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I would not bow to my mother. I

1:27

think the typical tool set is all there. But

1:30

that tool set, it fits really well

1:32

for what Kevin O'Connell does in his

1:34

offensive philosophy. Which is to

1:36

attack the intermediate sector between the

1:38

hashes in order to open up

1:41

the spacing for the one-on-one downfield

1:43

shots. McCarthy, along with Drake

1:45

Mayer, the two best in this

1:47

class, at those anticipatory tight window

1:49

throws over the middle, muscling

1:52

those in there. I

1:54

like the athleticism with J.J. McCarthy.

1:57

You saw that at the combine. Six passes, three.

2:00

Long time you regardless of position

2:02

at seventy pounds heavier than his

2:04

Michigan bio which also I check

2:06

the box of the size concerns

2:08

that that some it had with

2:10

him and then also the arm

2:12

strength is extremely apparent on his

2:14

tape and he put some data

2:16

to that at the Nfl Combine

2:18

as well with a sixty one

2:21

mph max velocity throw which was

2:23

one mph beneath the record where

2:25

John Milton match odd Josh Allen

2:27

what adam it at sixty two

2:29

of the. Decision that I really

2:31

like about the projection to the next

2:33

level or beyond Some of those things

2:36

is the athleticism and the arm strength

2:38

work in conjunction with one another. There

2:40

are so many quarterbacks easy come in

2:42

and league every single year were you

2:45

have a strong arm and you are

2:47

athletic. But those things categorically do not

2:49

work together with one another on the

2:52

field. In conjunction with Mccarthy, they absolutely

2:54

do with their they worked together in

2:56

concert when he is moving around or

2:58

and improvising. He always. He takes his

3:01

mechanics with him on the move use

3:03

his that the downfield. The upper body

3:05

is always cock to throw and he

3:07

keeps that.lower body platform under him as

3:09

he is maneuvering. Said that if he

3:11

sees that a look that he lights,

3:14

he's able to get that throw off

3:16

right away with the correct mechanics. so

3:18

the accuracy plays up something you can

3:20

see in the numbers it was in

3:22

the aggregate last year seventy two percent

3:24

and change and seventy one percent in

3:27

change while scrambling which is kind of

3:29

unheard of, but I think he's a

3:31

really, really good fit for what kaos.

3:33

He dies offensively. Yeah

3:35

and as you point now, I

3:37

really like the way the you.

3:41

Say. Okay, athleticism and that's

3:43

great. And. Arm.

3:46

Frank. that's great. But.

3:48

Do. They. You

3:51

traits, right? We start talking the

3:53

basic grasp analysis terms. You've got

3:55

traits and you've got skills, skills

3:58

on lock traits. If. Crates

4:00

or not aligned with skills Their Wasted

4:02

right, Brave and Allen If traits are

4:04

not align with kills their wasted. And

4:07

you're right that one of

4:09

the things that Jt Mccarthy

4:11

got a wizard like a

4:13

the Williams. What he does

4:15

make creative outside of structure

4:17

plays that rely on arm

4:19

talent, arm strength, And.

4:22

Creativity. I just coming up. Problem solving

4:24

really. Is that really what we're talking

4:26

about? I don't mind that he wasn't

4:28

the centerpiece of the offense in Michigan

4:30

successful program. Why would? it ain't broke.

4:33

Don't fix it. I kind of look

4:35

at him like Ben Roethlisberger with the

4:37

Steelers his rookie year or Dak Prescott

4:39

with the Cowboys are of his rookie

4:41

year. Don't hold against him, The both

4:44

acid do a lot but talk about

4:46

how he did on what he was.

4:48

Acid You and I would you Do

4:50

you? You will. Probably see a learning

4:52

curve. wraps that's why you might like Michael

4:54

Panics. I mean, you might like. We.

4:57

Can argue about the range of our comes from Michael panics,

4:59

We. Can talk about as you can be the

5:01

higher or lower end if you're on the higher

5:04

and side of that as yeah the like that

5:06

wraps, reps, wraps, scraps, And that

5:08

helps map out your brain in

5:10

Fl, especially when everything gets sped

5:12

up. But I think you know

5:14

Mccarthy to Mccarthy the Minnesota. If

5:16

it doesn't happen, it probably will

5:18

be because they get Drake May

5:20

that would you be disappointed? It.

5:22

Is instead it's a trade up to three for Drake. May. Only

5:26

and that's contextually depend on what the brave

5:28

foreigners to Georgia and I would even say

5:31

that with regards to Mccarthy might. My only

5:33

concern is that the by gangs like you

5:35

know it could you hear the people be

5:37

like oh it fits your guy you have

5:40

to give up whatever it takes which was

5:42

the exact same thinking that led the Carolina

5:44

Panthers. Do I mortgage their entire future and

5:46

set themselves back a decade and the bright

5:49

young for it? I n away their I

5:51

see this is I do not see a

5:53

big enough A and in you know I'm.

5:56

i'm a good yeah cardi guys but i do

5:58

not see a big enough qualitative this between

6:01

QB three and QB four

6:03

and my QB three is McCarthy. My QB

6:05

four is Drake may to give

6:08

up to justify giving up your 20,

6:11

25 round one pick for the Vikings. Right

6:13

now you look at the sports box there,

6:15

uh, when total, you know, like for, for

6:17

next year, I think they're tied with several

6:19

other teams for the six lowest I

6:22

E a projected top 10 pick potentially.

6:25

That's a potential enormous monster

6:27

asset. I don't

6:29

want to just be tossing willy nilly

6:31

enormous monster assets into trades. Again, that

6:33

harkens back to what Carolina did last

6:36

off season for me. I've

6:39

wait on the QB four, uh, Josh

6:41

Allen would that what Buffalo did in

6:43

that draft would be a great example

6:46

of having discretion and letting it come to

6:48

you. But you, of course

6:50

you have to with Quasi right now,

6:52

you're both playing the, the

6:55

poker game with 31 other players trying

6:57

to suss out what their intentions are.

6:59

And of course you can't get

7:01

too cute. But if you knew that, you know, obviously

7:03

the quarterbacks are going to go one, two, three. But

7:07

if you knew that Arizona and the charters were

7:09

going to stick and pick the real

7:11

question would become, what are the giants going to

7:13

do? If you called

7:15

the giants bluff correctly, that is what

7:18

would allow you to keep your both

7:20

the 20, 25 round one. And

7:24

the number 23 overall pick in that,

7:26

like I'm totally happy to take the

7:29

fourth quarterback, whoever that that is. But

7:31

Drake made, you know, to your point, he's a very

7:34

good fit for the Vikings offense as well for, for

7:36

some of those same reasons, as far as

7:39

attacking the middle of the field, love

7:41

the arm strength. The

7:43

people that love Drake may, I see the exact same

7:45

thing. He's got an absolutely

7:48

awesome arm and, and those NFL concepts over

7:50

the middle of the anticipatory throws. Everything like

7:52

that. You see those all over his film.

7:55

He has a lot of natural playmaking flair. Cool

8:00

things about him. I I like the

8:02

degrees in shock got any gets it

8:04

and he does that the backwards bicycle

8:07

sat on it as opposed to squaring

8:09

cause he gets it's a little bit

8:11

longer to see that the initial our

8:13

first you beads of of the routes

8:16

on both sides of the field. I

8:18

also liked the way that that he

8:20

dies, the pocket manipulation in the spacing

8:22

in north those beats after the snap.

8:25

To. Allow himself to have a runway

8:27

in order to step into the throat

8:29

full leads extend our. it is in

8:31

the throes that the only thing that

8:33

concerns me about what's that to think

8:35

the the obvious whenever I'm brings up

8:38

as you see those occasional wonky decisions

8:40

to when I always think of always

8:42

we're scrambling around against Clemson around the

8:44

goal line and I just threw a

8:46

right to align. but that comes a

8:48

linebacker was wearing a different colored jersey.

8:50

There was no right North Carolina Gov.

8:52

You can bring up several examples of

8:55

this. On it but for but

8:57

that's not been that the biggest public I

8:59

feel like that is. Was I

9:01

correct double the one? where are my

9:04

a little bit more concerned and it's

9:06

just because a my experience doing this

9:08

I there's a commonality between. Quarterback.

9:11

Collegiate quarterbacks where their games played down

9:13

at the next level if they have

9:15

this trait. And it's. The

9:18

thing of struggling under pressure.

9:20

And. And I know that people who love

9:22

drag may have given him that contextual benefit

9:25

of the doubt. I saw it. You know

9:27

I I will get into as much as

9:29

that's what I noticed on his film. Know

9:31

once again in Those Beats Activists Now I

9:34

love the way that he manages the pocket

9:36

have zero problems with that. What I noticed

9:38

wise, not right before he was about to

9:40

get smokes, but like in in a few

9:43

beats before it would when he starts to

9:45

realize like oh, the enemy is about to

9:47

be at the gate, like that the market

9:49

is about to begin collapsing. I

9:51

noticed this propensity of him. To.

9:54

Bullets hit fast forward on his

9:56

decision making process or he saw

9:58

himself. As. a pen panic, panic,

10:00

Drake alert alert, you have to make a decision

10:02

like find someone go go go. And then also

10:06

by extension, the mechanics get thrown into

10:08

this fast forward thing where all of

10:10

a sudden he is just like,

10:13

you know, it's like, okay, I have

10:15

to go somewhere and then it and

10:17

then he's just throwing it sometimes askewing

10:19

the lower body totally. And sometimes it's

10:22

doing those upper body mechanics, where in

10:24

these situations where you would have a

10:27

beat or so to square your

10:29

body, and then potentially even

10:31

do at least a modified step

10:33

into the throw. That's something

10:36

where it's one of those bullet flying

10:38

things that I found over the past

10:40

567 years doing these draft rankings. It's

10:43

harder for guys like that to struggle with

10:45

that in college for that thing to just

10:48

be totally coached away at the next level.

10:50

But certainly those are the two things you're

10:52

going to work on with Drake, Mike. Yeah,

10:55

I like again, Thor, that in

10:57

the end, what you're isolating here,

11:00

especially because we're talking about quarterbacks

11:02

is the psychological, emotional, even

11:05

spiritual side of the position. Because why

11:07

is he why does his mechanics get

11:10

sped up? Why is his thinking sped

11:12

up? Because the state,

11:14

he said panic, and he's in

11:16

an altered emotional state. And

11:19

that, and then you get

11:21

into the feedback loop of confidence. Because, you know, we

11:23

could talk about Drake May, he's picked

11:26

at number three to the Patriots, and Drake

11:28

made these numbers, either the Vikings took could

11:30

have totally different careers, yes, completely different careers,

11:32

like one's a bust and one's a hit.

11:35

And that's because of that element of vision. And I

11:37

love that you can talk about traits, we talk about

11:39

production, we talk about a model, we plug all these

11:41

things in, or you say like, what are the five

11:43

most determinative stats for position. But

11:45

for quarterback, especially, and Matt

11:47

Waldman, I talked about this last week, or

11:50

two weeks ago, you're solving

11:52

for x, and x is almost like

11:54

you're putting on the helmet and you're,

11:56

you're inside of their brain and their

11:58

body, you're not actually driving. But

12:00

you're you're figuring out well, how's their

12:03

processing of visual information turning into this

12:05

decision and and Observing

12:07

them over many reps you're saying okay now I

12:09

can put together Because Waldman talked about Kenny pick

12:11

it as a stealers fan is painful the Kenny

12:14

pick it like three and a half quarters was

12:16

Alright, and then fourth quarter a second fourth quarter

12:18

roll and you see in

12:20

the NFL when the screws get tighter

12:22

So you're asking what does this guy do when the screws

12:24

get tighter? There's a lot of different ways the screws can

12:27

get tighter Because then it's all the screws

12:29

are tight all the time They're

12:31

never loose. There's never I mean preseason

12:33

or like week 18 or

12:35

something They're always tight and

12:37

you wonder about that. I like how you isolated

12:39

that You

12:42

said something about doing this for five six seven years So let's talk about

12:44

some broad questions and then we'll get back to the 2024 class You've

12:47

been doing this for a while now Thor And

12:50

again, I always like to say I don't want to embarrass you

12:52

I don't want to make you blush, but I know the you

12:54

ranked the Oh The undrafted free

12:56

agent classes and you're the only other person I know that

12:58

ever did it and I knew you're sick

13:00

Oh like I was like when I had time to be

13:02

back in the day, but you've been doing this for

13:05

a while now What is something you

13:07

talked to you touched on something with? Quarterbacks

13:10

and understanding pressure and how that

13:12

can give you a better idea

13:14

of predicting at least the range of outcomes for

13:16

their career What's something else you've

13:18

learned? What's what's something else that you know that you

13:20

like if you went back to you? The

13:23

first year you were doing it you'd say hey I

13:25

know you think this right now, but you're gonna see

13:27

by doing this long enough that this is

13:29

actually true Yeah, I

13:31

would say broadly like when I the first

13:33

couple years I did it for NBC and

13:36

I had the big board I Have

13:39

both in advantage, but it was also

13:41

kind of a disadvantage at first where

13:45

Coming the draft work a lot of

13:47

guys that do it. They either do

13:49

you know, it's like NFL They'll do

13:51

NFL some NFL stuff during the fall

13:53

some of these guys that do Draft

13:55

work and stuff like that and then

13:57

they'll they're basing their evaluations off of

14:00

of caught ups and work in

14:02

the spring. Whereas I covered

14:04

college football year round and

14:06

have now for over a

14:08

decade. And then after

14:10

the national title game, that's when I

14:13

dive deeper into the individual prospects

14:15

and watch the caught ups and

14:17

look deeper into the analytical profiles

14:19

and then start comparing one

14:21

guy to the next guy and then putting them into

14:24

tiers and then snacking the positions and then eventually getting

14:26

to the 500 board. And one

14:28

thing I noticed in the first couple of years, and you don't

14:31

really, it

14:33

doesn't become apparent to you until a couple

14:35

of years have gone by and the

14:37

failures just stick out to you. But

14:41

it was the guys who

14:43

were succeeding in college at

14:46

a high degree, it was

14:48

carrying too much of the day in

14:50

my evaluation. And I don't

14:52

think I was putting enough weight

14:54

into traits. I

14:57

would say, like the

15:00

on field stuff, I

15:03

was prioritizing that more and what I had

15:05

seen over the years and then the

15:07

caught ups as well. And not

15:10

that I've gone completely the other way,

15:12

but what I have labored to try

15:14

to do is get into the data

15:17

on the athletic

15:19

profiles of what works and what does

15:21

not at various positions in the NFL

15:24

and try to at least imbue my

15:27

final evaluations with

15:30

more of that. And then also digging

15:32

some of these guys who were really

15:34

good college players, but who have profiles

15:37

that fit athletically and body

15:39

type and

15:42

even play style type of

15:44

guys that we have seen traditionally failing the

15:46

NFL. They're just

15:48

data points that you have to

15:50

consider. And so I

15:52

try to bring in all the contacts that

15:55

I have from college, which is super

15:57

helpful. Like, even watching. That

16:00

that caught absurd. Super helpful. A guy like

16:02

I remember I I I several years ago

16:04

like watching cut like I I have an

16:07

idea of like with the games were a

16:09

guy was injured and I can avoid those

16:11

and you know different self I doubt and

16:13

sometimes it you know you can get into

16:16

a trap if you don't know that context

16:18

where it your pics are. Wrong.

16:20

So you know swath of the season were

16:23

a kid was cutting out and enjoy. Frank

16:25

Ring know his last year was playing through

16:27

a high ankle sprain against the heart of

16:29

Arkansas Schedule any look terrible for a D

16:31

three four games bite. I've obviously Frank right

16:33

now is very good player when he was

16:35

at full strength and that been all over

16:37

the years. Numerous examples of that but that's

16:40

that's one thing I've tried to do better

16:42

at is is just considering more data and

16:44

realizing that there is a place for. Be.

16:46

Underwear, Olympics or at least that the date of

16:49

union from that and the pro days and stuff,

16:51

I doubt. Yeah, that's one

16:53

of those things that I river

16:55

was first was ah, on the

16:57

track seen any started to learn

16:59

about these things right? like hand

17:01

side started a quarterback on her

17:03

innocence hands or I. Thirty four

17:05

inch arms or eighty. Plus.

17:07

Inch wingspan for going to play tackle

17:10

and so on and it's felt relief

17:12

rigid. but it's actually I think based

17:14

on. Years. And years, what

17:16

works and what doesn't And it's actually

17:18

knowledge gained by experience. Not to some

17:20

cocoon Nfl. Another, the Nfl says it's

17:22

sometimes too rigid and too slow to

17:25

change and adjust actually think and high

17:27

especially to do with or we're dealing

17:29

more when you're tracking this year after

17:31

year and you see what kind of

17:33

player succeed or even just weird certain

17:35

plants. One of my most fun games

17:37

to play. Thorns like were with this

17:39

guy. Got drafted ten years ago. or

17:41

twenty got it. right? on that

17:43

and against the game changes significantly

17:45

enough the seen a braille and

17:48

allen he will he could play

17:50

that game and a do i

17:52

only five years ago yeah absolutely

17:54

absolutely so and and trades and

17:56

athletic profiles of he changes by

17:58

position some positions maybe are easier

18:00

to find the skeleton keys than others.

18:03

I think even with wide

18:05

receiver, and we'll talk about this here, amazing

18:07

wide receiver class, the NFL has started to catch

18:09

on to segmenting out

18:12

roles. So the WR position really

18:14

is three positions, if not

18:16

more on the field. And

18:18

it's the classic, don't tell me what he can't do, tell

18:21

me what he can, and put

18:23

him in a place where he's gonna be asked to

18:25

do those things. And just to bring it back to

18:27

this year's class. And I wanna

18:29

get your thought on this, because I mean, I

18:32

wanna like Blake Corum, you know? And

18:34

I think it's hard-bought, and it's for fantasy football, you

18:37

know, cause we'll switch back to fantasy football mode, fantasy

18:39

process, great fantasy football, it's a tremendous people over there

18:41

too. We're

18:43

gonna have to go back to fantasy football mode, and hey, give

18:45

him hard-bought draft, and he might have three or

18:47

4,000 yard seasons, you know? But

18:51

when I watch Blake Corum, I

18:53

can't help get that nagging feeling that backs

18:55

like him blend in in the NFL. They

18:57

just tend to blend in. It's

18:59

not that the stats can't come from fantasy

19:01

football in the right situation, but generally they

19:03

get overtaken by players who have more physical

19:05

talent to offer, or just are better at,

19:07

again, running back by committee, 20 years ago

19:09

was heresy to say that running back by

19:11

committee was gonna take over the NFL, and

19:13

now it has. So there

19:16

might be three guys on the roster that can do

19:18

each part of the game better than you, even though

19:20

you're very good in all the aspects of the game.

19:22

But I wanna go back and touch on this filtering

19:24

out in your games. So warn

19:26

the people out there, who are

19:28

some players that you could get

19:30

thrown off the trail on

19:33

because they were playing hurt in 2023, or

19:36

because there are certain parts that just the quarterback

19:38

was hurt or whatever. If you have the right

19:40

context, you know to ignore it, but when you

19:42

look out there, some people aren't ignoring it. I

19:49

know, I wanna say maybe you mentioned Jaylen McMillan

19:51

as a player that you

19:53

absolutely- Oh, yes. In your open-

19:56

Yeah, yeah. Jaylen

19:58

McMillan, yes, thank you. Jaylen McMillan

20:00

is a great example of this. I

20:03

think, and I get into this

20:05

in my write up with the receivers, but

20:08

the situation with him and Jaylen

20:11

Polk, it reminds me a lot

20:13

from last process of with the

20:15

Tennessee receivers, Cedric Tillman

20:17

and Jaylen Hyatt, I

20:21

spent last spring months arguing against

20:24

the Jaylen Hyatt truthers that were

20:26

arguing until they were

20:28

blue in the face that Jaylen Hyatt was a first

20:30

round pick. I was like, no, he absolutely is not.

20:33

And my argument was that in fact, a

20:36

guy that on the same team that was

20:38

viewed as this mid round afterthought, Cedric Tillman

20:40

was the better player and the better prospect. And

20:43

of course they ended up going back to back

20:45

pecs and they had about the same kind of

20:48

rookie seasons and we'll end up seeing how

20:50

their careers go. But the

20:52

reason that it was viewed that way

20:54

during the draft process was merely just

20:57

because Cedric Tillman had gotten injured his

20:59

last season which opened up the opportunity

21:01

for Hyatt to break out against

21:05

bad competition. It just so happened

21:07

that when Tillman was out, Hyatt

21:09

got to run by a bunch of, you know,

21:11

it was like Akron. And then he played Alabama

21:13

in that game. Nick

21:16

Saban in one of his more regrettable

21:18

career decisions decided to put DeMarco Hellams

21:20

in the slot against Jaylen Hyatt. And

21:22

so Jaylen Hyatt had free releases to

21:25

run by this guy like a four,

21:27

six, five with

21:29

the Washington kids. It's

21:31

sort of the same deal. You

21:33

go back to 2022 when O'Doon's

21:35

Day, McMillan and Polk were all

21:38

healthy on the same field for

21:40

that team. McMillan and O'Doon's

21:42

Day were almost indistinguishable as

21:44

the wide receiver one on that

21:46

team. Now, of course, O'Doon's Day

21:48

was more talented but I'm

21:51

talking in terms of the usage. And

21:53

then this season, Polk

21:55

did not take off and become like

21:57

the guy that some people...

22:00

I even saw him from a very

22:02

– I don't want to make – Peter Schrager. Well,

22:05

okay. You did it. Well, it's okay.

22:07

Well, because we know at this time of

22:09

year, Thor, not to interrupt you, we

22:12

know at this time of year – look, again,

22:15

I was deep, deep in the draft scene from

22:17

2007 to 2012. I

22:20

know a little company covered it for team

22:47

– when someone puts someone in a

22:49

first round that the consensus draft projection

22:51

say he doesn't belong there, that

22:53

can be meaningful when it's someone like Peter Schrager.

22:57

He would not – he's not

22:59

trying to get clicks or something like

23:01

that anyway. But yeah,

23:03

and the other thing I want to say before

23:05

I hand it back to you is I just

23:07

saw McMillan visited Cincinnati, which is like, oh, that's

23:09

– that makes a

23:11

lot – that – I would applaud that

23:13

pick on both sides. I

23:16

would like to – and I – you

23:18

know, at least if McMillan is picked like

23:20

he has been discussed this draft process, he

23:22

is absolutely going to be a big-time discount

23:24

on draft A. So yeah,

23:27

I will be applauding whoever takes him, assuming that

23:29

is the case. But you go –

23:31

so last season, McMillan gets hurt, and

23:34

it ends up being – I think

23:36

it was eight games where he

23:39

either missed the full game or the vast

23:41

majority of it. He tried

23:43

to come back for two games

23:46

in October, Stanford and Oregon, and

23:48

had to immediately leave because McMillan

23:50

was trying to gut through this

23:52

injury that he had, this

23:55

knee injury before he was 100 percent,

23:58

but he couldn't – cut on it.

24:00

So like they had to yank them out

24:03

right away. But in four of the four

24:05

of the first five games where McMillan

24:08

was out, that's where Polk exploded.

24:10

He goes over 100 yards. And so that's

24:13

when it was like, oh, Polk comes onto the scene,

24:15

whatever. In at the end of

24:17

the season, I thought it was very, very telling.

24:20

So this is when we get into the heart

24:22

of Washington schedule. They're in the

24:24

college football playoff run, they get to

24:26

the, you know, they play Oregon, the

24:28

end of the regular season, and they

24:30

play, there's the rematch in the Pac-Tol

24:33

title game, then they're in the college

24:35

football playoff, everything like that. The high

24:37

leverage games of Washington schedule against the

24:39

best competition, where McMillan had

24:41

come back for the end of

24:43

it. McMillan ends up

24:46

coming back on November 25th. Polk

24:49

disappeared at the end of last season.

24:52

I think he had, let's

24:54

see, I was looking

24:57

for the stats here. I think he had 23. Yeah.

25:00

So over the

25:02

last seven games of the season, Polk had

25:04

23 catches for 323 yards

25:06

and two touchdowns in two of those

25:08

games, even though Polk was healthy and

25:11

active on one of the best

25:13

passing offenses in all of America. He had

25:16

zero catches. And these, Jalen

25:18

Polk, that Peter Shrager says is

25:20

a first round pick. And a lot of

25:23

people say is a top 10 receiver. I

25:26

don't know about that. That guy is not going

25:28

to be able to play on the outside in

25:31

the NFL. So he's

25:33

this big slot guy who

25:35

whenever Washington had their two

25:37

preferred receivers, he faded

25:39

into the background over the last couple of

25:41

years. And one final stab for you on

25:44

this thing, just to encapsulate all this. Over

25:46

the last, there was 20 games,

25:49

the last two seasons where Jalen

25:51

McMillan and Jalen Polk were on

25:53

the field together healthy for the

25:55

entire game. In

25:57

those 20 games, Jalen McMillan stats. 124

26:00

catches, 1,657 yards, 14 touchdowns. Jalen

26:05

Polk stats, 68 catches, 1210 yards, nine touchdowns.

26:10

It was not a contest. Washington's number

26:12

two receiver easily was McMillan. That was

26:15

the guy that they preferred. Jalen McMillan

26:17

is a better player and a better

26:19

prospect than Jalen Polk. The

26:22

only reason people think different, it's contextual.

26:24

It should be because Jalen McMillan suffered

26:26

a knee injury in September. Right,

26:28

right. This is it. I mean, I love the

26:31

way for you when you're

26:33

talking about these prospects store, it's

26:35

like a movie is playing in your head and

26:37

you can go right back to all the pieces

26:39

you put together and it ends up in a

26:41

story. I think I'm very much

26:43

on the storytelling side, not the analytic

26:45

side of this football media do it

26:47

yourself thing that we're doing. But, and

26:49

like I said, check it out at

26:51

the fantasy press right now, your 10,000

26:53

word opus about

26:56

this amazing wide receiver class. And

26:59

like I said, you talked about Polk as a big slot.

27:01

I mean, this is the little slot class. This is the

27:04

tank, Dell, Wake, these

27:06

little guys. There's any number

27:08

of slot guys. There's a number of guys that you

27:10

may be drafting just to play in the slot. And

27:12

a lot of them have a lot more to offer

27:14

than Polk. We'll see what happens with that. And really

27:16

quickly on the- Like McMillan. I mean McMillan

27:19

is a lot too. He's just a better one than Polk

27:21

is gonna be. Right. In my opinion,

27:23

yeah. He's the crafty, he's again, him

27:25

replacing Tyler Boyd is just poetic. I mean,

27:27

it rhymes. It's big to see. When you

27:29

look at their games, it's that old man.

27:31

Tyler Boyd already had old man wide receiver

27:33

game at Pitt. And McMillan has that too,

27:35

just to cheer you up too. Not that you need cheering

27:37

up. Mike Gerifolo, he

27:42

was the first beat writer we had on our little fantasy

27:45

show back in 2007. He

27:47

said McMillan is visited the Chiefs, the

27:49

Cardinals, the Jags, the Panthers, the Dolphins,

27:51

and at private workouts with the Bills

27:53

and the Vikings. There's

27:56

your KJ Osborne. There's your KJ Osborne replacement.

27:58

I love it. So, so

28:00

this wide receiver group and I would

28:03

encourage everybody to go out and read it.

28:05

It's amazing for that. There's like seven

28:07

or 10 or 12 things now that if we're being

28:10

honest, you have to read this and you have to

28:12

read this and you get some RSP and you have

28:14

to do Dane Brewer's piece and you've got to read

28:16

what Thor is doing. It's, there's so many people, and

28:18

what Scott Baird's doing over at Fantasy Point. So

28:20

many people doing such incredible work. And one

28:22

of the things I really like, again, see

28:25

you, you, you do the same things that

28:27

I do where you put yourself in the

28:29

article. In some ways it's

28:31

about the wide receivers, but in some ways

28:33

it's about how the wide receivers made you

28:35

feel or what they made you think or

28:38

your emotional ride as you like learn more

28:40

about the prospect or you learn about off

28:43

field or medical and then you try to weigh

28:45

these things or am I worried? You'll say like

28:47

what worries me? So

28:49

it's personal. And then

28:52

the other thing that makes it real personal of course is

28:55

all of the references to things. I think that

28:57

matter to you, right? I have just on a

28:59

short list here, the Malik neighbors, the flying Ferrari,

29:01

and you invoke back to the future. So the

29:04

kids don't know about back to the future. I

29:06

hope so. You know, you, you

29:08

invoke Viking funerals with Lad McConkie. Just

29:11

the way that your idea of him

29:13

before you started watching him and your

29:15

idea after went up in a blaze.

29:17

You invoke Professor X with Ricky Pearsall

29:19

and then DuVon Baker. I love this.

29:21

You need boxing gloves and tap shoes.

29:24

So they want

29:26

a combination, right? I mean that's a picture,

29:28

right? Here's how you're going to thwart DuVon

29:30

Baker or UCF at the line. You got

29:32

to have the pugilistic mentality of a boxer,

29:34

but you also, but actually boxers have great

29:36

feet. I mean that's the funny thing is

29:39

you're kind of redundant in there because we

29:41

talk about boxers and I think

29:44

Matt Waldman was the first one that made

29:46

this comparison. This is the way the quarterback

29:48

negotiate the pocket is the way that boxers

29:50

and footwork negotiate the ring. It's a little

29:52

bit different, more like war and territorial, but

29:54

the thing I think that is I appreciate

29:56

the most about what you did from a

29:59

football chop standpoint. is that you're

30:01

really honest, Keon Coleman, A.D. Mitchell,

30:03

you're really honest and you say

30:05

like, hey, these things matter

30:08

in the NFL and they've got them, but

30:11

these things also matter in the NFL

30:13

and they're spotty or not there.

30:17

And you do take a stand, but

30:20

that is secondary to explaining, hey, if

30:22

this player ends up being a bust,

30:24

here's the story that foretold that. And

30:27

if this player ends up being a hit, here's the story that

30:30

foretells that. So it's

30:32

being really honest. That

30:34

being said, let's talk about the wide receiver class

30:36

in terms of like some superlatives, okay? Who

30:38

was the most frustrating wide receiver in this

30:41

class to watch? A.D.

30:45

Mitchell, I was Keon

30:48

Coleman in some ways, but that actually

30:50

was the previous thing within

30:52

November at the beginning of the

30:54

season, Keon Coleman was actually very

30:57

good when the situation was there.

30:59

Overall, it was easily A.D. Mitchell.

31:02

The flash plays are very fun.

31:05

I think of, I'm gonna do it,

31:08

we just get back to the future, I'm gonna do

31:10

all these references from the A.D.s or maybe this guy's

31:12

even from the 70s, but if

31:14

I did a real comp for A.D.

31:16

Mitchell, it would be Dave Kingman for

31:18

my baseball. Oh yeah. It's

31:20

you either get a dinger or you get

31:23

a strike up. That is what A.D. Mitchell

31:25

is. And my whole

31:27

argument about A.D. Mitchell is, I

31:30

see him in diametrically opposite way

31:32

to the conventional narrative about him

31:34

and the conventional narrative about A.D. Mitchell is

31:36

like, look at this freak athlete. He's six,

31:38

two and a half, 205, 998,

31:41

Raz, low four three speed and

31:43

then he has all these incredible plays and he just

31:45

needs a little bit of polish and he could be

31:48

the superstar wide receiver. But

31:51

you have to shoulder

31:53

some risk in taking him whatever.

31:56

I, again, I see that

31:58

inverted where... the, I

32:01

don't see the ceiling with AD Mitchell, but

32:03

I see a higher floor there. I

32:06

see him as just the pop the top

32:08

number two guy that the defense has to

32:10

keep the two high safeties. Cause you have

32:12

to respect his ability to get deep. The

32:15

only thing he reliably did in college was,

32:17

was hit those dingers. And

32:19

by the way, only every now and again,

32:21

he only did it in three games this

32:23

year. His entire statistical profile over 14 games

32:25

last season at Texas on a team that

32:28

was really, really good throwing the ball and

32:31

NFL quarterback prospects. One of the

32:33

sports premier offensive play callers in

32:36

Steve Sarkeesian. He was playing across

32:38

from Xavier worthy and you're taking

32:40

Sanders. So you couldn't double them

32:44

in seven of the 14 games. I think it

32:46

was 30 or less yards. And then the entire

32:48

statistical profile was off of three games. I think

32:50

it was two of them. It was either a

32:52

hundred or 30 yards or more, 140 yards or

32:55

more. And then

32:57

the third one he got over a

32:59

hundred, but those games, those three were,

33:01

he went off. It was just those

33:03

dingers. It's, it's the long ball. What

33:05

he struggles with. It's the, the nuance

33:07

of the routes where it's in the

33:09

intermediate range in part because he telegraphs

33:11

to change its direction. I think he's

33:13

a bit labored with changing direction as

33:15

well. Um, so, so that's

33:17

number one, number two, it's the, his

33:20

speed, well, it's awesome. Once he

33:22

gets going, it's buildup speed, right?

33:24

So like he needs that little

33:26

bit of runway. Again, you have

33:29

to respect it, which helps spacing

33:31

of the offense. I

33:33

think one manifestation of 80 Mitchell's value,

33:35

if, if I'm to give him a

33:37

credit for this, we've seen

33:39

in the amount of targets that Xavier worthy

33:41

and, and, and, uh, just have you and

33:43

Sanders got, and even Jordan Whittington, that

33:46

were advantageous last season because of the

33:48

extra spacing you get, cause it's a

33:50

math problem. You, you can't, you

33:53

can't do a single high safety with 80 Mitchell is

33:55

on the, you have to respect cause you

33:57

know that he can, he can take the top off, but.

34:00

You don't really see a bunch of others. I

34:02

saw people were putting out one random whip route.

34:04

He went on to try to be like, oh

34:06

no, he actually can change direction and run. So

34:09

like, stop it, stop it. No,

34:12

like the general utility with him, it's the

34:14

north-south thing and he needs to build up

34:16

to it. And yes, the threat of that

34:18

even has value. And of course you're gonna

34:21

hit some home runs with it when you

34:23

got the shot. But overall the consistency is

34:25

not there. I think hoping for more, it's

34:28

a bridge to nowhere as far as that goes. Yeah,

34:30

you described that well. And I

34:33

love mixed sports metaphors, the three true

34:35

outcomes. Three true outcomes for a baseball,

34:37

a strikeout, a walk or a home

34:39

run. That doesn't work if you're a

34:41

wide receiver or a cornerback. You

34:44

don't want the three true outcomes. That's

34:46

not a good approach. And

34:49

as you mentioned, I

34:53

like the way that you draw a picture of,

34:55

hey, let's start. And sometimes we have to revise

34:57

this or sometimes we assume

34:59

the opposite. I think when we watch college

35:01

tape and because you're watching it from,

35:04

you're watching all these games in a different

35:06

context already anyway, we're

35:09

assuming rational coaching, rational game management, the quarterback,

35:11

the quarterback wants to win, the quarterback wants

35:13

his job to be as easy as possible.

35:15

And you've already twice in the show talked

35:17

about the idea of a quarterback and a

35:19

coach and game planner choosing to rely on

35:21

players that they feel are more likely to

35:23

help them win. And Mitchell,

35:25

like you said, was more of a tactical piece.

35:28

And that might be why he's still going to

35:30

likely get first round draft capital, at least like

35:32

top 40 draft capital in a

35:35

production profile that almost never gets drafted at high

35:37

or at the very least when people compare, they're

35:39

like, these are busts because

35:42

they're players, as you said, a road to

35:44

nowhere. Now, one real interesting thing I want

35:46

to bring up, and I know it's anonymous

35:48

scout, but it's Bob McGinn. Bob

35:50

McGinn's been doing this forever. And

35:53

yeah. It's from

35:55

Go Long, Tyler Dunsite. Tyler

35:57

Dunsite's fantastic, you know, just doing vital

35:59

work. Terms of covering football in a

36:01

way that just isn't covered that way. Well

36:03

in a if you seen a story be

36:06

seen both in public and stuff about Mitchell.

36:09

On. I live eels it but

36:11

I'm Bob Stuff is also my I look

36:13

at series of what what what would you

36:15

say diabetes diabetes right? He said i'm a

36:18

third south said diabetes is a major concern.

36:20

He you've gotta look out for got take

36:22

care of himself every diabetic. Those are some

36:24

questions at the end of these. A good

36:26

player but hasn't done anything overly malicious. He's

36:28

probably just a mature. He's got gear Wilson

36:30

as catch, radius, athletic ability, body control these

36:32

almost on coachable. Before. You even

36:35

get a that I bet part is going to

36:37

do it his way. He's loaded warhorse. gotta see

36:39

if you can harness him and then if you

36:41

do that, Doesn't. Address diabetic stuff in

36:43

a more to our way. He's a boom

36:45

or bust guy. You'd have to sign someone

36:47

to him because issues are all that diabetes

36:49

of blood sugar. Another scouts said when his

36:51

blood sugars off his rudy's abrasive. He doesn't

36:53

pay attention is why you get really really

36:55

bad character reports coming out of Georgia Texas.

36:58

But when is normal. And. They

37:00

get him normal by lunchtime. he's

37:02

out of practice. high energy, best

37:04

taxpayer both a football com. Boom!

37:08

Now again I don't like to put

37:10

a lot in anonymous scalp stuff, but

37:12

I know with Bob Huggins aka put

37:14

something out there to sneer a kid

37:16

friendly like that and it kind of

37:18

matches the nature of the A D

37:20

Middle scouting reports right like that picture

37:23

is a in you it well and

37:25

scribe well with garlic. He on Coleman

37:27

who again it's a made another organization

37:29

lands in and how he used and

37:31

then their confidence feedback loop either positive

37:33

or negative. I'm. Sticking

37:35

with wide receivers but I'm in a

37:37

reference something that you said last year

37:40

hum. Because. Because of you. Door.

37:43

Nystrom because of you. Thank you! I'm in a

37:45

lot tight and premium. Dynasty Leagues. And

37:47

because of you I have Sam Laporte on a

37:49

lot of the As like that I feel like

37:51

a when we taught last year I probably quoted

37:53

you. I'm not kidding. Thor, I probably drop your

37:56

name like at least seven to ten times over

37:58

the course of twenty twenty Three. Specifically referencing

38:00

you the you said without same Laporta I

38:02

will would have been one of the worst.

38:05

Power. Five offices and twenty five year.

38:08

And I thought wow, what a great way!

38:11

What a great way to say this guy's

38:13

impactful. Okay, don't look at the stats,

38:15

don't look at the measurable. Just know I

38:17

watch a lot of college football And this

38:19

one guy. a tight and not a quarterback,

38:21

not a running back. a tight end. Salvage.

38:24

This team out of the gutter. That's

38:26

how impactful he is. So out give

38:28

us the sample porter if you will

38:31

from this year's wide receiver corps. Arthur.

38:34

You really go tight an arm or you go to

38:37

tie your first that have you had the titans you

38:39

have come as a tight until we decided so did

38:41

that. I would say that tight and would be. Friends.

38:43

And not. I. N

38:46

in actually I ended up in. This

38:48

actually made me and. I

38:50

are. I'm actually appreciative of the jade

38:52

said about this cause I am turning

38:54

in my tight ends in my last

38:56

position are com and I'm turning it

38:59

today for fantasy browse and I had

39:01

a really hard to. I grapple with

39:03

this for a long time. I'd you

39:05

know how obsessive I am with the

39:07

com said do the job hundred on

39:09

on the thing polite. I'm.

39:11

Super. Obsessive, were dumb and like until

39:14

i feel like i have the right wine

39:16

or just of sorts of our of

39:18

says about and with said not damn my

39:20

com for him is Ben Sam Laporta and

39:23

it makes me a little bit uncomfortable

39:25

cause i lights Laporta a little bit more

39:27

but i hate doing com sore at sides.

39:30

You. Know Ninety percent Ninety five percent Laporta.

39:32

Ah my like I don't do that

39:34

because it looked stupid in that little

39:36

box. You know when you you'll a

39:38

that day hour or whatever. But I

39:40

could not. I. i

39:43

could not find a better dude

39:45

i couldn't find a ninety five

39:47

ninety two percent same laporta guy

39:49

so the the most accurate one

39:51

that i kick invade said the

39:53

audience for bench denied him it

39:55

became love the florida but i

39:57

your ah tell your audience i'm

39:59

not exist or not saying exactly

40:01

that it's apples to apples, but

40:03

it's pretty close that the frame,

40:05

the athleticism are

40:07

very close. The collegiate

40:09

profile, it's not

40:11

too dissimilar. And Ben

40:14

Sinat, interestingly enough, grew

40:16

up as a childhood multi

40:18

sports star in Iowa. He

40:21

was only overlooked by

40:23

the Iowa coaching staff, along with every

40:25

other coaching staff in America. Because

40:27

when he came out of high school, he

40:30

was 200 pounds. He only got on to

40:32

Kansas State because he had one of his

40:34

it was either a dad or his dad's

40:36

buddy was friends with Chris Kleiman. And

40:39

they talked to him. And then that's

40:41

how Sinat was able to walk on

40:43

there. And then Kleiman came from NDSU,

40:46

who has this vaunted what you know,

40:48

under that's where Kleiman came from before.

40:51

And Kleiman had built up and Craig

40:53

bull before him, this vaunted strength and

40:55

conditioning program. That's why NDSU just wrecks

40:57

the FCS every single year. Ben Sinat

40:59

got into that thing and built himself

41:02

up into what he is now and

41:04

his frame, you know, kept getting bigger.

41:06

And he put the muscle on now

41:08

he's 642 50. He

41:11

went from that, you know, zero star,

41:13

you know, walk on kid full, quote

41:16

unquote, fall back 200 pounds

41:19

to 642 5097

41:21

percentile tight end, he blocks plays

41:23

in line, he can shift them around, he can

41:25

play them in the slot, he put them out

41:27

wide, he can be the lead blocker in

41:30

the backfield, very good blocker.

41:32

And he's a very good receiver as

41:34

well. I really like his body control.

41:37

It's it's sort of a folks

41:39

like, like you sort of see

41:41

in his tape, like the young or the

41:43

how to get the smaller person that he

41:45

used to be, he used to play hockey

41:49

when he was like 150 pounds of

41:51

basketball. You see some of that in

41:53

his body control, he just sort of

41:55

moves like like this. He's only been

41:58

this size for like the last three

42:00

years and maybe that's why some people

42:02

are lower on him. I

42:04

don't know, maybe the NFL, and we'll end

42:06

up seeing on draft weekend, as you know,

42:09

a year ago at this time when I

42:11

was banging the drum that Sam LaPorta should

42:13

be an early second rounder late first round

42:15

pick and everyone, the world thought he was

42:17

a third rounder one year ago at this

42:19

time. So we'll see with Sanat, I believe

42:21

that he is a top

42:23

half of the second round type prospect

42:25

based on the profile, based on the

42:27

film, everything like that. But

42:29

he's also, and this is another

42:32

thing that is very similar to Sam LaPorta,

42:34

big time tackle breaker after he catches the

42:36

ball. He's got good hands and

42:38

then when he turns around with that ball, the

42:41

defense has got a handful on their hands. Yeah,

42:43

I like that. Again, the story is

42:45

important and real quick from Dane Bruegler's

42:47

beast on on

42:50

Senate. He,

42:52

first of all, he plays, I love

42:55

the guys, the tight ends that play with

42:57

this joy, right, in their game. George

42:59

Kittle, Travis Kelsey, Rob Gronkowski, I think LaPorta does

43:01

too. They love it. They love that it's the

43:04

most, I mean Gronkowski was telling a story about

43:06

like only when he got hit in a game

43:08

and it like kind of got his body activated.

43:10

That's when he was ready to play. And

43:13

what's in it, in Dane Bruegler's beast, he says

43:15

he didn't play tackle football

43:17

until fourth grade. He didn't play

43:19

football. He didn't play flag

43:21

football because he couldn't hit anybody in flag football.

43:24

So little kid fencing it is like, you

43:26

don't get to tackle? I'll

43:29

find other things to do. Let me know when I'm

43:31

allowed to tackle. And then he bet on himself as

43:33

a walk on at Kansas State. So

43:36

he's had a zero star recruit. He has

43:38

had to build himself up and you tell

43:41

that story about his body changing. And I'm

43:43

reminded of Jacoby Jones from Lane. We

43:46

saw him at the Shrine game in 2007. And

43:48

he's a long limb guy,

43:51

you know, real high

43:53

cut, like a great wide receiver, outside wide

43:55

receiver body. But he could return. We're watching

43:57

him return. Punts. And

44:00

he moves like a small player. He

44:02

moves like Darren Sproles. I mean in terms

44:04

of his plan of attack. And

44:07

he still has that suddenness even though he's a long-limbed

44:09

receiver. And we asked him about it. And he said

44:11

it's because when he got to – he was not

44:13

recruited really. He was little. He was

44:15

shorter. I think he was like 5' 9

44:18

or 5' 10 and lighter. And that was

44:20

– that's the football player inside of him. And

44:22

he blossomed. His body changed. So the NFL now

44:24

is taking note. But as you said, the movement

44:27

skills are changed. So let me quickly – I'm

44:29

going to at least have a few minutes off

44:31

the rails. Really quick. Give me

44:33

your number one sleeper. Sleeper. So like outside

44:35

of the consensus top 5 or 7. It's

44:38

not that good of a class. But your consensus

44:40

sleeper – I'm sorry, your top

44:42

sleeper running back. Running

44:44

back, I'll give you two. I would say

44:46

– I don't want to

44:49

keep evoking Iowa. But former Iowa receiver Tyrone

44:51

Tracy Jr. was a Purdue running back the

44:53

last couple of years. And so his coaching

44:55

staff tried to convince him to be running

44:57

back before he ended up going to Purdue.

44:59

Purdue succeeded in that. He blew up last

45:01

year a little bit of an elevated age

45:03

but did not touch the ball. He

45:06

has a bunch of tread on the tires in

45:08

terms of that. Didn't have a ton of usage

45:10

in college. But last year was fabulous on this

45:12

dead-end Purdue team. The instincts as

45:15

a runner certainly play. And the athletic

45:17

profile is really, really good for

45:19

him. He's like this juiced up slasher guy. And

45:21

he just had – and I saw this when

45:24

he was at Iowa. He

45:26

just has a sense about him for

45:28

how to get himself into space. I

45:31

saw numerous times when he was at Iowa, he'd

45:33

be surrounded by – I remember this game against

45:36

Northwestern. There's like four defenders around him. He somehow

45:38

got out of it and then he's in the

45:40

open field. And then he can hit the

45:42

Jets. And you saw that at Purdue. He's

45:44

like this slalom-y type back. And

45:47

then when he's got the – now

45:49

he's hitting the Jets downfield. He can also

45:51

break the arm tackles. I think there's a

45:53

lot of potential there. I think he's a

45:55

sleeper. The other one that I think everybody

45:58

sleeps on is Kamani Vidal of Purdue. because

46:01

he's unconventional. I

46:03

just, I love watching that kid. He's the,

46:06

because I like the bowling ball kind of

46:08

guys, but he sort of puts

46:10

a, I'm sorry, for

46:12

the spin on the bowling ball thing.

46:14

Yeah. Where a lot of

46:16

times, I would say Blake Quorum is

46:18

a more conventional bowling ball kind of

46:20

a fellow where it's like, it's the

46:23

agility thing and, you know, behind the

46:25

line and then running through the arm

46:27

tackle with the dog, he's

46:29

straight ahead. It's like throwing the bowling

46:32

ball at the, at the pin. And

46:36

it's sort of like disconcerting

46:38

and discombobulating to the defenses

46:40

because he's so short, but

46:43

he's also like jacked for that

46:45

size at five, seven

46:48

and a half, he's 213 pounds of just muscle is

46:53

what it is. And so he's

46:55

hiding behind the offensive. Only for

46:57

a second though, accelerate super quick.

46:59

And it's all north south. He

47:02

breaks a metric ton of tackles because of

47:04

this style. He gets on top of

47:06

you so fast, gets through the hole so

47:08

fast. He's not the joystick

47:10

agility guy. It's not his game and

47:12

it's not his prerogative, but he

47:14

has the subtle movements right before the

47:17

contact point that turn the direct shot

47:19

into the off angle shot that he

47:21

is so skilled running through. Last year

47:23

he finished number two in the FPS

47:25

in force miss tackles, which is the

47:27

same thing that was the case for

47:30

the guy comp him to his last

47:32

year in college, Jalen Warren coming out

47:34

of Oklahoma State was also number two

47:36

in the FPS in force miss tackle.

47:38

I think that Kamani Vidal translates as

47:41

a very similar type guy in the

47:43

NFL. Last thing I'll say Kamani Vidal,

47:45

both at the senior ball against better

47:47

competition acquitted himself very well. The

47:50

other thing against Kansas State and some of

47:52

the times when Trey stepped up in competition,

47:54

he acquitted himself very well. Kansas State and

47:56

Chris Kliman tried to throw eight man boxes

47:58

against him. Kamani Vidal. Vidal was blowing through

48:01

eight man boxes very last thing something that keep

48:03

you on the field in the NFL Pass blocking

48:05

Kamani Vidal might be the best running back in

48:07

this class at it. Yeah.

48:09

Yes and they those

48:11

two guys of those are the two top answers

48:13

to There's a reason that

48:16

smart football people are zeroing and Lance the yearline

48:18

was something for Tyrone Tracy and a lot of

48:20

people Like come on Eve at all. I know

48:22

it Matt Wahlman among others Okay,

48:24

just a couple minutes cuz I you got to run your man in

48:27

demand at this time of year as you should be author

48:30

else real quick again Your

48:33

work just radiates with the joy

48:35

that it gives you to do the work

48:39

What's something else in your life that gives you joy? It's

48:45

sort of disgusting because this this is right

48:47

ding near up the top It actually it

48:49

actually is that and and you know the

48:51

thing that I tell like younger people when

48:53

I talk to him is like You

48:55

got to find the thing where it don't

48:57

feel like work Cuz yeah, you'll just that's

49:00

the only path to outworking other people is

49:02

when it never feels like work This is

49:04

the thing This is the subject I was

49:06

obsessed with when I was a kid my

49:08

mom still jokes around about how Around

49:11

this month when I was going

49:13

back to when I was like eight nine years

49:15

old I would always have these scraps of paper

49:17

downstairs writing my mock dress and I would have

49:19

a practice It's

49:22

all enough already you pay attention, you know and

49:24

around spring break I would buy the magazines at

49:26

the airport and and this is the reason why

49:28

I do the work in the way that I

49:30

Why do I do a 500 player

49:33

big board with 500 comps seems obnoxious,

49:35

right? Like what why would someone do

49:37

that? I'll tell you why it was

49:39

because when I was a kid when

49:41

I went to Like I

49:43

said spring break is when I always because I'm from greater,

49:45

Minnesota It's way up north like what the only time I

49:47

could get these makes it would be at the What

49:50

if Hudson or whatever? What are the things

49:52

that are only in airports? Yeah,

49:55

that's when I could get that the pre-draft magazine.

49:58

Well when you get on the thing I was

50:00

most interested in was how big is the big

50:02

board on the back because this is

50:04

I'm old enough where it was like Early internet

50:06

days. I think the internet came out when I

50:08

was like in fifth grade or something like that

50:10

But it was like dial tone it and sometimes

50:12

he didn't have a printer and everything like that

50:14

So I needed a and big boards early on

50:16

it wasn't until later when Maybe

50:19

it was four or five years later when Melkite

50:21

the ESPN started putting Melkite Bazaar So I needed

50:23

a big board where I could follow along ESPN's

50:26

ticker did not go fast enough

50:28

for me as a kid where

50:30

I had the best available at all times So

50:32

I wanted a big board where you know every year

50:34

at cross off so I could track it That's

50:36

why I do it I want I

50:38

wanted a bigger big board and I also wanted

50:41

a big board that would you know

50:43

when when the draft was done? And then all of

50:45

a sudden one of my favorites

50:47

I call it the dessert draft or the

50:49

second draft Which is the UDFA

50:51

free-for-all that happens immediately after the conclusion of

50:53

the draft because some of the signings have

50:56

sort of been Nudge nudge

50:58

wink wink agreed upon in principle

51:00

in advance They start

51:02

the news of those starts flying in right

51:04

when you know after the mister irrelevant pick

51:07

I also wanted to have a sense of

51:09

like where are those guys ranked and

51:12

and you know, that's why I go 500 players deep

51:14

It's essentially two drafts. So you also have

51:17

a sense of that But um,

51:19

you know, I I guess that my other

51:21

answers that question it would just be cliches

51:23

I love hanging out with my friends, you

51:25

know, like on off times like

51:27

that's that's one way that I sort of unwind

51:30

another one a random one is If

51:32

I don't want to be around football or

51:34

my friends I will go to a movie

51:36

by myself is like one way that I

51:39

sort of get away. Yeah. Yeah,

51:41

no definitely could

51:43

change your focus but Right

51:46

now we're focused on the draft and

51:48

mr. Very relevant Thor nice room

51:50

over at fantasy pros Check

51:52

out everything going on there and I can't wait

51:54

to see your undrafted free agent class takes and

51:56

everything else We do it all for you folks.

51:58

We love you all because you're

52:00

so classy. You

52:03

made a record player, start a record player. Because

52:05

this is the ritual. It's

52:08

remarrying music back to ritual. And

52:11

whenever you take your record out and

52:13

handle it very gently, because it's a precious thing, and

52:16

you put it on the record and the sound and

52:18

the needle going on the record, we all know what

52:20

that means, how that prompts you, how much you'll remember

52:22

it. It's a moment in

52:24

your life when you slow down and

52:26

you make yourself ready to receive something and

52:29

you receive something. We're going to,

52:31

yeah, the time machine is working out really well for

52:33

us. I don't know why my fantasy teams are all

52:35

like two and three and one and four, though.