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i was planning on
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not working this week so instead
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i recorded conversation with marty
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short couple weeks ago and
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a planned to run it with an
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introduction that i pre recorded
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mass or what you're going to hear in
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about the can fifty
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minutes and i will tell you
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is is is a fun one you
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know for a change ah
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oh i know how
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you say your shows are always so substances
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and and enriching the
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i've never found substance
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and enrichment fun then
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i know exactly what you're talking
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about well today finals
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my more
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because martin short is my guest
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will you learn anything valuable
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know martin has nothing
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the teach us actually that's not
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all true marty to me is the
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handsome an entertainer he he does
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it all you're singing you're dancing
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your impressions your characters
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there are you gonna have fun learn
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a lot fun and learn a lot
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you're only going the
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person's marty and i urge added
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or we've had to earth
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shaking events one very
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very bad the scotus the decision
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overturning roe as tragic decision
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and one that arrived in have a
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very disturbing ugly way and bodes
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very ill for the future of
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the cord and i wanna talk about that
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then the also cassie
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hutchinson the money
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as i have been saying all along
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the hearings have wildly
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exceeded my expectations and yet
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nothing has shocked me lisa
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which the catch against
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the wall i'm surprised they haven't painted
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that wall read the after he'd been there
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just a couple months but seizes
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christ this was bad
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for donald trump wow
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the magnetometers up why
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are you letting everyone is since they're
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heavily arms president will take
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the fucking mags away they're not here to
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hurt me the
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subjects beings they're not here to hurt me
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more on their here to kill pillow see
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an a o sea and if necessary might
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who by the way i never
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like anyway okay
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so much for ron johnson claiming the writers
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or and cheaper
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i love the giuliani stuff hutchinson
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testify that on january second giuliani
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was at the white house and as
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she walked him out to his car
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he said tas are you side
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is the sex it's
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going to be a great day we're we're
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going to the capital on january six gonna
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be raped the president's going
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to be there is gonna look powerful
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you know rudy corrupt drunk
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and stupid is no way to go through
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life the
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man rudy tells her talk so cheap about
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meaning of course mark meadows teeth staff
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well the goes use offers
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an ass about what doing
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any told her and memos replies
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there's a lot going on class no
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no things might get real real
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bad on january
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six yeah oh
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n n n hutchinson testify
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the giuliani was part of a gang with
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a john eastman and roger stone and others
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that had set up a war room the
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will or hotel now stone
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was in close contact that week with
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the oath keepers who scored his
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him and the proud boys both
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of which have been indicted by
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the justice department for seditious
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conspiracy by merrick garland
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justice department though they plaza
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case pretty nailed down i would i
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would suspect hutchinson
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testify that meadows would just die
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the get over to the willard war room
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all day on january fifth but finally
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had to settle for just as he put it's
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dialing in he
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also said that meadows
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spoke their day with another friend
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of the oath keepers and proud boys michael
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flynn who in
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video testimony took love
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fifth when asked the
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you believe in the peaceful transition
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of power in the united states
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of america which
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would have been incriminating yes
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for know my
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guess both how's
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that for a pic
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the
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thou meadows you
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know when he reportedly asked
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for a pardon i i i doubt he
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was thinking about the election fraud case
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against him i have a suspicion
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that he will cap a plea after being
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told mr medals you're looking
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at twenty years how would you like to reduce
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that to ninety days or the facility where
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you can work on your tennis
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game i've
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been saying since the beginning
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that all you need to prosecute trump
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is the rams burger com you
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know fine eleven thousand seven hundred and
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eighty vote you'll be taking a big
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risk pow the
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burden county da's all over there but
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it's of federal election and that's
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a federal crime well
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after chassis hutchinson testimony
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that donald trump exhorted a
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crowd that he knew was armed
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the march to the castle inside
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it's all over
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they have to prosecute him
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and remember there are more
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hearings
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then there is the supreme
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court it's an illegitimate courts
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i was on the judiciary committee when the
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republicans refused to take up merrick
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garland the it it was supposedly about
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what mitch mcconnell called the biden
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rule referring to a floor
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speech the biden had given in june
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nineteen eighty eight when
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he was chairman of the judiciary
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committee the scotus term
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was ending no justice
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had died there were nine
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living is the justices biden
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said then it was a presidential
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election year if for justice retired
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at the end of the term retired not
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died not
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biden february but retired
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the ended june that
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he and the democrats would
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take up a nomination to replace
9:56
him or her grumman out a car the
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now many were a moderate
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war
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if president bush was george hw
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bush consulted
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with the democrats on the committee
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that is what biden said in
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his floor speech mcconnell
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why these are the binary
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said simply that he would refuse to
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take up a nominee in a presidential
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election years biden had not
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said that then
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i read biden speech allowed to my
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republican colleagues on the judiciary
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committee and business means i did the several
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times and i noted
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this scalia had died in
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february they didn't voluntarily
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die so he could be replaced by
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a younger conservative which is what
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biden was talking about
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in june of eighty eight of course
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the republicans in care
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the presidential election year that
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was have already been to ask new hampshire let
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the american people decide to replace the school
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year this was a
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coup you may
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remember this graham lindsey
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graham our judy's my words against miss
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if there's a republican president twenty sixteen
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and a vacancy occurs in the
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last year of the first term you can say
11:16
lindsey graham said less let the next
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president who it who have it might be made
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that nomination and you could use my words
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against mean you'd be absolutely right cup
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to coney barrett being sworn
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in a week the for the
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two thousand twenty election the
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widen my former democratic colleagues
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hold that over and over and
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over again and for confirmation hearing
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over which lindsey graham presided
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you said mr chairman the use my words
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against me well let me do that
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the you said if there's a republican president
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two thousand and sixteen and a vacancy
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occurs in the last year of the first
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term you can say lindsey graham
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said
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let
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web the next president whoever might
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be make that nomination
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then you can use my words against
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me and you'd be absolutely right
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and i am i'm
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absolutely right so i'm gonna
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do it again if there's
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a republic
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so let's talk about how radical
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this legitimate court is when coney
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barrett was a law professor at
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notre dame she put her name on
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a full page ad sponsored
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by st joseph county right
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to life the in the south
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bend tribune stated
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we the citizens of miss yeah no
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that's right me see anna was
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evidently michigan and indiana
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missy and i believe that's the country
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a handmade still is said we
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the citizens of messina oppose
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abortion on demand and defend
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the right to life some fertilization
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to natural this
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group of which amy coney barrett was
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a member meant fertilization
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this group wanted to criminalize
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criminalize in vitro fertilization
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they said this they
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want to send fertility doctors
13:18
reproductive endocrinologist
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who endocrinologist in vitro fertilization
13:23
they want to send them to prison that's the
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said presumably for
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murder because in
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in fertilization they routinely
13:32
fertilized many eggs than
13:35
the prism and dispose of the axis
13:37
when they're either finally success
13:40
or just won't work
13:43
the dogs decision is a
13:45
radical decisions you
13:47
know a lot of people point to the fact that in
13:49
some states they are planning to outlaw
13:52
abortion in cases of
13:54
incest or rape and that
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is disgusting the
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make no mistake this decision
14:03
there's going to mean that a lot of women
14:05
will die which
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brings me to marty short our house
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and don't get me started on the be a
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disease on the podcast
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glenn close oh my god
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of lack luster initially anyway thank
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you speaking of insulting
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people are as as
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as a humorous way but if i
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want i'm a gym neglect and
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then then of jimmy
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glick i think i've heard you say
19:54
that you're on a junket and
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a junket me around a press
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tour
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or something
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a local critics the answer
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to no it was always
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in the a jimmy glick was an amalgamation of
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a lot of things you know there was a guy that
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i had when i was doing a television
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show he was in you know as
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some sort of production
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i never really knew what he would vienna last
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that i was sheer down the hallways and
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, i have to make somebody
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had to have that last so that scene
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very low the very high very
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alone growing up
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who had you state offered to on
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for the year she
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, which he ran into him
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down
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that
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that's to have a business with from
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it is why i love of i a
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gemini is as he is a a
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concerts as a fan in the interview
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and i'm very quickly moved
21:03
some very insulting and and
21:05
says keeps doing that right under the guise
21:07
of i don't mean this negatively
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the
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it was weird with unique a certain
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characters like nathan
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term i wouldn't really right and memorize
21:19
it was exact rhythms you know nathan
21:22
therm as for for people don't
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remember nathan is this
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the completely paranoid kind
21:28
of spokesman for thanks right
21:31
when he really did become you
21:34
know like kilian conway
21:37
are those people were you know
21:39
they're cornered by logic
21:42
and they immediately deny what they've just
21:45
said and when young really quarter
21:47
the at the person you
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know so if chris guest was
21:51
interviewing me as nathan thurman as a now
21:53
when i was cast member eventually
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i'd say yeah we'll of course and i know
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that but i'm confused so
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boring here so very bland faceless
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forget , was a lot of likes what
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why don't you think i know that yes i know
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but it was some of those of
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stephen miller types you know and i
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know and the cigarettes the
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real wire in your cigarette so that
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would keep the ass off never
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lose our of everyone should go
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to , tube and find the nathan therm
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therm to me it's at
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the i think that classic with the first one might
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have been the tobacco guy right is that
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friends we appreciate your willingness to talk with
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us tonight
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what you mean by that while
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simply that we wanna thank you for taking
22:43
time out from your schedule why would not be able to
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take time off from a schedule
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though interesting that you think i wouldn't be able to take time off from
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my schedule is a tobacco industries case
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was so weak that the sending it took up on what's so
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funny that would think that the so funny from the christmas
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a therapist so
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, germany if let's say jimmy
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were interviewing
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you right where
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would he go after you were lives you
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don't write the my you know it's
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, a appeal
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and this as well as six month for sings too
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sings some
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i say me juri firearm of in there are
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to mel brooks when i said sir big
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many oh i don't know the rude
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v for the nuts
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what's my big beef
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up the things that you're always was not isis
23:42
three episodes two year old not
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and the not oh that's a sign
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from now brooks's and not the not see
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oh i know i think that route i
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guess i guess that was
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hardly your experience been on jenkins
23:57
and being interviewed by these these guys
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are
24:01
why would you in a talk show for
24:03
year putting world the diamonds
24:06
nineteen ninety nine two thousand and
24:08
i also was just looking for a
24:10
way to get more celebrities on the show
24:13
the i created one of these reporters
24:16
to the who would do junkets in that i would go an interview
24:18
tom hanks on the said sir
24:20
our already became back
24:22
at grimly you came up with
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i know was in a c t v
24:26
character crying out for some i did a groom
24:28
he was on second city stage in toronto night
24:30
and seventy seven okay amazon web
24:32
toronto there's
24:35
some people from toronto who are it still
24:37
in comedy that
24:39
is where you are new at the time
24:41
and the god spell das is legendary
24:44
what said nineteen seventy two ah
24:46
that was so nice and seventy two spring
24:49
that were you know gilda radner and
24:51
eugene levy and andrew martin and
24:54
paul shaffer
24:55
the garber
24:57
that's amazing gotcha
25:00
was a comedy i'll give
25:02
you the go comedy and and was based
25:04
on a book of st matthew in the vignettes
25:06
in the parables would be as funny as the
25:08
people doing have you seen a
25:10
a a production of god so that
25:12
had like of of not funny cats
25:15
have you seen that of well i mean i haven't
25:18
seen the yeah they're all they're cats are kind
25:20
of you know because they thing they thing and i'm
25:22
always amazed when i see anything on
25:24
broadway or off broadway him leave the
25:26
the amount of talent on that stage even
25:29
if the show doesn't work but i'm no
25:31
no i'm just saying that me to look he had gilded
25:33
doing lily tomlin then you know
25:35
is it was a particularly strong community
25:39
that production
25:40
the although it was one of the original
25:43
snl buyers secularized
25:45
eugene of course se
25:48
t v safer paul safer now
25:51
you do paul's last ah
25:58
so you had paul and and
25:59
the ackroyd was up in
26:02
trial then right
26:03
yeah so i first met danny i mean i have
26:05
a slight rain man thing for names
26:08
the dates i'm in danny
26:10
june twenty eighth nineteen
26:12
seventy two
26:14
gilda radner his birthday party and
26:18
danny and his then comedy partner
26:20
valerie bromfield were playing you
26:22
know down or it's from detroit they
26:25
never rotarix like
26:27
that i'd never met any that and
26:30
then i mean a minute when shoulder and
26:32
in i remember one time driving danny i'm buried
26:35
in the back seat and i was driving builders
26:37
wait bobo and
26:39
i would deliberately getting lost because i'd
26:41
never heard people funny i didn't
26:43
want to ride to end
26:45
yeah i mean that's an amazing group
26:48
of people in one place and courses
26:50
some of them eugene and you when
26:52
on the do s se tv andrea martin
26:55
friggin hilarious yeah the
26:58
diner on every martin oh dear god
27:00
i'll be killed and is my
27:02
this german she is
27:04
married to eat when she was
27:07
married to my wife's brother
27:10
yeah i am the uncle to her children francis
27:12
house or nice the amazingly
27:16
hilarious boy oh boy m the
27:18
se t v cass included
27:20
other brian i mean just an amazing
27:23
dave thomas how
27:26
raymond zero shares can
27:29
cancel heroin would category hello
27:32
my and liquid logos are getting
27:34
course he swears fucking
27:37
hilarious flourish account
27:41
floyd rhinestone void and then
27:43
you did those on a shoestring well
27:45
shoestring mean by the time the time know is there were
27:47
there were different variations of
27:50
of se t v m e that started
27:52
nineteen seventy six and a real shoestring
27:55
the time i joined it
27:57
which was nineteen eighty two
28:00
now already one emmys he
28:02
was in ninety minutes form it was nbc
28:05
so he added we had a good budget
28:07
i heard that the you can't repeat
28:09
they can't repeat summer early shows
28:13
anywhere because they stole the music
28:15
he had no budget so you would use
28:18
illegal use music as
28:22
others treasures their that's
28:24
where we're going to be next them i think you know
28:26
to do that five and change note saying
28:29
the doing jerry lewis
28:31
live at the sean's release a
28:33
and i'm i'm singing was
28:40
and bus
28:41
then i will be released on dvd i to go back
28:43
in and go wow log
28:46
, we're hoping your your
28:50
citizens who doesn't suit me
28:54
less dilute the okay so those
28:56
are now you do impressions and
28:59
some as impressions and impressions
29:01
the betty davis the famously
29:04
there's on you tube a thing of view doing
29:06
to betty davis smuggling saying that
29:09
was very same oh who
29:11
am we covered the organizing and
29:13
but ah let's see the
29:15
ideal me do
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i do you
29:20
wow i didn't you are that easy
29:22
to do a the either
29:25
now
29:31
now so grave of grave cliff is
29:33
i have no idea why suddenly that clip
29:35
about a year ago became like you look
29:38
at it six million users ah yes
29:40
well i to manifest join us to ease
29:42
and reaction to all that his sister
29:45
i was johnny now let's
29:47
go loosing he just said well as the
29:50
you love singing an
29:53
idiot if i'm if i'm not wrong
29:55
the didn't you want to be a singer
29:57
more than any so i so loosely absolutely
30:00
i am i have an album that
30:02
i made and to secede
30:05
actually probably fourteen yeah i'm
30:07
okay it's martin short sings
30:09
of songs and loves ago
30:12
why would i done by seeking a
30:14
frank sinatra album september my
30:16
years i've been with
30:19
my tape recorder of ghosts know click
30:26
one day you turner and song
30:29
i capella but i have to be in francs
30:31
keys he was scifi i was fourteen
30:34
then i did that whole album i worked on in any
30:37
kind of an echo we part of my attic bedroom
30:39
so you know the boy
30:41
sounded better you kind of new
30:44
show business why
30:46
was your goal early
30:48
know i never thought it was goal was
30:50
like was hobby
30:52
i really hamilton ontario isn't
30:54
and york so it seemed
30:56
if my son and for disneyland
30:58
it looked like i've seen something on neptune
31:01
you know i never thought it
31:03
never seemed like a realistic choice so
31:05
that's why when into medicine that's really
31:07
interesting because as a that did
31:09
a podcast with odin kirk said the
31:11
same thing yeah and he was
31:13
starting to write comedy like when he
31:15
was in fifth grade right
31:18
he was like rugby and stuff but he
31:20
for the life of him did not think anyone
31:22
goes into show business right now
31:24
and same with same i'm in minnesota
31:27
i'm doing comedy
31:29
and school whose on the i tell everybody
31:31
who says how do i get started in comedy
31:33
i tell parents to tell their kids
31:36
every school has a stage and
31:38
they want you a when you're in school
31:41
all the it also want you to go
31:43
on the stage and after you leave school
31:45
no one wants to get our stays the
31:48
sickness the
31:51
okay so you went in a pre med you
31:54
didn't think i'm gonna do this
31:56
but then you did he i mean i
31:58
i find myself as
31:59
two years a pre mans i was so where
32:02
can i was just drawn to the idea of
32:04
being a doctor i was a fan richard
32:06
chamberlain's were conducted kill their money
32:11
so i insist which
32:14
allowed me now to do for the first time
32:16
theater and productions and stuff
32:18
like that at my university and
32:20
still do the school in because when you're in medicine
32:22
you know time other than seriously
32:24
man as you know organic chemistry
32:26
mri or then after four years
32:29
university i was to do a
32:31
masters and so sure and
32:33
i was encouraged by eugene levy
32:36
to take a year
32:37
up and try
32:39
you come to toronto which was forty miles away
32:42
and try to be an actor
32:44
you should i think you're talented the i think you
32:46
know you should try he should give the shops and
32:48
so i thought
32:49
what an album in the mirror fifty and see
32:51
why didn't you
32:53
try that any either i wanted to go oh
32:55
yeah no rooms you detroit that know and hired
32:58
the
32:59
they give myself a year contract
33:02
and and that's when god
33:04
specialist i got god so when i was still in university
33:07
i was it was right away so
33:09
to then i would renew my contract
33:11
from year to year and then funny i just the
33:14
i was stuck
33:15
the new your contract to myself
33:18
in others i didn't want to be twenty eight
33:21
it really broke with no direction
33:24
you know i just do and i knew about so you
33:26
five showbiz was nice are the odds were
33:29
you know the odds are times against you
33:31
no wonder you know
33:33
my son henry graduated from notre dame
33:35
business and ninety eight percent of graduates
33:38
are place in major jobs
33:40
after that
33:41
right
33:42
that's not true if you graduate from juilliard
33:46
sure it you know dana
33:48
carvey one said to me is no reason
33:50
to be a comedian unless you have to be
33:54
amazing i don't believe
33:56
i had to be to flee i think
33:58
i just a really had
34:00
fun doing it
34:03
they got work
34:04
that allow me to have more fun to assess
34:06
assess okay school there's that
34:08
them they are you following with this
34:11
group and of
34:13
, genius to genius comedians
34:15
out the all i know and i would go back to i want
34:18
to go back to that year musical
34:20
taste so i'm the same age as far as going
34:22
in the me was the beatles i'm
34:25
like a normal in our age
34:27
the us and and you are
34:29
sinatra and tony bennett and
34:34
there's also be the i love the beatles but
34:36
i was
34:37
learning to sing
34:40
he's not and twenty bet
34:42
you know i've had this conversation harry
34:44
connick were
34:45
we were both obviously different
34:47
generations but he was the
34:50
dean at one point and i was fifteen at one
34:52
point and were listening to sinatra
34:54
hold a note an old man river
34:57
there's a little drunk any lands in jersey
35:06
i get to read
35:08
breath
35:09
so that i learned how to scenes from
35:11
listening that stuff and placement with tony
35:14
you know
35:14
i'm tony bennett yeah
35:16
did you think i'm going to be a singer in show
35:18
business rather than lunch and i mean
35:21
i i think i never thought i was gonna
35:23
be services you know i had a fictitious
35:25
television show my adequate have guests
35:28
i never took it seriously
35:30
like open and and
35:33
gallon of immense my first job
35:35
was a musical so i was singing no
35:39
tell us about the fictitious musical them
35:42
when , family join a deal
35:44
with nbc nothing
35:46
and ah but i
35:48
but i like mondays at eight
35:50
pm but every other monday
35:53
because it allowed me time for my
35:55
stick to system
35:57
the other is i was so big
35:59
the
35:59
nine nine to come on my own
36:02
schedule
36:03
then i would have guests and
36:05
i was also don't fruit might sit reel
36:07
to reel and then i would take things up the
36:09
tv guide highlights and then
36:11
i'd while a medley of songs that were nominated
36:14
and so my go to dinner and night
36:16
yeah i pause
36:18
then you're so asserting that you didn't have to
36:20
go in the show you , that's
36:24
okay okay
36:27
that's that's swimming oh yeah maybe i should
36:29
rethink my series
36:31
yeah
36:33
so i'm watch you it i've once
36:35
you and steve do your show oh
36:38
by the way bar the reason we're time
36:40
he it this way is it only murders
36:43
in the building is premiering
36:45
the i love the show watched every
36:48
episode thank you as
36:50
soon to beginning that you been working
36:52
with steve
36:54
since i was three amigos
36:56
first time years and i met steve on
36:58
back to the rain man saying on july
37:01
thirteen nineteen
37:03
eighty five and i know that
37:05
because i'm moving tricks of knowing that when
37:08
the trick was that i remember i'd done
37:10
on dave letterman appearance i finish
37:12
my year and snl
37:14
dick ebersol and i dunno at
37:16
and letterman
37:17
it appears when i went to lorne michaels
37:19
apartment
37:20
the discuss this western
37:23
and i was flying to l a the next day
37:26
that's a western the he was pitching to you
37:28
we had well that he was there were these me
37:30
i'm in for which was three amigos
37:33
and so rise of third amigos and then the
37:35
next airport ally
37:37
i've been i went to seize house and met
37:39
him and picked up a spring
37:41
my job we we talk about this in our show and
37:43
i say you know
37:44
i saw his works of art matter how did
37:46
you get this rich to that senior work he
37:49
ran here to skip the three amigos and where have you
37:51
seen
37:51
read miranda's his name just cross it out okay
37:59
and that sort of the relationship you
38:02
have on stage and then that's
38:04
enough so than we do know
38:06
when you make movies your
38:08
interesting because
38:10
it might be yugoslavia
38:12
of the three months or something and then you never
38:14
see those people again and see
38:16
but i think and chevy all made
38:18
it determination that we wouldn't let that
38:21
you don't it's even i did many things together
38:24
where's for okay frank were
38:26
awarded the front of i was operation
38:29
of operation of you
38:31
know charles shown as you might as he wrote it i
38:33
mean they just this is course the
38:36
of the by the bride and frank is the wedding
38:38
planner that's right
38:39
they say what his accent was
38:41
no sit around
38:45
and i remember they were they were
38:47
in the first day we shot
38:49
there are little nervous about it because
38:51
the studio because was a sincere movie
38:53
and this is a heightened character my premises
38:56
always hey go and pick up your shirts
38:58
there's a guy work in their this
39:01
the your them frog and if
39:03
you're not trying to make movies is living
39:05
characters exists in i
39:07
like you know long as it doesn't look like
39:09
i'm trying to be funny will be fine but
39:11
we would you many takes who are you
39:13
hit is awesome do with i like the ball and
39:16
then with turn it down and turn it down insurance
39:18
and remember one point caesar will i
39:20
don't get the joke now i understand perfectly
39:22
so we turned up again in
39:24
of define what that level was
39:27
so they did it so it edited it together
39:29
to creature
39:30
so there's some over the top stuff whereabouts
39:33
are you i made as would actors should do when
39:35
they're making see of doing
39:37
try
39:38
if this range of and then
39:41
the a bit choice will be obvious in
39:43
the middle
39:44
there is a a line of yours
39:47
that i used
39:49
to bond with so
39:52
my colleagues in the senate some
39:55
the older ones there's a
39:57
senator's bathroom ah off
39:59
the scent of floor and the line
40:01
i would use when standing
40:04
at the urinal next to a colleague
40:06
of mine is the only
40:09
time i don't have to be
40:11
is when i'm p
40:15
man oh man
40:18
that always gonna laugh
40:20
and just a thong there my
40:22
friend in
40:26
other jubilee blink question with the about the same
40:28
subject with different gear and on the buyers
40:31
to plan out of journals
40:36
the first week i'm there in the senate
40:38
we have these sort of my or hearings
40:41
right offense
40:43
it gets me i'm last from the most
40:45
you have been there a week and or less
40:47
and she says as she became
40:49
prosecutor because she was very nice why
40:52
do we don't prosecutor in it for
40:55
from at a show where the prosecutor
40:57
lost every case i see so actually
40:59
last one case and then i went okay
41:02
why gallaher questions here that was
41:04
just machines are gorgeous and then at the am
41:06
i had a a thirty minute questing theory and
41:08
i had like a man and a half left over the and they
41:10
couldn't develop some else i went okay just curiously
41:12
what was the case of time
41:15
a some loss
41:16
then she said
41:17
i don't know everyone been looking
41:19
for me to be funny then
41:21
i was avoiding it but ice but
41:23
she said i don't know and i said didn't the white
41:26
house prepare you and
41:31
he just as big laugh and suddenly get all his press
41:33
al franken as be fine okay so
41:35
now we go to this
41:37
is over or are questioning
41:39
of her later and we go into
41:42
the hearing our our normal
41:45
judiciary room and we
41:47
getting an f b i clarence this are doing
41:49
since clarence thomas thing happened yep
41:51
at this official me
41:53
where we sit down to hear anything bad
41:56
about the person because they knew some bad backlash
41:58
sam's happened because they had right
42:00
now they just perfunctory have this been so
42:03
we go in the meeting with nothing to do we have
42:05
to sit there fifty minutes with nothing the
42:07
do tom coburn from oklahoma goes
42:09
like actually carry mace was to guests
42:12
and now is it's all over the internet people
42:14
are talking about primates it's and
42:17
sessions just essence goes
42:19
our dragnet
42:23
an and a cornyn says
42:26
the i really like highway patrol
42:28
and i say yeah
42:30
i worked with broader crawford they
42:33
all go
42:35
what and
42:38
a broader a crawford had hosted
42:40
the shelf i remember yeah
42:42
and they went what was he was
42:44
he was he was drunk all weeks ma'am
42:49
you told them that yeah yeah
42:51
but now i had one their respect
42:54
for english
42:55
i had one my santa
42:57
seat in one of
42:59
the narrows victories ever i
43:01
was the sexiest democrat in
43:04
the you know at the time that so he could end
43:06
up passing the passing cia but the saying
43:08
that made them like though like oh you're
43:11
a real there's and worthy
43:13
of respect
43:14
was i worked with cross well you know
43:16
i do think though that the
43:19
most
43:20
hoping we are to that kind
43:22
of celebrity thing is when you're twelve
43:24
yes
43:25
yeah so when he was twelve use
43:28
watching highway patrol know like i'm
43:30
member meeting tony
43:33
curtis like the should be
43:36
late eighties
43:37
it was a bad jamie lee curtis his
43:39
house that's your brother and
43:43
you know i met and by that time i was in the movies
43:45
and i met a lot of celebrities famous
43:47
people
43:48
but when he walked in it was like wow
43:51
oh my god is that a famous face to
43:53
me
43:54
because when i was twelve my favorite film
43:56
with some like a dot
43:58
yeah so there are
43:59
people who you idolize when or
44:02
that
44:03
made a huge impact on you when you're
44:05
a kid so i bet mans effort
44:08
than your contemporary that you respect
44:10
me absolutely yeah yeah i mean i
44:12
knew mike nicholls for twenty years but i pinching
44:16
myself that in if i was at
44:18
a dinner with him that i actually knew
44:20
him because when i was twelve
44:22
nichols and may i thought through the geniuses
44:25
the and then used to that our broadway
44:27
omelet still
44:28
it could have been recorded just let you know
44:31
as as far as to church working how funny this
44:34
is it is amazing
44:37
that work and then that's what you're
44:39
watching when you were twelve and set
44:41
of cb sales or something like that right
44:43
i was at least know i was wasn't nichols may
44:46
and them jerry lewis and
44:48
jonathan winners courses in laurel
44:50
and hardy and abbott and costello those who
44:52
i love laurel and hardy a d o
44:54
you bob rae fan
44:56
when i think they would be on the radio
44:58
like in our kitchen
45:00
i'd i'd those are my of so talkers
45:02
america last
45:05
week during the hearings which
45:09
is brian pease i'd recommend anyone the got
45:11
a you tube and and and fine maps
45:13
are you been watching the hearing right oh
45:15
every one of them yes absolutely and
45:18
have anything shocked
45:20
you know
45:22
, mean mean know i know
45:25
there's nothing from my perspective
45:27
that i've heard that
45:29
surprise me at all you know i
45:31
i all believe that
45:33
trump was capable of saying anything i
45:35
do believe that he so
45:38
pins down the river and called him a
45:40
whim i believe that complete
45:42
this fits the pattern
45:44
yeah that's the thing is i it
45:46
this is exceeded my expectations
45:48
i think they've done a great job yes i think
45:50
they don't bring a job
45:52
then i don't we did you can ever change
45:54
the people that are a cultists to him
45:56
but i no many many
45:59
republican family guy raise my kids with
46:01
in l a and i
46:03
think they would watch this and be quite
46:06
affected and start to even if they
46:08
had been in that camp
46:11
of trump at one point
46:12
would really have to say this is it's
46:15
i can if they watch it but this
46:17
is a polling shows or people are already
46:19
moved on are watching it's twenty million people's
46:22
yeah but you know it's twenty which twenty
46:24
million people and the maga
46:27
people that you would want to be
46:29
persuaded or
46:30
deliberately not why i don't think
46:32
the i don't think so ever be swayed
46:34
but there are only wow you're middle pts
46:37
and that's exactly yeah we're bucks
46:39
a year to me it is
46:42
and you and i have talked about to
46:44
we need to prosecute this guy right yes
46:47
i think it sends a very very harmful
46:49
message to america is someone who clearly
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should be
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prosecuted isn't then it then
46:56
you can no longer say that third no
46:58
man is bob the law clearly donald
47:00
trump would be above the law because he's
47:02
broken it and they're proven
47:05
it is broken it endlessly
47:07
so i mean how do you feel like
47:09
if you're the common man and single
47:12
wait a second i don't give the rules
47:14
my my question is is a
47:16
paper saying like wealth we need more
47:19
what more do you need them
47:22
he was
47:24
glad a conspiracy to overturn
47:26
a democratic election i never had any
47:29
an emmy vet there's no question
47:31
about and and mean
47:33
i'm here to made in america and but
47:35
i've since it ever happened before
47:38
these now no
47:41
this is nixon the
47:44
not a pristine by oh but
47:46
this is child's play compared to
47:48
sort regret and if you think about
47:51
it it you know they talked about gore
47:53
confirming or certifying
47:56
right when he was vice president sort of i'm bush
47:59
nixon
47:59
certified kennedy yes
48:02
absolutely
48:03
i think about that
48:04
right now is a very disputed election
48:06
because of illinois in texas absolutely
48:09
to me is the only defenses insanity
48:12
and
48:14
are you run saying he says the word
48:16
more i realize you don't think he's well
48:19
one really shameful to me are the
48:21
ones who know better who don't
48:23
have any kind of psychological
48:25
illness like trump does like ted
48:28
cruz and josh holly's
48:30
lindsey graham these are the ones that the
48:33
play in them war
48:35
of their soul know
48:37
how
48:38
wrong trump and trump is
48:41
among what he stands from what he's done democracy
48:43
they know that be true but
48:46
i guess they don't want to work at blockbuster when
48:49
take when take break will be right back with
48:51
marisa
48:54
honey me basically came to hollywood with
48:56
a dream she wanted to be
48:58
i'm once again
49:00
when she married actor robert blake is she
49:02
not her dream come true
49:05
killing all went wrong made
49:08
, two thousand nine thirty
49:10
pm money was found in a car
49:12
bleeding severely she had been
49:14
shot
49:19
when in the our she was gone
49:22
overnight bonnie went from victim to villain
49:25
the press called you're a grifter a liar
49:28
a scammer was in the pornography business
49:30
she was in the prostitution business she had a criminal
49:32
conviction ball around the country in various states
49:35
but who was bonnie really and
49:37
who wanted her yeah listen
49:39
to the execution of bonnie li basically
49:41
on amazon
49:42
music apple podcasts spotify
49:44
where you can listen early
49:46
an ad free by joining wonder replies
49:48
in the wonder he had
49:54
we're back with martha stewart let's
49:56
, about only mers
49:59
in the building it
50:01
is use even selena one of my favorite
50:03
things in the shows that you guys are old
50:05
and she's young and
50:09
, was a line in it that i
50:11
think see socio which is the
50:13
hate it when you call them yes you're trying
50:15
to communicate with or we're trying to stop
50:18
and your own her
50:20
and season some like oh
50:22
seem to accept them for some
50:28
one time one time my my
50:30
brother mike was very funny use one many
50:33
many many emmys for it as a tv
50:35
from sctv to shit creek mount
50:37
but he is keep his son and my
50:39
son the same age and
50:41
they were just growth on their phones
50:44
there's thing is to not speaking and
50:47
between them was a cheeseburger
50:49
mike maintain that henry was texting
50:53
cause i'm sorry you could finish them
50:55
iran admirably
50:59
as
50:59
it's a different face and also the
51:02
there's a problem is running were joking
51:04
the show siva was signing
51:06
his
51:07
seriously i mean i don't have to do
51:09
that right sided
51:12
tape sincerely charles tape conservative
51:15
now in in the thing you both are in show
51:17
business if you are but you
51:20
are director right your guy was a
51:22
i'm op's theater director and steve
51:24
was and actor again i was always passing
51:26
those people that are seen as always
51:28
ask me about this the on someone who
51:31
was like
51:32
mentally popular for about seven years
51:35
that hasn't worked for twenty five the
51:37
romances caregiver
51:39
and of course
51:41
steve created this with
51:43
someone else right on are you know any the
51:45
seashore is this the he was at
51:47
a party at sandy gallons
51:50
the great manage and
51:52
sitting on the couch with three older actors
51:55
sandy said to see you know you should write
51:57
a series for them
51:59
and
52:01
the who is obsessed with to crime
52:03
with rodgers all those shows endlessly
52:06
we the would have to be an interesting thing they live in one
52:08
building and he thought about it meant was it they
52:10
eight years ten years go and then he
52:13
had lunch with damn fogelman and is
52:15
a tremendous brilliant writer director
52:18
and then as severe
52:20
than id and season like do at this ib
52:22
and then within eight months
52:24
we're production
52:26
and you both play guys who are in showbiz
52:28
because that's all you know basically
52:32
it's true
52:33
there are except where your truth
52:35
as level
52:37
back back back
52:39
how is this season is
52:41
a well well you know i know the end of the last
52:44
last season when and and when we were arrested
52:46
where are killing the
52:49
woman who ran the building and money
52:51
and so that's how we start off season
52:54
oh okay and you know shirley maclaine isn't
52:57
it amy schumer
52:59
wow well i'm tina fey
53:01
of course is do i need to made his back
53:03
the name
53:06
andrea more me
53:08
oh cool amazon who
53:11
is everyone the man
53:13
who had user own by a b
53:15
c is
53:17
it yes it's a you know i fought
53:19
a lot of the a the
53:22
mergers when i was in the summer now
53:24
can you now have actually do they don't that's
53:27
i know i know i know now
53:29
you're still touring with steve but not during the summer
53:32
i take no he just he just
53:34
three shows this weekend i love the show i
53:36
love the show i've seen it twice and
53:38
i loved it the first time for sansa was in phoenix
53:41
that's right i loved it and ah
53:44
then second am i saw was in d c has
53:46
thrived may me over year later i sang
53:48
and it was even better
53:51
oh good which is should be f
53:53
you do have suffered because of my this
53:56
is the was worse is steve is probably
53:58
one of the most discipline the comedian
54:01
well he is is the most creative
54:04
human being i've ever experienced my life's
54:06
you know and it is
54:08
always i'm thinking
54:10
and writing changing and
54:13
then it doesn't work he just laughs it
54:15
off you know
54:16
the house but ah i
54:19
remember seeing steve it
54:21
would be nineteen eighty maybe i didn't know
54:23
because i would known for five years meet him for five
54:25
years right and but he was i'm presenting
54:28
best comedy album the grants
54:30
the came out with damn fool
54:32
tales but boxer underwear
54:34
no pants
54:35
then he didn't acknowledge it he just started
54:38
reading the nominations and
54:40
then a man ran out
54:41
the ball guy
54:43
with pants on a hangar it steve just what tools
54:45
and well it's about time
54:49
after reading it will there's
54:51
like mozart you
54:54
know is is is saying how
54:56
huge
54:58
he was during that period right lose
55:00
i remember seeing him as the amphitheater in l a
55:03
a height of steve martin night and seventy eight right
55:05
but danny and
55:07
john we're opening form is the blues brothers
55:10
right big that when i saw med
55:12
avery fisher hall in that
55:14
tour i think same tour and the first
55:16
swine was i've gotta stop playing these
55:18
toilets that
55:22
was wild and crazy guy and
55:24
that characters the carefree played in
55:26
his standup is
55:29
about is different from him how absence
55:31
and lose as anyone could be and
55:33
i think bad there is attention
55:36
which is the uses
55:38
huge huge rock star of
55:40
comedy and people think he's
55:42
kind of that guy right and
55:45
so i think it was there is
55:49
knowing steve as well as you do was
55:51
there that tension did the that
55:53
affects him in anyway
55:56
i don't know i mean i eat i see
55:58
i knows when i
55:59
steve i think of him kind
56:02
of like allowing for a guy me is always doing
56:04
jokes she's always with me
56:07
the be very comfortable with you then he's is
56:09
just as funny as you think the
56:12
you'd be unit
56:14
they are you seem but he was
56:16
always writing is a new job that he is put
56:18
in the other night said that you know i'm
56:21
i'm i'm actually i turned seventy seven
56:23
this summer
56:25
oh i'm sorry i'm so dyslexic medicine
56:27
seventy seven
56:28
he didn't i didn't
56:30
mean as a half your steve
56:33
martin
56:35
the as as a beautiful jokes i'm
56:38
bifurcated podcast
56:40
the choose i do a lot of public
56:42
policy and as
56:45
i do comedians yeah exactly and nothing
56:47
and nothing sort
56:49
of that yeah there's hardly any
56:51
funny that would what would you interview team for
56:53
dash i
56:55
where i just couldn't
56:57
i know i couldn't interviewer
56:59
i don't know anything about her
57:02
i didn't want to kim kardashian in two
57:04
thousand and eleven and she was
57:06
really charming and sweet smart
57:10
surprisingly in the least two it
57:12
didn't see it share a reality show or something
57:16
f b i am probably showing my ignorance
57:19
but the i am a lot of that time i
57:21
was during time the senate
57:23
i really was still has done a
57:25
lot of attention to popular culture
57:28
and back so i have i have i have
57:30
i'm a little bit of a gap there i understand
57:33
yeah and was taking
57:35
what i did pretty seriously as
57:37
do you yes they
57:40
do and that more thank
57:42
you this is the then
57:44
l been lovely lovely
57:47
out do added or is is just wrong
57:50
we added my god yes
57:53
oh my god such
57:57
some of the stuff i was
57:59
the
57:59
the stop all and allowed to make me
58:02
look better stats
58:07
, we mainly focus on notice
58:10
notice i i hope you enjoyed you
58:13
were beautiful music is by we'll
58:15
cut disagree we'll cocky i
58:18
want to thank the pier ogburn for producing
58:21
despite we'll talk
58:23
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