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a couple of absolutely self-involved bull... Here
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are your hosts, John Anick and
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Kenny Florian. You
1:12
know, Kenny, I get my nose
1:14
waxed on occasion. I get my
1:16
ears waxed on occasion. I've never
1:18
had my eyebrows waxed because then
1:20
they look waxed, right? With
1:23
respect to Eddie Alvarez and anybody else out there
1:25
that actually waxed. But you can
1:27
see this eyebrow, I took
1:29
a huge chunk out of my eyebrow
1:31
trying to thin them out this morning.
1:34
So I bring this
1:36
up. I didn't intend to leave the show with this,
1:39
but I've always said if I got like six or
1:41
eight weeks off, I would just completely shave them off
1:43
or wax my eyebrows off and start over because I
1:45
know you can attest to this. You're not nearly as
1:47
hairy a man as I am, but the
1:50
maintenance of hair removal, especially for me as a
1:52
guy who shaves his head all the time. Like
1:54
it's just brutal. Like I'll go to bed, I'll
1:56
wake up and I have one eyebrow instead of
1:58
two. And like
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10 weeks off, I would just wax them off
2:02
completely, but people say they may never grow back.
2:04
But if you notice a chunk out of my
2:07
eyebrow, my daughter, Tatum was like, can you borrow
2:09
Nauti's eyebrow pencil and like color that in and
2:11
I'm not gonna do that. I'm not
2:13
gonna do that. A little fit, a little fit on
2:15
that side. Sometimes we overdo it, man. But it looks
2:17
like I kind of took one of the eyebrows and
2:19
put it underneath my nose. I got this kind of
2:22
crappy mustache that, you know, like the
2:24
ultimate judge is kind of my daughter.
2:27
Like I remember I showed up. I was probably
2:29
like younger than two and had a mustache on
2:31
and she started crying. She was like, no,
2:33
daddy, no, no. She just and now
2:36
she's like, it's a beautiful mustache. You
2:38
know, trutras all in on the mustache.
2:40
I probably won't have it too long.
2:43
But here we are, man, a little bit of switching of the roles, I think.
2:46
Yeah, you're you're cleaned up. Although I will
2:48
say, I mean, I don't know if you
2:50
can look to your left for a minute.
2:52
Does anybody see the locks flowing on Ken's
2:54
neck right now? You got a jig and
2:56
I fucking grown that shit out of what
2:58
I got. I got some legs down. Yeah,
3:00
I don't know. Yeah, some point. I'll let
3:02
it go. What is about the long hair?
3:04
She likes the long hair. I'm also thinking
3:06
like, I don't know how much longer I'm
3:08
going to have this hair, you know, like
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blow the hair guy, you know, like that.
3:12
That might be a that might be a
3:14
distant memory. So at this point, I'm trying to let it
3:16
go as long as I can. Losing some
3:18
of the I got the five head going on. So
3:20
trying to keep it, trying to keep it going. Well,
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you look pretty young. It's great to be back with you and
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everybody else Monday, January 29, 2024. It
3:28
is episode 463 of the Anakin Florian
3:30
podcast. And this weekend begins a stretch
3:32
Kenny of 11 straight Saturdays
3:34
with a UFC live event. As
3:37
most of our viewership knows, since
3:39
the UFC signed a television contract
3:41
with ESPN in 2019,
3:43
there have been some dark patches in December
3:45
and January. Some of that I think has
3:47
to do with college football inventory. But you
3:50
know, we hit it hard with the pay-per-view two straight live
3:52
events to begin January. And then the bye week and fans
3:54
are like, what am I going to do with my stuff?
3:57
And now we have a stretch of 11 straight Saturdays
3:59
with a UFC live event, April 20 is
4:01
the next Saturday, the week after UFC
4:03
300. That's
4:06
the first week from here until then that there won't
4:08
be a UFC live event. So that is very exciting.
4:10
And to that end, we got Paul Felder coming up
4:12
here in about 15 minutes, but I want to get
4:15
into some of the UFC 300 stuff is I, if
4:17
I could, because it's crazy as we sit
4:19
here 10 weeks out, we
4:22
do not have a main event for UFC 300. Now
4:24
the UFC has put out some things graphically
4:26
to suggest that we are waiting on a
4:28
main event, whether it'll be for an undisputed
4:31
UFC championship or not. I don't know. But
4:33
if you go through the men's divisions and
4:36
it does tie in perhaps to Conor McGregor and
4:38
Michael Chandler, Connor pushing out a tweet saying McGregor
4:41
on 300 seals the deal.
4:43
So maybe there's a window of hope that
4:45
Connor and Chandler could headline. But
4:47
Kenny, when you go through the men's divisions,
4:49
right? Flyweight, doubtful, Alejandro
4:52
Pantoja, Bantamweight UFC 299,
4:54
featherweight UFC 298. It's
4:56
not going to be Islam Akashiv, perhaps because
4:58
of Ramadan. And we already have seen sort
5:00
of the way the lightweight division has been
5:03
laid out with Armand Sarukian and Charles Olivera,
5:05
Justin Gaethje, Max Holloway. So you
5:07
got welterweight, Leon Edwards versus
5:09
Bela Muhammad, middleweight, depending on
5:11
Drake's, Duplessi's relative health, and
5:13
then light heavyweight. And
5:15
of course, the champion is Alex Pudeta.
5:17
And there are rumblings of a UFC
5:19
pay-per-view in Rio de Janeiro
5:22
on May 4th. And perhaps Alex Pudeta
5:24
would be held for that date. So
5:26
we sit here now, Ken Flo. And it's not going to be
5:28
the heavyweight division either, by the way, because John Jones is on
5:30
the men. So we sit here now without
5:33
a main event. And I'm just not sure that
5:35
it's going to be an undisputed UFC championship. I
5:37
think it might be Conor McGregor, Michael Chandler, Conor
5:39
McGregor, Nate Diaz. I don't know. But
5:41
I think by this time next week, we'll probably have an
5:43
answer. Well, here's the thing. Conor McGregor versus anybody is going
5:45
to be the biggest fight you could put on UFC 300,
5:48
right? I assume,
5:50
you know, him and Chandler, if
5:52
there's going to be a non-title flight as a
5:54
main event, it would be that one, right? That's
5:56
probably the only choice. I think they
5:59
might be leading. towards a DDP, Adesanya
6:01
fight, I think that's probably the one
6:03
that I am most intrigued by. And
6:07
as far as title fights, I think that's probably
6:09
the biggest title fight that you can put on
6:11
at this point. Now, I definitely want to see
6:13
the Balaali on Edwards fight, but if they're trying
6:15
to blow it out, just from a marketing standpoint,
6:17
from what we've seen in the past, you
6:20
got to think that Adesanya being the big pay-per-view
6:22
star that he has been for the organization, that
6:26
that fight against DDP would be the one
6:28
to make. Now, it all depends on how
6:30
healthy both of those individuals are. That
6:33
would be my pick, but certainly, you know, if
6:35
the UFC is looking at it and Chandler and
6:37
Connor are available, then that would be the one
6:39
to do. I mean, the cards already stacked. It's
6:42
almost like, do they need a main event at
6:44
this point? I think they'd
6:46
be just fine, but I think the
6:48
UFC is looking to really stack that
6:50
with one championship fight. And yeah,
6:53
I hope it's Adesanya and DDP. That would be
6:55
fantastic. Now, you can be
6:57
sure that Dana White and Hunter
6:59
Campbell want to do right by Michael Chandler,
7:01
who has been nothing if not a
7:03
promotional soldier. But
7:06
if you could put together a fight between Conor
7:08
McGregor and Nate Diaz, the fan base would go
7:10
batshit crazy. But I do hope that they do
7:13
right by Chandler, and Michael Chandler has responded in
7:15
kind. You know, Conor McGregor has been out two
7:17
and a half years if he's healthy. Why are
7:19
we waiting until UFC 302? Not
7:23
to also talk about Drake is due Plessy in
7:25
this equation, because we had his manager, Danny Rubenstein,
7:27
on our show last week. And he sort of
7:29
suggested that while UFC 300 would be
7:31
a massive payday, a big
7:33
part of the financial gains for DDP are going
7:35
to be rooted in successfully defending the title and
7:37
making a defense or two as a champion. So
7:40
expediting his first title defense or rushing
7:43
into it on one leg potentially would
7:45
not necessarily be the
7:47
preferred option for them. I do want to read a
7:49
quote here from Kamsa Chimaia, because I do think in
7:52
some part, he factors into this equation, whether or not
7:54
people think he is worthy of a middleweight championship opportunity
7:56
or not. Here's the quote from Hamzaat, all
7:58
these guys have fought each other and only me is. undefeated on
8:00
disputed. They promised me after the Usman fight, I will fight.
8:03
I will for sure fight for the title. I won that
8:05
fight. So I don't know what's going on. I heard Dana
8:07
White say, I don't think comms out as next for the
8:09
title. That's bullshit, man. If you promise me something, you have
8:11
to answer it. In my mind, it should be me. So
8:13
we'll see what happens, right? If
8:15
I had to make a guess right now, I do think
8:18
Drake is do plus C is going to be fighting out
8:20
of the red corner and the last fighter to walk at
8:22
UFC 300. But it's really an interesting
8:24
proposition. Now, I was at my twin brother's house
8:26
today and I couldn't find the genesis of these
8:28
rumors. But he was talking about
8:30
some situation whereby Leon Edwards would remain the
8:33
welterweight champion, but the UFC would make that
8:35
the 175 pound division and
8:37
then maybe create a title at 165
8:40
pounds. And maybe you have Conor McGregor and Michael Chandler fight
8:42
for that bacon title. Now, a lot of MMA fans hear
8:44
that and they probably want to throw up in their mouth.
8:48
The UFC can really do whatever they want.
8:50
They created a BMF title and a
8:52
lot of people turn their nose up at a
8:55
championship belt or a belt for the baddest motherfucker
8:57
on the planet. But that has worked out pretty
8:59
well. I mean, we've talked
9:01
about this years ago, John. I remember me
9:04
talking about it. And again, I don't work
9:06
for the UFC anymore. I'm not trying to
9:08
push this agenda or anything like that. But
9:10
I talked about this a long time ago,
9:12
how I thought that the sport
9:15
in general should move away from this
9:17
welterweight class of 170 pounds and
9:19
that every division probably should be
9:21
separated by 10 pounds. Even have
9:23
a 195 pound
9:25
weight class, something like that. If
9:29
the UFC can support it, which I think they
9:31
can. But yeah, I think that
9:33
it probably makes more sense to go from 185,
9:35
175, 165,
9:38
155. Now, the
9:41
timing of this is interesting. I don't know
9:43
if they're going to go this route. I
9:45
think there's probably other things that they would
9:47
need to establish. Perhaps, I don't know enough
9:50
about that. But I do think logistically and
9:52
logically, it makes more sense to have these
9:54
divisions. Whether they do that or not, whether
9:56
they do that to accommodate Chandler
9:59
and Koshy. I don't, I
10:01
guess, you know, remains to be seen. So
10:03
I believe Conor McGregor's last win, correct
10:06
me if I'm wrong, was Donald cowboy
10:08
ceremony in January of 2020. Now, if
10:10
anybody can fight for a UFC title
10:12
four plus years removed from their last
10:14
mixed martial arts win, it would be
10:16
Conor McGregor. But perhaps that is
10:18
an option. I will say it seems as though
10:21
the UFC women's featherweight division is no more. If
10:23
they have come out and announced the death of
10:25
that division, I have not heard it. But you
10:28
are eliminating a women's division. So perhaps there
10:30
is a window now to
10:32
add another men's division. And I will
10:34
say big picture. One thing
10:36
Lorenzo Fertitta always wanted was to have these
10:39
championship double headers as sort of a fail
10:41
safe mechanism in case you lost a main event
10:43
or a coheadliner that you would always have a
10:46
title fight on pay-per-view. We have had a few
10:48
pay-per-views UFC 291, BMF belt, right,
10:51
but that have not been headlined by an
10:53
undisputed UFC title fight. But those instances are
10:55
few and far between. So I do think
10:57
we are coming to a point Kenny, instead
10:59
of doing 12 pay-per-views a year now doing
11:01
14, the timing might just be
11:04
right to add another men's division. Right.
11:06
Well, I also in looking at the at the
11:08
card, and I assume this is somewhat confirmed, right?
11:11
There's there's nine fights confirmed, I think as of
11:13
right now, UFC 300. So there is space, right?
11:17
There is space to maybe have, you
11:20
know, another title fight or two on
11:23
the card. So interesting. Well, one guy who
11:25
I think really would not mind
11:27
the introduction of a 165 pound division
11:30
in the UFC, one of my dear friends,
11:32
broadcast partner, former UFC lightweight contender, the iron
11:34
lung Paul Fowler. It's great to see you,
11:36
my man. What's up, fellas? What's
11:39
happening, man? We just get off the bike out of
11:41
the pool. What are we doing today? Triathlete. Today,
11:44
I actually just finished setting up one
11:46
of those fancy ice baths with the
11:48
chiller and the thing dude, I'm not
11:50
I'm not a guy. That's good with
11:53
instructions. And Christine, my wife refused to help me.
11:55
She's like, I know that you can do this.
11:57
So I need to not help
12:00
you say you actually go and do it yourself
12:02
and I did. I got the pipes all hooked
12:04
up. Oh nice. And of course I
12:06
did it all wrong the first time around. I had
12:09
to redo all the pipes and all
12:11
that but we are in business
12:13
for cold
12:15
plunge therapy at a you
12:18
know a reasonable temperature because you guys know
12:20
East Coast temperatures right now can get to
12:22
the point where I'm chopping through
12:24
ice to even get to
12:26
that. All the plumber Felder. I love it. And
12:28
then we have a bike and a run today
12:31
guys. An hour and 25 on the
12:33
bike and an hour run afterwards. So
12:36
Kenny was sort of leaning into the
12:38
Wim Hof stuff before cold plunging was
12:40
all the rage right? But there are
12:42
some of us that just don't do
12:44
well with the cold like Belat Muhammad.
12:46
He just doesn't do cold therapy.
12:49
There's much more research for hot
12:51
therapy and the health benefits of
12:53
the sauna than the cold but I think the research
12:55
is going to catch up. There's no doubt it's good
12:57
for you. But Kenny you were leaning into that stuff
13:00
before it was before it was cold. Yeah.
13:02
Well a lot of it was because I
13:04
hated it man. I hated the cold and
13:06
I needed to kind of face that demon.
13:08
So I wanted to learn some techniques
13:10
how to deal with it and face that
13:12
fear and now it feels great. I definitely
13:14
think you know as far from an inflammation
13:16
standpoint it's helpful in that. I think for
13:18
recovery it's pretty helpful in that regard. But
13:21
I also think you know mentally you know the
13:23
ability to stay calm and composure and
13:25
be comfortable with the uncomfortable. I
13:27
think that's where most of the benefits
13:30
lie. So and then of course you know there's a
13:32
lot of other benefits you
13:34
know that they're talking about medically in
13:36
regards to strengthening your immune system etcetera
13:38
etcetera. So yeah.
13:42
Yeah I think that's what it is. Yeah
13:44
it's 57 degrees in South Florida today. I
13:46
could jump in my pool and get some
13:48
sort of effect. It's probably good because they
13:50
say you know when you see a lot
13:52
of these guys Ryan Kefaro is a good
13:55
friend of mine is always posting chopping through
13:57
his chopping through his ice out in his
13:59
backyard in Jersey. But they
14:01
say below 40, there's
14:04
no more benefits to it. You know
14:06
what I mean? Right. It's cold
14:08
enough at that temperature that if it's
14:10
right around freezing, you're just
14:12
showing off. Right. Right. Well,
14:15
like the sauna is the same thing, right? 172 to 174 is sort of as hot as you need
14:17
it. Right. And
14:20
I don't know why I'm trying to pull out my
14:22
dick and set it to 180 degrees. That's good. All
14:24
right. But you
14:26
might think it's a little bit comedic. But I
14:28
thought we had officially changed your nickname from the
14:30
Irish dragon to the iron lung. So
14:33
I'm watching the feature on the broadcast
14:35
when Frankie Edgar's Hall of Fame announcement
14:37
took place and you were featured prominently
14:40
in that piece and they fonded you
14:43
as the Irish dragon. So I'm just
14:45
looking for a nickname update here before we get into the meat of the interview.
14:48
You know, the disrespect of the U of T. You
14:51
tell them that you're changing your name.
14:54
You tell them you want to fight potentially.
14:56
They don't care, John. They just don't
14:58
care. They want me at the booth
15:00
with you or Brendan doing my damn
15:02
job. Shut up Irish dragon and sit.
15:04
Sit. Sit. All
15:07
right. Well, I'm going to go back to you
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as far as an issue. A few things that
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we want to get to with you, but I do
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not here. And then we go back to the
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Registry, Bahamas. I want
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to get into at least the Strickland-Duplessis fight
16:41
and your thoughts on it. I know Kenny
16:43
has some thoughts on your personal stuff and
16:46
UFC 300 and everything else, but Sean Strickland,
16:48
Drakus-Duplessis, are you watching that sort of in
16:50
the middle of the night on the East
16:52
Coast, one eye open? And what were your
16:54
thoughts on that middleweight championship fight? You know
16:56
exactly how it is and that's exactly what
16:58
was going on. And I was entertained and
17:00
I was watching and it was back and
17:02
forth, but again, honestly, five
17:04
rounds before it, right into another five-round fight,
17:07
it was so tough to fight. But man,
17:09
listen, I think when these fights are like
17:11
that, nowadays it's so cool and
17:15
so popular for everyone to scream
17:18
robbery, to scream this. When a
17:20
fight is competitive like that and two guys go and beat the
17:22
crap out of each other for 25 minutes,
17:24
and you always talk about it, John, you can't say,
17:27
oh well, you got to beat the champ to take,
17:29
it doesn't work like that. The judges don't score fights
17:31
like that. They score them one at a time and
17:33
then whoever has the most rounds at the end of
17:35
the fight with the most points wins the
17:37
fight. So I don't think you can argue it.
17:39
And what's this, did this actually
17:41
happen where Sean, after the fight, had
17:43
said to Duplessis that he thought
17:45
he won? I saw quoted that Duplessis
17:47
had said that. Yeah, Drakis,
17:50
I guess, said that this week,
17:52
Kenny. Duplessis is... If That's the
17:54
case, then it's like, man, there's no argument.
17:56
If you, if your gut feeling after a
17:59
fight like that... You to immediately tell the
18:01
guy that you think that he won the right. Price.
18:03
Lost the fight. right? There always
18:06
malaria save with different takes like that.
18:08
Like some of the bias people are
18:10
like you could tell when would be
18:12
ricotta. Now the decision Dd P knew
18:14
that he lost the like I got.
18:17
Like. Seen it on
18:19
after the fact may be thought that.
18:22
That. Inadvertent head but cause the cost
18:24
and so maybe that was something that he
18:26
leaned in a little bit more into after
18:28
the fact that do plus he has been
18:30
the truth teller like every step of the
18:32
way and there's really no reason for him
18:34
to lie about that. I don't know why
18:37
he would do that, so are certainly an
18:39
entertaining if. A touch controversial middleweight
18:41
championship fight to begin the year, but
18:43
I. Yeah. We'll see what happens from
18:45
there, but even so, what's next for the guys
18:47
using? right? That's where we were talking
18:50
about. A little bit tricky because Drake is do
18:52
Plus he was wise to not rush into a
18:54
title fights with is your lot of Sania last
18:56
year in September on one foot. But.
18:58
Now he's he's banged up and I understand
19:00
the value of your c three hundred payday
19:02
as you do Paulie but like he's trying
19:05
to maintain status as the champion so the
19:07
I would think. Ten. Weeks from our
19:09
April thirteenth would be. Oh advice given the travel in, everything
19:11
else on on on. Yeah. I
19:13
I I agree. I think you hold on
19:15
their belt you you dear little parade and
19:17
mean people are loving him Yet a huge
19:19
a welcome back home I in. Wait,
19:22
Until the time is right because. It.
19:24
Big Amelie. It is our chance that eventually
19:26
they takes up a fight down to South
19:29
Africa and have a yes the headline and
19:31
defend their that would be either first time
19:33
in Africa to right. Yeah. There
19:35
are rumors by the way, the damn hooker turned over to you
19:37
after your main event in Auckland and said paul yeah I know
19:39
you one that. I
19:42
thought my hand when I retired in the
19:44
case so I was assured that was just
19:47
a gesture of be nice but and nosy
19:49
Cody their yes I did when sex going.
19:52
Edu cigar I won that one for. To do
19:54
that now feels like a million years ago At
19:56
this point of view that was. You know it's
19:58
one of those things. Where was just yesterday and
20:00
Kenny I'm sure you can. Attest his
20:03
rivals like you feel like you're in
20:05
there ten minutes ago. He. And next
20:07
thing you know, it's been seven. Yeah
20:10
for. Sure a great. So.
20:12
We came on the air after Jim Miller
20:14
called you out for U S C three
20:16
hundred and Kenny felt like that was the
20:18
right fight to make and I think a
20:20
lot of fans were receptive to at. The
20:23
only thing that I felt like was may be
20:25
working against you as if they thought it was
20:27
just a one off for. Yeah, right. Like if
20:29
they felt like you were going to be back
20:31
for two or three and try to regain your
20:33
status as a top a lightweight in the world.
20:35
I think that fight might have been made instead
20:37
of Bobby Green so I know it's probably a
20:39
little bit difficult for you to talk about, but
20:41
ah, what were your thoughts on on Bobby Green
20:43
getting that fight when I when you were the
20:46
first name on the tip of Jim Miller? Stop.
20:48
Well. Fortunately for me, that night,
20:50
I. Reached
20:52
out to who matters right now. Reached out
20:54
to Sean Am. We're.
20:56
Out to dinner I was like, let me at least just. See.
20:59
If it's even on the table before I
21:01
get all excited the media talk to me.
21:03
I'm like all men this might actually happened.
21:05
You start getting those butterflies that nervous feeling
21:07
like wanted to go hit pads right then
21:10
and now. Meet me in on maybe I
21:12
am. Homes do this. On,
21:14
but the only reason I was reluctant in the of
21:16
posts white thing that I did too. It's like you
21:19
don't want to go out and just make that decision
21:21
right them in their front of when that's foolish I'm
21:23
I'm an adult. I know that I should go home.
21:26
Talk. To Everyone makes everyone's on board first
21:28
before I commit you. Getting into a
21:30
training camp for the first time years. But.
21:33
Before that even got to that point, I
21:35
talked to Sean. He's like man we're looking
21:37
the give him. Something. Closer
21:39
to the top ten's what? What mean Dana think
21:41
is is right for him and I was like
21:43
okay I am united. There's.
21:46
Nothing else to be said. I can argue. I'm not
21:48
gonna. Ah, I'm. So
21:50
I never even got the ball rolling into writing
21:52
that was gonna happen by I was it really
21:54
wasn't a good all acting like an adult man.
21:57
I was your first mistake club. you're
21:59
right You're right. If
22:01
I had been brash and started sleeping in the
22:03
gym, this and that, like, I'd have probably gotten
22:06
the fight, but instead of- Take the suit off,
22:08
walk it to the office, yeah. Yeah.
22:11
I should have charged the cage. That was a
22:13
new headline for sure. Well, I
22:15
try to be as objective as possible, believe
22:17
it or not, even in terms of like,
22:19
Belau Muhammad's candidacy, right? It has nothing to
22:22
do with our friendship. It has everything to
22:24
do with him being the number one contender.
22:26
But I will say, I feel like Paul's
22:28
career is criminally underappreciated. I feel like you
22:31
are an underrated lightweight and always
22:33
were. And when I see like
22:35
Benoit Santini get the Dustin Poirier
22:37
fight, I'm happy for
22:40
BSD. I'm happy that Dustin
22:42
Poirier is accepting that fight because
22:44
he understands he's the underdog and
22:46
he wants that challenge. But it's
22:49
frustrating for me that the Poirier and
22:51
Gaethje fight, both of those fights that
22:53
in my mind you earned, you never gotten them. Benoit Santini
22:55
barely with a number next to his name is getting that
22:57
fight. Yeah. I think
22:59
that's what frustrates me looking back, right? Where
23:01
I was that guy, right? I was that blood
23:03
and guts guy. I was the one that was
23:05
really trying to- Sorry, did I
23:07
get glitchy there? Was that me? You're
23:10
good. All right. And yeah, it's like
23:12
people love him, they get behind him and then they're
23:14
supporting him getting those bigger fights. But when
23:17
I was trying to do that, you're right. It was like,
23:19
oh, it was like, I shouldn't have
23:21
even been thinking that. It was
23:23
delusional for me to think that being on
23:25
a three fight win streak should get you
23:27
somebody in the top 10 or top
23:30
15 after going for fight
23:32
of the night, all these bonuses,
23:34
all this kind of stuff. But no,
23:37
now that's okay. And Benoit's
23:39
got that. But listen, I'm one of his biggest
23:41
fans for sure. Benoit Santini. I think that guy
23:43
is an absolute
23:46
maniac. But yeah, dude, it sucks. But
23:49
what can I do? I've got the job that
23:51
I wanted. I
23:53
still be a part of the game. If I really
23:55
wanted to come back, I still could. I've been talking
23:58
to you about potential ideas. Right.
24:00
We were throwing around the Matt Brown idea and I'm
24:02
like, I don't know if that's the fight. I'm a
24:04
lot smaller now. It would definitely be smart to stay
24:06
at 155. And
24:08
Paul, you're still training. Like how many days
24:10
a week are you doing stuff these days?
24:13
Well, it's mostly triathlon stuff but I'm still
24:15
training two to three times a day, putting
24:18
in like 15 to 20 hours a
24:20
week of endurance training and I could
24:23
easily just start going right into the
24:25
gym and training again. And when I've done it, I'm
24:28
still, it's still there. I
24:30
just have to get used to getting the
24:32
bumps and the bruises and condition the body up for that
24:34
kind of thing. I would still want a good 10 to
24:37
12 weeks before a fight just to make sure
24:39
that I'm getting a few rounds of
24:41
sparring in. Is it
24:43
feeling okay? And then go from there. But I
24:45
wouldn't go crazy with the sparring either, Kenny, at
24:47
this point. Like I would do
24:50
a lot of timing stuff, I think, to make
24:52
sure that I was sharp and seeing things coming
24:54
at me. But as far as taking the hits,
24:56
I'd probably limit that to like maybe once a
24:58
week where I'm putting the bigger gloves
25:01
on and actually sparring. Yeah,
25:04
man. I think that's a smart approach at this
25:06
point. You know, you train with some killers, man.
25:08
Joe Piper, Sean Brady, are a couple names that
25:10
come to mind. I know you got some other
25:12
guys that are coming up. Out of
25:14
those guys that you're training with, how many
25:16
of those guys do you see becoming
25:19
a potential world champion in the future? I
25:21
think if Sean stays where he's at mentally, I
25:25
think that Bilal really
25:29
was what he needed, honestly. He needed to
25:31
face a guy like Bilal who's
25:34
at the tippy top, who's kind
25:37
of felt disrespected that he couldn't get what
25:39
he wanted. And he took him on
25:41
anyway. And I think a lot of people were favoring Sean
25:43
and it didn't go his way. He had to go overseas.
25:45
He had to do a lot of the things that fighting
25:47
are, it's tough. And he got through
25:49
that and then comes back and gets a huge win.
25:52
I really do think he's got potential to be fighting
25:54
for the belt someday. I think Joe
25:56
Piper, he's so young. If he just doesn't try
25:58
to rush to the top, like, we see a
26:00
lot of guys do. I think
26:03
he hits so freaking hard, man. I mean,
26:06
I know I'm a 55er and he's an
26:08
85er, but I've been hit by 85ers
26:10
many, many times and sparring. You
26:13
can just tell when someone's got the
26:15
gift, right? And he's got the gift.
26:17
There's no doubt. I mean, in that
26:19
room, Jeremiah Wells is in that room.
26:22
Andre Piotrowski comes in trains. Pat Sabatini
26:24
is in there. There's some foreign
26:26
guys that are coming through and spending time there.
26:29
And I was joking with John
26:31
Marquez, the guy that runs Marquez MMA and is most
26:33
of their head coach and their head striking coach. And
26:35
I was like, dude, when you start getting the stands
26:38
to start coming to your gym and migrating
26:40
the Kyrgyzstan, whatever,
26:42
if they're feeling
26:45
in your gym and wanting to come and train with you,
26:47
you know, something's
26:49
going right. Sean Brady certainly
26:51
looked like a future world champion his last time out. You
26:53
were listening to the Iron Lung Paul Felder with us here
26:55
on the Nx4N podcast. Are you working, by the way, this
26:57
weekend or what? No, man, I'm
27:00
not working until Mexico City. All
27:02
right, Mexico City, February 24. That's a
27:04
great show. If any broadcaster can handle
27:06
the high altitude, before I let you
27:08
go. How
27:12
high is it? Seven over seven? Yeah.
27:15
We were talking how Duke Class C trains at north of
27:18
four lives at north of 4000 feet. And
27:21
I meant to bring it up on the broadcast, right?
27:23
Probably something that should have been a That's
27:25
right at that sweet spot. If you're sleeping
27:27
above 4000 feet consistently,
27:30
anytime you go
27:32
down from that, you're going to feel like
27:35
a machine. It's very South Africa. Yeah. 3900.
27:39
Yeah. And depending on where you are,
27:41
900, sorry, 3900. Yeah.
27:44
But in Pretoria where he is, it
27:46
is like 4300. But yeah, parts of
27:49
Johannesburg are 6000
27:51
feet above sea level. But I did find
27:53
it interesting. And Paulie and I have talked so much about
27:55
triathlons that respectfully, when you did
27:57
address the media, you know where I'm going. You
28:00
addressed the media after the Jim Miller
28:02
callout. I think you were asked about
28:04
triathlons and the Diaz brothers. And I
28:07
just don't think people quite understand
28:09
just how close to being
28:12
like a tried and true professional
28:14
triathlete Paul is. I mean, the guys at
28:16
the elite level, I know you'll always be
28:18
chasing. But with the others,
28:20
like Paul Felder would probably beat
28:23
those guys by an hour, if not more.
28:26
I think an hour is probably
28:28
because I think they could probably do it.
28:32
And I don't know. I mean, I'm talking shit.
28:34
But I don't know how many 70.3s
28:37
they do in general. And
28:39
that's my main race. Let's say we even
28:41
race them in an Olympic distance. So the
28:44
only place I see them maybe beating me, I don't know what
28:46
their swim is like. Obviously swimming is
28:48
my weaker point. But John, I'm
28:50
putting the time in and the numbers are starting to
28:53
come down on my like hundred pace.
28:55
Oh yeah, dude? Would you do cannabis
28:58
for those triathlons? Huh, Paul? Huh? Let's
29:01
see, you get on their level and then let's have a race.
29:04
Yeah, I mean, if we
29:06
smoked a blunt beforehand, they probably beat me. I
29:08
just need a floaty. I'll
29:12
be good. I'm trying to be still
29:14
a ride on a bike. Where the
29:16
soda's at? That's what I'm
29:18
into. Right. But other than that, yeah,
29:20
I mean, John,
29:22
you know, I'm crazy. I mean, Christine, I
29:24
drive her nuts because I'm training for these
29:26
things as if I'm a professional. Unfortunately, there's
29:29
no money coming in. I'm not a professional.
29:31
But David Tilbury Davis, my coach, works
29:34
with a ton of really good pros.
29:37
I'm really good friends with Lionel Sanders, who's one
29:39
of the best professional men out
29:41
there. And these guys
29:44
are, I'm nowhere near those guys. But as far
29:46
as the age group guys, I'm
29:48
getting to the top. I hope to
29:50
get an age group win now
29:53
that I'm going to be 40 to 44 now. So
29:55
now, these dudes, there's still, there's less.
30:00
I'm a really, really good guys in that age group than when I
30:02
was in 30s. But some
30:04
of these 40 year olds that have like
30:07
already established their careers where former college athletes
30:09
are getting into this shit and they're so
30:11
freaking athletic. Wow. Ridiculous.
30:14
Well, I probably shouldn't beat them all up though. I can beat them all up.
30:17
I was going to say, I probably shouldn't say this
30:19
on an MMA podcast, but I am more invested, if
30:22
not, well, as invested
30:24
in your triathlon careers. I am in your
30:26
MMA career, but I do hope we see
30:28
it. I'm glad to hear that because you
30:31
are in the minority on that. I
30:33
put in my post pictures or
30:35
the little videos of me on the trainer in the
30:37
garage. To me, I'm like, man, look at the watts
30:39
that I'm putting out. It's almost sweat I got going
30:41
on. You guys realize how fast I'm going on this
30:44
fake fight that's actually taking
30:46
me nowhere except for destroying my
30:48
quads on a daily basis. Yeah.
30:51
But yeah. When I talk NFL with
30:53
my twin brother, people don't want to hear it. So
30:55
congratulations, Paul Felder on the recent induction into the CFFC
30:57
Hall of Fame. I do hope to see you at
31:00
some point in the octagon. Stay healthy, my man. And
31:02
I'll see you on this crazy UFC road show in
31:04
the not too distant future. We appreciate a few minutes,
31:06
my brother. Thank you guys. Thanks
31:08
for having me, man. It's been nice chatting. Kenny, good to see
31:10
you, dude. Good to see you, bro. There
31:13
we go, folks. The Iron Long, Paul
31:16
Felder. I will take it up with Michael
31:18
LaPlante and Zach Candido. Year two, four, no
31:20
longer to be founted as
31:22
the Irish dragon. All right. When
31:25
do I miss this guy after an emotional weekend?
31:27
Let's get to the star of the show, the
31:29
Ray Longo Minute. Now
31:31
time for the Ray Longo Minute. That's what
31:33
I want. The
31:36
Ray Longo Minute. Starring
31:38
Ray Longo. This is John Enoch
31:41
and Kenny Florian podcast.
31:44
What'd you do? Back
31:47
to the top. What's that everybody? Who's sitting on the
31:49
toilet? I love it. Really? I'm
31:52
taking a dump. I hope you guys
31:54
don't. I think after your
31:57
round first this week, taking a shit while they
31:59
do the podcast. This is the worst thing that
32:01
could happen. See what happens when
32:03
I take a break from smoking cannabis. That's what happens.
32:07
First you attack me and then you went on the rink.
32:09
What the hell was going on with you? I
32:11
feel bakers when I was talking to you.
32:14
I didn't realize the severity of
32:16
what was going on. And then guys in
32:18
the gym were walking over and it's, he's quick. He's
32:20
doing football. And what are you talking about? So,
32:24
yeah, that's the whole gym. You happy? Yeah,
32:27
I know. I don't
32:29
even really know what to say. Uh,
32:32
certainly when we got off the air
32:34
last Wednesday, I didn't even
32:36
remember necessarily that rant nor saying it, but
32:38
I understand now, I think a little bit
32:41
more acutely, the power of my
32:43
words and, uh, perhaps making
32:45
a statement and being that apologetic in tone
32:47
was not necessarily the way to go, but
32:49
I just sort of wanted to sort of,
32:51
uh, move on with my life and, uh,
32:54
I have the job that I want and
32:56
I take my relationship with the fan base
32:58
very seriously because. I feel
33:00
like I need to be that conduit as one of
33:02
the forward facing members of this company. And, uh, yeah,
33:05
my life kind of changed over the weekend, but, uh,
33:07
I assure you, I feel the love and support, not
33:10
that I was looking for that at all, but you
33:12
know, my relationship with this roster and the fighters, my
33:15
ardent supporters has never been stronger. And, uh,
33:17
I have to prioritize that overall things, but
33:19
it was, uh, wild fucking 72 hours, Ramon.
33:21
I'll tell you that. Yeah. We'll take that.
33:23
We got through the group therapy session. Let's
33:25
try to move on now. What's
33:28
behind us is not in front of us, John.
33:30
Let's just keep moving forward. Right. What
33:32
happens when you stop smoking, bro? I tell
33:34
you what, I'm actually, uh, I mean,
33:37
it is, you know, well, I,
33:39
we don't have to talk about, but I, you
33:41
know, it was crazy on a, I
33:43
miss the nature of this beast, I think. No.
33:46
Yeah. And I really don't want to dig
33:48
too deep into it, but I just had
33:50
a moment here on the podcast, it wasn't
33:52
really anything more than that. And, uh, I
33:55
Guess it was just a lot of allegations of bias
33:57
in that specific fight. that, that kind of. that me
33:59
off. a tremendous support from the U S C. had
34:02
a launch out my boss great bore sorry and I.
34:04
Were. On Anaheim as I close the same and
34:06
with array of a lot of things I'd like
34:09
to get us and it's just too much group
34:11
was out there was my stuff. What? I yeah
34:13
that's what it jumps. Back.
34:15
No doubt about as the best we
34:17
could do no matter what. So special
34:20
and. Back. To back
34:22
episodes with you in the bathroom. Is
34:24
this gonna be semantically something we're dealing
34:26
with moving forward Will now.i will get
34:28
pictures don't this week we don't at
34:30
this point. I from the store. With.
34:33
That size towards. Those.
34:35
Didn't know it. It's a
34:38
controlled. By. I
34:40
want to look at the rest of it. Be happy to
34:42
says is that. I
34:46
almost had my dog in studio today as
34:49
like a bit thinking that maybe somebody would
34:51
walk in the house and she would start
34:53
barking but I'm so sensitive to noise that
34:55
I didn't I didn't go with it. So
34:57
I want to read you a quote from
34:59
a man who I believe right now, even
35:02
if outside the U S C is at
35:04
the very least a top twenty flyweight in
35:06
the world to me to two to one
35:08
of your long time students walked into your
35:10
gym as a paying customer several years ago.
35:13
His story is tremendous, but. I
35:15
want to read you this quote from Poo Me if we could
35:17
get into him a little bit. If you don't know, go to
35:19
tap algae. Check out his bio. And this is
35:21
a quote. From. Your flyweight booming. A coup
35:23
to. I'm gonna say the same thing. Longo says,
35:25
we can run an experiment right now. Put me
35:27
in the ring with all genres Cantos as an
35:29
experiment with see walks out with the belt. I'm
35:31
telling you you could put me in there with
35:33
any those guys, especially if you give me a
35:35
camp. I'm walking out. The Tories put me in
35:37
their against all Chantry Panto. Just allow grapple him
35:39
all out. strike him, I'll get on the microphone
35:41
and then I'll talk him for the hell that.
35:43
I'll get the commentary booth and talk about how
35:45
I did all that Anyway, I just bring something
35:47
different to the table. It's a different level of
35:49
confidence. It's a different level of technique. It's a
35:51
different level. Of skill. And on top of that when
35:54
I get on the mike, especially when I get on
35:56
that camera, there's a different level of swagger, a different
35:58
level of charisma on the best man. Not top
36:00
fifteen, not top five on number one
36:02
with a bullet. Could
36:07
go posts will post a
36:09
workhorse van be really. I
36:12
would need to talk to be talked out. Don't
36:14
talk for morale. You know he. he scores with
36:16
those guys and. Ah, he gives.
36:18
Everybody says that that's what he believes.
36:20
You know what he believes and points.
36:22
I think that's what do you What
36:24
she's afraid to say. probably. Only.
36:30
Put him in the only. Sports
36:33
or Conical could walk in and win
36:35
the championship. I really believe that. Guys.
36:37
Up to you would really tell
36:39
you that would be heated. probably
36:41
walk in there win the championship
36:43
just because he so strongly in
36:46
the grappling department. And probably going
36:48
to get what he wants. but. I
36:50
don't think that's what they want. You know
36:52
they didn't like Demetrius Johnson. With
36:55
that I think the style. Of
36:57
and I just don't like it so with it's
36:59
a whole thing. I
37:01
know treated think is he can be
37:03
caused a way to beat him. Which.
37:06
I happened to personally think it's very
37:08
exciting, but. I. Love beauty and
37:10
technique in only be like who has
37:12
want to watch than the trees jobs
37:14
have violated the guys. I. Think
37:16
he's the gold for various reasons I
37:18
love and we just watch the guy
37:20
move and watch you listen to talk
37:22
is a great ambassador. Origin was a
37:24
great champion. Botanica.
37:27
You. Can you talk about
37:29
Bow Nickel just for a second in that
37:31
context? Because Nasr Dini more Bob and Roman
37:33
to lead, they are ranked eleventh and eight
37:36
respectfully in the middleweight division. Right now they're
37:38
fighting in the Us the main event this
37:40
weekend, and it stands to reason that Bone
37:42
Aca would certainly be savored over those two
37:45
gentlemen right now. And a Combat Sports said
37:47
and right. So. Do you believe
37:49
oh nickel right now? Could go in there when the
37:51
middleweight championship against Drake is Du Plessis. I
37:54
certainly think it's possible on it
37:56
or. Again, route race right. You know
37:58
what we're looking at skills. And if
38:00
we're rating skills, and we're talking about a
38:02
skill set, Bo Nickle's skill set in
38:05
that division in particular is going to be one
38:07
of the toughest to beat. The
38:10
problem is he doesn't have the kind
38:12
of experience of a DDP or Israel-Otis
38:14
sign, all that stuff, which absolutely makes
38:16
a difference, right? You know, being able
38:18
to do that stuff when it matters,
38:20
when it counts at the
38:22
highest level, when the lights are brightest, all that stuff.
38:24
Now, Bo Nickle has literally
38:27
tens of thousands of matches under his belt since
38:29
he was a kid as a wrestler. So
38:32
he's been in the spotlight. He's been the best wrestler
38:34
in the room since he was a little kid. So
38:36
he knows what pressure is like. So as far as
38:38
performing, I don't see that being a
38:40
problem. But
38:42
absolutely, I think he's one of those guys that
38:44
could do it. I don't think he should do
38:47
it at this stage of the game, get some more fights,
38:49
get some more experience, make sure that when he does get
38:51
the belt, he can keep the belt. But yeah, I do
38:53
think he's that good. I do think he's that talented. Yeah.
38:56
And then, Joe, let me say something. Chris Weidman, when he
38:58
was coming up, what are you, four or five fights? Right.
39:01
He got in the UFC. And
39:03
he didn't fight for the title. He fought the best
39:05
wrestler in the world for the title and
39:08
was pissing off people, making people
39:13
look stupid. And he beat him two times in
39:15
a row. And
39:18
Bo Nickle's, like,
39:20
again, I don't know, I'm assuming the
39:22
mentalities have to be similar since the
39:24
route they went, Bo Nickle's, Zakelud's, obviously
39:27
Trump, Wyman's, Zakelud's, but no, Wyman was
39:29
a street kid too. And I think
39:31
that played into it a
39:34
lot when we were coming up, because he didn't love to fight.
39:36
But I mean, I think he's a perfect example
39:38
of what could happen with
39:41
hardly any fights. And he
39:43
fought the greatest of all time. I think almost,
39:45
you know, he's in the category of that. And
39:48
I think a lot of people defend that. So
39:50
that's where I'm coming from with that. I think
39:52
I've seen it before. And Bo
39:54
Nickle Seems like when I listen to him speak,
39:56
he sees he has the confidence. We Know he's
39:58
got the wrestling chops. I
40:02
was long as a boxing coach. I
40:04
write Ron Perlman their. Find.
40:07
So one of my favorite people in
40:09
the U S C is are handsome
40:11
matchmaker Make Maynard and it happens to
40:13
be his birthday today. so. Happy.
40:15
Birthday, Mit right more ice. You
40:19
mentioned sort of his name in that
40:21
answer about through mean a Khuda and
40:23
it seems like maybe there is some
40:26
promotional pause to sign this flyweight right
40:28
now and. I'm. Curious as to
40:30
why? I mean, he seems to have all
40:32
the skills you mention that maybe they don't
40:34
want to expedite things, but you can certainly
40:36
do worse than brain a man and haven't.
40:38
I'm fight a guy who's top twenty five,
40:40
but I am. I don't mean to push
40:43
on the spot, but I don't quite understand
40:45
the disconnect as to why. seemingly one of
40:47
the best flyweight prospects in all of them,
40:49
A May is not have a median interest
40:51
to the combat sports leading us. Well.
40:53
That's absurd. First about it
40:55
much. Stronger
40:58
was mates. Was surprised at
41:01
a bit of has chart
41:03
shows. It's what's. Right
41:07
and bright was be what I believe I've
41:09
spoken to fill up know problem. With yellow.
41:11
Was far. Speak.
41:13
To his boys. Well, I remember
41:16
Dennis Bazooka and it's a totally different case right?
41:18
But it took him a lot of so to
41:20
break that U S C door down and I
41:22
do think eventually Boom is gonna be and it's
41:24
maybe he'll be better off for a ride as
41:26
he he was born in Nineteen Ninety Five and
41:28
ah, he just has more experience. more high level
41:30
experience than Bow Nickel even right now, despite the
41:32
fact that Nickel has been in the U S
41:34
C. Does he not right? I mean he's got
41:36
more fights. The bone echo. whom. He
41:39
does. I will fight symbolical
41:41
put shows. background speaks for
41:43
itself apart aren't we'll We'll
41:45
see. We'll see what happens
41:47
for ah we know Khuda
41:49
going forward. Ah well as
41:51
you little bit about you
41:53
fc three hundred. If he
41:56
has I do think the fan base. Is
41:58
waiting for. The big shoe
42:00
to drop and that can. He was sort of
42:02
the head of you look at us, see three
42:05
hundred on paper. It looks like the first sight
42:07
of the night to be Jessica on Draws vs.
42:09
Marina Hodge Riga as one woman who has won
42:11
a championship law for a championship in the second
42:13
division against other woman who was headlined at least
42:16
twice for the You Fc And that's the first
42:18
spite of the night so I'm sure you've seen
42:20
some of the headlines. Conor Mcgregor may be dipping
42:22
his toe in the water. What?
42:24
Do you think is going to happen at U S
42:26
C? three hundred and will you feel shortchanged if the
42:28
main of and his offer an undisputed your seats at.
42:33
From the road was honestly
42:36
I enjoy. A fight.
42:38
So I think the war the
42:40
built up. Three. On three
42:42
that of falls short of such as
42:45
of respect and mean it. It's also
42:47
because of weight. They'll
42:49
loss to be disappointed. I'm sure
42:51
what on. You. Know, I
42:53
mean algae was on the corner of
42:56
the joint. all excited about that. Looks.
42:59
Nice. I just. Got.
43:02
Off simple and I really am. I'm single.
43:04
So lively be sure. Church. Wants
43:08
The matchmaking stood. On
43:11
comes to Go on three sides on.
43:13
Out your vs council mean. Less
43:17
or don't really have to concentrate on but on
43:19
bunch of it's okay for you really are a
43:21
really nice like you weren't always that way. We
43:24
lost his podcast in April of two thousand and
43:26
fifteen were coming up on the nine year anniversary
43:28
and maybe you have been that way for a
43:30
decade. You like the as I talk a Mark
43:33
Henry he was on here. It's not like this
43:35
one I did. Your dad does all the things
43:37
and I don't watch and on a path. Where
43:41
did he go for it was different doctors.
43:43
oh no no it. Didn't. Know.
43:46
He'll. Be there! This. Summer but
43:48
know Frankie was probably bang and holler had all
43:50
day and had no idea they were out
43:52
about to send him the media row. Why?
43:56
Wasn't. I China.
44:00
Geico.with Life lock. he always said
44:02
they have to frighten, okay, have
44:05
a special relationship. And he
44:07
always told me after Frankie was
44:09
basically. So. I think
44:11
that's what made that Now you
44:13
know really should serve special. Bad.
44:18
Apple as many books on which is
44:20
why Silhouettes that in the world doesn't
44:22
revolve around and was also try for
44:24
my my boring life it does for
44:27
the of right that's people have other
44:29
things to do with our. I
44:31
knew that them You know I
44:33
really enjoy university take many despite
44:35
he got out also. Ah and
44:37
then In also makes so much
44:39
fucking money making pizza, writing and
44:41
will have and he knows in
44:43
New Jersey Woodbridge code is telling
44:45
me rice like as I, Corey
44:47
Anderson and Kenny for In will
44:49
tell you it's not important to.
44:52
Look. Rich. It's important to be rich
44:54
you know And and Mark Henry probably
44:56
rich at this. That would added done.
44:59
It's the this. By.
45:01
A group was is more important to him.
45:04
More important for Anderson's like Amazon and look
45:06
rich. I'm trying to be rich right? Like
45:08
I drive a fucking many. They are not
45:10
rich. Right next to him and I jotted
45:12
meeting and for more reasons than one. but
45:15
you know we're in the process right now.
45:17
have potentially getting my wife a car that
45:19
she's not perpetually embarrass them right? So training
45:21
in the minivan but I said to or
45:24
maybe I'll trade in the out he asks
45:26
you five which is my car that she's
45:28
really fast but other than that not particularly
45:30
functional. And. I said maybe I'll keep
45:32
the mini van. And. She's like you know
45:35
why? they're like I want to drive a mini that
45:37
like I truly she's like your be job the Yossi
45:39
to Ninety Nine in Miami don't want to take the
45:41
out. He does not mean I want my boss to
45:43
see me pull off in a Honda Odyssey. would know
45:45
rent. A
45:47
list that's a nice. That. Have sex
45:50
with old School. They were guys on copies
45:52
made. they try to bet they both. But
45:54
when they go to work. The. I
45:56
pod so that everybody thinks they're
45:58
not doing good. Right. So
46:01
let me tell you something, I pull up in
46:03
the canny, I'm getting charged more money for some
46:05
reason. No doubt. It's really where the way
46:07
you go, you know what I mean? So it
46:10
is where the way you go. Well I dressed
46:12
like a complete bomb. I mean if you see
46:14
on the wide shot right now, we can barely
46:16
see, I'm wearing like sweatshorts and a tee, like
46:18
my daughters are completely mortified as to
46:20
how I dress. So I looked apart when I get out
46:22
of a minivan that's all beat up. You
46:25
mentioned- I love it. I love it.
46:27
I was wearing yarn but I move
46:29
into the toilet bowl so I
46:31
had a kid. I'm stuck here. So
46:34
it's interesting. I lost a girlfriend, a woman
46:37
that potentially I was going to marry because
46:39
I spoiled a surprise. There were other reasons
46:41
why I lost this woman, right?
46:43
But I spoiled a surprise party but I
46:45
was coming from a good place, right? But
46:49
I ended up spoiling a surprise and she never
46:51
forgave me, right? So Frankie had a dad who
46:53
was going to be inducted into the Hall of
46:55
Fame. My
46:57
bosses would have killed me if I had spoiled the
46:59
surprise but we had Frankie on the show last week
47:01
Kenny and he sort of intimated like, yeah, next time
47:03
like tell me dude, like I'm drinking
47:06
and doing all these things. I think it would
47:08
have been nice for Frankie to have the heads
47:10
up in that particular setting but Ray, it was
47:13
not my position to spoil that surprise for Frankie.
47:15
I think he would have liked to advance notice.
47:17
Well listen, Alicia learned your lesson. You have your
47:19
quick learner. That's good. You know what's wrong with
47:21
that? Sarah, I think it's
47:23
made- I forget which birthday
47:26
it was, Kenny. Well, he had a
47:28
surprise birthday party. His wife was
47:30
throwing it and there was one of
47:32
his instructors, Kenny posted
47:34
something on Instagram that
47:36
gave it away. He never forgave the
47:38
guy. So this surprise party
47:40
thing is, I know where you're coming
47:43
from. I mean, he was really,
47:45
really pissed off because he thought it was done
47:47
on purpose. You know, I'm not mentioning no
47:49
names right now but it was done on purpose. Never
47:52
forgave the guy for that. So you
47:54
blow a surprise birthday party definitely on
47:56
the shit list. So, Kenny,
47:59
I'm like an ex- extroverted introverts
48:01
sort of an introvert in some ways living
48:03
in this extroverted world, you know, but how
48:05
would you feel if somebody threw you a
48:07
surprise party? I think the people close to
48:09
me know that I'm not looking for a
48:11
surprise party. Yeah, I'm not
48:14
a huge fan of surprise surprise
48:16
the general let alone surprise parties.
48:18
I just kind of like, yeah,
48:20
hey. Yeah, man. Yeah, interesting.
48:23
I'm with and John, I'm
48:25
with you. What are you an introverted
48:28
extrovert? I really believe that my way
48:30
through one surprise party from what I
48:32
was 40. I
48:34
was not even like celebrate
48:36
my birthday, especially at this time. I
48:39
mean, it's crazy. So you know, surprise
48:41
parties, I know, I know, know with
48:43
me, but we go out there
48:45
for my birthday. Don't you fucking
48:47
tell the places my birthday cake
48:50
and I got four fucking strong
48:52
bullies fucking wishing me happy birthday. I want
48:55
to kill myself. I died. You
48:58
gotta put your foot down sometimes. That's
49:01
grounds for divorce as far as I'm concerned.
49:03
Don't ever fucking sing to me in a
49:05
restaurant, you know, and my twin brother and
49:08
I will get it like, oh, it's a
49:10
fucking twins, you know, look at the weird
49:12
freak show. They didn't say birthday. You
49:15
got to sit there and make like you're
49:17
happy. Yeah, happy birthday. I'm not that funny.
49:19
Guys came here to eat. That's it. Well,
49:22
right. I
49:25
got one daughter who wants to wear
49:27
like a birthday pageant band around her
49:29
and have the whole restaurant things where the
49:31
others like daddy, please don't tell anybody. I'm
49:34
like, thank you. I don't want to know
49:36
it's your birthday. Hey Ray, I have one
49:38
more thing for you if I could know.
49:41
Aljamaine Sterling always had to go to great
49:44
lengths to make 135 pounds. Maybe
49:47
it was easier when he was fighting Johnny Eduardo back in
49:49
the day, but this is a man who had to go
49:51
to great lengths to make the weight. And now he's competing
49:53
at 145 pounds. Reciprocally,
49:55
we have Kayla Harrison making her
49:57
UFC debut at a hundred and.
50:00
35 pounds and Misha Tate was
50:03
quoted on Sirius XM this week
50:05
and she essentially mentioned the
50:07
time that she remembers when Kayla Harrison was imploring
50:10
the PFL to have a 155 pound division
50:13
chem flow, nevermind making 145 pounds. And
50:16
she says, I guess I'm speaking for personal experience
50:18
because when I went down to 125, although
50:21
I did instill at a pretty decent camp, I just didn't perform
50:23
at my best. And I think Kayla is just used to being
50:25
a big strong woman that she won't have that on her side.
50:27
I'm curious to see how that's going to benefit
50:29
her with someone like Holly who really does move
50:31
so well. Obviously, there's
50:33
the fight before the fight and Aljo's going
50:36
in the opposite direction, but what
50:38
are your thoughts on Kayla Harrison fighting at 135
50:40
pounds and how it potentially could
50:43
impact her performance against someone like Holly Holm?
50:46
Me personally, I think it's going to have a
50:48
big impact. I
50:50
mean, Holly Holm, even though she's getting older, I don't think it's
50:52
a joke. If you ever looked at, I mean, I had a
50:54
buddy of mine show me the line on
50:56
that fight, John. Holly Holm's
50:58
like a plus 385 and I'll take that
51:01
bet all day long, plus 385 for that.
51:04
And this is the first time she's coming down to 35
51:06
and I agree with Mission 8. She's
51:09
used to being kind of the bully in
51:11
there, but I just don't think she fought
51:13
the quality of people that even
51:16
remotely resembles a Holly Holm, even at
51:18
whatever Holly's, what is she, 40 years
51:20
old now? Yeah, over.
51:22
I mean, yeah, think about it, but I
51:24
think Holly Holm is going to pause a
51:26
fit for her at 35. 45,
51:29
I would look at it differently. I
51:32
think that extra 10 pounds like you can, and
51:34
it's always the thing, can
51:37
we go through, you know, can you do one
51:40
thing making the way, yeah, if you're fighting at
51:42
the weight and that's the problem, like, can you
51:44
fight at the weight like you were fighting two
51:46
weeks before? That's the trick to
51:48
me. The guys they tend to always got to do well,
51:50
but the guys that struggle with that, it's
51:53
tough man. Some guys, you know, I don't
51:56
know if he's making 45, I just saw. front.
52:00
No, he's you. I was sitting with
52:02
his, uh, his fiance and I was
52:04
like, his ass is coming
52:06
out of his fucking shorts. Like he's, they
52:08
got you huge. And
52:11
he talks. So he's going to get it
52:13
down. He'll, he'll make 45 easy, but, but
52:15
I'm telling you, Aljo, he might be 180
52:17
right now and he's a minute.
52:19
He's a big Ted man. Kayla
52:22
Harrison minus four 10 on draft King
52:25
Sportsbook Holly home, the plus three 20
52:27
underdog. Misha Tate has
52:29
gone ahead and predicted Holly home. She said, I think
52:31
one 35 is going to really suck the life out
52:33
of Kayla and it's not the best move. And I
52:35
will say Kenny, and you know, there's like, you're betting
52:37
the number and not the fighter, right? So I would
52:40
imagine a lot of handicappers and betters are going to
52:42
see value on Holly home, even before they see Kayla
52:44
way in. Yeah, listen, it's,
52:46
I don't think it's going to be an easy way cut,
52:49
but I would imagine, uh, you know, if
52:51
Kayla, you know, does
52:53
everything like the way she has done, you know, in
52:55
a very professional manner that she has the right people
52:57
around her that they believe that she's going to be
52:59
able to do it and do it well. And then
53:01
that's the key, man. You know, for me, I think
53:03
it all comes down to how well that way cut
53:06
goes. If the way cut goes well, uh, and
53:08
she's able to use that as a positive test
53:10
run. I think she'll be extremely successful and ultimately
53:13
be a champion in that division. Um,
53:15
but that's the big question, question mark
53:17
for me is really making the weight
53:19
Holly is never going to be an
53:21
easy fight for anybody. Um, but, uh,
53:23
you know, Kayla, when, when she
53:25
gets her hands on you, she sees a completely
53:28
different type of woman herself. You know, she is
53:30
as strong as they come and she's
53:32
just so muscular. So, you know, assuming she
53:34
does it correctly, I think she'll be fine.
53:37
Um, but, uh, Holly, Holly's going to be a
53:40
challenge, man. I think she goes out there and
53:42
gets an impressive win over someone like
53:44
Holly. I think people are going to start to
53:46
really pay attention and, and the UFC will kind
53:48
of confirm what I think is a
53:51
true star in that division and Kayla Harrison. Ray
53:54
has Algerman Sterling ever fought at 145 pounds. No,
53:57
not that I know of now. So
53:59
to, What extent are you excited to see him
54:01
compete up there? There's still going to be a
54:03
weight cut, but I'd imagine you're pretty excited. He's
54:06
a slight underdog right now against Calvin Kader coming
54:08
up at 300. Well, what are
54:10
the odds? He's minus 102
54:12
right now. Wow. Pretty close.
54:15
And even fight. Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
54:18
Very excited. Yeah. In
54:20
a couple of weeks, I start to run again every
54:22
month. So, we're going to... It
54:26
is interesting how your schedule has gone.
54:29
Sorry, Ray cut out there for a second. It's
54:32
probably a good time to just bank that interview
54:34
with Ray Longo, but it is interesting how his
54:36
schedule has gone. You
54:38
back with us? No way. You
54:41
back with us? I back with you. I'm sorry, but I
54:43
was going to say... I think people will walk through the airport. No,
54:45
right. And Ray Longo,
54:47
by the way, if you're looking for an update
54:49
on his hip replacement, he is walking pain-free, doing
54:51
everything but kicking in the gym. So, we're happy
54:53
to hear that. But it is interesting how your
54:55
schedule has gone. It seems like it ends up
54:57
being stacked together. And then there's a little bit
54:59
of a respite. But your next big date, obviously,
55:01
is May Rob Tuales, Willie Henry, Sujuto coming up
55:03
in February in the big A. Yes? Oh,
55:06
yeah. Very excited for that. And then I'll tell you
55:08
what, but a good shout out to Marabh, because I
55:10
don't speak to him, obviously. I
55:13
used to put this guy, right? If he's
55:15
writing his own material, I think they're
55:17
blowing something with this kid, so he's
55:20
good, man. Really? I mean,
55:22
I just make it because I know
55:25
him and I watch them kind of
55:27
grow up. I mean, but he is
55:29
hysterical with some of his videos now.
55:31
He's definitely unleashed at
55:33
this point. I think
55:35
he's doing a great job. Kenny,
55:39
I'm so glad Ray brought that up. I
55:41
don't know if you've seen any of what
55:43
May Rob Tuales, Willie, has done recently or
55:45
over the last year or so, but could
55:47
not agree with you more. I mean, everything
55:49
from this guy, waywardly diving into ice and
55:53
women without Joe and ally,
55:55
Quinta in those waters. I
55:57
mean, there are so many.
56:00
Michael Jackson jacket Yeah
56:30
I Thought
56:32
it was I Like you
56:34
can't change, you know, right? There's all
56:36
material man. I give them a plus or whatever's
56:38
right then They give me a plus but I
56:40
get to check out of it. Yeah,
56:42
I would check it out on Instagram a Rob dot Dwallash
56:45
Willie over 2100
56:48
comments on that video that you're referencing so he's
56:50
doing a lot of things right and certainly Resonating
56:53
with the fan base. All right, my man. You got anything else
56:55
before we let you fly? We got a main event this weekend
56:57
not so or Dini mabob Roman deletes a
57:00
You watching obviously I'm watching
57:03
okay wait, I can't wait Well,
57:06
yeah, and have a great
57:08
day and we'll talk to you next
57:10
week Sorry for the
57:13
slight interruptions every so often because I can see
57:15
your face to 20. No Good.
57:18
I'm glad to see you back in a bit. Glad
57:20
to see you back in the good spot. You know,
57:22
everybody loves you you're one of the True
57:25
professionals if not the only professional
57:28
in the business but man just
57:30
your work speaks for itself your passion speaks
57:33
for itself and You
57:35
know what happens? You always got me and Kenny
57:37
you can see shit. That's right. I
57:39
always got you back That's right.
57:41
What else does he mean? You
57:44
don't even fucking know making a comment.
57:46
Yeah I Longo
58:00
Minute every week here on the Anakin Forum
58:02
podcast. Yeah, I'm sure Ken Flo
58:04
last week is like, dude, what a soft pussy.
58:09
Time now to spin this thing forward.
58:11
It is UFC Fight Night De
58:14
Lidze versus Imabob. Let
58:17
us get to Brian Petrie and the main event
58:19
challenge. The
58:31
main event challenge. Anakin
58:34
Kenny Forum Podcast. Ryan
58:37
Morris, signing Face Star to keep you
58:39
waiting, brother. How we doing? I'm doing well.
58:41
That's how you get a Ray Longo Minute right there.
58:44
You get the Ray Longo on the toilet screaming. That's
58:46
how you get in the fucking segment right there. I
58:48
love it. Dude, how about you got
58:50
Chris Curtis putting my broadcast partner, Dominic Cruz, on
58:52
blast? I
58:55
almost, I almost texted Johnny. After
58:58
Chris fights, I always let him breathe a
59:00
little bit, right? I don't, I don't hammer
59:02
him right away. So on Monday I texted
59:04
him and he's like, bro, I've been waiting
59:06
for the text me. How about fucking Dominic
59:08
Cruz? He's going off on cruise. He's like,
59:10
usually it's DC. He's like, there's video of
59:13
me yelling at Cruz. And we
59:15
had a good, good text exchange
59:17
about old DC Dominic Cruz there. I
59:20
would have to watch it back to provide any
59:22
sort of context. I didn't mean to put you
59:24
on the spot. I think maybe, you
59:26
know, part of the issue was these fans
59:29
in that arena were largely spoiled all night.
59:31
And for whatever reason, they did not respond
59:33
favorably to that fight. And so perhaps that
59:35
became part of the narrative, but you know
59:38
me and you know how close I am
59:40
with Tom and dude, just sat in my
59:42
room watching film all weekend. Like there's certainly
59:44
no malice there. And I believe that Eric
59:46
Nick's sick and Dominic Cruz are going to
59:49
connect on that. But I guess
59:51
that's neither here nor there. How are you doing
59:53
man with this week off sort of a slow
59:55
January before we now hit it for 11 straight
59:57
weeks? I'm
1:00:00
gonna confess this I watched I was so bored on
1:00:02
Saturday. I know there's bare knuckle and others LFA I
1:00:05
watched the fucking Royal Rumble, you know, I grew up as a
1:00:07
wrestling fan as a kid I haven't watched
1:00:09
wrestling in 20 plus years I knew the Royal
1:00:11
Rumble was like a big deal and I dozed
1:00:14
off a few times and I support
1:00:16
everyone I watched it to show I know there's a
1:00:18
few followers that watch this they're wrestling. It's not for
1:00:20
me. It's not for me If
1:00:22
it's for you, that's great. It's just not for me. I power
1:00:25
through and I just yeah, it's just it's just
1:00:27
not this is how So
1:00:29
I am so fucking excited that the fights are back
1:00:31
and we have a run So I think
1:00:33
after you go see 300 I think every weekend we got a
1:00:35
we got a we got a show so I'm
1:00:37
a very happy man. All right, my brother.
1:00:40
Well, uh, we're excited to get into some
1:00:42
predictions today I'll update the standings here in
1:00:44
a moment, but we do have a pronunciation
1:00:46
of yeah One of my favorite
1:00:48
segments on the show and nothing
1:00:50
made me happier By the way, I was at
1:00:52
Publix grocery store here in South Florida and there's
1:00:55
this plantain ship company I think it's
1:00:57
called chief lays and they have the
1:00:59
phonetics written on the fucking bag can flow. You know
1:01:01
why? People are going
1:01:03
to keep buying your plantain chips. They probably
1:01:05
need to know how to pronounce The
1:01:09
brand. Oh, what's that? You know chief lady?
1:01:11
I like seeing those phonetics All right. So
1:01:13
Roman DeLede days fighting in the main event,
1:01:15
Brian I feel like this
1:01:17
name gets butchered a little bit. So who is who
1:01:20
is Roman fighting in the headliner this weekend?
1:01:22
So I've done a lot of tape studying this guy
1:01:24
not only for this but he fought Christmas last time
1:01:26
out So i'm probably still gonna get the fucking name
1:01:28
wrong. That's how my brain works Uh,
1:01:31
naser dem emavov is
1:01:33
what i'm going with. All right, Cody.
1:01:35
Let's trigger that audio, sir Nasser
1:01:38
jin just sniper emavov Okay,
1:01:44
nasser jin just sniper
1:01:46
emavov Yeah,
1:01:48
candy circle gets the square for me that's the hip would
1:01:50
be pay you uh, I'm
1:01:53
on board. Oh, yeah, Brian nailed it. Oh,
1:01:55
can he is always the last line of
1:01:57
August integration? It's
1:02:00
a in our tactics and my wife
1:02:02
that you on aug Integrated Defense Instagram
1:02:04
page again I was a have like
1:02:06
thirty videos that I didn't see before.
1:02:09
Sort of follow this company and ah
1:02:11
other day I get all these new
1:02:13
haters now I great job right? Yeah
1:02:15
I do here he will have. more
1:02:18
than Imaavav, so it's really just
1:02:20
about emphasizing that second syllable, Imaavav,
1:02:23
and not Dimaav. Alright, main
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I'm going after the standings. Not an old.
1:02:44
You guys know exactly where you stand. Obviously
1:02:46
the drum. Was. At Plus yeah,
1:02:48
you gotta check my numbers. Your broker? Yeah,
1:02:50
so do. You.
1:02:53
Were plus three hundred and seventy four and dollars
1:02:55
and seventy five cents heading into your seats. You
1:02:57
ninety seven. Minus five hundred number. At
1:02:59
its own in a fight, it could have gone
1:03:01
either way. Minus two hundred on Sean Strickland in
1:03:04
a fight. The could have gone either way. But
1:03:06
plus two hundred and seventy dollars for your one
1:03:08
hundred dollar bet on Neil Magny and then plus
1:03:10
one hundred, Eleven dollars and eleven cents on your
1:03:12
two hundred or three bet on months or a
1:03:14
a boy of so. Minus three, Eighteen eighty
1:03:17
Nine for the. Week but I still have your
1:03:19
you Today toll in the black at fifty Five
1:03:21
dollars and eighty Six cents. Where am I wrong?
1:03:24
That's it. He got have been acting like I'm in
1:03:26
nominal. I don't know. I doubt that can
1:03:28
flow did this mass? Maybe. He did
1:03:30
I get a you were at plus two
1:03:32
hundred and thirty seven dollars and eighteen cents.
1:03:35
Modest. Two hundred on brackets on and modest
1:03:37
one hundred on Arnold Allen The Losers you got
1:03:39
Started out there could have been winning tickets. Yeah,
1:03:41
modest four hundred on my youtube Y no silver
1:03:43
but you did have a big three hundred all
1:03:46
a straight on Drake as you plus the in
1:03:48
that was a plus one fourteen. So you want
1:03:50
three hundred and forty two dollars on that flight
1:03:52
weekly Total: Minus three hundred and fifty eight dollars,
1:03:54
you are down one hundred and twenty dollars and
1:03:57
eighty two cents on the year. Now.
1:03:59
We will get to the pic. for UFC Fight Night, the
1:04:01
Lidzay versus Imaba friendly reminder at the end
1:04:03
of this exercise, you guys
1:04:05
will have $1,000 to make in Beth on
1:04:07
the fight card this weekend. Kenny, any further
1:04:10
questions, your honor? I was going to ask,
1:04:12
do we have to spend all $1,000? Is
1:04:15
that the deal? You do not, right? Right.
1:04:18
Right. What's the verdict there? Yeah,
1:04:20
that's fine. I mean, listen, I'm going
1:04:22
to spend $1,000. I got it. But, you know,
1:04:25
I have no problem with withholding. Kenny's
1:04:27
point, I think what he's saying is, this is a
1:04:29
tough card. I'm not going to lie, this is a
1:04:31
tough card. So
1:04:34
I never leave money in my account, right?
1:04:36
When you have a bookie, you have like
1:04:38
a max limit and that's when it's really
1:04:40
dangerous, right? But when you're betting on an application,
1:04:42
as I am down here in South Florida, hard rock bet,
1:04:45
I make a deposit and then once I
1:04:47
place the bets, that money is gone. So
1:04:50
it works a little bit differently. My account's
1:04:52
always fucking empty. I can't wait
1:04:54
till DraftKings Sportsbook is live here in South Florida. I'm
1:04:56
going to dust. I'm going to waste so
1:04:58
much money. All right. Beatron
1:05:02
Preland at
1:05:04
Strawweight. So Molly McCann, minus two seven
1:05:06
here against Deanna Belbizza who comes back
1:05:08
plus two 20 Brian Meatball, again, dropping
1:05:10
down 10 pounds, making her
1:05:12
strawweight debut and does so as
1:05:14
a fairly big favorite here against Belbizza. Belbizza
1:05:18
reppin house to champion Stoney Creek, Ontario
1:05:20
last fight for her unanimous decision lost
1:05:22
to Carolina Kova, Kavis last October, Brian
1:05:24
Petrie, anything I have for us on
1:05:26
the featured prelims. I
1:05:29
like the weight chain for Molly. She's not, she
1:05:31
wasn't very, very big. I
1:05:33
definitely don't like the weight cuts, you know, especially when
1:05:35
you get older, but I like this move kind of
1:05:37
spice up because listen, they gave her the bus on
1:05:39
Blancefield and she got, she got mowed over. She got
1:05:41
destroyed and then they gave her kind of a layup
1:05:44
with Story Lenko who is very inconsistent
1:05:46
but has one move in the arm bar
1:05:48
and she got caught in the fucking arm
1:05:50
bar. So this is like reset mode. Yo,
1:05:52
this is a winnable fight for her against
1:05:54
Dan and Belbizza who's very, very active, throws
1:05:56
a lot of hands, starting to mix in
1:05:58
takedowns, which is Molly's. Kryptonite I'd say
1:06:00
I think Molly's working on that she comes from a
1:06:02
jujitsu gym So hopefully she can tighten some of that
1:06:05
up, but she won't stand the feet She wants to
1:06:07
land a spinning back elbow. She wants to do all
1:06:09
those things. I think the numbers wide I think you
1:06:11
know if I'm playing harder money I
1:06:13
go but Lisa here, but since
1:06:15
we're picking and I'm not gonna lay money on
1:06:17
this fight. I'm gonna go Molly McCann I love
1:06:19
a good meatball. I love my again. I think
1:06:21
she's gonna Have a harder
1:06:23
shot while my pieces gonna have the more volume
1:06:26
and we'll see how it ends up in the judges I think it's
1:06:28
going to the scorecard. So over two and a half so good play
1:06:30
as well Give me meatball. I
1:06:32
like meatball. I like that extra play
1:06:34
there on the prop Kenny was it the wedding singer
1:06:36
when the meatball gets put in Adam Sandler's hand and
1:06:39
he's like that Yeah
1:06:46
Kenny real quick. I just want to set
1:06:48
up Molly McCann Oh and two since signing
1:06:50
with barstool sports the submission lost one of
1:06:52
which was referenced against Aaron Blanchfield Also,
1:06:55
Yulia Stolio Renko and that was really
1:06:57
follow on about following for Molly What
1:07:00
was like a star turning 18
1:07:02
months in 2021 in 2022? So
1:07:05
a lot of pressure on McCann big number next
1:07:07
to her name. How do you think she fares
1:07:09
here against Bell beats? I think
1:07:12
she should be okay. Bell beta isn't a
1:07:15
Huge threat when it comes to the submission
1:07:17
game. She might be a little bit better
1:07:19
on the ground than McCann You know McCann
1:07:21
certainly is vulnerable there needs to
1:07:24
improve but you got to imagine She's
1:07:26
been working hard on it since her last
1:07:28
flight. I think her takedown defense should hold
1:07:30
up here Bell beta, you
1:07:33
know, is it so big for the
1:07:35
weight class? She doesn't have that knockout
1:07:37
power either So I
1:07:39
think McCann should be the more powerful Fighters
1:07:42
here. I think she's gonna bring a little bit
1:07:44
too much pressure The
1:07:47
bill beats is very tough, but I think this
1:07:49
is McCann's fight to lose. I like McCann here
1:07:52
Why next up at welter weight as we kick
1:07:54
off the main card Gilbert or being a modest
1:07:56
218 taking on Charles rad key plus 180 rad
1:08:00
some of you know the teammate of Belau
1:08:02
Muhammad VFS Academy under Mike Valley there in
1:08:04
Bensonville, Illinois. Belau is going to be in
1:08:06
Radky's corner this weekend. But he's
1:08:08
the underdog here, Bry against Gilbert Urbina, whom I've
1:08:11
never seen fight live, but comes
1:08:13
from a fighting family. Got his first UFC win by
1:08:15
stopping Orion Kosi due to strikes
1:08:17
at a fight night last May. BP,
1:08:20
what do you think here? Radky with
1:08:22
some plus money next to his name or what? Do
1:08:24
you guys smell it? Smell
1:08:27
a fucking rat line. What is this line?
1:08:29
What are we doing here? Chuck
1:08:31
Buffalo at plus
1:08:34
185 and we're crazy. You
1:08:36
know where Urbina comes from to fight family? Yes. His
1:08:38
winning UFC against Orion Kosi, who's only
1:08:41
winning UFC is Blood Diamond through Charles
1:08:43
Radky beat. So what is
1:08:45
the Vegas thinking here? Urbina, 6'3", tall, lanky guy,
1:08:47
but inexperienced. Doesn't like getting the mud, likes to
1:08:49
fight pretty, likes to fight long. Chuck Buffalo is
1:08:52
going to get in those trenches. He's going to
1:08:54
get in the mud. He's going
1:08:56
to take him down. He's going to let him back up.
1:08:58
He's going to beat him up. This could be a
1:09:00
close fight, I think. I think Urbina is going to
1:09:02
try to stay pretty, but I
1:09:04
think Buffalo, Chuck Buffalo is not going to
1:09:06
let him. And at plus 185, I mean,
1:09:09
come on, we're riding with Chuck Buffalo. Charles
1:09:11
Radky. I think he's training the better guys.
1:09:13
Not to mention his three losses. Austin Hubbard.
1:09:16
Tough enough. Fine. Oh, excuse me. Also,
1:09:18
fight a finalist. Chris Gonzalez, having a
1:09:20
pretty decent career over in Bellator. Justin
1:09:22
Montalvo, Ray Longo's guys, 5'2", overall. I
1:09:25
mean, the guys fought some really good people. I was one
1:09:28
against some really good people as well. I'm all over Chuck
1:09:30
Buffalo here. And Chuck Buffalo, that
1:09:32
nickname is in my notes, but I didn't want
1:09:34
to steal Petrie's thunder. I think you agree that
1:09:36
it is probably the best nickname in MMA. I
1:09:38
can't think of the better one. Ken Flo, Chuck
1:09:41
Buffalo taking on Urbina here. Who do you like?
1:09:43
Yeah, this is an interesting fight. I think
1:09:45
that there's certainly some great value on Radky here.
1:09:47
I think he's the
1:09:50
more technical fighter overall. Just
1:09:52
looks smooth, but Urbina does have a
1:09:54
way of winning and making it look
1:09:56
ugly. I think where Radky needs
1:09:58
to be. Sharpest is he
1:10:01
needs to have an answer towards that forward
1:10:03
pressure verbena. He's got to stop the takedowns.
1:10:05
He's got to be able to not
1:10:07
let them smother him, all that
1:10:09
stuff. So he's going to have to have
1:10:11
a very disciplined approach. And, you know, Brian
1:10:13
was talking about one of those losses that
1:10:16
he faced in Justin Montalvo. And that was
1:10:18
a fight where he was winning the whole
1:10:20
fight, you know, and then kind of
1:10:22
threw it away, got hurt with a body shot
1:10:24
and then just crumbled. So hopefully that's not the
1:10:26
case. You know, I'm a little bit worried for
1:10:29
Ratkey, maybe late in that fight. He's got to
1:10:31
stay disciplined, got to be in shape for this
1:10:33
one against Rabina. But I do
1:10:35
think he's probably the more skillful fighter. Doesn't necessarily
1:10:37
mean he's got to win. I'm
1:10:40
going to stay away from that one from a
1:10:42
betting standpoint. But I think there's
1:10:44
some great value on Ratkey there. How
1:10:47
about these guys doing regional film study a full
1:10:49
week out? And I will say, even though for
1:10:51
you guys, it is unfair that you have to
1:10:53
make these picks on Monday. It is of tremendous
1:10:55
value to people out there trying to get the
1:10:57
best possible number. And it may not be that
1:10:59
the best possible number exists early in the week,
1:11:01
but I think you can do worse than getting
1:11:03
picks from these guys so early in the week
1:11:06
because a lot of the handicappers don't go on
1:11:08
the record until later in the
1:11:10
week. Our big friend, Big Ron, right, waiting
1:11:12
all week to get that answer point. All
1:11:14
right. At middleweight, he's going to fucking kill
1:11:16
me for that. Ali Azkab, Izriev, the forgotten
1:11:19
man, minus 185, taking on Makmou
1:11:21
Murada, plus 154. So
1:11:23
Izriev, 14-0. American
1:11:26
top team here in South Florida also rep Eagles NMA,
1:11:28
submitted Dennis Tululan and his UFC debut that was all
1:11:30
the way back in March of 2022. Hasn't
1:11:34
fought in two years since, Bri. What do we make of Izriev
1:11:37
getting back on the horse this weekend? So
1:11:39
Izriev is a guy that's surprising me.
1:11:41
He's 5'9", a little pudgy, probably should
1:11:43
be at 170, rocks at 185, decent
1:11:45
people, doesn't matter.
1:11:49
He's got that mountain man strength, right? And Murada's the
1:11:52
guy who I was high on. You know, he was
1:11:54
the Floyd Mayweather signed guy. He had sharp hands, comes
1:11:56
in there, lays the dud, and then he became a
1:11:58
wrestler against Brian Barberina, who he... He outsized
1:12:00
tremendously. We ain't at 13 takedowns in
1:12:02
that fight. He just kind of drowned
1:12:04
it out. Barbarina. This is an interesting
1:12:07
fight here. You know, he's here with a guy
1:12:09
who I think is on their side. I don't know how much success
1:12:11
he's going to have at 85, but I
1:12:13
like him in this spot here. I think he's
1:12:15
tricky. I think there's a guy who kind of
1:12:17
sleepwalks through a fight and then the minute he
1:12:19
sees an opportunity, he jumps on. He's not jumping
1:12:21
off the map to me. He's not blowing me
1:12:23
out of the water, but he wins and he's
1:12:25
very precise. He's very technical at what he does.
1:12:27
We'll get you back. We'll take you home. That's
1:12:29
it. That's a wrap. I like his rep here.
1:12:31
And if we're playing profs, and the profs are
1:12:33
not right there, I like his rep maybe possibly
1:12:35
our submission as well. But
1:12:37
yeah, give me the Russian. Nicely
1:12:39
done, Bri. I really like this fight, Kenny.
1:12:42
Kizriev's really an intriguing guy for the UFC.
1:12:44
He was forced to withdraw from a matchup
1:12:46
with Jacob Malkun last September,
1:12:48
and then Muradov obviously with the
1:12:51
Floyd Mayweather money team, Connections, reps
1:12:53
Uzbekistan born into Jikistan. What are
1:12:56
your thoughts on this one? Not a bad price on either side,
1:12:58
if you like one side. Yeah,
1:13:00
definitely. I think his rep's the real deal. You know,
1:13:02
a lot of people have compared him to Habib, like
1:13:04
so many people who fight out of Dagestown. A lot
1:13:06
of people make that comparison. And you
1:13:08
know, I think this is a pretty fair one. I think
1:13:11
he has a similar style. I think
1:13:13
he might be even a little bit more of a
1:13:15
dangerous striker. Now, Brian nailed it with the assessment as
1:13:17
far as his weight class and what
1:13:19
weight he should be. I think he'd probably fare a little
1:13:21
bit better at 170 pounds perhaps, but still his speed, his
1:13:27
ability to take you down and control you
1:13:29
is still going to be a handful for anyone
1:13:31
at 185 pounds. I'm curious
1:13:33
to see how Muradov's wrestling holds
1:13:35
up against his rep here, but I
1:13:38
think it's going to be a little bit too
1:13:40
much for him to handle. I think just the
1:13:42
pressure, the volume, it
1:13:44
tends to build over the course of the fight. And
1:13:46
like Brian kind of alluded to, when he sees that
1:13:48
your heart are vulnerable, that's when he really pours it
1:13:50
on and tries to get you out of there. And
1:13:52
I think that will be the case here for his
1:13:54
real. All right,
1:13:56
next up, team Bo Hoches taking
1:14:01
on Serato MMA's Viviani Atauzo who is
1:14:03
plus 270. A little setup for
1:14:05
you gentlemen. Mattalia Silverbraes got a
1:14:07
lot of momentum right now. Zlaiweh, 4-0 in the
1:14:10
UFC, beat Andrea Lee, that was UFC 292 last
1:14:12
August in Boston. Lot of experience, just 27 years
1:14:14
old, 16-5 in one. But
1:14:18
how about this on Atauzo, she's 37. I
1:14:21
don't know if she's in her fighting prime
1:14:24
or not, but she's fought six former UFC
1:14:26
title challengers or champions. So advantage
1:14:28
strength of schedule to the older woman
1:14:30
here, Atauzo, she fought Alexa Grosso, Caitlin
1:14:32
Shukegian, also coming off a pretty impressive
1:14:35
win over one of those former title
1:14:37
challengers, Jennifer Maya. And that
1:14:39
was last October. She's six and four in
1:14:41
the UFC, VP. Like Silva the favorite
1:14:43
or Atauzo the underdog here? This one's
1:14:46
for the boys. I feel like I haven't delivered a good one
1:14:48
in 2024 yet, but we're
1:14:50
gonna go, this isn't my pick, but
1:14:52
Viviani Atauzo, that's my, I
1:14:55
nailed that Kenny, don't laugh. You
1:14:57
know, I fucking nailed it again. Viviani Atauzo.
1:15:00
Wait a second, wait a second. So
1:15:03
I laughed and I messed it up, so I'm
1:15:05
gonna need you to clean it. Say it again.
1:15:08
Cause guys, when I do her name on my
1:15:10
podcast, it was laughing at me, it's Viviani Atauzo.
1:15:14
That's it, Kenny, don't laugh, it's clean, that's
1:15:16
clean. No, I turned my mic
1:15:18
off so that I wouldn't say
1:15:21
your thunder. As you were, Brad. Yes, no, so she,
1:15:23
I think she was an identity crisis. She fought the
1:15:25
elite of the elite, and she came up short of
1:15:27
some of those things, and now she's starting to mix
1:15:30
in wrestling, and she was a power puncher coming when
1:15:32
she first debuted in the UFC. Now she's kind of
1:15:34
like doubting her power, and she's trying
1:15:36
to mix everything, which is good, but sometimes it
1:15:39
leads to a little bit of a lackluster fight, and she's
1:15:41
not really putting her name out there anymore. And
1:15:43
then you got Silva, who I think is an
1:15:45
absolute fucking stud. I mean, her losses all happened
1:15:47
early in her career, and she's just going out
1:15:50
there and winning and winning. The Andrew Lee fight,
1:15:52
I know Andrew Lee, she's been
1:15:54
flirting with the top for a while, but no one
1:15:56
really just shuts around. It's
1:15:58
usually a split in the city. She
1:16:00
walked through Andrew Lee and Andrew Lee's tough.
1:16:02
She mixes and takedowns well and Silva
1:16:04
shut all that down. Before
1:16:06
that she's winning by knockout. I
1:16:09
like Silva here. I'm willing to pay the price
1:16:11
as well. I minus 340 that doesn't run me
1:16:13
away. But I like Silva big shot.
1:16:15
I don't think she can get a finish because Ira Jo
1:16:17
is tough and she's been in there with everyone. But
1:16:20
I like Silva to really style on here and
1:16:22
make a stamp and go I'm here. Another
1:16:25
Brazilian top contender in this division. So yeah,
1:16:27
give me Silva for sure. Can't
1:16:29
find out Cody's bemoan in the fact that I didn't
1:16:31
do Viviani out of Ujo is our pronunciation of the
1:16:33
week and the reason being of that we have done
1:16:35
that before. But what do you have for us on
1:16:37
the ladies? Can flow. This is
1:16:39
an interesting fight. I think I
1:16:41
know Jo is very tough. I
1:16:43
but I think Silva is
1:16:46
the kind of striker that when she gets in her
1:16:48
rhythm, that momentum
1:16:50
just tends to build and she just gets better
1:16:52
and better. A lot of that has to do
1:16:54
with this. Her footwork, her rhythm. She throws some
1:16:56
of the nastiest shovel hooks out of any fighter
1:16:58
in the UFC, male or female. You
1:17:01
know, she gets into that striking lane
1:17:03
and she will destroy your face if it's
1:17:05
there. And I think
1:17:07
Ira Jo will probably take some big lumps.
1:17:10
I think, you know, her side kicks,
1:17:13
her kicks, the legs. I think those are going
1:17:15
to be a problem. Ira Jo tends to be
1:17:17
a little bit plotting with her footwork. Doesn't mean
1:17:19
she's not dangerous, but and she hits hard because
1:17:22
she is a little bit flat footed. However,
1:17:24
as far as trying to keep up with someone like
1:17:26
Silva, I don't love that for her. I
1:17:29
think Natalia Silva is a big favor probably
1:17:31
because of that reason. You
1:17:33
know, I'm not sure I'm going to touch this one,
1:17:35
but I do like Silva here. A little bit of
1:17:38
value on Ara Jo, but I think Silva's footwork, her
1:17:40
striking is going to be a little bit too much.
1:17:42
I don't think she's I don't think Ara Jo is
1:17:44
going to be that much of a threat if she
1:17:46
does take Silva down. I don't think it's enough to
1:17:48
really threaten her with submissions, maybe. But
1:17:51
I like Silva here as well. At Anaflorean
1:17:53
Pod, should Kettiflorian have to spend his
1:17:56
$1,000 every week? Yes
1:17:59
or no? Evan Longoria, please chime in
1:18:01
as well. All right, next game, catch up. In
1:18:04
the welterweight division, Rude Boy, Randy Browne, minus 238,
1:18:06
Muslim Salahkob is plus 195. Randy
1:18:10
Browne's 33 years old now, that makes me
1:18:12
feel like a fucking fossil. He's 11 and
1:18:14
five in the UFC, getting ready for Bry
1:18:16
his 17th UFC appearance.
1:18:18
Last one was a pretty good one, unanimous
1:18:20
decision that went over Wellington Terman. While ago
1:18:22
though, seven months ago in Jacksonville, and
1:18:25
then on the other side, real quick, Bry,
1:18:27
King of Kung Fu, Salahkob, also coming off,
1:18:29
no, a loss, excuse me, to Nicholas Dalby
1:18:31
last June, but strong UFC record, I should
1:18:33
say, as well at six and three. He
1:18:35
will be 40 in June. Your thoughts
1:18:37
here on Randy Browne taking
1:18:39
on Muslim Salahkob? Yeah, so I'm
1:18:42
glad they kept this fight together. This was
1:18:44
supposed to happen, Randy Browne withdrew because of
1:18:46
illness, and self-esteem, I'm glad they kept it
1:18:48
together because I'm all over Rude Boy here.
1:18:50
I think he dominates, I really, truly do.
1:18:52
Muslim Salahkob is a guy who comes out
1:18:54
aggressive. He wants to kill you. He wants
1:18:56
to take your fucking head off, and then
1:18:58
he slows down. And I think
1:19:00
Randy Browne, who hasn't chinned before, has been knocked
1:19:02
out before, needs to be careful, but I also think
1:19:04
he needs a finish here. We haven't seen a
1:19:06
finish from Randy Browne in a while, and we
1:19:08
need a finish out of Randy Browne,
1:19:10
I think, and Muslim Salahkob's a guy
1:19:12
you can finish late in the second, early in the
1:19:14
third. Randy Browne does have good cardio. I wouldn't be
1:19:16
surprised if we get a submission out of Randy Browne,
1:19:19
possibly a TKO if he just wears him down with
1:19:21
strikes. But I'm all over Rude Boy here. I'm
1:19:23
glad they ran this one back, and minus
1:19:25
245 is a gorgeous number. I thought he'd be
1:19:27
placed a little higher, but
1:19:29
I'll take it. I'll take Randy Browne. By the
1:19:32
way, I just noticed Petrie's shirt, select your fighter,
1:19:34
which can be yours at johnannik.com, and that is
1:19:36
Petrie's mug on that shirt. If you could hold
1:19:38
that up for me real high. No, I like
1:19:40
that Petrie single, Cody, all over it. Phenomenal
1:19:43
producer, director, Cody Merrow, but yeah, there's really
1:19:45
too safe on that one
1:19:47
side. Nice. Whenever I ever wear this, my
1:19:50
kids go, Daddy, Daddy! I say, yeah, that's Dad. Daddy's
1:19:52
fucking famous. Stay with it, honey.
1:19:55
Info, Randy Browne, minus 238, Muslim
1:19:57
Salah Khan, plus 195. Any thoughts for?
1:20:00
on this? Yeah, listen, I think it's
1:20:02
gonna be very difficult fight for Salikov. I
1:20:04
think that when you have a guy like
1:20:06
Randy Brown who is going to be long
1:20:09
and more athletic and knows how to utilize
1:20:11
that jab and those long range strikes, it's
1:20:14
a great way to nullify an
1:20:16
unorthodox style, a guy with a different rhythm
1:20:18
like a Salikov. So I think Randy's got
1:20:21
to get off to a good start with
1:20:23
that jab early, establish that range, and he's
1:20:25
got to be on point with his takedown
1:20:27
game. It's almost that simple. And
1:20:30
I think if he's able to do that, I think
1:20:32
he wins this fight. I think he's going to be
1:20:34
a little bit too athletic, a little bit too long
1:20:36
and lanky for Salikov. Even if Salikov
1:20:38
is able to get him to the mat, I don't see
1:20:40
Salikov as that like, you know, Shazam
1:20:42
style of submission game on the
1:20:44
ground that could pose a problem
1:20:47
for Brown. I don't think it
1:20:49
really be like that. So
1:20:51
I think Randy Brown is going to be able to
1:20:53
win this fight, look good. I
1:20:56
like him in this spot a lot. I think it's a great matchup
1:20:58
for him. Yeah. All right.
1:21:01
Co-main event in the lightweight division.
1:21:03
He is back. Money. Moikano,
1:21:06
13th ranked. Hnato Moikano. And it's amazing
1:21:08
how much more excited I think the
1:21:10
fan base is now about this guy.
1:21:12
He's minus 142. Take
1:21:15
it on. 15th ranked. Drew
1:21:17
Dobre, who is plus 120. So Moikano,
1:21:19
Bri, was all the rage after he
1:21:21
submitted Brad Riddell at UFC 281. That
1:21:24
was all the way back in November of 2022. Huge
1:21:28
fight now for Moikano in the co-main event this
1:21:30
weekend. How do you think he handles the power
1:21:32
and the striking game of Drew Dobre? I
1:21:34
hope he's getting paid, man. Moikano.
1:21:36
Listen, Ray talked about it,
1:21:39
about Marab putting out funny content, which
1:21:41
is the video Marab put out hilarious.
1:21:43
Moikano is very funny himself. You know,
1:21:45
he's got English down, but it's still
1:21:47
a little broken and it's very funny.
1:21:49
He's funny on Twitter. He calls everyone
1:21:52
out, which is hilarious. He's
1:21:54
got a big fight here, you know, because Moikano got
1:21:57
knocked out twice at 45, got put
1:21:59
out. And then debuted against Fiziev
1:22:02
got knocked out as well. Got knocked
1:22:04
around by Jaffier Losaños, you know.
1:22:07
So there's a little bit of a chin issue and
1:22:09
Drew Dobrik, all this guy does is
1:22:11
knock people out. His last seven wins are from knockout. I
1:22:13
mean, I know people are sleeping on Dobrik a little bit
1:22:15
because he's up and down a little bit. I was one,
1:22:17
a better plus money on Dobrik,
1:22:19
but Vegas is smart. Um, so
1:22:21
we're not getting that, but I'm all over Drew Dobrik here. I
1:22:23
think Drew Dobrik wins this fight. Wicano,
1:22:26
Drew Dobrik gets taken down
1:22:28
by elite people, but he plays guard
1:22:30
and then he stuffs the head and
1:22:32
cage walks. He doesn't hip out and
1:22:34
jump up, exposes his back. Might
1:22:36
do that when he's desperate. Wicano's got a great rear
1:22:38
naked choke. I don't see Drew Dobrik exposing
1:22:41
himself when he's on the ground too much. I
1:22:43
don't think Wicano's wrestling is all that
1:22:46
good. He's set up, he's wrestling very nice with
1:22:48
the striking, but Drew Dobrik with that bulldozer of
1:22:50
a head, you know, he's got a refrigerator head.
1:22:52
You can take those shots. He can give shots
1:22:54
and I like them by knockout here. I like
1:22:56
them stunning this crowd here. Um,
1:22:58
again, I wanted to juice your number on you,
1:23:01
Dobrik, but I'm going to do Dobrik plus one
1:23:03
20 is fine by me. Uh,
1:23:05
but I'm going under dog here. Kenny,
1:23:07
if a criminal had to be killed with one
1:23:09
punch, I think I probably send
1:23:11
Josh Emmett in there over Drew Dobrik, but
1:23:14
I think Dobrik has a lot of similar
1:23:16
qualities at lightweight. When you see some of
1:23:18
the consequences on the other side
1:23:20
of Emmett's power, it's like these guys are really
1:23:22
concussed and Drew Dover, I think has that
1:23:25
similar, you know, one punch, really scary threat
1:23:27
here. Uh, what are your thoughts on this?
1:23:30
Come in event as Moikano tries to, uh,
1:23:32
to make a real statement here against Drew.
1:23:37
I think you're on mute brother, but we love
1:23:39
your fucking mustache. I'm sorry. I got the, I
1:23:41
got some landscapers over here. I can't keep
1:23:43
it off for too long. So listen, I
1:23:45
think that, uh, this is an
1:23:47
interesting fight. I see a little bit differently than
1:23:50
Brian. I do know that Dover, no question about
1:23:52
it is very dangerous. You know, he has the
1:23:54
ability to put you out with one shot, especially
1:23:56
with his hands. Uh, when he gets
1:23:58
into a rhythm, he also was. very clean with his
1:24:00
Muay Thai as well when he's getting on with
1:24:03
his combinations as opposed to just looking for
1:24:06
that one big shot. What
1:24:09
worries me about Drew is sometimes he gets
1:24:11
a little bit too reckless and you can
1:24:13
get reckless with some of the other guys
1:24:15
that maybe you face in the past, let's
1:24:18
say like a Ricky Glenn, right?
1:24:21
I'm looking at his fights right
1:24:23
now, Bobby Green, Jaffaele Alves, Terrence
1:24:25
McKinney, but I don't know
1:24:27
if you can get away with that against someone
1:24:30
like Moikano who is very dangerous as well. This
1:24:32
is a guy that hits hard as well. I
1:24:34
think he's got the better submission game as well.
1:24:36
I think being the taller, longer guy can
1:24:38
pose some problems for Dover who really
1:24:41
does his best work in tight. When
1:24:44
he gets into that boxing range, when he's in
1:24:46
close, that's when he can rip the body, go
1:24:48
upstairs, land those big shots, but
1:24:50
I think that Moikano sometimes has a
1:24:52
tendency of getting reckless. So
1:24:54
this is why it's very interesting. I've seen
1:24:56
some improvements in the game of Moikano. I like
1:24:59
the fact that I think he's
1:25:01
a little bit more durable at 155 pounds than he is at
1:25:04
145 pounds. I
1:25:07
think he's had some time in between fights now and
1:25:10
I like him in this matchup. I think it's going
1:25:12
to be interesting. I think if he can keep Dover
1:25:16
on the outside, land shots and
1:25:18
be patient, be defensively sound, I
1:25:20
think he wins this one. So I like the odds
1:25:23
in his favor too. I
1:25:25
definitely see some good value
1:25:27
on Moikano. Money
1:25:30
Moikano has dealt with some injuries too. He
1:25:32
was to face Armand Sarukian April 29th of
1:25:34
2023, but he was forced to
1:25:36
withdraw. He did say on our Sodor
1:25:39
program, remember the show with Belat Mohammed and Jason
1:25:41
Anik on the Anakin Florian podcast YouTube channel that
1:25:43
he learned to swear from playing Call
1:25:45
of Duty and man, that guy knows
1:25:47
his fucking way around an F-bomb. Is
1:25:50
he not? Nice. Middleweight,
1:25:52
all clips from this program can still be accessed
1:25:54
on the old channel Anakin Florian podcast. That includes
1:25:56
our exclusive interview with the new Middleweight champion, Drake
1:25:58
Estee. do. Plus he but we would love if
1:26:01
you would join us over on the DraftKings YouTube
1:26:03
channel as well. Subscribe and watch full length episodes
1:26:05
over there. It would really help the program. Anyway,
1:26:07
Paul results main event matchup in middleweight
1:26:10
11th, Ragnar Sordini, my Bob minus 166.
1:26:13
Number eight Roman delirze is plus 140 and
1:26:15
62.5% of you like the underdog Roman delirze.
1:26:21
Huge year for the middleweight division, obviously to
1:26:23
begin things belt on the line earlier this
1:26:25
month. And now another headliner in this division.
1:26:27
Imabov's last win bride came all the way
1:26:30
back in 2022 against Joaquin Buckley, lost a
1:26:32
main event unanimous decision to Sean Strickland last
1:26:34
January, a night on which he was supposed
1:26:36
to face Kelvin Gasolom. Then of course, the
1:26:38
no contest against your guy, the king of
1:26:40
combat Chris Curtis, due to the accidental clash
1:26:42
of heads. That was UFC 289 last June.
1:26:45
Now he draws the hard
1:26:47
nose Georgian Roman delirze. Who
1:26:49
do you have in the main event? So I
1:26:51
love when a main event or any fight stumps
1:26:53
me, right? I'm like, what side of me this is this
1:26:55
is it. This is 50 50 in
1:26:57
my mind. I reached out to my guy Chris Curtis, who I
1:26:59
was talking to earlier this week. He
1:27:01
trained with the lead today, has trained with the lead
1:27:04
today and fought him enough. So I
1:27:06
said, who we got here? He didn't give
1:27:08
me a firm answer. He just says Imanov
1:27:10
surprise. All right, I let it go the
1:27:13
first time. Not
1:27:19
the body model of the sniper.
1:27:21
In Marvel. In Marvel. Listen, I
1:27:24
messed up the first time. If there was an
1:27:26
edit button, we could edit it out. I kept
1:27:28
going because I'm professional. Listen,
1:27:34
Nastadeen, I'm just gonna go that because he's
1:27:38
slick on the feet and his takedowns are
1:27:40
getting better. Him off his back is what
1:27:42
worrying me. The lead say he's a big
1:27:44
guy. For 185 probably should be a 205.
1:27:46
We're being honest with us. Any any hockey
1:27:48
down there. I still remember him looking in
1:27:50
his quarter men back to back fights going,
1:27:52
you may take his leg. I'm gonna take his way.
1:27:55
He falls. Her leg doesn't get it. I mean, it's
1:27:57
like you're gonna be that hockey finished this mission,
1:27:59
but He's very good when he did the
1:28:01
Jacker mance on the ground was surprising. He's slick
1:28:03
for a big guy covered in hair
1:28:05
and it just a big gorilla punches hard. The margin
1:28:08
for you fight. We all split hair. So you won
1:28:10
that fight. You really didn't win the fight. But when
1:28:12
it comes down to me is both you guys have
1:28:14
struggled with cardio. I think Nastardim
1:28:16
is cleaner. I think the lead stays more powerful,
1:28:18
has more ways to win on the ground, but
1:28:21
I don't see the lead take on five rounds. I
1:28:23
think he's going to try to get him out there
1:28:25
in two rounds. I think if he can't do that,
1:28:27
he's in a world of hurt. Uh,
1:28:30
Imanov has went five rounds before with
1:28:32
the former champion in Strickland. Slow down
1:28:34
a little bit, but got a second
1:28:36
wind. Didn't get finished, but
1:28:38
up over laying over a hundred strikes himself. I'm
1:28:41
going with Imanov and I'm not looking back.
1:28:44
All right. And Cody, please remind me the next
1:28:46
time Rafael Faziv fights, I'd like to run that
1:28:49
back on the pronunciation of the week, all these
1:28:51
fucking Fizzy have guys out there. Faziv,
1:28:55
uh, Kenny, the Georgian Roman de Lidze. I
1:28:57
like how this episode has come full circle
1:28:59
talking about Harry men. He had won four
1:29:01
straight, uh, before dropping a decision to Marvin
1:29:03
Vittoria at UFC two 86 last March was
1:29:05
going to fight Derek Brunson. Then he had
1:29:07
a fight booked against Jared Candeneer who tore
1:29:09
his MCL. I like both
1:29:12
these guys, man. I love this division right now. Uh,
1:29:14
we will need a main event prediction, Ken Flo, who
1:29:16
do you have? Yeah,
1:29:19
I think that, uh, Brian did
1:29:21
a good breakdown there. Delete say, uh, can
1:29:23
be very dangerous on the ground. There's
1:29:26
no questions about it. Um, he, he
1:29:28
does have the ability to kind of
1:29:30
submit you, um, pretty quickly. Um, when
1:29:33
he's on his game, I also think
1:29:35
he's gained a lot of confidence in
1:29:37
his striking, especially when he's moving forward,
1:29:39
he's not the kind of slick style
1:29:42
of like evade and counter, uh, similar
1:29:44
to in more of off, but he
1:29:46
is very powerful and he moves forward.
1:29:48
Well, uh, gets his head out
1:29:51
of that center line, lands some heavy shots. And
1:29:53
that's where your mobile has to be careful. Um,
1:29:55
you know, in mobile volume can be a
1:29:58
problem. Um, when he waits for the. perfect
1:30:00
counter, that can be a problem. Uh,
1:30:02
when he's getting taken down, uh, that could
1:30:04
be a problem. And when I'm looking
1:30:07
at this, I just see it being a little bit, there's
1:30:09
a little bit too many problems, the way of a mom.
1:30:11
Um, I do think it'd be an
1:30:13
advantage. Like Brian said rounds four and
1:30:16
five, that's where I'm off, uh,
1:30:18
his durability. And maybe
1:30:20
his conditioning, if he's being efficient, that's where
1:30:22
he can maybe take over in the fight.
1:30:24
Cause the lead say, isn't
1:30:27
the most efficient guy. Um, as
1:30:29
far as managing his energy over the course of
1:30:31
the fight. And of course this being a five
1:30:34
round main event in the UFC, uh,
1:30:36
that's a whole different ball of wax. So
1:30:38
curious to see how both fighters really respond
1:30:40
to that. Um, but for me,
1:30:42
I think I'm leaning towards the lead say,
1:30:44
I think if there's one guy who finishes
1:30:47
the flight, uh, within, I guess
1:30:49
maybe the first 15 minutes it's probably a delete
1:30:51
say and in my mouth can finish the fight,
1:30:53
but I wouldn't see that happening until later on,
1:30:56
uh, in the fight, like late in the fight.
1:30:58
So, um, leaning towards a
1:31:00
delete say, man, I think the threat
1:31:02
of him on the ground and him
1:31:04
being, I think the more powerful striker
1:31:06
in some ways, uh, is
1:31:08
what gives him the advantage in this fight. Nicely
1:31:11
done my man. As always, it is now
1:31:13
time for my favorite part of the show.
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1:31:30
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1:31:34
the year. Kenny
1:31:37
Florian minus $120 and 82 cents. VP
1:31:42
thousand bucks. Flora's yours. Yeah.
1:31:44
So I'm going to start right away with,
1:31:46
uh, with old Chuck Buffalo rack. Yeah. Plus
1:31:48
I've given me, give me $200 on the
1:31:50
underdog there. I
1:31:53
think that's a good spot for me. And
1:31:55
then give me Randy red by Brown
1:31:57
minus two 45 plus four, or excuse
1:31:59
me. I like
1:32:01
to go for for whack there and I'm
1:32:04
gonna jump into prop pool. The prop pools
1:32:06
open from the emails. So let's go Dover
1:32:08
by KO. That's
1:32:10
gonna be probably a small plus number, but I like plus numbers.
1:32:12
That's gonna be 100 bucks. And
1:32:14
then give me Imaavav for
1:32:17
$300 and that's my thousand bucks right there.
1:32:20
Straight wager on Imaavav at minus 166. And
1:32:24
again, if you're wondering right now as we
1:32:26
tape, perhaps Dover by knockout is not available
1:32:28
on Draft King Sportsbook. But once you guys
1:32:30
find that proposition, you screen grab it, send
1:32:33
it to me and Cody and we will
1:32:35
lock in that price for you on Drew
1:32:37
Dover by knockout. Ken flow thousand bucks. What
1:32:39
are we doing this week? If anything, yeah,
1:32:42
you know what? I'm good. I'm gonna
1:32:44
do actually a three fight parlay here.
1:32:48
So yeah, I'm not gonna take the risk
1:32:50
of going $1,000 at this stage of the
1:32:52
game. I don't want to
1:32:54
get too far behind early in the year to Brian
1:32:57
Petrie. So let's do $500. This
1:33:00
is gonna be my parlay here.
1:33:03
Let's go with Randy Brown.
1:33:08
Let's go with Hisriev. And
1:33:12
let's go with Moikano for a
1:33:14
three fight parlay. Let's see what
1:33:16
happens for 500. I
1:33:18
love it. info.
1:33:21
Just put them on the table here on
1:33:23
a Monday morning. If you want more from
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Brian Petrie at Brian Petrie MMA outstanding work
1:33:27
as always my man. Enjoy the rest
1:33:29
of your day with your family and we will talk to you next
1:33:32
Monday. Real quick, John, you had a
1:33:34
rough week. I'm not gonna beat a dead horse here.
1:33:37
Just know fans like me who've been there
1:33:39
for 20 plus years. We love you. We
1:33:42
appreciate you. And I'm glad that you sent that
1:33:44
statement out. You know, we all we're all human
1:33:46
here. But you're the man brother. Thank
1:33:48
you, buddy. I appreciate that and all your support. Have
1:33:50
a good week. All right, brother. Thank
1:33:53
you. Thanks for watching. We'll see you
1:33:55
next week. We'll see you next week. Bye. Muhammad
1:34:00
and Jason Anick coming up live
1:34:02
on Thursday on the Anakin Florian podcast
1:34:04
channel. Perhaps Bilal will have a date
1:34:06
by then. One more sleep
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clicking on as much as Argus Integrated Defense
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and A&R Tactics on Instagram. But if you're
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would go check out those particular businesses on
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Instagram. Thanks to our guest, Paul Felder, Ray
1:34:25
Longo, Brian Petrie, and the maestro Cody Bone
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Marrow for putting it all together for Ken
1:34:29
Florian and John Anick. Thank you all for
1:34:31
watching, for listening. Tell your friends we appreciate
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it. And from the bottom of my heart,
1:34:36
I'd like to thank you all for the love and support.
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I'd like to take this time to apologize to
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absolutely fucking nobody. Thank
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you all. Honestly, from the bottom
1:34:46
of my heart, I've spent hours responding
1:34:48
to the love and some of the
1:34:51
opposite of love. And I'm going
1:34:53
to continue to be a conduit for the fans. But thank
1:34:55
you all. Thanks for supporting the Anakin Florian podcast. We'll talk
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