the best of the weekend really was.
57:40
Talking about things you didn't see coming
57:42
my friend, Brighton going to Vikini, Luton
57:47
scoring in the first five minutes
57:49
or so wasn't it? He got a goal early
57:51
on so he needed to set the tone of
57:53
the day and end up winning four, could have
57:55
been five and Brighton just
57:58
not the Brighton we've seen. under
58:00
Desirby. I just
58:02
couldn't believe that. I wasn't able to
58:04
watch the game so I was seeing
58:07
the school line coming in and had a bio
58:10
with a hat-trick great for
58:12
him coming from the league football the first
58:14
time in the Premier League to get a
58:16
hat-trick. What a job Rob Edwards
58:18
and this group are doing. He moved out of
58:21
the bottom three with the wind mob so he
58:23
jumped above Luton as well.
58:25
I mean, this league. I've got to
58:27
be honest, Rob, I
58:29
saw a bit of Luton playing in
58:31
the FA Cup over the weekend. We
58:33
had all the games and I
58:37
couldn't believe how good
58:40
football they played by the way. I think
58:42
it was Everton they played in the FA Cup. Right. Nil-Nil
58:46
Dural. But Luton, by
58:48
far the better team. By far
58:50
the better team. It was a
58:52
bit awkward watching that they
58:55
were passing the ball around and Luton had a good shape
58:57
about them. Well set up. They had
58:59
a bit of threat at the top
59:01
end. I'm telling you,
59:04
they've got a shout mate. They're in with
59:06
a healthy shout of drawing one or two
59:08
others back into this and maybe
59:11
not being the team that everybody had is
59:13
one of those three to go down. So
59:16
great work by Rob Edwards in that group
59:18
of players. That being said about the way
59:20
they played in the FA Cup, there's still
59:22
a simplicity about Luton, Rob, that makes them
59:24
really interesting. There's a simplicity about them. Oghbunny
59:26
scored a goal. He scored the third goal,
59:28
I think it was. I'm not sure. He
59:31
scored a goal for them. He's a wide
59:33
player. You watch him, gets it, swings
59:35
in the box. No messing around, no
59:37
little combination play. They get it wide
59:41
to very much your Wimbledon team, Rob. It's up
59:43
to the big striker, simplify, get it wide, get
59:45
in the box, cross the balls in. It's kind
59:47
of simple. At a bias, it's a handful. Watch
59:49
him last year in the championship. Morris
59:53
up front were a good combination. They keep it simple. They're
59:55
not trying to play out from the back. They're not trying
59:57
to do it burnly. They're not trying to do it where
59:59
everybody else is doing right now. They don't do
1:00:01
a lot of that. If it's on they'll do that,
1:00:03
but mostly it's vertical football. They get it forward, they
1:00:06
get it wide, they get it into the box. And
1:00:08
just when it looks like every team in the Premier
1:00:10
League wants to be a silky team out from the
1:00:13
back, it might just be that one team that play
1:00:15
it differently and go a little bit... Again,
1:00:18
I don't really want to say old school, old
1:00:20
fashioned. Yeah, it's not route one because they've done
1:00:23
it's different than that, but I know what you
1:00:25
mean. They're not messing around. Well,
1:00:27
everybody knows what they're doing, and they get balls in
1:00:29
the box, mate. It's difficult to handle. They get to
1:00:31
take chances and they create havoc. Yeah, absolutely right. So
1:00:33
well done. Well done, Lew and Town. I mean, that
1:00:36
is going to be a story. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
1:00:38
if they stay in their vision, it's
1:00:40
hard to get your head around that. It's amazing
1:00:42
what Rob Ebb was just doing and improving. That'll
1:00:45
be managed over the year, by the way. That's
1:00:47
managed over the year. Just put it down. Just
1:00:49
close it down. I don't care what Pat's giving.
1:00:52
I know. I know. All right, other games, Rob,
1:00:54
just quickly because we're going on forever here. Crystal
1:00:56
Palace had a good game. I mean, those two
1:00:58
players, Michael, Elise, Einabrache, Edna. Yeah, those two are
1:01:01
different. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know
1:01:03
how long they're going to hold on to those
1:01:05
two players, but they are. They make that team
1:01:07
go from stodgy and average to solid,
1:01:10
good shape and with talent creating score
1:01:12
goals. I mean, those two combined throughout,
1:01:15
it was stunning from them. Really great
1:01:17
win from them. Sheffield United are much
1:01:19
improved under Chris Wilder. But Eze
1:01:21
and Elise, they were the difference. Yeah,
1:01:23
Elise, Eze scores a winning goal, bends it in with his
1:01:25
left foot off the post. Brilliant goals
1:01:28
from there. Great, great, great. Crystal Palace.
1:01:30
West Ham won. We saw that one Bournemouth today. Yeah,
1:01:34
West Ham. Yeah, a little Calvin Phillips. Look, Lera
1:01:37
wasn't it on the ball? Well, he looked a
1:01:39
little rusty to me, Rob. He looked a little
1:01:41
rusty to me. Yeah, yeah. He was
1:01:43
in great trouble. He can take a couple of games, isn't he?
1:01:45
Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. And
1:01:47
then the VAR. See, that's a good use of
1:01:50
VAR. Mo Kudus, who
1:01:52
gets clipped as he goes through, referee
1:01:54
doesn't see it. Yeah. That's
1:01:56
VAR. It's very best to say, oh, hang on.
1:01:58
In other words, there's real content. that there.
1:02:00
That's a clear and obvious error. Nothing subjective
1:02:02
about that and that's what it's there for
1:02:04
and that's what needs to come in. Brilliant.
1:02:07
So we bash B.A.R. that was a great
1:02:09
example of okay come over. I mean it
1:02:11
took two minutes and 42 seconds which
1:02:14
is long but I you
1:02:16
know because we see it we saw me and Tim
1:02:18
in the studio we get the replay oh yeah there's
1:02:20
one set there that's been my penalty and it just
1:02:22
takes a little bit too long but yeah that's what
1:02:24
it's for. Clear and obvious error penalty,
1:02:26
war prowess knocks it in the game
1:02:28
and the game ends 1-1.
1:02:31
I just wanted to mention that in the last game Rob and
1:02:34
you can wrap up whatever you want here. Full
1:02:36
of nil, Everton nil, bit of a snoozer. Yeah
1:02:40
a bit of a snoozer. Everton had a
1:02:42
chase, Bato had a chase, a great chance
1:02:44
later on didn't he? Big striker. Ball came
1:02:46
across, you had it onto the bar or
1:02:48
something but
1:02:50
yeah yeah could have wrapped up all three
1:02:53
points. And that was a midweek round. Yeah
1:02:55
Everton just need to pick up again. Yeah
1:02:57
that was your midweek, eventful midweek primary games,
1:02:59
top four teams all won Liverpool sit top
1:03:01
of the pile on Manchester United Avenue, main
1:03:03
man it's Kobe. He grabbed a late winner
1:03:06
at wall to give them all three points.
1:03:08
That's it for this midweek we'll be back
1:03:11
on Sunday that's February 4th which recaps match
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