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Hello and welcome to the Two Robies

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podcast. Your destination for in-depth discussion

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and analysis of the Premier League.

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I'm Robbie Musto, he's Robbie Erland.

0:50

Here are today's topics.

0:53

It's advantage Liverpool in the tighter race

0:55

after Manchester City and Arsenal play out

0:57

a stale Neil-Neil draw. Jurgen

1:00

Klopp outfoxes potential successor and

1:02

Roberto D'Serbius, Liverpool, come from

1:04

behind to win 2-1 against

1:06

Brighton. Eric Tenharg's future

1:08

as Manchester United boss begins to

1:10

look bleaker after a poor performance

1:12

in a 1-1 draw at Brentford. And

1:15

Robbie Erland travelled to Tottenham to watch their

1:17

victory against Luton Town and had a special

1:19

interview with the man who scored the game

1:21

winner. That's what we've got

1:23

coming up in today's episode. All

1:27

right, Robbie Erland, my friend. Yes,

1:29

sir. I hope you're doing well. I know you're having

1:31

a little bit of a trip, which is great. Great

1:34

to catch up with you again. Uh-huh.

1:37

OK, so let's start with the big game,

1:39

Rob, and we've been talking about it and

1:41

building up for weeks on end, it feels

1:43

like. Man City, Neil, Arsenal,

1:46

Neil, in a game

1:48

that we'll get to Liverpool. It's a

1:50

great day for Liverpool on this Sunday.

1:52

But I mean,

1:54

how disappointed with you were

1:57

you, Rob, with this game in

1:59

general? You know coming out of no-no Just

2:03

before getting to game Bob just let our views and

2:05

this is now you know I'm over in the UK

2:07

on a bit of a special trip that hopefully we'll

2:09

get to deal later in the future NBC I'm

2:12

actually at my mom's house. It's only at my

2:14

mom's I'm back in the box It was like

2:16

I've been in a tardis 40 years ago So

2:20

obviously it sounds and things are not quite

2:22

as good as the I do apologize I

2:25

did manage to see the game. I watched

2:27

the game. I watched the analyses

2:30

and saw the whole

2:33

thing play out Robin and I Possibly

2:36

in any I don't know I'll

2:38

give you my sort of big

2:41

headline thoughts and and and you

2:43

tell me whether they differ from maybe some of the

2:45

things You talked on in studio

2:47

the back for in Tim today so

2:50

Before the game. I'm thinking this is this is a

2:53

game for control freaks Bruce these managers

2:55

both these teams like to control the

2:57

ball Awesome of controlling in a

3:00

way where they stop the opposition get to go

3:02

City control you with possession and move you and

3:05

especially down the central areas of the pitch So

3:07

to control freaks going for the game. I've

3:09

got the central importance

3:12

of the game Both

3:15

both teams appreciated I thought

3:17

awesome in particular was set up in

3:20

a way where I thought a Queen

3:22

sheet was was a priority I

3:25

saw not getting beat and not playing to

3:27

not get beat but being Doing

3:30

what was required to not allow city to

3:32

get blue looks at goal I think only

3:34

one on shot on target in 90 minutes

3:36

away at Manchester City where they've not got

3:38

great record is an incredible staff

3:41

foot for Arsenal and Do

3:43

you know my takeaway Rob was

3:45

better result for Arsenal a? learning

3:49

experience for Arsenal Not

3:51

the mauling or even the openings that

3:54

some might have thought and I was

3:56

a bit more Well done

3:58

awesome not great game didn't

4:00

particularly play in the attacking areas

4:02

of the pitch in fact where

4:04

I thought no midfield

4:06

or striker or

4:08

attacking player on any area of the pitch

4:10

looked particularly in form looked like they were going

4:13

to particularly make some It's Jesus. I've got

4:15

the shot chances for Arsenal

4:18

Trossard maybe should do better later on Herland

4:20

didn't quite look at it got caught up

4:22

with a fight with Gabriel and Saliba I

4:24

thought were excellent, but so what my take

4:26

away Rob was Okay,

4:28

Arsenal you've shown me something today. You show

4:31

me you can go man city you

4:33

can tough it out You can do

4:35

a little bit of parking. It's not really

4:37

you that you school your goals Yeah, you

4:40

didn't go and play a little bit open You

4:42

didn't go and get done and you know what

4:44

a little bit of Jose Mourinho tied That's

4:47

what it takes to get as a title I'm

4:50

kind of okay with your mate this team

4:52

at school so many goals that play the sut

4:54

flare I'm kind of okay

4:56

They're also have shown me on a

4:58

one-off day that can do something else

5:00

that might be a step towards winning

5:03

title Yeah, listen, you make a lot

5:05

of sense you make a lot of sense is funny,

5:07

you know because of the two of us You know,

5:09

I'm the one that would normally say that and I

5:11

think you are the one that wants a little bit

5:13

more Yeah,

5:16

I mean I think maybe my expectation Rob

5:18

and this is me it's just on me

5:21

and maybe Rebecca and Tim a little

5:23

bit the studio as well I just

5:25

felt it was a it was a moment

5:27

where Arsenal could really seize control of everything

5:29

and Kind of yeah

5:32

Show everybody that they've grown to a point

5:34

where they can be physical they can defend

5:37

Yeah, they can play and they can make

5:40

us to run around a little bit you

5:42

know, we saw man city get ragged and

5:44

stretched and stressed against Liverpool and I

5:48

know they're different to our side. Just I guess

5:50

I was hoping for more of a front foot,

5:52

right? We're gonna play a little bit. We're gonna

5:54

make it hard for you But

5:56

but it wasn't like that and then

5:58

you know what? we saw was

6:01

durable Arsenal, strong Arsenal and both

6:03

teams, Rob, if I had to

6:06

kind of summarise the priority

6:08

of such is that both were

6:10

scared of the other and what I mean by

6:12

that is that when Man City gave

6:15

the ball away or Arsenal had it, they were

6:17

really, really good and quick to win it back

6:19

again. They understand that the quality

6:21

of Arsenal, they were great to get

6:24

it back with a high press, with a

6:26

counter press where they have it, they give

6:28

it away, they get it back again and they

6:30

had Arsenal in that old straight jacket I've talked

6:32

to before where they're smothered and they couldn't get

6:34

out but that's credit to the way that City

6:36

played without the ball and for Arsenal did it

6:38

differently, behind the ball, centre backs

6:41

were outstanding, at times a low block,

6:43

defensively deep, forced back by the

6:45

football of City and that was

6:47

it, that was just day or night. But

6:50

back to you Rob, you're right, I mean

6:52

that's progression and Michael Aterto on the

6:54

pitch and when we ran his interview

6:57

was smiling, he was really

7:00

happy with that, the way that

7:02

they played and getting the point, I mean like

7:04

you said there were so few chances, let me

7:06

throw a question back to you Rob, give

7:09

the result of Liverpool and

7:12

give them what a nil-nil meant in terms

7:14

of both teams, it's

7:16

okay to be happy with that and it's good for

7:18

Arsenal but are they now, and we'll get onto Liverpool

7:20

in a second, it

7:23

puts some points

7:25

behind, I know there's only two points, there's only one

7:27

game but Liverpool's run coming

7:30

up is pretty winnable and we

7:32

know Arsenal's got the Champions League

7:34

complications and games and stresses and

7:37

concerns and recoveries after those games so

7:40

everybody's happy, well not everybody's happy,

7:43

Aterto's really happy but was

7:45

it a missed opportunity Rob, was it the one

7:48

thing to do? Okay, it's

7:50

a great question, I'm going to just

7:53

come to something else you said before that

7:55

I just want to slightly address as well,

7:58

in that sometimes Rob, And I've

8:00

been, I'm not saying when I'm there, it does

8:02

now, because when I'm there, it absolutely happens, because

8:04

I get caught up in it as well. We

8:07

start our production sort of conversations, and me

8:09

and you will often be chatting on a

8:11

Wednesday about a game like this, and you

8:13

know, we start our theories and our thoughts

8:15

and our breakdowns and all that kind of

8:17

stuff. And we'll have a production call, and

8:19

we get a sense of what people are

8:21

thinking and leading, and sometimes,

8:24

Rob, between that group, we

8:26

can all get in a situation where we

8:28

can convince each other of what's gonna happen.

8:31

So you said me, Tim, and the back,

8:33

so we're saying it wasn't quite a game.

8:35

Yeah, I'm sitting here maybe, because I'm not

8:37

in those conversations, and I'm watching a little

8:39

bit objectively, like with no other voices around,

8:42

I'm sat in my lungs on Easter Sunday,

8:44

watching a game, and I'm thinking,

8:47

I'm so bad, you know, I don't mind

8:49

this. And maybe that's part of why sometimes

8:51

you get slightly skewed or different, but when

8:53

you're not in the group. It's like a

8:55

little group bias. Yeah, and

8:58

so I just wanted to put that there. But

9:01

the other thing you said, which I thought was

9:03

it, is you're like handing the advantage to Liverpool,

9:06

and get the point, and actually, the

9:08

two-point gap now does give them

9:10

an advantage of, there's absolutely

9:12

more drama left in these nine games

9:14

to go, and we'll

9:17

start to get to the stage,

9:19

Rob, where the opposition is gonna

9:22

be less than the pressure that the

9:24

games want. I think of Arsenal this time last

9:27

season. April was at night, man, with Arsenal last

9:29

season. They got hammered by City, the West Ham

9:31

game, I think. Was it not even for each,

9:33

done them late on towards the

9:35

end, or was that early May or whatever? And,

9:38

you know, teams that were not the biggest teams.

9:40

So I kind of

9:42

feel like, yes, I've

9:44

looked at the run-in, and Liverpool,

9:47

possibly, you know, I think have probably

9:49

got about the mid-toughness, but

9:52

I just felt today, Rob, it

9:55

was a day when people weren't gonna be able

9:57

to say, oh, Arsenal balled it, there goes Arsenal.

10:00

that was the Arsenal we've been saying about. Do you

10:02

know what? They've answered that a little bit. So they've

10:04

gone to City, they score every game, was it 50-odd

10:06

games they scored? I think they scored at home games.

10:08

56-57. I

10:11

think the last time we got to go back to October 2021 against

10:14

Crystal Palace, they stopped my

10:16

City scoring. They had to

10:19

look physically. I loved Gabriel and Saliba,

10:21

Gabriel and Erland Haaland at the end,

10:23

having a go, sort of mutual

10:25

respect, toms around each other. I thought it

10:27

was a good sign for an Arsenal man.

10:30

That's respect. That's not an Arsenal team anymore

10:32

when Pep goes, oh, Arsenal are brilliant team,

10:34

Arteta's a great man. A bit... A

10:36

little bit condescending at times when he's beat your 5-0

10:38

or 4-1 in, he's saying

10:41

what a great team you are. Today Arsenal

10:43

gave them a challenge and made it difficult

10:45

for them. And they're

10:47

still in it, Rob, is my point. My big

10:49

point is, they are still

10:51

very much in this title race

10:53

with a mentality of, that

10:56

was a big day for us today.

10:58

We kept Manchester City clean, we're two

11:00

points behind, but that's a massive game

11:02

out of the way with 9-0. I

11:06

think it's a mental win,

11:09

more than a points win for Arsenal. Just

11:12

switching over to Man City a

11:14

little bit, Rob, I'm looking at the league table now.

11:16

Three points behind Liverpool. The

11:20

goal difference is five goals

11:22

worse rather than Liverpool. If

11:24

they slip up again in the next couple

11:27

of Premier League matches and

11:30

Liverpool... The gap

11:32

could get a little tasty, it could get a

11:34

little big. City now...

11:36

Robbie Musto, Robbie Musto, three

11:40

on the bounce, we're talking four, we're

11:42

talking pep. I hear you,

11:44

but... They slip

11:47

up again. I know

11:49

history, right? And that history is incredibly

11:51

impressive because of how hard it is.

11:53

And we can't assume, Rob, that they're

11:55

going to keep doing that incredible Champions

11:58

League later stages and keep grinding. you

12:00

know, winning every single game, that's extraordinary, and they've

12:02

done it. But it's hard. And

12:04

now, when I see a three-point gap there,

12:06

we're going into the 30th game of the

12:08

season now, another

12:10

slip, and the other two don't slip, I

12:13

don't know, it looks like it could get

12:15

much harder for Man City. And

12:18

I think it didn't make the point that they might, they could

12:20

like, you know what, the Ramagid

12:22

games, they might

12:26

tilt towards the Champions League, or you're not having that, it's

12:28

shaking your head, I don't even see that. No.

12:31

No, I'm hearing you, I want to hear you out,

12:33

I want to hear the argument, and I think it's

12:35

a valid argument. I've been behind two teams. I totally

12:37

agree with it. City now. They're behind

12:39

two teams now, Man City. There's two teams. They're

12:42

probably behind two teams. Have they not

12:44

been in a similar situation before? I mean, I'll

12:46

tell you what they've got, Robin, and I'm going

12:48

to the Man City game this week before

12:51

I head back to the US. I'm

12:53

going to the Man City Villa on Wednesday, which

12:56

is an interesting game. And as

12:58

you said, if they were to slip up

13:00

there, not win the game. Rob,

13:04

I think during the course of the

13:06

season, and in K2, you've sort of

13:08

gone, not sure about City,

13:11

then we're sure about City, and then seem to

13:13

be going there, oh, you know, is

13:15

this like, that hunger, that trouble, that thing, you

13:17

know, when you've told them at times, and then

13:19

they were on the run, you

13:22

went, City, look like they're coming back to them, and then now

13:24

we're going back there a little bit. I

13:26

still continue to say from day one, City

13:28

are going to be the team. I've seen

13:30

what Liverpool are, and I thought you and

13:33

Tim made some great points today. I thought

13:35

the breakdown was excellent, the

13:37

way they won the game, and the way they passed the goal,

13:40

and the things that we'll come to talk about. But

13:43

I still believe in City, Rob,

13:45

who didn't play well today,

13:48

had all the possession, didn't look as dangerous,

13:50

didn't have as many looks on goal that

13:52

you would expect. I still

13:54

believe in them, I still believe in the group.

13:57

This wasn't the City team that got beat today. who

14:00

could have lost it 1-0 on an

14:02

ugly day and also got a result

14:04

and then we're asking questions. I still

14:06

believe in Pep, I still believe in

14:08

the group and I still think and

14:10

it might sound a weird thing to

14:12

say and City fans may totally disagree

14:14

with me but Pep still proud of

14:16

Taz is the title. They've won the

14:18

Champions League and I know to go

14:21

back to back Champions League would be

14:23

huge and maybe look better on his

14:25

CV to win a 38 game Premier

14:27

League season of this calibre with the

14:30

three teams in the race with the

14:32

quality of teams around them and

14:34

quality of coaches around them this is still I think

14:37

a priority for Manchester City to retain the title. Yeah

14:39

and they want to be the first team to win

14:41

it four times on the spin never been done in

14:43

top flying. Absolutely. I think that's a huge thing to

14:45

go for. I'm going to throw it back to Rob

14:48

in terms of performance today from some of these City

14:50

players and I think we know we appreciate why this

14:55

game was the way it was it was

14:57

mainly because of Arsenal was really strong organised

14:59

and aggressive central defenders. Erlan Harland,

15:02

I'm guilty

15:04

of it as much as anybody else, when there's a

15:07

big game and when there's

15:09

such little impact from him I

15:11

do okay let

15:13

me throw it as a question were you

15:15

disappointed a little bit in Erlan Harland Rob

15:17

the player that's you know you've brought to

15:19

be that difference maker give

15:23

me a thought on him today. Well

15:26

today I thought he was

15:29

brilliantly defended so I could give credit

15:31

to all the back two one got tight

15:33

one dropped off they were physical it's almost

15:35

like it took them 18 months

15:38

to work it out but there's almost a bit

15:40

of a plan now to deal with Erlan Harland

15:42

now Erlan Harland took to man City Rob is

15:44

the wrecking ball at the top of the pitch

15:47

that hammers home their advantage when they're

15:49

dominating game and creating chances they're not

15:51

particularly creating as many chances and he's

15:54

not looking sharp We'll go

15:56

on to talk about Liverpool and most

15:58

Salah 16 goals 9-6. An

16:00

incredible for his kind of threat role

16:02

of even before we schools. It's not

16:05

his movies but they pulled down the

16:07

side the bleakness if if if if

16:09

much as the city as as. Most.

16:12

Other today they won the game. Most of

16:14

it would it would have would have found them and as a

16:16

one new. Sibling Hall

16:19

and it's not quite a mouthful at

16:21

the moment and the team will produce

16:23

enough for him. And he is. As.

16:26

Crazy as while these not a signed if you

16:28

know in skip past three people do not be

16:30

shown them you know it's not that time the

16:32

center for with his nine nine nine it enables

16:35

that I suppose robin I think we could weaken

16:37

an irrelevant wasn't if they wouldn't have their own

16:39

every forward you can think up with we suck

16:41

of habits and Jesus and phone and and been

16:43

on a silver and hot in the office Day

16:46

in there it was it was not there, died

16:48

because mainly because both teams are really good. When

16:50

they didn't have possession of a bonus winds have

16:52

been known illness com. The. Yeah yeah that

16:55

less we have it on Rob to the

16:57

early game in the day is he ready

16:59

Jan bomb which is Liverpool yeah of a

17:01

fun game on what your and we and

17:03

we talked to identify and and game of

17:05

football for yeah and club with Brian The

17:07

way that they play and roberta deserve be

17:09

you know really in the frame Rob really

17:11

in the frame the have on my T

17:13

s see accident the next Liverpool manager finished

17:16

up to one they were come from behind

17:18

the get on Liverpool the season incredible amount

17:20

times if done that the season most our

17:22

scoring. A really lovely go and

17:24

I saw taught me about Wow you how

17:26

you found this game today and will impress

17:28

the most of our Liverpool. Ah,

17:32

wealth. Of. Things of action

17:34

and and you got soul to file

17:36

the the graphic that you put out

17:38

just that ability from the imposition of

17:40

and gotta stay down and beautiful start

17:42

some well but is that they see

17:44

him if you look exhausted put line

17:46

have an attacking threat that always was

17:48

like it's gonna get those it it

17:50

can get you feel they can score

17:52

themselves. Alex liberal and that was the

17:54

will they make great point and knows

17:56

what's in game. He played out of

17:59

minute Tools Lions. They couldn't write

18:01

his last movie was sleeping on.

18:03

If anything, read em. On.

18:05

A bradley in and bow and hand. You

18:08

know Matthaus ago in of an outsider to

18:10

M and A making things happen and it

18:12

was a was one against the other posts

18:14

were backed him on the sat inside and

18:16

defensive side. He's

18:19

is the there's a there's a

18:21

freshness about Liverpool that this stage

18:23

of the season that's impressive considering

18:26

what they consume. And to hims

18:28

it. Now so I'm still

18:30

plays been out for periods of time, not

18:32

always been that the attack that they made

18:34

wasn't you know they didn't install about to

18:36

to fitness now back in the team in

18:38

scoring and and the threat that. Come

18:41

with them. The title, he his goals

18:43

not come with them a child. Know

18:45

you talk about Mcallister now one's and

18:47

you're not his influence. On going to

18:49

hold my hands up with with then tell in midfield the

18:51

law was in New Rome and I would have the. Be.

18:54

Athletic ability to hold that number six

18:56

old for Liverpool t many times are

18:58

going to push people forwards of put

19:00

our minds up a them wrong is

19:03

is is football I choose much for

19:05

Evans I saw a position or play

19:07

gets around dangerous areas not is not

19:09

a quick easy me the zip the

19:11

best athletes were using offered a great

19:13

poeple than intelligent football and knows where

19:15

to be and his kind is. Civil.

19:20

As console as as of improvement in about

19:22

line is allowing metallic it's going to the

19:24

things that we used to see a bright

19:26

and will fit for. Things like this Freya

19:28

were very could go in North american school

19:30

system proud know the sudden that isn't absolutely

19:32

another not seem that that gives medical makes

19:35

Liverpool a mass effect may in any game

19:37

and absolutely massive threat yeah I couldn't agree

19:39

more. Rob that that front six I kind

19:41

of said today on the show like with

19:43

end up doing his job where you're right

19:45

I mean to be sad though it was

19:47

the first few games of i know. i

19:49

think we should be and stuff out while

19:52

he looks a little bit mike overpowered yeah

19:54

so we sat totally totally happy to to

19:56

say wow diamonds of yeah how to hundred

19:58

years he has proof himself to be a

20:01

brilliant little interceptor of staff, keeps the

20:03

ball super simple in possession and

20:06

one of the things that does is push Macales

20:08

to forward. Now apart from, so there's a couple

20:10

of points here, Macales

20:12

to Endo and Soberslei, that's a good midfield

20:15

three now, a little bit like Reiss has

20:17

been pushed forward because of Gugino, Macales has

20:19

been pushed forward because of Endo, Mo Salah

20:21

wide on the right, Darwin-Yuniez wasn't his best

20:24

day but he's been in good form and

20:26

Luis Diaz who gets the first goal. Now

20:29

that six can bed in,

20:31

now it can bed in, Mo Salah was

20:33

out for a little while and they're very

20:35

careful to bring him back, he looks in

20:38

tip-top flipping, I thought he was outstanding today

20:40

Mo Salah and played a lot away from

20:42

the right-hand side, lots of time spent in

20:45

between the lines, you know more than normal,

20:47

like he's mostly out there but different today

20:49

and so you put that front six together

20:51

with games, with rhythm and then let me

20:53

add this to you Rob Eerle, that's making

20:55

a difference. First off, Cuivine Kellahad,

20:57

the goalkeeper, the manager describes him

21:00

as the best number two goalkeeper in

21:02

the world, has been excellent and the

21:04

emergence of, you know what I'm going

21:06

to say, Conor Bradley and Giroir Quonsa.

21:09

Giroir Quonsa is my man, I've

21:11

got to circle around Giroir Quonsa,

21:13

I think Bradley's got

21:16

more attention and obviously you

21:18

know for them for Trent

21:20

and whatever, Quonsa mate could

21:22

have just saved you 60

21:24

million dollars by the way,

21:26

21 years of age, could have just saved you

21:29

60 odd million dollars to have gone find a

21:31

partner for Van Dijk. Yeah, I just, I

21:33

want to obviously, we're thinking the same thing Rob,

21:35

those two plus that front six plus a goalkeeper

21:37

that's really, I mean I tell

21:40

you if you're a Liverpool fan, we know what's happening with

21:42

Jochen Klopp, we know the last game of the seasons at

21:44

Anfield and you know

21:46

us as a group of a broadcaster, we're going

21:48

to be somewhere on the last day, it wouldn't

21:50

surprise me if we're sat pitch side at Anfield

21:53

to see if Liverpool can pull it off because they

21:55

are two points clear Rob Eel, you know what I look

21:58

at with the data in fact, games

22:00

lost. Games lost. Liverpool

22:02

have lost just two and it's

22:05

very often... I'm going to be the Spurs game man,

22:07

man. Terrible game, Terrible game, Terrible. Let

22:12

me come back on you. Let me come back to you Mr

22:14

Moris, because I know you have a theory, and

22:16

I love your theories, I love to

22:18

dispel some of the theories. So your

22:20

theory, your latest theory is Arsenal

22:23

and Manchester City both in Champions League

22:25

quarterfinals, one league, one league, one league,

22:27

so they've got the work cut out,

22:29

one to get through and then two

22:31

they could meet up and that

22:33

is going to take some

22:35

attention, some physicality, we don't know

22:38

how those will play out. Liverpool on the

22:40

other hand have got the Europa. The Europa

22:42

would be seen as a significant

22:44

trophy but not as

22:46

big as the Premier League. I think

22:49

you were sensing and Tim Stranden went

22:51

that way again in the studio in

22:53

terms of maybe a priority of things

22:55

go on and I thought that was

22:57

an interesting take. First of

22:59

all I look at Liverpool's fixtures Rob.

23:03

Next weekend we'll

23:05

talk about that in a moment but they've got

23:07

Man United, we know what Man United is, we

23:09

know what Man United is now. They've got Sheffield

23:12

United before that at home on

23:14

Thursday. They've got Sheffield United at home which is a win,

23:17

which is a win. So

23:19

they go to Man United which I'm

23:21

trying to go to the games where

23:23

I see there might be something. Manchester

23:26

United, which just that rivalry alone tells

23:28

you that that's not going to be

23:30

an easy win if they win but

23:32

let's just say, they're trying to go

23:34

adorby against Everton for the very

23:36

same reason. I think they'll get through that but a game

23:38

will be a bit of a difficult one. That's not going

23:40

to be a range yet, is that going

23:43

to be a later rearrange

23:46

game? I've just got them down on my

23:48

list of games which were played in the

23:50

list. I think that's going to be later.

23:52

They're first to play Rob, they're further to

23:55

play. I think the last two before the end of

23:57

the season and this West Ham which I think they've

23:59

won. sorry, it was a good football

24:01

team but I would think you can do well.

24:03

I suppose in Villa hold a little bit of

24:06

danger if they have good days, we know what

24:08

they can look like and I'm thinking. So

24:11

bear with me. We've

24:13

decided under the European stream

24:28

on the Premier League. What if the Premier League doesn't come

24:30

then? A league cup for Jürgen Krop on

24:33

that day you were talking about at the end of

24:35

the season, can they afford to gamble

24:37

on a leading cup

24:39

being the send off

24:41

for Jürgen? I just don't feel they could do that,

24:43

Rob, right now. I slightly

24:46

disagree with the theory that if

24:48

it comes to well, bin off

24:50

the Europa. I'm just not sure

24:52

that these nine games to go,

24:54

that with that

24:57

stronger position where they go, I can't

24:59

with a four or five point gap,

25:02

you go, come on, but I just

25:04

don't, it's one win and one loss

25:06

away from something changing. Even if they,

25:09

and I hear you, I

25:11

said they could tilt towards the Premier

25:13

League, you know, but if

25:15

they don't Rob, Jürgen Krop is like

25:17

you and he wants to go out

25:20

for every competition, I would also say

25:22

that Atalanta is easier than Bayern Munich

25:24

and Real Madrid, so the Europa League

25:26

games will be in

25:28

theory kind of easier. I'm just trying

25:30

to, the whole point was

25:33

those Champions League games that Man City

25:35

and Arsenal are absolutely going to be

25:37

going flat out for as well. You

25:39

know, they are stressful, difficult matches and

25:42

Liverpool's, whether they really go for it

25:44

or don't quite, they should be a

25:46

bit more comfortable. They could just give

25:48

them an age in terms of resting

25:50

players, Rob, ready for big Premier League

25:53

games after those games. I

25:55

just think it, listen, we've watched this

25:58

league for so many years Rob, and how many times that

26:00

we are granted city

26:02

they've been like a machine but we have

26:05

seen teams after Champions League emotional

26:07

nights away in Europe summer

26:09

come back and a little

26:12

flat after those and

26:14

I just think well at this point when when

26:16

there's one point between the three teams going into

26:18

this weekend you got to think of little little

26:20

differences that could make a difference and I just

26:22

think that could be and I

26:25

mean it's I mean that they win

26:27

out or they don't make they win the league Liverpool

26:30

they've got two-point gap yeah yeah and they got the

26:32

job done today Rob

26:36

got a job done today with outstanding sir

26:38

outstanding McAllister and really really good endo as

26:41

well yeah all looks

26:43

like it's coming together and we know what you

26:45

can crops like me know the emotions are gonna

26:47

bring to it and they're gonna feel it Rob

26:49

they're gonna feel it and we've got a proper

26:51

race mate that's the thing I would say based

26:54

on what we have got a proper race it

26:56

looks like awesome I'm gonna gonna dig in there

26:58

and gonna be difficult course it's gonna have to

27:00

prove that they can come again and they can

27:02

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27:04

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29:27

game is ready to take off. Let's

29:29

play the game. 60,000 fans turn up,

29:31

make a load of noise, humanly slip

29:33

in, they go down 1-0, get caught.

29:37

With the full bat in those advanced positions, they

29:39

get hit down the right hand side. Bob

29:43

will play particularly well, slops the ball across and John

29:45

puts it in there, the one they'll down all of

29:47

a sudden. It looked like it was

29:49

one of them days, Rob, where maybe after international

29:51

break and players been away and different fortunes didn't

29:53

quite happen for us. They got in the last

29:56

third a couple of times and made it to

29:58

the end of the game. many poor

30:00

decisions, Luton made some great blocks, they hit

30:02

the post a few times and Timo Verner

30:04

went through and slashes one down the slide

30:06

and you're thinking, oh, is it going to

30:08

be one of those days? But Ben and

30:10

Johnson come on, change his things a little

30:12

bit, he's lively on that right-hand side and

30:15

he'll go from Caboori, get some back in

30:17

and then we're waiting for a moment, mate.

30:19

And it's the man again, youngman's

30:22

son, who gets the goal, gets the

30:24

three points, plays goes crazy, Andrew's happy,

30:26

talks about that we can be better

30:29

in possession, we can be a little bit better with

30:31

just people having a look at the goal, but he's

30:34

pleased enough with the football. And then

30:36

I got a chance, mate, to spend five

30:38

minutes with the youngman's son after, just

30:41

in the interviewing area. So just talk

30:43

to him a little bit about his

30:45

role and the responsibility in it. And

30:47

he sort of said he's enjoying that

30:50

now as captain, the responsibility to get

30:52

the goals, to be a bit of

30:54

a leader, it's something that's not always

30:56

been part of his career, he's just been

30:58

a very good player in the team,

31:00

but now he's taking the captaincy on and what

31:03

it means. He talked about how the

31:05

players have adapted to the way that Andrew wants

31:07

to play and it's so enjoyable, that's the way

31:09

they go. He said that there's a

31:12

bit of a never-say-day attitude that he says he

31:14

feels he's got stronger under the new manager, like,

31:16

wherever we are in a game, we still feel

31:18

like we can get something out and we've kind

31:20

of seen those goals. He still thinks they can

31:22

get better and he still says

31:24

he feels like they're in a shout

31:26

from a Champions League spot. So it's

31:28

fascinating around him. He's in fact his

31:30

mate, he's loved by the Spurs fans,

31:32

he's loved by his teammates, he's brilliant

31:35

with the press. It's just, I mean,

31:37

we talked about Harry Kane leaving and

31:39

what that might look like for

31:41

Spurs and his goals and his presence and

31:43

he was a poster boy. It's

31:45

absolutely no doubt that Jumlin's son has been

31:47

able to take that on in

31:50

his own way, in his own different unique

31:52

style. It's almost

31:54

like Phil the boot in some respect of

31:56

what Harry was doing. So it was just

31:58

great to be here. a bit of a game, it's

32:00

great, it's just because, I tell you what,

32:02

one thing that, again, you know

32:05

all about, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but

32:07

the speed at which Poirot

32:10

and Udobi go high and so high,

32:12

I couldn't with time, it leaves him

32:14

in problems, by the way. Because

32:17

the only guy who's really coming back to

32:19

help me is Busuma, because SAW's gone on,

32:21

Madison's gone on, and Lum

32:23

did a good job of, right, crashing

32:25

in on Busuma, and they struggled to

32:27

get out the back a little bit

32:30

at times, and I wondered,

32:32

like, probably as I'm watching the game, like, I mean,

32:34

as this is happening, Udobi and Poirot

32:37

were in the opposition's half, and

32:39

I'm kind of thinking, at some

32:41

point maybe, on the days when maybe

32:43

the football didn't get good, one of them might just have to

32:45

come a little bit deeper, and I know, I mean, that isn't

32:47

going to be the way, but I

32:50

tell you what, Rob, once or twice they were lucky they

32:52

didn't get caught, and they'd lucky they didn't get caught, because

32:54

that would have been a difficult one. I know, but they

32:56

do, don't they? And he's

32:58

going to accept that, and it's great,

33:00

and it's fine. But I'll tell you what

33:03

was quite interesting, they got booed off a half-time,

33:05

Rob, when they won 0-down, which I thought was a

33:07

bit of a... Yeah, they got booed. It

33:09

was a stronger like, oh, and I'll have to do

33:11

with this. Some of us was

33:13

a little harsh on the team and harsh

33:15

on hands, because we know what he's like,

33:17

but yeah, you know, we won 0-down against

33:19

Luton, they got the job done, and

33:22

everything was rosy, and suddenly gets the winner, and

33:24

they deserved to win. I'm not saying it by

33:26

any means they weren't, but just those

33:28

four-backs going through again, I just wondered, and Rob

33:30

Edwards had set his team up very well, but

33:33

I just wondered if at times, I don't know

33:35

what the alternative is, because it isn't going to

33:37

be with Hans Demm coming back, but somebody else

33:39

might have to be an outlet to get the

33:41

ball to working, because they're getting a little bit

33:44

outnumbered by the press at the Liverpool. I

33:46

tell you what, what stands out, Rob, is

33:48

the advantage and the benefit of you going

33:50

to the stadium. And that's what

33:53

we could, obviously we broadcast and we do

33:55

this show in the US, and we go

33:58

over there and we absolutely adore it. and

34:00

your experience there at

34:02

Tottenham Stadium, the size of

34:04

it, the atmosphere, the booing, the way the fullbacks

34:07

play, certain things the way that the fans love

34:09

Fjörmungsson, certain things that we can add to the

34:11

broadcast if we're there and that's why when we

34:13

go over there, we're gonna hopefully go over there

34:15

for the last game of the season. There's

34:17

so much that we enjoy about it, whether it's

34:19

the physicality, the pace of the game. I thought

34:22

I was interested, Robert, when you said about the

34:24

first bit of your report, I guess, from Tottenham,

34:26

about that stadium and how it generates revenues. Now,

34:28

we all know now with the financial regulations that

34:30

every club has got to find a way

34:32

to increase their revenues so they can spend

34:34

more of those on players. And I think

34:37

I read something not long ago that Tottenham's

34:40

match day revenue is higher

34:43

than Arsenal's. They are,

34:45

because of these events and the NFL and the concerts

34:47

and everything else and the size of it, 62,000 people,

34:51

that they're doing a great job of increasing their

34:54

revenues now. And

34:56

with that, they can grow with

34:58

those revenues and

35:00

the success and qualifying for the Champions League, which

35:02

they're in, they look in pretty good spot right

35:04

now, very close to Aston Villa, three

35:07

points behind the game in hand. It just looks

35:09

like it could be a rosy future for Tottenham.

35:11

Well, the refiler players were surprised at the booing.

35:14

Given the expectation of Tottenham. It

35:17

was a little bit surprising, but it

35:19

is, mate. And just to add one thing,

35:21

because you make a few great points, and

35:23

one other thing that kind of

35:26

hit me, Bob, after about a half

35:29

day of spent there and as I was going home, how

35:32

many American fans have travelled to

35:34

Spurs to watch the game? I

35:37

was inundated about some people on

35:39

social media. I was inundated. We're

35:41

talking at

35:43

least 50 people, Americans

35:46

who were at the game. It looks like

35:48

that's going to become a chain mate. You

35:50

know, it was Easter weekend, people have flown

35:52

out on Thursday night, got their pride aid, spent

35:54

the day in London, they've gone to the

35:56

game, flying back Sunday night for Monday. Honestly,

35:59

from... from all over America.

36:02

There's a lot of spares going on. They're

36:04

obviously doing a good job as well in

36:06

terms of attracting that global audience. Yeah, I

36:08

think you're right mate. There's more and more

36:10

people I speak to that are constantly talking

36:13

about going over to watch games and I'm

36:15

like, that is so great. If any of

36:18

our listeners here or viewers or whatever get

36:20

a chance to actually go to a game,

36:22

it's so much more

36:24

than we can describe. Of

36:27

course, our TV pictures are the best that we can,

36:29

to be there. We always say the same thing,

36:31

when we go over there and we do our pitch

36:34

side hits for our US audience. It's like, you've

36:36

all got to come over and see

36:38

this because this is pretty amazing. It's

36:40

incredible. So less incredible. Let me

36:42

move on from that report. Well done Tottenham. Yeah,

36:45

because one of the big headlines is

36:47

Money United, mate. I didn't really see

36:49

this game. I saw a few pictures

36:51

later on, but you saw this

36:54

one, mate. I did. Where

36:56

are we? Eric Tenharg seems to

36:59

be trending again and not necessarily

37:01

for a good reason. Give

37:04

me your latest report on ETH.

37:07

Oh, well, it's not a

37:09

great report and it's becoming

37:11

definitive. Our regular listeners

37:13

will know what I've

37:15

said about Eric Tenharg for probably,

37:18

I'd say maybe two or three

37:20

months where I'm

37:22

kind of losing the faith here, but

37:25

it's all about champions league qualification. That

37:29

was a must win game, Rob. I said on

37:31

the board, that's a must win game. I think

37:33

I've got Liverpool and Chelsea next. Chelsea away, then

37:35

Liverpool at home for Man United. There are oodles

37:37

of points behind the likes of Tottenham and Villa.

37:39

They had to win the game. Now, we watched

37:41

Man United play against Liverpool in the FA Cup.

37:43

I was away, but I make sure I watched

37:45

it on my recurve from travelling. Yeah,

37:48

there was some fun stuff, fun game up and

37:50

down, plenty of fighting, plenty of left-wing goals,

37:52

plenty of everything that you want to see. But

37:54

when they go to Brentford, Rob, and

37:57

I'm sure we've talked about this many times, they can't

37:59

seem to... to show that fight,

38:01

show that quality that's needed in

38:03

certain games to qualify for important

38:05

things. They

38:08

look now absolutely,

38:10

I'm not going to

38:12

write them off of fifth, but they

38:15

are eight points behind Tottenham, Rob, with

38:17

nine games to go. That's

38:19

a lot to make up and if

38:22

you're the ownership and you want to reset

38:24

the club, restart

38:27

the club, give it a boost in the summer,

38:29

you get new stuff coming in from the higher,

38:31

they've kind of got people in

38:34

places now or through the club, I

38:36

would be really surprised if Eric

38:38

Tanharg is still the manager of next year. As

38:41

I continue this back on to ETH,

38:44

we always carefully watch out for his

38:47

interview after the game and

38:49

we have physically

38:51

asked him questions. I remember the first game of the

38:53

season and we watched interviews

38:55

all season long. This is another one

38:58

where he offered nothing.

39:00

He offered no answers, Rob, no answers to

39:02

our good friend Steve Bowers asking him questions

39:05

after the match, disappointing performance, what disappoints you

39:07

about it, was there a lack of

39:09

fight, did they seem to want it more

39:11

than you? He had no answers. You

39:17

want something, you want something, even if

39:19

it's not acceptable, like we go from

39:21

one to another, we've got to make

39:23

some big changes, I'm going to be

39:25

responsible for that. Just give us

39:27

something instead of, in fact, the one quote I

39:29

heard Rob at the end of all this, I

39:32

think it's a newspaper quote, was, you

39:34

know what, at the end of the season, that could be

39:36

a big point. That could be a big

39:38

point. In what world is that

39:40

a big point? He didn't have a point.

39:42

He literally said that could be a good

39:44

point. I just

39:46

don't, and I try

39:49

and do my work with

39:51

much respect for these professionals. I

39:56

just don't see an elite

39:58

manager. When I

40:00

watched his team from terms of I

40:03

mean their account there. They're literally counter-attack

40:05

inside. They have less possession again They've

40:07

scored less goals and loot in town Robbie Earl

40:10

Yeah, 40 goals for 40 goals

40:13

against and no real Powerful

40:15

interview afterwards. I don't

40:17

know where he's going. I don't know where

40:20

he's going and another another Very

40:22

disappointing Marcus Rashford outing. It's not all

40:24

good and in Rashford's world. I have

40:26

to think at the moment. Yeah and

40:30

a 1-1 score line that

40:32

that never really had them they crossed I got the

40:34

late goal with Mason Mount fair play to him Yeah,

40:37

I'm sure like the 80 1

40:39

990 996 yeah, I'd you

40:42

pull six His

40:45

cause and you know to get a point

40:47

they totally deserve so I just

40:49

disappointed with the The approach of

40:51

the team rather given what they needed Let me

40:55

just challenge it a couple of thoughts my and

40:58

see any trying you can try you go ahead

41:00

I'm trying to be devil's ed. Go on. I'm

41:02

talking and turn a few things in At

41:06

times does he not say the

41:09

things we see in the things I

41:11

think we know because He

41:15

doesn't want to put that on the players does he

41:17

see it but not say it or do you don't

41:19

think he sees it? Okay, kind of

41:21

where I'm at. It's a reasonable point where you

41:24

don't want to you don't want to throw onto

41:26

the players Okay, yeah, maybe yeah. Yeah, but we're

41:28

seeing the same things Rob. We're seeing the same

41:30

things We're seeing the same kind of

41:33

good performances bad performances good man United,

41:35

but this is this is 20 2029

41:39

games now goal difference of zero So even if the

41:41

if he's saying or not say what he's not saying

41:43

it on he's not really being critical

41:46

Yeah, and I respect that But

41:48

it doesn't give us anything else, but the team is

41:50

not getting better We are always are

41:53

always wait to be more judgmental Rob when

41:55

I have more evidence, right? Yeah, we've had

41:57

we've had a fair bit of evidence now

42:00

I always like to see progression even if

42:02

there's setbacks but a feeling that this is

42:04

moving the right direction with the right person

42:07

I mean, how can how can anybody argue

42:09

that? That well, I don't

42:11

know it's going the right direction. I'm trying to

42:13

I'm trying to find a little so I'm saying

42:16

look sure Martinez yeah,

42:18

I'm the team You

42:22

know is there a few in there that the pink

42:24

you're the other place I want to go to me

42:26

and it's something we've both done I think we both

42:28

try and be respectful of money. Just don't we're

42:31

not hiring fire and get them out

42:33

I think we like to see people

42:35

Yeah given given the opportunity to work

42:37

or get things right or wrong

42:39

as the case is I Find

42:42

every ten hard a little bit divisive Robin terms

42:44

of much to 90 fun These

42:46

phone that almost like we just

42:48

got to support this guy giving them out then

42:51

and go and then these others who are a

42:53

bit Like you I think of been patient and

42:55

not seen progression has seen a team Almost

42:58

stagnate to a team now who are

43:00

fifth sixth-gone and best, you know spurs

43:02

is an argument the way I'm just

43:04

coming and play I mean,

43:06

I'm saying this in all honesty Austin

43:09

village can be ahead of Manchester United in

43:11

the league and really Spurs shouldn't buy it

43:13

to be honest They shouldn't know

43:15

with what the quality they've got in the

43:17

managers get the manager with those group of

43:19

players I think to get get some above

43:21

but the point I'm trying to get to a little

43:23

bit with United Robin I feel it more for the fans

43:26

because I kind of read two sets of

43:30

Opinions I'm almost at this point

43:32

where you know what United times we're not you know

43:34

I don't pay my money and go to old childhood

43:36

every week and support the team and buy the shirts

43:38

and go and watch them If you're

43:40

okay with if you're happy with Eric ten of

43:42

and you know what I'm happy with him Go

43:46

knock yourself out You

43:50

know I mean and if you and for those you

43:52

know you find you want it I'm with you as

43:54

well because because I'm more a little bit going down

43:56

your road and we we have been over the last

43:58

month like League is a

44:00

big thing for this football club with a new

44:02

ownership going in, talking about

44:04

this great club and the Wembley, the North

44:06

and all the things that are saying, they've

44:09

got to be Champions League every season. That's

44:11

got to be a given to that football

44:13

club. And this guy doesn't look this time

44:15

as though, and I think you said very

44:17

early in the season, Champions League is going

44:19

to be a big decider in terms of

44:21

10-hour stay in build or does he not?

44:24

And eight points behind with nine games to

44:26

go. He's got it on, mate. By the

44:28

way, this Liverpool game next week with Manchester

44:31

United now becomes huge for both those football

44:33

clubs, by the way. Well, I

44:35

think, yeah, I think it's huge for Liverpool. I

44:38

don't think it is for Manchester United. Well, Manchester

44:40

United, what was that, mate? They didn't get in

44:42

top. Well, they're not doing it anyway. I don't

44:44

think they're doing it anyway. And if they win,

44:46

might close the gap and give them a little

44:48

look at it. Alright, if they win

44:51

the game, what does it mean for the week after? Nothing.

44:54

Well, it means that we're back in

44:56

the every 10 hours. Oh, you know,

44:58

he's close. Listen, this guy hanging there,

45:00

he's got Champions League last season, he's

45:02

found a way, can he find a

45:04

way again to do it this season?

45:07

It's almost, he's got nine games maybe to

45:09

save his Manchester United. Before

45:11

we move on, Rob, I'll

45:13

just move on with the final thought about him as

45:16

a manager. You said about the Man United fans, knock

45:18

yourself out. If you want to stay in, then good.

45:20

There's three parts of management, right? I'll just do it

45:22

one more time. There's the man management aspect of it,

45:24

getting the best from the players that he's got. And I

45:26

think we all agree that there's certain players, Rashford,

45:30

Antony, a few others, I mean,

45:32

Mount was bought. Of course, we

45:35

have the whole... We have the

45:37

old Jadon Sancho thing as well. So man management, not

45:40

really a tick. Then you have

45:42

the tactical side of things. I'm not

45:45

sure Man United fans want to see a counter-attacking side. I don't

45:48

give that. I don't think that's a check of the box either.

45:50

And then the other one is signings and transfer dealings, and he's

45:52

bought a lot of players in, with the

45:54

contacts from my... The Some

45:56

of them aren't his, but... Some of them aren't, but many

45:58

are. most of the

46:00

money he knows that he's had before and bought in.

46:02

So I think on three sides of the coin. Not

46:04

looking great is it? I don't

46:07

think so but we'll see maybe I'm wrong and maybe

46:09

they'll fuck get Bridges gap and they'll go on and

46:11

I think they'll

46:13

get less responsibility in the transfer market going forward

46:15

but yeah it was another bad one Rob and

46:17

I think some people I mean I

46:19

don't think I was that critical afterwards I think a lot of

46:21

people out there thought this is one of the worst Money United

46:23

performances for a long period of time. I

46:26

think they drew the game. 31 shots didn't they?

46:28

That Brentford had. The 31. 31

46:30

shots at goal. I think in

46:33

the last four or five games they've had 100 shots

46:35

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46:37

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46:39

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48:12

We've had a long chat. Yeah, let's just quickly talk about

48:14

one more team, mob, and then we'll just

48:17

get to the other results. It's Chelsea to

48:19

Burnley too. It's Chelsea team

48:21

against 10-man Burnley, get a man sent off, put

48:23

a bit of a horse decision to get the

48:25

penalty book, penalty scheme and he gets the second.

48:27

Yeah, very hard. And he

48:31

has to go off and currently gets sent

48:33

off. His team stand firm for him

48:35

against the Chelsea team but Positino

48:37

was quite critical, was quite critical of his

48:40

team. Things aren't going to plan,

48:42

Rob. Fans

48:44

aren't happy at that football club. It

48:47

is similar to a 10-hog situation. Is there

48:49

a point where if things continue between now

48:52

and the end of the season, is this

48:54

a job in jeopardy? It

48:58

might be in jeopardy, Rob. Again, this is

49:00

one of them where I

49:02

think might happen, my own

49:05

personal opinion on this. I think it could be in

49:07

jeopardy, yeah. I think it could be when you see Chelsea

49:09

football club in the bottom half of the league table.

49:11

That's crazy. But what

49:13

I would say, and my opinion on it

49:15

is, that this isn't yet all on the

49:17

manager. And I'm

49:19

so sorry if I go over the whole ground a little

49:22

bit, but the same thing stands

49:24

out for me, Rob. When these

49:26

young players came in, I said to you

49:28

on this show many times, we don't know

49:30

if these young guys are at a Premier

49:33

League level. And I think we have seen

49:35

that. Now, is that Positino's fault, Rob? Is

49:38

that Positino's fault that all those were brought in,

49:40

a lot of experienced players were gone and like,

49:42

here you go, Poch, you're good with young players,

49:44

you're experienced with top level sides, and yeah, yeah,

49:46

yeah, yeah, yeah. Go and make us win.

49:49

And he can't do it. And I just don't think...

49:51

Well, on a regular basis, they've had some

49:53

good days, Rob, when we've still said that.

49:56

There's been flashes of good stuff. But

49:59

I just don't... put it all on him, Rob.

50:01

And I know the Chelsea fans are these letters

50:03

from the supporters, one group of supporters saying this

50:05

is unacceptable, we're going to cheer and boo and

50:07

you're going to get more protests from us than

50:10

the other side. And I don't know the names

50:12

of these different supporter groups

50:14

and fan, like whatever it is.

50:17

And then they say, well, no, hang on a minute, we've got to

50:19

get behind them. So there's an

50:21

expectation at Chelsea, Rob, and they have come to

50:23

win a lot over with the Ramovich's period of

50:25

time and the money spent and the managers and

50:27

you ain't doing it. Boom, you're out. We got

50:30

a next guy in next guy, next guy, next

50:32

guy until they find ways to win trophies. Maybe

50:34

that's the culture and maybe the fans are like,

50:36

you know what's enough now? We used to see

50:38

in different people and let's go for somebody else.

50:40

That might happen. I hope

50:42

it doesn't because I think he's a

50:45

good manager. He's just got a difficult

50:47

job with so many players trying to

50:49

be effective in a difficult club,

50:52

in a difficult league with

50:54

so many others in the same situation, Rob. So again,

50:57

I ain't got a lot much new to say.

50:59

I didn't see the game. There's one, I think it was in

51:01

the window of all the games going at the same time, so

51:03

I couldn't study this one. But there's

51:05

no doubt, like Burnley at home with a man sent

51:07

off. I think it was the end of the first

51:10

half towards the end of the first half and not

51:12

winning the game. And I know

51:14

Petrovic threw it in, went through his hands. I saw

51:16

that obviously. It's a really tough game. I think J-Bob

51:18

really does. Had a late goal make. He headed against

51:20

the bottom, come back and could have gone and won

51:23

a hit-and-treat. What do

51:25

you think, Rob? That's my take on it.

51:27

If Pots gets his first off of the

51:29

season, mate, Pots's team will be there. It's

51:31

got them next season. And I think we

51:33

only get to somewhere around Christmas in the

51:35

window and there'll be a review of where

51:37

this team are, how they've developed,

51:40

is it more consistency? And if not,

51:42

then I think we might start to see some

51:44

change. Let me just add one point to that,

51:46

Rob, right? Just think about that, right? Yeah. Yeah.

51:49

Likely, we get some more time, but

51:52

they've spent the money. Chelsea's spent the

51:54

money. And with financial

51:56

restrictions now, Rob, how are they going to

51:58

fix this problem if they can't spend

52:00

anymore and might have to sell because the financial

52:02

fair play. How does it change if no

52:04

one says that? If you're saying that it's the players, then you're

52:06

not sure of the players. How does changing the

52:09

manager make that better? It doesn't. So

52:12

that issue. But what I'm saying is, I think

52:14

my thought was a few months ago before the

52:16

Everton points deduction was like they

52:18

bought a bunch of players that some will work

52:20

out and there'll be spots in the team where

52:22

they need to add. Maybe a centre forward it

52:24

might be and maybe another winger because Mujic and

52:27

others. But they haven't got the money

52:29

to do that now. So are they stuck with

52:31

this squad? Get people fit of course. But how

52:33

does it change if they can't spend? Well

52:35

the other thing is, some of the players

52:37

you thought you might be, you know, Tiago

52:39

Silver, Ryan Sterling and one or two others,

52:42

even Chilwell, I know he's coming back

52:44

from Fitnessville, they haven't played in the level

52:46

that you'd expect them to. So not even some

52:49

of the kids you bring in you don't know.

52:51

Some of the more experienced players this form has

52:53

dropped and so he's got nothing

52:55

to really hold on to there. Yeah

52:57

more difficult times at Chelsea, we'll see how that

52:59

one all plays out between now and the end

53:01

of the season if Pochettino is in charge from

53:03

next summer, how they start next year.

53:06

OK let's get to those other results. It was a

53:08

bit of a mid-length derby, Villa, Wolves was a late

53:10

game, Villa ended up winning this one 2-0, Wolves had

53:13

a couple of good looks early but it was Derby

53:15

and Kaunce with a cross-come shot that ends up in

53:17

the back net. Villa hitting

53:19

a bit of form again, Villa up, that

53:21

home form particularly is strong

53:23

again. The new Niamhuz team looking

53:26

like the possibility of a Champions League spot

53:28

now which would be an incredible turnaround for

53:31

the football club. Yeah I watched the game

53:33

Rob but it was a

53:35

good performance, outstanding, I think Wolves are

53:37

kind of running out of steam a

53:39

little bit, remarkable. Yeah there are a

53:41

lot of players missing. A lot of

53:44

the front lines different. He said the

53:46

12 senior players fit going into this

53:48

game so no surprise that

53:51

Aston Villa won the game 2-0. Just moving

53:53

on to the next one, what a game as St

53:55

James is. Now I know that you've been busy Rob but

53:57

did you get to see any of this stuff? see

54:00

these penalties. I saw a short bit from pieces I

54:02

was kind of in and out of the press room

54:04

so I didn't get a great view I saw you

54:06

know most of what was happening I think

54:09

when I got to it at one point West Ham

54:11

was 3-1 up. Okay so that's a

54:13

good place to ask you about the next piece

54:16

the West Ham United 3-1 up and

54:18

then in the West Ham penalty

54:20

box we have a

54:22

penalty in fact no the first goal was a

54:25

penalty the first one was a penalty with a

54:27

foul on Anthony Gordon where he gets his body

54:29

in front of the defender for the first one.

54:31

Yeah he got you in the corner club. Yeah

54:33

okay all right okay. I think that one yeah.

54:36

Then we get the second one McElvenn Phillips has the

54:38

football in front of his foot and

54:40

he pulls his foot back to kick the ball up the field Anthony

54:43

Gordon from behind him just puts his

54:45

foot across and down nowhere near the

54:48

ball he's facing away from

54:50

the ball Rob and as the

54:52

foot comes through he makes contact

54:54

and he basically manufactures a

54:56

foul. Anthony Gordon knew what he was doing

54:59

and he wanted that contact knowing that the

55:01

rest of he had had a decision today

55:03

and the referee absolutely bought it. Absolutely

55:05

bought it. But didn't he kick

55:08

his leg? As Calvin Phillips leg went back

55:10

Anthony Gordon's head was fake. Anywhere I can

55:13

get my foot across the line of the

55:15

ball we're gonna get something here. So where

55:17

are you Rob? Because it's not a penalty.

55:20

Yeah but by the letter of the law

55:22

he kicked him. Yeah

55:25

but by the letter of the

55:27

law Anthony Gordon is instigating

55:32

the kick. It's like when you

55:34

have a penalty in the box in two plays of

55:36

running and then one throws his leg into the back

55:38

of the other and he goes down and you say

55:40

these contacts yeah these contacts but these contacts have been

55:42

made because he's thrown his leg into it. So it's

55:45

a no-court. It's a no-court. It's

55:47

a play on. I mean if you're gonna

55:49

give that Rob, I was thinking about last

55:51

night, if you're gonna give that right then

55:53

if I'm playing the game now I'm

55:56

like seeing that I'm like oh any

55:58

time right. Anytime a

56:00

player goes back, but I'm literally, I'm

56:03

gonna go like that. I'm

56:05

like that. I'm like that. I'm

56:08

gonna dive in front of the ball

56:10

so he kicks me in the back or my heart, arm. I

56:13

ain't gotta go for the ball. I just gotta get

56:15

in the way of his, it just can't be right.

56:17

It's just not right. And he's kicking up. Yeah, and

56:19

he's kicking up. Oh, here we go. So I'm going

56:21

in. And he changes the

56:23

game, doesn't he? It absolutely changes the game. The game

56:25

changes the ball, we can't go on and listen. West

56:30

Ham have got to control games

56:32

better from that position and incredible atmosphere,

56:34

great couple of goals and great story.

56:37

But when he comes down to it,

56:39

a poor decision by the referee who... It's

56:43

got to be done really by Anthony Gordon.

56:46

Yeah, there's VAR there, right? You know, I don't get

56:48

it. They looked at it. I just,

56:50

that, and I know we've got to be careful

56:52

with common sense. This is one of

56:54

those really difficult ones where if you were the win

57:19

for West Ham, obviously, you used this point

57:21

for David Moyes. Talby and Felix, we saw,

57:23

has reacted to a fan who's

57:26

had some work with him after the game. I

57:28

mean, just what a terrible time it's been for him.

57:31

The move from Lee to City, goes

57:33

on loan. He's made a

57:35

couple of mistakes now, goals have been conceded

57:37

in. You know, almost feels like

57:40

he needs a fresh start somewhere up to

57:42

get kick-start his career back again. Yeah,

57:44

absolutely right. And on the score is

57:46

one, Crystal Palace, one, just go at

57:48

that one, Crystal Palace go ahead through

57:51

Mikach and then Chris Wood. It's

57:53

been good for goals, recently Rob Lovely balling

57:55

from Gibbs. While I'm a really clever header

57:58

from him, decent point for Moyes. disappointment

58:00

with what's going on would be

58:02

a point to deduction from their

58:05

point of view but an important point that might

58:07

be worth something coming at the end of the

58:09

season. Yeah and they've got a massive game on,

58:11

I've watched this game and my note

58:13

here is, follow them at home on Tuesday Rob,

58:15

for Not on a Forest, follow them at home

58:17

on Tuesday. You know, Palace at home is a

58:20

winnable game, couldn't manage it, couldn't

58:22

manage it, pressure is building at that club,

58:24

another chance to get three points to really

58:26

help their cause right now, 17th

58:29

they are not in Forest on Tuesday so

58:31

that's another big game and I think Palace

58:33

have picked up, you know, they're very different under

58:35

all the grass now. Yeah, they'll be fine with

58:37

it. They'll be fine, they've got enough points, they've

58:39

got some early results early under the new manager

58:41

and they're in decent position, 30

58:44

points. What else we got? We have

58:46

got Bournemouth 2,

58:48

Everton 1. Yeah, I

58:51

didn't see this game mate, I just saw the

58:53

headline and all of a sudden I'm thinking like,

58:56

in Sean Dyche we trust, come on Sean.

59:00

I mean, can't get a decent score, I

59:02

mean it always seems that Sean Dyche is

59:04

on the edge all the time for even

59:06

his time at Burnley, you know,

59:08

they get the points deduction, they have a brilliant little

59:11

run of results, so three wins in like the next

59:13

four or five games, they get right away from it

59:15

and then from then on them, one for like ages

59:17

and they're right, I mean

59:20

they could face another couple of points possibly,

59:22

the appeal situation is messy

59:24

but they just can't win, I mean the

59:26

Seamus Coleman own goal is,

59:28

and he's a legend of the club, it's just

59:30

a bad individual piece of play, he's just trying

59:33

to kind of, one of those little chested back

59:35

to the goalkeeper, it

59:37

comes off quickly and into the corner and they

59:39

lose the game, I mean Everton, I don't know,

59:43

I Don't know how it's been taught just being an

59:45

Everton fan, but it just don't end. when's it going

59:47

to end for them? They've got more points potentially. I

59:49

Know, they found last year wasn't it, it was last

59:51

game of the season, we were there, the game's former

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and the court race scores and the play was there

59:56

and it was a bit like everybody was there saying

59:58

that's it, not again. The ugly

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Man City and but I'm not right

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we going to be going now into

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a fan fest next weekend of course

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but midweek six years we're back on

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the in the studio. Midweek on but

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Liverpool sit on top. two points to

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from Arsenal, three points Kurtzman City and

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chef is United Bernie Luton or in

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the current bottom three situated in in

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spots in the league. So another. Fun

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weekend my friend! Yeah.

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On just mentioned about the not Phantasm on

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initial comment on next weekend so they decided

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that we have a concept saw the as

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usual full set against on a Sunday much

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be a the weekends games in of semen

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and week games to com as well. So

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busy looking forward to that said to seen

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masculine taking the show on the road and

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book furthest it my test was built as

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with nine games to play. We'll be back

1:02:02

next Sunday April 8th, we'll do some kind

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of addition in Nashville with maybe some of

1:02:06

the live fans around us, but

1:02:09

we'll try and get that done before

1:02:11

we wrap things up in in Nashville at the

1:02:13

Fanfares. But for now I'm Earl Heeves, must be

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