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Hello, and welcome to this

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episode of The Angel Rated Show.

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I'm Angela Bryant. And with me

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today I have the ever sparkly

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Sarika, so Sarika is the founder

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of Sarika group, helping people

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brighten their faces and spirits

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through sake and face yoga. So

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before she became a Sake, Sake

0:51

Yogi, Sarika worked for the

0:55

United Nations, in Asia and

0:55

Africa, on women's empowerment

0:58

and sustainable urban policy.

0:58

And before that she did, she did

1:02

her Master's of Science at LSE,

1:02

which London School of

1:04

Economics, and keeping that same

1:04

focus on gender and

1:07

sustainability. So she now

1:07

shares her love of sake and face

1:11

yoga, with a special attention

1:11

on small scale sustainable

1:15

breweries and women brewers. And

1:15

she really enjoys face yoga. And

1:19

I'm sure we're going to talk

1:19

about that a lot. And as we go

1:21

through, but to start with, tell

1:21

us your story, tell us a bit

1:24

about how you came to be doing

1:24

what you're doing now.

1:30

First of all, thank you

1:30

for having me. Thank you for the

1:33

introduction. You introduced me.

1:33

So that's what I do. Yeah,

1:37

basically, I help people

1:37

brighten their faces and spirits

1:42

through sake and face yoga.

1:45

So how did you

1:45

get into that?

1:47

Well, it's actually

1:47

really simple. It's just because

1:51

I really love Well, I discovered

1:51

that I really love sake and face

1:56

yoga. So, you know, they're both

1:56

like my most favorite things.

2:01

And I'd never thought of it. I

2:01

mean, I never thought of that as

2:05

a business, of course, but

2:05

somehow it just organically

2:09

evolved. And I'm teaching both

2:09

right now.

2:14

So for anyone not

2:14

watching this video, anyone

2:16

listening, explain your sort of

2:16

cultural background and what

2:19

what connection you have sake.

2:22

Yeah, well, first of

2:22

all, I'm Japanese. And while

2:26

sake is basically our national

2:26

drink, but the thing is, I never

2:32

actually like sake in fact, I

2:32

always felt like it's

2:36

disgusting. And I never really

2:36

understood what is so you know,

2:42

fascinating about sake, like

2:42

until about 10 years ago. And

2:47

just by chance, because kind of

2:47

in Japan sake. I mean, it's

2:52

changing now, in those times,

2:52

like, in my, when I was young

2:57

sake is like, my grandfather's

2:57

drink. You know, it's like a non

3:02

stylish drink. I was never

3:02

really interested in. And, you

3:07

know, I would always drink sake

3:07

at my grand parents place, and

3:10

it tasted pretty bad. So I was

3:10

never interested. But just one

3:16

day, just like complete chance,

3:16

I had this most amazing drink.

3:22

And it turned out to be sake and

3:22

ever since somehow, just

3:28

organically. I started learning

3:28

more about sake, and I was so

3:32

blown away that sake was

3:32

supposed to taste so delicious,

3:38

like this. So that's really how

3:38

I started. It wasn't, you know,

3:42

it wasn't like I had a business

3:42

strategy in place or anything it

3:46

just that I was just blown away

3:46

How delicious sake is. And then

3:51

I learned little by little that,

3:51

actually, that the sake industry

3:56

in Japan is in a major crisis,

3:56

that it's actually no because of

4:01

different reasons. The domestic

4:01

consumption is just going down.

4:07

And just in the last, let's say,

4:07

50 years, it's gone down like

4:12

1/3 of the consumption, even

4:12

though it's a national drink. So

4:17

yeah, I thought that's a

4:17

tragedy, it's such a delicious,

4:21

you know, sake is, of course,

4:21

like is a drink, but it's To me,

4:25

it's like the art. It's really

4:25

drinkable art. So have you had

4:30

sake Angela?

4:31

Not for a long,

4:31

long time, but I have tried it.

4:33

So just to be clear, it's a

4:33

fermented rice wine. Is that a

4:39

good description?

4:40

Yeah, absolutely.

4:40

Absolutely. Yeah, it's a Yeah,

4:44

exactly. It is it is the same

4:44

category as beer and wine. It's

4:48

not distilled like vodka.

4:48

Because a lot of people think

4:51

it's like, oh, it must be

4:51

distilled and 40%, but it's

4:55

actually just a tiny bit above

4:55

wine. Like that's a 16 percent

5:00

or so? Yeah. So exactly like you

5:00

said, you know it.

5:04

So you you

5:04

obviously have become passionate

5:07

about it and really want to

5:07

promote it. And so is that

5:10

that's obviously the sort of the

5:10

drive behind the business that

5:14

you've created your Sarika group

5:14

is to do that and help do that

5:18

education.

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Absolutely. Because I

5:19

want to, of course, I want to

5:23

continue drinking my delicious

5:23

sake. That's an underlying thing

5:27

as well. But really, I was so

5:27

surprised after studying about

5:32

sake that actually so many, even

5:32

Japanese people don't know much

5:36

about it. And they don't value

5:36

the sake and that was a little

5:40

bit shocking. So yeah, so that's

5:40

for sure. I would love to share

5:46

how delicious and beautiful sake

5:46

is to Japanese woman. And of

5:50

course, people outside of Japan

5:50

too. So that's one driver. But

5:55

now knowing that the sake

5:55

industry, it's like, every

5:59

month, there's a sake brewery

5:59

going bankrupt. And, you know,

6:02

these breweries have been going

6:02

on for centuries. And so I know

6:08

putting all of this together.

6:08

Yes, I love drinking sake, I

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would love to share how

6:12

delicious it is to my fellow

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Japanese women. Because Japanese

6:17

woman now is changing. But you

6:23

know, when I was younger, of

6:23

couse people would gravitate

6:26

towards wine, champagne, which

6:26

is great. Of course, that's

6:29

delicious, too. But we tend to

6:29

forget that we have such a

6:33

beautiful craft right at home.

6:33

So that's kind of one driver.

6:38

And then others. Of course, if

6:38

we have more consumption, these

6:42

sake breweries, you know, sake

6:42

has been going on for 2000

6:47

years. So it's such a shame if

6:47

it's going to collapse like

6:51

this. So yeah, definitely want

6:51

to see, and we can do something

6:57

about the sake industry. So it's

6:57

like many reasons. But those are

7:00

the main three.

7:02

It feels like it

7:02

needs that revolution. I think

7:04

we've had something similar in

7:04

the UK around gin over the last

7:07

decade, where lots of new

7:07

producers have appeared. And

7:11

it's become the in thing and

7:11

lots of new breweries. So it

7:16

feels like sake needs to have

7:16

that in Japan.

7:19

Absolutely. The only

7:19

problem though, in the industry

7:23

is that there are no, under the

7:23

sake law or under Japanese law.

7:27

You can't open new breweries

7:27

anymore. Yes. So like, yes, it's

7:33

there's a huge I mean, there's

7:33

so many regulations concerning

7:38

sake in Japan. And home brewing

7:38

is also banned. And there are

7:42

many things that are banned that

7:42

are completely allowed

7:46

everywhere else in the world. So

7:46

yeah,

7:48

So once these

7:48

breweries close down, that's the

7:51

end.

7:51

That's the end. There

7:51

are exceptions, if you can open

7:55

a brewery, if it's only for

7:55

export, for example, but not in

8:00

a normal sense. Yeah. That's the

8:00

regulations, but we need to find

8:05

ways to revive.

8:07

So what do you

8:07

want to be known for? What do

8:09

you want your business to?

8:09

legacy? Do you want to create

8:12

with what you're doing?

8:14

Yeah, well, legacy is

8:14

quite grand. But um, well, my

8:19

vision, of course, is that the

8:19

sake in the popularity? I mean,

8:22

there's, there is actually I'm

8:22

confident that there is actually

8:26

a mini mini revival happening

8:26

already compared to let's say,

8:30

10 years ago, which is great.

8:30

And, yeah, so in terms of what I

8:37

hope will happen, um, well,

8:37

hopefully that, you know, more,

8:42

more people like especially even

8:42

in within Japan, because at the

8:46

end of the day, domestic

8:46

consumption is the majority of

8:50

sake. And actually export sake

8:50

export is growing like tripling

8:55

quadrupling, but it's the

8:55

domestic consumption that is

8:58

really declining. So you will be

8:58

great is actually definitely

9:02

people would wake up and realize

9:02

that we have such a delicious,

9:06

you know, craft right at home,

9:06

and we'll start appreciating

9:11

more sake in Japan itself, as

9:11

well.

9:15

And tell us more about the you talked about sort of gender and sustainability.

9:17

What's the how's it vary in

9:20

terms of male versus female

9:20

makers? And do you use

9:23

specifically support female

9:23

makers? How does that fit into

9:26

your business?

9:28

Well, first of all, as

9:28

you can you imagine, the sake

9:32

industry is rather heavily male

9:32

dominated. The reason being that

9:37

actually women were not even

9:37

allowed inside the brewery for

9:41

centuries, because of many

9:41

reasons, like religious and

9:45

practical reasons, you know,

9:45

lots of superstitions about how

9:49

a woman's menstrual cycle may

9:49

interfere with the ferment rice

9:54

fermentation and, of course,

9:54

other practical reasons, but

9:57

it's all heavy work. So So this

9:57

kind of background means that

10:02

only now there are finally woman

10:02

brewers coming into the scene.

10:08

And even though the original

10:08

sake brewers were actually

10:10

woman, like back in third

10:10

century, yes, the temple

10:14

priestess were brewing sake,

10:14

that was really the secret

10:19

origin of sake. But, you know,

10:19

somehow it became so

10:23

commercialized. And it's truly

10:23

it became kind of at one point

10:28

how the Japanese government see

10:28

that as a tax, a great tax

10:33

revenue, so a lot of regulations

10:33

on the sake industry and how to

10:37

scale it. So through that kind

10:37

of direction, kind of women were

10:43

banned for a while. And now, we

10:43

finally have great women

10:48

brewers. But you know, out of

10:48

the whole right now, there's

10:52

about 1200 breweries. And if you

10:52

can guess how many women brewers

10:59

that there are? There's each

10:59

brewery has one master Brewer

11:03

out of 1200.

11:05

So I'm guessing

11:05

it's a fairly small number is

11:08

it? Is it 100 200?

11:11

You're very optimistic.

11:11

So it's about well, there are

11:16

varying statistics, because

11:16

actually, they're they're not

11:19

really officially documented,

11:19

but it's about roughly 30 to 50.

11:26

Women because they're different

11:26

hierarchies. Within the brewery,

11:29

you can have women presidents or

11:29

you can have women brewers, but

11:33

those are separate rules. But if

11:33

you think a woman as a very key

11:37

part of the brewery, it's really

11:37

miniscule number, if you think

11:40

of 1200. And there's about 30 to

11:40

50, who are really in charge,

11:46

like the sake that I have right

11:46

here is a woman owned brewery,

11:50

for example. But this is really

11:50

rare. So So yes, of course, in

11:55

my workshop and my consultancy,

11:55

I always try to feature the

11:59

e sake but the problem. Of cou

11:59

se, that's my intention. But

12:04

the problem is that there are

12:04

lso practical reasons that t

12:09

ese women who brew sake are n

12:09

t available, because most of the

12:13

e breweries, these sma

12:13

l breweries, that women a

12:16

e playing a key role are fami

12:16

y owned, really tiny brewerie

12:20

, and they don't have marketi

12:20

g budget to go overseas.

12:25

o obtaining this outside Japan,

12:25

I mean, actually, inside Jap

12:28

n even is quite difficult. B

12:28

t yeah, so that definitely, so

12:32

I always try to hide like, the

12:32

e women who are doing real

12:36

y amazing things. And I do have

12:36

a project called woman in sake

12:40

project as well.

12:43

So tell us about

12:43

that. Is that specifically on

12:45

that in that area?

12:47

Exactly? Well,

12:47

basically, we don't know enough

12:51

about these. I mean, well, first

12:51

of all, just to give you a

12:54

context, you know, Japan is a so

12:54

called developed country, but in

12:59

terms of gender, gender

12:59

equality, and ranking, we are

13:03

talking like, we're like the

13:03

bottom 100. Well, like last, you

13:08

know, every year there's a

13:08

gender. What is it called a

13:12

gender kind of index, you know,

13:12

that's issued by a lot of

13:16

places, issue it the World

13:16

Economic Forum, etc. So I think

13:20

the last 2021, Japan was like

13:20

121 out of 156 countries. So

13:28

we're like the bottom.

13:28

Definitely, in terms of gender,

13:35

really, really low. And it's, in

13:35

terms of the background like,

13:40

like education and health for

13:40

women is alright. But we're

13:46

talking about economic

13:46

participation and political

13:48

participation. It's like, very

13:48

pathetic. So that's kind of the

13:53

background of how it is. And

13:53

then if you take the sake

13:57

industry within, that kind of

13:57

overall picture, it is

14:01

definitely a more fair to say

14:01

it's pretty male dominated. So

14:06

yeah, to give you a context, so

14:06

yeah, within that, so I'm trying

14:10

to find these great women who

14:10

are doing amazing things in the

14:15

brewery who may not be really

14:15

well known. And so yeah, I'm

14:20

actually interviewing them just

14:20

like how you're interviewing

14:24

these women entrepreneurs, and I

14:24

have a project a little kind of

14:28

passion project series. That's

14:28

not income generating, but I

14:32

just do it because I have fun

14:32

and I love it.

14:35

Fantastic, I love

14:35

the sound of it. And I think

14:38

that I've seen I think I've seen one of those and it's all in Japanese, but with subtitles.

14:44

I found actually some

14:44

foreign or non Japanese sake

14:49

people too you know, so I've got

14:49

like subtitles, yeah.

14:55

I just love I

14:55

love your energy and I love your

14:57

passion for this because it's

14:57

just such a unique and sort of

15:01

targeted focus. It's Yeah, it

15:01

makes such a good business idea.

15:07

I think. So, tell us, I mean, I

15:07

think you you strike me as a

15:11

person who's always learning new

15:11

stuff. So how do you keep How do

15:14

you keep learning? How do you

15:14

keep keeping up to date with

15:16

what's going on in all these areas?

15:19

Okay, well, the world

15:19

right now with COVID. There's so

15:23

many learning opportunities,

15:23

right? That was never actually

15:27

existing before if you were far

15:27

away from Japan, so yeah, I

15:31

mean, they're brewery tours, and

15:31

all kinds of brewery talks and

15:38

all these. And of course, you

15:38

are also doing a lot of

15:41

interesting things and

15:41

participating in your project,

15:47

like the coworking crowd,

15:47

there's so many learning

15:49

opportunities that I never, you

15:49

know, thought about before.

15:53

COVID. Before?

15:54

Yeah, so you can

15:54

do so many more things online

15:56

that you couldn't do previously

15:58

I never knew about this

15:58

online world at all? Until

16:02

and now you're part of it.

16:05

I love it, actually.

16:07

So tell me a bit

16:07

more about your sort of personal

16:10

worldview, or how you live your

16:10

life, what's important to you,

16:14

what are your beliefs?

16:17

I guess that would be

16:17

the same for any human being, I

16:21

mean, very fundamental beliefs

16:21

about. So I'm really love. And

16:28

yeah. I mean, it's really kind

16:28

of hard to separate my business

16:33

and myself in some way. Because

16:33

I'm, what I love is my business.

16:39

So it's really hard to separate

16:39

these, but of course, I believe

16:42

in, especially gender equality,

16:42

and, yeah, equity. So that's

16:49

kind of my long life theme, if

16:49

you could say so because, I

16:54

mean, I never even knew the word

16:54

gender. But like, since maybe

16:59

when I was four or so I've

16:59

already had this question mark,

17:03

in my mind, you know, with my

17:03

grandparents, whenever they did

17:07

something, they would say, Oh,

17:07

sorry, you're a girl. That's you

17:11

shouldn't say that. Or you

17:11

shouldn't be wearing that color.

17:14

So if it's already been kind of

17:14

my theme for, you know, decades

17:19

four decades. That's Yeah,

17:19

that's an ongoing thing. And

17:24

that's in the UN. I was working

17:24

on gender issues. And I think

17:29

once you put the gender

17:29

sunglasses on, you can never

17:32

take it off. It's, you're always

17:32

looking at it through a gender

17:36

perspective. So yeah.

17:37

Yeah, definitely.

17:37

I think, yeah, as you said,

17:40

You've grown up in a culture

17:40

where that's it's probably even

17:40

I think I was just

17:40

always like this. I don't know.

17:43

more stark differences and some

17:43

of the things that I'm used to

17:46

in the UK, and that other people

17:46

will be used to in the US and

17:50

other places. So yeah, really

17:50

interesting to grow up in that

17:54

environment, and then go on and

17:54

work in that area. I was going

17:58

to ask some of my sort of more

17:58

lighter questions. One of the

18:01

questions that I've All I think

18:01

about is about like, what makes

18:04

I think my mom is even more than

18:04

smiley to me,

18:04

you laugh the most often, but

18:04

you laugh every few seconds,

18:07

you're like you just are

18:07

permanently happy laughing

18:10

person. So is that? Have you

18:10

always been like that? I'm just

18:14

really, I love your I mean, your

18:14

energy and your bubblyness is?

18:17

eah, always just spills over

18:17

So does that come from some

18:21

here? Or is that just a love

18:21

of life?

18:38

It's lovely. I

18:38

love it. And I love speaking to

18:40

you. And yeah, seeing you online

18:40

because that just having that

18:43

sort of level of positive energy

18:43

is is lovely. So let's talk

18:48

about something else, then let's

18:48

talk about face yoga. Because

18:51

this is the other thing you

18:51

bring into your business. So

18:54

where did you get into that? And

18:54

how does that fit?

18:57

Again It was these two

18:57

things are complete accidents. I

19:01

mean, it was never my intention

19:01

to make it a business, let alone

19:05

face yoga. When I when I tell my

19:05

former UN colleagues that I'm

19:10

teaching face yoga they go what,

19:10

what happened. Face yoga, is

19:17

basically a face exercise, and

19:17

you know, and unexpectedly I got

19:24

into it so much. Because it

19:24

looks like a joke really, like

19:29

the poses are like, but it

19:29

actually has such a profound

19:34

effect internally. Yeah, I know,

19:34

it sounds really implausible

19:39

when I tell you this, but you

19:39

know, our facial expressions and

19:44

our mind, I mean, how we feel in

19:44

our emotions are actually so

19:48

connected. That's why when a lot

19:48

of the times we carry stress on

19:52

our faces and when you actually

19:52

let go of the facial stress by

19:57

doing face yoga, you actually

19:57

You let go even your stress in

20:02

your mind. So I really, really

20:02

started loving it so much, but I

20:06

never thought of teaching it.

20:06

But it was just people kept

20:11

asking me, can you show us these

20:11

poses and just kind of again,

20:15

organically grew? So it was

20:15

never my intention. But yes,

20:19

it's part of the Sarika group, I

20:19

have two pillars. One is face

20:23

yoga, and one is sake.

20:24

Can you give us?

20:24

Is there a simple descriptive

20:30

exercise that you could give us

20:30

or something really simple to

20:32

try?

20:33

Oh, yeah, there are so

20:33

many options. There's over 70

20:36

poses, but so okay, maybe I'll

20:36

ask you like, what, what kind of

20:41

pose Would you like to know?

20:44

okay, so I keep

20:44

all my tension in my, a lot of

20:46

tension in my jaw right under my

20:46

ears here, which is hard. If

20:50

you're listening, that might be

20:50

quite hard, I'm pointing but

20:52

right at the back of my jaw. So

20:52

what's a good thing we're

20:55

releasing in there.

20:57

Okay, so there's one

20:57

called the detox pose, which is

21:01

kind of uses a great pose for

21:01

releasing overall tension, not a

21:06

specific area. But it will

21:06

definitely release this tension

21:10

here. And it's a great post,

21:10

because you don't need much of

21:13

alignment, some causes you need,

21:13

like alignment to make sure

21:17

you're doing it correctly. But

21:17

this one is super easy, you

21:20

can't go wrong. So I'll show you

21:20

and we can do it together.

21:25

You have to

21:25

describe it as well describe

21:28

what you're doing.

21:30

I hope not to shock you.

21:30

So it goes like this, I'm

21:35

breathing in through my nose.

21:35

And yeah, so what I did is

21:45

actually I expelled everything

21:45

out of my system. And in face

21:51

yoga, there's a lot of mind and

21:51

the face muscle connection. So

21:56

you want to be visualizing what

21:56

you're doing when you're, when

21:59

you're inhaling, you're

21:59

visualizing, you're taking in

22:03

all the great things like all of

22:03

the positive things from the

22:06

universe. And when you're

22:06

exhaling, in this case, through

22:10

your mouth, you're visualizing

22:10

that your stress your worries,

22:15

and you said you have tension

22:15

here, all that tension is

22:19

expelling out of your system.

22:19

But when you do this, you're

22:24

going to use your tongue. And

22:24

your you will actually feel that

22:30

your tongue in your inner

22:30

muscle, you know, organs are

22:33

actually really connected. And

22:33

you will feel even your core

22:37

engaged when you do this. So

22:37

yeah, we'll do it together.

22:42

Okay, let's give it a go.

22:44

So the shoulders are

22:44

relaxed. And you can, if there's

22:50

any residual tension, you can

22:50

kind of tap your forehead a bit.

22:55

Yep. And yet, there's no point

22:55

doing face yoga when you're

22:58

feeling tense, we want to make

22:58

sure because you know, our

23:02

posture and our emotions, just

23:02

like the facial expressions are

23:06

so connected. So if we're

23:06

hunched back, we feel sad. And

23:09

if we're heart space is open, we

23:09

actually feel open. So you're,

23:15

you want that heart space open.

23:15

And now you're going to inhale

23:19

through your nose, taking in all

23:19

the good things, and then you're

23:25

going to exhale through your

23:25

mouth. And really, really stick

23:31

your tongue out like, you really

23:31

mean it even more. Do you feel

23:38

that your core engaged when you?

23:38

Yes. So you really want to

23:43

exhale everything out? Because

23:43

we actually we don't tend to

23:47

exhale everything when we're

23:47

breathing normally, sometimes

23:51

we're focusing on inhaling, but

23:51

sometimes, you know, we forget

23:56

to exhale completely. So one,

23:56

exhale everything out. And this

24:01

is a great one for tension even

24:01

hangovers. Yeah, so that's

24:10

called the detox pose.

24:12

Thank you. That was brilliant. I'm gonna have to try that more when I'm not on

24:14

video. Well, I'll do a few more

24:18

of those later on. So before we

24:18

start wrapping up, just tell us

24:22

a bit about your I mean just, it

24:22

sounds like you've lived all

24:26

over the world. you've traveled

24:26

everywhere. You've been to so

24:30

many different places. But tell

24:30

us about some of your favorite

24:32

places to have lived and worked.

24:35

You know, I really

24:35

enjoyed everywhere I've been,

24:38

but especially well. No

24:38

favorites. I mean, with with the

24:44

UN. I was working in Nairobi,

24:44

Kenya and Bangkok, Thailand and

24:48

Vietnam. So those are really, I

24:48

really feel so close to

24:54

especially even now Kenya was so

24:54

long time ago, but whenever

24:59

sometimes I'm awake at 3am

24:59

thinking about, like the animals

25:06

and everything. Yeah, but right

25:06

now I'm in Poland, I opened my

25:11

business in Poland with Google

25:11

Translate. nearly a year ago. So

25:19

every place has had it's really

25:19

charming. It's been really

25:24

interesting.

25:24

Fantastic. So

25:24

yeah, I mean, you mentioned your

25:27

business, tell us where people

25:27

can find you and what you've got

25:30

that you're offering currently

25:30

in your business.

25:34

So I guess the easiest

25:34

would be my website, which is

25:38

sarikagroup.org. Instagram, is

25:38

sarika.sake Those are two

25:49

places, that's easy to find me.

25:52

Fantastic. And we

25:52

will put those links to those in

25:54

the show notes. So you've got

25:54

workshops, on face yoga. You've

25:59

got workshops on sake various

25:59

different things, courses that

26:02

you're creating.

26:04

Yeah. all at the same

26:04

time. I really, yeah, definitely

26:09

everything. But, you know,

26:09

they're all my babies. I don't

26:12

want to drop any of this. So

26:12

yes, I'm actually Well, I'm, I'm

26:18

an ambassador for a dokudoku,

26:18

which is the origins of sake for

26:22

the sake industry. So we have

26:22

lots of things happening for the

26:27

buduku day coming up, and I will

26:27

do a workshop for that as well.

26:32

And yes, for face yoga, I have a

26:32

mini training coming up for

26:38

women entrepreneurs, and more

26:38

later in the year. This is the

26:44

course for face yoga for

26:44

drinkers or wine lovers. That's

26:52

coming up.

26:53

It sounds like

26:53

such a good combination. Yeah, I

26:55

like the idea of doing drinking

26:55

the sake, and then doing the

26:57

face yoga the next day to take

26:57

away the effects on your face.

27:02

Sounds like a great way of doing

27:02

it. Well, thank you ever so much

27:05

for joining us Sarika. I have

27:05

loved talking to you, as I

27:08

always do. And yeah, thank you

27:08

for being here.

27:13

Thank you Angela.

27:13

Really, thank you for having me.

27:17

I really love what you're doing.

27:17

I mean, I've really admired two

27:21

of the things you're doing the

27:21

Angel Rated and the coworking

27:25

crowd. I really, really

27:25

appreciate that.

27:27

Thank you. So

27:27

kind of you so kind. So well.

27:31

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