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We're busy. But. Isn't been
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busy a problem. You. Know it's
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one thing to acknowledge that you're busy, but
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it's another to do something about it. Most
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of us know that we're doing too much. But.
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If we don't take the time
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to pruner responsibilities and are calendars
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will forever be seeking success without
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ever being able to enjoy it's
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this is the Five a a
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Miracle episode number for sixteen. What
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it takes to get unstuck and
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achieve the extraordinary with Tonya Dalton
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Good morning I am Jeff Sanders
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and this is the podcast dedicated
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to debate in your day before
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breakfast my gas today! As a
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best selling author, speaker and nationally
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recognized productivity experts, her second book
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is on purpose, the busy Woman's
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guide to an extraordinary life of
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meaning and success. In addition to
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having her first book the Joy
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of Missing Out be name one
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of the top. Ten Business Books
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of the Year by Fortune Magazine.
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her podcast The Intentional Advantage as
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received millions of downloads from listeners
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around the world. She
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is also the founder and Ceo
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of Equal Press Productivity Company, a
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multi million dollar company protein tools
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that work as a catalyst in
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helping women do less while achieving
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maximum success. And now here is
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my interview with tiny adult and.
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I'm so excited to be arrogant, have a lot of fun!
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The F A lot of bond you are
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on this podcast last about two years ago
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so a lot is changing the world. Last
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couple of years I would like to hear
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your experience with what you been up to
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since then are what challenges you face because
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obviously we've all had our own kind of
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slew of have difficulties. But what's what was
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your experience like these last few years? Yeah.
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There's been Wouldn't you think that are
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happened in the past two years? There
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have down and Ceo right? Ah yes.
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Why provide came on here. You're talking about
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my last book and that was not sober
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as he jumps of twenty nineteen and you
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know I was asked by Harper Collins to
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write a second book and I sat down
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in February of twenty twenty and I math
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the whole thing else like I was like
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yes I can totally do this. They ask
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me to write a book on goal setting.
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I was like oh I could talk about
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will set it all day long so that's
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fabulous. Made a whole outline, knocked it all
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out. I had dislike amazing a plan that
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I laid out for myself of how. Is
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gonna write each month and how much else going
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to get done so it wouldn't be any stress.
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And. It march happens. I
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basically all plans just like went out the
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window. Because. All the sudden
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I found myself home schooling my kids.
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In the time have we last talked at
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my son graduated high school and has headed
2:50
off to college to be at all that
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happening during the pandemic, figuring out how to
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shift my business. Filing. For things
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like ppp getting my team on board
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the lines of how we're making the
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chef so lots of things happening. And
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the book that place called.
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For a while, just it's impossible
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to even write or think about
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the future. And I
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see. What's really amazing is that is
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a lot of times we'd be ourselves
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up for procrastinating for not following through
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on the play, and exactly as we've
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mapped out. In for me,
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it was really an amazing
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experience because. While. He had
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that space of not writing and
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just paying attention to how I
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was feeling and prophesying the pandemic
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watching other people processes. And
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begin to realize that this book was going
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to evolve and change into something very different
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than what I originally had planned. I.
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Began to realize it wasn't a book
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about goal setting. That, yes, goal setting
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is in it. But. Goals are
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not the goal. And
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I think we spend a lot of our time
3:54
chasing after a goal and then we don't have
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that sense of satisfaction. or we don't follow through
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with it because it's not. Our goal, And
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I think that's what's been really kind
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of the silver lining in all of
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this pandemic of heaven. Is.
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It's really allowed. So many of us, including
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need to really take that step back and
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say wait a minute. What? Am I doing
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here? Why? Am I doing this? Is
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This what I want to do? And.
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I know for me that's allow for a lot
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of rose and that's really. How the
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Book on Purpose ended up evolving,
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it really began to unfold very
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organically. As the world was
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unfolding in Oregon league itself doing
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all those things, the both began
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to really take me and places
4:35
I didn't quite expect. So.
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There is full said he get it but
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it's about the much bigger picture. It's about
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living more to your purpose than anything else.
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That I think that we are. We all kind
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of react the little bit differently but all had
4:49
this on the same kind of neutral and of
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yes we need to see who were doing if
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evolve in a new way. I thought I had
4:56
similar responses on glad the your book evolved one
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with X. I feel like we all kind of
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needed to to shift gears a lot of ways.
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So what most within your new book now which
5:05
is called on purpose Be busy woman's guy to
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extraordinary life of mean success. And
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I think that wasn't school with this topic
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right now have a purpose, which is that
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a lot of us who in the world
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pro to be specially we like to do
5:18
things intentionally or do things that are preplanned
5:20
or proactive. But. What does it
5:22
mean to you to do something on
5:24
purpose? Like what is how does purpose
5:26
drive your decision making? I
5:28
liked this question because I think that
5:30
word purpose can feel really heavy. It's
5:32
really waited for a lot of people
5:34
and sometimes they'll want to shy away
5:36
from it because they feel like it's
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something that define them now and forever.
5:41
So it's it's big thing that so
5:43
daunting an overwhelming. So. When
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I thought about purpose, especially in the
5:47
book, it's really about living bigger than
5:49
today. It's looking out on the
5:51
horizon and seen a future for yourself.
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Connecting what we want in that future.
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this big beautiful vision of what we
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want our lives to look like. In
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the future Connecting that you are
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actions and our choices as today
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because what we do today accept
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future and if we're doing work
6:09
on a regular basis. That.
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Gets us closer to this beautiful vision
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that we have for ourselves. That's.
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How we have more satisfaction mess. That's
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how we feel successful. He. Was
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really paying attention during the pandemic. How
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feel all these people are chasing busy
6:24
and their still checking of a thousand
6:26
things off their to do less and
6:28
running around here and there and everywhere.
6:31
And. Falling into bed at night, exhausted,
6:33
overwhelmed, and then saying to themselves, ah,
6:35
I should have gotten more done. Why?
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I get more done even though they were
6:40
busy all day long. And. They're doing
6:42
that in the pursuit of productivity. And
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I see what it is is really
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when we try our actions to something
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bigger than today. When. We tie
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it to being on purpose. That's when
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we go to bed at night or
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head is the pillow and we say
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he was amazing. I wasn't it a
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great I am amazing. That's. Only
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really start to see. That shift and
7:04
change in our lives matter I think
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is so powerful about living on purpose.
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Yeah. I really like. This message is one
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I think that I know I've experienced in
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the past where they went to that point
7:15
about having a thousand things in your to
7:18
do lessons. Just feel tired afterwards, you don't
7:20
feel accomplished. I know I've had many of
7:22
those days and I feel like there's one
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aspect that I have played in over the
7:26
years as having a more simplistic schedule. I
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think that even to that degree then when
7:31
you simplify those things with the need to
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be meaningful to you and like your point,
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if those you are things you're doing drive
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your bigger vision for yourself then. That's gonna
7:39
lead said the Satisfaction. So you're going for
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an ideal for the A. For years down
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the show talked about the morning routine, waking
7:46
up early to do something valuable. And.
7:49
One part of that they don't time, but
7:51
often enough is that those activities in the
7:53
morning could be tied to a bigger vision.
7:55
Like tied to your purpose at a dell.
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Absolutely, You have a daily habits like that.
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You're saying in order to for my purpose
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to come to life I'd needs a wake
8:04
up at a do this thing that specifically
8:06
chosen action that tied to that greater vision.
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Oh yeah, I do. You definitely And I think
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that's the thing is it really is about that.
8:13
Intentionality rate is it's and we get caught up
8:16
in a big lead. The licenses, the small things.
8:18
It's a small things in our routine that we're
8:20
doing on a regular basis that. Eventually
8:22
Leon even think twice about because it's
8:24
just a habit we've created for ourselves
8:26
at I know for me one of
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the big thing that I have started
8:31
doing that has made a huge difference
8:33
is meditation. Really making time for
8:35
meditation. So I get up in the morning.
8:37
I start with my fifteen ounces of water
8:39
because I used to think I wasn't a
8:41
morning person. That was. I was a limiting
8:43
believe that I have for a long time
8:45
that I was not a morning person. I
8:47
couldn't get up early. And. It was
8:50
really because I was dehydrated. So now I
8:52
do my sixteen ounces of water and then
8:54
I brush my teeth and then I go
8:56
straight out. And I do and education. And
8:58
I start every day. With. doing some
9:00
quiet reflection time, And. That
9:02
for me, helps me really censor myself
9:04
until rooted and ready for my game.
9:07
I think that is. Definitely
9:09
tied. She's me feeling. Calmer,
9:12
more relaxed and more focused on what it
9:14
is a in the future is having that
9:16
that space to be able to to really
9:18
look at that and how I want my
9:21
data unfold. How
9:23
is that works Views I'd for a long time
9:25
I have tried desperately to and that it's a
9:27
more often out and in this failed miserably such
9:29
as yourself like I said to bring i guess
9:31
on the show to try to be going if
9:34
you're that are experts in this and somehow as
9:36
connected so I'm always curious for you at what
9:38
what is it about meditation This allowed you to
9:40
say like this is a habit of work for
9:42
me. Well. I was on
9:45
his people for a long time. He said I couldn't
9:47
meditate. That was my things. I definitely
9:49
sad for a long long time because
9:51
my brain is always on so I
9:53
thought there's no way I can measure
9:55
the whole idea of having zero thought
9:57
His first of all, Crazy. So for
9:59
me. He he was first are recognizing
10:01
and realizing that meditation is not zero
10:03
thoughts, it's accepting the thoughts of my
10:05
com and just releasing them. So that
10:07
gave me a little bit of a
10:09
green light. like okay it's okay that
10:12
my mind is is still thinking but
10:14
what I started with was literally just
10:16
two minutes. Two minutes of meditation And
10:18
when I was doing that two minutes
10:20
of meditation I was focusing in on
10:22
my breathing so I would you breathing
10:24
techniques. For. Example I will picture
10:26
of a square. Okay so
10:28
like this where you go up and then
10:30
over and then down and across right so
10:32
as are going up I would justify in
10:35
a square and breathe in and inhale and
10:37
then I withhold as I went across for
10:39
channel five of the square and then down
10:41
the square for account of five as I
10:43
exhaled and in holding that axial as I
10:45
went across. For. Account of Five and
10:47
then back around that square. So picturing
10:50
the square. Counting. The
10:52
breath for me. Was. How
10:54
I got started and I would Sometimes you
10:56
like I'll do a triangle or I'll do
10:58
a circle. sometimes I'm just a kind of
11:00
and out that. that's how I started. Because.
11:03
It wasn't about sitting on a mountaintop
11:05
in a yoga pose. a. At.
11:07
About quiet and everything in my mind
11:10
was really about focusing in and becoming
11:12
intentional. First of all, with my breathing.
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shower. He. Can meditate while you're
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11:40
your mind set on what meditation
11:43
looks like. I see said if
11:45
you meditate. And you feel like you've
11:47
got it wrong. That's not the
11:49
point, right? There is no doing it wrong
11:51
when it comes to medication. So.
11:53
Letting go of any expectations as a million
11:55
ways you can that say. But for me,
11:57
that's how I started with that breathing checking.
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We're back to this idea of purpose and
16:05
one I think that's when I think about
16:07
been purposeful and a one thing that stands
16:09
in my way often times is just what
16:11
I'll call the business of life and just
16:13
a combat idea of a longer to do
16:16
list. I feel as though if for me
16:18
if I'm wanting to achieve more purpose I
16:20
have to have a lot more clarity on
16:22
what I'm doing every day. How do you
16:24
go about Mapi Now for some on the
16:27
what what is purpose look lights. For someone
16:29
who's saying I want to be purposeful A
16:31
county you begin up rock. Process for someone
16:33
to to map that out for them to say?
16:35
Well, here's how you can begin the process. Yes,
16:38
and he does. The great question Because honestly
16:40
when I started researching and thinking I was
16:43
writing a goal setting but I began to
16:45
notice that when people talk about goals I
16:47
didn't They don't talk about how you figure
16:49
out what your goals are or how you
16:51
were happy with your actions are and see
16:53
what happens is. I think a lot of
16:55
times people set the wrong goals minimum right.
16:57
We look last, we look right. We train
16:59
our next over the fence to see what
17:02
the grass is looking like on the other
17:04
side and we got loose. Doing
17:06
over there. I need to be doing that
17:08
or this person doing amazing. I should be
17:10
doing what they're doing And so we set
17:12
our goals. They saw what everybody else is
17:14
doing. faith so it's what. What goals do
17:17
we want to set? What goals are going
17:19
to be Some to us. So.
17:21
This is where this idea that I talk
17:23
about in the book comes into play. This
17:25
idea as Cathedral thinking. So.
17:27
I recall to see. You're thinking
17:29
because it's kind of based on
17:31
that idea as in the eleven
17:34
hundred, the twelve hundred that the
17:36
city architects, the builders, the artisans,
17:38
they would build these amazing beautiful
17:40
cathedral like the Duomo in Florence
17:42
or Notre Dame. And these
17:44
buildings were designed to last a lifetime.
17:47
Right? More Than a lifetime. Thousands of
17:49
years. With a choke hundreds of
17:51
years to build, they were so much
17:53
bigger. Than just that artisans lifetime,
17:55
they were building a legacy. So.
17:58
We all have cathedral in our. What
18:00
are the things that we want to do
18:02
that create legacy for us that that is
18:04
off into the future? So I call that
18:06
your cathedral and that's really what we're working
18:09
towards. His his big beautiful cathedral off in
18:11
the distance. That's our vision of where we
18:13
want to go and in the book. Why
18:15
do as I draw a line? It's almost
18:17
like are a little map and one side
18:20
says you are here and the other side
18:22
is your cathedral right? That's your potential.
18:24
Like you could potentially accomplish in let's
18:26
say, ten years or twenty years down
18:29
the road. So what we wanna do
18:31
if we want to back it up?
18:33
Pretty far away And twenty years, right?
18:36
So it's not or potential. What's.
18:38
Possible. What's possible in three to five
18:40
years threats to accomplish something that we
18:42
could do with three to five years
18:44
that gets us closer that cathedral that
18:47
becomes a landmark force to work towards
18:49
the that's still pretty far away. So
18:51
if we now know what our potential as and
18:54
we back to that to what's possible. What's.
18:56
Practical. What can we practically do
18:58
in like twelve to eighteen months?
19:01
That. Creates another landmark for a closer landmark
19:03
to where we are now. And.
19:05
If West was practical, and twelve eighteen months,
19:07
where do I need to prioritize to get
19:10
to that landmark when we need to do
19:12
in the next three months? the next six
19:14
months, the next nine months to get me
19:16
to that practical landmark? Those.
19:18
Priorities. Those. Are your
19:21
goals? Those are the goals that are going to
19:23
get you to that big, beautiful cathedral. So
19:25
that as you accomplish. Each one
19:28
of those goals, You know that whatever
19:30
you've done, you've gotten a step closer
19:32
to where it is. You want to
19:34
go. right? it. Each time you finish,
19:36
a goal is completed. He had that
19:38
feeling of winning, feels amazing, and it
19:40
continues. And it stretches because it's tied
19:42
to something bigger. so it's really looking
19:44
off into the future, that cathedral. And
19:46
then it's as simple as is, backing
19:48
it up and creating your own little
19:50
road map for where does you want
19:52
to go. That's really how we figure
19:54
out. What? Activities What you
19:56
know things went past we want
19:59
to accomplish. That are really high to
20:01
that digger purpose. Yeah.
20:03
I realize this concept of having the other
20:05
that smaller daily action tied to Disney a
20:07
glorious legacy down the road of I know
20:09
for me personally I have a really hard
20:11
time I guess choosing the Cathedral. Go.
20:14
I have a lot of ideas, a lot
20:16
of potential visions for who I could become
20:18
an abuser. How do you nero that that
20:20
process down? How do you say like snowball
20:22
the cathedral I could build? How do I
20:24
choose this one ago? Is there a process
20:26
to filter or what's best for someone and
20:28
as third season of Life Or a way
20:30
to nearly down. Yeah, why didn't
20:32
the first thing to do is the first
20:35
acknowledge that you cathedral may not be a
20:37
cathedral down the road like you To teach.
20:39
You can change my view. evolve and change
20:41
and shift and grow. Yeah, the same person
20:44
you are by ten years ago. Yeah, same
20:46
person you are maybe five ten months ago,
20:48
right? So it's possible for that to change.
20:50
it's just not working to get closer to
20:53
that idea. And I declare the things that
20:55
people tend to hide behind. and
20:57
uses an excuse is that they are multikine
20:59
net Why yes I too many cathedral I
21:01
am all these things i wanna do. And.
21:04
The truth is I'm like that that's
21:06
kind of a myth. Everybody is not
21:08
a passionate. The weirdest that defining ourselves
21:10
as not a passionate because literally if
21:12
you were to since the world far
21:14
and wide every corner of this earth
21:16
you would not find one person who
21:19
says one thing. just one. I only
21:21
one thing. We
21:23
all have multiple things. So.
21:25
It's really a choice of what it is
21:27
he wants to prioritize. There's lots of things
21:29
you love. There's lots of things I love.
21:31
But. We need to choose to focus in on a
21:34
couple of them. One, two, maybe
21:36
three different cathedrals, right? You may have
21:38
a Cathedral, your personal lives and a
21:40
cathedral and York's in your career or
21:42
your workplace and but really understanding which
21:44
one of those you want to focus
21:46
in the mess. And there's actually an
21:48
activity that we walk through in the
21:50
but. Where. We figure out
21:53
what are you truly passionate about? I
21:55
call it grabbing a piece of the
21:57
pie because we looked at. How
21:59
you. How does this thing that you're passionate
22:01
about? how it fits in with your powers
22:03
as your p. How. Much makes
22:05
an impact in your life and in the
22:07
lives of others. And then the he is
22:09
excitement How much excitement you really have for
22:11
this. There's a lot of things that were
22:13
really good at that we can do that
22:15
we don't really love. So we give the
22:17
score and we add a map and there's
22:19
a whole exercise me walk through. Because.
22:22
Truly everybody loves lots of things. I
22:24
love productivity and that's what I focused
22:26
my career on. but I also love
22:28
working with power tools. I love building
22:30
thing by lox, doing home renovations and
22:32
a cool or I love I love
22:34
reading to. There's lots of things that
22:36
I love outside of productivity and I
22:38
still make time for them. But. I
22:40
get the lion's share of my time to
22:42
one or two things because that's how we
22:44
move the needle. That's how we make a
22:46
difference. Of. This is
22:49
this is totally off topic way to said by
22:51
where I feel of just but inside your power
22:53
tools. And. Where I have found
22:55
to be route weirdly true of the people
22:57
who like productivity like the two of us
22:59
also build things like woodworking. Oh.
23:01
Really I have an interest that is
23:04
I got is my side thing I
23:06
do besides productivity by buildings, my garage
23:08
and. I so I built a new
23:10
piece of furniture every year for my birthday. That's
23:12
like one of the things that I love you
23:14
And yet so I intentionally set aside a whole
23:17
we can to just build for my week for
23:19
my birthday. So so funny. Must be something. I
23:21
don't know what it in as about the planning
23:23
as as yes as it has risen accomplishing eggs
23:25
are going on about like a mini golf yes
23:27
would totally as i think that the mapping out
23:29
what it is another building how to do it
23:31
is this is more of the that the same
23:33
the armory doing just like not on the computer
23:35
if it's like using my has. Ah,
23:38
Anyway, that's interested in another do with
23:40
your book about disinterested I suffer. From
23:42
that perspective back this idea of of
23:44
the the pie. I really
23:46
like this idea. Be able to narrow down what
23:49
it is we care about by making the decision.
23:51
Of. I like the you call my said an
23:53
excuse had the that's very true that be multi passionate
23:55
as as every one. Of as in
23:57
making a decision. Oftentimes most people myself included,
24:00
that's the hardest part is sane. Of all
24:02
the things I could say, yes you are
24:04
only as a yes to one thing and
24:06
then when that happens, well that's when focus
24:08
shows up right? That and you're able to
24:11
actually dig into something more deeply. So it
24:13
is that the process then like once we've
24:15
come home to the and and said we're
24:17
going this direction now Studio Son of A
24:19
align your life to have everything. Go there.
24:22
I would say every thanks I'm not
24:25
at all or nothing that kind of
24:27
percent right. Like you have other aspects,
24:29
you have other roles the plane your
24:31
life but the majority of your time
24:33
efforts, your energy your focus should go
24:35
towards whatever it is that cathedral looks
24:38
like because. Honestly, if that's
24:40
your cathedral, it's something you're excited
24:42
about. Something that you want, something
24:44
you desire. And so when we
24:46
focus our time and our energy
24:49
and activities, On that see, it gets
24:51
us closer. We're going to feel more.
24:53
Fulfillment, more satisfaction, more more successful
24:55
in and that's ultimately what we're
24:58
looking for. Owe it all Changes.
25:00
To think of any goal, any
25:02
dream, any escalation, And
25:05
I would guarantee that they are steeped
25:07
in happiness and some sort. I think
25:09
we think of happiness as the soft
25:11
thing that's like frivolous that extra. Every
25:14
goal even think every dream is teaching happiness.
25:16
Ninety one of the city to be happier
25:18
in your pants, right leg and a marathon
25:21
to be happy as you cross the finish
25:23
line. Why want to start your own business?
25:25
He can be happy as your own boss.
25:28
So. It's time to really focus
25:30
air and create a little face of the
25:33
table for happiness. because that's what might as
25:35
well as about. It's not the the struggle
25:37
and the scramble and that scrambling for thing
25:39
with met before seeing it's. Finding.
25:41
The joy and happiness and are
25:43
every days and that happens when
25:45
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25:59
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29:31
there are a lot of seasons of my life
29:33
where know things are moving along fine and then
29:35
at some point a real i wake up in
29:37
Maine realized I don't like where I am. I'm
29:39
not sure how had seen just like how do
29:42
we get ourselves into these to the up with
29:44
his first of all but really how do we
29:46
get out of them are to move forward. Yeah.
29:49
Well I think what happens is personal.
29:51
Our brain loves Patterns Ray Our brain.
29:53
laws, patents and patterns are really important
29:55
for our brain because patterns or what
29:57
held our brain which which that much.
30:00
If we didn't love patterns, we will
30:02
be constantly surprised by everything. Play by
30:04
the water coming out the spigot of
30:06
the shower buckets by the way, the
30:08
sudden filter through the flats of the
30:10
blinds so. Understanding that we love
30:12
patterns and as a. Good thing is
30:14
cool. But we also need
30:16
to disrupt the patterns because what happens is
30:18
our brain doesn't the autopilot and it makes
30:20
choices for as every single day it chooses
30:22
to make our heart be and mix our
30:25
eyes blink that's all those polls are hand
30:27
away from the fire If we catch it
30:29
we'll have to make those choices are brain
30:31
take silver without as even recognizing and are
30:33
realizing it. And. That's what happens to
30:35
when we had these patterns of thinking of.
30:37
This is just the way things are. or
30:39
I guess I'm not very good at Whatever
30:42
it is I think I'm not very good
30:44
at or I'm just stuck. Weeks we create
30:46
this, like grew this right for ourselves. Where
30:48
it's like this pattern and we need to
30:51
choose to disrupt the pattern. And
30:53
we can make that choice. When. We step
30:55
away from it and we recognize what
30:57
is the thinking that's going through my
30:59
brain. What is what's the thought pattern
31:01
that's repeating itself. And when we understand
31:03
that, We. Can really and. We.
31:08
Think maybe opposite of stuff is
31:10
way it is. This a magical
31:12
moments. Rainbows are shooting out the
31:14
sky. What we are. And
31:17
stuff and that's not true. The.
31:19
Opposite of stuff is option.
31:22
Taking. Action: Choosing to move
31:24
forward, Choosing to take a seat, Choosing
31:26
a tiny small itty bitty stuff. That.
31:29
Is the opposite of south and that's
31:31
how we get ourselves answer. So when
31:33
it comes to be thought patterns that
31:36
are on repeat and our brain. What
31:38
we need to do is we need to stop. And
31:41
choose to take action to counteract
31:43
it to understand where it comes
31:45
from. And. And I walk
31:47
through in the book a series of
31:49
questions Was really a few is one
31:51
question that we can ask yourself called
31:54
the fifth Why to dive into why
31:56
these thoughts are there. And am
31:58
I I love about this? Why is it
32:00
includes? how like an education that we just
32:02
talked about. It's so simple and easy to
32:05
do. You can literally do it anywhere. You.
32:07
Think about with that thought It So when
32:09
you recognize and feeling kind of ah like
32:11
emotionally you know the feeling or been set
32:14
up in your body and you're having tension,
32:16
headaches or you're getting a stomachache are you
32:18
have? You have areas of your body or
32:20
stress of that are you find yourself in
32:22
the pantry stress eating again. Instead. Of
32:24
beating yourself up Said okay, what's the thought pattern?
32:26
What's what's going through my head right now. Are
32:29
right, we have that knowledge. take some action, Why?
32:32
Do I think. That. First,
32:34
why is gonna be so shallow? Was like
32:36
a baby pool? Say it's just like the
32:38
first. The answer and it's an easy answer.
32:40
So what we're going to do is we're
32:42
going to ask why five times. We. As
32:44
the first line and then we take any of the from
32:46
the first line and we ask it again. Susan's.
32:49
The reasons. For. Same. Size.
32:51
As we keep asking want to get to
32:53
That will cause. So
32:56
for example, let's say. You're
32:58
thought pattern his arms. I'm a
33:01
failure. Rice. And you had this
33:03
thought that I'm always a failure. I'm a failure
33:05
again. Why are you a failure As a first
33:07
wife? While because I my boss did give you
33:09
promotion. Okay, Why?
33:11
Why didn't you basket you? Promotion. Well.
33:14
Because they didn't think I was my. Third,
33:17
why why don't we think you're ready? Was they
33:19
didn't think I was ready because I don't have
33:21
my advance certification. Okay, Let's ask
33:23
was the first time why don't you get you have
33:25
your advanced certification I don't want my the answer
33:27
to the case because I don't have time to work
33:30
on it. Okay, why don't you have time
33:32
to work on it? I don't have time to work on
33:34
it because the evening just seems to get away for me
33:36
and I don't have a really solid plan in place. And
33:38
I wake up in the morning and I feel like I'm
33:40
behind. Oh. Okay, it's
33:43
not you feeling like a failure is that
33:45
your evenings feel a little bit like a
33:47
mess. So now we have that root cause
33:50
we can pull it off. We can change
33:52
it, we can shift at we can do
33:54
some things we can choose one or even
33:56
to tiny actions to do in the evening
33:59
to counteract that. To. Create an
34:01
option going the opposite direction and
34:03
that's how we began to get
34:05
unstuck. I
34:07
really like this this or the series of questions
34:09
as is his hands like my three year old
34:11
daughter. Who like assignments you're asking why
34:13
over and over and my answers have to
34:16
get more creative with each generation and I
34:18
feel like bad process of displayed continually asking
34:20
that question the a confound monotonous are crazy
34:22
and first like I totally get we're going
34:25
this is it really does uncover the real
34:27
thing that's happened in the real reason why
34:29
we're stuck in some capacity as like as
34:31
if that's what we're doing our own as
34:34
is kind of questions every day or just
34:36
when we get to these moments with feel
34:38
like on some level we need to ask
34:40
why a lot more often than we are
34:43
at is this kind of that Go again
34:45
here to to understand how we think like
34:47
that's where we're headed. Oh without
34:49
question and I I think the truth is
34:52
when were three years old we ask why
34:54
a million times a day right? Why why
34:56
why why Why we go to school and
34:58
all the sun were no wonder rewarded for
35:00
asking questions. We are rewarded for answering the
35:03
words hot to start asking questions. So we
35:05
start focusing on answers and not the questions
35:07
and so we're losing our the had it
35:09
as adults. Now that we're adults were like
35:12
we don't ask questions, we just do this
35:14
because this is just the way it is
35:16
and that's a solid excuse Me are all
35:18
the time. This is just the way it is.
35:20
or this is how it's always been done. And
35:23
we have sought to ask this question is why.
35:25
And if we regularly stop and ask
35:28
why if we regularly stop and say
35:30
what is my thinking year we kick
35:32
or ownership over it and we can
35:34
start to really choose. Is. It's
35:37
funny to say, but a lot of
35:39
times we're not really choosing to choose
35:41
our brain is is taking over. Hillary
35:43
step outside of that and we take
35:45
time to reflect. Then. We can
35:47
question what's happening. Am I happy here?
35:49
Is this really what I want? Why
35:51
am I doing these things? All of
35:53
them? They're valid questions to ask ourselves
35:55
from time to time. But. Because
35:57
we have a lot going on, we don't stopped as
35:59
the. When it's not fair
36:01
of our routine, right? So for
36:03
me, I regularly stop at
36:06
least once a quarter for my business. I
36:08
do a full day of reflection of looking
36:10
back at how my business is then going.
36:12
Why are we doing these things? What do
36:14
we think? We wanted you and moving forwards?
36:16
What's that? What's the main focus here? Play
36:19
all those questions. Really powerful people tend to
36:21
do it somewhat at the end of the
36:23
year, but we should be doing or often
36:25
I think doing a little bit of reflection
36:27
at the end of each day. Is
36:30
an incredibly powerful experience. How.
36:32
Am doing justice to a quick check. And how do
36:34
I feel about my day that my too stressed out
36:36
did I put too much and I played. Why?
36:39
Did I feel like today was amazing? Let's you
36:41
more of that's. Why? I feel like
36:43
today was terrible all right now that I
36:45
know that let's not do that again and
36:47
do something else was to the opposite tomorrow.
36:50
If we stop and question. We
36:52
learned so much about ourselves. And.
36:54
Of questions are are easy to ask and
36:56
we literally can do them laying in bed.
36:59
Driving. And apart. And. He is
37:01
our. We. Can happen at all those times. Yards.
37:05
And on a weekly review for for years and
37:07
I've I've as similar questions like that. I feel
37:09
like that most people into your point of are
37:12
not asking those questions enough and if of when
37:14
we do is incredible. The answers that we get
37:16
because I for most of us we are more
37:18
aware of ourselves that we realize we just aren't
37:21
taking the time to acknowledge it and then to
37:23
act on it as like that for me has
37:25
always been the big deal that I ask the
37:27
questions but then after all that at the next
37:29
step is they will now have put on the
37:32
calendar and and do the thing that solves the
37:34
problem and it's. It's amazing when that happens
37:36
is that it's really transformative. Well.
37:38
And sometimes we don't want to ask the questions because
37:40
we don't want to you the answers semi monthly on
37:43
about his the lunch room He'd rather do than reflect
37:45
back on the things that we don't like. For the
37:47
things that didn't go our the failure of the trauma.
37:50
The to be honest with you, When.
37:52
We when we take the bandages off,
37:54
when we allow those things in our
37:56
lives. In having those things having sale,
37:58
you're having trauma have. You know,
38:00
things that have frustrated us in our past. Stumbling
38:02
blocks That doesn't make any one of us unique.
38:05
We all have them. But. When we bring
38:07
them to light and we keep the bandages off and
38:09
we allow them to get air. That's. When
38:11
they begin to heal. And truly
38:13
it's when we see. The things
38:15
that we don't like. That. We can
38:18
build a so much of we can build
38:20
so much more other what we don't like
38:22
or don't want or don't want to repeat
38:24
so much more than what we cannot. The
38:26
shiny trophies. We. Can push against regrets
38:29
and do the opposite because so often
38:31
were like what I don't even know
38:33
what I was. We. Know what
38:35
you do though, what you don't want. You know
38:37
what he don't like to start their. That's.
38:39
Regrets. Let's move that into resilience by doing
38:41
the opposite. Make a list of what the
38:44
opposite ends of what it is you don't
38:46
want. And you know in in
38:48
my life I can share example of how
38:50
I've done that. As because it
38:53
really was. It's a really powerful
38:55
experience. For for me
38:57
we. Had years ago. we had an
38:59
order of products can and so I have
39:01
a a big warehouse. Thousands of boxes are
39:04
there. And. I open up the
39:06
first class. Everything's damage something, second box,
39:08
Everything. damage that the o'clock Everything. sewage.
39:10
Hundred and fifty about every single products
39:12
was damaged. hundreds of thousands of hours
39:14
with a product in my warehouse damaged.
39:16
and of course at that moment I'm
39:18
like were sunk. What do we get
39:20
to do? I made the decision.
39:22
We are you gonna like tighten up our belts?
39:24
We're gonna, we're gonna work. Said to make it
39:26
happen because otherwise the business with gonna fail And
39:28
so I spent the next three months doing seven
39:31
days a week, twelve to fourteen hour days The
39:33
kids would get off the school bus, go straight
39:35
to the warehouse. We. Would order food and
39:37
he did on the floor of the warehouse. We would
39:39
go there on the weekends. I mean it was all
39:41
at the warehouse for months. And we got
39:43
to the into that, period, and I reflected back
39:45
how it I feel about it. And
39:48
I felt like the world's worst mom.
39:50
I mean without question world's worst mama.
39:52
My kids weren't doing anything fun at
39:54
know activities everything with focus on the
39:57
warehouse and I felt awful. Now.
39:59
i couldn't I feel awful on the world's
40:01
worst mom. I'm going to shove this under the bed and not
40:03
think about it. Or I could have just
40:05
said, well, I'm the world's worst mom. And that's just the way
40:07
it is. I guess that's just who I am then moving forward.
40:10
But instead I said, okay, you know what? I
40:12
don't want to be the world's worst mom. I hate
40:15
this feeling I have right now. How can I push
40:17
against this and do the opposite? So
40:19
I made the decision because of that season in my life
40:21
that I was going to leave work every day at 3
40:23
o'clock. I was going to work
40:25
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday till 3 and Fridays.
40:27
I wasn't going to work at all because
40:29
I was never going back to being the
40:32
world's worst mom. I made
40:34
that decision several years ago. I run
40:36
a seven-figure business. I still leave work
40:38
every day at 3 o'clock and I
40:40
don't work on Fridays. I
40:42
would have never thought that was possible if
40:45
I hadn't had a season of regret. If I hadn't
40:47
been pushed so out of fight, like,
40:50
and being unhappy with myself. If I hadn't been
40:52
pushed to, I want to do the exact opposite
40:54
of that. I would have never even attempted
40:56
it. And here I am, now
40:58
living years later, this has been a
41:01
driving force in my life that I
41:03
don't work the hours everybody else does,
41:05
but I make an amazing amount of
41:07
money. So really,
41:09
pushing against regret is where we can grow. It's
41:11
where we can really shift into who it is
41:13
we want to be. I
41:16
just had a guest on the podcast talking
41:18
about four-day work weeks. And he said, almost
41:20
a word for word, but you just said,
41:22
which is that this idea that when we
41:25
work less, prioritize, focus, clarify what we want
41:27
and don't want, that all of a
41:29
sudden everything is going to fit. Like, the messiness
41:31
of the calendar is not messy when there's those
41:33
boundaries in place. It really establishes, like, this
41:35
is what I'm doing, this is what I'm not
41:38
doing, and here's when and why. And when those
41:40
things are in place, it's like, all of a sudden, yeah, you don't
41:42
ask the question anymore. Like, am I
41:44
going to work a 14-hour workday? The answer is already no. It's not
41:46
an option. Yeah, I love that. And my why is, I
41:48
don't want to be the world's worst
41:50
mom. Because that's how I felt. I don't want to go back to
41:52
that feeling. That regret is so
41:55
powerful for me, and it is
41:57
for so many people to use regret for good. What?
42:01
Else about the Borg to be not covered Today the will
42:03
make sure we do cover. Oh
42:05
my gosh, there's lots of things in the buck rights.
42:08
Is this this? This is an hour see.
42:10
Where the big things that that holds people back
42:12
a lot of times it's fear. There's a whole
42:14
chapter on fear. I think the other thing is
42:16
as people saying they don't have the time to
42:18
do the things they want to do. I was
42:20
the same time saying that they're gonna do there's
42:22
been some day. So. There's is interesting
42:25
push and pull, so I really.
42:27
The. Whole book is about the power of
42:30
choice. It's soothing how you want to
42:32
live your life, choosing to create, the
42:34
time, choosing to invest in. you're choosing
42:36
to release your fears. And when we
42:38
understand that those choices are there when
42:41
we start soon as the tiny little
42:43
choices, choosing not to let fear run
42:45
over us for example, All. A
42:47
sudden. More. Door start appearing. More
42:50
opportunities for landing right in front
42:52
of us. Because. Once of choices
42:54
are there more choices? x appear and then
42:56
more and more. And that's really when we
42:58
take ownership over our lives. When we take
43:01
ownership over who we are and what we
43:03
want in this world. A
43:05
love it so well said this great of our
43:07
listeners to learn more from you and doesn't get
43:10
a copy of the books so where can they
43:12
got again. Yes, Of the
43:14
best place to find me is that funny
43:16
adults in.com. You. Can find links to
43:18
my podcast their the intentional advantage. You can
43:20
also find me to my books so have
43:22
the joy of missing out. That came out
43:24
of years ago and then this new book
43:27
on purpose the Busy Woman sky to an
43:29
extraordinary life of meaning and success. You. Can
43:31
find links to that to that on a
43:33
website at hundred often that can. The.
43:35
Books are also available anywhere. Books are
43:37
sold, Okay, Excellent!
43:39
This is wonderful And there's so much about.
43:42
Yellow. You just said making these choices and
43:44
and to get our to move it over
43:46
those that is so I free because it
43:48
enables array move forward a powerful way over
43:50
listeners can really pull from that and learn
43:52
from some your book and from your your
43:54
gear. Example years has been yards as a
43:56
great lesson Secular that. Thank. You
43:58
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44:10
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44:26
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44:29
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