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Welcome to the Approach Shot , the

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golf show that's more laughs than links

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, more stories than strokes , more

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guffaws than golfers . Here

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are the hosts of the Approach Shot John

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Ashton and Neil Michaels .

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We are here in all our resplendent

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glory , resplendent glory .

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Nice , that

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was the original name of the band I was in . Oh really no .

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It should have gone with it at least another couple

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of seconds . Yeah , I know we

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are the Approach Shot . We being me

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John Ashton and he Neil

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Michaels .

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And we talked a couple

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of weeks ago about how you and I

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are still old school when it

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comes to when stores

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should start promoting Christmas

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stuff . Not at Halloween

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, no sir . Not at Veterans Day , no

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sir . Let us have a Thanksgiving

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, for goodness sake , and then start

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.

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There's been Christmas stuff since Labor Day .

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man , I know there was actually a store

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here that had things competing

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on one side for Halloween and the

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other side for Christmas . Two , two

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, two holidays and one Just

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bizarre . So I'm glad that we're at

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a point where we're through Thanksgiving . Yes

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, we got to watch football . We got to eat too

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much . My personal favorite

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still is gimme stuffing . If

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you give me bread with flavor on it , I'm good

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, no matter what .

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And when you describe it , it's so appetizing

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.

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Well , thank you , nothing if I'm not a

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chef , right .

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We did something different this year you

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did . Normally it's the whole family gets together

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, yeah , but for various

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and sundry reasons that was not possible

1:46

this year . And I said you know there's going to be

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a total of four of us in this house for

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Thanksgiving dinner . I don't want to cook

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for four people . Let's go out . We've

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never done it before , ever in our 40

1:57

years of marriage , have we ever gone

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out for Thanksgiving dinner ? Packed up the four

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people in the car and we went out for

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Thanksgiving dinner Friday . I

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started kicking myself for making that decision

2:08

. Why is that ? No leftovers

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oh

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no . Next day . Turkey sandwiches

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no , no . Next day , you

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know , sweet potatoes back together

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with some more mashed potatoes and gravy . None

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of that is still around . No

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, no stupid idea .

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If you want , you can come to my house because we got plenty . I

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mean , I know from Louisville to San Diego is a little

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bit of a hike , but I'm telling you , the stuffing

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and the turkey sort of have been have

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been cuddling together for a couple of days

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now . It could be worth it , yeah , it

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could be . And

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so now the pressure begins . As for

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you and me , I know there are other people who have done Amazon

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lists and they put things together and

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it's time to really start honkering

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down on Christmas and we've said

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we're going to cut back . And we say that every year

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we're going to cut back . This year we're going to cut back this year

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. And then people start sending the list . My kids

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who are on the East Coast start sending their list . It's

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like , apparently they didn't get the memo

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, they're

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not planning on cutting back , but it looks

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like , thanks to a new sponsor

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of ours that we

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may have like the perfect

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gift for those people who

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you always say I don't know what to

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get . I'm a dad , you know somebody

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who's got everything , a mom who's got

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everything she needs . We

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got something here don't we ?

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Let me tell you what I did , because this

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is a sticking point in my house . My

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wife lives for Christmas and she just

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goes overboard all the time and

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she keeps telling me all the stuff she's going to buy

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for people . And I just get more

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and more depressed because all I hear

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is cash registers ringing . And

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she came to me and she said what's wrong with you ? And

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I was going to give her an

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idea of what I wanted to buy for a couple

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of people . So I did this to her . I mean

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, let me know what you think . Okay , I'm

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ready . She said , john , what's wrong with you ? And

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I just looked at her and I said I don't know , honey

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. I just I have a late but , but

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therefore I know not lost all my mirth

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for God , all custom of exercises , and

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indeed it goes so heavily

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with my disposition that this goodly

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frame the earth seems to me

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a sterile promontory . This

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most excellent canopy , the air look

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you , the brave were hanging firmament

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, this majestical roof fretted

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with golden fire seems

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to me not but a foul and pestilent

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congregation of vapors . You

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know what a piece of work is a man ? How

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noble and reason and infinite in faculty

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, in form and moving , how express

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and admirable in action , how

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like an angel in apprehension , how

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like a God , the beauty of

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the world , the paragon of animals . And yet

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to me , what is this ? Quintessence

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of dust and

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a light's ? Not me neither , nor woman

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neither . Yeah

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, she looked at me much the same way you were .

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It's funny because I said the same thing to my wife . Right

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what ? What

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just happened ?

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That is a monologue from Hamlet I

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recognized it , believe it or not , the best

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Shakespeare play ever written . Yes

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, I would agree .

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How does that have anything

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to do with what we were talking about ?

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Well , because one of the things I

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think we're going to start giving some of the people in

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my family for gifts this Christmas

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are memberships to masterclass

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.

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Oh , I see what you did there

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. Okay , that's a great idea

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.

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Because I signed up for masterclass . Okay

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, and I am taking an acting

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class ? Excellent

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, because I have always been . You know

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, I want to be thespian , right , right

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. How much do you think it would cost

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to have a one on

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? Well , first , I should tell you who I'm taking

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the class from , shouldn't I ? Yes , you should

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.

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There are a tremendous number of people . It could be the

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.

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The instructor for this acting class

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I am taking is Helen Mirren

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. Oh , stop it , it is not , it

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is . How much do you think it would cost to

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get a one on one acting class with

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Helen Mirren ? Thousands , if

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that little right . Guess

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how much it costs you to get

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a one on one acting class with

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Helen Mirren through masterclass . Thousands

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, 120 bucks a year . 10

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bucks a month . 10 bucks a month .

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Stop it .

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And even more better , if you sign up

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for a class for yourself , no

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matter what class it is , you

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will get another one for free that

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you can give as a gift .

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Oh , now that sounds

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like a Christmas present I

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could relate to , because we do , we

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both . We both have people in our lives that

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are like I don't know what to get that person . So

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you get yourself , in

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your case , an acting class I definitely would

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look to see what else was available for me and

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then you get one and give one .

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Yes , I'm liking this

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Exactly . Look at all

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of the topics that are available . You've

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got somebody who works

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for a living anywhere . You want

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to teach them how to get a raise ? Well

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, how about they take a class with Chris Voss

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one of the instructors at masterclass .

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It's incredible , and I know masterclass has

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a better cook . I'm looking

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at cooking , at some wine

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appreciation , I'm looking

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at four or five different kinds of classes . But now

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that you've sort of got me inspired , I'm

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going to do this like this week If you

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get one , you give one . So

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this is holiday season , you give one

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Thanks for hanging in coming back . We are the

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Approach Shots . I am John .

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Ashton , I am Neil Michaels , and

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I have to tell you that my heart beats

9:35

a little stronger today because with

9:38

us today , as an old friend , he has

9:40

done things in his career that

9:42

some of us that got into this business

9:44

only dream of , and by that I mean selling

9:47

mugs out of his house . Mark

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Thompson is with us Now .

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Mark Thompson- Thank you , I brought my own applause

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. Thank you , let's hear it . Oh

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, did that come through ?

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Nothing I did not .

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Never mind .

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The mugs . I have to tell you , you're

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right . It's sort of like this is from

10:07

my merch side . I've got a merch side getmarkmerchcom

10:11

, and so I have to surround myself

10:13

with all the merch stuff . So there's like a tote bag

10:15

and there's a throw pillow Can you see

10:17

it behind me ? And then , of course , the mugs are the big

10:19

thing . So that's a .

10:21

Who had two minutes on the pool that he was going to start

10:23

schlepping his stuff .

10:24

Well , yeah , you're right , that was pretty

10:27

and , by the way , that is a new record . I've never done that in another

10:29

show . I just felt I would take advantage of this show .

10:32

That is a complete , 100%

10:34

lie , because I watched you on KTLA

10:37

on the show where you were explaining

10:39

how things went at KGO and

10:41

how it's going to be a YouTube thing . They

10:44

asked you how you were going to make money and you said

10:46

I'm going to be selling my merchandise and you went

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into like two or three minutes of it .

10:50

So they asked , I believe , about the merch , but you're

10:52

right . Then I did lie and I

10:54

hope to make that the first of many lies

10:56

that I will perpetrate here , and

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feel free to call them all out . I like that , okay .

11:03

Absolutely . For those

11:05

of you who are listening and going , mark Thompson , mark Thompson , and

11:07

that voice sounds familiar . Mark

11:09

has been the voice of American Idol

11:11

. So you think you can dance ? Are

11:14

you smarter than a fifth grader ? The simple

11:16

life . Don't forget the lyrics . He's

11:19

also the vocalist on . So

11:21

you Think you Can Dance ? You sang that

11:23

.

11:23

I don't remember that . I think they're giving me credit

11:26

for something I didn't do . I don't recall

11:28

it . I must tell you there are whole chunks of my

11:30

career I don't recall .

11:31

So it's conceivable that I did . Oh , that's a typical

11:34

radio dude man . I don't know

11:36

.

11:37

It's conceivable , but I suspect

11:39

it's not accurate . I

11:42

was the voice of so you Think you Can Dance , and I was the voice of

11:44

don't forget the lyrics , all that other stuff , but I don't

11:46

remember singing on it at all .

11:48

We're almost at 100 shows now and I have to

11:50

tell you that probably 10 , 15%

11:53

of them I'll do the research and

11:56

they'll say no , that's Wikipedia and that's wrong .

11:58

It is weird that the web

12:01

is populated by stuff that is utterly concocted

12:04

and also , to be fair to the web , the name

12:06

Mark Thompson is shared by a

12:08

lot of people , like the guy who runs CNN

12:10

now did run the New York Times before that

12:12

, and there's another radio , dj

12:14

K-L-O-S in Los Angeles named Mark Thompson

12:16

, so it's possible that some of that stuff washes

12:18

over .

12:19

There you go . For those of you in

12:22

San Francisco or LA , you

12:24

know the voice very well . While

12:28

Mark was on K-RON is it K-RON or K-R-O-N ? K-r-o-n

12:31

they called it the NBC

12:33

affiliate in San Francisco . He became

12:35

the weatherman there and you

12:37

created the wildly popular neighborhood

12:40

weather which , once I read

12:42

it , I thought that's brilliant

12:44

.

12:44

Yeah , I thought that's . You're nice to say this is free

12:47

, believe it or not , because the 80s free

12:49

email and I was looking

12:51

for a way to connect with the audience and

12:54

to kind of create a back and forth dynamic of the

12:56

audience . So I did a lot of stuff like this

12:58

, meaning to try to connect with the audience . I

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asked the audience to write in , tell us about

13:03

your neighborhood , maybe take a couple of pictures and

13:05

we'll come to your neighborhood and we'll do the weather live

13:07

from your neighborhood . It was really a remote and now

13:09

you see a lot of this , but at the time it

13:11

was unheard of . Okay , so

13:13

in the Bay Area you're going vast distances . You know you've

13:15

got to go to the East Bay or on the Bay Bridge and

13:18

it took like an hour and a half to get to wherever . But

13:20

when you got there it was always great . I

13:22

mean , it really was really fun . And it became

13:24

this franchise , neighborhood Weather , and

13:27

it was picked up , I think , by other stations

13:29

along the way and it was used at

13:31

. Neighborhood Weather was kind of used as a trademark

13:33

, but it was started just that

13:35

way , by asking the audience to write in

13:37

and they would , and it was an extraordinary thing

13:40

. It was a lot of fun .

13:40

It took that and then you went to LA

13:43

where you became the dancing

13:45

weatherman and

13:48

everything I've heard about that . You

13:50

just kind of were messing around one

13:52

day doing a few moves and

13:54

it turned into this thing .

13:57

It became a phenom , and

13:59

you're right , it became this thing

14:01

that I hadn't planned

14:03

on . But I'll tell you guys the real

14:05

truth about it . Ok , it

14:07

was born of resentment and

14:09

here's how it was . Ok , what isn't

14:12

? Yeah , right , thank you . The great , the

14:14

great ideas , john , you know

14:16

, are born of resentment . So Fox

14:18

, rupert Murdoch , bought a

14:20

bunch of stations in different markets

14:22

. So he had two stations and in Los Angeles

14:25

he had Channel 11 , which was the Fox

14:27

owned and operated station , and Channel

14:29

13 , which had been this station owned by a

14:31

company called Chris Kraft . He bought that

14:33

station . So now Fox owns Channel

14:36

11 and Channel 13 . I was on Channel 11

14:38

. So they merged the two , which slowly

14:40

everything came together and they asked

14:42

me to start doing the

14:44

weather on their

14:46

Channel 13 station . Now the weather

14:48

on that show goes on

14:51

because our show is 10 to 11 . Their

14:53

show was on 11 to midnight , so

14:55

I'm not getting out of there till midnight now

14:57

and they're not paying me anymore for

14:59

doing it . So I was not happy

15:01

about it . I mean , I didn't . I grumbled under my

15:03

breath , but I didn't . You know , I'm just not that kind of

15:05

employee who's sort of like going no way

15:08

, I won't do it . That's just not me . So I did

15:10

it . But that resentment was stewing

15:12

in me , right . So they

15:15

were more of a rock and roll show . It

15:17

was less traditional , kind of the Channel 11

15:19

show I've been doing . They kind of was a traditional thing . The

15:21

anchors go here's Mark Thompson with the weather mark . I

15:24

guess there's some rain this weekend . You know that

15:26

sort of thing . Yeah , but on the Channel 13

15:28

show they played some like cool

15:31

music , like just the same music

15:33

they played , but it was kind of like upbeat rock

15:36

and roll is sort of thing , and they had an animation

15:38

, spinning animation , and they just come to me at the map . So

15:40

I told the director hey , when you come to me , just

15:43

leave the music up . That music you play , just leave

15:45

it up . Leave it up for the first 30

15:47

seconds or so . And so I started

15:49

with the dancing just to that music

15:52

. And then the next . And there was a great

15:54

reaction like immediate people go oh , this is great

15:56

. I've never seen anything do this . Because , again , no

15:58

one was doing that on the news

16:01

anywhere in America at the time

16:03

. Now you see people dancing in the morning shows

16:05

. They were none of that back then . I then

16:07

the next night said I actually picked some

16:09

music and I had some music there

16:12

and it was more hip hop-ish and which I

16:14

thought would be funny , because I'm so not

16:16

hip hop when you look at me , you know , fade this up

16:18

in the middle . I asked the audio guy and

16:20

I told the director , and so we so , out of

16:22

nowhere , we just fade it up , and that allowed

16:25

me to get some weather information out , like the

16:27

serious , like informational part , and

16:29

then fade up and it , the

16:31

phones just lit up . People loved it

16:33

. I mean , it really became a sensation to

16:35

the point that I had different music

16:37

and the more awkward , the more gangster

16:39

the music , the funnier it was , you know

16:41

. And then it was picked up by the

16:43

national media , you know , and it was

16:45

extraordinary . And then during like Santa Ana

16:48

, winds or flooding or whatever I wouldn't do

16:50

it because it's just too serious a weather situation

16:52

to do that and the phones would

16:54

light up going how come Mark didn't dance Something

16:56

in ? Are you kidding ? There's

16:58

major loss of life here , potentially . That's

17:00

the reason that people wanted their

17:02

dancing . You know it's . The only reason I tune in

17:05

is to see Thompson dance . That's

17:07

how it happened , though it was born truly of

17:09

me just hating the fact that I had to

17:11

stay there till midnight .

17:12

Can I tell you a weatherman story ? I give you guys

17:14

both Southern California , so you may not be able

17:16

to relate to this , but during the wintertime , whenever

17:19

the weather forecast calls for any

17:21

amount of snow , notoriously Kroger

17:23

shelves are empty of bread and milk . A

17:26

good friend of mine was doing weather on the NBC

17:28

affiliate here in town and he does the six o'clock

17:30

and the 11 o'clock and of course he goes

17:32

home for dinner in between . On

17:34

his way home for dinner one night his wife called him and

17:37

said John , would you stop and get some bread

17:39

and milk ? So he only had an hour

17:41

to get home from Louisville to Indiana

17:43

and eat and then get back to Louisville . So

17:46

he was in a rush . He pulled into

17:48

the parking lot at Kroger , ran in and brought

17:50

bread and milk and started

17:52

a panic because the weatherman's

17:55

buying bread and milk .

17:56

That must mean that the snow's coming

17:58

. The end of the world as

18:00

we know it , that's great , that's

18:03

great , that's really great . Well

18:05

, the interesting thing that I found

18:07

after looking at this when

18:09

I first came to town and I heard this and some

18:12

of our friends were like you have to see Mark , you have to

18:14

watch him do this . By the way , your moves a

18:16

little uninspired , just you know

18:18

, just saying , and

18:22

I should be on , so you think you should dance .

18:24

Exactly Right .

18:25

Here's a dancing weatherman in Seattle . Here's

18:28

a dancing weatherman in Topeka . There

18:30

are dancing weathermen now all over the

18:32

country . But here's the thing that got me

18:34

the most of the six or seven clips

18:36

that are still sitting on the Internet . Easy

18:39

to get Mark Thompson Dancing Weatherman . You

18:41

have hundreds of

18:43

thousands of views

18:45

, seven , eight , nine hundred thousand

18:48

views on just those six or

18:50

seven clips . You must easily

18:52

have millions . And

18:54

you're still , and you're still schlepping

18:56

your mugs from behind you .

18:58

Well , I'll tell you this literally is the

19:00

first I've heard that there are that many views

19:02

on that stuff . I didn't post that stuff . That's posted

19:04

by other people , so I don't have a dollar from that stuff

19:06

. I love that . People got the word and

19:08

I also . People always would

19:11

send me links going look , this guy's doing this

19:13

now too in , as you say , in Toledo

19:15

, in wherever it was fun to sort

19:17

of have this spontaneous thing happen and

19:19

to see it as a contagion . You know that just took

19:21

off all over the country . But I don't know

19:24

, I didn't post that stuff . I don't get a dollar for it . It's

19:26

a shame I should have thought of you know again

19:28

, I just yeah , it didn't even occur to me , yeah .

19:29

It may not be too late . It may not

19:32

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And here we are , just as promised Back again

20:58

. I'm John Ashton . By the way , I get

21:00

confused , mark , too , that people keep asking me how

21:02

was it playing in Verily

21:05

Hills Cop ? I'm not that John Ashton . I

21:07

keep telling people , you know .

21:09

Not that , john Ashton . Yeah , I'm

21:11

Neil Michaels and I have absolutely no

21:13

dancing and no television background at all , john

21:15

has a Hollywood .

21:16

Look , I'll say that he does , doesn't he ? You

21:18

wanted to go that way . I mean , you know .

21:20

And and let's face it , Mark , for

21:23

those people who are watching on YouTube , John has

21:25

the best hair of anyone .

21:26

I've ever seen Gorgeous . It really is gorgeous

21:28

yeah .

21:29

If I could run my fingers . Never mind , we won't

21:31

go there .

21:34

Hey , I'm not sure I want to be involved in this

21:36

.

21:37

This is why it's good that we're all in different places . So

21:40

I want you to tell the story , because

21:42

even if people aren't radio people

21:44

, they totally will get

21:46

what happened to you the last day

21:48

at KGO .

21:50

Well , it was . I mean , this is a story that was

21:52

bizarre . A little bit bizarre

21:54

because this is a station you just need to know . If you

21:56

don't know KGO , a Legendary

21:59

station populated by legendary hosts

22:01

. I mean , I was really honored to be on it . So

22:03

this is a station in San Francisco , huge

22:06

reach across northern California , across the

22:08

Pacific Northwest , you know , south

22:10

into southern California people said that they picked

22:13

their station up in Hawaii and across the West , etc . So

22:15

it was that kind of powerful station but obviously

22:18

, as the internet developed and evolved

22:20

and you know , it chewed into KGO's audience

22:22

. But still , audience Came

22:25

to KGO for news talk and

22:27

you just need to know it's a legendary

22:29

station with a legacy of the sort

22:31

that I just described To the market and to listeners

22:33

. I was on the station for about three and

22:35

a half years and other hosts were there

22:37

for longer . But

22:39

I get a call just maybe , maybe

22:41

, seven minutes before we're supposed

22:44

to go on and it's from the

22:46

general manager and the program director

22:48

together and they'd never called me together . So

22:50

I knew it was bad right

22:52

and they said we have some bad news . This

22:54

is the last day for KGO , I think they said

22:57

, or something like this we're gonna KGO is going

22:59

away , maybe they said it that way and

23:01

they they seem legitimately Distraught

23:03

over it and I , of course , was devastated

23:06

by it and the audience you know was going

23:08

to be . And they said and here's what we want you

23:10

to do . And I we had like a brief conversation

23:12

, like maybe a minute , about

23:15

why , and you know , isn't there another way

23:17

, etc . They said , but here's what we need

23:19

you to do today . It's a sad day

23:22

, but we'll need you to go on as you

23:24

do right after the news

23:26

and we can't have any mention

23:28

of this before you , before

23:32

you sign off , and you'll do your show

23:34

until a quarter after the hour and

23:36

at exactly a quarter after the hour you

23:39

will give the station ID and

23:41

that's it . I said , really , you don't want to say anything

23:43

about this . It's kind of a big deal and you have a real

23:46

legacy in this market . I mean , it's it's sort

23:48

of unfair to the audience which has shown you loyalty

23:50

through the years . They said , no , we thought about this . We

23:53

know we're gonna take a hit , we know we're gonna

23:55

endure some bad publicity because we're

23:57

going away and we just need

23:59

to tear the band-aid off . And I said , yeah , but

24:01

you can't , we just care that . This is kind of a frantic conversation

24:03

I'm having now . It's like five minutes before I go on

24:06

and I say , look , I can play it as a positive

24:08

, you know , and I'll say , hey , there's a new

24:10

beginning here at KGO . I said , but

24:13

you've got to tell the audience that you're going away . Just I'm

24:15

just giving the idea and that there's no explanation on , all

24:17

of a sudden what something . Some

24:19

new station comes on . They said again

24:21

mark and we understand this , we had long

24:23

conversations about this please You'll just do

24:26

it the way we said . You'll be on for 15

24:28

minutes and then boom and one , do your normal show . Please

24:30

don't indicate anything to the audience . I

24:33

did what they asked . I was kind of in a fog about

24:35

it and I'm . They also said don't say anything

24:37

to anyone . The producer , the news person

24:39

, this is . You know they'll find we're having a meeting

24:42

. They were really obsessed with no

24:44

one knowing about it ahead of time and clearly

24:46

they're talking to me like right before I go on . So they

24:48

wanted even I was like the last minute . So

24:50

we go on . I forget what the hell . We talked about

24:52

some crap . Like you know , it's national

24:54

doughnut day or one of those things . You know . I mean

24:56

it was really ridiculous or maybe a couple of headlines

24:58

, and then they call the

25:01

producer and news person out of

25:03

the studio I didn't know this , but Kim

25:05

even said on the air my news person I don't

25:07

know I'm being called I said just go ahead

25:09

, do whatever you've got to do and I think

25:11

that you actually hear on our in

25:13

our last few minutes , which are posted on YouTube

25:15

etc . And then I did what

25:17

they asked . You know it was a real crisis

25:19

in my mind because I thought this is so

25:21

unfair and these guys don't realize this . We're gonna

25:24

get insane Blowback for not telling

25:26

the audience , not leveling with the audience there's

25:28

no downside to telling the audience this

25:30

, right . But I did what they asked

25:32

and I just gave the ID . That

25:35

was it . And then they started for four days

25:37

or three and a half days Running music

25:40

related to gaming and gambling

25:42

and money , and they became a sports

25:44

Gambling gaming station

25:46

. That's all that they run which

25:48

is indicated programming .

25:49

The fact that they turn this legendary

25:52

news station news talk station

25:54

into a sports gaming

25:56

station in a state that

25:58

doesn't allow sports gaming Makes

26:01

even less sense .

26:03

Yeah , there was gaming on the ballot

26:05

when they were doing this . To be fair , maybe they

26:07

thought it was gonna pass , although all the polling suggested

26:10

that it wasn't going to pass , and maybe it'll pass eventually

26:12

Illegalized gambling . But this is the kind

26:14

of thing that happens in broadcasting generally

26:16

now , because a whole bunch of stations

26:18

are Owned by one entity

26:21

in this case it was cumulus and they're you

26:23

know , I think they're headquartered in Atlanta , whatever

26:25

, and KGO , despite its legendary

26:27

status , is just one more station . Then

26:29

they just look at X's and O's in a bottom line

26:32

and go hey look , we can fire all these producers

26:34

, call screeners , board ops , hosts

26:36

, save all this money , run syndicated programming

26:39

out of New York or wherever it comes from , and then that's

26:41

it . And if they had local ownership

26:43

, the station would still be on the air . I'm a hundred

26:45

percent sure of that .

26:46

I bring this up because your career

26:49

has been so Incredible and

26:51

and again as a friend following

26:53

you with idle and with with

26:56

the television that you've done . So I think

26:58

about what happened with KGO and it's so

27:00

unusual but not as unusual

27:02

necessarily as say , oh , I don't

27:04

know , being the guy who worked on

27:06

celebrity daredevils With

27:09

Robbie Keneval who had

27:11

at one point jumped over a portion of the Grand

27:13

Canyon . At some point he jumped over

27:15

an oncoming train , but

27:17

you were the guy who

27:20

was the announcer when Fox

27:22

ran this and they didn't

27:24

do a jump . So they asked

27:26

you to fill for an entire

27:28

hour , knowing he wasn't gonna

27:31

do a jump .

27:31

That was wild . By the way , you're

27:34

so lovely , first of all , to remember this

27:36

stuff so fondly . It really was a wild

27:38

time when these type things

27:40

, these daredevil things it wasn't that long ago

27:42

. It doesn't feel like to me but I guess right does

27:44

it . But the industry changes and taste

27:47

change or whatever . But everybody came to the

27:49

set and watched this daredevil

27:51

type things . We did that celebrity daredevil live

27:53

with Angie Eberhardt and Dennis Rodman

27:55

and that stuff still out there was . That was wild . And

27:58

then this Robbie Keneval stuff . So the Keneval stuff

28:00

was that was real . I mean , if he was

28:02

jumping from one ramp to the other and he

28:04

did a building-to-building jump , which I love , which

28:06

you can find , I think , on YouTube . That was my favorite

28:09

jump he did . But the one

28:11

that was in the Grand Canyon was

28:13

hit by bad weather . Okay

28:15

, so it had snowed the night before

28:17

and they set up this kind of mini village with

28:20

all of these trucks and we all slept out there

28:22

and we were there for a few days and then this

28:24

storm hits and it snowed

28:26

just like a blanket of snow , like not a ton

28:29

of snow , but maybe you've got a dusting , might

28:31

maybe what you call it and they cleaned

28:33

off the ramps and they tried to dry

28:35

out the ramp . So he's got a takeoff ramp and a

28:37

landing ramp right . We're about a

28:39

half hour out before the show goes live

28:41

again , so it's like 430 . It goes

28:43

live at 5 . The network executive

28:45

comes to me and he says Robbie

28:48

feels that the ramps are too wet

28:50

to go with the jump

28:52

Safely , because if he

28:55

accelerates on that ramp and

28:57

the wheels don't take , you know , because

28:59

of whatever moisture is there , he

29:01

won't make the gap and he'll die

29:04

.

29:05

And that would

29:07

be good TV , but we Well

29:11

, if he , if he doesn't jump , the show is

29:13

gonna die .

29:15

John's thinking like an executive Executive

29:18

, but on the positive side . I feel

29:20

bad for him , there'll

29:25

be a lot of buzz about this . The

29:28

executive said so he's decided not to

29:30

jump . He said but we're going live

29:32

and you can't say

29:35

that he is not gonna jump

29:37

, because if you say he's not going to jump

29:39

, no one will watch , right , he said . But

29:42

he said I don't want you to say that he

29:44

is going to jump , because if you say he is

29:46

gonna jump , that's a lie , because I've just told you he's

29:48

not gonna jump . And then he paused

29:50

. I never get the moment . There's like a beat . He

29:53

looks at me and he taps me on the side of my like

29:55

right here he went . So good luck , it

30:01

was great . But here is the amazing

30:03

part of this . The show did a 25

30:06

share . I ran into the head of so

30:08

he didn't jump . Okay , there was

30:10

a weird . We did all these things , all the Rollins

30:13

who are gonna do like if he goes too far in

30:15

the jump , it he'll end up like this if he goes too

30:17

short of the jump . They had all that stuff pre done , all

30:19

the animation and everything . So all that stuff ran . I

30:21

remember the most challenging thing was right before

30:24

the end of the show , like 10 minutes before we're about to go

30:26

off , which is when he would normally jump . We

30:28

have a shot of Knievel in

30:31

his trailer and it's

30:33

just a Slowly . The camera zooms

30:35

in on him and I remember I was thinking what do

30:37

I say ? Because I can't . So I said I Said

30:40

there it is the face of Robbie

30:42

Knievel . One can only imagine

30:45

what's going through his mind right

30:47

now . We'll be back you . So

30:50

I don't really , you know , didn't really commit one

30:52

way or the other . And then he came on , explained why he wasn't

30:55

going to jump . But I remember running into the president

30:57

of ABC at some wrestling event

30:59

. It was a weird thing . Later that week , after

31:01

we've been on , and he said he said that was amazing

31:04

. He said you guys did like basically a weather report

31:06

, talking about how the conditions were changing . And

31:08

then he said and you guys still did a 25

31:10

sharey . So that's just amazing , it

31:12

can happen .

31:13

Yeah , it wasn't like you were in front of you know , like

31:15

Al Capone's vault or anything like that .

31:19

It was Al Capone's vault . Yes , though

31:21

I have to say yeah .

31:23

The thing that's amazing about that is it's almost

31:25

like the KGO thing gave you training

31:27

for that . Ok , we're going to do something

31:29

. We don't want you to say this particular

31:32

thing . We want you to basically tread water

31:34

for a little while and then keep our fingers

31:36

crossed and hope it works out .

31:37

Yeah , yeah , no , that it's interesting that you put it

31:39

that way and then I hadn't thought about it that way , but

31:42

it's true . I mean , it's just weird that the business

31:44

is odd and you , you have to just bite

31:46

your tongue on some things and and you know , and

31:48

smile and go through with it .

31:50

Yeah , that's exactly what you're

31:52

going to feel like next when

31:54

we do the six pack for Mark Thompson

31:56

. Two time Emmy Award winner

31:58

, mark Thompson . Multiple Golden Mike

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none of that prepares you for

32:05

the six pack .

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Thompson . You ready for a six

33:31

pack ? I guess Six

33:34

pack . What we do with a six pack

33:36

is I ask you questions , six

33:38

of them , hence the name . We fire them off at

33:41

you as quickly as possible . We ask you to give us your

33:43

very first thought . No

33:45

, thinking about it , no him and on . If you do , you'll hear

33:47

me go , and that's

33:49

frankly . We're too cheap to buy an actual

33:51

buzzer Before we

33:53

do the six pack . You said you had a story , though .

33:56

Oh , I have a . I feel like I'm duty bound

33:58

to provide some golf anecdote

34:02

, which is a provide quickly because it's a golf

34:04

show .

34:04

Why we call it a golf flavored podcast

34:06

. It's not necessary , but

34:09

yes , if you have a story , for goodness

34:11

sake , please tell it .

34:12

I was working in San Francisco at

34:14

Kron , to which

34:17

we've referred earlier in the conversation . I

34:19

was kind of a higher profile

34:21

personality in town , which is important

34:23

because it explains why I get this

34:25

call one day , and it's from

34:28

the people who run the Pebble Beach Golf

34:30

Tournament . At that time I think it was called

34:32

the AT&T Classic . I don't know what it's called

34:34

now . They said hi , mark , there's

34:36

a major league pitcher that was scheduled

34:38

to be in a foursome for the

34:41

pro am . He can't make it

34:43

, and someone suggested that we call you

34:45

and I wondered if it's possible for you

34:47

to fill in . It's a , I forget . She

34:49

described how many days you'd have to be there , whatever

34:51

it was , and I said , wow , I'm just

34:53

blown away by the request

34:55

. I mean I know that's a legendary tournament and

34:58

I said I must tell you I don't really play

35:00

golf . And she said , well , you

35:02

don't have to worry about that . I mean there are a lot of people who are

35:04

not that good . We play closest ball

35:06

or something . You probably understand all this stuff , or you play close

35:08

, so you'll be yeah . And

35:11

I said , well , ok , hold on one second

35:13

, because I thought , oh , on the inside I'm thinking , oh , my

35:15

God , this is huge . You know I've

35:17

watched this . There are a lot of celebrities

35:19

there . It's going to be amazing . I can't believe these

35:21

people are calling me . This is outstanding

35:23

. So I put them on hold and I

35:25

turned to the sports guy and I said , hey

35:28

, if I eight hours a day

35:30

worked with a pro because

35:32

this tournament is not for about five

35:34

weeks , I think it was could I get

35:37

good enough to at least not embarrass

35:39

myself ? If I ? I mean , I'm telling you that's all I did

35:41

all day is take

35:43

these classes with a pro to not

35:46

embarrass myself and play a golf

35:48

tournament and not embarrass myself . I didn't mention it , I don't

35:50

think that . And he said absolutely not

35:52

. No way , it takes a lot . I mean

35:54

it's really hard to learn golf

35:56

, to get even anywhere in the neighborhood

35:58

of acceptable . He said it would be , it

36:01

would be awful , I said . I said

36:03

really , I mean , even if he said , no , you

36:05

cannot do it , so I go pick up the

36:07

phone again and I said , hey

36:09

, I just don't think I can do it , I just don't

36:12

play , you know . And she said again

36:14

you don't need to . I said no , no , you don't understand . I mean , unless

36:16

there's a windmill going by and

36:18

I hit the little cup . That's

36:20

the only golf I've really ever played . And

36:22

I said it breaks my heart because I know what

36:24

a prestigious event this is , but I

36:27

just can't join you . So that is as close

36:29

as I've ever come to a major golf event .

36:31

You came on here and your golf story

36:33

is about not playing golf .

36:38

I felt I needed some story

36:40

related to golf . That's your thread .

36:42

Yes , that's your thread .

36:44

Yes , sorry .

36:44

Me going on a weather forecast with

36:46

you and saying , hey , I think I just felt

36:49

a breeze come through the room

36:51

.

36:52

I don't know if it's quite like that , but all right , it's

36:54

not at all like that .

36:55

All right , six pack , Are you ready

36:57

? Yes , sir , yes sir , Go for it . Question

36:59

one if you could have a beer

37:01

and talk with anyone

37:03

at any time in history about

37:05

anything , who would it be and

37:08

why ?

37:08

Oh my God that's look

37:10

at you , thinking what are you like Einstein ? I would say

37:12

Albert Einstein , Really . Yeah

37:15

, I think that that guy was amazing

37:17

. I think he's a brilliant mathematician

37:19

, philosopher , had

37:22

a vision of the universe , had a vision of society

37:24

, had a vision of culture . I think he'd be a fascinating

37:26

guy just to talk to . Since you can just talk to him

37:29

in your hypothetical . Yeah , I think

37:31

that would be really fascinating . And he's someone from the modern

37:33

age . So someone said well , I'd like to talk to Julius Caesar

37:35

. And like , what are you going to talk to Julius Caesar

37:37

about ? You know what I mean . So

37:40

I like Einstein . He's close enough to where

37:42

we are in the modern age that I feel I

37:44

could speak with him .

37:45

I like that . I like that and this is how we can

37:47

tell that you grew up in news

37:49

and talk and things

37:52

that are headier than sports , because most

37:54

people , when we ask that , would say Babe Ruth .

37:56

Oh , that's interesting , yeah , question

37:59

two .

38:00

Which one idol contestant

38:02

do you remember rooting for , and who

38:04

did you root against ?

38:06

I really rooted for

38:08

Adam Lambert . I

38:10

thought Adam Lambert was a phenom

38:12

and is a phenom . He totally is . Adam

38:15

Lambert for those who don't know had

38:17

a because I didn't know it at the time had

38:20

this career , small C on career

38:22

. He wasn't a big star at all , but in musical

38:24

theater . So you know , all of these people came

38:26

from different backgrounds and as Idle evolved

38:29

you found people who were already

38:31

playing small clubs or had a band

38:33

already . So it's not as though these people are just going

38:35

to discover it in some rural

38:37

town in Oklahoma . They all you

38:40

know now that might have been a rural town in Oklahoma , but they had

38:42

a band there already , type thing . And so

38:44

Lambert came out of this musical theater thing

38:46

. But I just felt as though he had so

38:49

much range and he could blow the back

38:51

off the place if he had to with power , or

38:54

he could play it small . I thought he was

38:56

brilliant and I'll remind everybody he actually

38:58

didn't win . He finished second . But that

39:00

was the guy I thought , wow , I really

39:02

want him to win . There was no one I rooted

39:05

against . That's the truth . I literally never

39:07

rooted against anyone on Idol .

39:09

I mean , is that true ? Because , as a viewer

39:11

, there are a lot of people I rooted against .

39:13

There were people who , I

39:15

mean , were you know , I guess

39:17

maybe more difficult personalities . Certainly

39:19

in the auditions you root against . Yes

39:22

, actually

39:25

, once they made it , once you get to the 10

39:27

, I was kind of I never really rooted

39:29

against .

39:29

You were excited about William Hung .

39:32

At least he had a shtick . You know

39:34

what I mean that is shtick . That is true

39:36

. I used to sit with Simon

39:39

in the audio booth sometimes during

39:41

the rehearsals and watch the rehearsals

39:43

, because that's what they would do . They'd watch Simon

39:45

did anyway . I don't know what the I don't know at that time it

39:47

was early on in the first four seasons it was Randy

39:49

, simon and Paula . I don't know what Randy and Paula

39:52

did , but Simon and I would sit there

39:54

in the and watch the rehearsals and that

39:56

was kind of fun to see people who

39:58

you know were great in rehearsal but

40:01

didn't really hit the ball when it came to

40:03

the big time when we were on live

40:05

, or people who were really great

40:07

in both or whatever it was . It was . It was

40:09

a cool time . Idol is a fascinating phenomenon

40:11

. Still continues , right .

40:12

Absolutely is yeah . Question three

40:15

you have one of the great voices

40:17

in broadcasting . I say that as a brother , but

40:19

I also say that as somebody who you know loves

40:21

your voice . Thank you . If you could

40:24

pull an Ursula from Little Mermaid

40:26

and trade voices with

40:28

somebody for a day , who would

40:30

you trade with ?

40:32

Well , I'll tell you who I think is amazing

40:34

with a voice is it's

40:36

Keith David . He's the . I want to make

40:38

sure I didn't get . Keith David is

40:40

a guy who Is

40:43

an actor and if you can

40:46

, you can Google him and I can't even do

40:48

an impression of his voice . He has , he has

40:50

a kind of a . He has a low end

40:52

with a , a texture

40:54

to it that's fascinating and he's so

40:57

talented . He was in a movie , the thing he plays

40:59

opposite Kurt Russell in the thing

41:01

. That's an old movie , but he's

41:03

. He was in the

41:05

Benster . Is it the Ben

41:07

Stiller movie with Something

41:10

about Mary . Something about Mary . He was in

41:12

that okay . So watch that movie . He plays

41:14

the father Mary to Markey post

41:16

. I think he's the mother . Anyway , keith David has a great

41:19

voice . I would trade with him . I

41:21

think it's just a it's . It's

41:23

a delicious voice , it really is love

41:25

that .

41:26

Yeah , the Barry White of speaking . Thank

41:28

you . Okay question for who

41:30

have you never Interviewed

41:32

but are dying to ?

41:34

oh , I mean a lot of people . I mean a lot

41:37

of people . There are a bunch of people who are

41:39

, you know , pull a surprise winners and columnists

41:41

that I'd like to get on . I Just

41:44

great thinkers . I I'd

41:46

. I don't even know where to start . I'll

41:48

tell you somebody who I thought I can and I may still

41:51

get . I'd like to talk to Bob Costas . I

41:53

think a lot . Costus is a Really

41:55

smart guy . He's seen so much

41:57

. He's reported from the Olympics . He's reported

42:00

and and done a play-by-play

42:02

Baseball has been true . He could do all

42:04

sports right football , baseball , etc . If

42:06

I could book him on my show , I

42:09

really would love it . I've been trying to and will

42:11

continue to try . We had him on

42:13

KFI in Los Angeles and I thought

42:15

that would be the way that I get him over to my show . So it

42:17

may still happen , but I think , costus , I'm

42:19

a broadcaster so I may be cheap toward

42:22

broadcasters , but I feel as though he would . Really

42:24

he's seen more . With all

42:26

the stuff he's done , from Olympics to Baseball

42:29

, through all the various controversies , I think

42:31

he'd be a fascinating conversation you know I

42:33

think that is an Incredible choice

42:35

.

42:36

I've never been a huge fan of his

42:38

, strangely , because I think sometimes

42:40

he talks over the audience's head

42:42

. I'll tell you just this that this is a

42:44

you and me talking . Nobody else is listening to

42:46

this part . I wanted to get Charlie Steiner

42:48

on . He was into it and said

42:50

I love the idea , but I don't play

42:52

golf . So we kind of like let

42:55

it go and the only person we've ever had

42:57

on that doesn't play golf is

42:59

you . And it's because

43:01

you said it's kind of funny that I

43:03

don't play golf . It's kind of a thing we could

43:06

actually make a thing about it . So now it

43:08

opens up a conversation with guys

43:10

like Charlie .

43:10

Steiner that I did it . Yeah , that's right

43:12

Right .

43:13

I'm son said listen , yeah , do

43:15

this , and we could actually make a bit about it . Yeah

43:17

.

43:17

Charlie , if I can do it , you can certainly

43:20

do it . I mean , you got a lot more to talk about what

43:22

Charlie Steiner is . Amazing talent to you're right

43:24

. It's sort of an adjacent to cost

43:26

us , so I can see why the two would connect . Yeah , yep

43:28

.

43:29

Question five your YouTube videos is a

43:31

dancing weatherman , has hundreds of thousands

43:33

of views , as I said , and I'm guessing

43:35

it's probably closer to a million . What

43:38

gimmick are you cooking up now to

43:40

get more viewers or the mark of the Mark

43:42

Thompson show on YouTube ?

43:44

I Do need a gimmick

43:46

. I need a gimmick , I do . I

43:48

don't have anything right now and

43:50

I'm troubled by the fact that I don't , but

43:52

it's very funny . You should say this because people

43:55

are saying to me who have been in the YouTube universe

43:57

for a while Listen , we're

43:59

seeing the numbers on the Mark Thompson show begin

44:02

to creep up it . What's gonna happen is you just

44:04

keep doing it and one day it pops something

44:06

and really I think you need that

44:08

special sauce or something Like

44:10

the dancing weatherman . But yeah , I

44:12

don't know what it is yet and

44:14

so I don't . I wish I could tell you and I

44:16

would Welcome the opportunity

44:18

to share it with you , but I don't . Right now , all I've got

44:20

is the mugs and the merge . Yeah

44:23

, I mean , that doesn't seem to be getting a job done

44:25

.

44:25

So well , you know what ? Right now

44:27

, the mugs in the merch are behind you . Yes

44:30

, I think maybe your bit could

44:32

be Using the mug

44:34

wearing a hat , wearing an apron

44:37

, something like that . Or , you know

44:39

, if you're really digging this

44:41

whole golf idea , now that you're into it

44:43

, you could do some golf swings

44:45

While you're there , get a golf club

44:48

and show people how really terrible you

44:50

are , and

44:52

maybe that'll do it .

44:53

There are monogram golf

44:55

, as you know , golf balls I

44:57

could get . Maybe that's a new piece of merch

45:00

that I should look into . Yeah , I just

45:02

found my yesterday . Actually , just funny

45:04

, I'm gonna . I guess I don't have it . I

45:07

found Shots

45:09

this is so coincidental of me on

45:11

a golf course getting out of a sand

45:13

trap . But I was with my girlfriend in

45:16

Hawaii on the big island and I was

45:18

just messing around . But it would have been fun to

45:20

, in this moment , have it available , but I don't

45:22

.

45:23

I'm sorry , I've let you down yet again , yep

45:25

, and I think , maybe one other

45:27

idea , since you were the dancing weatherman

45:30

, uh-huh , and since we know you sang

45:32

on , so you think you can dance .

45:34

Uh-huh .

45:34

Maybe you could become the singing newsman

45:37

.

45:39

That feels like a one-off to me , but it might

45:41

. It might work .

45:42

Again , you could have Listeners

45:44

, maybe send in what song they wanted

45:46

you to sing .

45:47

Oh , that's a thought . Uh

45:50

, here is . Here's the shot that I wanted for you

45:52

. Oh , you see me .

45:55

I'm actually look like you know what you're

45:57

doing .

45:58

I know the backswing looks kind of you know . Yeah

46:00

, thankfully it's only a still picture . Keep

46:05

the gimmicks coming . I'll take any and all there

46:07

you go .

46:08

This is the longest six pack there's ever been oh

46:10

, is that finally , question six . We asked this

46:12

to everybody who comes on the show , since we

46:14

are the approach shot . Mark Thompson , in

46:16

your approach to life , what

46:19

one rule do you live by ?

46:22

Embrace resentment , my friends , it

46:24

will be your friend . No , I Look

46:27

what it did for you . Don't yes

46:29

, I would say don't live with it , though it's

46:31

, uh , don't take it all too

46:33

too seriously . I

46:35

I'm just being honest , I don't have a life philosophy

46:38

, mm-hmm . But um , I'm pretty

46:40

good to everybody . I mean , if somebody says , well

46:42

, mark Thompson was a real jerk to me , that

46:45

had to be a moment because I think I'm pretty good

46:47

to everybody , it took my detriment , but

46:49

, um , I don't know if that served

46:52

me well . So maybe that's not a good , that's not

46:54

good life advice . You know , maybe you shouldn't be good

46:56

to everybody , but I think I've been Fairly

46:58

cool to everybody , you know . So I mean

47:00

, I've just lived that . It hasn't been deliberate , it's

47:02

just sort of who . You know the way I'm wired . But

47:05

there you go , mark Thompson

47:07

, you felt like a self-serving comment there

47:09

, but that really is the truth .

47:11

You are off what turned out to be not

47:13

a hot seat at all , not even close

47:15

to hot . That was Luke Wormitt pest

47:17

. If you're in a position where

47:20

now I'm the host again , two things I want

47:22

you to do . One for all of the

47:24

people in San Francisco and Los

47:26

Angeles and on the west coast . What they

47:28

don't understand on the west coast is , by putting

47:31

a k in front , they take

47:33

the most fun letter out

47:35

of the alphabet for an announcer . So

47:37

I want you to give me the call letters

47:39

of your Buffalo television station . The

47:42

call letters were wkbw

47:44

, wkbw , buffalo

47:46

W is a strong , strong

47:49

letter and I cannot let you off

47:51

the show without doing the intro

47:53

for idle .

47:54

So the intro is the idle . To got a little something

47:56

behind it , I'll share it with you . The intro the

47:58

idle had a pause in it that I

48:00

started and that's secret

48:03

stole . And here it

48:05

is . It was um . Last night

48:07

they sang their hearts out . Tonight

48:09

one goes home , who

48:11

stays , who goes Find

48:14

out . Next live On

48:17

American idle . So the

48:19

lot . But this pause between live

48:21

and on American idle . I

48:23

put that in there and now she crest does it .

48:26

Loved having you here . How can people find

48:28

the show on youtube ?

48:30

It's the mark tomsen show . You can just find it on youtube . Put

48:32

in the search the mark tomsen show . We do a lot

48:34

of politics but we also do other stuff and fun

48:37

stuff . Had an author on today , but there's definitely

48:39

some heavy stuff we talk about . You know a lot of the heavy stuff

48:41

going on in the world , but it's it's talk . It's like

48:43

kjo radio . I took the radio show from

48:45

the radio to youtube but it's the mark tomsen

48:47

show and from that you'll uh

48:50

, you'll find all things mark , thanks so much

48:52

for being with us .

48:53

I love seeing you , man .

48:54

It really was great .

48:55

Let's do it again soon indeed , you've

48:57

been listening to the approach shot with the weekend

48:59

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49:01

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