In this conversation, Daniel and Ashlee discuss various topics related to animal welfare with Tawny Hammond, the director of No Kill Advancement at Best Friends Animal Society. They cover personal experiences with cruises, the goal of achieving no kill by 2025, the potential for language change in the industry, Tawny's role and the programs she oversees, the importance of access to care in underserved communities, and the challenges faced by animal shelters. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration and sustainable solutions to save more animal lives and improve the welfare of both animals and people. This conversation explores the challenges and shortcomings of the current animal shelter system and the need for a life-saving approach. The importance of communication, building relationships, and bridging the gap between different perspectives is emphasized. The conversation also delves into the need for change in the veterinary profession and the importance of advocating for better access to care. The discussion concludes with a call for continued dialogue and collaboration to create a better future for animals and humans alike.Takeaways

• The goal of achieving no kill by 2025 is an aspirational target set by Best Friends Animal Society to save more animal lives and reduce unnecessary euthanasia.
• Language in the animal welfare industry is a topic of discussion, with some advocating for a change in terminology to be more inclusive and less divisive.
• Access to care is a crucial aspect of animal welfare, particularly in underserved communities where there may be limited resources and veterinary services.
• Collaboration between government entities, nonprofits, and communities is essential in solving complex issues related to animal welfare and creating sustainable solutions.
• Animal shelters face challenges in managing the influx of animals and providing adequate care, highlighting the need for comprehensive programs and resources. The current animal shelter system is broken and in need of reform to ensure the well-being and safety of animals.
• Effective communication and relationship-building are crucial in creating a life-saving system for animals.
• The veterinary profession needs to undergo a transformation to provide better access to care and support for animals.
• Advocating for change in language and terminology can help create a more inclusive and supportive environment for animals and people.

Chapters00:00Introduction and Updates

02:22Personal Experiences with Cruises

06:14Tawny Hammond's Background as a Captain

11:32The Goal of No Kill by 2025

20:11Language Change in Animal Welfare

21:41Tawny Hammond's Role and Programs

25:39Access to Care and Underserved Communities

30:15Expanding Access to Care Programs

35:27Language and Accuracy

39:11Challenges in Animal Shelters

40:06The Broken System of Animal Shelters

41:00The Need for a Life-Saving System

41:56The Challenges of Working in Animal Shelters

42:38Bridging the Gap and Creating Relationships

43:14The Importance of Communication and Conversation

44:21Building Relationships and Trust

45:37The Need for Change in the Veterinary Profession

46:25Advocating for Change in Language and Terminology

48:48Creating a Better Environment for People and Animals

52:28Making a Business Case for Ending the Killing of Pets

53:00The SMART Approach to Animal Shelters

54:56Embracing Change for the Betterment of Animals

57:32Finding Common Ground and Working Together

01:02:30The Importance of Continuing the Conversation

01:05:02Addressing Discriminatory Practices and Access to Care

01:06:52Focusing on Programs and Embedded Services

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