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Welcome, I'm

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Angela Bryant, and you're

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Show, where we have inspiring

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conversations with the people

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behind the products and services

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most often used by online

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business owners. On the show,

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you'll hear how their personal

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beliefs and values have

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influenced their businesses. If

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you're an online entrepreneur

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who wants to know about the

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integrity and impact of the

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businesses you're buying from,

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then this is the show for you.

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Hello, and welcome to this

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episode of The Angel Rated Show.

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I'm Angela Bryant. And with me

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today, I have Tracie Schroyer

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from Launch Tech Made Easy.

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Tracie helps online

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entrepreneurs get past their

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tech blocks, and launch their

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online course, membership or

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other business project. She

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helps people set up their

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business back end, connect all

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the dots and make a plan for

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their online launch. All the

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while living and traveling the

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US in an RV. So welcome to The

1:04

Angel Rated Show.

1:07

Thank you, it's so nice to be here with you.

1:09

It's so lovely to have you on and we've just been having a chat about RVs before

1:11

we came on. So for anyone in the

1:14

UK, we're talking a massive

1:14

caravan. So this is where you

1:18

are in a very plush looking

1:18

caravan. So do you want to just

1:23

start by, like telling us about

1:23

how you ended up where you are

1:27

now doing what you're doing?

1:29

So it's

1:29

interesting, I had a completely

1:32

different business. And

1:32

actually, I really started as a

1:35

virtual assistant way back

1:35

before anybody knew what a

1:38

virtual assistant was in, like

1:38

2009. And I, we had three kids,

1:44

and we decided to raise kids

1:44

that really knew a lot about

1:47

money. And so we had this really

1:47

unique plan around teaching kids

1:50

about money, and everybody loved

1:50

it. And they wanted to know

1:53

more. And so we wrote a book,

1:53

and we did all the things like

1:56

isn't that kind of how it goes,

1:56

we do all the things right. And

1:59

then I went to expand it and

1:59

launch it. And it was crickets,

2:03

nobody was interested in it. And

2:03

keep in mind, this was almost 10

2:08

years ago that I was doing this,

2:08

and people did not look to the

2:11

internet at that time for

2:11

learning things they, you know,

2:14

and that that type of thing,

2:14

parents were more concerned with

2:16

other issues that their kids

2:16

might be having. And so in a

2:19

last ditch effort to make it

2:19

work, I had signed up for a

2:22

pretty expensive mastermind

2:22

group and online business. And I

2:26

went to the first event. And as

2:26

I was telling everybody what my

2:30

idea was the guru of the event,

2:30

the man running the event very

2:34

gently said to me, You know,

2:34

I've tried to launch a similar

2:37

product. And that's just not

2:37

where parents are at, I don't

2:40

think this is going to work. And

2:40

so I was sort of devastated. You

2:43

know, like, for about two

2:43

seconds, I thought, Oh my gosh,

2:47

what am I going to do now. But

2:47

then it became like this, this

2:52

just cloud lifted this weight

2:52

lifted off of me because I

2:55

realized, I didn't really want

2:55

to be doing that anymore

2:58

anyways, and he was giving me

2:58

permission to let it go. And

3:02

that was such an amazing

3:02

feeling. So I'm sitting at this

3:04

table, and I'm going through all

3:04

these emotions. And the people

3:07

around me at this mastermind,

3:07

where as he's talking, were

3:10

saying things like, he keeps

3:10

talking about a landing page. I

3:14

don't know what a landing page

3:14

is, why can't I just use my

3:17

Yahoo or my Hotmail account to

3:17

send emails. And without even

3:21

thinking about it, as a virtual

3:21

assistant, I was just answering

3:24

them like, well, this is why you

3:24

can't do that. And this is how

3:26

you do this. And within 48

3:26

hours, I had new business cards

3:30

made for this brand new business

3:30

that I started all about tech.

3:34

And the crazy thing was, I did

3:34

not consider myself techie at

3:39

all. But I knew more than the

3:39

person sitting next to me, it

3:43

turns out a lot more. But at the

3:43

time, I didn't think it was a

3:45

lot more. And it really goes

3:45

back to people having that

3:49

conversation in their mind of I

3:49

can't possibly teach somebody

3:52

how to do something I like I

3:52

love to do what I'm good at.

3:56

Because I'm not the expert. You

3:56

don't have to be the expert, you

4:00

just have to know a little bit

4:00

more than the person next to

4:02

you. So that's kind of how it

4:02

all got started. And it kind of

4:05

grew and blossomed from there.

4:05

And I realized, I love tech. And

4:11

so that's how we got to the

4:11

point where we're at today where

4:13

I help online entrepreneurs set

4:13

up different pieces of tech for

4:16

their business.

4:17

I think we've got

4:17

a lot in common here. I always

4:19

say that I'm I've always really

4:19

enjoyed making all the bits of

4:23

tech talk to each other. I've

4:23

done some launch strategy work

4:25

in the past as well. And just

4:25

that thing about making

4:28

everything work together and

4:28

make sense to make the launch

4:32

happen that Yeah, I really enjoy

4:32

doing all that.

4:34

Yeah, it's like

4:34

putting a puzzle together. You

4:37

know it you know, people look at

4:37

me and they're like Tracie, you

4:39

cannot be you know, you go into

4:39

like a mindset group or

4:43

mastermind group and they'll

4:43

say, you can't be passionate

4:45

about tech. Like that's not

4:45

something you can be passionate

4:48

about. And I'll say I am though

4:48

it's like it's like putting a

4:51

puzzle together. And if it all

4:51

works, I like I get so excited

4:56

because it you know all the

4:56

little piece and if it doesn't

4:58

work, it's more of a Hmm, let's

4:58

backtrack and see which link is

5:02

broken.

5:03

Yeah, you just

5:03

tried to solve that puzzle. And

5:05

it's just magic, as you say,

5:05

when it suddenly everything

5:08

passes a message from one thing

5:08

to the next. And it all works

5:12

beautifully and automatically

5:12

automagically. Yeah. So that's

5:17

fantastic. So what's the Have

5:17

you got a big why behind you by

5:21

you, where you want to go with

5:21

it and what you're doing with

5:23

it.

5:25

So I have a

5:25

couple of them. My first really

5:27

big why was that I wanted to

5:27

live on the road full time. And

5:31

I convinced my husband that he

5:31

wanted to do the same thing. And

5:36

so when our last child left

5:36

home, we hit the road full time.

5:40

So we've been living on the road

5:40

full time for four years. And

5:43

that was my big why for a long

5:43

time. And I had, you know, we

5:47

have to come up with something

5:47

after that. And right now, it's

5:51

to help people, especially since

5:51

the pandemic, to help more

5:55

people realize their dream, it

5:55

might not be living on the road

5:59

full time, but there are so many

5:59

people out there that have a

6:01

really cool thing that makes

6:01

them special a gift that they

6:05

could offer. And they don't know

6:05

how because in their mind,

6:08

they've told themselves, they

6:08

aren't techie, like I could

6:11

never be on line. I'm not

6:11

techie, it used to be that

6:15

people would say to me, I can't

6:15

do X, Y, or Z, because I could

6:19

never figure out zoom. Well,

6:19

clearly, like most of the world

6:23

has now figured out zoom.

6:23

Whether it's you know, my 70

6:26

year old parents, or it, of

6:26

course, the young kids have

6:30

always been fine with it. But

6:30

people start to realize, okay,

6:33

that's tech, like, they thought

6:33

they couldn't do it. But you

6:37

really can. And tech is sort of

6:37

the same way. It's like learning

6:39

to tie your shoes or ride a

6:39

bike, they don't make any sense

6:42

when you're first starting out.

6:42

It's completely, like awkward

6:46

and foreign. But then once you

6:46

learn those steps you've got,

6:50

and you're ready for the next

6:50

thing. And so that's kind of how

6:53

I look at Tech. So I, my goal is

6:53

to help 1000 entrepreneurs

6:56

launch their course or

6:56

membership in the next five

6:59

years, by helping them realize

6:59

that they have all the tech

7:03

skills that they need, they just

7:03

need to unearth them and let

7:06

them come to the surface.

7:07

That's a great

7:07

vision for what you want to do

7:10

over the next five years.

7:10

Because I think the knock on

7:12

impact of that, and all those

7:12

extra courses out there. And

7:15

each of them achieving their

7:15

goals and their dreams is

7:18

amazing.

7:20

Right? Right.

7:20

There's so many interesting

7:22

things you can learn. I was on a

7:22

call the other day with someone

7:25

who's a shaman. And he said, You

7:25

know, people think shaman is

7:29

this woowoo thing. And so his

7:29

goal is to educate people about

7:34

shamanism. I don't know anything

7:34

about what it is. But he needs

7:39

help, like doing the tech

7:39

because tech gentleman like, you

7:43

know, like the screen isn't even

7:43

big enough to say how far apart

7:46

those are. But if I can help him

7:46

think of the people he will

7:49

impact. You know, there's so

7:49

many areas like that in the

7:53

world where people you know, we

7:53

don't even know what's out

7:56

there. And we're just starting to get connected.

7:57

And it's those

7:57

knock on effects that keep

8:00

happening and keep happening. You don't know who he'll then inspire that then inspires

8:02

something else? Exactly. It

8:05

keeps the ripple keeps on going.

8:05

So is there something you want

8:08

to be known for, specifically,

8:08

either in your lifetime, or just

8:12

in this next phase,

8:15

I think I want

8:15

to be known for and I've kind of

8:17

started to be known for the idea

8:17

that if I see something in my

8:22

mind, I have the tenacity to

8:22

make it happen, whether it's

8:25

figuring out how we're going to

8:25

go on the road full time when we

8:28

did it four years ago, some

8:28

people were doing it. Not a lot

8:32

of people were doing it. But

8:32

we've inspired not just me, but

8:35

my husband as well have inspired

8:35

a lot of people to realize,

8:38

okay, this is doable. And

8:38

clearly, we're not the only

8:41

ones. There are 1000s of people

8:41

living on the road full time in

8:44

the US. I don't know about where

8:44

you are, but or where everybody

8:47

else is. But in the US it's

8:47

becoming more and more common.

8:50

So I want to be the person who

8:50

people can say, you know what,

8:54

if she did it, I can do it.

8:54

Because I think too often we

8:57

just let things Oh, it's too

8:57

hard. We just I can't I can't

9:00

imagine it. And so I love being

9:00

able to help people break

9:03

through those barriers, not so

9:03

much in a coaching capacity.

9:07

That's not who I am, but in more

9:07

of an inspirational, not that

9:11

I'm on a pedestal, but I'm just

9:11

a normal person. And we figured

9:14

it out.

9:15

It's just leading the way and showing what's possible and saying, you know,

9:16

I've done this, you know, I've

9:20

managed for me personally, you

9:20

know, I've left corporate and

9:22

I've built an online business

9:22

and you know, I've done these

9:25

things if I can do it, then.

9:25

Yeah, so can everyone else?

9:28

Exactly, fab. So once I get into

9:28

something slightly deeper, are

9:33

there particular values that

9:33

your business has or aspires to

9:38

or a specific impact you want to

9:38

have in the world?

9:41

So one of the

9:41

people that I follow pretty

9:44

closely is Stu McLaren, and he

9:44

has that tribe membership

9:47

course. And one of the things he

9:47

says and I don't know that this

9:50

is exactly it, but if you make

9:50

more, you can do more. Because I

9:54

think a lot of entrepreneurs

9:54

have this roadblock around

9:56

making money they have no right

9:56

to make money. He, it was kind

10:01

of coincidental how this all

10:01

happened. But ultimately, he has

10:05

started a program where he build

10:05

schools in Africa. And he and

10:08

his wife have this mission

10:08

together to build schools in

10:11

Africa. And a lot of online

10:11

entrepreneurs will raise enough

10:15

money for a classroom for a

10:15

school or something like that.

10:18

And so for a while, it was, you

10:18

know, I just, I wanted to just

10:22

be able to give more money away,

10:22

and maybe this month, it's

10:28

building a classroom in Africa.

10:28

But maybe it's next month, it's

10:32

doing something else somebody

10:32

comes before me, I want to have

10:35

be able to give abundantly. And

10:35

if somebody comes to me and says

10:39

that they need help with

10:39

something, I can afford to give

10:42

them the money that it takes,

10:42

whether it's helping homeless

10:45

youth here on the streets of

10:45

Minneapolis, which is where

10:47

we're from, there's a amazing

10:47

charity here that is called Hope

10:51

for Youth, that helps homeless

10:51

teenagers, basically, that have

10:55

gotten kicked out of their

10:55

houses or whatever. I love that,

10:58

that. And so sometimes, I'll be

10:58

in an event, and I'll just give

11:01

generously to that. So it's not

11:01

any one particular thing, it's

11:05

just be able to be able to give

11:05

whenever I want, and however

11:09

much I want. I don't have a

11:09

budget items are probably should

11:13

like I'm learning all about

11:13

budgeting, I know budgeting. I

11:16

taught budgeting, but I mean for

11:16

your own business, right? You

11:20

just kind of don't do it. But I

11:20

wanted to be able to beyond the

11:23

budget, just say, I want to help

11:23

you out. And whether it's

11:26

anonymously, or whether it's

11:26

part of a bigger effort, I just

11:29

want to be able to help whenever I want to,

11:31

huh, is that

11:31

thing about having the means to

11:33

be able to do that and not

11:33

seeing, making money as being a

11:37

bad thing? Because, as you said,

11:37

the more you have, the more good

11:40

you can do in the world, and the

11:40

more people you can support? And

11:43

exactly, absolutely. So tell me

11:43

a bit more about your sort of

11:49

more personal values and how you

11:49

approach life, you obviously,

11:52

value travel and that sort of

11:52

freedom and independence, I'm

11:55

guessing but what else comes

11:55

into your worldview.

12:00

So I value fun

12:00

and adventure and not taking

12:04

myself too seriously. I think

12:04

that all kind of goes along with

12:06

the idea of travel, right? But

12:06

also really important to me our

12:10

integrity, honesty, a

12:10

spirituality, spirituality, and

12:16

it doesn't, you know, it's different things for different people. But just belief that I'm

12:17

not the most important thing,

12:20

there is something more

12:20

important than me. And I use the

12:23

integrity and honesty I take

12:23

that very seriously in online

12:27

business. Because I think we

12:27

went through a period where

12:31

online business kind of had a

12:31

negative connotation to it.

12:33

People didn't really trust me,

12:33

my parents, I think, for a long

12:36

time, they thought that I was

12:36

running some kind of scam, like

12:39

how could I possibly be making

12:39

money on my computer, right? So

12:42

I went above and beyond to make

12:42

sure that I was always like, if

12:47

I'm in business, and I'm working

12:47

on a client's account. And I'm

12:50

supposed to do X, Y, and Z, I

12:50

also do A, B and C like I take

12:55

it to the next level. Because I

12:55

never want anybody to feel like

12:59

I'm less than giving less than

12:59

my very best or more than my

13:04

very best. And I think I felt

13:04

that way originally, because of

13:08

some of the people I had come in

13:08

contact with where I pay them a

13:11

lot of money for something, and

13:11

they get done. And I'm like,

13:14

Well, wait a minute. But even

13:14

though you technically did what

13:18

I wanted you to do, what I

13:18

really, really wanted was not

13:22

what you did, I wanted something

13:22

else, I just didn't know what I

13:24

was asking for. And so I always

13:24

try to get to the real crux of

13:28

when I start working with

13:28

somebody, not what do you think

13:31

you want, but what is your end

13:31

goal, because they're different.

13:34

Most of the time that people I

13:34

work with will say that they

13:36

want one thing, but what they

13:36

really want is something

13:40

completely different. They just don't know how to get there. They don't know what it's

13:42

called. And so that's where that

13:45

integrity and honesty comes in

13:45

is not just dotting the i's and

13:48

crossing the T's, but taking up

13:48

the level further to get to the

13:51

bottom of the transformation

13:51

that they want to achieve.

13:55

They are Yeah,

13:55

integrity and authenticity and

13:58

honesty, all those things. Yeah,

13:58

madly important to me. And I

14:01

completely get that idea that

14:01

people people don't actually

14:04

always know what they want. But

14:04

they know they have a good idea

14:07

of what the outcome is they're

14:07

trying to get to, but they might

14:10

be describing it wrongly. And

14:10

actually, you need somebody

14:13

who's going to be able to vision

14:13

that with you and give you the

14:16

steps and the tools to actually

14:16

make it happen.

14:21

So what, tell me what makes you

14:21

angry or what keeps you awake at

14:25

night.

14:27

So I guess it's

14:27

the opposite of the things that

14:30

are important to me is people

14:30

who are dishonest or who are not

14:33

living in integrity, that makes

14:33

me really crazy. But then the

14:37

other thing that that makes me

14:37

crazy is people who are so in

14:41

their own little box that they

14:41

aren't interested in other

14:46

points of view, or other ways of

14:46

doing things. And I've come up

14:51

against that a lot in my

14:51

business with the idea that you

14:54

could never you can never like

14:54

you know, I think entrepreneurs

14:58

hear that a lot especially I

14:58

online entrepreneurs, you you

15:02

can't make money on the

15:02

computer, you I or when they say

15:05

I can't like my goal is to teach

15:05

people that yes, you can. And so

15:10

that kind of stuff. It keeps me

15:10

awake at night making me think,

15:13

how can I get through to people

15:13

that yes, they can over overcome

15:17

this or they can achieve

15:17

something? How can I get myself

15:21

to that point? Like that's a

15:21

constant push, like, when I'm

15:25

coming up against a barrier? Is

15:25

it my barrier? Or is it an

15:28

actual barrier? And what can I

15:28

do to get through it, and then

15:31

it really helps me to think of

15:31

what the people I work with are

15:34

going through as well. And so I

15:34

think that those are things that

15:37

keep me up at night. And then of

15:37

course, I don't like to call it

15:41

unfairness because I don't

15:41

believe in fair being like being

15:44

fair or unfair. But I think

15:44

things like kids on the street,

15:49

kids who don't have a place to

15:49

live, or I have a real heart for

15:52

children, and I like dogs, too.

15:52

But I really like children. And

15:56

I take it you know, wanting to

15:56

try it. Because I have kids that

16:00

had a good life. And we have

16:00

great relationships with our

16:02

kids. And it breaks my heart

16:02

that there are other kids out

16:04

there who didn't have that life.

16:04

And so that breaks my heart,

16:08

too. And so that's another area

16:08

that I feel really, really

16:12

passionate about, and

16:12

particularly about kids in the

16:15

United States in our own because

16:15

I think it's really popular

16:18

sometimes to think we have to go

16:18

outside our borders to help

16:22

somebody. But I think there's

16:22

also a lot of people right close

16:25

to us who can use our help. And

16:25

so I always try to be looking

16:28

for those situations to

16:30

it's very easy to

16:30

sort of assume that all the

16:32

problems are elsewhere. And

16:32

actually in our own backyards,

16:35

there is so much going on that

16:35

we all need to be fixed while

16:39

doing what we can to help and

16:39

support. But I completely

16:42

understand what you're saying

16:42

that idea that there's I think

16:45

there's been a lot of gurus,

16:45

wrong word. But people in the

16:49

online business industry who

16:49

have said, there's only one way

16:51

of doing things, and it's my

16:51

way, and that's the only way of

16:54

doing it. And they've been around for a long time. And there's people coming along now

16:56

or going, there are different

16:59

ways of doing it, you know, many

16:59

different ways that we can go

17:02

about this. And there's not just

17:02

one, you know, my way or the

17:05

highway. So yeah, I completely

17:05

get that. That's really a

17:09

frustrating thing, because it

17:09

just ripples out. And you start

17:12

to believe that that's the only

17:12

thing that's possible. And it's

17:15

Yeah, I think that's where, especially with tech people get the idea. I'm

17:17

not techie, because, you know,

17:21

maybe they can't set up their

17:21

phone, or maybe they can't

17:25

connect their computer, and

17:25

little behind the scenes here.

17:29

But when we are in a town with

17:29

one of our kids, I will often

17:32

hand them my phone and say it

17:32

keeps doing this, will you fix

17:34

it? Now, that doesn't mean I'm

17:34

not techie that I can't you

17:37

know, I can do API integrations

17:37

left, right and center, there

17:40

are different areas where people

17:40

Excel. And I think that idea of

17:45

there's one way to do things,

17:45

and you have to be all in or all

17:48

out or that, you know, I think

17:48

during the pandemic, it kind of

17:51

like exposed all of that, in the

17:51

end, I see people pivoting all

17:56

over the place and thinking, you

17:56

know, there are other ways to do

17:59

it. We used to do things this

17:59

way. But when we couldn't do it

18:03

that way anymore, because we

18:03

couldn't be in person, then we

18:06

had to come up with another way.

18:06

And look at that, that way works

18:09

too. And so, you know, their

18:09

pandemic was a horrible thing.

18:13

But I think it challenged our

18:13

way of thinking. And it is has

18:17

permanently changed our culture

18:17

and and the way that we approach

18:21

business and the way we approach life.

18:23

Couldn't agree

18:23

more. So tell me how you keep

18:27

learning in your business?

18:29

Well, I'm a

18:29

course junkie. So I sometimes I

18:32

have to put myself on a course

18:32

like free is because I

18:36

constantly want to be learning

18:36

something. But then I'm always

18:41

talking to the people that I

18:41

work with to see how they want

18:44

to do things. So I really do I

18:44

work with a lot of people on

18:47

their launches. And there's a

18:47

lot of different ways to launch.

18:49

There's, you know, multiple

18:49

video series launches, there's

18:52

challenge launches, there's

18:52

webinar launches. And so I

18:55

always like to have a kind of a

18:55

curiosity behind the clients I

18:59

work with because I want I never

18:59

want someone to come with me, to

19:02

me with an idea. And have me

19:02

say, that is not going to work.

19:06

And so by keeping my mind open

19:06

to what other people have tried,

19:11

what they've heard about the

19:11

groups that they're in, or the

19:13

courses that they've taken, I

19:13

kind of can learn a lot of

19:17

different things just by

19:17

listening and making myself open

19:20

to other people's ideas. And so,

19:20

you know, that's kind of the

19:23

professional side. But then

19:23

there's the other side of me

19:25

too, that with learning, you

19:25

know, when we're traveling, we

19:29

make it a huge priority to learn

19:29

about the area that we're in.

19:34

And it's interesting to how

19:34

often so when, okay, one example

19:38

is there's a place in it's sort

19:38

of Tennessee, it covers a couple

19:43

states, but it's called Rock

19:43

City and in in Americana, you

19:48

see all these red barns with

19:48

black roofs and it says see Rock

19:51

City that lets it's been around

19:51

since the 50s. And so we went

19:54

there once and I it what it is,

19:54

is it's it. It was literally

19:59

built in the 50s I think and

19:59

it's, it was the series of rock

20:03

formations and like little

20:03

gardens that this rich woman had

20:06

and she put in. But the really

20:06

cool thing about it is, you can

20:10

only go on one path. I mean, you

20:10

can turn around and can't come

20:12

the way that you came. But it is

20:12

it goes through acres of

20:16

gardens, but you have to stay in

20:16

this very narrow path. It's like

20:19

single file, most of the way you

20:19

kind of wander around. But you

20:22

might be on top of a bridge, and

20:22

you can see down you think, I

20:26

can't wait to get down there,

20:26

that's really cool. Or you might

20:28

be down and you can say, oh,

20:28

we're gonna be up there. And so

20:31

when we're out exploring, I like

20:31

to look at the things that we do

20:35

like that and, and relate it to

20:35

business. And so I think about I

20:40

wrote a blog post about the fact

20:40

that Isn't that how we are in

20:43

business that will be we'll be

20:43

like, perfectly in a great spot.

20:47

And we'll think, who wouldn't

20:47

want to be up there. And then

20:49

when we get up there, we see

20:49

something else. We're like, now

20:51

I want to be there. Sometimes we

20:51

forget to think, let Oh, a few

20:55

minutes ago, this is where I

20:55

want to be. Let me stop for a

20:57

second, take a look around,

20:57

appreciate where I am, before I

21:01

move on to the next thing. And

21:01

so when we're out exploring, I

21:05

love to take those everyday type

21:05

of situations or those those

21:09

sort of touristy throw away

21:09

events and think about how does

21:13

this relate to business? How can

21:13

I use this to kind of illustrate

21:16

a point. And so I think we do a

21:16

lot of learning that way as

21:20

well.

21:21

And so tell me a

21:21

bit more about how you make it

21:25

work working in an RV and

21:25

traveling and running your

21:29

business at the same time, how

21:29

does that all come together?

21:32

So practically,

21:32

the internet situation is

21:36

probably our biggest obstacle to

21:36

overcome. And it was I'd say

21:41

it's one of our bigger expenses.

21:41

And so we we have, we actually

21:45

my husband just wrote an article

21:45

about this, because we get asked

21:49

about it. So often, it has

21:49

nothing to do with either one of

21:51

our businesses. But we have

21:51

three internet hotspots for all

21:55

of the major one, all the major

21:55

carriers in the US. And then we

21:58

have an international hotspot

21:58

too. So if we are traveling in

22:01

Canada, which we haven't done in

22:01

a while, we have a hotspot for

22:04

Canada. So that's the practical

22:04

nature on the RV that we have is

22:09

big enough that my husband has

22:09

his own office with a door that

22:11

closes. So because he's on a

22:11

call a lot. He's not in online

22:16

business, he's a consultant. And

22:16

so it was interesting when the

22:19

pandemic happened, everybody in

22:19

his industry was scrambling to

22:23

figure out how they could go

22:23

online. And so he became kind of

22:26

like the expert of this is how

22:26

you do it. So those are some of

22:30

the practical things. And then

22:30

we travel specifically, we'll

22:35

think about where we want to go.

22:35

And then the first thing Brett

22:38

does my husband, the first thing

22:38

he'll do is check the internet

22:41

in the Wi Fi situation to see if

22:41

we're going to have conductivity

22:44

in that area. If we're not, that

22:44

becomes a weekend trip or a trip

22:48

that we have to take time off

22:48

for. And then we both drive. We

22:53

we took professional or driving

22:53

lessons from a professional so

22:56

we because we are we're 60 feet

22:56

long when we're driving and

23:00

26,000 pounds. And so we take

23:00

turns driving and while one is

23:07

driving, the other one can be on

23:07

calls. And we so we usually stay

23:12

on our interstates where there's

23:12

internet. So if we do have to

23:15

move during the week, that's how

23:15

we manage that or we'll block

23:19

off time where we don't have

23:19

calls that type of thing. So

23:21

those are kind of some of the

23:21

practical things that that we

23:26

came up with to make it work.

23:26

But otherwise, we tend to travel

23:29

on the weekends so that we

23:29

aren't it isn't interfering with

23:32

our work. And then we don't if

23:32

we're traveling on the weekends,

23:34

we're not doing our sightseeing

23:34

on the weekends, which is when

23:37

everybody else is doing it will

23:37

schedule time off during the

23:40

week or will go early in the

23:40

morning or late in the day or

23:43

you know something to that effect.

23:45

I as many people

23:45

know I my husband and I've done

23:48

two lots of six months traveling

23:48

and both both times trying to

23:53

sort of take our laptops with us

23:53

so more sort of backpacking type

23:55

traveling but taking our laptops

23:55

with us and then doing tourist

23:59

stuff during the day and then

23:59

having a dedicated time early

24:02

evening, you know laptops out to

24:02

get some stuff done before we

24:05

went out for dinner? And I yeah,

24:05

it's really interesting how you

24:09

manage those practicalities and

24:09

juggle all the different things

24:11

that you want to get fit into a

24:11

day and yeah, enjoy life at the

24:15

same time, because that's what

24:15

it's all about. Yeah. So if you

24:20

weren't doing what you're doing

24:20

now, what what would you be

24:23

doing? What would your career be

24:23

if you've got something else

24:25

that you would have pursued that

24:25

you would love to have done?

24:29

That's an

24:29

interesting question. Um, I

24:33

don't know, I kind of think I

24:33

would do maybe something around

24:37

travel, although it makes me a

24:37

little nervous, too. You know,

24:41

people say follow your passion,

24:41

follow your passion. Sometimes I

24:44

think it's great to have a

24:44

passion that isn't associated

24:47

with your job. Right. And so I

24:47

might do something around

24:52

traveling full time living in an

24:52

RV full time some of the things

24:55

we were just talking about, but

24:55

I don't know exactly what I

24:59

really love what I'm doing.

24:59

Actually, you know what I would

25:01

do, I would go back to work for

25:01

the Disney Company, I used to

25:04

work for Disney. And they were

25:04

in Florida, and my entire family

25:09

and my husband were in

25:09

Minnesota. And so I did work for

25:14

them in Minnesota to as a

25:14

manager for Disney stores. But I

25:16

would probably go back to work

25:16

for them not as an hourly

25:19

employee, although that was fun,

25:19

too, but maybe work myself up

25:22

through their, their system if

25:22

if I was going to have somebody

25:25

else pay me and I wasn't going

25:25

to have my own business. That's

25:28

probably what I would do.

25:29

Hmm, good choice.

25:29

So before we wrap up, do you

25:33

want to Is there anything else

25:33

you want to share about your

25:35

business tell listeners where

25:35

they can find you and your what

25:39

your you know something about

25:39

your more about your products

25:41

and services?

25:43

Sure. So my

25:43

website is launch tech made easy

25:48

dot com, and I have resources on

25:48

there everything from you know,

25:51

how do you set up and what's

25:51

involved with your first funnel

25:54

to collect email addresses? I

25:54

have launched checklists,

25:57

there's resources, a blog. And

25:57

that's all great. And you can

26:00

reach me at Tracie, t r a c i e

26:00

at launch tech made easy dot

26:05

com. So you know that I'd love

26:05

to, you know, chat with people

26:09

that they can book a call with

26:09

me. But what I really want

26:11

people to know is that if you

26:11

have something you're good at,

26:14

and you do, everybody does. And

26:14

it could be something that you

26:18

know what everybody asked for a

26:18

one time for me it was everybody

26:21

was asking us like, what are you

26:21

doing to teach your kids about

26:24

money, like your kids really

26:24

understand what money is all

26:27

about? What are you doing so that was my thing for a while, or maybe you're the trip planner

26:29

in your friend group. Or maybe

26:32

you always bring the perfect

26:32

bottle of wine, whatever it

26:35

happens to be, do not let

26:35

something like the tech hold you

26:39

back. Because there are plenty

26:39

of people like me, there are

26:42

people who you know will help

26:42

you with your website, there are

26:44

people who will help you with

26:44

your graphic design, there are

26:46

people you can find people to

26:46

help you with any of the parts

26:49

that aren't your specialty. So

26:49

as long as you can focus on

26:53

being you and being what's

26:53

awesome about you, you can get

26:56

support and help for all of the

26:56

other pieces. I mean, well,

27:00

you're a classic example like

27:00

your perfect people can come on

27:03

to Angel Rated. It is Angel

27:03

Rated. I was thinking that was

27:07

just the podcast, okay, people

27:07

can come on to Angel Rated and

27:10

they can find all kinds of

27:10

people to help them with their

27:13

business. And so you just have

27:13

to focus on what it is that you

27:17

like to do what you're good at,

27:17

and go from there.

27:21

Don't get stuck,

27:22

don't get stuck,

27:22

move forwards and stay out of

27:25

your own way. Because honestly,

27:25

that's the biggest part of it.

27:28

Right? It's we get in our own

27:28

way by the noise in our head

27:31

telling us what we can and can't do.

27:33

Absolutely. And we Yeah, we double guests ourselves all the time and think

27:34

of a million reasons why we

27:38

can't do something and not all

27:38

the good reasons why we can do

27:41

it. Yep. It's been so fab of

27:41

having you on here. Tracie, I've

27:44

been really interested to learn

27:44

more about your lifestyle and

27:47

about your business. Any last

27:47

thoughts, any social media

27:51

handles anything else you'd like to share?

27:53

If you go to my

27:53

website, check my website,

27:56

you'll find links to all this

27:56

stuff. So that's all good. I

27:59

should be more present on social

27:59

media than I am. So you can find

28:04

me using the launch tech made

28:04

easy handle, you'll find me but

28:07

I just loved chatting about

28:07

launches and chatting through

28:10

helping people break through

28:10

those barriers, especially with

28:12

their tech. Like I said, I'm not

28:12

a coach, I'm sort of a just do

28:16

it kind of person. Like just get

28:16

it done. Like it's time. So I

28:20

don't do any coaching. But if

28:20

you have like a tech problem, or

28:23

you need to talk through

28:23

something, you can book a call

28:25

on my website, and I'm happy to chat.

28:27

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28:27

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