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Cahaba is a town in the center of
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the state of Alabama. Today, it's
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a quiet, serene place. But
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in Cahaba's heyday, it had
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three distinct eras. In
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the early 1820s, it became the first
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state capital of Alabama, very Wild West-like,
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but it was a place with promise
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in the middle of wilderness. In
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the 1850s, it caught a second wind. It
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was one of the wealthiest cities in the
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state and one of the wealthiest counties in
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the country. After the Civil War,
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in the late 1860s, it
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was a hub for the formerly enslaved, a place
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where black people could finally enjoy the fruits
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of their labor. But
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today, Cahaba is completely
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deserted, and it's been that way for a
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while. Most towns go
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undeveloped and they destroy what was there before.
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Here are the footprints of all those buildings and
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all those lives are still there. This
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is Linda Derry. She's the site director
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at the Old Cahaba Archaeological Park. After
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almost 40 years of working there, Linda still
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has a reverence for the scenery that Old
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Cahaba has to offer. The
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southern landscape, especially in Alabama, we have this
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sort of relic. You
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know, if you look
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closely, you can see pieces of the
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past, like runes of old tenant
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farmer's shocks or, oh
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my gosh, here every spring, the
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roses and the daffodils that these
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people brought from the East Coast
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here to make their yards
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beautiful, they bloom again. These
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things are planted originally by people that are
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long dead by every spring. We
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see, it gives me chills just thinking about it.
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So if you just open your eyes to it, you
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can hear those dead people talking to you
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through these messages embedded in
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the landscape. My
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name is Baudelaire and this is Atlas
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Obscura, a celebration of the world's strange,
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incredible and wondrous places. Today, we go
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to Cahaba, Alabama, to the Old Cahaba
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Archaeological Park. Park to visit
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Alabama's most famous ghost town and we
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hear how it was once the center
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Over the past hundred years, Cahaba has
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become a place shrouded in myth. There's
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a lot of myths about this
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place that are completely wrong. Things
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they read in their fourth grade textbook when
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they're little that you know
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you just wonder how they got there. One
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of those myths is how the town got its name. starts
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with the state of Alabama's first governor,
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William Bibb. Here's
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how it goes. Governor
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Bibb came to Cahaba to give us
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the place for our capital, and there
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were Native Americans there, and they
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were going, Cahaba, Cahaba, Cahaba, which
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means water above, and they were trying to
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warn him away. It's just
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silly. None of that had ever happened. Native people
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had lived here for like 9,000 years. It was
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a good place for them to live. In
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fact, Cahaba doesn't mean water above. Cahaba
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means cane brick, a tall grass that's a
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relative of bamboo. The town of
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Cahaba was actually named after the Cahaba River,
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and at the time, the river was lined
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with cane brick. Today, there isn't
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any cane brick in Cahaba. There's
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just ruins of its heyday. You'll
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see columns from the
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mansion's gone, but the column in the basement is
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still there. You'll see ruins
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of old warehouses, and
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the cemeteries are incredible because you can read
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the inscriptions and learn what they wanted you to know
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about their loved ones. The
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reason Cahaba was chosen as the capital was
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because Governor Bibb had been given a free
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square mile of land there before any town
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infrastructure was built. He figured
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if it were the capital, then the plots of
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land he would sell from that square mile would
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increase drastically in value, and it worked.
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The money from the sale of those plots
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of land then became the foundation for the
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state of Alabama's treasury. At
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that time, folks were moving west to this
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brand new state called Alabama, and what better
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place to live than its capital? Like
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any big city, there was a lot of action. If
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you came in 1820, there
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would be a brick state house, then there'd
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be a bunch of log cabins. It was very
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much, I'd say, more like gun smoke, western,
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than like Gone with the Wind. In
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fact, the editors said, women
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and children should stay home at night because of
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all the gunplay in the streets. It
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was really rough and tumble. But
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Cahaba wouldn't be the capital for very long,
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and this leads to another myth. This
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one goes that the state capital was only moved because
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of a massive flood that supposedly
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hit Caba in 1825. Well when
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you start doing the research
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1825 was a drought year. There
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was no flood. Why the myths?
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Like what what what purpose do
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they serve rather than the truth I guess?
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Well you know Christians
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love a big flood story don't they? So
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it's something they can relate
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to. I should mention that
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Alabama has moved its capital four times
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before it landed on its current capital
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Montgomery but the real story behind this
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first move was all about politics.
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See people in North Alabama resented that Governor
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Bibb made Caba the capital and when Bibb
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died there was no one else around to
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stick up for Caba. So the people took
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a vote in 1825 and it was settled.
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The capital would move. They
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didn't feel that being a capital was
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enough incentive to make a town grow.
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So it had only been from 1819 to 1825. It's
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not very much time and
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in the beginning the steamboats weren't
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even running up the river. So that's
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the reason they gave for moving but
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ha ha the town
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went on and became one of the
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wealthiest towns. During
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the mid-1800s an area of Central
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Alabama was one of the wealthiest and
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most politically powerful regions in the United
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States. This region was called the Black
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Belt named for the fertile black soil
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that ran through it and Caba
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happened to be situated right smack in
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the middle of the Black Belt. Caba
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was now in its second phase. No
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more log cabins or old western-style living.
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At this point in 1860
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Caba had the fourth highest per capita wealth
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in the entire country. Right
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before the Civil War. So
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that was its peak. So
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there were probably over
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3,000 people living here at that time. And 64% of
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that population was African-American. for
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huge mansions and
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finds stores and churches and schools
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and um so
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it would have been quite something but
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it also would depend who you were like
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vine street was the main downtown street so
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if you were a white planner you would
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know that quite well but the
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next street over was um were
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all the brackenest
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shops and the slave exchange and
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so if you were enslaved person that was the
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center of your world but
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um so you would get a very different
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view of it but cahaba was always
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majority black but
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then in 1861 the civil war
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began the civil
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war was a turning point in cahaba's history for
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a few reasons for the first reason
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we have to go back to a few years
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before the war started in 1858 during
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cahaba's days of bringing in money from the sale
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of cotton the town was building
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a railroad makes sense right cotton is
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king so let's get a railroad stop
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well during the war the confederacy had
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to focus on wartime production and nearby
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selma was making cannons and other weapons
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that were more of an immediate need
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so the confederate army tore up the
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entire railroad that was almost done in
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cahaba to finish a railroad line in
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and out of selma a
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railroad warehouse in cahaba had just finished
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and it was turned into a prison
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for captured union soldiers another
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way the war changed cahaba was in the
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lives lost many
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of the white men didn't come back from the
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war the majority of them died defending
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richman in virginia
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by the time the war was over old
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cahaba looked completely different this town that used
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to be bustling from all this money from
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the sale of cotton and enslaved people had
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lost its free workforce cahaba
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was left as a remnant of the old south
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of the old plantation south the
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delma had built an industry
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during the war to build armament
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for the confederates So
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they had industry and they had
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immigrants. And so they were new
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South, probably old South. After
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the Civil War came Reconstruction, an
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era of Black self-determination as well
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as political and economic success. With
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Reconstruction came a new era for
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Cahaba, its third phase, one
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where the Black residents would be able to
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enjoy the town's success. It was their community
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and they built their own schools and their
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own churches. Cahaba was now a
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haven for the newly free Black folks. From
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Selma, the new strip is called
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Cahaba the NECA of the Radical
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Republican Party. And that wasn't met
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as a compliment. Because
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all these newly emancipated people voted
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Republican because Swinkin was Republican.
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Self-determination led to some pretty impressive stories from the
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Black population of Cahaba. Stories like
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Sarah Duncan. Sarah Duncan was an
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activist born in post-war Cahaba that would tour
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the South and speak about not just the
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rights of Black people, but the rights of
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women. She's what they call
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the race woman. She's the uplifting race. She
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said women were the last creation of God
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and therefore the most perfect. Another
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story is that of Jeremiah Harrelson, a
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self-educated formerly enslaved man from Georgia that
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went on to represent Cahaba and the
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Alabama House of Representatives, the Alabama Senate
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and the U.S. House of Representatives. He
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was also considered one of the great orators of his
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time. Frederick Douglass heard Harrelson
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speak in 1872 and called him
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one of the most amusing, ready,
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witted and gifted debaters. And
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there was also the story of Ezekiel Arthur. Born
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into slavery in Arkansas, after emancipation,
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Ezekiel traveled state to state to find
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his sister and mother. After
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reuniting with them, he moved to Cahaba. There
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he became a successful farmer and landowner,
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growing corn, cotton and sugar cane that
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he sold within Cahaba and to cafes
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in New York. by towns. But
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as Reconstruction came to an end, so did
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Cahaba's time as a black haven. With no
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federal troops protecting the rights of black people
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in the South, racist groups were
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free to terrorize places like Cahaba. So
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it then became, yeah, dangerous
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for people that were outspoken. Most of
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the tenant farmers disappeared. You know, they
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went to Detroit or Chicago or someplace.
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At that point, Cahaba's desertion began. First,
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it was the people, then
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it was the buildings. You see, during
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the Civil War, nearby Selma was damaged
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pretty badly. And the people
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of Selma decided it'd be cheaper to
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salvage Cahaba's building materials rather than bringing
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in brand new materials. And
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there's articles in Selma's paper saying, here
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comes another frame of the house from Cahaba.
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If they continue, Cahaba will be out of business
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shortly. And then a decade or more later, they
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come and take down the brooks and reuse the
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brooks. By the
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1930s, not much was left of Cahaba.
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The families had been long gone. And
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now the only folks living there were
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fishermen and hunters. Almost
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50 years later, Cahaba got one more chance
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at a new life. The state
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of Alabama decided to invest money to
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turn its first capital into a historic
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park. Almost every
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family from Cahaba's early days was gone. Even
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the fishermen and hunters had barely stuck around.
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But there was still a descendant from Cahaba's
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days as a black haven. There
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was a woman who married the child of Ezekiel
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Arthur who was enslaved. So
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he was just one generation away
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from enslavement. And she lived here
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until she passed away about And
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that kind of highlights why a place like Cahaba
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is so special. The history is so far away,
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but at the same time, so
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close. Linda tells me roughly 25,000
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people each year come to
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old Cahaba archaeological park to see
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and feel the history firsthand. Most
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towns go undeveloped and they destroy what was there
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before. Here, the footprints of
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all those buildings and all those
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lives are still there. So
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I think to understand
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who we are in the South now, we have
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to see where we came from. And
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all the parts are here. And
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if they were excavated and studied, we
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could really see how it all goes together,
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because all of our histories are tied together. It's
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like there's so many secrets
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left untold. Old
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Cahaba Archaeological Park is open Thursday through Monday,
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10 a.m. to 5 p.m. There's
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options to bike around Cahaba or take a
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canoe down the Cahaba River. This
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podcast is a co-production of Atlas Obscura
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and Stitcher Studios. Our
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production team includes Johanna Mayer
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Dylan Therese Doug Baldinger Chris
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Naka Camille Stanley Manolo Morales
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Gabby Gladney Our technical director
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is Casey Holford. This episode
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was mixed by Luz Fleming.
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Our theme and end credit music is by Sam Tindall. If
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you want to learn more, be sure to
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