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This is the athletic hockey
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show. It's
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going on everybody. Welcome to another fantastic
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edition of the athletic hockey show,
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The When day round table
3:02
edition. I am Rob Bezel from CBC
3:04
Sports. Joined as always
3:06
by Jesse Granger in Vegas and
3:08
Russo in I'm assuming still
3:11
New Jersey. Correct? Yeah. I
3:14
get catch a train. Actually, our guests today,
3:16
Matt has a train rate at the same
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time as mine. Unfortunately, I don't get to go
3:20
on the really cool charter train
3:22
that the Minnesota Wild gets to go on. I'm
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on a on a regular trained
3:27
with all the us folks.
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Doesn't look like it though. Does it Jesse? We were joking
3:31
right before we started recording this podcast. Russo's
3:33
usually got a hat on, a t shirt, whatever
3:35
he looks all. I'll gussied up. People
3:38
could see it now on the YouTube channel for for the
3:40
athletic hockey
3:41
show. But, yeah, it it didn't look like you actually dressed
3:43
up for the train trip. Looks
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like he's ready for a charter train. Yeah.
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Exactly. It's like the forties. When
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they used to, like, you get on an airplane or a train,
3:51
you put a suit on, but
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Yeah. As as it was actually
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mentioned -- Yeah. Go
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ahead.
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-- like like the the full disclosure is
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that it's two game trip, I only brought one
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sports coat, so I sorta have to wear the
4:04
sports coat on the
4:05
train. And because of that, I couldn't put
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on a sweatshirt or something like that. So there you
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go. Oh, people are gonna tune in
4:11
to see how you look now. But as you mentioned, Matt Boldy's
4:13
be joining us from Minnesota Wild. And
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sometimes just things work out
4:18
in favor of whoever books
4:20
a guest. I don't know how
4:22
you can have a better lead up for
4:24
a guest who has Patrick, and then follows
4:26
that up with a buzzer beater in overtime. But that's
4:29
what Matt Boldy's done his last two games. He's gonna celebrate
4:31
by talking to
4:32
us. So make sure you tune into that one.
4:34
In the second half of the show. That's
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the first thing I said to him in posting locker.
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I'm like, man, we took a good day to have you on the podcast
4:41
in the morning. How much are you looking forward to that?
4:43
Just just crazy. But we
4:45
we we go through everything throughout the week as
4:47
as regular listeners know. So we've got to talk
4:50
little bit about everything. And when, you know,
4:52
we usually just to let people know how this show
4:54
kinda works. We have a document, and
4:56
we're constantly adding and subtracting stories
4:58
that we wanna talk about. And then there's always the question
5:00
of order. And at least for me
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guys, when a Wayne Gretzky
5:05
record gets broken, I
5:07
put it at the top of the show. So gonna put this
5:09
at the top of the show. I know we've talked a lot
5:11
about Alexander Ovechkin and his goal
5:13
scoring prowess over his seventeen years in
5:15
the
5:15
NHL. But last night, he scored
5:18
his fortieth goal of the season.
5:19
His thirteenth forty
5:22
goal season passing the great one
5:24
for the most in NHL history
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Of course, Gretzky had forty goals in
5:29
twelve of his twenty NHL seasons.
5:32
Ovechkin cancer has at least forty goals.
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In all but three of his sixteen
5:37
full NHL seasons. The only time he did
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score forty, two thousand ten,
5:41
two thousand eleven, and that brief what's
5:43
wrong with Alexandria Ovechkin phase? Then
5:46
in two thousand twelve, two thousand thirteen,
5:48
when it was shortened by a lockout, And
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then in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one when
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the season was short because of COVID. So, really,
5:54
guys, this
5:56
speaks to what we always talk about without general
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etiquette. Elite goal scorer, but
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the most consistent goal scorer
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ever, and now he's got the numbers to prove it.
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Russo will start with
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you. Yeah. I mean, look, he scored
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two against the wild the other night and and he does
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it. I mean, I've never seen a guy that
6:13
you know where he's gonna shoot from and he
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just scores. I mean, it's just It truly
6:17
is amazing. And as you mentioned, Rob, I mean,
6:19
imagine what his numbers would be at. We'd
6:22
probably be talking already as as him as
6:24
the we I don't think probably
6:26
would be as the all time leading gold score
6:28
in NHL history already. If it wasn't for those
6:30
two three interrupted seasons that he's had,
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He's just, you know, to me,
6:36
the best goal score that I've ever seen
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in my in my days covering this sport.
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I was laughing when you were introducing him because when
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he scored two goals the other night against Washington Mark
6:46
Parrish was doing pre and post that I told him I was
6:48
gonna start calling him up. Two
6:50
time almost thirty goal score because
6:53
he because he because he had twenty nine
6:55
one year and and, obviously,
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top thirty the other time. Sorry. Sorry, Perry.
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And I Boldy's the way, Audra Martin to open
7:03
every segment with Mark Parish by saying that
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from now on. But he's just
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a special guy. That's why the Florida Panthers tried
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to draft him in the, like, the fifth seventh and ninth rounds
7:11
in two thousand three.
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Yeah. You mentioned how many times
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he's obviously had the forty goal
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season now. To me, the most impressive part about
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it is all those seasons that Gretzky
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had with forty or more goals. Not
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a single one came after he was thirty.
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His his last forty goal season was
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in his thirty year old season. And
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is now doing it at thirty seven, and this
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is the fifth time he
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scored forty or more since he
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turned thirty. Just incredible.
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Like, you look at these two players careers. We're
7:43
obviously gonna compare them till
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the end of times right now, the way
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he's chasing his record. That's what
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really stands out is the fact that Ovechkin
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is doing this at a much older
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age than Gretzky did. Obviously,
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Gretzky racked up a lot more goals early in his
7:58
career, but the
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longevity of Ovechkin cancer's goal
8:02
scoring ability is ridiculous.
8:04
With no signs of showing slowing down,
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in any way, shape, or form. That's it. It's not
8:09
as if we're seeing that slow decline
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where suddenly a thirty
8:13
goal season is a big deal, a twenty five
8:15
goal season is a big deal. No signs of
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slowing down. And how many
8:19
people could say they have a chance in one season
8:21
to break two Gretzky goal scoring records? Because
8:24
if Alexander or Bedford is able to score ten more
8:26
goals, in Washington's final ten
8:28
games, which is not out of the realm of possibility.
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He will pass Gretzky and Mike Bossy for
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the most fifty goal seasons
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with ten. And I I've heard a lot of
8:38
people I saw last night on Twitter too kind of
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mocking the forty goal season. Like, really, are
8:42
we counting forty goal seasons? The
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fifty goal season is the benchmark. If he
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could if he scores ten more goals and you have
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more forty, and fifty goal seasons
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than anyone in history. I don't
8:54
care if he retires
8:55
tomorrow. He's the greatest goal scorer that
8:57
ever lived. You know what? I've
8:59
wondered, awesome, off often, and I
9:01
I love one day Jesse for you to ask George
9:03
McPhoebe this. But I wonder if Alex
9:05
regrets that thirteen year, a
9:07
hundred and twenty, what was a twenty four
9:09
million dollar deal that he signed in, like, two thousand
9:12
eight? Because you I mean, if you think
9:14
about it, he's made made nine and a half pretty
9:16
much his entire career. And,
9:18
I mean, this is a guy that should be a fourteen,
9:20
fifteen million dollar player, all the Simon. He
9:22
got ahead of the game, the caps I thought did a
9:24
great contract at the time. Think at the time,
9:27
a lot of people like, whoa, what are you doing? But
9:29
in in hindsight, you know, you kinda wonder
9:31
if George McPhee feels like that was one of
9:33
the best business decisions he's ever
9:35
made. Yeah. I mean, he
9:37
he's making money from those life insurance commercials
9:39
though with if getting his hats off though. Right? So
9:41
he'll be alright. Good point.
9:44
So the eyes will still be on Alexanderovitch
9:47
kit. He's sitting at eight twenty. Gretz kit eight
9:49
ninety four and records are followed
9:52
let's keep moving on, guys. Head out
9:54
to Colorado because Jared
9:56
Bednar gonna be sticking around there.
9:59
Probably for the next few years, signed a three
10:01
year extension with the avalanche,
10:04
you know, you look at what he's done in his
10:06
career. Just wins at every level. He's the
10:08
only coach ever to win an ECHL title,
10:11
Kelly Cup, with the South Carolina stingrays
10:13
in 09A Calder Cup title with
10:16
the Lake Erie Monsters in twenty sixteen,
10:18
and then, of course, that big silver trophy
10:20
they give out at the end of every NHL season.
10:23
And it seems like just yesterday
10:25
going into the playoffs last year, people were saying
10:27
if this team doesn't make a run, his
10:30
his job is in serious jeopardy, and now he's
10:32
got a little bit more a little bit more of a
10:34
cushion with this three year
10:35
extension. What your thoughts on this, Jesse? Yeah.
10:38
I'll admit I was one of the people who
10:40
was I don't wanna say low
10:42
on Jared Bednar because I didn't think he was a bad
10:44
coach, but I thought he was I thought the
10:46
avalanche were under forming under him. I
10:48
was pretty critical of Bednar, especially the
10:51
year before they lost to Vegas. So
10:53
I was up up close watching this.
10:55
When they lost to the Golden Knights in
10:57
the second round, and it just
11:00
felt like he got out coached. Like, I thought he
11:02
wasn't making adjustments. The Golden Knights started
11:04
shutting them down was on and they really struggled. And
11:06
I was I was one of the people
11:08
saying, if he doesn't get it done this year,
11:10
you've got to find another coach because this team is
11:12
too talented and he clearly has found a way
11:14
to get it done. And then now this year, sometimes
11:17
coaches have
11:19
to do their best coaching in years that aren't as
11:21
impressive, like this isn't the president's
11:23
trophy that they've had the last couple seasons.
11:26
But With all these injuries, he's had
11:28
to do a lot more coaching this year than in
11:30
past years, you look down this line up and there are
11:32
a lot of young players playing major roles
11:34
for this team. And they're still finding a way
11:36
to be in playoff position. I
11:39
saw last year of Vegas when big players
11:41
go down, it's very easy to miss the
11:43
playoffs. And this team has not done
11:45
that. I think Bednar has done a great job
11:47
and I've definitely turned around my opinion.
11:50
was one of the people kinda saying he should be on the hot
11:52
seat not anymore. He he deserves a three year
11:54
extension. He's a great coach.
11:55
And if you remember when he was originally hired,
11:58
it was what August of two thousand and
12:00
I think sixteen. And
12:03
I was actually in front of the Pepsi Center
12:05
at the time when Patrick Waught resigned
12:07
suddenly. That earlier couple
12:09
of weeks earlier, I was, like, up there for trample
12:11
by turtles concert or something. And
12:14
and I was trying and I was driving up to
12:16
up the mountain to go to this
12:18
concert. And all of a sudden, the news comes out
12:20
right in front of the Pepsi center. That Patrick
12:23
Walk quit, and you're just like, what the heck?
12:25
Two weeks later, they hired Jared Bedard straight
12:27
off the cauldron cup, if I remember correctly. But
12:30
I remember that first year, they had, like, twenty
12:32
two wins. They had, like, forty something points.
12:35
Everybody is, like, this guy must be the worst coach
12:37
in the world they lose the lottery and
12:39
fall into that awful defenseman, Kalimakar.
12:43
You know, like like and and you just
12:45
you you start to think, like, you know, you
12:47
know, next year, they get forty wins. I think
12:49
they they they lost in the first round. But
12:52
you just wondered, like, alright, at some point
12:54
though, will there be that time where Joe
12:56
Saket and eventually Chris McFarlane make
12:58
that move and hire the coach that they probably
13:01
wanted to be the heir apparent to Bednar when they
13:03
first hired him. Sometimes he think
13:05
as a placeholder. And he's
13:08
they were patient with him. I
13:10
think he's grown as a coach. We've seen him
13:12
hold his stars accountable. And he's just
13:14
got this presence, you know, just being around them during
13:16
this Stanley Cup on a last year when I was covering
13:18
it for us. Like, he's just he does
13:20
have this really cool presence about this
13:22
team, and he could shore coach. And and,
13:25
you know, I think it's a great move by the organization
13:27
to get him locked down, obviously. And I
13:29
think that we're starting see a Colorado team
13:31
right now that's just primed to
13:34
take over this conference. They're on fire.
13:36
I think they're gonna win the division. And
13:38
there's just there's just that team
13:40
right now is I think maybe
13:42
earlier this year when they were banged up, got also
13:44
got a little bored Now they're suddenly realizing
13:47
they got their eye on what really matters, and
13:49
it's a second straight
13:50
cup, and we'll see if they could do it. Well,
13:52
that leads us into that. Let let's talk a little bit about
13:55
the playoff races because we're certainly at the point
13:57
of the year where I
13:59
don't know about you guys. I'm constantly looking
14:01
at standings way more than I do any other time.
14:03
Especially, you look at the west. I mean,
14:06
you you take the teams that are in the top three positions
14:08
in division, you add the four teams
14:10
that are battling for a wildcard spot
14:13
and the number of points that separate
14:15
them are sitting at a grand total of
14:17
twelve, which is just bananas
14:19
in the west. AAA5 or six game winning
14:22
streak. And suddenly, you you go from
14:24
a wildcard team to first overall
14:26
it in the in the the conference.
14:29
What's most intriguing to? We'll start the West. We'll
14:31
hit both conferences. But we'll start in the West,
14:33
Jesse. What what's really jumps out
14:35
to you as a guy who covers the team who's now sitting
14:37
in first place in the conference. Yeah.
14:39
The I mean, it's they're winning too.
14:41
This isn't a case of teams are all bunched
14:44
up because nobody can pull away. Like, the Golden
14:46
Knights have the best record since the all
14:48
star break in the entire NHL. They're like, I
14:50
think thirteen and two or something, and
14:52
they're tied with the kings atop the Pacific.
14:55
Actually, I think they took a two point lead last night,
14:57
but basically every night, those two
14:59
are either two points away or tied. And,
15:01
yeah, it's just it's really jumbled.
15:04
There's twelve games. The Golden Knights play pretty
15:06
much all Pacific Division and Western Conference
15:08
opponents from here out. So these teams
15:10
are gonna be playing each other a lot. So, you know,
15:12
the whole Cliche four
15:14
point game, those really matter
15:17
when the standings are this tight. Like, it's
15:19
going to swing a lot. These games are gonna
15:21
be fun. don't remember the last time there were, like,
15:23
this many meaningful games, not
15:26
just to make the playoffs, but for the standings.
15:28
And that can make a big difference with
15:30
seating match ups and everything. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
15:32
I I guess, to me, the most intriguing team is
15:34
probably Calgary. They had the highest
15:36
expectations coming in. Like, I think they were the
15:38
favorites to win the Pacific vision, Emmer Edmonton.
15:41
And they haven't been good for most
15:43
of the year, but it does look like they're playing a
15:45
little better. Jacob Markstrom's playing
15:48
a little better in that. I think that If
15:51
they do get in, they can be a tough matchup.
15:53
They've got the talent, obviously. If the
15:55
thing if everything clicks, they're physical
15:57
heavy team that kinda thrives in
15:59
in playoff style hockey.
16:01
I don't think I think teams in the
16:03
West would rather not play Calgary would be my
16:05
guess. What do you think Michael? Yeah.
16:08
I I would agree. I think a lot of teams
16:10
are hoping to finish first so they could play
16:12
Winnipeg. No. I mean,
16:14
Winnipeg right now, they're just if they if they
16:16
get in, they just do not look like a formidable
16:18
opponent by by any stretch
16:20
of imagination just has not have not played
16:22
well for some time. Nashville
16:25
is a weird team too. Right? I mean, you know,
16:27
obviously, we had David Pollan a couple weeks
16:29
ago. He made some moves to essentially start
16:31
the retooling of that franchise then
16:34
they go to places like New York at their butts
16:36
kick, but then they rebound and they figure out a
16:38
way, you know, in terms of points percentage, they're
16:40
right on they're they're technically in ninth.
16:43
You know, ahead of Calgary because they have three games
16:45
in hand. I I'm kind of intrigued
16:47
though with what's going on in the central division
16:49
guys. I mean, you know, again, it's just jockeying
16:51
for for a while last night after
16:53
the wild beat the Devils an overtime
16:55
on Boldy's, an overtime winner,
16:58
right at the buzzer, The wild were
17:00
actually in first place for the first time all
17:03
year, and then Jamie Ben says
17:06
Boldy's my beer. And scores with
17:08
seven tenths of a second before the Dallas
17:10
Stars did the normal losing in overtime.
17:12
They have fourteen overtime loss points this
17:14
year. You know, so, you
17:16
know, that is unbelievable. And so you have
17:18
this Dallas Minnesota jacking right now,
17:21
but then you have Colorado sitting there
17:23
right from behind. They've won some of the last
17:25
ten seven of the last ten games. They
17:27
have two games hand on both of them,
17:29
only two points behind. And think a
17:31
lot of us just expect, especially because I think
17:33
Dallas and Colorado have the easier schedules
17:36
that Colorado is gonna wind up winning the division
17:38
in Dallas and Minnesota are gonna be playing each
17:40
other in the first drown. And Dallas has played
17:42
really well against the wild, you know,
17:44
not just this year, but for for many
17:46
years. So it's just gonna be really interesting.
17:48
I think what happens in the central the rest
17:50
of the way here. You mentioned Dallas analyzer
17:52
point sorry. Dallas analyzer
17:54
point, they are they have ninety points there in
17:57
atop the division. If you just take away all
17:59
their loser points, which I think we should.
18:01
They're not even close to the playoffs. They're
18:03
they're way outside the playoffs. Like, they're, like, in
18:05
tenth place and probably have no chance
18:07
of making the
18:08
playoffs. Just thought I'd -- Yeah. -- mention
18:09
this. Not the wild. You know, I
18:11
I will say I will say conversely, you
18:14
know, team like the wild. I think they'd lead the league
18:16
and over time and shoot that one. So, you know, you
18:18
could almost say, alright, you know, if that's flipped,
18:20
it's the same thing. That's just the league that we're
18:22
in. It's how they hate everything close.
18:24
But you're right. I mean, I used to joke all the time
18:27
back when this was a a you know, back
18:29
in the day, you made the playoffs
18:31
and you could have pretty much
18:33
be a five hundred team. Right? Or or and,
18:35
you know, you'd theoretically in the tie system
18:38
could go, oh, oh, in eighty two with that and
18:41
and make the playoffs. And it just seems
18:43
like you know, it just seems like the Dallas
18:45
Stars are putting that to the test right now. remember
18:47
talking to Pete DeBoer at the All Star game. Jesse,
18:50
if you remember that, we were talking about, like, some changes
18:52
that could over time agents, I just wanna win
18:54
one of these games once in a while because at the
18:56
time, they were at also leading the league
18:58
in in overtime and shootout losses.
19:02
And then over the east, for me, the
19:04
most intriguing is just down at the
19:06
bottom, the the the race for the wildcard
19:09
because could we have
19:11
a Stanley Cup playoffs without
19:13
both the penguins and the capitals in
19:16
there? I mean, we haven't seen Enwood's missed
19:18
the playoffs since 0506, the capital since
19:20
two thousand fourteen. I mean, Ottawa
19:23
and Buffalo hats off
19:25
for making it exciting, but that's not
19:27
gonna happen. But, I mean, is it gonna
19:29
be Florida and the Islanders in those wild
19:31
card spots? What's
19:34
more exciting as a hockey fan? What
19:36
what do you guys think as far as those two wildcard sports
19:38
go? Because I just it seems weird to
19:40
me to think no
19:41
Crosby, oral etiquette in the playoffs.
19:44
Russo? Yeah. I don't think they're
19:46
making it. I think Florida's getting in. And I I
19:48
definitely think the Islanders are getting in. I mean, they
19:50
got I got the maybe the
19:52
best goalie in the world right now in Saroken.
19:55
You know, sorry to line this all mark. But,
19:57
I mean, Saroken, the guy is just
19:59
unbelievable too. But
20:02
I just I don't know what's going on with the
20:04
with the penguins. And I I will
20:06
say, as a media member, I am thoroughly
20:08
entertained by right now, the beat writers
20:10
in Pittsburgh just like trying to
20:12
outrage each other. It's
20:14
like every single day is just
20:16
like who could write the nastier story
20:19
about the penguins. And so I think it'd almost
20:21
be funny if they go get into the playoffs and,
20:23
like, here, here's your gift for doing that, playing
20:25
the Boston Bruins in the first around. I
20:28
think Florida makes it really disappointed with
20:30
the Buffalo Savers. You know,
20:33
I just cannot believe the way that they've fallen
20:35
down here. You know, losing
20:37
what eight of the last ten games at least
20:39
and just, you know, getting spanked against
20:41
teams that they shouldn't get
20:43
spanked. It's it's
20:44
-- I think it's a -- other whole bunch. Exactly.
20:47
You know? And that game obviously, it's the ruins.
20:49
It's the ruins, but on second of back to back,
20:51
which travel coming from Minnesota to Buffalo,
20:53
which is not an easy flight. Really,
20:57
really interesting. And the other team that It
20:59
doesn't treat me right now or the Rangers. Doesn't
21:01
it feel like right now they are just finding themselves.
21:04
They're they're suddenly they've put in all these
21:06
pieces like Kaye and
21:07
Tyrosenko, and they just suddenly look
21:09
like a team that is realizing how
21:11
good they could
21:12
be. Yeah. I totally agree
21:14
with all that. In terms of hockey fans.
21:16
What's the most exciting? I think you're
21:18
looking at those top teams, Caroline and
21:20
Boston. Who are they gonna play in the first
21:22
round? And to me, If
21:24
they're playing Pittsburgh and Washington, we've
21:27
seen this story a million times and they aren't
21:29
gonna beat them. Not that the Islanders
21:31
and Panthers are gonna beat them, but I
21:34
think there's a little more intrigue there, and
21:36
and Michael mentioned it, Ilya Saroku.
21:39
If there's someone that can cast doubt
21:41
in the ruins and and can give
21:44
us a series. I already see it in my head
21:46
right now. Ilya Saroku forty
21:48
six save shot out game one. Islanders
21:50
are up, and everyone in Boston goes, oh,
21:52
no. Here we go. If there's
21:54
a guy who can take that Boston team
21:57
down on his own, it's Ilias Sarukin.
21:59
I wanna see it. I wanna see the Islanders
22:01
against Boston. I don't think they're gonna win. I think
22:03
the Blues are way And they've
22:05
got a goalie that's just as good. Behind
22:07
an even stronger team in in Omar.
22:09
But that's the way you take that.
22:11
Like, the only way one of these wildcard teams
22:13
can take down team as good as Boston is with
22:16
a goalie that just loses his mind for
22:18
for four out of seven games. And if there's a guy that
22:20
can do it, it's all Mark. So I think from an from
22:22
an entertainment perspective, I
22:25
would much rather see the island. And, like, same thing
22:27
with, like, Panthers Hurricanes. I think the Panthers
22:29
can skate with the Hurricanes. They haven't played
22:31
well this season. They've we we keep
22:33
expecting this team to be the
22:36
the team of last year in
22:38
terms of the offense they can score and they just
22:40
haven't, but I believe they can
22:42
turn it on more than Pittsburgh or Washington.
22:44
So from from an entertainment
22:47
in the first round perspective, I'd rather see Islanders
22:49
and Panthers in there.
22:50
Rob, don't you think this podcast deserves
22:53
Boston versus the Islanders just to
22:55
see Jesse just geek out for seven games
22:57
with all Mark and Saroken? I
22:59
was about to say, I hope you enjoy
23:02
a triple over time zero zero,
23:04
you
23:05
know, type series. We'll see it like
23:07
I I as someone who's known
23:09
to wager dollar or two on the outcome of a
23:11
hockey game under under under
23:14
blindly. Put whatever number. If it's
23:16
two and a half, I'm like, under you know,
23:18
it's just there's no way that's gonna be I
23:20
score x series, but maybe the
23:22
every time I see that, that it's like, well, the score
23:25
after three periods is seven
23:27
to five Brewids. One
23:29
more story, guys, before we get to break in that
23:31
Boldy's. And it's story
23:33
that just seems to keep coming up on
23:36
not only our show, but anyone who talks
23:38
hockey, it involves pride jerseys,
23:40
edits, reared its ugly
23:42
head again this week. In case you've been
23:44
living under a rock, if you remember earlier this
23:46
season, Ivan Proverov, boycotted
23:49
his team scheduled Pride night in
23:51
January. Days later, the Rangers
23:53
said they're not gonna have a pride themed Jersey
23:56
night as they had originally scheduled. Earlier
23:58
this month, the wild declined to wear
24:00
pride jerseys during warm up. And now
24:03
James Reimer enters the discussion. He
24:05
refused to wear pride jersey during warm
24:07
up saying it was because of his religious
24:09
beliefs. He released
24:12
a statement and the statement ended with the
24:14
following quote, I strongly believe
24:16
that every person has value and worth
24:18
and the LGBTQA plus
24:21
community, like all others, should be welcomed
24:23
in all aspects of the Game of Hockey.
24:27
But I'm not gonna wear their Jersey. When
24:31
you saw this story and everything that came
24:33
out after it, is
24:35
it starting to get little exhausting seeing
24:38
this? Or is is this just almost
24:41
hate to say it, but the tip of the iceberg, is this
24:43
not going to go away? Russo.
24:46
Yeah. I I don't think so. That
24:48
is gonna go away. And I think definitely
24:50
the precedent has been set. You know,
24:53
I am one of those people that think that everybody should,
24:55
you know, that that everybody should
24:57
have their own beliefs and you're able to do
25:00
what you want and freedom and all that stuff.
25:02
But I just think that in this situation, I
25:04
just think, you know, I don't know. I don't
25:06
don't like it. I don't like what it says to,
25:09
you know, look, loop the other day puts out
25:11
this statement and just imagine him walking
25:13
into that locker room now and if he's gonna ever
25:15
feel comfortable, if he ever, you know, played
25:17
for the sharks or with James primer and
25:20
you, you know, it just felt like
25:22
we're going backwards there. And then,
25:24
you know, I I don't like the
25:26
And I and I will preface this by saying
25:28
that I am not the most religious person
25:30
in the world. But I just I
25:33
I do I'm very cynical when people
25:35
blame or not blame. That might be the wrong
25:37
word. But but use religion
25:40
as an excuse because it does feel
25:42
like certain parts of everybody's religion
25:44
is cherry picked here. And
25:46
there's a lot of things as
25:48
a devout Christian that or
25:51
Catholic that James Reimer basically
25:54
is a hippocrit about every single time every
25:56
time he plays a game on on Sunday.
25:58
It's it's it's great. You know? So
26:00
I don't know. I I just I I didn't like
26:03
it. And I do think that this
26:05
is gonna be a topic in
26:07
the NHL offices on how best to handle
26:09
this because I think that the majority
26:11
of teams are trying to do the right thing
26:13
here with these pride
26:15
nights. And then it just takes you know,
26:17
when one guy does this. It just takes away from
26:19
everything else that they're trying to do
26:21
good. And and, you know,
26:24
I I think that I do think the sharks handled
26:26
it right like, I think that it was smart to get
26:28
ahead of it and not do what the wild did
26:30
couple weeks ago and almost, you know, pretend
26:32
like you you know, let's hope that
26:34
people don't realize that we're not wearing the
26:36
jerseys. So at least here, they they handle
26:38
it in from that perspective. I
26:41
agree with Michael Vitt. I do not
26:43
like the message it sends when a player
26:45
doesn't wanna wear a jersey. And then he comes
26:47
out with the statement that basically
26:50
says the opposite of what
26:52
message he's sending by now one to enter the Jersey.
26:55
Rob read the quote, Everyone
26:57
from this community is welcoming the NHL
27:00
except your actions just showed
27:02
the exact
27:03
opposite. Yep.
27:04
And I
27:07
just don't It's talking out of both sides of your mouth.
27:10
I don't like putting out a
27:12
statement that says, I am totally
27:14
welcoming everyone into hockey
27:17
except for if you want me to wear this Jersey
27:19
that shows that. I'm not doing it because that's
27:21
what the Jersey show. The jerseys
27:25
are designed to show everyone's
27:27
welcome in hockey. And if you agree with that,
27:29
You have no problem wearing the jersey because that's
27:31
all it signifies. The jersey isn't signifying
27:34
you're a member of that community or
27:36
anything else that that these players
27:39
are acting like it signifies. All
27:41
these jerseys are meant to signify is that
27:43
this group of people, everyone
27:46
in the
27:46
world, is welcome in hockey. And
27:48
if you
27:49
don't wanna wear the jersey to me, you're saying they're
27:51
not. That's right
27:53
along the lines of what Brian Burke said
27:55
in response to this as well. I'll read you his quote,
27:58
excuse me, quote, I wish players would understand
28:01
that the Pride jerseys or Pride sweaters
28:03
are about inclusion and welcoming everybody.
28:06
A player wearing pride colors or tape
28:08
isn't endorsing a set of values
28:10
or listing in a cause. He's saying
28:12
you are welcome here and you are
28:15
in every single NHL building. End quote,
28:17
and said this during the Probravir situation
28:19
as well. That's all this is.
28:22
And I think people are missing the point a lot
28:24
of the same way they missed the call it cap predict
28:26
point and every everything else that you see all the
28:28
time. If
28:30
James Reimer is doing this and there is someone
28:32
on his team who is part
28:34
of that community and maybe hasn't let anyone
28:36
know about it, you're Say saying to this
28:38
player, I don't have your back. I'm
28:41
not gonna have your back. I can't even do the
28:43
bare minimum, which Nobody's
28:45
asking you to to be an advocate
28:47
publicly or, you know, marching praise or anything.
28:50
They're asking you to wear a jersey just to say,
28:52
hey, guys. As the NHL's been pumping
28:54
in our face for years now, if you can play,
28:56
you can play. You're welcome in this dressing
28:58
room. And and certain
29:00
players are flat out saying, no,
29:03
absolutely not. And I
29:05
I agree with everything that both of you just said,
29:07
the message it sends out for
29:10
the league as a member of that team,
29:13
just as a whole, is just it's
29:16
it's ugly. It's just not It's
29:18
not what Hock usually is
29:19
about, which is, you know, you fight for the
29:21
the the crest on the
29:23
front of your jersey, and the guy sitting next
29:25
to you in the dressing room just doesn't feel that to
29:28
And I I've said this before, and I
29:30
know it and it it's gotten me in hot
29:32
water on Twitter with some people that are offended
29:34
by what I'm saying, but the people that are getting
29:36
up in arms in support of
29:38
these actions, it
29:41
is so hypocritical of the reaction.
29:43
I mean, they're acting like freedom, freedom, you have
29:45
your own personal beliefs and all that stuff.
29:47
If all of a sudden a player tomorrow to say, you
29:49
know what, I'm not gonna take it, take part in US
29:51
military appreciation, I those same
29:54
people would be flipping the heck out.
29:56
Okay? So it is about the
29:58
Jersey specifically that these people
30:00
are getting up in arms about.
30:02
Absolutely. It's going to Raymore. And,
30:05
unfortunately, I think Russo might be right. This is
30:07
I don't know if this is gonna go away because
30:09
I really thought after the pro Rob situation, people
30:13
or teams or players would be little afraid
30:15
to step out on that ledge like
30:17
that, and it just doesn't seem that way.
30:19
So and we've seen multiple
30:21
cases now. And I will be
30:23
I I'll be interested to see how the league handles
30:25
this. Alright? Because, I mean, you know, it's just because
30:28
it takes these instances if
30:30
it's gonna get just continue to grow and grow and
30:32
grow. It really does take away of what the event's
30:34
all about. So do you do you just go
30:36
back to, like, you know, alright, we're gonna
30:38
have, you know, hockey fights
30:41
cancer night, and we'll have the military
30:43
appreciation, and that's it. And
30:45
no more special jerseys, but we still do
30:47
these nights. Do we just have one all
30:49
encompassing night that celebrates
30:53
everything like, at some the
30:55
league is gonna have to actually have to have
30:57
a conversation about this because
30:59
next season, this is not just gonna
31:01
stop. It's probably gonna become
31:03
more of a thing. And, you
31:06
know, again, I actually feel bad like,
31:08
you know, in Philadelphia, there's a great example
31:10
is that those players tried, you know,
31:12
James Van Rheemsdijk, and who is it, Scott Lawton?
31:14
They tried to do this incredible thing
31:17
and yet all the story was about
31:19
was Proveroth. Proveroth, Proveroth, and
31:21
that become it's even with the wild the
31:23
other night, you know, it's like the
31:25
Jersey became the talking point,
31:28
but not all the initiatives that were going on
31:30
actually at the arena that night or what John Merrill
31:32
did in bringing out people and giving
31:34
them a suite and things like that. That's not
31:36
that was not what was talked about. And so
31:38
if this is gonna continue to be this distraction,
31:41
You don't wanna give the players that out by saying, alright,
31:43
we're gonna not gonna have jerseys on any team,
31:45
but the league is gonna have to have an honest discussion
31:47
this this year on what's gonna go into future
31:49
seasons. So this doesn't
31:51
become the distraction where it just takes away
31:54
from what they're trying to achieve.
31:57
Well said, Mike, we'll leave it there. Coming up
31:59
after the break. Matt Boldy's the Minnesota Wild,
32:02
we gave him a night of rest because he's had pretty
32:04
busy couple of games and he's gonna come on to talk to
32:06
us about hat
32:06
tricks, buzzer beaters and everything else,
32:09
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Alright, guys. I know in March, it's not
35:54
a shocker to see buzzer beaters, but usually
35:56
we're talking college basketball and we're talking about buzzer
35:58
beaters. But last night, Matt pulled
36:01
off one for the wild in
36:03
overtime. And that was fresh off a hat trick
36:05
too. So he has two crazy good
36:07
games And then he comes on and talks
36:09
to us. Matt the Minnesota Wild
36:11
joining us on the athletic podcast. Thanks
36:13
so much for doing this. Yeah.
36:15
Of course. No worries. Gotta
36:18
start with the OT goal. How
36:21
much gas did you have left
36:23
in the tank? Because you know,
36:26
you you get the Boldy's and
36:28
it felt like one of those video games
36:30
or the the turbos almost out and I'm
36:32
just sitting there just to make
36:33
it. If he gets a shot, this thing could go in. How
36:35
much gas was in the tank for that OT
36:38
goal? Yeah.
36:40
There wasn't much, to be honest. It
36:42
was it was kinda just
36:45
just put your head down and go as much as you could,
36:47
but I mean, I wasn't too
36:49
sure about how much time was left
36:51
either. So and honestly, helped me out.
36:53
It didn't stress me out too much. Matt,
36:55
as a first of all, it's a huge paths
36:58
fan. I gotta think that you like that you celebrated
37:00
right in front of Eli Manning yesterday. I don't
37:02
know if you saw that that picture of you celebrating
37:04
a right behind you as a very bombed Eli
37:06
Manning. But I wanted
37:09
to know so after the game last night, Mason
37:11
Show was saying that him and Dror
37:13
and do him or on the bench giving you grief
37:15
as you were going back on the back check,
37:17
chasing Jack Hughes, saying to get the
37:19
piano off your back, did you actually hear that
37:21
from the from the
37:22
Bednar? Or or do you not hear stuff like
37:24
that? Not from
37:26
the bench, but I hear it about every other game
37:29
from from those three. Yeah.
37:31
They're some of my best friends. So I
37:33
definitely we're definitely not
37:36
afraid to choke each
37:36
other, and that's that's one that I get quite a bit
37:39
for most three. And what was funny is
37:41
yesterday morning in the when I was talking
37:43
to you about coming on the podcast at the morning's
37:45
gate, Shaw was make said to you
37:47
to make sure to give them credit for all the work
37:49
that they do for you guys. Yeah.
37:52
Exactly. All those guys are great.
37:54
Like I said, they're showing my best friends. So
37:56
they make they make this
37:58
whole experience and and playing
38:00
in in the NHL even more fun. I'm just
38:02
just having some of your best friends right
38:04
there. We've
38:05
mentioned your two game stretch. What's better?
38:07
Hat trick or buzzer, Peter, and overtime.
38:12
I'll take either one. I I'm not gonna
38:15
not gonna be too picky about it, but
38:17
I'll take the hat trick before the the buzzer
38:20
reader. That's
38:22
Matt, I've gotten to know your family really
38:24
well. You know, I've met your your,
38:26
you know, your stepmom, your mom, your dad, your
38:29
brothers, your stepbrothers, everything.
38:31
Your dad is somebody that I've gotten
38:34
really immense amount of respect for.
38:36
I mean, he's he's a police officer that's assigned
38:38
to the DA We were in
38:40
Boston this year. And the
38:42
next day, he had some big bust planned,
38:45
and he said that's like his game day. You
38:47
know, what what was it like growing up in that
38:49
type of environment? And how much do you just respect,
38:52
you
38:52
know, how big of an influence was that on
38:54
you growing up? Yeah.
38:57
I think played a big role. Just
39:01
I mean, obviously, my my parents raised
39:03
me and all my siblings with with
39:05
certain values and stuff like that. And I think
39:09
we definitely were they weren't
39:11
too strict, but they definitely kept
39:14
kept us tight and and how is
39:16
to to being good people. And I think just
39:19
stuff like that, I think we played a big role
39:22
respect. Learning learning
39:24
ways to to be a good person and stuff
39:26
like that, but definitely just
39:29
the right way to live life and and definitely
39:31
to stay away from drugs in terms of my dad
39:34
and what he does. So it's
39:37
he kinda learned the crazy
39:39
part of life that some people go through stuff
39:41
like
39:42
that, and it's it's an interesting
39:44
way. But, yeah, it definitely played
39:46
a big role. Speaking
39:48
of being a good person, I was reading Russo's piece
39:51
and, you know, it was brought up that your twentieth
39:53
goal cashed in a nice little bonus
39:55
for you. And Ryan Reeves says, well, I
39:57
guess we got a team dinner coming soon. Did
40:00
the check magically appear at your hands
40:02
when a team dinner
40:05
happened after, you know, cashing in that
40:07
nice little hundred twelve thousand dollar bonus?
40:11
Not yet, but I'm sure they're they're gonna try.
40:15
Yeah. It's it's all fun. No.
40:17
I mean, those guys are are the reason
40:19
that that bonuses like that happen.
40:21
I mean, not out there doing it by
40:23
myself, guys. There guys are helping me in
40:26
making plays and making it really easy for me.
40:28
So the more you get back to your
40:29
teammates, the the better craft you are.
40:32
Matt, I I was talking to Jack Hughes yesterday morning
40:34
about you, and obviously, he had a a ton
40:36
of incredible stuff to say about you
40:38
about your time. You know, in Ann Arbor,
40:40
playing internationally, putting on the USA,
40:42
Jersey, and and things like that.
40:45
And and you look at those rosters of those teams.
40:47
I mean, you know, the 40 and the
40:49
Zebra and obviously Hughes
40:51
and and and all that. What was that whole experience
40:53
like kind of growing up in that program
40:55
with such incredible players? And how much
40:57
does that how much did it drive
40:59
you then to keep up with them? But how much does
41:01
it also even at this point to see all
41:03
of you guys succeeding in AHL? Is there that
41:06
competition?
41:08
Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I
41:11
think we had eight first round numbers.
41:13
So it's It
41:16
was just exciting. I mean, going to the rink every
41:18
day. I think that program was the best thing that ever
41:20
happened for me. Just
41:23
just the person I am and how competitive I am being
41:25
able to go there and be with those guys and
41:27
and see it firsthand and and compete
41:29
with them every day was the sun that played
41:32
a big role and just me and how I approached
41:34
Rocky and and kinda figured everything
41:36
out. You
41:37
think being around all those guys kinda pushed
41:39
you all? Yeah.
41:41
For sure. I think you go to practice every
41:43
day. We were practicing for for an hour, hour
41:45
and a half every day and staying
41:47
on the ice with those guys, just talking to each
41:49
other. I mean, not only are you playing
41:51
hockey with these guys, you're with them twenty four seven,
41:54
so they're some of your best friends. So, I
41:56
mean, you learn a lot from each other. You learn different
41:58
ways to play. I mean, you look at all
42:00
those guys who just mentioned and
42:02
everyone plays a different way, but I think we're
42:04
able to kind of help each other out and and
42:06
talk to each other about certain things that we're
42:08
all able to kind of pick up your stuff
42:10
and and stuff like that.
42:13
Along those lines with CapriSoft,
42:15
I gotta ask you, obviously, I'm with an injury now,
42:18
but he just strikes me as someone who would
42:20
blow your mind almost more in
42:22
practice. Watching
42:24
him just try new things because the
42:26
things he does in a game make fans jump
42:28
out of their
42:29
seats, but what's he like just watching and
42:31
practice? Even just warming up and practice,
42:33
he do things that that blow your mind
42:35
every day? He
42:38
definitely has the ability to I
42:41
mean, you give him a lot of credit. I mean, for
42:44
for as big of a superstar he is and how good
42:46
he is. He he plays the hard way. He
42:48
doesn't do it easy. doesn't play only
42:50
skill. He he plays so hard and and
42:53
competes and and wins battles
42:55
and uses his body and stuff like that, which you
42:57
don't see too much. But think
42:59
just just that aspect of it. I think compresses
43:02
all of us so much just because he
43:04
has all the skill in the world and and that's that's
43:06
honestly his last resort when it comes to
43:08
to making plays on the ICU. He he
43:10
wants to play a hard way. He wants to port checking.
43:13
And hit guys and and kinda get into
43:15
the spaces to score goals. But like
43:17
I said, it's it's not it's not
43:19
the soft and perimeter in QA. It's it's
43:22
it's hard
43:23
way, and he does a pretty good job
43:25
of it, honestly. Matt,
43:27
you guys are four one and one without without
43:29
Carell. And I I think that you know you know
43:31
as well as anybody, I think a lot of
43:33
times when an injury happens to somebody that
43:36
impactful on a team, I think there's doom and gloom
43:38
anytime, but especially in Minnesota where
43:40
where, you know, fans and media sometimes can
43:42
cut can can really, you know, just
43:44
almost have this fatalist attitude. What
43:47
what it happened you know, is it
43:49
like, what happened inside that room that allowed
43:51
you guys to all of a sudden come together and
43:53
continue playing as well as that you were
43:56
before he went out because you were on fire before,
43:59
you you've been on fire since and
44:01
especially you in particular stepping up
44:03
with six goals and ten points in the six games
44:06
that he's been out.
44:08
Yeah. Not much changed, to be honest. I think
44:12
I mean, it's it's no secret that he's our
44:14
best player. And when
44:16
when guys like that go down, it's it sucks
44:19
and it's a little bit deflating and you don't
44:21
really know what to expect. And, yeah,
44:23
it could have gone the other way. We we could have
44:25
lost all these games and we felt sorry for
44:27
ourselves and stuff like that. But But
44:29
we didn't. I think, Kim, that that
44:31
speaks a lot to just kind of the group we have.
44:33
But, yeah, it's you're
44:35
not gonna change it. You're not gonna go back in
44:37
time and and change the play where he
44:40
gets hurt. So the quicker that you're able to kinda
44:42
process that and and realize
44:44
that he's out and we need to keep winning games.
44:46
To to get into playoffs and and get
44:48
a good seed and stuff like that, the the better
44:50
off we're gonna be. So I think I
44:52
think we processed it quick in in
44:54
a good way in terms of we weren't
44:57
gonna feel sorry for ourselves or or, like,
44:59
we weren't gonna be a good team because he wasn't
45:01
playing. But, obviously, we we
45:03
walked him back back in our
45:04
lineup. He's he's unbelievable. And
45:06
mean, you guys see it every night just like us?
45:10
Matt, also similarly, you know,
45:12
you guys really stumbled out of the
45:14
all star break and and you had bad loss
45:16
against the Vegas Golden Knights at home. And
45:18
we wrote a story the other day where Marcus Fleyenow
45:20
and couple of guys were really honest in the
45:22
fact that you had a real frank team meeting
45:24
after that game. Billy said some stuff. Dean
45:26
said some stuff. The leaders on the team
45:28
said some stuff. And yet, now you're thirteen
45:30
and one and three since then. How
45:34
without sharing the inside details of what
45:36
happens in a meeting like that as a youngster, you
45:38
know, you as as a hockey fan
45:40
growing up, you always hear about these closed doors
45:43
team meetings and and things like that.
45:45
What is it like for a young guy to be part of that?
45:47
And what what was the overall message
45:49
in that meeting that really helped you guys
45:51
get to the point where you have been on
45:54
such a terror? Yeah.
45:57
I think I
46:00
think just just honestly relaxed.
46:02
I think we at that point,
46:04
we things weren't going our
46:06
way. We lost a couple in a row and We
46:08
were playing we were
46:10
playing our style, we were playing
46:12
how we play smart, defensive,
46:15
and and going from there, we're kinda
46:17
all over the place. So I think the more that
46:19
we're able to kinda settle
46:21
down and relax and and play our own
46:23
game and and play how we know
46:25
how to play rather than trying to to keep up
46:27
with these teams that that run and gun and
46:29
they wanna score six or seven goals a
46:31
night. It's kinda
46:34
just stuff like that. And I think, obviously,
46:37
it hit pretty well with our group, and I think that's
46:39
that's a good thing. I
46:41
wouldn't say that we have a crazy amount of meetings
46:44
or anything like that or or
46:46
guys yelling at each other
46:48
left and right, but it's guys are
46:50
when people speak out, people listen, and,
46:53
obviously, that goes a long way when when
46:56
you only hear it a couple times rather than
46:58
on it being harp down over and over and over
47:00
again. It's it's obviously a pretty nice
47:02
thing as a player.
47:05
On a lighter note, I'd like to ask you. So I
47:07
I covered Marc Andre Flori quite
47:09
a bit here in Vegas. And I always love
47:11
asking guys how he's
47:13
pranked them. And I know he loves picking on the
47:15
young players I'm wondering if he's got you, if you've
47:18
got a good flower prank story for
47:20
us.
47:22
I I haven't gotten pranks by flower,
47:24
but See, I've heard
47:26
differently, actually. Wow.
47:30
Well, I heard that you Maybe you don't know it was
47:32
him, but I I heard that he got you in Montreal
47:35
last season. With,
47:37
like,
47:37
shaving cream towel.
47:39
He got me shaving cream towel. Yeah.
47:41
He didn't get me with that, actually. But
47:43
That wasn't that wasn't too bad. He got,
47:45
like, five guys that day with the shaving
47:48
cream towel. He
47:51
did get me there. I forgot about that, but
47:53
what exactly happened? So
47:56
all the towels are, like, folded up in our
47:58
shower and basically,
48:01
he opened a few of them up and then
48:03
shaving cream all in them in the light towel
48:05
so you can't really see it. You just
48:07
grab it and start drying yourself off,
48:09
but it's got shaving creaminess, so you get shaving
48:12
cream all over yourself. But I
48:14
think the best one I
48:17
I've seen them. I don't know for sure if this
48:19
was him, but I would assume
48:21
it was right after the trade deadline last year
48:23
where he came to our team. He be at
48:25
two Haines car with the packing peanuts.
48:27
Just filled it all the way to the top.
48:30
It's been one of our games, and I thought that was
48:32
a pretty good one. Yeah. That's
48:34
the one thing. Jonathan Marshall will say the
48:37
the the thing that makes it tough with flowers is that
48:39
he will deny it till he dies. Like,
48:41
no. Like, poker pays everything. Like
48:44
but the one the flower told me the shaving
48:46
cream one in Montréal, and I don't know if it was you or
48:48
Golagosky that got it first, but but
48:50
it either was you met or
48:52
or got goose that put the shaving cream on
48:54
it and the other one was laughing hysterically and
48:56
then they grabbed the towel and did the exact same
48:58
thing.
48:58
So Yeah. I I was
49:00
the one last thing and then did the same thing.
49:03
So
49:05
yeah. It it plunges in pretty good.
49:07
You don't know it, I guess. Yeah. Does
49:09
no one ever get flower back? That's
49:11
what I always wonder. I see all the pranks
49:13
for, you know, Marc Andre FLaire did
49:15
this. Marc Andre FLaire did that. Get them back.
49:17
Yeah. There was who's it on Ottawa?
49:19
Is it Nick Nick Nick Matt,
49:22
this year, like, flower during the morning's
49:24
gate, went into their changing room, and painted
49:27
his dress shoes like green and
49:28
red. So so
49:32
yeah. That's the thing to get flower back and
49:35
then he finds out a chew. He comes back
49:37
a chew again, twice as
49:38
hard. So that's that's the tough part.
49:40
So there's fear of of him you don't wanna
49:43
put the target on your back? For
49:45
me, a hundred percent.
49:49
Just keep doing what you're doing, and maybe he'll
49:51
he'll leave you alone. He's like, I can't I can't mess with
49:53
this guy. He's he's buzzer beat
49:55
doesn't. That isn't a hat trick because can't mess
49:57
with Yeah.
49:58
He's he's definitely not gonna cut into
49:59
your sticks or anything like that. Hey,
50:02
Matt. Just lastly, you know, obviously, last
50:04
a couple months ago, you signed the big seven year
50:07
forty nine million dollar extension. And I think
50:09
a lot of us thought that you were gonna go bridge
50:11
deal and the team would go bridge deal and
50:13
and but what what made you wanna
50:15
commit long term to the wild? And just how
50:17
excited are you about the future, not
50:19
just long term, but really the prospect
50:22
of this season where you guys just look right
50:23
now, you're playing your best hockey, the best time of
50:26
year. Yeah.
50:28
For me, was there wasn't really a
50:30
question when when it was offered that.
50:33
The long term deal is is pretty automatic
50:35
for me, I think. I absolutely
50:38
love in Minnesota to be honest with
50:40
him. I think just the
50:42
the management, the staff, everything that we have
50:44
gone. It's it's the best case
50:46
scenario, honestly, and and absolutely love
50:48
it. And they've been so good to me, along with
50:50
just my teammates in
50:52
in the locker room that we have. And kinda
50:55
what what created here with
50:57
with everyone else and kinda the
50:59
character that everyone's organization kinda
51:01
has. It's it was pretty easy
51:03
to to wanna be here for a long period of
51:05
time. And like I said, when when that was
51:08
on the
51:08
table, that was that was definitely what I want to
51:10
do. And, of course, you love the beat
51:12
writers. So
51:14
Yeah. Exactly. That
51:17
was the only thing he was wavering on. like,
51:19
I signed this deal. I gotta I gotta see Russo
51:22
every day or he's a kid. Seven
51:25
more years, Russo. Yeah.
51:28
Well, we we we Jesse that I can sympathize.
51:31
Bad. Thanks so much. Really
51:33
appreciate you coming on. Keep up the the
51:36
crazy run you're on and We'll get you out
51:38
next time too. So next time we book you
51:40
as a guest, you'll you'll have to do
51:42
the exact same thing so you come in red
51:43
hot. Thanks so much for doing this.
51:46
Alright. Perfect. Thanks, guys.
51:48
Thanks. Have a safe train ride. Yeah.
51:50
Have a good one. A
51:53
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51:55
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Alright, boys. My favorite time of the show is
53:51
yours, rapid fire, and we've got five
53:53
topics. Russo, I'm looking at you.
53:56
While we're doing it, just look up the word rapid. You'll
53:58
know what you're supposed to do. Topic number
54:00
one, in a shocking turn of events Jordan
54:02
Bennington, got mad on the ice.
54:05
He was bumped by Ryan Hartman after a goal,
54:07
went after him, gave him a blocker to
54:09
the face. Mark Andre fleri comes to the
54:11
other end of the ice, wants to fight Alignments
54:14
say no, Bennington gets a two
54:16
game suspension and fans went home
54:18
saying we almost saw a goalie
54:20
fight. Jesse, you know, I'm starting with you on this.
54:23
How do you not let flirty fight him?
54:25
Come on. Jordan Bennington needs to
54:27
get in a fight and I wanna say he needs to get
54:29
his ass kicked, but maybe he'll win the fight, but
54:31
Jordan Biddington needs to get in the fight because he's been
54:33
asking for one for too long
54:36
blockering someone in the face while
54:38
they're celebrating a goal. I don't
54:40
know how that fight doesn't happen. They should've let flurry
54:42
do it. If there's a guy in the league that needs to do
54:44
it, it's flurry. Should've let it happen. I'm
54:46
so disappointed. I'm actually
54:48
glad that didn't. First of all, Bennington was
54:50
so unstable. I think he would've absolutely lead
54:52
to destroyed flower. I love flower,
54:54
but I don't see him as a fighter. And,
54:58
you know, like and and look,
55:00
he's Flower has said he's got into one
55:02
fight in his life and he broke his knuckle. And
55:04
the wild had bigger aspirations right now than the
55:06
Saint Louis Blues. I just think it would be a big mistake.
55:09
The one thing I'll say is Jordan Pennington's gotta
55:11
freak. They gotta get him some some
55:14
don't know what they've gotta do.
55:15
Ain't your management with
55:16
him? Yeah. I mean, don't wanna say therapy,
55:18
but they gotta figure this out because
55:21
he is so easy to play against
55:23
right now because he is so unraveled at
55:25
times. And the second after the after
55:27
he gave up a couple pulls back to back and he skated
55:30
a wild bed, she started screaming at them and all
55:32
that stuff, Brian Hartman said they knew
55:34
that they had him. And don't I
55:36
I cover Ryan Hartman on a daily basis.
55:38
He knew exactly what he was doing. That was
55:40
not an accident. He clipped him intentionally. And
55:43
he knew what the reaction was gonna be at
55:45
this guy. And that is that
55:47
is not on Ryan Harton. That's on Jordan Bington.
55:49
I'm making it extremely easy for opponents
55:51
because they see when he unravels.
55:54
By the way, if you haven't seen the mic'd up version
55:57
with Marco Dreyflier, begging the linesman to
55:59
let them go, be sure to go
56:01
watch. Judy, God. You just love you. Sorry.
56:03
Rapid fire topic number two. You know what? Jesse, you're
56:05
gonna get to start two topics in a row because it's another
56:07
goalie situation. Jack Campbell.
56:10
It's fair to say hasn't worked out in Edmonton
56:13
thus far year one of
56:15
his five year contract and
56:17
there is legit talk of a
56:19
possible buyout in the
56:21
off season. It might be tough move to
56:23
actually make a move as far as if they wanna try
56:25
to trade him because he's got a ten t
56:27
no trade clause. But wow.
56:30
I I don't know. There were even the people who
56:32
were the biggest critics of this
56:34
Siding, I don't think they would have thought after one year
56:36
we'd be talking buyout. Yeah.
56:38
It has not worked out just like every
56:40
goalie move the Oilers have made since
56:42
what Grant Fuhrer Bill
56:45
Rand Bill Randford maybe. Bill Randford?
56:47
It has been a very, very long
56:50
time since a goalie move has worked out for that team.
56:52
So I am shocked. That this one hasn't worked out.
56:54
They are so lucky that Stewart Skinner has
56:56
come out of nowhere, and I don't know if he's the goalie
56:58
to lead you on a deep playoff run, but he's certainly
57:01
done better than Jack Campbell. And he's he's
57:03
allowed that team to be in the playoff race.
57:05
So they are very fortunate for
57:07
Stuart Skinner coming out of nowhere.
57:09
I'll tell you, and it should be a cautionary tale to
57:12
the Minnesota wild guys because they have Philip Gustafson,
57:14
seeing agent as Jack Campbell,
57:17
Kurt Ovechkin, you know that right now the
57:19
way that Gustafsson is playing who has just been,
57:21
I mean, unbelievable this season.
57:23
Unbelievable right there with the top
57:26
goal is in the league. You know as
57:28
a restricted free agent, Curt Overheart, is gonna
57:30
be looking for the moon and so the wild better be
57:32
careful here because, you know, also you don't wanna go
57:34
too long. You know, somebody
57:36
that Jesse, I'm sure, is looking forward to watching
57:38
his pro as Jesper Wolf stat in the
57:40
NHL. He is their first ground pick
57:42
and the minors having a really good year
57:44
Looks like he's a couple years away, so you
57:46
can't go too long. But Gustafsson again
57:49
proved last night forty seven saves
57:51
unbelievable. SEASON AND
57:53
QUINCIDATELY SAME AGENT IS JACK HAMMER.
57:55
Reporter: Topic number three, Quinn
57:58
Hughes BECOMES THE FIRST DEFENCEMAN TO
58:00
RECORD CONSECUTIVE sixty assists
58:02
seasons since Paul 40
58:04
and Ray Borick did it back in nineteen
58:06
ninety three, nineteen ninety four,
58:09
also became the second gator in conduct
58:11
history to hit that sixty assists mark
58:14
in multiple seasons joining
58:16
Henrik Sadin. I mean, we've
58:18
We've shit on the conducts a lot this year.
58:20
This has been a bright spot for
58:22
them. He's just been incredible. Russo. Yeah.
58:25
And was looking at their stats yesterday and you
58:27
just look at guys like Elias Patterson and J.
58:29
T. Miller. We obviously know what you all invented
58:31
when used. Their offensive numbers
58:33
in Vancouver are in credible. They can't
58:35
defend and they can't stop the puck. So
58:38
that's I think we've diagnosed what
58:40
the issue is with adults. Quinn Hughes is
58:42
unbelievably good offensive defenseman.
58:45
He's only could continue to get better.
58:47
I think a lot is put on his plate
58:49
defensively on that team, and I think it's
58:51
incumbent on the executives there
58:53
in Vancouver to to fix the way they are
58:56
defensively to take some pressure off point in future
58:58
years. Yeah. I agree. I think
59:00
he can be a lot better defensively, but think
59:02
a lot of it, like when you're being asked to be
59:04
the driver of the offense and you're that
59:06
young and you're expected to be the defensive
59:09
anchor. It's gonna be tough. He I
59:11
got to watch him last night against the Golden Knights,
59:13
man. He's just so smooth back there. He just
59:16
It looks like he's floating on the ice, and
59:18
he be because he skates so well, it
59:20
allows him to he's not even worried about
59:22
getting caught by the
59:22
forecracker, and it allows him to see
59:24
those those stretch passes up the ice. They obviously
59:27
have some talented forwards that he can get the
59:29
puck to and that leads to a nervousness.
59:33
Two more guys. The league is changing Jersey
59:35
makers again. Fanatics
59:38
are gonna take over from Adidas
59:40
in the twenty twenty four season. Adidas
59:42
has been making them since twenty seventeen. Third
59:45
company to make NHL jerseys
59:47
since two thousand and five, and it's the first
59:49
time they are actually going to be doing it
59:51
for one of the major four leagues
59:55
in North America. I know Sean Gentile wrote a
59:57
piece about this on the athletic. Fans
59:59
are not happy about this
1:00:00
one. Jesse? Yeah, I mean,
1:00:03
I am not surprised. If you're as a
1:00:05
league, you've got a Jersey maker
1:00:07
that makes the good jerseys, Adidas.
1:00:09
They make the jerseys that are the ones the players wear.
1:00:11
And then you've got a company that makes the shitty jerseys.
1:00:14
That are a third the price, but
1:00:16
look a third the price. And again, this is
1:00:18
not against fanatics. They are being told
1:00:21
you are going to make the knock off jersey,
1:00:23
not the knock off, but the the non
1:00:25
gay born the the not the jerseys the players
1:00:27
wear, you're gonna make the cheap ones. So
1:00:30
for years, they've been making the cheap ones, and then you
1:00:32
tell fans, oh, that those cheap
1:00:34
ones you can wear, that company's making the good ones
1:00:36
now. Of course, they're gonna be upset.
1:00:38
We don't know if fanatics can make a high
1:00:41
quality Jersey. I'm sure they probably can,
1:00:43
but I totally understand the reaction from
1:00:46
fans when you tell them, all those bad jerseys
1:00:48
that cost third the price, they're gonna make the
1:00:50
good ones now. Totally normal
1:00:52
reaction exactly what you'd expect.
1:00:55
Yeah. I didn't know anything about this, by the way.
1:00:57
Obviously, as you could tell, I'm not somebody that goes
1:00:59
out by Jersey's on regular basis.
1:01:01
So I didn't know all the uproar that would
1:01:03
take place. The only thing I'll say is that, one,
1:01:05
we gotta assume that the quality is gonna improve.
1:01:07
Right. The other thing that the fans seem to be
1:01:11
up in arms about that I've seen all over Twitter
1:01:13
is that guess there's a tendency that you buy
1:01:15
fanatics jersey and it comes to you and the name
1:01:17
of the jersey is completely misspelled. Are
1:01:19
the numbers wrong or you got wrong number
1:01:21
here, but the right number on the back. That will
1:01:24
not happen. There will not be, you
1:01:26
know, like, jobs in Marsha's Road next year
1:01:28
is not gonna suddenly be skating with his name
1:01:30
spelled wrong and number eighteen on his back and
1:01:32
not you know what I mean? Like, it's first
1:01:34
of all, the the equipment trainers take
1:01:36
care of that type of stuff. You don't have
1:01:38
to worry about
1:01:39
that. Names will be spelled right and numbers will
1:01:41
be correct next season and beyond. And
1:01:44
501, Jesse, this one's just for you
1:01:46
because the Monday boys do the
1:01:48
Jack Adams award winner of
1:01:50
the week, the coach that, you know, deserves
1:01:53
the award, not for the entire season, or the
1:01:55
front runner of Power Rangers for that week.
1:01:57
And of course, you're a goalie guy. So they
1:01:59
wanna know your Vesta 40 winner
1:02:02
of the week. Take it away, mister goalie expert.
1:02:05
We always want stock bulk goalies. Everyday
1:02:08
I think Sarukin won it with one save
1:02:10
last night. Did he not? I mean, that Haddl
1:02:12
save leaves was
1:02:14
insane. Yeah. If
1:02:16
you wanna go for the whole week though, to be fair
1:02:19
to the rest of the league, Egorosher Starken, I
1:02:21
mean, Michael mentioned earlier that the Rangers
1:02:23
look like they're coming into their own, and it's everyone's
1:02:25
like, okay. These Tarasankos been
1:02:27
fitting in well, Kain, not quite as well, but
1:02:29
it's starting to look better. This is starting to
1:02:32
look like the team they thought could make a deep
1:02:34
run. And I think the biggest part of that is
1:02:36
Shostirkin has been solid all year,
1:02:38
but he is now starting to round into
1:02:40
that form than he was last year going
1:02:42
into the playoffs. The eastern conference,
1:02:45
it they are going to be a major problem
1:02:47
if egorchester can can
1:02:49
play this well in the playoffs. So I'm I'm gonna
1:02:51
even though Sorokin had the save of the week. I'm gonna
1:02:54
go Egorosher Starken for Vazna of the week.
1:02:56
He has been spectacular.
1:02:59
There you go. You had a lot of goalie talk today,
1:03:01
Jess. You gotta be happy.
1:03:02
Pumped. And
1:03:03
I'm disappointed. You know what I mean? Mark Andre,
1:03:05
flurry, Jesse's guy has won seven
1:03:07
straight games. What's he have
1:03:08
to do to get in the Bednar conversation with
1:03:10
you, Jesse? There's so many good goalies right now.
1:03:15
Jesse's the tough critic. Guys, thirty seconds
1:03:17
or less. What are we working on this week? Russo.
1:03:22
Working on a feature on Brock
1:03:25
Faber, who the Wilder gonna sign, the second
1:03:27
the Go for Season ends, hopefully, with a national
1:03:29
championship, working on that. And,
1:03:32
man, I I don't know if I should give this out,
1:03:34
but Sean Chantile and I are working
1:03:36
on a really, you know, comprehensive
1:03:39
story on the prospects of the
1:03:41
NHL returning to
1:03:42
Atlanta. And I guarantee it'll be a talk.
1:03:45
Alright. Nice. I see. I've
1:03:47
got Golden Knights coverage just
1:03:49
as usual. They've got some big games coming
1:03:51
up. They're going to Edmonton, and then they play the Oilers
1:03:53
back here. In Vegas. So two
1:03:56
two games, eight points on the line for two teams
1:03:58
that are right next to each other in the standings. And
1:04:00
a cool little piece on Teddy Blueger who they traded
1:04:02
for at the deadline who's not really
1:04:04
the biggest acquisition, but the
1:04:07
amount of time this guy starts
1:04:09
in his defensive zone is absolutely
1:04:11
aggiring. Like, I I'm looking at the numbers that you
1:04:13
you see what percentage of starts a guy gets
1:04:16
in each zone. This guy's not
1:04:18
allowed to play in the offensive zone.
1:04:20
And he really, like, has embraced that
1:04:22
role. So fun little story on Teddy Bluegreen
1:04:24
and how often he starts in his own
1:04:26
man.
1:04:27
Alright. We'll be sure to look for
1:04:29
those pieces. And before we
1:04:31
go, you can go read those pieces. I want to let
1:04:33
you know. Remember, you could subscribe to the athletic
1:04:35
NHL YouTube channel now, you could see our ugly
1:04:37
mugs when we interview people like Matt
1:04:40
Boldy's. If you go to youtube dot
1:04:42
com slash the athletic hockey
1:04:44
show and while you're there, other things can look at.
1:04:46
Mark Lasers, his take on the whole James
1:04:48
River follow with Ian and
1:04:50
Julian, you can hear Katie Stragg talk about the
1:04:52
allegations of hazing and abuse with Harvard's
1:04:55
women's hockey team with Craig and Sean.
1:04:57
Plenty of great hockey content, so be sure to
1:05:00
check that out. You have thought hockey Show returns
1:05:02
Thursday with Ian Mendez and
1:05:04
down goes brown. I wanna thank
1:05:06
Matt Boldy's for coming on the show as
1:05:08
well for Russo. Jesse, I'm Rob We're
1:05:10
off next week, so we'll see you in two weeks
1:05:12
April the fourth.
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