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going on everybody. Welcome to another fantastic

2:58

edition of the athletic hockey show,

3:01

The When day round table

3:02

edition. I am Rob Bezel from CBC

3:04

Sports. Joined as always

3:06

by Jesse Granger in Vegas and

3:08

Russo in I'm assuming still

3:11

New Jersey. Correct? Yeah. I

3:14

get catch a train. Actually, our guests today,

3:16

Matt has a train rate at the same

3:18

time as mine. Unfortunately, I don't get to go

3:20

on the really cool charter train

3:22

that the Minnesota Wild gets to go on. I'm

3:24

on a on a regular trained

3:27

with all the us folks.

3:29

Doesn't look like it though. Does it Jesse? We were joking

3:31

right before we started recording this podcast. Russo's

3:33

usually got a hat on, a t shirt, whatever

3:35

he looks all. I'll gussied up. People

3:38

could see it now on the YouTube channel for for the

3:40

athletic hockey

3:41

show. But, yeah, it it didn't look like you actually dressed

3:43

up for the train trip. Looks

3:44

like he's ready for a charter train. Yeah.

3:47

Exactly. It's like the forties. When

3:49

they used to, like, you get on an airplane or a train,

3:51

you put a suit on, but

3:54

Yeah. As as it was actually

3:56

mentioned -- Yeah. Go

3:57

ahead.

3:57

-- like like the the full disclosure is

4:00

that it's two game trip, I only brought one

4:02

sports coat, so I sorta have to wear the

4:04

sports coat on the

4:05

train. And because of that, I couldn't put

4:07

on a sweatshirt or something like that. So there you

4:09

go. Oh, people are gonna tune in

4:11

to see how you look now. But as you mentioned, Matt Boldy's

4:13

be joining us from Minnesota Wild. And

4:16

sometimes just things work out

4:18

in favor of whoever books

4:20

a guest. I don't know how

4:22

you can have a better lead up for

4:24

a guest who has Patrick, and then follows

4:26

that up with a buzzer beater in overtime. But that's

4:29

what Matt Boldy's done his last two games. He's gonna celebrate

4:31

by talking to

4:32

us. So make sure you tune into that one.

4:34

In the second half of the show. That's

4:36

the first thing I said to him in posting locker.

4:39

I'm like, man, we took a good day to have you on the podcast

4:41

in the morning. How much are you looking forward to that?

4:43

Just just crazy. But we

4:45

we we go through everything throughout the week as

4:47

as regular listeners know. So we've got to talk

4:50

little bit about everything. And when, you know,

4:52

we usually just to let people know how this show

4:54

kinda works. We have a document, and

4:56

we're constantly adding and subtracting stories

4:58

that we wanna talk about. And then there's always the question

5:00

of order. And at least for me

5:02

guys, when a Wayne Gretzky

5:05

record gets broken, I

5:07

put it at the top of the show. So gonna put this

5:09

at the top of the show. I know we've talked a lot

5:11

about Alexander Ovechkin and his goal

5:13

scoring prowess over his seventeen years in

5:15

the

5:15

NHL. But last night, he scored

5:18

his fortieth goal of the season.

5:19

His thirteenth forty

5:22

goal season passing the great one

5:24

for the most in NHL history

5:27

Of course, Gretzky had forty goals in

5:29

twelve of his twenty NHL seasons.

5:32

Ovechkin cancer has at least forty goals.

5:35

In all but three of his sixteen

5:37

full NHL seasons. The only time he did

5:39

score forty, two thousand ten,

5:41

two thousand eleven, and that brief what's

5:43

wrong with Alexandria Ovechkin phase? Then

5:46

in two thousand twelve, two thousand thirteen,

5:48

when it was shortened by a lockout, And

5:50

then in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one when

5:52

the season was short because of COVID. So, really,

5:54

guys, this

5:56

speaks to what we always talk about without general

5:59

etiquette. Elite goal scorer, but

6:01

the most consistent goal scorer

6:04

ever, and now he's got the numbers to prove it.

6:06

Russo will start with

6:07

you. Yeah. I mean, look, he scored

6:09

two against the wild the other night and and he does

6:11

it. I mean, I've never seen a guy that

6:13

you know where he's gonna shoot from and he

6:15

just scores. I mean, it's just It truly

6:17

is amazing. And as you mentioned, Rob, I mean,

6:19

imagine what his numbers would be at. We'd

6:22

probably be talking already as as him as

6:24

the we I don't think probably

6:26

would be as the all time leading gold score

6:28

in NHL history already. If it wasn't for those

6:30

two three interrupted seasons that he's had,

6:33

He's just, you know, to me,

6:36

the best goal score that I've ever seen

6:38

in my in my days covering this sport.

6:42

I was laughing when you were introducing him because when

6:44

he scored two goals the other night against Washington Mark

6:46

Parrish was doing pre and post that I told him I was

6:48

gonna start calling him up. Two

6:50

time almost thirty goal score because

6:53

he because he because he had twenty nine

6:55

one year and and, obviously,

6:57

top thirty the other time. Sorry. Sorry, Perry.

7:00

And I Boldy's the way, Audra Martin to open

7:03

every segment with Mark Parish by saying that

7:05

from now on. But he's just

7:07

a special guy. That's why the Florida Panthers tried

7:09

to draft him in the, like, the fifth seventh and ninth rounds

7:11

in two thousand three.

7:13

Yeah. You mentioned how many times

7:16

he's obviously had the forty goal

7:18

season now. To me, the most impressive part about

7:20

it is all those seasons that Gretzky

7:22

had with forty or more goals. Not

7:24

a single one came after he was thirty.

7:27

His his last forty goal season was

7:29

in his thirty year old season. And

7:32

is now doing it at thirty seven, and this

7:34

is the fifth time he

7:36

scored forty or more since he

7:38

turned thirty. Just incredible.

7:41

Like, you look at these two players careers. We're

7:43

obviously gonna compare them till

7:45

the end of times right now, the way

7:47

he's chasing his record. That's what

7:49

really stands out is the fact that Ovechkin

7:51

is doing this at a much older

7:54

age than Gretzky did. Obviously,

7:56

Gretzky racked up a lot more goals early in his

7:58

career, but the

8:00

longevity of Ovechkin cancer's goal

8:02

scoring ability is ridiculous.

8:04

With no signs of showing slowing down,

8:07

in any way, shape, or form. That's it. It's not

8:09

as if we're seeing that slow decline

8:11

where suddenly a thirty

8:13

goal season is a big deal, a twenty five

8:15

goal season is a big deal. No signs of

8:17

slowing down. And how many

8:19

people could say they have a chance in one season

8:21

to break two Gretzky goal scoring records? Because

8:24

if Alexander or Bedford is able to score ten more

8:26

goals, in Washington's final ten

8:28

games, which is not out of the realm of possibility.

8:31

He will pass Gretzky and Mike Bossy for

8:33

the most fifty goal seasons

8:36

with ten. And I I've heard a lot of

8:38

people I saw last night on Twitter too kind of

8:40

mocking the forty goal season. Like, really, are

8:42

we counting forty goal seasons? The

8:45

fifty goal season is the benchmark. If he

8:47

could if he scores ten more goals and you have

8:49

more forty, and fifty goal seasons

8:51

than anyone in history. I don't

8:54

care if he retires

8:55

tomorrow. He's the greatest goal scorer that

8:57

ever lived. You know what? I've

8:59

wondered, awesome, off often, and I

9:01

I love one day Jesse for you to ask George

9:03

McPhoebe this. But I wonder if Alex

9:05

regrets that thirteen year, a

9:07

hundred and twenty, what was a twenty four

9:09

million dollar deal that he signed in, like, two thousand

9:12

eight? Because you I mean, if you think

9:14

about it, he's made made nine and a half pretty

9:16

much his entire career. And,

9:18

I mean, this is a guy that should be a fourteen,

9:20

fifteen million dollar player, all the Simon. He

9:22

got ahead of the game, the caps I thought did a

9:24

great contract at the time. Think at the time,

9:27

a lot of people like, whoa, what are you doing? But

9:29

in in hindsight, you know, you kinda wonder

9:31

if George McPhee feels like that was one of

9:33

the best business decisions he's ever

9:35

made. Yeah. I mean, he

9:37

he's making money from those life insurance commercials

9:39

though with if getting his hats off though. Right? So

9:41

he'll be alright. Good point.

9:44

So the eyes will still be on Alexanderovitch

9:47

kit. He's sitting at eight twenty. Gretz kit eight

9:49

ninety four and records are followed

9:52

let's keep moving on, guys. Head out

9:54

to Colorado because Jared

9:56

Bednar gonna be sticking around there.

9:59

Probably for the next few years, signed a three

10:01

year extension with the avalanche,

10:04

you know, you look at what he's done in his

10:06

career. Just wins at every level. He's the

10:08

only coach ever to win an ECHL title,

10:11

Kelly Cup, with the South Carolina stingrays

10:13

in 09A Calder Cup title with

10:16

the Lake Erie Monsters in twenty sixteen,

10:18

and then, of course, that big silver trophy

10:20

they give out at the end of every NHL season.

10:23

And it seems like just yesterday

10:25

going into the playoffs last year, people were saying

10:27

if this team doesn't make a run, his

10:30

his job is in serious jeopardy, and now he's

10:32

got a little bit more a little bit more of a

10:34

cushion with this three year

10:35

extension. What your thoughts on this, Jesse? Yeah.

10:38

I'll admit I was one of the people who

10:40

was I don't wanna say low

10:42

on Jared Bednar because I didn't think he was a bad

10:44

coach, but I thought he was I thought the

10:46

avalanche were under forming under him. I

10:48

was pretty critical of Bednar, especially the

10:51

year before they lost to Vegas. So

10:53

I was up up close watching this.

10:55

When they lost to the Golden Knights in

10:57

the second round, and it just

11:00

felt like he got out coached. Like, I thought he

11:02

wasn't making adjustments. The Golden Knights started

11:04

shutting them down was on and they really struggled. And

11:06

I was I was one of the people

11:08

saying, if he doesn't get it done this year,

11:10

you've got to find another coach because this team is

11:12

too talented and he clearly has found a way

11:14

to get it done. And then now this year, sometimes

11:17

coaches have

11:19

to do their best coaching in years that aren't as

11:21

impressive, like this isn't the president's

11:23

trophy that they've had the last couple seasons.

11:26

But With all these injuries, he's had

11:28

to do a lot more coaching this year than in

11:30

past years, you look down this line up and there are

11:32

a lot of young players playing major roles

11:34

for this team. And they're still finding a way

11:36

to be in playoff position. I

11:39

saw last year of Vegas when big players

11:41

go down, it's very easy to miss the

11:43

playoffs. And this team has not done

11:45

that. I think Bednar has done a great job

11:47

and I've definitely turned around my opinion.

11:50

was one of the people kinda saying he should be on the hot

11:52

seat not anymore. He he deserves a three year

11:54

extension. He's a great coach.

11:55

And if you remember when he was originally hired,

11:58

it was what August of two thousand and

12:00

I think sixteen. And

12:03

I was actually in front of the Pepsi Center

12:05

at the time when Patrick Waught resigned

12:07

suddenly. That earlier couple

12:09

of weeks earlier, I was, like, up there for trample

12:11

by turtles concert or something. And

12:14

and I was trying and I was driving up to

12:16

up the mountain to go to this

12:18

concert. And all of a sudden, the news comes out

12:20

right in front of the Pepsi center. That Patrick

12:23

Walk quit, and you're just like, what the heck?

12:25

Two weeks later, they hired Jared Bedard straight

12:27

off the cauldron cup, if I remember correctly. But

12:30

I remember that first year, they had, like, twenty

12:32

two wins. They had, like, forty something points.

12:35

Everybody is, like, this guy must be the worst coach

12:37

in the world they lose the lottery and

12:39

fall into that awful defenseman, Kalimakar.

12:43

You know, like like and and you just

12:45

you you start to think, like, you know, you

12:47

know, next year, they get forty wins. I think

12:49

they they they lost in the first round. But

12:52

you just wondered, like, alright, at some point

12:54

though, will there be that time where Joe

12:56

Saket and eventually Chris McFarlane make

12:58

that move and hire the coach that they probably

13:01

wanted to be the heir apparent to Bednar when they

13:03

first hired him. Sometimes he think

13:05

as a placeholder. And he's

13:08

they were patient with him. I

13:10

think he's grown as a coach. We've seen him

13:12

hold his stars accountable. And he's just

13:14

got this presence, you know, just being around them during

13:16

this Stanley Cup on a last year when I was covering

13:18

it for us. Like, he's just he does

13:20

have this really cool presence about this

13:22

team, and he could shore coach. And and,

13:25

you know, I think it's a great move by the organization

13:27

to get him locked down, obviously. And I

13:29

think that we're starting see a Colorado team

13:31

right now that's just primed to

13:34

take over this conference. They're on fire.

13:36

I think they're gonna win the division. And

13:38

there's just there's just that team

13:40

right now is I think maybe

13:42

earlier this year when they were banged up, got also

13:44

got a little bored Now they're suddenly realizing

13:47

they got their eye on what really matters, and

13:49

it's a second straight

13:50

cup, and we'll see if they could do it. Well,

13:52

that leads us into that. Let let's talk a little bit about

13:55

the playoff races because we're certainly at the point

13:57

of the year where I

13:59

don't know about you guys. I'm constantly looking

14:01

at standings way more than I do any other time.

14:03

Especially, you look at the west. I mean,

14:06

you you take the teams that are in the top three positions

14:08

in division, you add the four teams

14:10

that are battling for a wildcard spot

14:13

and the number of points that separate

14:15

them are sitting at a grand total of

14:17

twelve, which is just bananas

14:19

in the west. AAA5 or six game winning

14:22

streak. And suddenly, you you go from

14:24

a wildcard team to first overall

14:26

it in the in the the conference.

14:29

What's most intriguing to? We'll start the West. We'll

14:31

hit both conferences. But we'll start in the West,

14:33

Jesse. What what's really jumps out

14:35

to you as a guy who covers the team who's now sitting

14:37

in first place in the conference. Yeah.

14:39

The I mean, it's they're winning too.

14:41

This isn't a case of teams are all bunched

14:44

up because nobody can pull away. Like, the Golden

14:46

Knights have the best record since the all

14:48

star break in the entire NHL. They're like, I

14:50

think thirteen and two or something, and

14:52

they're tied with the kings atop the Pacific.

14:55

Actually, I think they took a two point lead last night,

14:57

but basically every night, those two

14:59

are either two points away or tied. And,

15:01

yeah, it's just it's really jumbled.

15:04

There's twelve games. The Golden Knights play pretty

15:06

much all Pacific Division and Western Conference

15:08

opponents from here out. So these teams

15:10

are gonna be playing each other a lot. So, you know,

15:12

the whole Cliche four

15:14

point game, those really matter

15:17

when the standings are this tight. Like, it's

15:19

going to swing a lot. These games are gonna

15:21

be fun. don't remember the last time there were, like,

15:23

this many meaningful games, not

15:26

just to make the playoffs, but for the standings.

15:28

And that can make a big difference with

15:30

seating match ups and everything. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

15:32

I I guess, to me, the most intriguing team is

15:34

probably Calgary. They had the highest

15:36

expectations coming in. Like, I think they were the

15:38

favorites to win the Pacific vision, Emmer Edmonton.

15:41

And they haven't been good for most

15:43

of the year, but it does look like they're playing a

15:45

little better. Jacob Markstrom's playing

15:48

a little better in that. I think that If

15:51

they do get in, they can be a tough matchup.

15:53

They've got the talent, obviously. If the

15:55

thing if everything clicks, they're physical

15:57

heavy team that kinda thrives in

15:59

in playoff style hockey.

16:01

I don't think I think teams in the

16:03

West would rather not play Calgary would be my

16:05

guess. What do you think Michael? Yeah.

16:08

I I would agree. I think a lot of teams

16:10

are hoping to finish first so they could play

16:12

Winnipeg. No. I mean,

16:14

Winnipeg right now, they're just if they if they

16:16

get in, they just do not look like a formidable

16:18

opponent by by any stretch

16:20

of imagination just has not have not played

16:22

well for some time. Nashville

16:25

is a weird team too. Right? I mean, you know,

16:27

obviously, we had David Pollan a couple weeks

16:29

ago. He made some moves to essentially start

16:31

the retooling of that franchise then

16:34

they go to places like New York at their butts

16:36

kick, but then they rebound and they figure out a

16:38

way, you know, in terms of points percentage, they're

16:40

right on they're they're technically in ninth.

16:43

You know, ahead of Calgary because they have three games

16:45

in hand. I I'm kind of intrigued

16:47

though with what's going on in the central division

16:49

guys. I mean, you know, again, it's just jockeying

16:51

for for a while last night after

16:53

the wild beat the Devils an overtime

16:55

on Boldy's, an overtime winner,

16:58

right at the buzzer, The wild were

17:00

actually in first place for the first time all

17:03

year, and then Jamie Ben says

17:06

Boldy's my beer. And scores with

17:08

seven tenths of a second before the Dallas

17:10

Stars did the normal losing in overtime.

17:12

They have fourteen overtime loss points this

17:14

year. You know, so, you

17:16

know, that is unbelievable. And so you have

17:18

this Dallas Minnesota jacking right now,

17:21

but then you have Colorado sitting there

17:23

right from behind. They've won some of the last

17:25

ten seven of the last ten games. They

17:27

have two games hand on both of them,

17:29

only two points behind. And think a

17:31

lot of us just expect, especially because I think

17:33

Dallas and Colorado have the easier schedules

17:36

that Colorado is gonna wind up winning the division

17:38

in Dallas and Minnesota are gonna be playing each

17:40

other in the first drown. And Dallas has played

17:42

really well against the wild, you know,

17:44

not just this year, but for for many

17:46

years. So it's just gonna be really interesting.

17:48

I think what happens in the central the rest

17:50

of the way here. You mentioned Dallas analyzer

17:52

point sorry. Dallas analyzer

17:54

point, they are they have ninety points there in

17:57

atop the division. If you just take away all

17:59

their loser points, which I think we should.

18:01

They're not even close to the playoffs. They're

18:03

they're way outside the playoffs. Like, they're, like, in

18:05

tenth place and probably have no chance

18:07

of making the

18:08

playoffs. Just thought I'd -- Yeah. -- mention

18:09

this. Not the wild. You know, I

18:11

I will say I will say conversely, you

18:14

know, team like the wild. I think they'd lead the league

18:16

and over time and shoot that one. So, you know, you

18:18

could almost say, alright, you know, if that's flipped,

18:20

it's the same thing. That's just the league that we're

18:22

in. It's how they hate everything close.

18:24

But you're right. I mean, I used to joke all the time

18:27

back when this was a a you know, back

18:29

in the day, you made the playoffs

18:31

and you could have pretty much

18:33

be a five hundred team. Right? Or or and,

18:35

you know, you'd theoretically in the tie system

18:38

could go, oh, oh, in eighty two with that and

18:41

and make the playoffs. And it just seems

18:43

like you know, it just seems like the Dallas

18:45

Stars are putting that to the test right now. remember

18:47

talking to Pete DeBoer at the All Star game. Jesse,

18:50

if you remember that, we were talking about, like, some changes

18:52

that could over time agents, I just wanna win

18:54

one of these games once in a while because at the

18:56

time, they were at also leading the league

18:58

in in overtime and shootout losses.

19:02

And then over the east, for me, the

19:04

most intriguing is just down at the

19:06

bottom, the the the race for the wildcard

19:09

because could we have

19:11

a Stanley Cup playoffs without

19:13

both the penguins and the capitals in

19:16

there? I mean, we haven't seen Enwood's missed

19:18

the playoffs since 0506, the capital since

19:20

two thousand fourteen. I mean, Ottawa

19:23

and Buffalo hats off

19:25

for making it exciting, but that's not

19:27

gonna happen. But, I mean, is it gonna

19:29

be Florida and the Islanders in those wild

19:31

card spots? What's

19:34

more exciting as a hockey fan? What

19:36

what do you guys think as far as those two wildcard sports

19:38

go? Because I just it seems weird to

19:40

me to think no

19:41

Crosby, oral etiquette in the playoffs.

19:44

Russo? Yeah. I don't think they're

19:46

making it. I think Florida's getting in. And I I

19:48

definitely think the Islanders are getting in. I mean, they

19:50

got I got the maybe the

19:52

best goalie in the world right now in Saroken.

19:55

You know, sorry to line this all mark. But,

19:57

I mean, Saroken, the guy is just

19:59

unbelievable too. But

20:02

I just I don't know what's going on with the

20:04

with the penguins. And I I will

20:06

say, as a media member, I am thoroughly

20:08

entertained by right now, the beat writers

20:10

in Pittsburgh just like trying to

20:12

outrage each other. It's

20:14

like every single day is just

20:16

like who could write the nastier story

20:19

about the penguins. And so I think it'd almost

20:21

be funny if they go get into the playoffs and,

20:23

like, here, here's your gift for doing that, playing

20:25

the Boston Bruins in the first around. I

20:28

think Florida makes it really disappointed with

20:30

the Buffalo Savers. You know,

20:33

I just cannot believe the way that they've fallen

20:35

down here. You know, losing

20:37

what eight of the last ten games at least

20:39

and just, you know, getting spanked against

20:41

teams that they shouldn't get

20:43

spanked. It's it's

20:44

-- I think it's a -- other whole bunch. Exactly.

20:47

You know? And that game obviously, it's the ruins.

20:49

It's the ruins, but on second of back to back,

20:51

which travel coming from Minnesota to Buffalo,

20:53

which is not an easy flight. Really,

20:57

really interesting. And the other team that It

20:59

doesn't treat me right now or the Rangers. Doesn't

21:01

it feel like right now they are just finding themselves.

21:04

They're they're suddenly they've put in all these

21:06

pieces like Kaye and

21:07

Tyrosenko, and they just suddenly look

21:09

like a team that is realizing how

21:11

good they could

21:12

be. Yeah. I totally agree

21:14

with all that. In terms of hockey fans.

21:16

What's the most exciting? I think you're

21:18

looking at those top teams, Caroline and

21:20

Boston. Who are they gonna play in the first

21:22

round? And to me, If

21:24

they're playing Pittsburgh and Washington, we've

21:27

seen this story a million times and they aren't

21:29

gonna beat them. Not that the Islanders

21:31

and Panthers are gonna beat them, but I

21:34

think there's a little more intrigue there, and

21:36

and Michael mentioned it, Ilya Saroku.

21:39

If there's someone that can cast doubt

21:41

in the ruins and and can give

21:44

us a series. I already see it in my head

21:46

right now. Ilya Saroku forty

21:48

six save shot out game one. Islanders

21:50

are up, and everyone in Boston goes, oh,

21:52

no. Here we go. If there's

21:54

a guy who can take that Boston team

21:57

down on his own, it's Ilias Sarukin.

21:59

I wanna see it. I wanna see the Islanders

22:01

against Boston. I don't think they're gonna win. I think

22:03

the Blues are way And they've

22:05

got a goalie that's just as good. Behind

22:07

an even stronger team in in Omar.

22:09

But that's the way you take that.

22:11

Like, the only way one of these wildcard teams

22:13

can take down team as good as Boston is with

22:16

a goalie that just loses his mind for

22:18

for four out of seven games. And if there's a guy that

22:20

can do it, it's all Mark. So I think from an from

22:22

an entertainment perspective, I

22:25

would much rather see the island. And, like, same thing

22:27

with, like, Panthers Hurricanes. I think the Panthers

22:29

can skate with the Hurricanes. They haven't played

22:31

well this season. They've we we keep

22:33

expecting this team to be the

22:36

the team of last year in

22:38

terms of the offense they can score and they just

22:40

haven't, but I believe they can

22:42

turn it on more than Pittsburgh or Washington.

22:44

So from from an entertainment

22:47

in the first round perspective, I'd rather see Islanders

22:49

and Panthers in there.

22:50

Rob, don't you think this podcast deserves

22:53

Boston versus the Islanders just to

22:55

see Jesse just geek out for seven games

22:57

with all Mark and Saroken? I

22:59

was about to say, I hope you enjoy

23:02

a triple over time zero zero,

23:04

you

23:05

know, type series. We'll see it like

23:07

I I as someone who's known

23:09

to wager dollar or two on the outcome of a

23:11

hockey game under under under

23:14

blindly. Put whatever number. If it's

23:16

two and a half, I'm like, under you know,

23:18

it's just there's no way that's gonna be I

23:20

score x series, but maybe the

23:22

every time I see that, that it's like, well, the score

23:25

after three periods is seven

23:27

to five Brewids. One

23:29

more story, guys, before we get to break in that

23:31

Boldy's. And it's story

23:33

that just seems to keep coming up on

23:36

not only our show, but anyone who talks

23:38

hockey, it involves pride jerseys,

23:40

edits, reared its ugly

23:42

head again this week. In case you've been

23:44

living under a rock, if you remember earlier this

23:46

season, Ivan Proverov, boycotted

23:49

his team scheduled Pride night in

23:51

January. Days later, the Rangers

23:53

said they're not gonna have a pride themed Jersey

23:56

night as they had originally scheduled. Earlier

23:58

this month, the wild declined to wear

24:00

pride jerseys during warm up. And now

24:03

James Reimer enters the discussion. He

24:05

refused to wear pride jersey during warm

24:07

up saying it was because of his religious

24:09

beliefs. He released

24:12

a statement and the statement ended with the

24:14

following quote, I strongly believe

24:16

that every person has value and worth

24:18

and the LGBTQA plus

24:21

community, like all others, should be welcomed

24:23

in all aspects of the Game of Hockey.

24:27

But I'm not gonna wear their Jersey. When

24:31

you saw this story and everything that came

24:33

out after it, is

24:35

it starting to get little exhausting seeing

24:38

this? Or is is this just almost

24:41

hate to say it, but the tip of the iceberg, is this

24:43

not going to go away? Russo.

24:46

Yeah. I I don't think so. That

24:48

is gonna go away. And I think definitely

24:50

the precedent has been set. You know,

24:53

I am one of those people that think that everybody should,

24:55

you know, that that everybody should

24:57

have their own beliefs and you're able to do

25:00

what you want and freedom and all that stuff.

25:02

But I just think that in this situation, I

25:04

just think, you know, I don't know. I don't

25:06

don't like it. I don't like what it says to,

25:09

you know, look, loop the other day puts out

25:11

this statement and just imagine him walking

25:13

into that locker room now and if he's gonna ever

25:15

feel comfortable, if he ever, you know, played

25:17

for the sharks or with James primer and

25:20

you, you know, it just felt like

25:22

we're going backwards there. And then,

25:24

you know, I I don't like the

25:26

And I and I will preface this by saying

25:28

that I am not the most religious person

25:30

in the world. But I just I

25:33

I do I'm very cynical when people

25:35

blame or not blame. That might be the wrong

25:37

word. But but use religion

25:40

as an excuse because it does feel

25:42

like certain parts of everybody's religion

25:44

is cherry picked here. And

25:46

there's a lot of things as

25:48

a devout Christian that or

25:51

Catholic that James Reimer basically

25:54

is a hippocrit about every single time every

25:56

time he plays a game on on Sunday.

25:58

It's it's it's great. You know? So

26:00

I don't know. I I just I I didn't like

26:03

it. And I do think that this

26:05

is gonna be a topic in

26:07

the NHL offices on how best to handle

26:09

this because I think that the majority

26:11

of teams are trying to do the right thing

26:13

here with these pride

26:15

nights. And then it just takes you know,

26:17

when one guy does this. It just takes away from

26:19

everything else that they're trying to do

26:21

good. And and, you know,

26:24

I I think that I do think the sharks handled

26:26

it right like, I think that it was smart to get

26:28

ahead of it and not do what the wild did

26:30

couple weeks ago and almost, you know, pretend

26:32

like you you know, let's hope that

26:34

people don't realize that we're not wearing the

26:36

jerseys. So at least here, they they handle

26:38

it in from that perspective. I

26:41

agree with Michael Vitt. I do not

26:43

like the message it sends when a player

26:45

doesn't wanna wear a jersey. And then he comes

26:47

out with the statement that basically

26:50

says the opposite of what

26:52

message he's sending by now one to enter the Jersey.

26:55

Rob read the quote, Everyone

26:57

from this community is welcoming the NHL

27:00

except your actions just showed

27:02

the exact

27:03

opposite. Yep.

27:04

And I

27:07

just don't It's talking out of both sides of your mouth.

27:10

I don't like putting out a

27:12

statement that says, I am totally

27:14

welcoming everyone into hockey

27:17

except for if you want me to wear this Jersey

27:19

that shows that. I'm not doing it because that's

27:21

what the Jersey show. The jerseys

27:25

are designed to show everyone's

27:27

welcome in hockey. And if you agree with that,

27:29

You have no problem wearing the jersey because that's

27:31

all it signifies. The jersey isn't signifying

27:34

you're a member of that community or

27:36

anything else that that these players

27:39

are acting like it signifies. All

27:41

these jerseys are meant to signify is that

27:43

this group of people, everyone

27:46

in the

27:46

world, is welcome in hockey. And

27:48

if you

27:49

don't wanna wear the jersey to me, you're saying they're

27:51

not. That's right

27:53

along the lines of what Brian Burke said

27:55

in response to this as well. I'll read you his quote,

27:58

excuse me, quote, I wish players would understand

28:01

that the Pride jerseys or Pride sweaters

28:03

are about inclusion and welcoming everybody.

28:06

A player wearing pride colors or tape

28:08

isn't endorsing a set of values

28:10

or listing in a cause. He's saying

28:12

you are welcome here and you are

28:15

in every single NHL building. End quote,

28:17

and said this during the Probravir situation

28:19

as well. That's all this is.

28:22

And I think people are missing the point a lot

28:24

of the same way they missed the call it cap predict

28:26

point and every everything else that you see all the

28:28

time. If

28:30

James Reimer is doing this and there is someone

28:32

on his team who is part

28:34

of that community and maybe hasn't let anyone

28:36

know about it, you're Say saying to this

28:38

player, I don't have your back. I'm

28:41

not gonna have your back. I can't even do the

28:43

bare minimum, which Nobody's

28:45

asking you to to be an advocate

28:47

publicly or, you know, marching praise or anything.

28:50

They're asking you to wear a jersey just to say,

28:52

hey, guys. As the NHL's been pumping

28:54

in our face for years now, if you can play,

28:56

you can play. You're welcome in this dressing

28:58

room. And and certain

29:00

players are flat out saying, no,

29:03

absolutely not. And I

29:05

I agree with everything that both of you just said,

29:07

the message it sends out for

29:10

the league as a member of that team,

29:13

just as a whole, is just it's

29:16

it's ugly. It's just not It's

29:18

not what Hock usually is

29:19

about, which is, you know, you fight for the

29:21

the the crest on the

29:23

front of your jersey, and the guy sitting next

29:25

to you in the dressing room just doesn't feel that to

29:28

And I I've said this before, and I

29:30

know it and it it's gotten me in hot

29:32

water on Twitter with some people that are offended

29:34

by what I'm saying, but the people that are getting

29:36

up in arms in support of

29:38

these actions, it

29:41

is so hypocritical of the reaction.

29:43

I mean, they're acting like freedom, freedom, you have

29:45

your own personal beliefs and all that stuff.

29:47

If all of a sudden a player tomorrow to say, you

29:49

know what, I'm not gonna take it, take part in US

29:51

military appreciation, I those same

29:54

people would be flipping the heck out.

29:56

Okay? So it is about the

29:58

Jersey specifically that these people

30:00

are getting up in arms about.

30:02

Absolutely. It's going to Raymore. And,

30:05

unfortunately, I think Russo might be right. This is

30:07

I don't know if this is gonna go away because

30:09

I really thought after the pro Rob situation, people

30:13

or teams or players would be little afraid

30:15

to step out on that ledge like

30:17

that, and it just doesn't seem that way.

30:19

So and we've seen multiple

30:21

cases now. And I will be

30:23

I I'll be interested to see how the league handles

30:25

this. Alright? Because, I mean, you know, it's just because

30:28

it takes these instances if

30:30

it's gonna get just continue to grow and grow and

30:32

grow. It really does take away of what the event's

30:34

all about. So do you do you just go

30:36

back to, like, you know, alright, we're gonna

30:38

have, you know, hockey fights

30:41

cancer night, and we'll have the military

30:43

appreciation, and that's it. And

30:45

no more special jerseys, but we still do

30:47

these nights. Do we just have one all

30:49

encompassing night that celebrates

30:53

everything like, at some the

30:55

league is gonna have to actually have to have

30:57

a conversation about this because

30:59

next season, this is not just gonna

31:01

stop. It's probably gonna become

31:03

more of a thing. And, you

31:06

know, again, I actually feel bad like,

31:08

you know, in Philadelphia, there's a great example

31:10

is that those players tried, you know,

31:12

James Van Rheemsdijk, and who is it, Scott Lawton?

31:14

They tried to do this incredible thing

31:17

and yet all the story was about

31:19

was Proveroth. Proveroth, Proveroth, and

31:21

that become it's even with the wild the

31:23

other night, you know, it's like the

31:25

Jersey became the talking point,

31:28

but not all the initiatives that were going on

31:30

actually at the arena that night or what John Merrill

31:32

did in bringing out people and giving

31:34

them a suite and things like that. That's not

31:36

that was not what was talked about. And so

31:38

if this is gonna continue to be this distraction,

31:41

You don't wanna give the players that out by saying, alright,

31:43

we're gonna not gonna have jerseys on any team,

31:45

but the league is gonna have to have an honest discussion

31:47

this this year on what's gonna go into future

31:49

seasons. So this doesn't

31:51

become the distraction where it just takes away

31:54

from what they're trying to achieve.

31:57

Well said, Mike, we'll leave it there. Coming up

31:59

after the break. Matt Boldy's the Minnesota Wild,

32:02

we gave him a night of rest because he's had pretty

32:04

busy couple of games and he's gonna come on to talk to

32:06

us about hat

32:06

tricks, buzzer beaters and everything else,

32:09

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Alright, guys. I know in March, it's not

35:54

a shocker to see buzzer beaters, but usually

35:56

we're talking college basketball and we're talking about buzzer

35:58

beaters. But last night, Matt pulled

36:01

off one for the wild in

36:03

overtime. And that was fresh off a hat trick

36:05

too. So he has two crazy good

36:07

games And then he comes on and talks

36:09

to us. Matt the Minnesota Wild

36:11

joining us on the athletic podcast. Thanks

36:13

so much for doing this. Yeah.

36:15

Of course. No worries. Gotta

36:18

start with the OT goal. How

36:21

much gas did you have left

36:23

in the tank? Because you know,

36:26

you you get the Boldy's and

36:28

it felt like one of those video games

36:30

or the the turbos almost out and I'm

36:32

just sitting there just to make

36:33

it. If he gets a shot, this thing could go in. How

36:35

much gas was in the tank for that OT

36:38

goal? Yeah.

36:40

There wasn't much, to be honest. It

36:42

was it was kinda just

36:45

just put your head down and go as much as you could,

36:47

but I mean, I wasn't too

36:49

sure about how much time was left

36:51

either. So and honestly, helped me out.

36:53

It didn't stress me out too much. Matt,

36:55

as a first of all, it's a huge paths

36:58

fan. I gotta think that you like that you celebrated

37:00

right in front of Eli Manning yesterday. I don't

37:02

know if you saw that that picture of you celebrating

37:04

a right behind you as a very bombed Eli

37:06

Manning. But I wanted

37:09

to know so after the game last night, Mason

37:11

Show was saying that him and Dror

37:13

and do him or on the bench giving you grief

37:15

as you were going back on the back check,

37:17

chasing Jack Hughes, saying to get the

37:19

piano off your back, did you actually hear that

37:21

from the from the

37:22

Bednar? Or or do you not hear stuff like

37:24

that? Not from

37:26

the bench, but I hear it about every other game

37:29

from from those three. Yeah.

37:31

They're some of my best friends. So I

37:33

definitely we're definitely not

37:36

afraid to choke each

37:36

other, and that's that's one that I get quite a bit

37:39

for most three. And what was funny is

37:41

yesterday morning in the when I was talking

37:43

to you about coming on the podcast at the morning's

37:45

gate, Shaw was make said to you

37:47

to make sure to give them credit for all the work

37:49

that they do for you guys. Yeah.

37:52

Exactly. All those guys are great.

37:54

Like I said, they're showing my best friends. So

37:56

they make they make this

37:58

whole experience and and playing

38:00

in in the NHL even more fun. I'm just

38:02

just having some of your best friends right

38:04

there. We've

38:05

mentioned your two game stretch. What's better?

38:07

Hat trick or buzzer, Peter, and overtime.

38:12

I'll take either one. I I'm not gonna

38:15

not gonna be too picky about it, but

38:17

I'll take the hat trick before the the buzzer

38:20

reader. That's

38:22

Matt, I've gotten to know your family really

38:24

well. You know, I've met your your,

38:26

you know, your stepmom, your mom, your dad, your

38:29

brothers, your stepbrothers, everything.

38:31

Your dad is somebody that I've gotten

38:34

really immense amount of respect for.

38:36

I mean, he's he's a police officer that's assigned

38:38

to the DA We were in

38:40

Boston this year. And the

38:42

next day, he had some big bust planned,

38:45

and he said that's like his game day. You

38:47

know, what what was it like growing up in that

38:49

type of environment? And how much do you just respect,

38:52

you

38:52

know, how big of an influence was that on

38:54

you growing up? Yeah.

38:57

I think played a big role. Just

39:01

I mean, obviously, my my parents raised

39:03

me and all my siblings with with

39:05

certain values and stuff like that. And I think

39:09

we definitely were they weren't

39:11

too strict, but they definitely kept

39:14

kept us tight and and how is

39:16

to to being good people. And I think just

39:19

stuff like that, I think we played a big role

39:22

respect. Learning learning

39:24

ways to to be a good person and stuff

39:26

like that, but definitely just

39:29

the right way to live life and and definitely

39:31

to stay away from drugs in terms of my dad

39:34

and what he does. So it's

39:37

he kinda learned the crazy

39:39

part of life that some people go through stuff

39:41

like

39:42

that, and it's it's an interesting

39:44

way. But, yeah, it definitely played

39:46

a big role. Speaking

39:48

of being a good person, I was reading Russo's piece

39:51

and, you know, it was brought up that your twentieth

39:53

goal cashed in a nice little bonus

39:55

for you. And Ryan Reeves says, well, I

39:57

guess we got a team dinner coming soon. Did

40:00

the check magically appear at your hands

40:02

when a team dinner

40:05

happened after, you know, cashing in that

40:07

nice little hundred twelve thousand dollar bonus?

40:11

Not yet, but I'm sure they're they're gonna try.

40:15

Yeah. It's it's all fun. No.

40:17

I mean, those guys are are the reason

40:19

that that bonuses like that happen.

40:21

I mean, not out there doing it by

40:23

myself, guys. There guys are helping me in

40:26

making plays and making it really easy for me.

40:28

So the more you get back to your

40:29

teammates, the the better craft you are.

40:32

Matt, I I was talking to Jack Hughes yesterday morning

40:34

about you, and obviously, he had a a ton

40:36

of incredible stuff to say about you

40:38

about your time. You know, in Ann Arbor,

40:40

playing internationally, putting on the USA,

40:42

Jersey, and and things like that.

40:45

And and you look at those rosters of those teams.

40:47

I mean, you know, the 40 and the

40:49

Zebra and obviously Hughes

40:51

and and and all that. What was that whole experience

40:53

like kind of growing up in that program

40:55

with such incredible players? And how much

40:57

does that how much did it drive

40:59

you then to keep up with them? But how much does

41:01

it also even at this point to see all

41:03

of you guys succeeding in AHL? Is there that

41:06

competition?

41:08

Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I

41:11

think we had eight first round numbers.

41:13

So it's It

41:16

was just exciting. I mean, going to the rink every

41:18

day. I think that program was the best thing that ever

41:20

happened for me. Just

41:23

just the person I am and how competitive I am being

41:25

able to go there and be with those guys and

41:27

and see it firsthand and and compete

41:29

with them every day was the sun that played

41:32

a big role and just me and how I approached

41:34

Rocky and and kinda figured everything

41:36

out. You

41:37

think being around all those guys kinda pushed

41:39

you all? Yeah.

41:41

For sure. I think you go to practice every

41:43

day. We were practicing for for an hour, hour

41:45

and a half every day and staying

41:47

on the ice with those guys, just talking to each

41:49

other. I mean, not only are you playing

41:51

hockey with these guys, you're with them twenty four seven,

41:54

so they're some of your best friends. So, I

41:56

mean, you learn a lot from each other. You learn different

41:58

ways to play. I mean, you look at all

42:00

those guys who just mentioned and

42:02

everyone plays a different way, but I think we're

42:04

able to kind of help each other out and and

42:06

talk to each other about certain things that we're

42:08

all able to kind of pick up your stuff

42:10

and and stuff like that.

42:13

Along those lines with CapriSoft,

42:15

I gotta ask you, obviously, I'm with an injury now,

42:18

but he just strikes me as someone who would

42:20

blow your mind almost more in

42:22

practice. Watching

42:24

him just try new things because the

42:26

things he does in a game make fans jump

42:28

out of their

42:29

seats, but what's he like just watching and

42:31

practice? Even just warming up and practice,

42:33

he do things that that blow your mind

42:35

every day? He

42:38

definitely has the ability to I

42:41

mean, you give him a lot of credit. I mean, for

42:44

for as big of a superstar he is and how good

42:46

he is. He he plays the hard way. He

42:48

doesn't do it easy. doesn't play only

42:50

skill. He he plays so hard and and

42:53

competes and and wins battles

42:55

and uses his body and stuff like that, which you

42:57

don't see too much. But think

42:59

just just that aspect of it. I think compresses

43:02

all of us so much just because he

43:04

has all the skill in the world and and that's that's

43:06

honestly his last resort when it comes to

43:08

to making plays on the ICU. He he

43:10

wants to play a hard way. He wants to port checking.

43:13

And hit guys and and kinda get into

43:15

the spaces to score goals. But like

43:17

I said, it's it's not it's not

43:19

the soft and perimeter in QA. It's it's

43:22

it's hard

43:23

way, and he does a pretty good job

43:25

of it, honestly. Matt,

43:27

you guys are four one and one without without

43:29

Carell. And I I think that you know you know

43:31

as well as anybody, I think a lot of

43:33

times when an injury happens to somebody that

43:36

impactful on a team, I think there's doom and gloom

43:38

anytime, but especially in Minnesota where

43:40

where, you know, fans and media sometimes can

43:42

cut can can really, you know, just

43:44

almost have this fatalist attitude. What

43:47

what it happened you know, is it

43:49

like, what happened inside that room that allowed

43:51

you guys to all of a sudden come together and

43:53

continue playing as well as that you were

43:56

before he went out because you were on fire before,

43:59

you you've been on fire since and

44:01

especially you in particular stepping up

44:03

with six goals and ten points in the six games

44:06

that he's been out.

44:08

Yeah. Not much changed, to be honest. I think

44:12

I mean, it's it's no secret that he's our

44:14

best player. And when

44:16

when guys like that go down, it's it sucks

44:19

and it's a little bit deflating and you don't

44:21

really know what to expect. And, yeah,

44:23

it could have gone the other way. We we could have

44:25

lost all these games and we felt sorry for

44:27

ourselves and stuff like that. But But

44:29

we didn't. I think, Kim, that that

44:31

speaks a lot to just kind of the group we have.

44:33

But, yeah, it's you're

44:35

not gonna change it. You're not gonna go back in

44:37

time and and change the play where he

44:40

gets hurt. So the quicker that you're able to kinda

44:42

process that and and realize

44:44

that he's out and we need to keep winning games.

44:46

To to get into playoffs and and get

44:48

a good seed and stuff like that, the the better

44:50

off we're gonna be. So I think I

44:52

think we processed it quick in in

44:54

a good way in terms of we weren't

44:57

gonna feel sorry for ourselves or or, like,

44:59

we weren't gonna be a good team because he wasn't

45:01

playing. But, obviously, we we

45:03

walked him back back in our

45:04

lineup. He's he's unbelievable. And

45:06

mean, you guys see it every night just like us?

45:10

Matt, also similarly, you know,

45:12

you guys really stumbled out of the

45:14

all star break and and you had bad loss

45:16

against the Vegas Golden Knights at home. And

45:18

we wrote a story the other day where Marcus Fleyenow

45:20

and couple of guys were really honest in the

45:22

fact that you had a real frank team meeting

45:24

after that game. Billy said some stuff. Dean

45:26

said some stuff. The leaders on the team

45:28

said some stuff. And yet, now you're thirteen

45:30

and one and three since then. How

45:34

without sharing the inside details of what

45:36

happens in a meeting like that as a youngster, you

45:38

know, you as as a hockey fan

45:40

growing up, you always hear about these closed doors

45:43

team meetings and and things like that.

45:45

What is it like for a young guy to be part of that?

45:47

And what what was the overall message

45:49

in that meeting that really helped you guys

45:51

get to the point where you have been on

45:54

such a terror? Yeah.

45:57

I think I

46:00

think just just honestly relaxed.

46:02

I think we at that point,

46:04

we things weren't going our

46:06

way. We lost a couple in a row and We

46:08

were playing we were

46:10

playing our style, we were playing

46:12

how we play smart, defensive,

46:15

and and going from there, we're kinda

46:17

all over the place. So I think the more that

46:19

we're able to kinda settle

46:21

down and relax and and play our own

46:23

game and and play how we know

46:25

how to play rather than trying to to keep up

46:27

with these teams that that run and gun and

46:29

they wanna score six or seven goals a

46:31

night. It's kinda

46:34

just stuff like that. And I think, obviously,

46:37

it hit pretty well with our group, and I think that's

46:39

that's a good thing. I

46:41

wouldn't say that we have a crazy amount of meetings

46:44

or anything like that or or

46:46

guys yelling at each other

46:48

left and right, but it's guys are

46:50

when people speak out, people listen, and,

46:53

obviously, that goes a long way when when

46:56

you only hear it a couple times rather than

46:58

on it being harp down over and over and over

47:00

again. It's it's obviously a pretty nice

47:02

thing as a player.

47:05

On a lighter note, I'd like to ask you. So I

47:07

I covered Marc Andre Flori quite

47:09

a bit here in Vegas. And I always love

47:11

asking guys how he's

47:13

pranked them. And I know he loves picking on the

47:15

young players I'm wondering if he's got you, if you've

47:18

got a good flower prank story for

47:20

us.

47:22

I I haven't gotten pranks by flower,

47:24

but See, I've heard

47:26

differently, actually. Wow.

47:30

Well, I heard that you Maybe you don't know it was

47:32

him, but I I heard that he got you in Montreal

47:35

last season. With,

47:37

like,

47:37

shaving cream towel.

47:39

He got me shaving cream towel. Yeah.

47:41

He didn't get me with that, actually. But

47:43

That wasn't that wasn't too bad. He got,

47:45

like, five guys that day with the shaving

47:48

cream towel. He

47:51

did get me there. I forgot about that, but

47:53

what exactly happened? So

47:56

all the towels are, like, folded up in our

47:58

shower and basically,

48:01

he opened a few of them up and then

48:03

shaving cream all in them in the light towel

48:05

so you can't really see it. You just

48:07

grab it and start drying yourself off,

48:09

but it's got shaving creaminess, so you get shaving

48:12

cream all over yourself. But I

48:14

think the best one I

48:17

I've seen them. I don't know for sure if this

48:19

was him, but I would assume

48:21

it was right after the trade deadline last year

48:23

where he came to our team. He be at

48:25

two Haines car with the packing peanuts.

48:27

Just filled it all the way to the top.

48:30

It's been one of our games, and I thought that was

48:32

a pretty good one. Yeah. That's

48:34

the one thing. Jonathan Marshall will say the

48:37

the the thing that makes it tough with flowers is that

48:39

he will deny it till he dies. Like,

48:41

no. Like, poker pays everything. Like

48:44

but the one the flower told me the shaving

48:46

cream one in Montréal, and I don't know if it was you or

48:48

Golagosky that got it first, but but

48:50

it either was you met or

48:52

or got goose that put the shaving cream on

48:54

it and the other one was laughing hysterically and

48:56

then they grabbed the towel and did the exact same

48:58

thing.

48:58

So Yeah. I I was

49:00

the one last thing and then did the same thing.

49:03

So

49:05

yeah. It it plunges in pretty good.

49:07

You don't know it, I guess. Yeah. Does

49:09

no one ever get flower back? That's

49:11

what I always wonder. I see all the pranks

49:13

for, you know, Marc Andre FLaire did

49:15

this. Marc Andre FLaire did that. Get them back.

49:17

Yeah. There was who's it on Ottawa?

49:19

Is it Nick Nick Nick Matt,

49:22

this year, like, flower during the morning's

49:24

gate, went into their changing room, and painted

49:27

his dress shoes like green and

49:28

red. So so

49:32

yeah. That's the thing to get flower back and

49:35

then he finds out a chew. He comes back

49:37

a chew again, twice as

49:38

hard. So that's that's the tough part.

49:40

So there's fear of of him you don't wanna

49:43

put the target on your back? For

49:45

me, a hundred percent.

49:49

Just keep doing what you're doing, and maybe he'll

49:51

he'll leave you alone. He's like, I can't I can't mess with

49:53

this guy. He's he's buzzer beat

49:55

doesn't. That isn't a hat trick because can't mess

49:57

with Yeah.

49:58

He's he's definitely not gonna cut into

49:59

your sticks or anything like that. Hey,

50:02

Matt. Just lastly, you know, obviously, last

50:04

a couple months ago, you signed the big seven year

50:07

forty nine million dollar extension. And I think

50:09

a lot of us thought that you were gonna go bridge

50:11

deal and the team would go bridge deal and

50:13

and but what what made you wanna

50:15

commit long term to the wild? And just how

50:17

excited are you about the future, not

50:19

just long term, but really the prospect

50:22

of this season where you guys just look right

50:23

now, you're playing your best hockey, the best time of

50:26

year. Yeah.

50:28

For me, was there wasn't really a

50:30

question when when it was offered that.

50:33

The long term deal is is pretty automatic

50:35

for me, I think. I absolutely

50:38

love in Minnesota to be honest with

50:40

him. I think just the

50:42

the management, the staff, everything that we have

50:44

gone. It's it's the best case

50:46

scenario, honestly, and and absolutely love

50:48

it. And they've been so good to me, along with

50:50

just my teammates in

50:52

in the locker room that we have. And kinda

50:55

what what created here with

50:57

with everyone else and kinda the

50:59

character that everyone's organization kinda

51:01

has. It's it was pretty easy

51:03

to to wanna be here for a long period of

51:05

time. And like I said, when when that was

51:08

on the

51:08

table, that was that was definitely what I want to

51:10

do. And, of course, you love the beat

51:12

writers. So

51:14

Yeah. Exactly. That

51:17

was the only thing he was wavering on. like,

51:19

I signed this deal. I gotta I gotta see Russo

51:22

every day or he's a kid. Seven

51:25

more years, Russo. Yeah.

51:28

Well, we we we Jesse that I can sympathize.

51:31

Bad. Thanks so much. Really

51:33

appreciate you coming on. Keep up the the

51:36

crazy run you're on and We'll get you out

51:38

next time too. So next time we book you

51:40

as a guest, you'll you'll have to do

51:42

the exact same thing so you come in red

51:43

hot. Thanks so much for doing this.

51:46

Alright. Perfect. Thanks, guys.

51:48

Thanks. Have a safe train ride. Yeah.

51:50

Have a good one. A

51:53

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53:49

Alright, boys. My favorite time of the show is

53:51

yours, rapid fire, and we've got five

53:53

topics. Russo, I'm looking at you.

53:56

While we're doing it, just look up the word rapid. You'll

53:58

know what you're supposed to do. Topic number

54:00

one, in a shocking turn of events Jordan

54:02

Bennington, got mad on the ice.

54:05

He was bumped by Ryan Hartman after a goal,

54:07

went after him, gave him a blocker to

54:09

the face. Mark Andre fleri comes to the

54:11

other end of the ice, wants to fight Alignments

54:14

say no, Bennington gets a two

54:16

game suspension and fans went home

54:18

saying we almost saw a goalie

54:20

fight. Jesse, you know, I'm starting with you on this.

54:23

How do you not let flirty fight him?

54:25

Come on. Jordan Bennington needs to

54:27

get in a fight and I wanna say he needs to get

54:29

his ass kicked, but maybe he'll win the fight, but

54:31

Jordan Biddington needs to get in the fight because he's been

54:33

asking for one for too long

54:36

blockering someone in the face while

54:38

they're celebrating a goal. I don't

54:40

know how that fight doesn't happen. They should've let flurry

54:42

do it. If there's a guy in the league that needs to do

54:44

it, it's flurry. Should've let it happen. I'm

54:46

so disappointed. I'm actually

54:48

glad that didn't. First of all, Bennington was

54:50

so unstable. I think he would've absolutely lead

54:52

to destroyed flower. I love flower,

54:54

but I don't see him as a fighter. And,

54:58

you know, like and and look,

55:00

he's Flower has said he's got into one

55:02

fight in his life and he broke his knuckle. And

55:04

the wild had bigger aspirations right now than the

55:06

Saint Louis Blues. I just think it would be a big mistake.

55:09

The one thing I'll say is Jordan Pennington's gotta

55:11

freak. They gotta get him some some

55:14

don't know what they've gotta do.

55:15

Ain't your management with

55:16

him? Yeah. I mean, don't wanna say therapy,

55:18

but they gotta figure this out because

55:21

he is so easy to play against

55:23

right now because he is so unraveled at

55:25

times. And the second after the after

55:27

he gave up a couple pulls back to back and he skated

55:30

a wild bed, she started screaming at them and all

55:32

that stuff, Brian Hartman said they knew

55:34

that they had him. And don't I

55:36

I cover Ryan Hartman on a daily basis.

55:38

He knew exactly what he was doing. That was

55:40

not an accident. He clipped him intentionally. And

55:43

he knew what the reaction was gonna be at

55:45

this guy. And that is that

55:47

is not on Ryan Harton. That's on Jordan Bington.

55:49

I'm making it extremely easy for opponents

55:51

because they see when he unravels.

55:54

By the way, if you haven't seen the mic'd up version

55:57

with Marco Dreyflier, begging the linesman to

55:59

let them go, be sure to go

56:01

watch. Judy, God. You just love you. Sorry.

56:03

Rapid fire topic number two. You know what? Jesse, you're

56:05

gonna get to start two topics in a row because it's another

56:07

goalie situation. Jack Campbell.

56:10

It's fair to say hasn't worked out in Edmonton

56:13

thus far year one of

56:15

his five year contract and

56:17

there is legit talk of a

56:19

possible buyout in the

56:21

off season. It might be tough move to

56:23

actually make a move as far as if they wanna try

56:25

to trade him because he's got a ten t

56:27

no trade clause. But wow.

56:30

I I don't know. There were even the people who

56:32

were the biggest critics of this

56:34

Siding, I don't think they would have thought after one year

56:36

we'd be talking buyout. Yeah.

56:38

It has not worked out just like every

56:40

goalie move the Oilers have made since

56:42

what Grant Fuhrer Bill

56:45

Rand Bill Randford maybe. Bill Randford?

56:47

It has been a very, very long

56:50

time since a goalie move has worked out for that team.

56:52

So I am shocked. That this one hasn't worked out.

56:54

They are so lucky that Stewart Skinner has

56:56

come out of nowhere, and I don't know if he's the goalie

56:58

to lead you on a deep playoff run, but he's certainly

57:01

done better than Jack Campbell. And he's he's

57:03

allowed that team to be in the playoff race.

57:05

So they are very fortunate for

57:07

Stuart Skinner coming out of nowhere.

57:09

I'll tell you, and it should be a cautionary tale to

57:12

the Minnesota wild guys because they have Philip Gustafson,

57:14

seeing agent as Jack Campbell,

57:17

Kurt Ovechkin, you know that right now the

57:19

way that Gustafsson is playing who has just been,

57:21

I mean, unbelievable this season.

57:23

Unbelievable right there with the top

57:26

goal is in the league. You know as

57:28

a restricted free agent, Curt Overheart, is gonna

57:30

be looking for the moon and so the wild better be

57:32

careful here because, you know, also you don't wanna go

57:34

too long. You know, somebody

57:36

that Jesse, I'm sure, is looking forward to watching

57:38

his pro as Jesper Wolf stat in the

57:40

NHL. He is their first ground pick

57:42

and the minors having a really good year

57:44

Looks like he's a couple years away, so you

57:46

can't go too long. But Gustafsson again

57:49

proved last night forty seven saves

57:51

unbelievable. SEASON AND

57:53

QUINCIDATELY SAME AGENT IS JACK HAMMER.

57:55

Reporter: Topic number three, Quinn

57:58

Hughes BECOMES THE FIRST DEFENCEMAN TO

58:00

RECORD CONSECUTIVE sixty assists

58:02

seasons since Paul 40

58:04

and Ray Borick did it back in nineteen

58:06

ninety three, nineteen ninety four,

58:09

also became the second gator in conduct

58:11

history to hit that sixty assists mark

58:14

in multiple seasons joining

58:16

Henrik Sadin. I mean, we've

58:18

We've shit on the conducts a lot this year.

58:20

This has been a bright spot for

58:22

them. He's just been incredible. Russo. Yeah.

58:25

And was looking at their stats yesterday and you

58:27

just look at guys like Elias Patterson and J.

58:29

T. Miller. We obviously know what you all invented

58:31

when used. Their offensive numbers

58:33

in Vancouver are in credible. They can't

58:35

defend and they can't stop the puck. So

58:38

that's I think we've diagnosed what

58:40

the issue is with adults. Quinn Hughes is

58:42

unbelievably good offensive defenseman.

58:45

He's only could continue to get better.

58:47

I think a lot is put on his plate

58:49

defensively on that team, and I think it's

58:51

incumbent on the executives there

58:53

in Vancouver to to fix the way they are

58:56

defensively to take some pressure off point in future

58:58

years. Yeah. I agree. I think

59:00

he can be a lot better defensively, but think

59:02

a lot of it, like when you're being asked to be

59:04

the driver of the offense and you're that

59:06

young and you're expected to be the defensive

59:09

anchor. It's gonna be tough. He I

59:11

got to watch him last night against the Golden Knights,

59:13

man. He's just so smooth back there. He just

59:16

It looks like he's floating on the ice, and

59:18

he be because he skates so well, it

59:20

allows him to he's not even worried about

59:22

getting caught by the

59:22

forecracker, and it allows him to see

59:24

those those stretch passes up the ice. They obviously

59:27

have some talented forwards that he can get the

59:29

puck to and that leads to a nervousness.

59:33

Two more guys. The league is changing Jersey

59:35

makers again. Fanatics

59:38

are gonna take over from Adidas

59:40

in the twenty twenty four season. Adidas

59:42

has been making them since twenty seventeen. Third

59:45

company to make NHL jerseys

59:47

since two thousand and five, and it's the first

59:49

time they are actually going to be doing it

59:51

for one of the major four leagues

59:55

in North America. I know Sean Gentile wrote a

59:57

piece about this on the athletic. Fans

59:59

are not happy about this

1:00:00

one. Jesse? Yeah, I mean,

1:00:03

I am not surprised. If you're as a

1:00:05

league, you've got a Jersey maker

1:00:07

that makes the good jerseys, Adidas.

1:00:09

They make the jerseys that are the ones the players wear.

1:00:11

And then you've got a company that makes the shitty jerseys.

1:00:14

That are a third the price, but

1:00:16

look a third the price. And again, this is

1:00:18

not against fanatics. They are being told

1:00:21

you are going to make the knock off jersey,

1:00:23

not the knock off, but the the non

1:00:25

gay born the the not the jerseys the players

1:00:27

wear, you're gonna make the cheap ones. So

1:00:30

for years, they've been making the cheap ones, and then you

1:00:32

tell fans, oh, that those cheap

1:00:34

ones you can wear, that company's making the good ones

1:00:36

now. Of course, they're gonna be upset.

1:00:38

We don't know if fanatics can make a high

1:00:41

quality Jersey. I'm sure they probably can,

1:00:43

but I totally understand the reaction from

1:00:46

fans when you tell them, all those bad jerseys

1:00:48

that cost third the price, they're gonna make the

1:00:50

good ones now. Totally normal

1:00:52

reaction exactly what you'd expect.

1:00:55

Yeah. I didn't know anything about this, by the way.

1:00:57

Obviously, as you could tell, I'm not somebody that goes

1:00:59

out by Jersey's on regular basis.

1:01:01

So I didn't know all the uproar that would

1:01:03

take place. The only thing I'll say is that, one,

1:01:05

we gotta assume that the quality is gonna improve.

1:01:07

Right. The other thing that the fans seem to be

1:01:11

up in arms about that I've seen all over Twitter

1:01:13

is that guess there's a tendency that you buy

1:01:15

fanatics jersey and it comes to you and the name

1:01:17

of the jersey is completely misspelled. Are

1:01:19

the numbers wrong or you got wrong number

1:01:21

here, but the right number on the back. That will

1:01:24

not happen. There will not be, you

1:01:26

know, like, jobs in Marsha's Road next year

1:01:28

is not gonna suddenly be skating with his name

1:01:30

spelled wrong and number eighteen on his back and

1:01:32

not you know what I mean? Like, it's first

1:01:34

of all, the the equipment trainers take

1:01:36

care of that type of stuff. You don't have

1:01:38

to worry about

1:01:39

that. Names will be spelled right and numbers will

1:01:41

be correct next season and beyond. And

1:01:44

501, Jesse, this one's just for you

1:01:46

because the Monday boys do the

1:01:48

Jack Adams award winner of

1:01:50

the week, the coach that, you know, deserves

1:01:53

the award, not for the entire season, or the

1:01:55

front runner of Power Rangers for that week.

1:01:57

And of course, you're a goalie guy. So they

1:01:59

wanna know your Vesta 40 winner

1:02:02

of the week. Take it away, mister goalie expert.

1:02:05

We always want stock bulk goalies. Everyday

1:02:08

I think Sarukin won it with one save

1:02:10

last night. Did he not? I mean, that Haddl

1:02:12

save leaves was

1:02:14

insane. Yeah. If

1:02:16

you wanna go for the whole week though, to be fair

1:02:19

to the rest of the league, Egorosher Starken, I

1:02:21

mean, Michael mentioned earlier that the Rangers

1:02:23

look like they're coming into their own, and it's everyone's

1:02:25

like, okay. These Tarasankos been

1:02:27

fitting in well, Kain, not quite as well, but

1:02:29

it's starting to look better. This is starting to

1:02:32

look like the team they thought could make a deep

1:02:34

run. And I think the biggest part of that is

1:02:36

Shostirkin has been solid all year,

1:02:38

but he is now starting to round into

1:02:40

that form than he was last year going

1:02:42

into the playoffs. The eastern conference,

1:02:45

it they are going to be a major problem

1:02:47

if egorchester can can

1:02:49

play this well in the playoffs. So I'm I'm gonna

1:02:51

even though Sorokin had the save of the week. I'm gonna

1:02:54

go Egorosher Starken for Vazna of the week.

1:02:56

He has been spectacular.

1:02:59

There you go. You had a lot of goalie talk today,

1:03:01

Jess. You gotta be happy.

1:03:02

Pumped. And

1:03:03

I'm disappointed. You know what I mean? Mark Andre,

1:03:05

flurry, Jesse's guy has won seven

1:03:07

straight games. What's he have

1:03:08

to do to get in the Bednar conversation with

1:03:10

you, Jesse? There's so many good goalies right now.

1:03:15

Jesse's the tough critic. Guys, thirty seconds

1:03:17

or less. What are we working on this week? Russo.

1:03:22

Working on a feature on Brock

1:03:25

Faber, who the Wilder gonna sign, the second

1:03:27

the Go for Season ends, hopefully, with a national

1:03:29

championship, working on that. And,

1:03:32

man, I I don't know if I should give this out,

1:03:34

but Sean Chantile and I are working

1:03:36

on a really, you know, comprehensive

1:03:39

story on the prospects of the

1:03:41

NHL returning to

1:03:42

Atlanta. And I guarantee it'll be a talk.

1:03:45

Alright. Nice. I see. I've

1:03:47

got Golden Knights coverage just

1:03:49

as usual. They've got some big games coming

1:03:51

up. They're going to Edmonton, and then they play the Oilers

1:03:53

back here. In Vegas. So two

1:03:56

two games, eight points on the line for two teams

1:03:58

that are right next to each other in the standings. And

1:04:00

a cool little piece on Teddy Blueger who they traded

1:04:02

for at the deadline who's not really

1:04:04

the biggest acquisition, but the

1:04:07

amount of time this guy starts

1:04:09

in his defensive zone is absolutely

1:04:11

aggiring. Like, I I'm looking at the numbers that you

1:04:13

you see what percentage of starts a guy gets

1:04:16

in each zone. This guy's not

1:04:18

allowed to play in the offensive zone.

1:04:20

And he really, like, has embraced that

1:04:22

role. So fun little story on Teddy Bluegreen

1:04:24

and how often he starts in his own

1:04:26

man.

1:04:27

Alright. We'll be sure to look for

1:04:29

those pieces. And before we

1:04:31

go, you can go read those pieces. I want to let

1:04:33

you know. Remember, you could subscribe to the athletic

1:04:35

NHL YouTube channel now, you could see our ugly

1:04:37

mugs when we interview people like Matt

1:04:40

Boldy's. If you go to youtube dot

1:04:42

com slash the athletic hockey

1:04:44

show and while you're there, other things can look at.

1:04:46

Mark Lasers, his take on the whole James

1:04:48

River follow with Ian and

1:04:50

Julian, you can hear Katie Stragg talk about the

1:04:52

allegations of hazing and abuse with Harvard's

1:04:55

women's hockey team with Craig and Sean.

1:04:57

Plenty of great hockey content, so be sure to

1:05:00

check that out. You have thought hockey Show returns

1:05:02

Thursday with Ian Mendez and

1:05:04

down goes brown. I wanna thank

1:05:06

Matt Boldy's for coming on the show as

1:05:08

well for Russo. Jesse, I'm Rob We're

1:05:10

off next week, so we'll see you in two weeks

1:05:12

April the fourth.